=== nuvolari_ is now known as nuvolari [06:27] :D [06:27] Happy happy everything [06:40] afternoon everyone [06:43] oh hi oom Kilos! [06:44] lo nuvolari hoe gaan dit seun [06:44] 'n laat Geseënde Kersfees oom Kilos :) [06:44] dit gaan goed dankie en met oom? [06:44] selle daar dankie seun [06:45] ek gaan aan soos gewoonlik [07:11] ek was stupid [07:11] het verlof gevat tot net voor die nuwe jaar [07:11] nou werk ek die week 3 dae :-/ [07:22] ai! [08:48] good evening everyone [09:21] * nuvolari mumbles something about people breaking things and going on leave when stuff is still in a broken state [09:21] oh hi inetpro! [09:21] :'( everything was fine when I left [09:57] evening inetpro [09:58] thats the way things work nuvolari [09:58] Kilos: eh! [09:58] still morning for you sir [09:58] dont do anything you can leave for someone else to fix [09:58] oh ya you right, sorry inetpro [10:21] as usual [10:51] haha and so cheeky at it too [11:18] always [12:24] inetpro do you know what a VLN number is on a visa application please [12:24] or superfly or anyone else [12:28] is that not like the qunique application number? [12:28] unique* [12:29] as in when u apply you get a VLN number with the application [12:30] Kilos: ^^ [12:30] i have no idea inetpro [12:31] thats why im asking [12:31] look at your application [12:31] ive googled and other peeps have the same problem [12:34] nowhere says anything about a VLN number only a reference number [12:34] sounds like something you really need to track down asap [12:34] one cant even mail them directly, even that is an online function [12:36] im gonna try put the ref number in the vln number block [12:37] stupid site, you ask for password reset and it doesnt even give that option in the reply mail. just logs you in with email on 2 lines [12:55] I hear my name? [12:56] superfly do you know what a VLN number is in a visa application please [12:56] and where you get it [13:01] maybe its not given when you do an online application [13:01] sigh [13:10] No. [13:10] That's what they call it. That's their name. It's not a standard abbreviation. [13:11] Kilos: if you want to know what a vln is, you're going to have to ask them [13:11] im trying ty superfly [13:12] whatever it is it should be on your receipt apparently [13:15] "Visa Lodgement Number" [13:23] we paid online as well MaNI [13:23] ill ask tara [13:23] ty for that [13:37] hi Langjan [13:37] Hi Kilos did you find those numbers? [13:38] nope tara looking now if she can find the vln on the online receipt [13:38] the payment receipt [13:38] Oh did they apply from that side? [13:39] she paid the cost from her account [13:39] ok but did you lodge the application? [13:39] she did most of the typing and stuff for me on the same account [13:39] i gave her my particulars and she logged in as me [13:41] and you or she must have received confirmation of lodgement - no wonder you hear nothing if you have not been quoting those details. [13:41] exactly my point [13:42] hi oom Langjan [13:42] hi inetpro [13:42] how are you keeping? [13:42] warm! [13:42] ons kook hier in Gautengeleng [13:42] Ja here at Warmbaths also [13:43] but not like before Xmas [13:43] ou bome begin al vrek van die hitte [13:44] Ja dis die hitte en droogte, daars nie meer water in die grond nie... [13:44] have a Baldcypress that is like 50 years old turned brown like in Winter [13:45] http://www.arborday.org/trees/treeguide/TreeDetail.cfm?ItemID=787 [13:45] Sjoe! Ek het twee avocado boompies gepanlt. albei dood [13:45] and a yellowwood of almost 20 years [13:47] The cypress is an exotic swamp dweller, will soon die of no water but the yellowwood, eish! Skade! [13:47] Maaz: coffee on [13:47] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [13:48] Amla is also wilting! [13:48] lol [13:48] He started wilting in India, should not have played to my mind [13:49] eish! 89/3 ? [13:49] Players must be picked on form, not history [13:50] yep [13:50] Yes he started the collapse, lost his wicket and upset Elgar's concentration [13:50] let's hope AB can wake up from his sleep [13:51] Coffee's ready for inetpro! [13:51] AB is wide awake but cannot win matches on his own [13:51] Maaz: dankie [13:51] Groot plesier inetpro my vriend [13:52] Kilos, did you get those numbers? [13:52] nope still looking [13:53] i dont member ever seeing the first mail with that info in [13:59] I would think it should have been an automatically-generated process via the website when the application was lodged. [14:02] inetpro, while you're here, I have had a prob with my folders. When I try to save a new [14:04] inetpro, any suggestions? when I use the "select" and "move to" options to save a document among my existing document folders, the folder list that comes up is shown in what appears to be a random order instead of alphabetical. [14:06] Langjan: what application or file manager? [14:08] Saving a new doc from Libre Office Writer into "My Documents" [14:12] inetpro, saving a Libre Office Writer doc to "My Documents" [14:15] sounds like you need to google the libreOffice forums for an answer on that [14:17] I have, no joy but will try again. Am trying to emulate the prob, unsuccessful - will have to go when it happens again. Thanks [14:17] I would rather use a file manager for managing files though [14:18] default file manager in Ubuntu is Nautilus [14:19] on KDE that would be Dolphin [14:19] but there's many others [14:19] Youve lost me now, but I have never been aware of how the docs are managed [14:22] Will Nautilus not be automatic for docs in my home folder? [14:25] a file is a file is a file [14:26] You've lost the old man inetpro [14:27] Nautilus gives you a graphical display of all your system and personal files [14:29] Nautilus shows installed and when I click open it shows my docs in home folder, also all the other files [14:29] allowing you to move and organise files and folders much more effectively than LibreOffice's file dialog [14:30] I don't know about Libre Office file dialog, only use Libre Office to generate new files [14:31] sorting and finding files is much easier in a proper file manager [14:32] inetpro, seems to me like file manager is default in Ubuntu 14.04? [14:32] 12/29 16:18:43 default file manager in Ubuntu is Nautilus [14:33] Thats what I thought [14:33] they just call it "file manager" these days [14:33] I think [14:35] Well I never have a prob managing my files except for this niggle which I am not even sure when it happens, will be on the lookout for it [14:35] it's one of those applications that everyone is just expected to magically know how it works these days [14:36] in the old days you would find a complete guide for it [14:37] some people still prefer something like GNU Midnight Commander (also known as mc, the command used to start it) [14:38] I remember peeps referring to nautilus, never knew what it was [14:38] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Commander [14:40] also worth reading is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_manager [14:44] Well I'm confident thats what my system is using - Nautilus. Thanks [14:44] on windows you would be using something called the windows explorer, not to be confused with internet explorer [14:44] even if those two are very closely linked to each other these days [14:46] make that "inseparably linked" to each other [14:50] fortunately, generally accepted throughout the Unix community, Unix programs have always been expected to follow the concept of DOTADIW [14:50] Do One Thing and Do It Well [14:53] lol [14:54] i sent the mail to them with the visa ref number in the vln place now to wait up to 3 working days for a reply [14:55] why only today oom Kilos? [14:55] should have done it at least yesterday [14:55] this is the third one [14:55] now you'll have to wait until next year [14:56] ya should have done it yesterday but one should expect at least some proficiency with visa peeps [14:56] they do it all day everyday [14:56] i even asked them to check if it hasnt been misplaced or lost [14:57] hope they don't get "gatvol" and forget about your application altogether [14:57] and to get me the vln number because i hunted all the old mails from them and no vln number anywhere [14:58] im the one that should be gatvol [14:58] wanted to spend Christmas with my girls [14:58] i also reminded them that my last application took 2 years [14:59] Kilos: it's called bureaucracy [15:00] idiocracy [15:00] a form of government, the authority of which is not so much to accomplish anything, but to obstruct accomplishment by anyone else [15:00] no wonder the world is in such a state [15:00] hahahaha so true that [15:01] or administration characterized by excessive red tape and routine [15:03] nope [15:03] its all about money [15:03] Should have been done 17 December... [15:03] if you have a few mill and want a tourist visa theyll offer an immigration visa [15:04] so they have time to work out how to get it out of you [15:04] you should have married a rich girl oom Kilos [15:05] ja [15:05] Ja jy kan nie jou familie kies nie maar jy kan jou vrou kies... [15:05] but they nag too much because they hold the purse strings [15:06] we didnt have a choice even sigh [15:06] no you do the nagging, they must just pay [15:06] first sight and all was lost [15:06] lol [15:07] Well I'm sure it will all be worth the wait Kilos [15:07] if i can get there definitely [15:07] Take heart - every day is one day closer [15:07] hahahaha [15:08] serious! [15:08] ja man but so is death [15:08] ill be a crock in a few years time [15:09] Death is an open door to eternity, life eternal given by grace to all who accept it [15:10] Gota go Kilos , will check on you again soon [15:10] go well my friend [15:11] look after yourself [15:11] ty for the help [15:11] Thanks you also, wish I could help more, only a pleasure === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [18:14] wb oom Kilos [18:14] ty inetpro [18:14] dunno why i dropped out [18:39] hi nasanzero [18:40] hey Kilos [18:40] how you doing ? [18:41] come now oom Kilos, how about doing the raindance? [18:41] hi nasanzero [18:41] hahaha [18:41] we need more than that [18:41] im good ty nasanzero and you? [18:41] hi there inetpro [18:42] i doing fine thanks [18:42] inetpro whats with the oom all the time lately [18:43] you making me feel old [18:43] you are the old oom, not? [18:43] well [18:43] um [18:43] er [18:43] hmm... [18:43] depends on who is asking i suppose [18:44] langjan calls me laatie [18:44] laaitie [18:44] haha [18:45] rather hot tonight and 36°c again tomorrow [18:45] Maaz forecast pretoria [18:45] Kilos: Tuesday: Partly Cloudy. High: 34° C., Tuesday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 17° C., Wednesday: Clear. High: 33° C., Wednesday Night: Clear. Low: 18° C., Thursday: Partly Cloudy. High: 33° C., Thursday Night: Partly Cloudy. Low: 20° C., Friday: Clear. High: 33° C., Friday Night: Chance of Rain. Low: 19° C., Saturday: Chance of a Thunderstorm. High: 32° [18:45] C., Saturday Night: Chance of a Thunderstorm. Low: 18° C., Sunday: Clear. High: 33° C.,… [18:46] weather liars give different temps [18:53] i have a question - has anyone tired to run vnc from an android phone to their linux box ? [18:54] nuvolari you still here?? [19:12] ok i will attempt it and let you how it goes [19:12] good luck [19:13] the fly might have but he seems to be busy as usual [19:13] he fiddles with everything [19:15] just like me , cant have something and not tinker with it [19:17] haha [19:17] inetpro you got some time? [19:17] i need someone to report this to youtube-dl [19:18] head too sore to work out what they want [19:18] they give info [19:18] here the command [19:18] youtube-dl -f 140 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpkewaEgtVk [19:19] i think peeps report error downloads and they fix it [19:22] without the switch things i get same error so maybe its the tube blocking something [19:36] maybe its just the https sites [19:37] i got it working really simple too [19:37] well done [19:38] you talking about vnc hey? [19:38] i am tying this from my phone [19:39] Kilos: what is wrong with that? [19:39] i get error report inetpro [19:39] yes the vnc [19:39] spam [19:39] ExtractorError: Could not find JS function u'gr'; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; see https://yt-dl.org/update on how to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output. [19:39] (caused by ExtractorError(u"Could not find JS function u'gr'; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; see https://yt-dl.org/update on how to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.",)); please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; see https://yt-dl.org/update on how to update. Be sure to [19:39] call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output. [19:40] sorry i forgot the pastebin [19:41] inetpro http://bin.snyman.info/zpyyu [19:42] i need to crash will try again tomorrow [19:42] night all . sleep tight [19:43] night Kilos [19:43] inetpro leave a message with maaz if you get there ty [19:43] ai! [19:44] * inetpro has no data to waste on youtube stuffs [19:45] nasanzero: why vnc from Android? [19:45] if you can just ssh [19:46] inetpro: just to show off to my friends , its your desktop on your phone , dont see that everyday [19:46] not very practical [19:48] its not that bad , i am posting from the phone [19:48] and? [19:49] its something i wanted to try out [19:51] wait until you see real convergence [19:51] http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-is-teasing-convergence-coming-soon-497990.shtml [19:52] i am waiting for the ubuntu tablet to get here [20:02] good night all