[06:16] <rtm> I'm running Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 5, and it works well.   But I need to be able to run X11 legacy apps.   I can't get Xmir to work.   Is there an "Xmir Howto" or something similar that explains how to get Xmir working?
[10:03] <mcphail> If I format my SD card as ext4, mount it and bind-mount subdirectories under $HOME, will confined apps be able to see those directories or will I get apparmor denials (similar to symlinking)?
[13:30] <peat-psuwit> Touching is broken on LG D410 (my port) when upgrade from 20151218.1 to 20151221. What have been changed between these versions?
[14:01] <jdstrand> mcphail: confined apps will be able to see those directories
[14:01] <jdstrand> (since there is nothing to resolve the path to something else)
[14:02] <mcphail> jdstrand: thanks! Wanted to check before I reformatted my card. Want to add extra storage for a chroot, but keep plenty of SDcard space for music etc
[14:05]  * mcphail plans to play with xmir
[16:40] <someguy1232> good day #ubuntu-touch. I am looking at buying a nexus 7, and would like confirmation that any of the devices will work.
[16:43] <someguy1232> that is, I dont need to worry of different CPU or video cards not being supported (some say nvidia-tegra, arm, Qualcomm, etc).
[16:52] <Elleo> someguy1232: it needs to be the 2013 nexus 7 model, not the 2012 model (they're different devices), other than that I don't think there's anything to worry about
[17:39] <peat-psuwit> Touch screen on LG D410 (my port) is broken when I upgrade from 20151218.1 to 20151221. What have been changed between these versions?
[17:43] <anpok_> hm
[18:04] <dobey> someguy1232, Elleo: only the wifi 2013 nexus 7 model is officially supported as well.
[18:06] <Elleo> dobey: ah, didn't realise there was a difference with the LTE version; do those not work at all or is it just the LTE part that doesn't work?
[18:08] <dobey> Elleo: the device name is different between lte and wifi models. wifi is "flo" and is what's on the official image server. there's a community build for "deb" (the LTE model), but that server is woefully out of date with meaningful channels, and i haven't had time to set up an alternate server myself (nor a device to test with myself)
[18:11] <Elleo> dobey: ah, okay thanks
[18:16] <someguy1232> Thanks Elleo and dobey. That calms me greatly.
[18:29] <anpok_> as soon as peat-psuwit comes back, tell him that this is udev/libinputs fault, and one of those needs fixing..
[18:30] <anpok_> peat-psuwit: hm
[18:30] <anpok_> could you provide information about the touch screens
[18:32] <anpok_> peat-psuwit_: we switched to libinput
[18:32] <anpok_> peat-psuwit_: with that udevs device deteciton is useed
[18:34] <peat-psuwit_> anpok_: I don't know what make & model is the touchscreen. The phone is Qualcomm-based.
[18:34] <anpok_> peat-psuwit_: doesnt matter much.. it depends more on the driver..
[18:36] <anpok_> but if you can provide the contents of the rouchscreen sys folder we can fix that easily
[18:36] <anpok_> or it might be that the touch screen sends awkward events..
[18:37] <anpok_> could you file a bug report..
[18:37] <anpok_> against canonical-system-image.. and mir..
[18:37] <anpok_> then you need to provide some information
[18:39] <peat-psuwit_> anpok_: Ok. What should I provide on the bug report?
[18:40] <anpok_> peat-psuwit_: could you attach /var/log/lightdm/system-compositor.log
[18:41] <anpok_> then .. search in /sys/ for a directory that contains a directory called capabilities
[18:41] <anpok_> those are the input devices..
[18:46] <anpok_> then for each of the devices paths, strip the prefix /sys and run "udevadm test-builtin input_id /devices/WHATEVER_THE_REMAINING_PATH_TO_THE_DIRECTOR_IS/"
[18:46] <anpok_> and it will tell us if udev successfully discovers those devices as touchscreens and phone buttons
[18:57] <peat-psuwit_> anpok_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1530384
[19:01] <anpok_> wow thx
[20:54] <Nirgal> Hi there. I just got a nice bq phone with Ubuntu. I have a bunch of questions now. Like how do I enter a wifi password for starter. And how can I read/write the adress book (I don't mind hacking)
[20:55] <Nirgal> ops, the wifi password is now showing up :)
[21:11] <JanC> Nirgal: what do you mean by "read/write address book" ?
[21:14] <JanC> it's using evolution-data-server internally
[21:18] <Nirgal> I mean I'd like to sync it with my own that uses a private format. I'll look into that, thanks :)
[22:11] <Nirgal> Isn't it possible to download applications without registering ?
[22:54] <JanC> Nirgal: IIRC you can use SyncEvolution (probably check Ask Ubuntu for that)
[22:55] <JanC> Nirgal: not in the store scope, but you can install apps from the commandline