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=== nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari
nuvolari:D06:27
nuvolariHappy happy everything06:27
Kilosafternoon everyone06:40
nuvolarioh hi oom Kilos!06:43
Kiloslo nuvolari hoe gaan dit seun06:44
nuvolari'n laat Geseënde Kersfees oom Kilos :)06:44
nuvolaridit gaan goed dankie en met oom?06:44
Kilosselle daar dankie seun06:44
Kilosek gaan aan soos gewoonlik06:45
nuvolariek was stupid07:11
nuvolarihet verlof gevat tot net voor die nuwe jaar07:11
nuvolarinou werk ek die week 3 dae :-/07:11
Kilosai!07:22
inetprogood evening everyone 08:48
* nuvolari mumbles something about people breaking things and going on leave when stuff is still in a broken state09:21
nuvolarioh hi inetpro!09:21
nuvolari:'( everything was fine when I left09:21
Kilosevening inetpro 09:57
Kilosthats the way things work nuvolari 09:58
inetproKilos: eh!09:58
inetprostill morning for you sir09:58
Kilosdont do anything you can leave for someone else to fix09:58
Kilosoh ya  you right, sorry inetpro 09:58
inetproas usual10:21
Kiloshaha and so cheeky at it too10:51
inetproalways11:18
Kilosinetpro do you know what a VLN number is on a visa application please12:24
Kilosor superfly or anyone else12:24
inetprois that not like the qunique application number?12:28
inetprounique*12:28
inetproas in when u apply you get a VLN number with the application12:29
inetproKilos: ^^12:30
Kilosi have no idea inetpro 12:30
Kilosthats why im asking12:31
inetprolook at your application12:31
Kilosive googled and other peeps have the same problem12:31
Kilosnowhere says anything about a VLN number only a reference number12:34
inetprosounds like something you really need to track down asap12:34
Kilosone cant even mail them directly, even that is an online function12:34
Kilosim gonna try put the ref number in the vln number block12:36
Kilosstupid site, you ask for password reset and it doesnt even give that option in the reply mail. just logs you in with email on 2 lines12:37
superflyI hear my name? 12:55
Kilossuperfly do you know what a VLN number is in a visa application please12:56
Kilosand where you get it12:56
Kilosmaybe its not given when you do an online application13:01
Kilossigh13:01
superflyNo. 13:10
superflyThat's what they call it. That's their name. It's not a standard abbreviation. 13:10
superflyKilos: if you want to know what a vln is, you're going to have to ask them 13:11
Kilosim trying ty superfly 13:11
MaNIwhatever it is it should be on your receipt apparently13:12
MaNI"Visa Lodgement Number"13:15
Kiloswe paid online as well MaNI 13:23
Kilosill ask tara 13:23
Kilosty for that13:23
Kiloshi Langjan 13:37
LangjanHi Kilos  did you find those numbers?13:37
Kilosnope tara looking now if she can find the vln on the online receipt13:38
Kilosthe payment receipt13:38
LangjanOh did they apply from that side?13:38
Kilosshe paid the cost from her account13:39
Langjanok but did you lodge the application? 13:39
Kilosshe did most of the typing and stuff for me on the same account13:39
Kilosi gave her my particulars and she logged in as me13:39
Langjanand you or she must have received confirmation of lodgement - no wonder you hear nothing if you have not been quoting those details.  13:41
inetproexactly my point13:41
inetprohi oom Langjan13:42
Langjanhi inetpro 13:42
Langjanhow are you keeping?13:42
inetprowarm!13:42
inetproons kook hier in Gautengeleng13:42
LangjanJa here at Warmbaths also13:42
Langjanbut not like before Xmas13:43
inetproou bome begin al vrek van die hitte13:43
LangjanJa dis die hitte en droogte, daars nie meer water in die grond nie...13:44
inetprohave a Baldcypress that is like 50 years old turned brown like in Winter13:44
inetprohttp://www.arborday.org/trees/treeguide/TreeDetail.cfm?ItemID=78713:45
LangjanSjoe! Ek het twee avocado boompies gepanlt. albei dood13:45
inetproand a yellowwood of almost 20 years13:45
LangjanThe cypress is an exotic swamp dweller, will soon die of no water but the yellowwood, eish! Skade!13:47
inetproMaaz: coffee on13:47
* Maaz flips the salt-timer13:47
LangjanAmla is also wilting!13:48
inetprolol13:48
LangjanHe started wilting in India, should not have played to my mind13:48
inetpro eish! 89/3 ?13:49
LangjanPlayers must be picked on form, not history13:49
inetproyep13:50
LangjanYes he started the collapse, lost his wicket and upset Elgar's concentration13:50
inetprolet's hope AB can wake up from his sleep13:50
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro!13:51
LangjanAB is wide awake but cannot win matches on his own13:51
inetproMaaz: dankie13:51
MaazGroot plesier inetpro my vriend13:51
LangjanKilos,  did you get those numbers?13:52
Kilosnope still looking13:52
Kilosi dont member ever seeing the first mail with that info in13:53
LangjanI would think it should have been an automatically-generated process via the website when the application was lodged. 13:59
Langjaninetpro, while you're here, I have had a prob with my folders. When I try to save a new14:02
Langjaninetpro, any suggestions? when I use the "select" and "move to" options to save a document among my existing document folders, the folder list that comes up is shown in what appears to be a random order instead of alphabetical.14:04
inetproLangjan: what application or file manager?14:06
LangjanSaving a new doc from Libre Office Writer into "My Documents"14:08
Langjaninetpro, saving a Libre Office Writer doc to "My Documents"14:12
inetprosounds like you need to google the libreOffice forums for an answer on that14:15
LangjanI have, no joy but will try again. Am trying to emulate the prob, unsuccessful - will have to go when it happens again. Thanks14:17
inetproI would rather use a file manager for managing files though14:17
inetprodefault file manager in Ubuntu is Nautilus14:18
inetproon KDE that would be Dolphin14:19
inetprobut there's many others14:19
LangjanYouve lost me now, but I have never been aware of how the docs are managed14:19
LangjanWill Nautilus not be automatic for docs in my home folder?14:22
inetproa file is a file is a file14:25
LangjanYou've lost the old man inetpro 14:26
inetproNautilus gives you a graphical display of all your system and personal files14:27
LangjanNautilus shows installed and when I click open it shows my docs in home folder, also all the other files14:29
inetproallowing you to move and organise files and folders much more effectively than LibreOffice's file dialog 14:29
LangjanI don't know about Libre Office file dialog, only use Libre Office to generate new files14:30
inetprosorting and finding files is much easier in a proper file manager14:31
Langjaninetpro, seems to me like file manager is default in Ubuntu 14.04?14:32
inetpro12/29 16:18:43 <inetpro> default file manager in Ubuntu is Nautilus14:32
LangjanThats what I thought14:33
inetprothey just call it "file manager" these days14:33
inetproI think14:33
LangjanWell I never have a prob managing my files except for this niggle which I am not even sure when it happens, will be on the lookout for it14:35
inetproit's one of those applications that everyone is just expected to magically know how it works these days14:35
inetproin the old days you would find a complete guide for it14:36
inetprosome people still prefer something like GNU Midnight Commander (also known as mc, the command used to start it)14:37
LangjanI remember peeps referring to nautilus, never knew what it was14:38
inetprohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander14:38
inetproalso worth reading is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_manager14:40
LangjanWell I'm confident thats what my system is using - Nautilus. Thanks14:44
inetproon windows you would be using something called the windows explorer, not to be confused with internet explorer14:44
inetproeven if those two are very closely linked to each other these days14:44
inetpromake that "inseparably linked" to each other14:46
inetprofortunately, generally accepted throughout the Unix community, Unix programs have always been expected to follow the concept of DOTADIW14:50
inetproDo One Thing and Do It Well14:50
Kiloslol14:53
Kilosi sent the mail to them with the visa ref number in the vln place now to wait up to 3 working days for a reply14:54
inetprowhy only today oom Kilos?14:55
inetproshould have done it at least yesterday14:55
Kilosthis is the third one14:55
inetpronow you'll have to wait until next year14:55
Kilosya should have done it yesterday but one should expect at least some proficiency with visa peeps14:56
Kilosthey do it all day everyday14:56
Kilosi even asked them to check if it hasnt been misplaced or lost14:56
inetprohope they don't get "gatvol" and forget about your application altogether14:57
Kilosand to get me the vln number because i hunted all the old mails from them and no vln number anywhere14:57
Kilosim the one that should be gatvol14:58
Kiloswanted to spend Christmas with my girls14:58
Kilosi also reminded them that my last application took 2 years14:58
inetproKilos: it's called bureaucracy14:59
Kilosidiocracy15:00
inetproa form of government, the authority of which is not so much to accomplish anything, but to obstruct accomplishment by anyone else15:00
Kilosno wonder the world is in such a state15:00
Kiloshahahaha so true that15:00
inetproor administration characterized by excessive red tape and routine15:01
Kilosnope15:03
Kilosits all about money15:03
LangjanShould have been done 17 December...15:03
Kilosif you have a few mill and want a tourist visa theyll offer an immigration visa15:03
Kilosso they have time to work out how to get it out of you15:04
inetproyou should have married a rich girl oom Kilos15:04
Kilosja15:05
LangjanJa jy kan nie jou familie kies nie maar jy kan jou vrou kies...15:05
Kilosbut they nag too much because they hold the purse strings15:05
Kiloswe didnt have a choice even sigh15:06
Langjanno you do the nagging, they must just pay15:06
Kilosfirst sight and all was lost15:06
Kiloslol15:06
LangjanWell I'm sure it will all be worth the wait Kilos 15:07
Kilosif i can get there definitely15:07
LangjanTake heart - every day is one day closer15:07
Kiloshahahaha15:07
Langjanserious!15:08
Kilosja man but so is death15:08
Kilosill be a crock in a few years time15:08
LangjanDeath is an open door to eternity, life eternal given by grace to all who accept it 15:09
LangjanGota go Kilos , will check on you again soon15:10
Kilosgo well my friend15:10
Kiloslook after yourself15:11
Kilosty for the help15:11
LangjanThanks you also, wish I could help more, only a pleasure 15:11
=== Kilos- is now known as Kilos
inetprowb oom Kilos18:14
Kilosty inetpro 18:14
Kilosdunno why i dropped out18:14
Kiloshi nasanzero 18:39
nasanzerohey Kilos18:40
nasanzerohow you doing ?18:40
inetprocome now oom Kilos, how about doing the raindance?18:41
inetprohi nasanzero18:41
Kiloshahaha18:41
Kiloswe need more than that18:41
Kilosim good ty nasanzero and you?18:41
nasanzerohi there inetpro18:41
nasanzeroi doing fine thanks18:42
Kilosinetpro whats with the oom all the time lately18:42
Kilosyou making me feel old18:43
inetproyou are the old oom, not?18:43
Kiloswell18:43
Kilosum18:43
Kiloser18:43
inetprohmm...18:43
Kilosdepends on who is asking i suppose18:43
Kiloslangjan calls me laatie18:44
Kiloslaaitie18:44
inetprohaha18:44
Kilosrather hot tonight and 36°c again tomorrow18:45
KilosMaaz forecast pretoria18:45
MaazKilos: Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 34° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Wednesday: Clear. High: 33° C., Wednesday Night: Clear. Low: 18° C., Thursday: Partly Cloudy. High: 33° C., Thursday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 20° C., Friday: Clear. High: 33° C., Friday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 19° C., Saturday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 32°18:45
MaazC., Saturday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 33° C.,…18:45
Kilosweather liars give different temps18:46
nasanzeroi have a question - has anyone tired to run vnc from an android phone to their linux box ?18:53
Kilosnuvolari you still here??18:54
nasanzerook i will attempt it and let you how it goes19:12
Kilosgood luck19:12
Kilosthe fly might have but he seems to be busy as usual19:13
Kiloshe fiddles with everything19:13
nasanzerojust like me , cant have something and not tinker with it 19:15
Kiloshaha19:17
Kilosinetpro you got some time?19:17
Kilosi need someone to report this to youtube-dl19:17
Kiloshead too sore to work out what they want19:18
Kilosthey give info19:18
Kiloshere the command19:18
Kilosyoutube-dl -f 140 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpkewaEgtVk19:18
Kilosi think peeps report error downloads and they fix it19:19
Kiloswithout the switch things i get same error so maybe its the tube blocking something19:22
Kilosmaybe its just the https sites19:36
nasanzeroi got it working really simple too19:37
Kiloswell done19:37
Kilosyou talking about vnc hey?19:38
nasanzeroi am tying this from my phone19:38
inetproKilos: what is wrong with that?19:39
Kilosi get error report inetpro 19:39
nasanzeroyes the vnc 19:39
Kilosspam19:39
KilosExtractorError: Could not find JS function u'gr'; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; see  https://yt-dl.org/update  on how to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.19:39
Kilos (caused by ExtractorError(u"Could not find JS function u'gr'; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; see  https://yt-dl.org/update  on how to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.",)); please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; see  https://yt-dl.org/update  on how to update. Be sure to 19:39
Kiloscall youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.19:39
Kilossorry i forgot the pastebin19:40
Kilosinetpro  http://bin.snyman.info/zpyyu19:41
Kilosi need to crash will try again tomorrow19:42
Kilosnight all . sleep tight19:42
nasanzeronight Kilos19:43
Kilosinetpro leave a message with maaz if you get there ty19:43
inetproai!19:43
* inetpro has no data to waste on youtube stuffs19:44
inetpronasanzero: why vnc from Android?19:45
inetproif you can just ssh19:45
nasanzeroinetpro: just to show off to my friends , its your desktop on your phone , dont see that everyday19:46
inetpronot very practical19:46
nasanzeroits not that bad , i am posting  from the phone 19:48
inetproand?19:48
nasanzeroits something i wanted to try out 19:49
inetprowait until you see real convergence19:51
inetprohttp://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-is-teasing-convergence-coming-soon-497990.shtml19:51
nasanzeroi am waiting for the ubuntu tablet to get here 19:52
nasanzerogood night all 20:02

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