[01:25] <muka_> can someone tell me why if I try to flash image from rc to stable I get: Flashing version 26 from ubuntu-touch/stable/ubuntu?
[01:26] <muka_> but when I check version, I get 16.
[01:27] <muka_> so rc channel current version is 16 or 26?
[06:22] <dev__> Is ubuntu touch support available for latest android version lolipop or Android-M ?
[06:50] <dev__> Is ubuntu touch support available for latest android version lolipop or Android-M ?
[10:28] <victor_bq> Hi all
[10:29] <victor_bq> someone to kindly lend me a hand?¿
[10:31] <cchriss> sure :)
[10:31] <victor_bq> great! thanks
[10:31] <victor_bq> is something regarding the updates through the UI
[10:32] <victor_bq> I was testing different update scenarios and I just noticed that krillin and vegeta were not able to detect updates through 3g
[10:32] <victor_bq> is that the expected behaviour?
[10:33] <victor_bq> (this matter comes from a customer that reported that exactly)
[10:33] <cchriss> I also noticed that on my nexus4
[10:33] <victor_bq> I
[10:33] <victor_bq> did the same in OTA 8.5 and rc215
[10:34] <victor_bq> getting the same result, no updates and then just after turnning the Wi-Fi on they arrived =)
[10:34] <victor_bq> worth a bug right?
[10:34] <cchriss> Maybe you have to adjust the setting that says "atomatically download with ... wifi/never/always"
[10:35] <victor_bq> great I'm going to try it right now
[10:35] <victor_bq> :)
[10:36] <cchriss> maybe setting this to "always" will help? i dont know  ;) But it is a bug anyway... because downloading and showing the fact that ther is an update are two different things in my opinion
[10:37] <cchriss> But to discuss this bug you might have to wait until next year ;) all the developers in this channel seem to be on vacation
[10:38] <victor_bq> yeah, I know :( but I'm still here :P bugs are always good!
[10:46] <victor_bq> @cchriss it works just like you said
[10:46] <victor_bq> =)
[10:46] <victor_bq> thanks!
[11:10] <Spacedog_ie> yoyoyoyo
[11:10] <Spacedog_ie> hi guys
[11:11] <Spacedog_ie> hi guys, what files do I need to backup/restore for contacts info?
[11:11] <Spacedog_ie> I backed up MX4 and want to restore contacts to BQ
[11:12] <Spacedog_ie> any info appreciated...
[11:15] <cchriss> So you only have the backup files? I can tell you how to export the contacts on a running system, if that helps
[11:15] <mcphail> Spacedog_ie: haven't tried, but does this help: https://gurucubano.gitbooks.io/bq-aquaris-e-4-5-ubuntu-phone/content/en/chapter9.html
[11:16] <Spacedog_ie> I only have files
[11:28] <cchriss> maybe reading this is worth a try: http://askubuntu.com/questions/293696/where-are-the-evolution-data-files-stored
[11:29] <cchriss> the $HOME/.local/share/evolution folder is filled with some files on my phone... maybe you can just copy them to your new one?
[11:32] <Spacedog_ie> yeah, doing that now
[11:33] <Spacedog_ie> $HOME/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/contacts.db seems to be where it's stored
[11:34] <Spacedog_ie> if I open the backup of this file in a text editor I can see all my amigos in there
[11:34] <Spacedog_ie> yet replacing this file does nothing?
[11:34] <Spacedog_ie> is it cached somewhere else?
[11:37] <Spacedog_ie> HAHA restart FTW!
[11:37] <Spacedog_ie> \o/
[11:37] <Spacedog_ie> thankyou guys
[11:38] <cchriss> good to know, that this works :)
[11:41] <Spacedog_ie> in the same folder there's a subdirectory called photos
[11:41] <Spacedog_ie> pulling that in gets your contacts profiles pics
[11:42] <Spacedog_ie> you gotta restart device for the contacts DB to update though, restarting the contacts app doesn't work. I'm guessing it's because evolution is managing this and running as a background process.
[20:52] <farad> hi, I cannot get any data out of the GPS of my Ubuntu Phone (Aquaris E4.5) with higher precision than some kilometers according to the sensor status applet
[20:53] <hjb> farad: what's this "sensors status applet" thingy?
[20:53] <farad> I downloaded it from the ubuntu store
[20:53] <hjb> i'm searching for something like this
[20:53] <ljp> hjb: its an app available in the store
[20:53] <hjb> ok, thnaks
[20:53] <ljp> farad: do you have mobile data enabled?
[20:54] <farad> yes
[20:54] <farad> otherwise I do not get any positions at all
[20:55] <farad> and I tried it outdoors of course^^
[20:55] <ljp> does it get better resolution if you leave it running for some time? like 30 minutes or so?
[20:55] <farad> still no data
[20:55] <farad> already checked this
[20:56] <ljp> I know there have been some issues with gps lately, but I am not quite sure of details
[20:56] <farad> OK, I have the version 15.04
[20:57] <farad> interestingly the sensor status app always displays "Sattelite" as the positioning method
[20:59] <farad> so it actually thinks, that it is obtaining the data from a GPS chip
[20:59] <farad> can I access the raw sensor output somehow
[20:59] <farad> I am not afraid of using the console
[21:00] <hjb> *g* i'd already installed that sensorsStatus app but forgot about it
[21:00] <ljp> :)
[21:00] <hjb> not happy with it at all
[21:01] <hjb> i was used to have a gps sensor status app on android that displayed the status in realtime with a compass and available satelites etc. pp.
[21:02] <hjb> according to SensorStatus my MX4 doesn't have a compass at all :/
[21:03] <hjb> can someone confirm that?
[21:03] <ljp> compass in android might depend on gyroscope
[21:04] <ljp> I only have nexus 4 at this time...
[21:05] <hjb> no gyroscope on MX4, too :)
[21:06] <farad> no gyroscope on the aquaris as well ;)
[21:06] <farad> is "here" necessary for using the GPS?
[21:06] <hjb> i hope not
[21:07] <ljp> not necessarily, I believe
[21:07] <farad> I would like to use OSMTouch
[21:07] <ljp> it might provide better resolution though
[21:07] <hjb> farad: why are you "afraid" of using the console?
[21:07] <ljp> as HERE can use agps
[21:07] <farad> not afraid I said…
[21:08] <hjb> oh, sry
[21:08] <farad> never mind ^^
[21:08] <hjb> ljp: why can only HERE use agps?
[21:08] <ljp> I'm afraid of using the terminal.. because whenever I use it, I am having to fix something :)
[21:11] <hjb> there's still a *lot* left to do to make ubuntu touch really usable, though. but i still like my MX4 ;)
[21:11] <ljp> well, currently I am not too familiar with ubuntu gps system. agps doesn't need to depend on HERE, but depending on the system it might
[21:11] <hjb> having more time i'd really spend it to dive into development
[21:13] <ljp> think I might have to dig into gps next week... as my first week working...
[21:14] <ljp> at least for my own sanity so I know whats going on
[21:14] <dobey> hjb: HERE is the only current agps option on ubuntu phone. you're welcome to help build another though :)
[21:15] <farad> hey, there is a gps device node
[21:15] <farad> I think I will start testing there
[21:16] <hjb> dobey: thanks :) what makes me wonder is that i didn't know that. there's no "hint" on my phone telling me so ;)
[21:17] <hjb> but after all that here app isn't working well with gps after all either ...
[21:18] <hjb> was on a walk in the fields yesterday and tried to view my position on map ...  well rest of the story isn't worth telling
[21:21] <dobey> hjb: it's not the HERE app that adds the agps support
[21:21] <dobey> the retail images have additional back-end to enable it, iirc
[21:21] <hjb> hmm, ok
[21:22] <dobey> so the only agps back-end is HERE, but it's not only the HERE app which can use agps
[21:22] <hjb> ah, ok
[21:23] <hjb> seems i'll have to dig further into this ...
[21:24] <hjb> haven't used gps/agps on this phone much at all, used to record my trips as gpx on android but haven't found a viable solution for ubuntu touch yet
[21:24] <hjb> but no problem ;)
[21:24] <farad> is it possible then to use gps (without a) without HERE?
[21:25] <dobey> possible yes
[21:26] <farad> is nearly everything possible but just not implemented so far?
[21:26] <dobey> but it may take a very long time to get a fix
[21:26] <farad> OK, that question got philosophical…
[21:34] <ljp> without HERE, it just takes more time to get a good satellite fix
[21:35] <ljp> or, rather agps
[21:39] <hjb> hm, that's an interesting discussion. on my (very inexpensive) alcatel phone it took a *really* long time to get a plain gps fix, even an agps one
[21:40] <hjb> i've attache an (even older) bluetooth gps mouse to it
[21:40] <hjb> guess what? that thingy got a plain gps fix in seconds
[21:40] <hjb> no idea what they've done different
[21:40] <hjb> but used that gps bluetooth mouse solely since that day
[22:46] <taiebot> Does anyone know why the rc-proposed is still getting daily updates? I thought no canonical employees were working during the holiday break? Is is just a script?
[22:47] <k1l_> might be a daily build script
[22:48] <dobey> taiebot: automation
[22:51] <taiebot> dobey:  I supppose it is non-touch related upgrades but i am getting some weird behaviour lately. I am finding my phone which looks like mir as crashed. Black screen and only hard reset wakes him up back
[22:52] <dobey> taiebot: i don't know about that. but daily image builds are automated.
[22:54] <taiebot> dobey: ok my bad i thought only devel-proposed was automated and rc-proposed still had a manual check before upload
[22:54] <taiebot> \o/ unav upate
[22:54] <taiebot> update sorry
[22:56] <dobey> taiebot: nope. things landing in rc-proposed require QA approval. but the build script just builds. some people were working today, and not all of the community is a canonical employee. so some stuff might have landed there. i don't know for sure
[22:57] <dobey> QA does a manual testing of an image before it goes to rc/stable i think, but not to rc-proposed
[22:57] <taiebot> dobey: that makes sense i received an image on the 25th