[00:56] ever since i moved to lubuntu 15.10 my mic capture is very shitty [00:57] and i need to go into terminal and alsamixer to unmute it after every reboot [00:57] !language | SebastianTCL [00:57] SebastianTCL: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [00:58] ok let´s use an euphemism lest I get misconstrued as hostile: ¨crappy¨* [00:59] I am on an hp envy dv6 laptop, sound was good with lubuntu lts but i got tired of the constant bloat and heat so i got lubuntu and started using calm window manager [00:59] might try for something that carries a little less emotional weight. "not working well" would communicate the message without the potential to offend anyone [01:00] so lubuntu was good but then you decided to change and got lubuntu? [01:07] lts was good [01:07] then i decided to get 15.10 [01:08] if you were good, why did you change it? [01:08] i basically want to have access to the *buntu base and community and run the least resource expensive version i can with cwm as window manager [01:09] wxl, what are you suggesting i go back to lts? ok but one question, will that use less resources generally speaking? [01:09] you easily could have done that from within the lts? [01:09] is there a benchmark for this? showing lts lubuntu indeed uses less resources than 15.10 [01:10] there's little reason to believe either is much different in terms of resources [01:10] like less battery power consumed,less ram per application, etc [01:11] is there a measurement for this [01:11] not that i know of [01:11] but lts worked for you and the other didn't, correct? [01:12] well there must be a fix for this from 15.10 it is the same machine [01:13] i haven't heard of a similar bug from anyone [01:13] my guess is that it would be hardware related, but it's hard to say [01:13] wxl, also, in recent times it was requiring 150mb+ upgrades daily in patches [01:13] upgrades tend to vary. i wouldn't be totally surprised by that. [01:16] the regularity of the big patches of upgrades made me think maybe there´s a new kernel or somethng that for security´s sake i should upgrade [01:16] there often are security upgrades to the kernel [01:16] this is not uncommon [01:18] also i should add that the upgrades you see in the ubuntu repos are generally synced to updates in the debian repos, so even upstream suffers a similar fate [01:18] this is just business as usual [01:19] in your case, i would immediately suspect your hardware. look up the audio card information with lspci and start googling. check dmesg and /var/log/syslog for any hints [01:20] if you come up with no luck, i'd file a bug [01:20] be as detailed as humanly possible [01:20] then post it ot the mailing list to encourage others to confirm or refute [01:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/14273222/ [01:22] try the -nn switch to get the device ids [01:23] they're 2 sets of 4 digit numbers separated by a colon [01:23] they are the most accurate way to refer to the particular hardware [01:23] then go google it! [01:23] how do i do that? [01:24] ¨-nn switch¨ [01:24] lspci -nn | grep -i audio [01:25] http://paste.ubuntu.com/14273293/ [01:25] ok what am I supposed to google [01:25] something like: [01:25] "8086:1e20" mic muted [01:25] if others have had a similar experience then you'll find reference [01:27] good luck. it's time for me to head home [01:27] wxl, would you recommend just backing up and going back to lts? [01:28] yeah pretty much [01:30] ianorlin, will it be as safe? can i tweak it to consume less resources? will the most recent versions of skype and chrome work as fast? [01:31] not sure about sykpe and chrome [12:03] hi [12:04] i have a question... i installed lubuntu on a older laptop, and when i start a terminal (nothing else) and enter "free", it shows me ~400mb ram used [12:05] i was wondering, because on another machine with debian+xfce, having started browser, irc chat, vnc prog, chat program, encryption program, and some other minor stuff it shows me ~370mb used [12:05] how is that possible? i thought lubuntu was made for low ram machines? [12:06] (or better said, it works good with older machines) [12:10] correction, with browser started its 470, without 370.. but still less memory with more programs [12:12] i think you needed stop/disable services [12:12] like cups [12:12] samba [12:12] cups is running, yes, samba not [12:13] but on the deb machine, i have the same servives and even more [12:13] thats what i dont really understand [12:13] maybe there is some issue with memory management? [12:13] thee is nothing running that isnt on the other machine [12:14] hummm [12:14] i hope the fact that on lubuntu is a i386 cpu, and on the other machine is a x64, does not make a (big) difference in programs memory usage [12:14] so [12:15] i have just 131 mb used now [12:15] i mean, its not really a big deal, but maybe some developer is interested, then im glad to provide all info he needs [12:15] lubuntu + blackbox [12:15] hmm [12:15] strange [12:15] yeah, 131 is what i was expecting from lubuntu... [12:15] but 400, just freshly started... [12:16] yeah [12:17] you need to see waht programs used [12:17] more memory [12:17] s/waht/what [12:21] i think you have much memory in cache [12:21] yes, i know that the 400 are not "used", as there is the cache, but still its what it shows at start, so i was wondering what makes use of all that memory [12:22] because compared to the other machine, it shows 370 (including cached) [12:22] so i was a little bit alarmed [12:22] :) [12:23] yeah [12:25] where/how did you see the 131 on your machine? [12:25] gkrellm [12:25] nice app [12:26] gkrellm show me 331mb free [12:26] and i have 462 mb memory [12:27] 462 - 331 = 131 [12:27] but i have 234mb in cache [12:28] 121 process for one user [12:30] hmm.. i just saw that on the other machine, htop reported ~800mb used, and free reported only 370 [12:32] but have you slow system with lubuntu? [12:33] somewhat :) [12:33] but that may be to the fact that im not used to work on such slow/old machines :D [12:33] :) [12:33] i was surfing yesterday, and i could see firefox building up the "blocks" [12:34] its a celeron m 1.6ghz [12:34] around 892mb ram [12:34] are you using your machine for daily use? [12:36] i used just for irc and one application with Eterm [12:36] like telnet [12:36] penntium 4 and 512 mb ram [12:36] 2,2 ghz [12:39] well, thanks for your help, i guess the other machine wasnt showing me the correct memory usage, and i compared them... [12:40] k [12:40] good luck [12:40] thanks :) [13:31] anyone know how to add xbacklight to startup as the default lxsession autostart window doesn't work for me? [13:33] the OOB install doesn't have brightness persistance on mine