[23:28] <tsimonq2> Ok, this issue has plagued me for weeks and I can't seem to figure it out
[23:28] <tsimonq2> on two laptops, none of which can connect to our WiFi
[23:28] <tsimonq2> one runs Trusty and the other Wily
[23:29] <tsimonq2> I am connected via Ethernet
[23:29] <wxl> what cards
[23:30] <tsimonq2> wxl: but they can connect to other networks just fine, although I will check
[23:30] <wxl> well that's strange
[23:30] <ianorlin> could be wierd router issue
[23:31]  * wxl nods
[23:32] <tsimonq2> AR5413/AR5414 Wireless Network Adapter, Qualcomm Atheros
[23:32] <tsimonq2> and they could connect good in like August
[23:32] <tsimonq2> suddenly it wouldn't work anymore
[23:33] <wxl> what are the pci ids?
[23:33]  * tsimonq2 just gets wxl a pastebin of sudo lshw -sanitize
[23:34]  * wxl prefers lspci -nn 
[23:34] <wxl> especially piped through a wisely chosen grep :)
[23:35] <tsimonq2> I will get you lspci -nnvvvvvvvvvv
[23:35] <wxl> actually you might want to -nnk and see what kernel module you're using
[23:36] <wxl> http://store.steampowered.com/app/70300/
[23:36] <tsimonq2alt> ok I am on the laptop
[23:37] <tsimonq2alt> so I am gonna get you a pastebin link of sudo lshw -sanitize
[23:37] <tsimonq2alt> (owner of the laptop is our neighbor, so I am using his WiFi for now)
[23:38] <tsimonq2alt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14347604/
[23:38] <tsimonq2alt> wxl: ^
[23:38] <tsimonq2alt> wxl: what else should I look at?
[23:39] <wxl> ugh no pci id or kernel modules
[23:39] <wxl> you should try lspci -nnk :)
[23:39] <ianorlin> https://gist.github.com/4f51cd320813062899c9
[23:39] <tsimonq2alt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14347663/
[23:39] <ianorlin> this is the kind of format I think wxl wants
[23:39] <wxl> +1 ianorlin
[23:40] <wxl> so your pci id is 168c:001b
[23:40] <tsimonq2alt> yep I guess
[23:41] <wxl> can you see the networks ok?
[23:41] <tsimonq2alt> yep
[23:41] <tsimonq2alt> his, mine, and some other ones
[23:43] <tsimonq2alt> wxl: Is there anything you need to see on the router side?
[23:44] <tsimonq2alt> wxl: should I maybe do a factory reset and connect using the default credentials
[23:44] <wxl> hold on, digging
[23:46] <tsimonq2alt> wxl: well it allows me to enter the password but it won't let me connect
[23:47] <wxl> anything in dmesg or syslog, tsimonq2alt ?
[23:48] <tsimonq2alt> hmm I will try connecting and see what it says, so I will drop the connection from this nick although my other computer is nearby
[23:50] <tsimonq2alt> ok back, let me look now
[23:50] <wxl> also tsimonq2 this seems to be really helpful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LinuxWireless?action=show&redirect=KernelTeam%2FLinuxWireless
[23:52] <tsimonq2alt> in dmesg it's throwing this error: denied association (code=18)
[23:52] <tsimonq2alt> gotta eat some food, but I will check the password on the router just in case