[07:11] <Kilos> morning all
[07:59] <inetpro> good morning Oom Kilos 
[07:59] <inetpro> oh and hi to everyone else 
[07:59] <inetpro> did you see the sad news? 
[08:00] <Kilos> hi inetpro  what sad news?
[08:02] <inetpro> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/ian-murdock-father-of-debian-dead-at-42/
[08:02] <inetpro> a very sad loss under very strange circumstances 
[08:04] <inetpro> we would probably have not had Ubuntu if it was not for him 
[08:05] <Kilos> ai!
[08:17] <inetpro> a key statement of his character is posted in that article above, "The time has come to concentrate on the future of Linux rather than on the destructive goal of enriching oneself at the expense of the entire Linux community and its future,"
[08:18] <MaNI> 42, shame not even that old
[08:19] <elacheche> :(
[08:19] <inetpro> way too young
[08:21] <inetpro> still very puzzling that his twitter account has been closed down 
[08:21] <MaNI> maybe he put someone in charge of closing his accounts or something
[08:21] <MaNI> either that or it was getting hateful troll stuff on it
[08:21] <inetpro> his website is at http://ianmurdock.com/ with a huge amount of info there
[08:24] <inetpro> at least that is still alive and probably well mirrored by now 
[08:24] <Kilos> strange
[08:30] <inetpro> The cause of death is not known at this stage, but it is not believed to be suspicious. A spokesperson for Docker said it was a "private matter."
[08:30] <inetpro> according to http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/12/30/ian_murdock_debian_founder/?mt=1451545047053&utm_content=buffer549ef&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
[10:10] <magespawn> good day 
[10:18] <inetpro> wb magespawn 
[10:27] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[10:34] <magespawn> ty
[10:36] <magespawn> Happy New Year
[11:03] <inetpro> magespawn: uh, unless you're in New Zealand now, it is still 31 December here in Pretoria 
[14:50] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:56] <inetpro> . 
[14:57] <inetpro> Kilos: you planning to see the fireworks at midnight? 
[14:58] <Kilos> nope inetpro but it will most likely wake me if the party at neighbours doesnt
[14:58] <inetpro> you should be able to see city centre from your place 
[14:58] <Kilos> fireworks look good but i dont know how peeps can afford it 
[14:58] <Kilos> prices are crazy
[14:59] <Kilos> we a bit low i think but might see the higher rockets
[15:00] <Kilos> and we normally see those on the church street side of the mountain
[15:01] <inetpro> I would have to get to the top of the mountain in order to see anything 
[15:02] <Kilos> i dont norally bother
[15:03] <Kilos> bright coloured flashes are bright coloured flashes
[15:03] <inetpro> yeah I normally go sleep way before all the craziness as well 
[15:03] <Kilos> nd easier to see on tv news
[15:04] <Kilos> like at 1 pm they already showed auklands display
[15:04] <Kilos> from a big tower
[15:04] <inetpro> poor dogs are suffering already 
[15:04] <Kilos> yes thats the worst park of it all
[15:04] <Kilos> part
[15:05] <Kilos> most dogs are scared outa their skins almost
[15:06] <Kilos> oh i got one reply from the 3 mails i sent the visa peeps
[15:07] <Kilos> very talkative peeps
[15:07] <Kilos> Good day
[15:07] <Kilos> Please note that application still under process.
[15:07] <Kilos> oh inetpro 
[15:07] <Kilos> ideas
[15:08] <Kilos> when i do apt-get update the security updates make the bloep sound but i cant get it to work on konversation on this laptop
[15:09] <Kilos> so where does the update thing get it from
[15:09] <inetpro> good question, will have to check later 
[15:09] <Kilos> i have put bell.ogg in /usr/share/sounds/
[15:10] <Kilos> but it goes pling inna feeble way
[15:10] <Kilos> no rush
[15:10] <Kilos> laptops are funny things
[15:11] <inetpro> have never heard a bloep sound when doing updates on my side 
[15:12] <Kilos> oh my
[15:12] <Kilos> mine does
[15:13] <Kilos> so i can count security upgrades without even looking
[15:13] <Kilos> hehe
[15:48] <Kilos> ohmy
[15:48] <Kilos> fly crashed
[15:53] <Kilos> wb superfly 
[16:02] <smile> bye :)
[16:03] <Kilos> aw
[16:03] <Kilos> i didnt even say hi to him
[17:44] <Langjan> Hi Kilos , any news?
[17:45] <Kilos> hi Langjan they actually replied to one mail
[17:45] <Kilos> not the auto way
[17:45] <Langjan> Wow! What said?
[17:45] <Kilos> and said this
[17:45] <Kilos> hehe
[17:45] <Kilos> Good day
[17:45] <Kilos> Please note that application still under process.
[17:46] <Langjan> Eish! Is that it?
[17:46] <Kilos> Regards
[17:46] <Kilos> DIBP
[17:46] <Kilos> yip
[17:46] <Kilos> haha
[17:47] <Langjan> Lag as jy moet huil, dis die SA ding
[17:47] <Kilos> its much better than and auto reply or even nothing
[17:48] <Langjan> Well I would pressure them about their promises and 30 day process undertaking
[17:48] <Kilos> thats one mail of the three, others werent even auto replied
[17:48] <Langjan> Make a nuisnace of yourself so they issue it to get rid of you
[17:48] <Kilos> if i do that just now they ignore me completely
[17:48] <Kilos> haha
[17:48] <Langjan> I dont think so
[17:49] <Langjan> Be courteous but insistent - it is not you that said 30 days
[17:49] <Kilos> well now i have the one that i get a reply from ill mail that one weekly
[17:49] <Langjan> daily
[17:49] <Kilos> lol
[17:50] <Langjan> ok my friend, hope you have  good New-Years eve and that 2016 will be a great one for you
[17:50] <Kilos> i sent you my mail
[17:51] <Kilos> everything of the best to you and family as well thank you
[17:53] <Langjan> Thks, seems you will reach quite a Milestone if this one is issued soon
[17:53] <Kilos> yeah hehe
[17:53] <Kilos> dont be clever either
[17:54] <Langjan> But its ridiculous, I would really pressurise them. 
[17:54] <Kilos> i will every week
[17:55] <Kilos> flights too expensive now anyway
[17:55] <Kilos> much worse than before christmas
[17:55] <Kilos> so looks like feb will be ok
[17:55] <Kilos> sigh
[17:56] <Langjan> Ja, thats one benefit - you will probably save a bit on flight ticket. Ok let me love and leave you, enjoy your evening.
[17:56] <Kilos> ty for caring , take care
[17:56] <Langjan> My pleasure, hou moed! Alles sal regkom. 
[17:57] <Kilos> ek sal dankie
[18:52] <Kilos> wonerful new year for all of you. hopefully better than this year.
[18:53] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:34] <Wolfeyes> Evening everyone
[19:40] <inetpro> good evening Wolfeyes 
[19:42] <Wolfeyes> hey inetpro
[20:08] <Wolfeyes> if I don't see everyone again, have a happy new year***!!!*****
[20:08] <Wolfeyes> night night
[22:05] <inetpro> Happy New Year!