=== shuduo_afk is now known as shuduo [11:19] ewwww what's with the new ubuntu font on xenial. text is barely legible in sdk apps :-/ === javiercrowsoft1 is now known as javiercrowsoft [19:24] popey, mhall119, balloons http://venturebeat.com/2015/12/30/debian-founder-and-docker-employee-ian-murdock-has-died-at-42/ ??? Have you heard about this? [19:31] !ping [19:31] pong! [19:45] wow that is horible Kivi [19:57] thecode15, yep :( [20:59] how hard is it to develop apps for the ubuntu phone using c++ [21:01] thecode15, not too hard [21:01] thecode15, we use qt, right? [21:01] ya [21:01] thats what the website says [21:01] And Qt makes C++ pretty damn close to high level. [21:02] thecode15, usually how it goes is that you write a QML front end, and have c++/qt on the backend. [21:02] im not talking about the c++ part im talking about the api and all that [21:02] What app do you want to build? [21:02] so its similar to doing how android does it with xml/java [21:03] "API" is too broad, and for ubuntu, I think really only applies to QML components. [21:03] Oh god, way easier than Android. [21:03] k [21:03] haha ya i really dont like android or ios dev [21:04] The little android I tried... eclipse just spewed out nonsense, and android studio looked like $#:^$YL on my computer. [21:05] thecode15, You can even develop with Go on Ubuntu :) [21:05] when the new phones come out i will probably pick one up and try it out since my computer is really slow at emulating the ubuntu and android emulators [21:05] ya but i like c++ better sorry [21:05] lol; have you done much work with Qt? Or mostly just c++? [21:06] is qt c++ different or something and i have only worked with c++ [21:06] Because honestly with QT; I prefer manipulating strings with it, than I do with Python. Hell; maybe even perl! [21:06] Qt is to c++ what std and boost is to c++, [21:06] ya imo i think a mix of python and c++ is the best for just about anything [21:07] thecode15, We do use a bit of python for testing. [21:07] "autopilot3" is a python application we use to test our gui interfaces. [21:08] o i will have to try out autopilot3 [21:09] and QML; its pretty fun to use. You can build UI's in it super quick [21:09] k thanks [21:38] Kivi: sadly yes, just learned about it a short while ago [21:39] such a sad thing [21:55] I was hoping it was a hoax.