| flocculant | knome: and just how long do you think we should play this game with them? | 00:00 |
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| flocculant | I've got to have a cut off point | 00:00 |
| knome | if they won't allow the core name, let's just change it then | 00:00 |
| knome | but if they don't, they'd better have a good argument | 00:00 |
| flocculant | and given they are just playing games then my cut off off point is the 1st | 00:00 |
| flocculant | of January | 00:00 |
| knome | it's their infrastructure; i'm sure they'll happily let us run our own and call our products whatever we like | 00:01 |
| knome | do you have a link to LP where the naming discussion is? | 00:01 |
| flocculant | the more I see of this issue the more I can see why people were /o\ over other debian issues | 00:01 |
| flocculant | and yes it is the same ;) | 00:02 |
| flocculant | knome: no - the name discussion was with adam in -release | 00:02 |
| knome | maybe. | 00:02 |
| knome | ok, do you remember the date? | 00:02 |
| flocculant | 2015/4 | 00:02 |
| Unit193 | infinity didn't seem to care, just wanted to point it out. | 00:03 |
| flocculant | I've given up tbh on caring much, my position is if they eventually come through a day or so prior to release then that's really too bad and much much too late | 00:03 |
| flocculant | yea | 00:04 |
| Unit193 | I'll poke again, I suppose. | 00:04 |
| knome | i haven't seen anybody explicitly say "no" | 00:04 |
| flocculant | then slangasek disapproved - and has ignored it since | 00:04 |
| flocculant | well | 00:04 |
| Unit193 | And wonder why they don't get contributors? | 00:05 |
| flocculant | other than an apparent 'it's on my queue' comment to Unit193 | 00:05 |
| flocculant | which is as meaningless as any other comment | 00:05 |
| flocculant | oh good lord is the wiki down again | 00:07 |
| flocculant | should make sure we bring this up on the pointless CC chat I guess | 00:07 |
| knome | the wiki works for me. | 00:08 |
| flocculant | mmm | 00:08 |
| flocculant | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda | 00:08 |
| flocculant | that one? | 00:09 |
| knome | that too | 00:09 |
| flocculant | must be local for some reason then - I can get anywhere else | 00:09 |
| flocculant | or firefox - chromium landed fine | 00:12 |
| knome | i would personally find out if this is about the name or not | 00:12 |
| knome | if it's about the name, then get on with it and change to something else | 00:12 |
| knome | if it's something else... well, then just push forward | 00:12 |
| flocculant | cc meeting is 2 working days before b1 freeze so that's pointless | 00:14 |
| knome | and figure out possible blockers and see what we can do with it | 00:14 |
| knome | i don't think the CC is the right council to resolve this anyway | 00:14 |
| flocculant | I'll pinh mhall119 for the last 30 minutes of this discussion | 00:15 |
| flocculant | ping | 00:15 |
| knome | or if somebody feels like we'd like to get them involved, we can just poke them outside a meeting | 00:15 |
| knome | yes, something like that ^ | 00:15 |
| flocculant | maybe not - but given they are all on holiday till god only knows when - who do we poke? | 00:15 |
| knome | i don't know | 00:16 |
| flocculant | sorry, but I think this is about the name - perhaps amongst themselves - but ... | 00:16 |
| knome | then they should clearly state that to us | 00:16 |
| flocculant | and any reason to slow is enough | 00:16 |
| knome | in which case we will come up with a new one | 00:16 |
| flocculant | I have no trust in them anymore tbh | 00:16 |
| flocculant | as a 'group' | 00:17 |
| knome | i guess i can see that, but otoh, that attitude doesn't help at all (as you also know) | 00:17 |
| knome | we can blame them to the end of the world, but that won't make them do decisions we want | 00:17 |
| knome | might do quite the opposite | 00:17 |
| flocculant | knome: currently we're waiting for one person to find time in their queue | 00:18 |
| knome | if that's the real status (and they just don't want to do it because of the name), then we should wait | 00:18 |
| knome | we should also be in touch with them and probably get an ETA at some point | 00:18 |
| flocculant | right now - they work for me, it's taking too long so I don't even have to think about testing it ;) | 00:18 |
| knome | but i don't think there is much more to do | 00:18 |
| flocculant | as far as I now 'we' can't do more than we have | 00:19 |
| flocculant | Unit193: is that right ^^ ? | 00:19 |
| knome | not much at least | 00:19 |
| flocculant | we did what they asked | 00:19 |
| knome | yes, i have the same point of view to it | 00:20 |
| flocculant | anyway - bed for me now :) | 00:21 |
| knome | yep, have a good night and don't worry too much about things | 00:22 |
| flocculant | oh I won't :) | 00:23 |
| flocculant | if it turns up in March - too late ;) | 00:23 |
| knome | let's target for january. | 00:23 |
| flocculant | mmm | 00:24 |
| flocculant | night :) | 00:24 |
| knome | good night! | 00:24 |
| Unit193 | Well we could fix it so it applies cleanly, but I've already done that before and don't see a reason to do so again unless it'll be reviewed before I'd have to fix it yet again. | 00:31 |
| knome | at least i'd make sure the name isn't a showstopper before doing that. | 00:43 |
| Unit193 | I'd have thought they'd say that... | 00:44 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Hi. So I'm still activly using Xenial somewhere, but haven't done much reporting except for the upgrade. Is there something specific there that'd help you, or should I just continue to mention things/file reports as they crop up? | 01:16 |
| flocculant | Unit193: just carry on as you are is great :) | 07:29 |
| knome | some improvements about to land to xubuntu.org | 13:39 |
| knome | as soon as the IS team pushes the new branch revision | 13:39 |
| knome | bbl | 13:51 |
| pleia2 | ooh, rt tickets being addressed \o/ | 19:37 |
| knome | yup | 19:57 |
| mhall119 | flocculant: I read the backlog, but I don't understand the problem or it's context, can you give me a tl;dr? | 21:45 |
| knome | mhall119, we've been waiting for a merge since september; merging this change would enable a new version of xubuntu (named "xubuntu core") to be built and thus appear on cdimage.ubuntu.com; we're not exactly sure what is taking so long | 23:31 |
| knome | mhall119, one possibility is the naming; some concerns have been raised because it conflicts with "ubuntu core", but afaik, nobody has said that's the reason | 23:31 |
| knome | mhall119, another possibility is that people are simply busy | 23:32 |
| knome | mhall119, this is more problematic for us every day because as long as the official builds aren't up, we can't do official testing | 23:32 |
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