[02:15] do we have apport enabled on stable releases? I always thought we only kept it on in dev [03:51] I believe it's disabled during dev, enabled for release. :P [07:07] Unit193 pleia2 - as far as I know it is disabled on stable and at some point turned on for dev [12:11] flocculant: yup, though they turned it on verrrrry late last cycle [12:13] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/xenial/apport/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/changelog [12:13] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/xenial/apport/ubuntu/view/head:/debian/changelog#L174 [12:13] :D [12:15] trööt [13:14] bluesabre: yep - hence me making sure I have the info for people to do that early before they wake up :) [16:57] pleia2: lol @ yourworshipfulness :p [17:07] :D [23:02] Hrm, really not much going on this cycle. [23:03] christmas, new year [23:06] Unit193: did you expect more? [23:33] flocculant: Not really, due to LTS. But really there's not been anything much for me to poke at, so that's something. [23:33] hhe [23:33] just core ... [23:33] Yeah no, that was done last cycle.... [23:34] certainly seems to have been done with [23:34] seems like a good enough reason to have a meeting which you run next, to either give up with or push :D [23:35] hate me in the other channel ;) [23:35] Meh, not really much we can do, we've poked them quite a few times and "it's on the todo list"... [23:41] so we should officially give up waiting - I will make sure we have a monthly report [23:42] I really don't see why 'our' people should think this is our fault [23:44] it's certainly troublesome [23:44] hi all [23:44] and.... [23:44] dinner time [23:44] bbabl [23:46] bluesabre: yea for sure it is, my position is if we're giving up then we should let all know it's not us that's doing so [23:46] just basically someone not liking we called it core first [23:50] is it really just about the name? [23:53] I think so [23:53] think, but are not sure? [23:53] slangasek dressed it up in other stuff for LP [23:53] call me a cynic [23:53] (sorry, do not mean to be a prick...) [23:53] ofc [23:53] you mean he called it something else? [23:53] has anybody asked why? [23:53] neither do I [23:54] adam wondered why we called it core [23:54] right, and? [23:54] i think it was slangasek who i had this argument over the name with [23:55] he proposed a lot of other things, and i told why they aren't as good as core [23:55] should you call it that? then whatever you want to call it .. then slanglasek came up with another reason, then has studiously ignored it [23:55] adam was in channel not on LP [23:55] well i was in channel too [23:55] i haven't followed the LP side [23:55] if you have a link handy... [23:56] anyway - pretty obvious after months they are ignoring it now - so why should we not bring it up in meeting and vote to drop or not - citing canonical ? [23:56] drop what? [23:56] core for lts [23:57] why should we drop core for lts because somebody isn't content with what we are calling it? [23:57] if that is the only aspect that is problematic, that is [23:57] knome: but if we want it on cd.image then we have to at least to try it [23:58] and quite frankly I have enough to test on day 0 on my own as it is [23:58] if the name is the problem, let's call it "xubuntu humpty dumpty" to get it tested [23:59] i do acknowledge there are other issues too, but let's make sure a silly name argument doesn't make this fall