[00:00] <phillw> we use alsa as default, not pulse audio
[00:00] <bodhi_zazen> the alternate .iso appears to have performed a minimal install without X or lubuntu-desktop, not sure if you intended that
[00:00] <bodhi_zazen> looks as if it is pulling pulse
[00:00] <phillw> bodhi_zazen: no, it USED to perform that task until a a week, or two ago.
[00:00] <bodhi_zazen> I will let you know
[00:01] <adueppen> I just realized, the Ubiquity bug isn't assigned to anyone, even though my task for GCI is to fix it. Should I assign it to myself?
[00:01] <bodhi_zazen> adueppen, do you know python ?
[00:02] <adueppen> bodhi_zazen: not really but I was told it would probably be an easy fix
[00:02] <phillw> bodhi_zazen: in the script for the alternate, it should have a pretty simple tasksel lubuntu-desktop line.
[00:02] <adueppen> I have more experience with JS but wanted to try something new
[00:04] <bodhi_zazen> phillw, where is the script ?
[00:05] <phillw> not sure where the build scripts are... AFAIK, Julien provides the lubuntu-meta and the build system pulls it into the automatic build
[00:05] <tsimonq2> wxl: we don
[00:05] <tsimonq2> 't have a package set for Lubuntu?
[00:05] <tsimonq2> whoops :)
[00:07] <adueppen> bodhi_zazen: doing a bit of searching it looks like this issue might be fixed by changing `status = int(status)` from int() to float() since apparently the value of status is a decimal.
[00:08] <bodhi_zazen> sure, give it a try
[00:10] <phillw> bodhi_zazen: you'd need to poke someone like Colin, as what is front facing is http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/ubuntu-cdimage/mainline/view/head:/etc/crontab
[00:11] <adueppen> it would be almost hilarious if the fix for this bug ends up being the very first thing I looked up when I claimed the task.
[00:11] <phillw> wxl: does server image now behave as epecpected?
[00:11] <phillw> *expected
[00:13] <bodhi_zazen> still pulling lubuntu-desktop
[00:14] <adueppen> well time to reboot
[00:16] <bodhi_zazen> gtk2 and 3 engines ...
[00:17] <adueppen> well I tried editing debconf.py but that didn't fix it.
[00:18] <bodhi_zazen> same error ?
[00:18] <wxl> phillw: don't know. teward disappeared
[00:18] <wxl> adueppen: you'll need to have an image with persistence
[00:18] <adueppen> wxl: I do
[00:19] <wxl> adueppen: so you made the change and then rebooted?
[00:19] <adueppen> I just reopened the file and it's still the same as when I made changes
[00:19] <wxl> then your persistence is messed up XD
[00:19] <adueppen> wxl: no like it still has the float() that I added
[00:19] <bodhi_zazen> I don't know if persistence will help, I think a new .iso, not sure when during the boot overlay will be applied
[00:19] <wxl> oh i see sorry
[00:19] <bodhi_zazen> adueppen, error message ?
[00:19] <wxl> i think the split before takes care of the decimal anyways
[00:20] <adueppen> bodhi_zazen: you want the traceback?
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> yes, can you pastebin it ?
[00:20] <bodhi_zazen> as well as the origional bug report
[00:21] <adueppen> bodhi_zazen: the log from the original report?
[00:21] <bodhi_zazen> yes the link to the orig. reprot and the traceback after your change please
[00:21] <adueppen> ok
[00:24] <bodhi_zazen> I am on lxqt / fedora installing lubuntu-desktop in a vm
[00:24] <adueppen> wait isn't it supposed to be in /var/log/installer?
[00:25] <bodhi_zazen> not sure, lol
[00:27] <adueppen> wxl: do you know where the ubiquity log is supposed to be? I can't find it
[00:27] <bodhi_zazen> lubuntu using upstart ?
[00:28] <wxl> adueppen: traceback should be in Xorg.0.log
[00:28] <wxl> bodhi_zazen: naw we're all systemd now. there may be some leftover bits of upstart floating around, but it's not really being used.
[00:28] <wxl> for init that is
[00:29] <bodhi_zazen> ok
[00:29] <adueppen> wxl I mean the log like this one: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/230360893/UbiquityDm.txt
[00:31] <wxl> adueppen: looks like an Xorg.0.log to me
[00:31] <wxl> in fact:
[00:31] <wxl> (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Thu Dec 17 17:55:25 2015
[00:31] <tsimonq2> wxl! See cjwatson's email...
[00:32] <wxl> which one? i don't see any tsimonq2
[00:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2015-December/003488.html
[00:32] <wxl> weird i haven't got it
[00:33] <wxl> whoa ubiquity bug may be fixed!
[00:34] <bodhi_zazen> wxl, congrats
[00:37] <bodhi_zazen> wxl, what was the fix ?
[00:39] <wxl> bodhi_zazen: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/+source/ubiquity/+changelog
[00:39] <wxl> !info ubiquity xenial
[00:41] <wxl> yeah it's not in main yet
[00:42] <bodhi_zazen> windows is crashing AGAIN
[00:42] <bodhi_zazen> windows 7 on laptops has been nothing but problematic
[00:49] <wxl> ok ubiquity 2.21.41 is in main
[00:49] <wxl> reuilding desktop images
[00:51] <bodhi_zazen> ok the alt install image looks good
[00:51] <wxl> except for the fact that lubuntu-desktop didn't install correct bodhi_zazen ?
[00:51] <bodhi_zazen> yes
[00:51] <wxl> which is NOT ok
[00:52] <bodhi_zazen> pulseaudio is installed
[00:52] <wxl> someone needs to check server and see if there's problems there
[00:52] <bodhi_zazen> not sure if it is running or not
[00:52] <bodhi_zazen> also it does not seem to like the spice server
[00:59] <bodhi_zazen> is there some package or configuration for ubuntu to use spice ?
[01:07] <adueppen> will the updated ubiquity be available in tomorrow's ISO?
[01:07] <bodhi_zazen> OK, well I am done testing for the day
[01:07] <wxl> adueppen: yes but i'm rebuilding the isos now
[01:07] <bodhi_zazen> let me know if you need anything more
[01:07] <adueppen> wxl: OK thanks
[01:10] <bodhi_zazen> ok, got spice fixed, had to add tablet to guest
[01:11] <tsimonq2> !info ubiquity xenial
[01:11]  * tsimonq2 kicks ubot93 
[01:12] <tsimonq2> !info ubiquity xenial
[01:12] <tsimonq2> !info ubiquity
[01:17] <tsimonq2> ubot93: wake up!
[01:17] <tsimonq2> !info ubiquity
[01:17] <tsimonq2> !info ubiquity xenial
[01:17]  * tsimonq2 gives up
[01:53] <ianorlin> oh wow just got email but how long until we can respin?
[02:13] <Kamilion> http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/news/g3-strong-geomagnetic-storming-likely-31-december
[02:17] <Kamilion> wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14301937
[02:17] <Kamilion> wajig says "unable to locate package apt-setup" when i ask it to 'show apt-setup'.
[02:18] <adueppen> did I miss anything from when I accidentally closed my laptop lid?
[02:18] <Kamilion> Ubiquity calls itself version 2.21.40 when I ask wajig to 'show ubiquity', but it also shows as "not installed".
[02:18] <adueppen> wait did the new ISOs become available?
[02:18] <Kamilion> no idea
[02:19] <Kamilion> [15:25:31] <wxl> Kamilion: pastebin the sources.list and gimme a version on apt-setup please  <--- responding to this
[02:19] <Kamilion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14301937/
[02:19] <Kamilion> wajig says "unable to locate package apt-setup" when i ask it to 'show apt-setup'.
[02:20] <tsimonq2> adueppen: yes I think
[02:20] <Kamilion> VM destroyed, moving on to 1230.1
[02:21] <adueppen> hmm there does seem to be a new ISO that was uploaded at 7:41PM cst
[02:21] <adueppen> whois wxl
[02:22] <adueppen> whoops meant to have a slash before that
[02:22] <Kamilion> pulling http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20151231/ to test
[02:22] <Kamilion> no http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/20151231/   yet to try the alternate
[02:23] <adueppen> Kamilion: I'll test the daily-live image too
[02:37] <adueppen> just tested, bug has not been fixed in the latest daily
[02:39] <adueppen> ubiquity is still on the older version
[04:07] <Kamilion> 20151230.1 seems to have apt working.
[04:07] <Kamilion> but still missing lubuntu-desktop
[04:08] <Kamilion> wajig
[04:08] <Kamilion> install lubuntu-desktop htop iftop byobu
[04:08] <Kamilion> whoops, wrong window
[04:08] <ianorlin> Kamilion: what is the right window for that?
[04:08] <Kamilion> virtualbox :<
[04:09] <Kamilion> ... what the hell
[04:09] <Kamilion> need to get 442MB of archives, 1788MB of additional disk space? for lubuntu-desktop?
[04:09] <Kamilion> from the lubuntu-alternate?
[04:09] <ianorlin> what it is it installing?
[04:09] <Kamilion> I don't know?
[04:10] <Kamilion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14304605/
[04:10] <Kamilion> Doesn't look like much, and a bunch of those were from me installing wajig
[04:11] <Kamilion> but yeah, the alternate's still fudged hard (but it appears the apt-setup issue is fixed)
[04:12] <Kamilion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14304643/
[04:12] <Kamilion> there's the sources.list for 20151230.1
[04:13]  * Kamilion demolishes the VM
[04:14] <Kamilion> next, 20151231 daily-live.
[04:17]  * ianorlin starts zsyncing amd64
[04:17] <adueppen> Kamilion: if you look above, I tested the 1231 daily-live and ubiquity hasn't been updated in it yet.
[04:18] <ianorlin> !info ubiquity
[04:18] <adueppen> ianorlin: the latest version is 2.21.41
[04:18] <adueppen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1527353/comments/8
[04:18] <Kamilion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14304810/
[04:19] <Kamilion> 2 minute gap between "Install Ubuntu" starting ubiquity, and me starting it from lxterminal
[04:19] <Kamilion> same Null Cursor as before.
[04:20] <Kamilion> Alllrighty, that's all of the validation tasks I had for the day
[04:21] <Kamilion> adueppen: did you require anything else?
[04:21] <adueppen> Kamilion: ?
[04:21] <Kamilion> I can't remember
[04:22] <Kamilion> was just the ubiquity problem, right?
[04:22] <adueppen> Kamilion: yes
[04:22] <Kamilion> Alright, cool.
[04:22] <ianorlin> yes it installs once ubiquity starts in the live session if you have enough resources
[04:22] <Kamilion> sorry, I've got a million tabs and private messages open XD
[04:22] <Kamilion> right, it's crashing the first time though.
[04:23] <Kamilion> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14304810/   <-- when "Install Ubuntu" is selected from the boot menu instead of the live desktop.
[04:23] <ianorlin> on virtualbox?
[04:23] <Kamilion> vbox, vmware esxi, native boot./
[04:23] <ianorlin> yeah it might be my desktop crashes faster on kvm
[04:23] <Kamilion> 2GB to 64GB of ram
[04:23] <Kamilion> so it's definitely not a resource problem
[04:23] <adueppen> Kamilion: It's crashing the first time but isn't updated in the newest daily-live yet
[04:23] <Kamilion> at least, not on my end
[04:24] <ianorlin> I don't think it is in the latest xenial repos so even if we respun the isos again not sure it would work
[04:25] <Kamilion> http://puu.sh/mesX8/f921175812.png
[04:28] <adueppen> Kamilion: wow I can see what you mean by "a million tabs"
[04:29] <Kamilion> only 189
[04:29] <tsimonq2> 0.0
[04:29]  * Kamilion has four windows like that open.
[04:29] <adueppen> I can only have 4GB ram on my desktop
[04:29] <adueppen> motherboard limit
[04:29] <Kamilion> ah.
[04:29] <Kamilion> my motherboard limit is 1TB
[04:30] <Kamilion> http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron6000/SR56x0/H8QG6-F.cfm
[04:30] <Kamilion> and my case...
[04:30] <Kamilion> http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/748/SC748TQ-R1400.cfm
[04:30] <adueppen> Kamilion: as soon as I see supermicro, I know they mean business...
[04:45] <Kamilion> pretty much.
[12:43] <bodhi_zazen>                 
[14:22] <teward> phillw: Kamilion: wxl: tsimonq2: the apt-setup bug is resolved in the 20151231 of Server, anyone want to test the Lubuntu Alt to see if that is resolved for you guys as well?
[15:04] <teward> oop wait
[15:04] <teward> wxl: ping - need you to respin the ISOs and rebuild - 20151230.1 won't help us, with some of these, (we need 20151231)
[17:34] <wxl> teward: i need to respin what now?
[17:34] <teward> wxl: nevermind we are waiting on cron
[17:34] <teward> but there was no 20151231 iso build
[17:34] <teward> :P
[17:34] <teward> at least, not for alternate
[17:34] <wxl> whaaa
[17:35] <teward> but now there is
[17:35] <wxl> we should have got one at 1645 or so
[17:35] <teward> it's up now
[17:35] <teward> but it WASN'T when I pinged
[17:35] <wxl> k good
[17:35] <teward> :)
[17:35] <wxl> who's up for testing? adueppen phillw tsimonq2 Kamilion ?
[17:36] <adueppen> wxl: is there an ISO with the new version of ubiquity available yet?
[17:36] <wxl> adueppen: what version number?
[17:36] <teward> wxl: i know it works in Server, so the alt should be good with the sources.list issue :P
[17:36] <adueppen> wxl: 2.21.40
[17:37] <adueppen> wait no it's 2.21.41
[17:37] <adueppen> !info ubiquity xenial
[17:37] <wxl> !info ubiquity xenial
[17:37] <wxl> hahahah great minds think alike :)
[17:37] <adueppen> yeah
[17:38] <adueppen> seems to be updated now
[17:38] <wxl> so that looks good
[17:38] <wxl> let's check one more place
[17:38] <adueppen> I'll do some i386 testing because GCI
[17:38] <wxl> if you look on cdimage.u.c you can see the .list files that include all the packages
[17:38] <wxl> i recommend:
[17:39] <wxl> wget -q something.list -O - | grep ubiquity
[17:39] <wxl> which gives us 2.21.41
[17:39] <wxl> for e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20151231.1/xenial-desktop-amd64.list
[17:39] <wxl> just passing that on for your general testing edification :)
[17:39] <wxl> but yes please test!
[17:40] <wxl> teward: last night when bodhi_zazen tested alternate with the correct apt-setup version, we didn't have a lubuntu-desktop in the install
[17:40] <wxl> teward: was server having any problems with proper tasksel installs?
[17:40] <teward> wxl: haven't tested those yet
[17:40] <teward> only tested the cdrom issue
[17:40] <teward> but i think tasksel may stillbe having issues
[17:40] <teward> there's a few other things on my list to test, but i haven't gotten to SErver TaskSel tasks yet
[17:41] <teward> those're different testcases
[17:41] <teward> they're on my list but i'm doing devel testing for something for my workplace first now, as it's "Top Priority"
[17:41] <teward> and for every hour I bill on that I make $15 so... :P
[17:42] <wxl> yeah i have some urgent work stuff to do, too, but if you or someone else on server qa team could check that and report back, i'd really appreciate it
[17:42] <wxl> otherwise i'll get my testers on it but i think not everyone's awake yet
[17:43] <wxl> phillw: your connection issues get resolved?
[17:43] <phillw> not until 4th Jan :)
[17:43] <adueppen> wxl: I'm pretty sure tsimonq2 isn't up yet, which doesn't surprise me knowing him.
[17:43] <wxl> darn >:(
[17:43] <wxl> adueppen: you have his phone number? >:)
[17:43] <adueppen> wxl: no sorry
[17:44] <adueppen> wxl: he's not on hangouts either so a video call wouldn't work either
[17:44] <wxl> darn
[17:45] <wxl> too bad there's not a gci list that reaches out to all the students
[17:45] <adueppen> wxl: maybe suggest that to google for next time
[17:45]  * wxl nods
[17:46]  * tsimonq2 yawns loudly
[17:46] <tsimonq2> morning yall
[17:46] <adueppen> good morning tsimonq2
[17:47] <tsimonq2> just woke up
[17:47] <adueppen> see above
[17:47] <wxl> tsimonq2: please check and confirm again lubuntu alternate is not having the problem with sources.list
[17:47] <wxl> tsimonq2: then check to see if lubuntu-desktop is included in the install. if not, dig and see if we can find info about what's up with tasksel. make a bug.
[17:48] <wxl> tsimonq2: then check server and see if it, too, is having problems with tasksel
[17:48] <adueppen> oh yay now my internet is being weird again. ETA going from 2min to 26 to 3.
[17:48] <tsimonq2> I will when I clean out my email and respond to the millions of pings I got on IRC :P
[17:48] <wxl> teward: can you give tsimonq2 an example testcase to check server taskel?
[17:48] <wxl> tsimonq2: maybe if you dole out the pings less, you'd get less back :)
[17:48] <tsimonq2> ha lol
[17:48] <tsimonq2> never goona happen ;)
[17:51] <teward> wxl: unless he doesn't have access to the ISO tracker he can access them himself
[17:51] <wxl> teward: yes i'm sure he does, but is it obvious?
[17:51] <teward> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109595/testcases
[17:51] <teward> Install tasks
[17:51] <teward> Bind9
[17:51] <teward> Mail Server
[17:51] <teward> Print Server
[17:51] <teward> OpenSSH Server
[17:52] <teward> LAMP
[17:52] <teward> etc.
[17:52] <wxl> hear that, tsimonq2 ?
[17:52] <teward> additional install test cases
[17:52] <tsimonq2> me runs his script while he is checking his email and such, so I can have fresh ISOs
[17:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: hm?
[17:52] <teward> [2015-12-31 12:48:20] <wxl> teward: can you give tsimonq2 an example testcase to check server taskel?
[17:52] <wxl> tsimonq2: when you test server use that link above and check one of the tasksel test cases like e.g. OpenSSH server
[17:53] <wxl> aww my lug accepted my pull request http://euglug.org/ </offtopic>
[17:54]  * tsimonq2 has done Server test cases before and can manage to find a good test case as long as everybody who has theirs in progress marks it as so, thank you
[17:55] <tsimonq2> so I know :P
[17:55] <wxl> tsimonq2: check in with me or teward if you have questions
[17:55] <teward> tsimonq2: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109595/testcases/1406/results is a big one :P
[17:55] <teward> please run the testcase
[17:55] <tsimonq2> woah jeez give me 10 minutes
[17:56] <teward> no rush :)
[17:56]  * teward yawns and lurks some more
[17:56] <tsimonq2> reading my email...wxl, since those bugs are fixed, are we gonna go forward with the delayed time?
[17:57] <tsimonq2> *emails
[17:57] <tsimonq2> as in Aplha 1
[17:57] <adueppen> well here's the moment of truth
[17:58] <adueppen> YES
[17:58] <adueppen> Ubiquity is fixed
[18:00] <wxl> sweeeeet
[18:00] <tsimonq2> ok, now idling waiting for my ISOs to sync...
[18:00] <tsimonq2> :P
[18:00]  * tsimonq2 checks RSS
[18:00] <wxl> tsimonq2: i think so, but i wanted to get a little spot check done today
[18:02] <tsimonq2> seriously?! I am getting ~ 500 kBps down!
[18:03] <wxl> good job tsimonq2
[18:13] <adueppen> on the current daily image, the ubiquity slideshow shows "Welcome to Lubuntu 15.10" and I can't seem to find this reported anywhere. what package would it be in?
[18:14] <adueppen> I don't think it would be in ubiquity itself since the slideshow is customized for each flavor
[18:36] <wxl> hey tsimonq2 when you get a chance after you've done everything else i asked, could you check to see if other flavors have that slideshow issue adueppen mentioned? he'll give you a bug number in a bit
[18:42] <wxl> adueppen: could you please make a comment on the ubiquity bug that it's fixed as far as you can tell and reference the particular image version and architecture?
[18:42] <adueppen> wxl: sure
[18:43]  * tsimonq2 starts
[18:43] <tsimonq2> stupid zsync speed
[18:44] <tsimonq2> I need fiber! :P
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[18:45] <teward> tsimonq2: no you need 100Mbit/second cable :P
[18:45] <teward> (also offtopic)
[18:46] <adueppen> teward: I have 60Mbit/second cable, is that good enough? (offtopic)
[18:47] <teward> adueppen: lol, yeah that's fine
[18:48] <adueppen> teward: yeah I know, it's good enough that I mailed a flash drive to a friend in Canada since his internet is slow enough that it would be faster than him downloading it
[18:48] <wxl> hHahahahah
[18:59] <tsimonq2> wxl: yay I know I have the new server ISO because the installer is updated
[18:59] <tsimonq2> wxl: when I put in a password, it gives me an option to show it which is a godsend
[19:19]  * wxl does not click
[19:30] <tsimonq2> hm?
[19:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: ping ping ping, Print Server doesn't show up in the options for the Server ISO, this test case: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109595/testcases/1408/resultshttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109595/testcases/1408/results
[19:32] <tsimonq2> gosh darnit, only: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109595/testcases/1408/results
[19:33] <tsimonq2> screesnhot on it's way
[19:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: http://imgur.com/S75eSDC
[19:34] <tsimonq2> I have no idea why...
[19:37] <adueppen> tsimonq2: just a tip, if you press your host key in Virtualbox + E it'll take a screenshot of just the VM screen
[19:38]  * tsimonq2 facepalms
[19:38] <tsimonq2> thanks adueppen
[19:38] <adueppen> tsimonq2: it took me a while to find it too
[21:35] <Kamilion> urrrgh.
[21:35]  * Kamilion stretches
[21:35] <Kamilion> wxl: so, the apt-setup patch worked.
[21:36] <Kamilion> gonna test the ubiquity bug in a few minutes
[21:36] <adueppen> Kamilion: it seems that the ubiquity bug has been fixed
[21:37] <adueppen> this hell is finally over
[21:38] <Kamilion> oh
[21:38]  * Kamilion aborts then
[21:39] <Kamilion> adueppen: good timing, I was *just* getting into the folder to download it from, heh
[21:39] <adueppen> Kamilion: I commented on the bug as well
[21:40] <Kamilion> adueppen: I just got back to the computer; legit have ~30 pings to deal with, heh
[21:41] <adueppen> Kamilion: at least you didn't wake up with 1106 hangouts messages like I did
[21:41] <Kamilion> .....
[21:42] <Kamilion> my gmail *inbox* doesn't even get that volume, what the heck, is that all porn spambots or something?
[21:43] <adueppen> Kamilion: someone spamming a group chat with stickers to try to cover up some information
[21:43] <Kamilion> "stickers"?
[21:44] <adueppen> these stupid little pictures in Hangouts that are essentially glorified emoji
[21:44] <Kamilion> *sigh*
[21:44] <adueppen> hopefully next year's word of the year isn't one of them
[22:05] <ianorlin> and I thought launchpad could get spammy ....
[22:20] <wxl> disappeared but back now
[22:20] <tsimonq2> heyyyyyy it's wxl
[22:21] <ianorlin> hmm is there a bug number for the tasksel problem?
[22:21] <ianorlin> if we get it at least confirmed or triaged maybe put it on server team next meeting agenda if in a good state if it is not something we fix ourselves
[22:22] <wxl> i don't know of a bug number yet ianorlin
[22:22] <wxl> tsimonq2: did you ever get to that?
[22:22] <tsimonq2> wxl: QA? yeah
[22:22] <wxl> tsimonq2: a bug report for the tasksel issues?
[22:22] <ianorlin> I know how to do get log files I could do it if there is not one already and then maybe tsimonq2 can confirm
[22:23] <tsimonq2> k
[22:23] <ianorlin> as simple ubuntu-bug will not work
[22:48] <ianorlin> hmm what to file the bug against?
[22:48] <ianorlin> tasksel?
[22:48] <wxl> ianorlin: for the time being, that's what i would do
[22:49] <Kamilion> hm, i think 222 tabs open is getting a little excessive for me
[22:49] <Kamilion> but half my RAM is still free XD
[22:50] <Kamilion> tasksel issue? anything I can help with?
[22:52] <wxl> Kamilion: alternate installs end up with no lubuntu-desktop installed
[22:52] <Kamilion> wxl: at ISO build time or at install time?
[22:52] <wxl> Kamilion: what would be nice if someone could check if the server images are also having issues with taskel
[22:52] <wxl> Kamilion: install. images build fine
[22:53]  * wxl is considering trying to implement opendkim at work
[22:54] <Kamilion> I was really annoyed when I downloaded the lubuntu alt and then stared at apt-get install lubuntu-desktop asking for 400MB of downloads and 1.7GB of disk space being used
[22:54] <Kamilion> I was like "what the heck were all those bytes I downloaded for then?!"
[22:55] <wxl> heh
[22:55] <Kamilion> is it not including the lubuntu-desktop package on the ISO or something?
[22:55] <Kamilion> how can it still be so big?
[22:55] <wxl> yeah i don't know wactually
[22:56] <adueppen> it is apparently oversized like always, so that may be part of it
[22:57] <wxl> according to the .list files, both the wily alternate and the current xenial alternate includes the deb file for lubuntu-desktop
[22:57] <wxl> lubuntu-core is included as well
[22:58] <wxl> openbox and pcmanfm are there
[22:58] <wxl> lxtask, lxshortcut, lxterminal, lxrandr, lxlauncher, lxinput, lxappearance, etc
[22:59] <wxl> so everything should just work
[23:00] <wxl> looks like we got a hang on reboot still with desktop
[23:02] <wxl> adueppen: you might want to pick one of {Xubuntu|GNOME} won't reboot bugs to be a duplicate of the other and generalize the master to refer to all flavors. might be good to check against ubuntu, kubuntu, etc.
[23:02] <wxl> adueppen: you can use that for an improve bug report task on GCI
[23:03] <adueppen> wxl: could that count for the "Improve a Lubuntu bug report" task that I recently claimed?
[23:03] <wxl> adueppen: great minds think alike, again :)
[23:04] <adueppen> wxl: Just wanted to make sure
[23:04] <wxl> adueppen: no prob. let me know if you need any help with it.
[23:04] <adueppen> wxl: OK thanks
[23:04] <wxl> adueppen: thank YOU :)
[23:05] <adueppen> wxl: aww thanks :)
[23:05] <wxl> adueppen: it seems like you're destined to be a regular lubuntu contributor beyond GCI and there's nothing that delights me more
[23:06] <wxl> well, some things, but they're offtopic. XD
[23:07] <adueppen> wxl: I'm actually looking a bit more at Ubuntu GNOME since that's the distro I use but I'll probably continue with L/Xubuntu since it's easy to run in a VM on my crappy computer
[23:08] <wxl> adueppen: still, contributing to the project at large is wonderful and makes me very happy
[23:13] <Kamilion> Same.
[23:14] <wxl> honestly that's the best outcome with could hope to come out of GCI. teaching students about open source and how easy it is for them to be a regular part of it.
[23:14] <Kamilion> adueppen: also, ubuntu-gnome is my second-choice, so any improvements there are welcome as well. Anything that improves GTK+ will benefit lubuntu until lxqt appears
[23:24] <ianorlin> bug 1530397 is the bug I filed would welcome suggestion to get something that important