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acetakwasWhat is a good sticky note app for LXDE that's consistent across restarts?00:07
acetakwasWhat is a good sticky note app for LXDE that's consistent across restarts?00:24
bazhangacetakwas, apt-cache search term for it00:26
acetakwasbazhang::  I need a recommendation00:27
acetakwasI currently have Rhinote00:27
ctlaltdelacetakwas: tomboy good00:28
acetakwasBut it doesn't cache or auto save00:28
ctlaltdelacetakwas: doesn't it?00:28
acetakwasctlaltdel::  I'll try that, thanks00:34
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MonyHi. Has anyone managed to have working uvesafb during boot + nvidia proprietary driver and keeping keyboard input during boot. The problem is that i managed to run the FB at 1920x1080 no problem. but i can't input anything during boot. alt+f1/12 work but the current input during boot does not. Was gonna be okay if i wasn't using full disk enc, so i'm unable to boot this way :D01:04
TJ-Mony: if it's doing a graphical boot, you need Plymouth cooperation for reading the keyboard. Does the system have vt_handoff= on the kernel command-line?01:11
TJ-Mony: sorry, the generated value on the command-line should be "vt.handoff=7" ... generated from /etc/grub.d/10_linux when vt_handoff=1 in /etc/default/grub01:13
MyFriendwhat is the name of the calculator app01:13
MyFriendto call it from terminal01:13
MyFriendnevermind01:15
MyFriendi downloaded a chrome extension01:15
MyFriendtheni read the permission and uninstalled it01:15
MyFriendit said it gave access to my browsing content etc01:15
MyFrienddid i made fatal irreversible mistake and now everything is compromised? is there something i can do now?01:15
drakon-mrtgcal01:17
drakon-mrtgcalc01:17
MonyTJ-, i was not aware of that. i will give it a try. Ty!01:27
TJ-Mony: to be clear: 10_linux hardcodes "vt_handoff=1" but the vt.handoff=7 is only added to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT if that variable also contains "splash"01:32
kisukeok,ive got a bit of a weird one, anyone running on mac HW in here? i need to kill the speaker at boot, and know it can be set via /sys/firmware/efi/vars/systemaudiovolume-<guid>/ but not sure how/what needs changed.01:33
daftykinsthere's some info on the intel mac page, but it's quite out of date01:33
daftykinsusers need to edit that wiki themselves if any progress is to be made01:33
TJ-kisuke: why does the speaker need 'killing'? Is it generating white noise or something similar?01:34
kisukeTJ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9qOJqNjalE01:35
kisukethat plays at statup.01:35
kisukeIT MUST DIE. mostly because its a NAS/HTPC appliance.01:35
daftykinsthat's in the EFI01:36
daftykinsyou're not gonna fight that without voiding the warranty and any support on that hardware01:36
daftykinsyou also need to keep that to identify system issues when things go wrong, since Apple's EFI is so rubbish at feedback :)01:37
kisukedaftykins, 2nd hand, and buntu is already installed, so pretty sure the warrenty is already void at this point.01:37
daftykinsi mean a bit more than that01:38
kisukedaftykins, also chimes of death have been dead sence 9801:38
daftykinsthat's not what i'm talking about01:39
daftykinsbut yeah, pretty sure it's very low level so it's not up to the OS to resolve that01:39
kisukeyou mean if i managed to make a shiny white brick out of it.01:39
kisukethe reason is its a volums setting thats set from OSX, and is currently being exported to linux via /sys/firmware/efi/vars.01:40
boxmeinhttp://tcp.mniip.com/xcbm01:41
boxmeinis my HDD on fire01:41
daftykinsboxmein: 31 deg C is an impressively low value for fire01:43
TJ-kisuke: what is the current value of that variable?01:43
boxmeindaftykins: I didn't mean actual fire01:44
boxmeindaftykins: good answer tho :P01:44
boxmeinanyway the SMART values give types of "Pre-fail" and "Old-age", are those related to the variable or the current value01:44
daftykinsboxmein: solely the variable ID01:44
daftykinsnothing is wrong there bar ID 19901:45
daftykinsthe errors beneath the table of data though are funky... Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x05c3d50f = 9672014301:45
daftykinspresumably something caused the disk to abort from reads of that LBA01:46
daftykinsthose were also a long time ago01:46
kisukeTJ-, looks to be ";"01:48
TJ-kisuke: is that from 'cat'-ing the node?01:48
TJ-kisuke: from what I read, if using Mac OSX, its "nvram -p SystemAudioVolume %XX" ... which would lead us to expect a numeric value when reading the node01:49
kisukeTJ-, http://i.imgur.com/EQHsLy7.png01:50
kisukeas faras i can tell efivars is no longer a thing.01:50
TJ-kisuke: OK, so ";" is the ASCII character of the value maybe01:51
kisukethats my thought.01:51
TJ-kisuke: which would be decimal 5901:51
kisukenot dec 59?01:52
TJ-kisuke: can you do "pastebinit <( ls -l /sys/firmware/efi/vars/SystemAudioVolume*/) "01:52
kisukeTJ-, what package is pastebinit in?01:53
daftykinspastebinit01:53
TJ-kisuke: same as the program name itself01:53
kisukeyeah, just figured taht out ./facedesk01:53
boxmeinoic01:53
TJ-kisuke: typing the command, if not installed, should tell you :D01:53
kisukeTJ-,  ^^01:53
kisukehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14301259/01:54
titanium17hi guys, new to ubuntu here, made the switch after using windows for 9 years01:54
titanium17i installed ubuntu gnome. My laptop has a nvidia geforce 840m gpu, and I read that installing drivers is a pain01:55
TJ-kisuke: try reading the "raw_var" node seeing as that is the only one with write permissions01:55
kisukesee the image.01:55
daftykinstitanium17: 15.10?01:55
TJ-titanium17: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"01:55
justmeWow....I'm online ! Have been trying to get onto IRC with HexChat....couldn't figure it out....got this and BANG....I'm here !01:56
titanium17TJ-, thank you! will try that now01:56
daftykinsjustme: yay! and now you're off topic :)01:56
titanium17daftykins, it is 14.04 LTS01:56
titanium17im playing it safe since i am a linux noob01:57
daftykinstitanium17: nice, same as above then01:57
TJ-kisuke: "pastebinit <( sudo cat /sys/firmware/efi/vars/SystemAudioVolume-7c436110-ab2a-4bbb-a880-fe41995c9f82/raw_var | hexdump -C )"01:57
kisukewhy did i not think of hexdump?01:57
TJ-kisuke: it's the time of year :D01:57
kisukehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14301369/01:57
titanium17also is it possible to have mac-like gestures on ubuntu? currently multi touch is not working on my asus laptop01:58
kisukeand i've been dealing with winblows almost excluseivly recently.01:58
daftykinstitanium17: again, above command may offer different drivers01:58
ameydo you mean expose and things lke that?01:58
TJ-titanium17: you really don't want to use my Mac gestures :P01:58
ameyi can think of hotcorners inunity tweak tool01:58
titanium17so rather than "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall", should I go to the nvidia website and pick one?01:59
kisukeTJ-, 3B does line up with semicolen. (yay, ASCII > UTF-8 mutability)01:59
DragoniousI was updating my friends HP Elitebook 6930p to 15.04  and after a restart it now boots to tty1 and not GUI can anyone asist me on how to remedy this issue01:59
justmeMay be a driver problem....I have a BamBoo drawing pad connected to Ubuntu and it still has gesters etc....available in the set-up just like when attached to my iMac02:00
TJ-!info efivar | kisuke do you have these tools installed?02:00
ubottukisuke do you have these tools installed?: efivar (source: efivar): Tools to manage UEFI variables. In component main, is optional. Version 0.21-1 (wily), package size 7 kB, installed size 54 kB (Only available for amd64; i386; ia64; armhf; arm64; armel)02:00
kisukeTJ-, no package for efivar.02:00
TJ-kisuke: oh... which release is that you're using?02:00
kisukeunless... (googles how to enable restricted on server)02:01
ubuntu-mate#ubuntubr02:01
TJ-kisuke: it's in main component02:01
dexter__salut02:01
dexter__ya des francais?02:01
daftykins!fr02:02
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.02:02
kisukehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14301434/02:02
kisukeTJ-, straight from /etc/lsb-release02:02
daftykinstitanium17: no never download from nvidia.02:02
ubuntu-mate#ubuntu-br02:03
acalbazabefore i go mucking with things... it looks like i have a drive automounted, but i want to statically name the mount point.  how can i tell where the automount is coming from?02:03
kisuke!trusty02:03
ubottuUbuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu and is the latest !LTS version. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ - CHECK FOR POINT RELEASES at http://releases.ubuntu.com - Release Info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes02:03
kisukethats what i thought02:03
kisukeTJ-, any ideas?02:04
TJ-kisuke: !info efitools trusty | kisuke02:05
TJ-!info efitools trusty | kisuke02:05
ubottukisuke: Package efitools does not exist in trusty02:05
DragoniousAnyone have minute that can help me fix this laptop?02:05
kisuke^^02:05
TJ-errr... yes it does!02:05
kisuke!ask | Dragonious02:05
ubottuDragonious: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:05
kisukeTJ-, installing02:06
Dragoniousubottu sorry will practice patience02:06
ubottuDragonious: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:06
TJ-kisuke: efitools is in universe component; it has the tool efi-updatevar and efi-readvar02:06
TJ-kisuke: "man efi-readvar" and "man efi-updatevar" :)02:06
kisukewould be nice if therewas a metapackage for efivar..02:07
TJ-kisuke: lookout for the man-page error; calling the tool efi-readvars02:08
kisukeupdatevar looks fine on mine02:08
titanium17its funny, my touchpad scrolling doesnt work, so i cant scroll up to see messages i missed here02:08
titanium17there is no scroll bar either -_-02:08
daftykinspage up.02:08
titanium17didnt work02:08
daftykinsclick in the text body02:09
titanium17oh, numlock02:09
daftykinsinstall a real client maybe if this is webchat :)02:09
titanium17ok i am a computer noob02:09
TJ-kisuke: it looks like efi-updatevar is there only for the key database :(02:09
titanium17no, this is xchat02:09
slidinghorntitanium17: use PgUp/PgDn instead....using irssi and similar clients, thats how to scroll02:10
titanium17also, is there any recommendations that would make ubuntu gnome more visually appealing without draining too much of battery life?02:10
kisukeTJ-, yep. variable SystemAudioVolume is not a UEFI secure boot variable02:10
titanium17i installed solarized for the terminal, now it looks much better02:10
daftykinsaesthetics are too personal a decision02:11
titanium17slidinghorn, thanks. I was using pageup with num-lock on :P02:12
kisukecan reset the VMram via HW, so might be time to hook it back up to a screen02:12
daftykinszap that PRAM! :)02:12
* daftykins groans at mac talk02:12
kisuke...Im a phreaking idiot.02:12
kisukeBRB.02:13
daftykinswhat happened?02:13
titanium17is there a command to check if my gpu is being used? for some reason my system settings wont open02:15
Dragonious I was updating my friends HP Elitebook 6930p to 15.04  and after a restart it now boots to tty1 and not GUI can anyone asist me on how to remedy this issue02:15
kisukeone kb, sec02:16
kisukehave osx install media, can use that02:17
Bashing-omtitanium17: ' sudo lshw -C display ' in the "donfiguration" line should list a drivr in use .02:17
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daftykinsDragonious: might as well just keep going, 15.04 only has one month left - get it online via network cable and then focus on fixing 15.10 instead of 15.04 imo :)02:19
Dragoniousdaftykins How do I do that without losing my friends data?02:20
daftykinsupgrade via CLI if you can reach one02:21
calherHow do I get my new NVidia graphics card working in  Trisquel GNU/Linux?02:21
TJ-titanium17: after installing the driver you'll need to do a system reboot so the kernel loads it, and the GUI X server loads its userspace module, too02:21
DragoniousDaftykins CLI?02:21
daftykinscalher: if Trisquel is another distro, it is not supported here.02:21
daftykinsDragonious: command line, so the TTY you can get to - get the wired LAN up then do-release-upgrade again02:22
terrasapienDragonious: and failing that, back up from cli and do a fresh install02:22
daftykinswell you could just boot a live session and mount the /home partition / path02:23
rwwcalher: ask #trisquel, perhaps :)02:23
terrasapienif the system boots, and you have a shell, you can save all data02:23
calherrww: #Trisquel won't tell me.02:24
DragoniousOk I believe it is online via wireless what be the command I would use to test the internet?02:24
daftykinsping google.com ...02:24
daftykinscalher: doesn't make it an ubuntu problem.02:24
kisuketerrasapien, dd if=/home of=/dev/null very fast :P02:25
calherdaftykins: I was just trying to see if popey would get pinged.02:25
Dragoniousreturned unknown host so not online :( let me get a cable for it one sec. And Thank you all for your time and assistance02:25
* rww raises an eyebrow02:25
terrasapienkisuke: yet fairly useless sending all /home to /dev/null02:26
daftykins!behelpful | kisuke02:26
ubottukisuke: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.02:26
fonzwhat version of *buntu 15.10 installs bugfree with virtualbox02:27
fonzbugfree meaning it doesn't crash vb02:27
daftykinsask the #vbox folk02:28
daftykinsconsider not using 15.1002:28
fonzusing pre-release software is just 1 of my hobbies along with base jumping and extreme skiing02:29
acalbazai want to mount one of my drives to a different mount point.  i already see it mounted, but i dont see it in fstab.  how can i tell where its getting automounted from?02:29
daftykinsfonz: that would be 16.04 then02:30
daftykinsacalbaza: /media/username/blah by any chance?02:30
kisukeTJ-, oddly i can set itin the installer, it shows the new value, but resets on reboot02:30
acalbazadaftykins: yup02:30
daftykinsacalbaza: auto or from a nautilus click then, so just specify it and on reboot it'll be the fstab entry and not the auto.02:31
acalbazadaftykins: thanks... i was wondering what would take precedence02:31
Abe_if you install ubuntu on a playstation 3 can you still play ps3 games?02:33
SchrodingersScatcan you install ubuntu on a playstation 3?02:34
daftykinsnot for years02:34
SchrodingersScatthen no02:34
daftykinsyellow dog linux was the last main supported one i think02:34
daftykinsAbe_: both actions would be a waste of time :)02:34
SchrodingersScatcould you still play tuxracer in linux?02:35
Abe_I just wanted to know if it's possible02:36
daftykinsand you have your answer02:36
daftykins-> go to other distros :)02:36
Abe_I wasn't going to do anyway just curious if you could like dual-boot the ps3 would be neat. I would be to afraid of doing this anyway ^^02:37
daftykinsbest bring us real queries in future then, not silly hypotheticals02:38
Bashing-omSchrodingersScat: Super Tux ! http://ubuntuhandbook.org/ . Will be available in 16.04's repo .02:38
Dragoniousdaftykins when I restarted the laptop to check the LAN cable I see a FAILED message "Failed to start Load Kernal Modules"02:39
DragoniousFollowed by "see systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service for details"02:40
Bashing-omDragonious: Are you booting presently to terminal ? gotta enable and as well start networking .02:41
Dragoniousdaftykins it boots to tty1 on its own, and I appologize in advance not very savey with the command line stuff.02:42
DragoniousIt lets me log in via tty102:42
Bashing-omDragonious: Try: ' systemctl enable NetworkManager.service ; systemctl start NetworkManager.service ' then see if we have a connection ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com' .02:44
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Dragoniousbashing-om ok slow down is that all one line or multiple lines ?02:45
Bashing-omDragonious: That is 2 commands to start networking and 1 to verify .02:46
Dragoniousbashing-om Thank You02:46
Bashing-omDragonious: Let's see if it works .02:47
DragoniousFailed to execute operation: Interactive authentication required02:49
Dragonioussame for restart02:49
TJ-Dragonious: prefix each command with "sudo "02:49
Dragonioustj thank you02:49
Bashing-omDragonious: try as "sudo ....... " . :)02:49
Dragoniousok now I get No such file or directory?02:51
daftykinssmells like an install so wonky it'll need a live session and chroot02:52
Bashing-omDragonious: versiy spelling and syntax . copy and paste ?02:52
TJ-LOL :D02:52
TJ-Dragonious: what does "cat /proc/cmdline" show ?02:53
TJ-Dragonious: as its an upgrade it may still be using the Upstart alternative02:53
DragoniousI verified the input and tried again with sudo no such file or directory02:54
DragoniousBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-74-generic root=UUID=4c3d26e4-57f9-4030-8681-72356e0b55a1 ro quiete splash vt.handoff=?02:57
titanium17that ubuntu drivers autoinstall screwed things up :(02:59
titanium17i think nvidia drivers got installed, but it didnt let me reboot02:59
titanium17i did ' sudo apt-get purge nvidia-* ' to revert back to the intel gpu02:59
Dragonioussorry let me correct the tail end there it should be " ro quiet splash vt.handoff=703:05
DragoniousI cant copy paste as I chatting from my pc so03:05
Bashing-omDragonious: Ouch .. booting trusty kernel and " 20:40 < Dragonious> Followed by "see systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service for details" "" says 15.04 . I do not know what now to advise .03:06
Dragoniousok well thank you all for your help03:09
hack_Hello, I want to make a bash script run at startup *before* xfce4 starts but I have a couple questions about how to do it03:12
hack_first off, since the script needs access to the internet, is there a special way or point during the startup it needs to be ran, and secondly ... how the heck can I even do this?03:13
Bashing-omDragonious: Maybe good at this point to back up the personal data ; before proceeding to try and get networking up .03:13
Dragoniousbashing-om my thoughts exactly ;p03:13
Dragoniouswas gonna make a live cd and see if it will let me move the data to safe spot03:14
daftykinsi'm kinda curious as to if the /var/cache/apt/archives has all the packages and a good "sudo apt-get -f install" would make any headway, but that's probably a fair stretch03:14
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Bashing-omdaftykins: Dragonious Sure will be worth a try . Can not hurt to see what results .03:15
Dragoniousbashing-om daftykins ok will try03:16
titanium17guys, whenever i try to install an nvidia driver, i am unable to reboot03:16
ameyhow can i make a program that allows me to cd into a folder and run a .sh script?03:17
hack_I know it probably involves init.d or something, but ... dang, I just can't find the specific info I need without reading tons of technical stuff and I'm really suffering from info overload right now03:17
daftykinsyou mean boot after, not the actual going down for reboot?03:17
Dragoniousseams to be working03:17
titanium17daftykins, i install driver and reboot, it gets stuck03:17
daftykinstitanium17: yeah which one?03:17
titanium17i did the ubuntu-drivers autoinstall03:18
daftykinsdon't say "nvidia"03:18
daftykinsi'd like a specific version #03:18
titanium17oh 1 second03:18
titanium17daftykins, it was nvidia binary driver - version 35632.03:19
titanium17352.6303:19
daftykinstitanium17: yep that's the likely bad one, try older like 340 or 346 if available03:19
ameyhow can i make a program that allows me to cd into a folder and run a .sh script?03:19
titanium17alright, thanks daftykins will try now03:20
hack_Could someone please explain to me what I would need to do in order to run a script during each startup after the network is activated but before xfce4 is?  I really need some help here!03:22
fonzput it in /etc/crontab03:23
fonz@reboot is how you tell it to execute upon startup or reboot03:24
fonz@reboot root (your command here)03:24
fonzi create a root user because going without is just too weird for me03:25
hack_@fonz I tried that, either it started at the wrong time entirely or is never started at all03:25
Dragoniousbashing-om draftykins looks like it went through with no errors whats the command for to restart the pc03:26
hack_@fonz what I need is for it to start at a specific point during the startup process, not at a timed interval which will most likely not correspond at all the actual time my system boots up03:26
daftykinsDragonious: sudo shutdown -r 003:27
fonzhack: i suppose you could find the startup script you'd like it to begin after and then append your code after that with &&03:27
daftykinsmaybe if we were told what you're trying to achieve, someone'd know03:28
hack_um honestly, I would rather not kludge it into a working system script.  It has to do with downloading an image then altering the symlink pointing to my current desktop wallpaper ... as such if it is not done before xfce4 starts up, the desktop will not automatically change.03:30
daftykinsoh so a seriously important task then03:30
fonzi got 16.04 running in vbox03:31
hack_when I had it in crontab the thing didn't even run at all, unless I manually ran it03:31
daftykinsfonz: #ubuntu+103:31
titanium17daftykins, 340 didnt work either03:31
hack_daftykins: be glad you're not ocd, doesn't matter how important it is, this drives me nuts03:32
daftykinshack_: nah trying to come up with a label and saying it's why you are the way you are online, is off topic03:32
daftykinstitanium17: be sure it's bringing in nvidia-prime with it ; if you purged nvidia* again; try "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install nvidia-346 nvidia-prime"03:32
hack_well, trying to figure out another way since crontab doesn't seem to work is tho03:33
titanium17ok thanks, will try now03:33
daftykinsi'm assuming "sudo crontab -e" was the used command03:34
daftykinsand that the script is executable for the given user03:34
hack_daftykins: yes to both, so all I can figure is there is an issue with crontab or it is a timing issue03:35
Dragoniousdaftykins bashing-om  still getting the same failure guys.03:36
daftykinsDragonious: so to be sure, you don't even see a graphical login screen, it just dumps to tty1 at boot and nothing else?03:37
Bashing-omDragonious: Networking ? What returns for an IP address ' ifconfig ' ?03:37
Dragoniousdaftykins yes exactly I see the splash screen for a split second then tty103:38
hack_sorry I bothered you guys, I'm just going to get off until I can think clearly enough to read the documentation again03:38
daftykinsi take it alt+<function keys> changes nothing?03:38
Bashing-omDragonious: A broken graphics driver ( proprietary ) could cause that .03:39
genewitchis there any version of ubuntu that is a drop in replacement for windows at install time? like has unzip, 7zip, pdf, openoffice(whatever), chrome, java, email clients, etc03:39
thomedyim confused because im not sure what to do.. i think i broke my ubuntu03:39
thomedyi could just reinstall and i would probably prefer tht but i need a place to put my back up03:39
daftykinspaint me a picture with your words, of what you see...03:39
genewitchi want to start a computer repair place for old people and switch them all to linux, basically anyone that isn't going to game03:39
thomedyso im goin to try to fix this one03:39
Dragoniousbashing-om I return inet addr:127.0.0.103:39
thomedyheres my question03:39
daftykinsgenewitch: not even vaguely on topic, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or #linux03:40
thomedymy software center isn't working.03:40
genewitchi've used kubuntu for thos03:40
genewitchdaftykins: or you'll do what03:40
DragoniousI was thinking maybe something with the graphics driver from some of the forum posts I read but tbh I didnt understand it all03:40
genewitchi'm asking in here because i generally use ubuntu or derivatives for this03:40
daftykinsgenewitch: this isn't a threat, it's the friendly suggestion that you take the topic of conversation to a channel meant for it :)03:40
thomedyi read that if tht is teh case change the nme nd i did tht then i did03:40
daftykinsgenewitch: then phrase a support question please.03:41
thomedysoftware-center in commnd line and it didn't open03:41
thomedyit tried to open but it didnt03:41
genewitchwhat version/distro of ubuntu is best for being an OEM03:41
genewitchhow's that03:41
daftykinsno difference.03:41
daftykins!oem03:41
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate03:41
genewitchis there a way to automate upgrades between LTS, or is that always going to be a hands on sort of thing (i've never had any issues since 8.10)03:43
daftykinsalways manual intervention03:43
Bashing-omDragonious: ' cat /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf ' is there the exact field " managed=false " . See if we can get networking up manually ??03:43
genewitchand the ubuntu LTS release schedule is predictable?03:43
genewitch8, 10, 12, 1403:44
daftykinsevery 2 years, but LTS to LTS upgrades are only available once the new reaches the .1 release03:44
genewitchokay, great.03:45
daftykinsDragonious: yeah i was curious what graphics hardware is on here03:46
Dragoniousbashing-om manage=false is there03:46
Dragoniousdaftykins it was working fine till I told it to upgrade im not sure if it even finished the upgrade to be honest03:47
daftykins"cat /etc/issue" + "lsb_release -a" says 15.04 and vivid?03:47
Dragoniousdaftykins yes to both questions03:49
daftykinsDragonious: do you know the graphics hardware in this one? "lspci | grep -i vga" will show03:50
Dragonioussays no lsb modules available though if that matters03:50
daftykinsnah03:50
happyfaceHi, i was trying to install a library, when an error came up "/bin/bash: indent: command not found". How do i solve it?03:50
daftykinspastebin of the whole story03:51
Dragoniousdaftykins how do I make the character between lspci and grep?03:52
happyfacedaftykins, where you talking to me?03:52
daftykinsDragonious: err well i don't know where in the world you are for what your keyboard looks like, the UK one has pipe | to the immediate right of left shift03:52
Bashing-omDragonious: K; The GUI Netwwork-manager controls networking, let's find what the network is indentified as . ' ip route show ' . The 1st line should show something similar " default via 192.168.0.1 dev eth1 " Your device is eth0 ? or ?03:52
daftykinsUS has it above the enter key i think, with \03:52
Dragoniousip route show returned no output03:55
daftykinsyou can use the full "lspci" and look for vga/graphics if you can't find pipe03:55
happyfaceHi, i was trying to install a library, when an error came up "/bin/bash: indent: command not found". How do i solve it?03:55
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Dragoniousdaftykins Im in the US and I dont have the key your refering too03:56
daftykinshappyface: yes, i was saying pastebin the whole story from the start03:56
Ben64happyface: you need to explain the full thing, like daftykins said03:56
daftykinsDragonious: well "lspci" will be fine03:56
kolariscw=X]R!LNQ6AL03:57
daftykinsDragonious: yeah it's definitely supposed to be above enter as per - https://documentation.vizrt.com/viz-easycut-guide/4.12/vizeasycut_usersguide_us_keyboard_layout.png03:58
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daftykinskolaris: stop it.03:58
Bashing-omDragonious: daftykins Maybe best to try and get the GUI up, and work networking ftom the GUI ?03:58
daftykinsBashing-om: mmm was hoping to identify the graphics to maybe purge any proprietary drivers if they're conflicting03:58
Dragoniousvga compatible controller Advanced Micro Devices {Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470}03:59
happyfacedaftykins: Ben64: http://pastebin.com/jxFzpRPu03:59
daftykinsDragonious: and this was the normal ubuntu with the unity desktop?03:59
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daftykinskolaris: leave04:00
Dragoniousdaftykins yes very old install from 14.xx somewhere friends has used and upgraded as available for the last few years04:00
Ben64daftykins: looks like some kind of encryption04:00
daftykinsnah, looks like an idiot to me :)04:01
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happyfacedaftykins: Ben64: http://pastebin.com/jxFzpRPu04:03
daftykinssaw, ignored04:04
happyfaceCould you help me out daftykins?04:05
daftykinshappyface: nope04:06
daftykinsi see you compiling something, ubuntu's about packages :)04:06
OerHeksmissing 'indent' http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=indent04:07
OerHeksnow find out what dev package you need, i guess04:08
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titanium17is it worth trying to configure touchegg to get gestures to work?04:13
titanium17it seems a pain04:13
Bashing-omDragonious: Radeon HD 3450/3470} == there are no longer any proprietary drivers avalable for this card. check and see that the open source driver is loaded : ' sudo lshw -C display ' . What have you in the "configuration" line ?04:14
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Dragoniousbashing-om driver=radeon latency=004:16
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daftykinsi reckon whatever DE that is, it should have a manual start tried04:17
Bashing-omDragonious: Well, tha correct driver is loaded .. humm .. got to put my think'n cap on .04:17
daftykinsbut it sounds like your entire init system is borked04:17
daftykinsDragonious: "sudo service lightdm start" do anything?04:17
dostripzDragonious: okay04:17
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Dragoniouscan you ignore someone in this chat?04:19
daftykins"/ignore <nickname>" might work depending on what you're typing from04:19
Dragoniousdaftykins we have desktop!!04:19
daftykins:O04:19
daftykinsyep borked init04:19
myzticDragonious: that's up to your client04:19
myzticme thinks04:19
daftykinsunfortunately resolving that is totally beyond me04:20
daftykinsDragonious: i reckon you should continue on the upgrade to 15.10 idea :)04:20
daftykinsmaybe backup beforehand, also04:20
Dragoniousdaftykins thats ok I can at least plug in a usb and backup his stuff04:20
daftykinsgood plan :D04:20
daftykinsi'm calling it a night there, later folks o/04:20
Dragoniousdaftykins thank you kind soul04:21
daftykinsnp, glad we found it04:21
dostripzmyztic: it's not Dragonious04:21
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Bashing-omDragonious: daftykins We systemd ot upstart as the init system ? what returns ' sudo stat /proc/1/exe ' ?04:23
Dragoniousbashing-om one sec let me back up his things04:23
Dragoniousbashing it wont let me open my usb stick say I dont have permission04:29
Dragoniousbashing-om04:29
Bashing-omDragonious: "sudo" makes you the boss of it .. preceed your copy commands with the term "sudo" .. amd try again .04:32
Dragoniousbashing-om Im in the desktop trying to use the drive but when I plug it in it says Im not "authorized"04:33
Bashing-omDragonious: The desktop of a live environment ? Attempting to copy off the install's /home directory files ?04:35
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Dragoniousbashing-om no Im trying to backup his photos and videos04:35
Dragoniousbut the pc tells me Im not authorized to mount the usb04:36
Bashing-omDragonious: Maybe change ownership of that mount point ? What returns ' ls -al /media/<username> ' with the USB drive plugged in .04:37
Dragoniousbashing-om drwxr-x---+ 2 root root 4096 dec 28 16:03,  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 jul  6 19:1504:42
Jabbbahi all I just installed debian on encrypted /, i made a /boot partition and converted an ntfs partition to EFI partition, it installed but now I can't boot on linux, my motherboard boot list put a mirrored "N" sign like the russian letter and when I try to boot on it nothing happens, any idea ?04:46
Bashing-omDragonious: Sorts stuck with where you are. On my system I plug in a usb drive, get an icon on the desktop, click on it to mount it, enter my password in the pop up, and mounted in /media I get " drwx------  8 sysop sysop 16384 Dec 31  1969 8023-774F " from my command ' ls -al /media/sysop ' ... Are you similar ?04:50
Dragoniousbashing-om no,04:51
Dragoniousas soon as I plug in a usb device it says unable to mount you aare not authorized04:51
Dragoniousbashing-om well Im going to call it for tonight I have to work in the morning so bed is calling, but thank you for your time and effort on this I do appreciate it04:54
Bashing-omDragonious: It is late here for me .. past my quitting time, so pardon me if my think'n is cloudy. in terminal do ' groups' .. is " sudo " and "plugdev" in that returned listing ?04:56
Dragoniousbashing-om Im sorry I just shut it down :(04:56
RetroAshhttps://img.sauf.ca/pictures/2015-12-29/c12fc3b2278596da4a26edd4a41f3373.pdf04:57
RetroAshplop04:57
Bashing-omDragonious: Is OK, we take this back up later tomorrow evening after I get in from working .04:57
DragoniousBashing-om I will try to see you here then and thank you again04:58
neodementorholaaa04:58
codepython777I'm interested in running ubuntu on dell i7359-5984SLV - anyone here running that?05:00
Bashing-omDragonious: NP ! .. So long as we all work together to a common goal . You have my interest .05:02
pishtahello, can anyone assist in a sound card issue?05:05
myzticany administrators / admins present05:10
pishtaIm having no luck installing snd-hda-intel based realtek chip based Toshiba A105 laptop, Mint 17.3 shows no sound hardware but alspci shows hda05:10
myzticgot a private message from a user called dostripz (from this channel) that reads "Hey dick-face. Welcome to ##ubuntu. Have a fucked up life and die." user details dostripz@185.93.181.86 - he immediately logged off afterwards05:11
myztiche might have sent this to multiple people, don't know05:11
myzticscreenshot: https://mega.nz/#!h0cnjDZS!fX427-_VZ36aCjqlmqIKTkk3lch9PBqmnBJco1V1vRE05:12
myzticneedless to say I don't know this person05:13
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logikosany idea why this command (to mount a qnap NAS): mount -t nfs -o username=myuname,password=mypass 192.168.2.11:/Public /mnt/ltnas -  would produce this error: mount.nfs: an incorrect mount option was specified05:20
davidhMy NAS only can use CIFS, so I'm not sure if that affects the syntax...05:27
davidhbut I would do the mount command as such:05:28
davidhmount -t cifs //192.168.2.1/Public -o username=xx,password=yy,uid=zz,gid=users /mnt/ltnas05:30
kolteqhello guys05:32
kolteqany ideas on how to configure samba easily05:32
titanium17does anyone else have a problem with 'suspend' on a laptop? If I lock my laptop, I am unable to start it back up without doing a hard restart. On Ubuntu gnome05:34
titanium17if i lock and close my laptop*05:34
tripelbI go off and instead of the usual sign in with my user name I get a different Signin box, no user name and the too right of the screen says light box DM. (14.04 kubuntu gnome-classic) thanks for help.05:36
bobdobbsI've recently switched from gnome to KDE. A lot of headaches went away straight away. But now I'm looking for a quick way to cycle between apps running with their windows minimized. ALT+Tab cycling has a side-effect that I don't like.05:38
bobdobbsIs here a mac-like taskbar for KDE that I can run while working with two monitors?05:39
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xanguaTask bar? You mean dock?05:43
bobdobbsyeah. that sounds right05:44
bobdobbsI just had a play with docky, but I can't control which monitor it runs on. By default it runs on the monitor on which I don't it to run.05:45
kisukecan any one point me in the right direction for how the bootloader is setup on intel macs? managed to nuke my bootloader, and need to restore it. google is full of only semirelevant fluff. TIA05:50
alwanR.I.P Ian Murdock, the founder of Debian Linux05:51
alwan<bobdobbs> how about Ubuntu's default desktop, Unity05:52
alwanit has great launcher very similar to OS X's dock05:53
bobdobbsalwan: I've had too many issues with unity, I'm afraid.05:54
hack_Hey, seems that every so often (seemingly at random times, my screen blacks out for half a second and then reappears as tho nothing had happened05:54
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alwanwhat issue? <bobdobbs>05:55
alwansince 14.04, I feel pretty satisfied with Ubuntu Unity05:55
bobdobbsalwan: whenever I install linux on a machine with an nvidia card it takes me months to get some basic stuff st05:55
bobdobbs*sorted05:55
bobdobbsspecifically: no background display at all05:56
bobdobbsI could fix it if I was dedicated enough. But I'm not.05:56
alwan<bobdobbs> did you install the nvidia driver ?05:56
bobdobbsI've tried all kinds of combinations of drivers and settings. In the end I'd just rather get on with my shizz.05:56
hack_how can I figure out what is causing the screen to momentarily black out, then reappear as though nothing had happened?  It's getting very annoying05:57
bobdobbsalwan: But also, when I switched from gnome and unity to KDE a few days ago, I discovered that my CPU would stop maxxing out while running chrome and chromium05:57
bobdobbsI don't know why. But I like it.05:57
alwanYes, KDE is very similar, even a copycat of Windows 705:58
bobdobbsas long as it works I'm cool with that05:58
kisukemac reinstall grub05:59
kisukewrong window...05:59
hack_hello?  Are there specific log files I should look at?  What should I be looking for?06:00
bobdobbsthe only thing I don't like is the docking behaviour: it's hard for me to rediscover a browser window without pulling them all up... and then they persist on the desktop. but to me, the tradeoff is worth it.06:00
hack_can't even find a shred of information about this kind of behavior on google06:02
bobdobbsdamn. docky kinda sucked. it leaves artifacts on the screen that can't be removed06:15
bobdobbsI'll try cairo dock06:15
alwancairo dock is great06:17
leo_hi?06:17
alwanbut I never use multiple monitor :D06:17
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bobdobbsheh. I've installed it. but I can't find the command to start it06:18
nicomachuscairo-dock06:18
bobdobbsaha. that does it :)06:18
bobdobbsthanks06:18
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bobdobbshey, it does look nice!06:20
bobdobbsyeah. I'm liking it06:21
bobdobbsnicomachus: thank!06:21
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Jonii^Hello06:31
Jonii^My laptop shuts off keyboard when my screen has rotated beyond 190 degrees. I'd like to use this information, keyboard not active, as a test for how much the screen has rotated, but I can't seem to find any way to probe keyboard status06:32
Jonii^Xinput doesn't seem to do much06:32
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sam_yan_Hi ,I install  lsb-base,but  it tell me it will break upstart(<<1.12.1-0ubuntu8).What does it mean ?06:34
alwan<sam_yan_> it means lsb-base conflict with upstart06:36
alwanhow do you install lsb-base ?06:36
alwanusing apt-get or .deb installer?06:36
sam_yan_I install systemd06:36
sam_yan_so what should I do ? upgrade the upstart ?06:37
alwanoh yes.. systemd and upstart couldn't be coexist06:37
sam_yan_but ubuntu 15.04 also install upstart06:37
alwanno.. you must choose : systemd or upstart06:37
alwanwhich version you'are using now?06:38
alwan15.10?06:38
sam_yan_15.0406:38
alwanyes.. it seems you have to choose06:38
alwanif you install systemd, the upstart will automatically be removed06:39
sam_yan_ok .but ubuntu's upstart is 1.13.2 . that is the way ubuntu to deal with  the breaks  of lsb-base?06:40
alwanyes06:42
alwanit seems lsb-base conflicts with any version of upstart06:42
alwanit's easier to upgrade to 15.1006:43
alwanas my experience, 15.10 is better06:43
sam_yan_ok.so when I switch to upstart.I do no need to install a other lsb-base ?06:43
Jonii^Oh, and, how come lsusb doesn't work with grep? :/06:47
Jonii^lsusb -v | grep keyword doesn't work06:47
Jonii^I don't understand why06:47
harishkrupohow to undelete files in ubuntu?06:48
harishkrupoext4 file system06:49
alwanthere is no way <harishkrupo>06:50
alwanafaik06:51
harishkrupono previously people in the irc suggested me an option and it worked06:51
harishkrupoit just dont remember the program name06:51
alwanI found this06:51
alwanhttp://extundelete.sourceforge.net/06:51
alwangood luck :D06:51
harishkrupono it was not extundelete06:52
lotuspsychjeharishkrupo: photorec?06:54
harishkrupoyup thankyou06:55
lotuspsychje!info testdisk | harishkrupo sudo photorec after install06:56
ubottuharishkrupo sudo photorec after install: testdisk (source: testdisk): Partition scanner and disk recovery tool, and PhotoRec file recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.14-3build2 (wily), package size 343 kB, installed size 1382 kB06:56
alwanit really worked <harishkrupo> ?06:58
alwanI meant deleted file with Shift+Del could be restored?06:58
harishkrupoyeah photorec works06:59
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harishkrupodoesn't work all the time but it works07:00
lotuspsychjeharishkrupo: if photorec acnat get data back, data is gone07:01
BasarHELP07:01
Jonii^Okay, I found my keyboard finally from /proc/bus/input/devices07:02
Jonii^Can I now use information there to somehow check if my keyboard is on or off?07:02
BasarI participated in Google Code in. 2015 and did one task,but the mentor is not revising it has been 24 hours since I uploaded.The mentor is Tim Lunn Inoki07:03
* Basar slaps yohnnyjoe around a bit with a large fishbot07:03
* Basar slaps webbyz around a bit with a large fishbot07:04
* Basar slaps Speed` around a bit with a large fishbot07:04
rwwBasar: #ubuntu is a technical support channel for Ubuntu. We don't handle Google Code In, and please don't fishbot the channel :)07:04
harishkrupoJonii^, use xev to test your keyboard07:04
harishkrupo!xev | Jonii^07:04
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Jonii^harishkrupo: I don't see how it helps07:06
Jonii^Just to make sure, I know when keyboard is on or off. The problem is automating a process07:06
harishkrupoJonii^, oh ok07:06
Jonii^I need my program to somehow be able to figure out when a keyboard is on or off... But if that's problematic, I'm also curious to hear if there are other ways physical device broadcasts stuff other than acpi signals :307:08
harishkrupoJonii^, i didn't know one could turn off the keyboard07:08
harishkrupoJonii^, you mean detect the presence of the keyboard?07:09
Jonii^harishkrupo: I have Lenovo Yoga, it automatically turns off the keyboard when screen is rotated beyond 190 degrees07:09
harishkrupoJonii^, oh i see07:09
Jonii^There are acpi signals sent whenever screen is rotated to some position, but the problem is, it's always the exact same acpi signal07:09
Jonii^So I need to use keyboard status to figure out where it's rotating07:10
Jonii^Either that, or I need to figure out some other way to distinguish between rotation statuses, but at least at first I thought it would be the easiest to just somehow poll the keyboard and see if it works07:11
Jonii^But I can't find anything that would enable me to see if keyboard is active or not :(07:11
AndChat27729Radio Check - can anybody see me here on #ubuntu?07:18
lotuspsychjeAndChat27729: 1700 users can07:22
AndChat27729Nearly all of the traffic here are joins and quits - any way to get rid of them?07:28
mattslAnyone willing to help me try to fix a boot issue? I have my OS on a RAID 10 array and it seems an Ubuntu update didn't work properly.07:31
jaawerthso uh, is it my imagination or do the ntfs drivers have terrible performance? Or am I Doing It Wrong? I just ran ncdu from /, and when it was running in the ntfs partition CPU for mount.ntfs was at 60% and ncdu was at 30%07:33
somsipjaawerth: you're right - I understand they have a lot of overhead that's heavy on CPU07:33
jaawerthdid a little research and tried enabling big_writes, but since this is read operations doing it that probably won't cut it, I imagine. Wondering if this is a Thing07:33
jaawerthhuh. well, good thing I haven't encrypted it yet then07:34
jaawerthI can only imagine what bitlocker would have done to the poor thing!07:35
dexte827hello im newbie on ubuntu07:49
dexte827its awesome07:49
dexte827can some one teach me something07:49
ZAKhananyone has experiance with macbooks .. my trackpa d response is not smooth at all07:50
somsipdexte827: what do you need to do?07:50
somsip!mac | ZAKhan07:50
ubottuZAKhan: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages07:50
noflagdexte827: like what07:51
dexte827somsip my graphic driver is not good i cant see the full screen when i connect my computer to my lcd screen07:51
somsipdexte827: not my forte - maybe someone else can help07:51
dexte827thanks07:51
noflagdid you try using a propritary driver in the driver-picket07:52
noflagpicker07:52
dexte827im new on ubuntu i dont know how to use it07:53
DF3D2I have a server running 15.04 any real benefit to upgrading to 15.10 ?07:53
lotuspsychjeDF3D2: its not very reccomended to use server on non-lts07:55
lotuspsychjeDF3D2: unless you happy upgrading every 9 months every time?07:55
jaawerthunless it's just a toy server07:56
jaawerthpersonal use, etc07:56
lotuspsychjejaawerth: indeed07:56
DF3D2yes this is a home server07:56
DF3D2I always use LTS for all my data center stuff07:56
lotuspsychjedexte827: ubuntu version? graphics card chipset? driver active?07:56
dexte827ok 1 minute07:57
lotuspsychjeDF3D2: the choice of your ubuntu version, really depends on what you need07:57
lotuspsychjeDF3D2: your the master of your machine :p07:57
dexte827ubuntu 12.04 shipset Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x30007:58
bit-zhey07:58
lotuspsychjedexte827: you could tryout 14.04.3 perhaps alot of good things happened07:59
dexte827i can even not change the resolution of the screen07:59
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dexte827so if i upgrade my version did my files will be erase?08:00
lotuspsychjedexte827: no, it will keep your /home08:00
dexte827good news08:00
dexte827thanks08:00
lotuspsychjedexte827: but that doesnt mean backups are not reccomended08:00
bit-zi need help... i am new to ubuntu i cant connect my windows phone it shows some mtp error. i am using ubuntu mate 15.1008:00
dexte827ok08:00
lotuspsychjedexte827: what will you do when upgrade process fails somehow08:01
lotuspsychjedexte827: lesson nr1 always make backups :p08:01
dexte827i will connect the hard drive to windows on  another pc08:01
dexte827there is to much staff to backup08:02
lotuspsychjedexte827: external hd's are cheap these days, buy one for backup storage08:02
dexte827thanks for advise08:02
lotuspsychjedexte827: ok good luck08:02
dexte827bye08:02
lotuspsychje!upgrade | dexte82708:02
ubottudexte827: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade08:02
DF3D2http://paste.ubuntu.com/14307964/08:05
DF3D2^ why do I have no output on boot ?08:06
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m712Hello, how can I butn an ISO file to a flash drive?08:12
lotuspsychje!usb | m71208:13
ubottum712: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent08:13
rwwanother possible answer: depends on the ISO08:13
m712lotuspsychje> I am trying to burn ArchLinux ISO to my USB stick, so I am looking for a package solution. :)08:14
lotuspsychjem712: multisystem is nice08:15
lotuspsychjem712: drag n drop your wanted iso08:16
m712lotuspsychje> Do you know anything in apt that could do it?08:16
lotuspsychjem712: unetbootin or dd08:16
m712lotuspsychje> Thank you.08:16
m712Fingers crossed, I hope I don't nuke my flash drive. :)08:20
NightKhaosHi there, I'm trying to get my Ubuntu Server (14.04) using netatalk to present a share for Time Machine to connect to, but I can't get the Mac in question to connect to the share because it is telling me there are "no shares to connect too"08:25
mintrixhi08:44
lotuspsychjemintrix: welcome, what can we do for you?08:45
mintrixlotuspsychje: how can I install ubuntu software center?08:45
lotuspsychjemintrix: wich ubuntu version are you on?08:46
Guest5543Is anyone else experiencing random lockups while using Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (x64)? I have a fresh installation with minimal changes (second fresh install) and Unity keeps locking up a random times. I can still hear music in the background and such, but the only way to recover is a hard reboot.08:46
mintrixubuntu mate08:46
lotuspsychjemintrix: mate has its own software i think, ask in #ubuntu-mate08:46
Guest5543I think it is also important to note that I never had any issues at all with Windows, Debian, or any other distribution. However, both Ubuntu and Xubuntu both seem to be unstable for me.08:46
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: wich versions did you try08:47
mintrixlotuspsychje: okay, thanks08:47
Guest5543lotuspsychje: Ubuntu 14.04.3LTS (x64) and Xubuntu 14.04.3LTS are the versions I have tried.08:47
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Guest5543Xubuntu would draw giant black boxes in the middle of the screen and crap out. Ubuntu simply freezes.08:48
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: can you define unstable?08:48
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: what kind of graphics card do you have?08:48
Guest5543nVidia GTX 760. I have tested both distributions using both the open-source drivers and the proprietary driver.08:49
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: wich driver your on exactly (version)?08:49
Guest5543I am using the open-source xorg driver right now. It seems to have great support for the GTX 760 series. It is also the same driver I use on Debian 8 with no issues.08:50
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: did you have nvidia-352 ?08:50
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Guest5543When I used the closed-source driver it was: version 352.63 from nvidia-352 (proprietary, tested)08:51
tripelbI go off and instead of the usual sign in with my user name I get a different Signin box, no user name and the too right of the screen says light box DM. (14.04 kubuntu gnome-classic) thanks for help. Repeat, hour later. What is this? Why password not work.08:51
Phreya/wc/08:51
Phreyawc/08:51
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: id reccomend lower verion try like 340, we had some issue on the 352 lately08:51
Guest5543lotuspsychje: Are there also issues with the open-source driver Ubuntu uses by default? That is the driver I would like to use if possible, but I can try an older version of the proprietary driver if it might solve my stability issue.08:53
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: really all depends on ubuntu version and card,...try out until you find something stable08:53
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: try every version in your additional drivers list08:54
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: also make sure your connected to internet and enable updates during setup when you install ubuntu08:55
Guest5543I did. I made sure to install all updates as soon as the installation finished.08:56
lotuspsychjeGuest5543: ok, if you see then 352 is enabled, try a lower version08:57
Guest5543I originally had an issue where minimizing a program would cause Unity to freeze until I hit alt+tab enough times to recover it. That issue was resolved by reinstalling Ubuntu, but now Unity randomly freezes while using Chromium (probably other programs too)08:57
jebladI'm trying to get a backup going through deja-dup, and it starts, goes for a while, and then the whole machine dies09:00
jebladIts a bit annoying..09:00
jebladThis is on a 15.04. I've been checking the logs, but can't find anything useful. It seems to be truncated, which is not a big surprise as the machine dies very hard.09:02
jebladThere was a problem with an ol' version of python, and 'pip freeze' did just that, froze and died09:03
alwan15.04 is so much buggy <jeblad>09:08
alwan15.10 is better09:08
jebladWell, it is this issue with backup..09:09
mcphailjeblad: are you 100% confident about your hardware? Have you checked your RAM, disks, PSU, cooling, cables (especially 24 pin ATX)?09:13
sardiorI have an AMD/ATI display and the resolution went from 1366x768 to 1024x768 and there is no option to return it to the correct setting in the setting for display.09:13
mcphailjeblad: last tim I had problems like this, I found (after much frustration) the 24pin was not seated correctly, causing the system to hard-crash when the disks were loaded09:14
ogra_jeblad, it is most likely not an issue with the backup tool .... no software should be able to kill your system, your issue lies most likely deeper down in the stack, deja-dup triggering it is just a side effect09:14
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ogra_(check syslog and kern.log for errors ... also ~/.xsession-errors might be interesting)09:15
jebladmcphail: the box has worked for a very long time, and nothing has been done to it since the last backup09:15
mcphailjeblad: I thought you said you had previous problems with Pip causing crashes?09:16
jebladmcphail: last 24 hours it has died 5 times, all times after starting a backup run from deja-dup09:16
mcphailjeblad: definitely time to check temperatures and hardware, if nothing in logs09:16
jebladNo, found that there was a report on a similar problem where pip freeze had triggered a crash like this09:17
lisbethI'm in ubuntu server and I'm curious about inventing keybind controlls09:22
lisbethmaybe wrong channel to ask, but it's for preparing for admin tasks09:22
Guest5543lotuspsychje: I tried installing the 340 drivers as you suggested. I have not yet experienced a freeze, but only time will tell. Right now I am running the system test that comes with Ubuntu and I selected all of the automated tests. My system has been running under 100% load (while I am still doing random tasks) for a while now and it has yet to freeze.09:24
Guest5543So, I am hoping moving from the open-source driver to the 340 proprietary driver will solve my issue.09:24
landoceanskyhi09:27
landoceanskyi added gnome-terminal command to the end of ~/.profile(i want to auto run this command after i login my ubunut), when i restart and login, os display a terminal window with openGL error09:29
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stephanelandoceansky: use gnome-session-properties command. ~/.profile is probably parsed too early during the boot process in order to launch a X app.09:35
Ben64landoceansky: what do you actually want to run at start09:35
stephaneBen64: gnome-terminal09:36
Ben64you're not landoceansky09:36
landoceanskyi want open a terminal and run my own script09:37
Ben64what does the script do09:37
landoceanskyjust like installing some tool like gcc vim ...09:38
Ben64that doesn't make sense09:38
olipHello.09:39
olipHow do you enter BIOS for in Lenovo e450?09:39
Ben64olip: check the manual, or maybe ask ##hardware ... this is an Ubuntu support channel09:39
eclectichedgehogolip: try pressing enter key a few time after a restart if its a laptop09:40
VanathorWhich version of Ubuntu has the best ratio of long term support and stability compared to features available?09:40
eclectichedgehogVanathor: 14.1009:41
Ben64Vanathor: LTS (Long Term Support) versions are released every two years. the current one is 14.04, the next one is 16.04, releasing in April 201609:41
Ben64eclectichedgehog: no09:41
eclectichedgehog14.04 sorry09:41
eclectichedgehogBen64, tired09:42
VanathorDoes anyone know the best way to treat a hard drive to treat two separate drives as a single system? Because I rent a server from hetzner that won't let me access all my space, and I found this guide here09:43
Vanathorhttps://hazan.me/hetzner-setting-up-lvm/09:43
Vanathorto not much success09:43
VanathorI keep seeing "root@Ubuntu-1404-trusty-64-minimal ~ # pvcreate /dev/sdb1    Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively." towards the last step, saying its a mounted file system.09:44
VanathorBut I don't know how to fix it09:44
stephaneVanathor: /dev/sdb1 is probably already in use/mounted. Check first with the mount command09:45
eclectichedgehogstephane: i'd agree with that09:46
maddawg2so i was told to come back when i get my "system program problem detected" message. I was suppose to provide a link to the log... but i am unable to find the log... where should i be looking for the log?09:47
Ben64maddawg2: click it09:48
maddawg2click what?09:48
maddawg2al i have is report problem and cancel09:48
Ben64yes report problem09:48
maddawg2done this a bunch there is no error tho... it asks for password,09:49
maddawg2i enter it09:49
maddawg2and then it sends a report without letting me see09:50
Ben64no09:50
Ben64it brings up a dialog with info09:50
maddawg2well it doesnt09:50
maddawg2it never has09:50
maddawg2there is nothing visible now09:50
maddawg2i clicked authenticate09:50
maddawg2the window closed09:50
maddawg2nothing after that09:51
maddawg2this is the 3rd fresh install i've done09:51
maddawg2on 2 different machines09:51
maddawg2sigh... my bad09:52
Ben64maddawg2: if theres anything in /var/crash, pastebin the latest one09:52
olipHow many hours should I charge my laptop when I first buy it.09:53
Vanathorstephane: if that is the case, what would you recommend? What would be my next step?09:53
Ben64olip: again, not an ubuntu question, ask hardware questions in ##hardware09:53
maddawg2olip, depends09:53
maddawg2every laptop is different09:53
maddawg2lol09:53
maddawg2its like asking "how much gas should I put in my car to fill it"  it entirely depends09:54
olipmaddawg2: for Thinkpad?09:55
Ben64olip: ask hardware questions in ##hardware09:55
mcphailolip: please stop. Ben64 has already directed you to a more appropriate channel09:56
maddawg2listen to them09:56
olipOkay.09:56
maddawg2sheesh09:56
stephaneVanathor: well, lvm is definitely a good choice in order to aggregate 'physical' volumes. First, /dev/sdb1 is a partition, not a raw device. Second, it is already mounted. You should first backup then remove the data on it and then create a volume group using /dev/sdb and the other physical volume you have.09:59
Vanathorno data to back up09:59
Vanathorits a new device09:59
Vanathorhow do you go about creating a new volume group?10:00
stephaneVanathor: What's the output of the mount command ?10:00
VanathorDon't know off hand. I'm working 'second party' to help someone else, the friend I mentioned10:00
Vanathorthat is just the bit10:00
Vanathorwhere he got stuck10:01
Vanathorhe is doing this for me.10:01
Vanathoras I am linux-ubuntu illiterate10:01
Ben64why do the partitions/drives need to be combined anyway?10:01
bsdunix?10:01
eclectichedgehogVanathor: tell them to create a job with the provider10:02
VanathorFor some reason in the initial install, it wasn't letting me use the full storage of the hard drives. I was only able to use like two terabytes of space out of the six tbs available10:02
Vanathoreclecticedgehog: its unmanaged10:02
Ben64Vanathor: are you sure it has 610:02
VanathorYes.10:02
VanathorTwo three terabyte hard drives.10:03
Ben64show me10:03
eclectichedgehogVanathor: unmanaged means you have to do it, but it sometimes doesn't help to ask them10:03
stephaneVanathor: hdd already used before. Partitions on it. Automatically mounted in ubuntu10:03
VanathorBen64: This is my server from the robot page10:04
Vanathorhttp://imgur.com/DalUP3610:04
lisbethIs there a command line ZNC server available in the ubuntu repos?10:05
lisbethZNC is a server that acts as a proxy to irc so you are always logged in10:05
Ben64Vanathor: did you install ubuntu?10:06
VanathorYes.10:06
Ben64you should reinstall10:06
VanathorUbuntu 14.0410:06
Vanathorany particular reason?10:06
bsdunixwhat filesystem were the drives previously formatted in10:07
Ben64Vanathor: so you can set it up properly10:07
alwannot yet <lisbeth>10:07
alwaneven the ubuntu ppa10:07
Ben64lisbeth: have you tried "znc"10:08
Vanathor <bsdunix> what filesystem were the drives previously formatted in // Ubuntu 15.1010:08
Ben64Vanathor: you just need to reinstall, choose lvm and make sure it uses all the available space10:08
VanathorWill give it a shot. Thank you for your help10:09
mcphailVanathor: make sure you are not using an MBR partition table if you want to create a very large partition10:10
bsdunixext4 can do exabytes, right? - I'm worried LVM may be cornfusing or buggy or not well guided...10:10
Vanathorhow do I determine that Mcphail?10:11
mcphailVanathor: your partitioning tool of choice should tell you. Use GPT if possible10:12
mcphailVanathor: sometime MBR is labelled as "DOS partitioning" or similar. Not designed for multi-terabyte partitions10:13
bsdunixlisbeth: instead of asking US if there's a "znc" in repos, try instead "sudo aptitude search znc" - it's there10:13
VanathorDoes anyone know of any services that can facilitate short term (not more then an hour) of hired work? Because while I will continue to try and get it to do it myself, I may end up breaking down and just hire someone. If the price is reasonable, and service expedient10:14
Vanathorwebsite, etc10:14
bsdunixVanathor: I contract work my skills through workmarket.com10:15
Ben64Vanathor: this channel is free10:15
Vanathorbsdunix: what is your going rate for an hour long job? Ben64: I am referring to contract work, not just consulting10:15
bsdunixMany techs across the U.S. and elsewhere probably - get work in their area through that platform10:16
Oszhow do i list all the installed program on my server and delete some permanent ?10:16
Ben64Vanathor: honestly you shouldn't have a server if you're unwilling to learn things10:16
Ben64Osz: "dpkg -l" will show all the installed packages10:16
bsdunixVanathor: someone would have to be local to you, workmarket.com can head-hunt them and send them. usually $65 to $135/hr10:17
Oszeverytime i try to rebook it will stack on "*Clearing ebtables rulesets" why?10:17
VanathorBen64: I'm just trying to set up a media storage locker for myself, as a 'cloud'. I'm not interested in ubuntu or linux beyond having it as an underlying framework for that. Once initial setup is done I am pretty much going to be leaving it alone.10:18
bsdunixBen64: I agree. I had to learn in an atmosphere that had ZERO tolerance for unwillingness to learn and google and exhaust all effort prior to making my problem someone else's10:18
Ben64Vanathor: bad idea. you need to keep up with security updates and other things10:18
eclectichedgehogbsdunix: are you an isis admin :)10:19
VanathorBen64: Nothing on it would have info worth stealing, as none of it is sensitive in that manner. When I said 'set and forget' I mean it10:19
Ben64Vanathor: who said anything about stealing. they could get into your server and use it to commit crimes10:19
Ben64Vanathor: if you want a hands off cloud service, get that. don't use a server you have no intention of taking responsibility of10:20
Vanathorits rented from hetzner. If it came to that, their own data specialists would notice their hardware was being co-opted for a botnet or something similar10:21
Ben64depending on the contract or whatever, you could be held liable for whatever happens on that server, but obviously you don't care at all10:22
bsdunixWe had 42 servers broken into from some nice guy in indonesia. he wanted bandwidth. we had commercial grade firewalls, ipsec tunnels, all kinds of 30+ yrs experienced sysadmins watchdogging it, snort...he still got in.10:22
eclectichedgehogbsdunix: always expect the unexpected10:22
IoyrieVanathor: as long as you don't mind the potential criminal legal troubles you can get into, you are fine =)10:22
VanathorIts an EU hosted server, and I am an american. The chance of it legally coming back to bite me are nill10:23
eclectichedgehogVanathor: most if not all eu countries have some agreement with us over copyright etc10:24
mcphailPerhaps we are wandering a little OT here?10:24
Ben64mcphail: very10:24
bsdunixthe point is; this is a place to help and learn about things ubuntu10:25
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eclectichedgehogif no one asks questions then its a dull chatroom10:25
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Ioyrievery...10:26
VanathorSure. I'm just trying to get something taken care of, terms of specifics. That happens to be Ubuntu, because Windows servers have licencing fees. But I am not trying to grow a twelve inch linux beard :P10:26
haraldk_Anyone here with Ubuntu 15.10, Intel CPU and intel_pstate with sleep/resume? After one sleep/resume cycle CPU frequency is locked at full speed. I wonder if this is only for me or a general bug. I have not yet found where launchpad is to search for existing bugs (as I don't expect me to be the first one to detect this)10:26
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GabrielSOEhello all, does tlp really sabe battery life?10:27
haraldk_Ok, found lauchpad for ubuntu now :)10:27
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mcphailharaldk_: there have been sporadic questions on here about similar things recently. Not sure if anyone has filed a bug yet. I don't have Intel so can't confirm10:27
Ben64Vanathor: then get unlimited cloud storage from amazon, $60 per year, and you don't have to think about things10:28
haraldk_mcphail: Ok, since I finally found lauchpad I'll search for it.10:28
vlad-and-tasyHi guys! :)10:28
bsdunixharaldk_: I once had some dell c6145 servers that fell into sleep states on cpus from inactivity, they ZOMBIED! I couldn't even ssh into them. check your BIOS settings for "C-States" section10:28
VanathorNot what I'm interested in Ben64. I want to own whatever I host on, not have it managed or overlooked by amazon.10:29
Vanathorthanks for the suggestion though.10:29
Ben64Vanathor: yet you don't care if anyone gets into it and takes control of it10:29
lisbethwindow 310:30
VanathorCorrect. I want it as a media hub. Something I can store movie rips and my music collection on, privately. Its not the end of the world if it gets compromised, but I don't want amazon sending me nasty letters from the MIAA because I happen to host a copy of the Hangover Part Nine, Deluxe Edition10:30
Vanathoron it10:30
haraldk_bsdunix: You have the opposite problem of what I have then. Mine run at full tilt after one resume.10:30
Ben64Vanathor: this doesn't seem to be the channel for you then, good luck10:31
mcphailharaldk_: There was someone on yesterday complaining of locked-frequency problems after the last kernel update. Have you had this problem with previous kernels?10:32
haraldk_Found a bug report:  Secondary CPUs switch to "performance" cpufreq following suspend/resume cycle10:33
haraldk_That's exactly what I have. Will report accordingly.10:33
mcphailharaldk_: brilliant. Thanks10:34
haraldk_mcphail: This is the first intel CPU I have for a while.10:34
mcphailharaldk_: I've just scrapped an old i7 920, so don't have anything Intel to test/confirm your bug, unforunately10:35
bsdunixharaldk_: could be exact family of cpu or chipset...i got an old core 2 duo and no issues w/ latest -REALEASE10:35
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* thetekst 10:37
bsdunixharaldk_: did you check the likes of; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226527710:38
IoyrieVanathor: you can still ask the questions to figure things out here, but otherwise, follow bsdunix suggestions if you end up looking for someone to take care of your problems for you.10:39
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VanathorIoyrie: As I said, that is my backup plan if I can't make it to work myself. It will be nice if I can figure it out without having to front cash for others, and so doing it myself is my primary course.  I'm just not interested in mastering a command line forwards and backwards. This is goal-oriented, not long term learning oriented.10:42
haraldk_bsdunix: Did not see that one, but same bug. Solution is a newer kernel it seems or a post-resume script to put all CPUs in powersave again.10:43
haraldk_Either way, it's a known bug, I added my 2 cents to it, and since it's fixed by updating the kernel, it's a solved problem :)10:44
bsdunixharaldk_: I was just gonna suggest inotifywait to trigger that script! ha ha10:46
haraldk_mcphail, bsdunix: Thanks for your support!10:48
bsdunixsorry I butted in, no prob10:49
ArcherGodsonHi, all10:50
hmw2I believe, I need to make Filezilla trust cacert, but I can't find out how to do it. The option TLS, which some tutorial told me to use, does not exist in the settings window.10:51
bsdunixVanathor: whatever you do; make sure you start with the right tool for the job and don't waste effort trying to reinvent the wheel. Sounds like you need something like FreeNAS. a filer that is optimized for that task, has ZFS as well.10:52
hmw2I'd be happily using ANY ftp client for this ftpes connection10:53
Vanathorbsdunix: Huh, thanks for the tip. Will have to look into that :)10:54
hmw2I have tried a lot of things over and over again, and I guess, I am missing some crucial basic knowledge10:54
bsdunixhmw2: have you tried this? https://wiki.filezilla-project.org/FTP_over_TLS10:55
hmw2This only tells me how to remove certificates, but I want to add one!? How do I "tell Filezilla to trust" a server?10:57
bsdunixhmw2: wait a sec...(I know, because I have done this on some W2k8 servers10:57
bsdunixhmw2: It essplains how to set up server and connect client. if you see notes on that page about gotcha's...and you did as it instructs and still have this issue, is mystery11:01
hmw2I do not set up a server, I just want to be client and access my home page11:01
hmw2the owner is unreachable (for 4 years now) and I am really, really frustrated11:02
hmw2It ends at "GnuTLS error -12: A TLS fatal alert has been received." and I believe, there might be an old certificate. An earlier Version of Filezilla allowed me to ignore this, but they removed this option. Now I got a tip, that I need to trust cacert. How? I am clueless about krypto. Where do I start? Where to put the cerfificate files?11:03
bsdunixhmw2: is the client you are trying to use the latest FileZilla client and the old one completely stripped out, old certs flushed?11:03
telboonanyone managed to align Desktop icons to grid on Ubuntu?11:04
hmw2i have had the problem for YEARS now11:04
hmw2so I tried different OSes, other FTP clients, etc.11:04
hmw2And I lost that Windows partition which had the old FileZilla11:04
bsdunixhmw2: In order to remove a saved certificate rename or modify the file ~/.config/filezilla/trustedcerts.xml.11:05
bsdunixPlease note that older FileZilla versions used ~/.filezilla/trustedcerts.xml.11:05
hmw2how do I *ADD* a certificate?11:05
bsdunixso...that's whar she goes11:05
bsdunixoh! copy and paste!11:05
hmw2Where to=11:05
bsdunix/home/.config - it's a hidden directory11:06
bsdunixthat's what the dot is...but if you're using filezilla, then just check that path11:06
bsdunixhmw2: I would copy old cert from ~/.filezilla/trustedcerts.xml and paste it into ~/.config/filezilla/11:08
hmw2i have no old cert at all11:08
hmw2fresh install11:08
hmw2Is this right: I have to point FileZilla to the public key of the web server, right?11:09
hmw2This should be the certificate, I have been told to "trust": http://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=311:09
bsdunixdon't think you do that. I think all you need to do is try to connect to server at address FTPES://servernamehere...11:10
hmw2If this is correct, then I am finally screwed. I have had the guys from my local hackerspace try it, nobody could do it.11:11
hmw2I want to fix my homepage *sniff*11:11
bsdunixonce you attempt to connect with fresh client install, it will prompt for you to trust the cert11:11
hmw2:q11:11
bsdunixhmw2: maybe 4 years ago, someone specified the IP's allowed to connect in a whitelist11:13
bsdunixhmw2: does the whois database lookup at dnsstuff give the host's contact info?11:14
flux242hi, which daemon manages power on ubuntu? i'm on xubuntu here we have xfce4-power-manager11:14
hmw2Hmm. I am currently trying again to contact this person (I knew him personally some years ago, contact went silent). Perhaps I can get hold of him this time, it is just somewhat complicated to get a message through. Guess I will have to see it through. He will lough at me, because I've been programming since 84. I am so embarrassed!11:15
hmw2Thanks for your time, though11:16
bsdunixhmw2: thank YOU11:16
hmw2Erm... ok... but for what?11:17
bsdunixflux242: UPower Daemon11:17
bsdunixhmw2: for reminding me why I hate computers11:18
hmw2LOL I see. I only like 8bit computers. Those are also the only ones to be trusted in these times.11:19
flux242bsdunix: what else?11:20
flux242bsdunix: upowerd just emmits dbus messages11:20
bsdunixi see...11:21
flux242well actually i just wanted to ask if power management is completely borked on ubutu too since 15.04?11:22
flux242like it is on xubuntu 15.1011:22
bsdunixflux242: are you seeing cpu at 100% from sleep resume?11:23
bsdunixflux242: is THAT the issue?11:23
fiterHi. I'm new ubuntu-user11:23
flux242they switched to systemd and pm-utils were no longer active. upowerd do not handle on-battery events any longer and do not call pm-powersave11:24
flux242it's completely broken11:24
showazatop not rotate ubuntu ?11:24
showazdu -sh /var/log/atop 33M(RAW)11:24
flux242and the systemd does not handle on-battery events too.11:28
bsdunix...and another satisfied customer!11:28
bsdunixflux242: I've been running this same xubuntu install for four years or so now. the 15 years or so prior to that, I's jump from FreeBSD to Suse to Redhat to Arch to ...every month11:30
eclectichedgehogbsdunix: satisfied, we get them?11:30
flux242bsdunix: so?11:31
MonkeyDustbsdunix  a distro hopper?11:31
flux242how does it related to the problem described?11:32
bsdunixflux242: it says much for this distro. It's all I could have ever asked for - I think it's a fine bit o stuff11:32
eclectichedgehogbsdunix: xfce is the winning factor11:32
bsdunixoh, I was speaking to the issue of unsatisfied people dumping on xubuntu for a temporary quirk11:33
flux242bsdunix: what does? I do not follow. Even if I would use arch with xfce on top there still be problem with the power managemen11:33
flux242unless they patched the xfce4-power-manager of course11:34
bsdunixoh, so..it's a conflict of interests at the xfce camp! I see11:34
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bsdunixI be on a workstation and didn't even notice the issue, I stay at 100% and disabled power management11:35
showazintel power management?11:38
bsdunixshowaz: I don't know if xfce power manager and intel sleep states issue is connected, but it seems so11:39
flux242no, its all user space11:40
bsdunixi just fired up my power manager and am digging in a little deeper to see if I can replicate the issue11:40
showazbsdunix:  ubuntu 15.10 kernel 4.2 fixed them11:40
cyberfreak_hello !11:41
cyberfreak_i am new to IRC11:42
flux242it's either everybody are still using 14.04 lts which is smart or people just do not care much about battery life11:43
cyberfreak_hehe! i guess i am the smart one11:43
cyberfreak_using 14.04 lts11:43
showazflux242: 14.04 "bug by design" :)11:43
showazkernel 4.2 / 4.1 many intel cpu fixes11:43
showazcpu/apci latency power managment11:44
bsdunixha ha. the only issue I am bothered with is my CLI is spammed about fontconfig crap I aint never been able to iron out on my own11:44
flux242bsdunix: they kicked me off from here for the cr.. word11:45
bsdunixoh! my bad. so sorry11:45
flux242bastards11:45
bsdunixha ha11:45
bsdunixwell. good intentions, at least11:46
cyberfreak_hey any good opnions tools for networking11:47
MonkeyDustcyberfreak_  what do you want to do11:47
cyberfreak_just network bypassing11:48
bsdunixa used firewall appliance. dumpcap. wireshark. a TOE NIC. learn about snmp and walkin' the MIBS11:48
MonkeyDustcyberfreak_  start from the beginning, what brings you here11:49
cyberfreak_simple stuff like wifi passwords11:49
bsdunixa vpn?11:49
bsdunixaircrack-ng11:49
cyberfreak_@monkeydust just new to irc11:49
cyberfreak_so i came to say "hi"11:49
bsdunixcyberfreak_: "hi" - there. now wwe got that part out of the way. whew!11:50
MonkeyDustcyberfreak_  this is the support channel, 'hi' and chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic11:50
cyberfreak_lol sorry11:51
bsdunixwell!11:51
cyberfreak_so talking of support , can someone help me to remove my windows os from my harddisk . i am dualbooting between ubuntu and windows11:52
bsdunixhey cyberfreak_ have you checked out irssi yet?11:52
cyberfreak_so i want to remove windows11:52
cyberfreak_no @bsdunix11:52
bsdunixcyberfreak_: yes. I just did that. one question first; is your linux partition after the windows partition?11:53
cyberfreak_yes i installed linux after my windows11:54
bsdunixcyberfreak_: install and call up gparted11:54
bsdunixremove windows partition after you save all important stuffs11:55
cyberfreak_after the instalation i can directly remove windows11:55
cyberfreak_nothing else needed to do ?11:55
bsdunixyou will have to FIGHT to expand your existing linux partition start to the beginning of the disk11:56
bsdunixGRUB points to the sector at beginning of present linux partition.11:56
bsdunixyou will have to rewrite that grub entry11:56
bsdunixeasiest way to do that is to use a live cd of your distro11:57
cyberfreak_ok11:57
bsdunixboot to that cd. act as though you are doing a new install then a repair or migrate option comes up11:58
showazcyberfreak_:  strongswan (ipsec)11:59
bsdunixoh my11:59
bsdunixthere aint enough ritalin or adderall in this world to keep these kids on-task for 10 minutes12:01
Jonii^Is there a way to change, from terminal, sizes of Unity launcher icons12:02
MonkeyDustJonii^  dconf-editor is a gui to make changes, but you can use it via cli too12:03
ioriaJonii^, can't use unity-tweak-tool ?12:05
dbuggerHi fellas12:10
dbuggerI have this server where apparently I cant log in with password, and I am not sure how to change that... This is the sshd_config configuration: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14309778/ Did I miss something?12:11
MonkeyDustdbugger  tip: there's also #ubuntu-server12:11
dbuggerMonkeyDust, Ill take a look, thanks!12:11
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bsdunixdbugger: do NOT permit root login. ever.12:14
dbuggerbsdunix, I agree. But to set another user... first I need to be able to log in as the root12:15
MonkeyDustdbugger  no, use sudo, after you logged in12:17
dbuggerMonkeyDust, I can NOT log in12:17
Jonii^ioria: that seems to just call gui where you can edit settings, i don't see how you can give parameters for that12:17
dbuggerMonkeyDust, I can only use a pseudo terminal through the provider website :P12:17
Jonii^MonkeyDust: uh, documentation seems quite lacking for dconf-editor12:18
dbuggerI want to be able to properly SSH, then set up other users and so on, and then take away root access12:18
MonkeyDustJonii^  yes, i didnt find it either12:18
ioriaJonii^, unity-tweak-tool -> launcher -> icons12:18
mcphaildbugger: Is this Ubuntu? Who gave root a password?12:18
MonkeyDust!root12:18
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo12:18
Jonii^ioria: yeah, you can launch the gui, but I asked for command line solution :/12:19
ioriaJonii^, ok12:19
dbuggermcphail, It is Ubuntu. My server provider has a button "set up new root password"12:19
dbuggerOk, maybe I didnt explain myself properly12:19
dbuggerLet me start again12:19
k1ldbugger: is this a shell hoster?12:19
bsdunixsomeone did this; passwd root12:19
* dafb facedesks12:20
dbuggerI have this server, Digital Ocean. I want to log in the server, but apparently connecting through SSH with password is forbidden. It can only be done with SSH Public key (I think)12:20
dbuggerI want to allow again password logins12:20
ioriaJonii^, http://askubuntu.com/questions/519678/unity-14-04-set-launcher-icon-size-via-command-line12:20
dafbdbugger: why not require a password and a key?12:20
dbuggerdafb, what?12:21
dbuggerIm not following12:21
dbuggerI want to be able to do "ssh dbugger@myserver.com"12:21
dbuggerand just input a password12:21
dbuggerand log in12:21
bgardnerdbugger: What error are you getting when you try?12:21
k1ldbugger: key auth is actually better.12:21
dafbwhats wrong with using a key, all you have to do is point the client at the key...12:21
dbuggerI get nothing12:21
dbuggerk1l, no idea what key auth is12:21
bsdunixJonii^: run ptrace on the PID of dconf-editor and watch what calls the gui makes - then you know what to do in cli12:22
k1ldbugger: its the same, just you dont need to put a password in, but the ssh command is doing "magic" to make sure you are the right guy.12:22
dafbdbugger: imagine remembering a 128 bit long password?12:22
dafbdbugger: well a key does it for you...12:22
dbuggeryeah, well, it is not what I want to achieve now12:23
k1ldbugger: you just need to make a key pair and put the public key onto the server. then ssh will do the auth for you.12:23
dbuggerI want to achieve password login now12:23
bsdunixk1l: pixie dust?12:23
k1ldbugger: you are german, right?12:23
dbuggerk1l, I live there, but im Spanish12:23
k1ldbugger: if you can read german: see this https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/SSH#Authentifizierung-ueber-Public-Keys12:24
dafbdbugger: so do you have access to your server?12:24
dbuggerk1l, that is not what I want to achieve...12:24
dbuggerI have access through a weird terminal, through the website of my provider12:24
dbuggerBut it is annoying as hell12:24
mcphaildbugger: Everyone on the channel is reluctant to give you advice on how to enable password authentication for root over ssh because it is a silly idea, and not the supported Ubuntu way. If you insist on doing this, you may need to switch off PAM authentication. But, really, this is daft.12:24
dafbwhat mcphail said12:25
dbuggermcphail, I have "usePAM yes" in sshd_config12:25
dbuggerisnt that enough?12:25
MonkeyDustdbugger  everyone will tell you the same12:25
* dafb facedesks harder12:25
k1ldbugger: maybe you can add the keys on the webpage somehow? so you dont need to worry about all that.12:26
bgardnerdbugger: What error message do you get if you try to log in with a normal user?12:26
bsdunixpam has had it's share of issues. I hear she got around some12:26
dbuggerbgardner, I get nothing. Just keeps waiting until i CTRL C12:26
mcphaildbugger: as far as I know, the current PAM modules disable root password auth. So you'd want to switch that off if you are skiing off-piste12:26
dbuggerk1l, I cant, because I cant paste12:26
dbuggerAgain. I DO NOT WANT to use keys12:27
k1li would talk to digitalocean in that case.12:27
dbuggerI want to be able to log with password12:27
k1lyou pay them so they need to make it work12:27
bgardnerdbugger: Then you're barking up the wrong tree.  Don't try to get root in, try to diagnose that.  I would change the ssh port and restart the ssh server.12:27
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dbuggerIm not asking for "what is the best practice for...?"12:27
dbuggerI am just asking how to do it12:27
dbuggerI get that is stupid12:27
dbuggerinsecure12:27
dbuggerand so on12:27
dbuggerI just want to know how to do it12:27
MonkeyDustdbugger  and it's not even supposed to be done, it seems12:28
MonkeyDustor to be possible12:28
k1ldbugger: depending on the hoster setup they could habe made sure there is no easy way to shoot yourself in the foot.12:28
k1l*have12:28
dbuggerk1l, All the servers I have in DigitalOcean have that possibility, since creation12:28
dbuggerSo I am sure some configuration has been done to avoid that12:28
BluesKajHiyas all12:28
dbuggerI want to undo that12:28
MonkeyDustdbugger  maybe there's a FAQ or a support forum on your provider's website, where you can find help12:30
bgardnerdbugger: Actually, it sounds like ssh is firewalled.  You may need to 'sudo ufw allow in to any app OpenSSH'.12:30
dbuggerbgardner, let me look12:31
dbuggerbgardner, how can I check if it is firewalled?12:31
ioriasudo ufw status12:31
dbugger"ufw list" or something similar?12:31
dbuggeraha12:31
dbuggerstatus: inactive12:31
bgardnerdbugger: 'sudo ufw status verbose'12:31
dbuggerno ufw12:31
bgardnerdbugger: Hm.  Wonder if your provider blocks 22.  Try moving the port.12:32
bgardnerdbugger: Line 5 of your config file12:32
dbuggerbgardner, to what number? and how do I call the ssh command afterwards?12:33
bgardnerdbugger: The port number is your choice, but put it above 1024.  Try 50000 for the experiment.  Then call ssh -p 50000 user@host12:33
dbuggerok12:34
bgardnerdbugger: Remember to bounce the ssh service, of course.12:34
dbuggeryep12:35
dbuggerNothing...12:37
bgardnerdbugger: Same behavior, just hangs?12:38
dbuggerbgardner, yep12:38
showazmark, zfs ready ubuntu?12:38
bsdunixdbugger: shouldn't a firewall be blocking this new ssh port?12:39
showazbsdunix: port rage security (non-root)12:39
showazsysctl ...12:40
showaz$ sysctl net.ipv4.ip_local_port_range12:40
dbuggerI f***ing hate server administration -__-12:41
eclectichedgehogwe all do12:41
ioriahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/469143/how-to-enable-ssh-root-access-on-ubuntu-14-0412:41
dbuggerI think im giving up until 201612:41
eclectichedgehogits 2016 here12:41
dbuggerWhere?12:41
showazback to future12:41
bgardnerdbugger: Ok.  Looking at Digital Ocean's docs, ssh should work out of the box.12:41
eclectichedgehognew zealand12:41
dbuggerbgardner, yeah, I know12:41
dbuggereclectichedgehog, greetings, future12:42
bgardnerdbugger: Maybe you get tech support from them?  Maybe they can help better.12:42
eclectichedgehogdbugger: 2016 sucks12:42
dbuggerbgardner, I do not know. Maybe. I will try next year12:42
bgardnerdbugger: Okay, good luck!12:42
dbuggerAnyway, thank to #ubuntu. You guys have been very helpful whole 201512:42
bsdunixnew zealand is so beautiful. I'm Jealous. It's grey cold flat and ugly here12:42
AvatarAdbugger, can you tell us the IP of your vps?12:42
dbuggerThanks to all the community, you guys rock12:42
dbuggerWish you all a great 201612:42
dbuggerAvatarA, I would be too ashamed, sorry :P12:43
dbuggerAvatarA, it is in no condition12:43
showazeclectichedgehog: cold war ahead12:43
AvatarAit's not like we're gonna hack it, the botnets are already hard at work on those ssh ports ;)12:43
eclectichedgehoglol AvatarA12:44
eclectichedgehogi was on a vpn today and i kept getting packet retry messages - very spooky12:44
dbuggerAvatarA, maybe some other day ;)12:45
AvatarAwanted to see a nmap of that ip and ssh -v12:45
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showazssh -vvv (3lvl verbose)12:45
Guest1621312345612:45
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ZeroLuxjust had a quick question about Ubuntu Mate 15.10 and the RPi... i know it's designed/optimized for the RPi2 with the quad core but will the image run on an older B+ with 512mb and the single core?12:58
dafbZeroLux: what version of ubuntu?12:58
ubonealoha to all, is there a way to remove the mail icon from xubuntu?12:59
dafb!version12:59
ubottuTo find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »12:59
mcphailZeroLux: as far as I know, it doesn't12:59
* dafb goes back to bed too tired to be doing anything13:01
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ZeroLuxmcphail: ok, thanks for the input13:02
mcphailZeroLux: I don't think the image runs on ARMv613:02
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ZeroLuxyeah. guess it just means i'll have to upgrade then :)13:03
mcphailZeroLux: good excuse :)13:03
ZeroLuxas if i needed one :P13:03
ZeroLuxHappy New Year everyone! i'm out13:04
jim__anybody here?13:06
ubonejim__, no13:09
lotuspsychje!ask | jim__13:09
ubottujim__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:09
uboneX U B U N T U \o/13:10
ubonejim__, what do you need help with?13:10
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jim__有人在吗?13:11
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MonkeyDust!cn13:12
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:12
ubonei see it but i can't read the language13:12
jim__i just say: anybody here? = 有人在吗?13:13
MonkeyDustubone  if you stay here long enoughn you can distinguish a lot of different languages (not understand them, tho)13:13
uboneah, might be a good time to start learning a new language13:13
jim__quit13:15
MonkeyDustubone  start with "有人在吗"13:15
ubonei learned that one13:16
Guest9343tue13:16
Guest9343true13:16
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cyber_freakhey!13:23
Guest66035hi13:23
cyber_freakany kali linux user here ?13:23
lotuspsychje!kali | cyber_freak13:24
ubottucyber_freak: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)13:24
not_bill_gatesI lost my sound, but i have sound off mute in all applications/ any suggestions?13:25
lotuspsychje!sound | not_bill_gates13:26
ubottunot_bill_gates: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.13:26
not_bill_gatesI will look it over thanks13:26
cyber_freakthis is only the support channel is it?13:27
lotuspsychjecyber_freak: this is #ubuntu channel you joined13:27
Guest9343cyber_freak, kali is not ubuntu nor is it supported here13:27
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MonkeyDustnot_bill_gates  in a terminal, can you open   alsamixer13:36
dbuggerHey guys... I figured out why I couldnt connect through SSH...13:36
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bgardnerdbugger: Yes?13:40
dbuggerbgardner, CloudFlare13:42
Sauloback: Sleep [Away: ]13:42
dbuggerCloud-frigging-flare13:42
dbuggerI was trying to ssh cloudflare -_-13:43
dbuggerthe moment I changed "mydomain.com" for "ssh.mydomain.com", it insta-worked -__-13:43
dbuggerBiggest facepalm on December13:43
not_bill_gatesno go on alsa mixer although it is very cool13:48
not_bill_gatesit opened but still no sound13:48
not_bill_gatestook all off mute13:48
MonkeyDustnot_bill_gates  also with headphones?13:50
not_bill_gatesstandby13:51
MonkeyDustmeaning?13:51
not_bill_gatesheadfones work13:52
MonkeyDustnot_bill_gates  ok, the speakers fail, it's a hardware issue, i guess13:53
not_bill_gateshmm...newer machine, i doubt hardware13:54
not_bill_gatesbut anything possible13:54
lotuspsychjenot_bill_gates: how about you go check your syslog, and findout whats happening13:55
not_bill_gateshow open syslog?13:57
bunbury_hi there! Trying to instal spotify via terminal but after successful instalation, not able to launch it even though the icon is present13:58
lotuspsychjenot_bill_gates: the log viewer icon or manually browse /var/log/syslog13:58
borisbunbury_ Try sudo spotify13:59
not_bill_gatesok13:59
bunbury_already tried sudo spotify, sorry forgot to mention that13:59
boris@bunbury_ are you getting an error?14:00
bunbury_@boris_ no errors. Actually nothing happens14:00
lotuspsychjehappy ubuntu new year 2016 to all14:01
not_bill_gateslot to go through14:01
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boris@bunbury_ That's really odd.  Can you do: sudo ls -al /home/user/.dbus/14:06
bunbury_@boris ~$ sudo ls -al /home/user/.dbus/14:11
bunbury_ls: cannot access /home/user/.dbus/: No such file or directory14:11
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jilocasin0morning all14:12
jilocasin0woke up to a major xubuntu foobar and was hoping someone could shed some light.14:12
boris@bunbury_ replace 'user' with your username & try again14:12
bunbury_@boris sorry, a happy new ubuntu user14:14
jilocasin0There are _no_ frames around any native windows, I can open enter and move some 3rd party apps (ex: Chrome / Firefox) but not the taskManager, the Panel Configurator GUI, etc.14:15
repozitorhey, i installed firewall-cmd on my ubutu server, and i only allowed port 80, 43314:15
repozitorbut i dunno why firewall-cmd didn't block 108014:15
bunbury_@boris looked for the problem over the internet and solved it.14:15
bunbury_@boris it was a library14:15
bunbury_@boris Fix Spotify not launching issue:14:15
bunbury_Ubuntu 15.04 misses the libgcrypt11 package in its official repositories, so that Spotify won’t launch and you’ll get below error message if you start it from terminal:14:15
boris@bunbury_ When you log on to Ubuntu use the username for example on my instance i log on with the username of boris so my command is  sudo ls -al /home/boris/.dbus/14:16
repozitori think by default all ports should blocked by itself, otherwise we allow them to be unblocked14:16
bunbury_@boris thanks a lot. Really appretiate your time14:16
k1ljilocasin0: open a terminal, then rename the ".config" folder to something like ".configbackup" then relogin and see if that works again.14:16
MonkeyDustrepozitor  what command did you use?14:16
repozitorservice firewall start14:16
boris@bunbury_ No problem at all - Have a good new year and happy Ubunutuing :D14:17
repozitorand listing ruels show everything is fine.14:17
MonkeyDustrepozitor  try sudo ufw enable14:17
bunbury_@boris same to you14:18
yeatsbunbury_: boris: just FYI, the "@" is not necessary to address someone in IRC14:19
MonkeyDustrepozitor  and sudo ufw status14:19
bunbury_boris thanks14:19
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borisyeats Thanks14:20
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repozitorCommand may disrupt existing ssh connections. Proceed with operation?14:20
repozitoris this meaning, answering yes will block all ssh connections in future?14:20
MonkeyDustrepozitor  yes, careful14:20
repozitorMonkeyDust, so i can't run it14:21
repozitorbecause i can access to my server only throughout ssh connection.14:21
MonkeyDustrepozitor  first make sure the fw is configured thus, that the ssh ip addresses are 'safe'14:21
repozitorMonkeyDust, firewall-cmd --list-all-zones show me ssh port is allowed14:22
ubuntu-matehello. i am new here14:22
MonkeyDustrepozitor  i don't find that particular command here (14.04)14:23
ubuntu-matemz14:23
ubuntu-matey14:23
MonkeyDustrepozitor  what ubuntu is it?14:23
repozitorubuntu serverv, 14.0414:23
ubuntu-matemy english is very bad14:23
k1lubuntu-mate: es gibt auch #ubuntu-de14:23
MonkeyDustrepozitor  tip: there's alos #ubuntu-server14:23
repozitorthanks, buddy14:24
eikon81gDoes anyone currently run a persistent USB with linux regularly? I was thinking about doing this on one of my machines and wanted to see if there were any drawbacks14:25
eikon81g**with Ubuntu rather14:25
eikon81glol14:25
boriseikon81g What kind of USB device are you talking about?14:26
BluesKajeikon81g:  are you afraid of a real installation, or are you hiding your linux prefernces from your boss :-)14:27
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eikon81gNo just ease of use on this machine.. I don't want to wipe it and the side by side install makes me nervous because I don't want to hose my windows install14:28
eikon81gboris, usb 3.014:28
BluesKaj!persistent14:30
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent14:30
eikon81gwhen I ran the installer I didn't get the option to install side by side so I checked the bios settings on this machine and I don't have any sata mode options. I think my windows install is set for ide and not ahci14:30
BluesKajekarlso: ^14:30
BluesKajoops14:30
BluesKajeikon81g:  ^14:31
BluesKajwhich windows ?14:31
eikon81gBluesKaj, ty, I have it running I was just wondering if anyone else has run into dealbreakers with running it persistent on the regular14:31
eikon81gIt's a windows 10 install14:31
BluesKajso you're dealing with UEFI complications14:32
eikon81gI worked with someone earlier this week on the chat that was having dualboot issues and we helped him through it and we determined the issue was that he needed to change his sata mode to achi14:32
eikon81gBluesKaj, it's running fine I am on it now.. I just wanted opinions on if it's a decent long term option and if there were any major drawbacks.14:33
BluesKajnever encounterd anything like that unless you're on a fairly old pc14:33
boriseikon81g running Ubuntu  on a USB 3.0 Storage would not be as fast as running it on an SSD but have never tried this... I imagine you may get some disk latency.14:33
eikon81gboris, I was thinking the same thing the transfer rates could cause a bottleneck but to be straight forward I haven't noticed any at all.14:34
eikon81gmy kids are big in minecraft and it seems to run just as good off the usb.. I know that's not much of a test but for my purposes it seemed like a viable option I was concerned about that until I started tinkering..14:35
BluesKajeikon81g:  ok, is this pc older than 2010?14:35
eikon81gIt's an i3 with 5gb ram14:35
eikon81g(I don't know what year it was manufactured) HP G6 laptop14:36
boriseikon81g That's not bad at all.14:36
eikon81gI got it for 60 bucks it had an overheating issue which I remedied with a tear down and new application of arctic silver..14:37
boriseikon81g What kind of USB disk is it installed on?14:37
eikon81g(and a con o' air)14:37
ashkanrhi everybody14:37
eikon81gboris, I ordered a couple usb 3.0 flash drives yesterday this one may honestly be a 2.014:38
eikon81gon a sidebar is there a deffinitive way to seeif this machine is usb 3.0 capable in ubuntu?14:38
boriseikon81g you could try lsusb or fdisk -l14:39
BluesKajeikon81g:  well it's made in 2011, so you're dealing with UEFI instead of bios, which can be a pita, so a persistent usb install to a stick might be a lot easier and safer14:40
TJ-eikon81g: use "cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/usb*/version"14:40
eikon81gok I'm onit 1 sec ty guys14:40
eikon81gBUMMER :\ 2.014:41
logikoscan someone help me with a fstab question, this works: //192.168.2.11/homes/logikos /home/logikos/mnt/ltnas cifs noauto,users,credentials=/etc/.ltnas  0  0 - but this does not: //192.168.2.11/ /home/logikos/mnt/ltnas cifs noauto,users,credentials=/etc/.ltnas  0  014:41
idvoretskyihi everyone14:41
eikon81gthanks boris and tj14:41
FrankChenhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DmBnrwq6/Yee.jpg14:41
FrankChenYee14:41
eikon81gWell that throws a wrench in the mix14:41
logikosi want to mount the entire file system of the NAS which includes some shared folders14:41
boriseikon81g You're welcome & Happy New Year14:41
eikon81gSAME TO YOu!!14:42
FrankChenHappy New year14:42
daogiahieuhappy new year too14:43
daogiahieuhope in 2016, more people will use linux14:43
eikon81gI just started my kids out on chromebooks with crouton so hopefully they will learn much sooner than I did!14:44
FrankChenHope ubuntu will support more devices14:44
eikon81g!touch | FrankChen14:44
ubottuFrankChen: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch14:44
eikon81gThe development has been going for quite some time14:45
eikon81gin the EU there are several end-user devices that ship with Ubuntu touch14:45
p3rrorWhat do you think about ubuntu mobile experience ?14:47
FrankCheneikon81g: Do you know about the solution of ralink wifi??It doesn't work on 15.1014:47
borisp3rror I bought the first model and it was quite nice - I loved the 2 SIM card option. Alot of development still to be done i think.14:48
eikon81gFrankChen, I have not come across that yet.. I could give you a workaround off the top of my head though, is it for a laptop??14:48
eikon81gp3rror, I have a nexus 7 that is on my project list to be flashed but I haven't gotten around to it yet..14:49
FrankChenDesktop PC(( RT287014:49
eikon81gI don't have an honest opinion as of now.. the drawback for me is that there's no ability to run android apps on it so I would lose some of the things I normally use14:49
p3rrorboris, I heard about it I neveer use it yet14:49
eikon81gFrankChen, have you considered a cheap usb wifi adapter14:50
eikon81gI'm sure you can find a compatible one for around 10 USD14:50
lin_lin13hello, good night14:50
eikon81gor if the machine has pci slots you could get a pci wifi card on the cheap14:50
borisp3rror they are close to the first release of convergence where you can plug it in to a keyboard/mouse/monitor - I love the idea :)14:51
TJ-FrankChen: what exactly is the problem with the RT2870?14:51
aldebaranJust trying out i3wm on my ubuntu laptop. How are you guys going to celebrate 2016: The year of the linux desktop?14:51
ricknothing14:51
FrankChenI bought a Asus USB AC51 in 60 USD ,and the package said support Linux ((lol14:52
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lin_lin13I installed gns3,but  I do not know  where can I download the cisco's ios ?14:52
p3rrorboris, I see14:52
MonkeyDustaldebaran  "the year of the linux desktop" has been predicted for 10 years now and has never come14:52
FrankChenTJ-:  compiling error14:53
eikon81ghow did you go about the install? when you look in the updates center does it show up under the additional drivers tab14:53
borislin_lin13 Cisco are verys strict about there ISO's (for licencing purposes) - If you have any Cisco devices you can probably tftp them off.14:53
FrankCheneikon81g: Nope ,It doesn't show any thing about it14:54
TJ-FrankChen: the RT2870 is supported natively by the Linux rt2800usb module14:54
eikon81gTJ-, is there an apt-get he can use instead of compiling the driver?14:55
lin_lin13gns3 let me import the cisco's ios image,    else  It is not used14:55
FrankChenBus 001 Device 006: ID 0b05:17d1 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. AC51 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wireless Adapter [Mediatek MT7610/Ralink RT2870]14:56
aldebaranMonkeyDust: That is how predictions work. You are wrong 99% of the time, but that one time you are right you are a visionary thinker with the pulse of the tech world. Look at stock predictions, people make outrageous claims all the time then WHAM they are correct one time and end up on the front page of Forbes.14:56
TJ-FrankChen: eikon81g: no download needed; rt2800usb is part of the Linux kernel14:56
FrankChenlsusb14:56
FrankChenSo what can I Do now to fix it14:56
eikon81gI see..14:57
TJ-FrankChen: OK, so Asus have changed the Device ID so the rt2800usb driver doesn't have an alias for it14:57
eikon81gTJ-, is good, real good. lol14:58
borislin_lin13 Yep, you have to get the iso first from the Cisco device first then use the import feature in GNS3 - Infact, there are CD's you get when purchasing Cisco kit which will have the ISO's on them.14:59
FrankChenTJ-: install Linux-firmware will work??15:00
eikon81gFrankChen, I am just googling but it looks like you can bind a driver to the device15:03
TJ-FrankChen: no. Do this: "sudo modprobe rt2800usb" then "echo '0b05 17d1' | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/usb/drivers/rt2800usb/new_id" ... then do "tail /var/log/kern.log"15:03
eikon81gTJ-, is on it..15:04
TJ-FrankChen: those commands load the driver, tell it to bind to devices with the ID 0b05:17d1, and then check's the kernel log to ensure the driver 'found' the USB device15:04
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eikon81g!cookie | TJ-15:05
ubottuTJ-: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!15:05
FrankChenOkay ,I'll try it later ,take a shower first (*^o^*)15:05
eikon81goh man..15:05
eikon81gwe were invested.15:05
eikon81gwell make sure you copy that command and save it15:05
eikon81gpretty awesome TJ- I learn a lot watching the pros work. Thanks for your time.15:07
FrankChenGive me a link to copy cause I am using my hㄒㄈ phone15:07
TJ-eikon81g: :) this is my light relief from coding an apache httpd module15:07
eikon81gman, I'm trying to get like you. lol. I'm stell a new-b BUT I've been a windows junkie for years15:08
eikon81gFrankChen, you will need to type in the commands he sent you verbatim in terminal15:08
eikon81gFrankChen, I can e-mail it to you (if that's allowed) pm me your e-mail address15:09
TJ-FrankChen: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/RT2870.txt15:10
eikon81gTJ-, is a fool with it.. that's awesome15:10
FrankChenTJ-:  need Kern.log right??15:14
FrankChenI got a usbcore: registered New interface driver rt2800usb15:15
FrankChenIs that right??15:16
FrankChenhttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/YauO50cG/kern.log15:17
eikon81gsounds right15:18
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eikon81gdid the wifi options enable on your network indicator?15:19
FrankChenReboot first15:19
eikon81gyou may try a quick reboot15:19
eikon81gYea..15:19
FrankChenLol15:19
FrankChenSaid goodbye for 2015 after 40 minutes15:20
FrankChenYeah!!!15:20
FrankChenHmm.... Nothing15:21
FrankChenFrankChen:15:21
eikon81ghumm15:22
LaserAllanIs there any alternative in Linux to Windows Bitlocker?15:23
aoidiihi. are x/k/ubuntu or others under canonical control?15:23
cfhowlettaoidii, yes15:23
cfhowlett!flavors | aoidii15:23
ubottuaoidii: !Ubuntu-GNOME, !Kubuntu, !Xubuntu and !Lubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with GNOME, KDE, Xfce, and LXDE (respectively) installed as default, instead of Unity. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu, Ubuntu !Studio, and !Mythbuntu.15:23
aoidiii hate unity15:23
eikon81gaoidii, they have their own channels for support on irc as well15:23
k1lLaserAllan: truecrypt15:23
cfhowlettaoidii, so don't use it15:23
FrankChenU can try Lee15:23
LaserAllank1l: How complicated is it to get it working properly?, i ahve only used bitlocker so far15:24
eikon81gI like xfce15:24
FrankChenIt just like Mac os x15:24
k1laoidii: dont believe the FUD about ubuntu beeing spread. if you dont like unity you can use other desktops if you like15:24
cfhowlettaoidii, try any of those flavors listed.15:24
aoidiithank you guys :)15:25
k1lLaserAllan: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrueCrypt  i dont have 1st hand experience with that15:25
FrankChenC'mon any one know the solution about rt2800usb??15:25
LaserAllank1l: Thanks15:26
LaserAllanAnyone in here having experinece with dual booting on a laptop with Windows and Linux?15:26
eikon81gFrankChen, I am stuck too.. I think the driver has been binded to the device ID now15:26
TJ-FrankChen: reboot kills what the solution did!15:26
k1lLaserAllan: dualboot is not an issue.15:26
eikon81gDOH15:26
TJ-FrankChen: those commands only last for the current boot session, they're a workaround for the driver not having the device ID hard-coded in it15:26
eikon81gsorry FrankChen15:27
FrankChenHmm...15:27
cfhowlettLaserAllan, most of us do.15:27
FrankChenTJ-: should I do it again??15:27
eikon81gLaserAllan, if you plan on tinkering the rule of thumb is to make backups of the stuff you can't afford to lose lol15:27
eikon81gFrankChen, yea, this time with no reboot15:28
lettuce45hi, i have a problem playing taiwanese and japanese streams with radiotray. It used to work, but not anymore. A list of taiwanese radio senders was taken from http://www.ubuntu-tw.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=157184 help appreciated15:28
TJ-FrankChen: have 2 terminal (tabs) open. In the 1st start monitoring the kernel log with "sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log" ... in the 2nd "sudo modprobe rt2800usb; echo '0b05 17d1' | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/usb/drivers/rt2800usb/new_id" then watch what the kernel log shows. You can send us the log extract with "pastebinit <( tail -n 100 /var/log/kern.log )"15:28
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LaserAllaneikon81g: Well it's just recently been installed so i have nothing that I cant afford to lose, the only thing i really wouldn't liek to lsoe is the warranty if GRUB ruines the recoevery partition that Is currently installed15:28
eikon81gyea, depending on the machine you may get the option to install Ubuntu alongside Windows in the installer15:29
FrankChenSorry guys I must need to take a shower first15:29
lettuce45I get a message: "a redirec messages was posted on the bus and should have been handled by the application"15:29
LaserAllaneikon81g: Ok, i take that is I don't get that option, i should not install Linux?15:30
eikon81gSO one way that I have avoided hosing my windows install was to run a persistent USB with ubuntu on it15:30
LaserAllanBecuase i'd be really shit to ruin it after barely one day of useage15:30
LaserAllanOh15:30
LaserAllanYeah that is allways an option15:30
LaserAllanAnd i suppose you install stuff to the USB then?15:30
eikon81grun it off of a usb or you could opt to install onto a USB it takes up more space and you will have the login and password functions for security15:31
TJ-LaserAllan: if the Windows install is encrypted, the os-prober won't be able to find the Windows install.15:31
eikon81gLaserAllan, if it's persistent it will save all the changes you make as you go15:31
FrankChenalso I have a old WiFi device dwa 127 and I didn't see any thing on lsusb ,I think it's a hard brick15:31
FrankChenAny solution15:31
FrankChen??15:31
borisLaserAllan Another option (a wildcard for you) instead of dual booting is to install Virtual Box and have Ubuntu as a Virtual Machine (if your hardware can handle it) That way you can have bot machines running at once.15:31
eikon81gyou will only need to use "f11" or esc or whatever your machine asks for to select the boot device for USB when booting15:32
FrankChenHmm... Or F8(( Asus motherboard15:32
eikon81gFrankChen, shower first then come back, this way you can get all the way through to resolution15:32
LaserAllanWell I was planning to only use windows for gmaing and linux fore verything else15:32
LaserAllan"everything else15:32
eikon81glol15:32
LaserAllanBut I will at least make a bootable usb and see what options it gives me15:33
FrankChenShower first guy15:33
eikon81gLaserAllan, I am running in persistent now and its absolutely workable..15:33
LaserAllaneikon81g: Are you dual booting or just booting of the USB?15:33
eikon81gUsb persistent15:33
LaserAllanAh15:33
LaserAllanYeah that is an interesting option15:33
eikon81gI can run minecraft and multiple applications. I am even on usb 2.015:33
eikon81git's do-able15:34
LaserAllanas far as hrdware goes, its an ASUS ROG laptop with an i7, M2ssd an anvidia 960M gpu15:34
LaserAllanand it currently has 8 gigs of ram15:34
LaserAllanso yeah it's decent15:34
eikon81gfor my setup it's the best option unless I breakdown and format this machine and start from the ground up15:34
LaserAllanBut I really like using Linux15:34
LaserAllanTrue15:34
eikon81gum yea, that's a nasty piece of hardware you will be fine15:34
LaserAllanI'll see what options it gives me when i try to install linux15:34
LaserAllanHopefully it won't fool me into ruining windows:P15:35
eikon81gyea, if it has an esata port you could go that route too15:35
LaserAllaneikon81g: Well I see it as my notebook which is abrely fit for gaming15:35
eikon81gyou need to check the bios boot order15:35
miraceti56http://www.t411.in/15:35
LaserAllanmy desktop is far heavier15:35
LaserAllanAh15:35
LaserAllanTrue15:35
LaserAllanI did check BIOS and I found that the I need to add the USB boot myself15:35
eikon81gyea, if you decide on a persistent option use this: univeral usb installer http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/15:35
LaserAllanI use Yumi to create bootables but thanks ill use universal USB installer instead15:36
LaserAllanWhat size are you using?15:36
eikon81gwell that's not too terrible. You may look around a bit and see if there is a FN key that will prompt a boot selection15:36
eikon81glaser it's on an 8 and you could technically go smaller. I ordered a 1615:36
eikon81gyou still have access to the other partitions on the HDD so if need be yu could move larger files over to the HDD from the linux session15:37
LaserAllanAh15:37
LaserAllanSounds good15:37
eikon81gI can honestly say you will probably be impressed15:37
eikon81gespecially on usb 3.015:37
LaserAllanWell, id really like to fully switch to linu but gaming is the only obstacle atm15:37
valtrip2i removed compiz tools - then logged out-logged back in ,, now dash is gone15:37
LaserAllanI'll give it a shot anyhow15:38
valtrip2and top panel too ,,, what can i do15:38
eikon81gwell dualboot is one option the other is something like this that we are talking about15:38
eikon81gthe advantage here is that you wont have a chance to hose your windows install15:38
lettuce45does anybody here use radio tray?15:40
MonkeyDustlettuce45  yes15:42
MonkeyDustlettuce45  struggling with radiotray? i use it15:42
lettuce45MonkeyDust, do you happen to listen to taiwanese, chinese or japanese streams?15:43
ioriavaltrip2, reinstall compiz ?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/458210/would-removing-compiz-from-ubuntu-14-04-affect-unity-or-any-other-such-dependenc15:43
MonkeyDustlettuce45  no, i live in a different segment of the globe15:43
candi_oi15:43
valtrip2ioria ,, i did re-installed it ,, logged out-in ,, still nothing15:43
candi_como estas amigo15:44
MonkeyDust!es15:44
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:44
ioriavaltrip2,  exactly what command you gave ?15:44
ioriavaltrip2,  dpkg -l compiz*15:45
FrankChenTJ-:  please give me your email address,parents asked me to sleep15:45
valtrip2ioria ,, sudo apt-get remove compiz   -- then   to re-install sudo apt-get install compiz15:46
ioriavaltrip2,  can you post   dpkg -l compiz*15:46
FrankCheneikon81g : plz give me your email address ,parents asked me to sleep15:48
ioriavaltrip2,  on paste.ubuntu.com or with pastebinit15:48
valtrip2ioria ,, http://pastebin.com/ZaqBUudV15:48
valtrip2i removed it , thinking i messed up something ,, because i wasn't able to change desktop background15:49
valtrip2or right click on desktop15:50
ioriavaltrip2,  install compiz-plugins-default15:51
auronandaceFrankChen: you can always return back here after you have slept15:52
MonkeyDust24/7 service15:52
FrankChenLoL15:53
borisRight I'm off Happy New Year everyone. Here's to 2016 and Ubuntu!15:53
valtrip2ioria ,, already the latest version ,, :(15:53
Rauloi peSSOAL15:53
ioriavaltrip2,  install compiz-plugins-main15:54
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Guest35744alguém pode me ajudar??15:54
MonkeyDust!br15:54
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.15:54
Guest35744ok15:54
Guest35744I can tanlk in english. I'm sorry15:54
Guest35744guys, I'm with a little problem on Ubuntu Gnome here15:55
Guest35744I've installed Office 2010 on Ubuntu Gnome 15.10 64-bit under PlayOnLinux15:55
Guest35744but I can't writte accents15:56
MonkeyDustGuest35744  try #winehq15:56
Guest35744ok. I'm try15:56
valtrip#winehq15:56
valtripMonkeyDust ,, is #winehq a channel15:57
valtriphey ,, does using wine makes ubuntu(any distro) vulnerable to windows malwares????15:59
mcphailvaltrip: yes, some malware can run under wine15:59
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FrankChenSo am I16:03
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boo7how can I move the dashboard thingie from the left side to the bottom?16:17
mcphailboo7: you can't, unless you switch from Unity to a different desktop environment16:21
boo7:<16:22
anabain???16:22
ioria!info cairo-dock16:22
ubottucairo-dock (source: cairo-dock): Light and eye-candy dock to launch your programs (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.1-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 5 kB, installed size 47 kB16:22
ioriaboo7, you could try with cairo-dock  , but i have never done that http://askubuntu.com/questions/507449/how-to-move-taskbar-to-bottom-position-as-in-windows16:22
boo7I've just switched to linux last night so I dont know if i shuld mess with those stuff16:22
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mcphailboo7: of course you should mess with it! That's what Linux is all about :)16:23
mcphailboo7: The MATE desktop is very similar to a traditional Windows desktop and may be better suited to your tastes16:23
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boo7Is it relatively easy to change DE?16:25
mcphailboo7: you can try it by running "sudo apt-get install mate-desktop", logging out, then picking "MATE" from the login screen16:25
anabainboo7, you could try the kde environment, which is pretty similar to the traditional w$ desktop too.16:25
mcphailboo7: yes, KDE is good too. Try a few and see what you like16:25
boo7ok guys, thanks for the help, i'll look into those DE's :D16:27
lubuntu./server irc.explosionirc.net16:28
heiko__Hi mein Name ist Heiko.Sind hier noch andere Deutsche?16:29
Dinosaurio!de | heiko__16:31
ubottuheiko__: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!16:31
vgvvwHi guys, where is the kali linux room?16:31
heiko__Danke16:31
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somsip!kali | vgvvw16:46
ubottuvgvvw: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)16:46
boo7what can i do to remove a package if 'apt-get remove ..' dosnt works?16:56
MonkeyDustboo7  aptitudde16:57
MonkeyDustboo7  aptitude16:57
boo7whats that?16:57
MonkeyDustboo7  you ask a question and when you get an answer, you ask what it is16:58
zeroChey there, is there any way to figure out which options were used for compiling qemu?16:58
MonkeyDustboo7  in a terminal, type  man aptitude16:59
boo7No manual entry for aptitude16:59
boo7 16:59
MonkeyDustboo7  in a terminal, what's the output of   cat /etc/issue17:00
boo7ubuntu 15.1017:00
MonkeyDustboo7  odd...17:01
boo7lovely17:02
ioriaboo7, what's the package ?17:02
boo7kde-telepathy17:02
ioriaboo7, try sudo apt-get remove --auto-remove kde-telepathy17:04
boo7same error as "sudo apt-get remove kde-telepathy"17:05
boo7http://pastebin.com/BL1Rys6Q <17:06
anabainboo7, if you're trying to switch from your current ubuntu to kubuntu, I'd try a new fresh install downloading the kde iso image.17:06
boo7I dont know about kubuntu, but im tring to move to Cinnamon DE17:07
TJ-zeroC: the build log for the source package17:07
anabainboo7, in that case, consider this handy partitioning (you'll have to do it manually at the installer): one partition for / dir, perhaps another for swapping (2gb or 4gb), and another (the big one) for your /home dir17:08
zeroCTJ-: thanks :)17:09
anabainboo7, this way, if you want to reinstall your (whatever)ubuntu system, you only need to modify the / partition.17:09
ioriaboo7, try with purge , sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove kde-telepathy17:11
zeroCTJ-: helps a lot! great!17:11
zeroC:)17:11
boo7anabain: im reallt really new to linux, but im uderstand you are talking about re-install ubuntu and change the partitioning from the defult settings?17:11
anabainyes17:12
boo7ioria: same error :<17:12
ioriaboo7,  sudo apt-get purge kde-config-telepathy-accounts  ,  what it says ?17:14
anabainboo7, if don't fancy fiddling things yet and like a more traditional W$-style for your desktop, please consider what I said. It'll save you time and, moreover, will allow you to make subsequent changes to your system without having to touch your /home dir17:14
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boo7anabain: I dont really know the benefits of it cuz I dont know whats go on the /home dir17:16
anabainboo7, your /home dir is the place where you put your stuff: documents, videos, etc.17:16
boo7ioria: exacly the same error XD17:16
anabainyour valuable data17:16
boo7my desktop files and packages go in the /home dir?17:17
anabainboo7, it's the place you want to keep safe the most17:17
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anabainboo7, you have to distinguish between your personal stuff and the system stuff17:19
ioriaboo7,  can you paste  apt-cache policy kde-telepathy-minimal17:20
anabainboo7, typically, your /home dir is the place where users store their photos, documents, videos, etc. All other parts of the system are not important in the sense that they can always be recovered, re-set, etc.17:21
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anabainboo7, if you want to make backups (and you SHOULD, bad things always happen), you do want to backup your /home dir.17:22
boo7anabain: yeah I just looked in there, btw "bad things always happen"? thats sound promising :D17:24
boo7ioria: http://pastebin.com/ttpA1EHc17:24
ioriaboo7,  apt-cache policy kde-telepathy-minimal17:25
ioriano, sorry17:25
ioriaboo7,  apt-cache policy kde-config-telepathy-accounts17:25
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anabainboo7, therefore, if you partition your hdd into three parts: 1) /home for your stuff  2) for swapping (I'm not sure if it's really necessary these days; perhaps some guru here can give more info about that)   and 3) /  for the rest of the system, you can change your system and keep your /home partition intact.17:26
UserUSboo7: swapping is only not necessary really with paging turned on, or in a system that is only linux17:26
anabainboo7, bad things always happen = your HDDs are not immortal17:27
boo7good thing i have ssd17:27
anabainboo7, ssd are less reliable than traditional hdds17:27
boo7really? never herd something like that17:28
boo7ioria: http://pastebin.com/W4ZzmvUC17:28
choc0if they stay still they are17:28
SchrodingersScattrust them all like they're about to catch on fire and you'll have less worries, or is that more worries? But less about losing the data.17:28
choc0if you move around a lot with a laptop with jarring motions then ssd will last longer17:28
anabainboo7, so in that case there's more to worry about. As a rule of thumb: don't trust your storing devices17:28
choc0some brands are much more reliable than others17:29
ioriaboo7,  it's not installed ...17:29
choc0i've had a laptop hd go back in 3 years and others last 15 years17:30
ioriaboo7,  i'm afraid you have to risk    apt-get -f install   :(17:31
boo7ioria: when I try to install Cinnamon from the software center it tells me I need to remove kde-telepathy and one other thing17:31
boo7ioria: allready tried it17:31
ioriaboo7,  and ?17:31
boo7same error XD17:31
anabainboo7, as a rule of thumb: keep at least one backup regularly performed (weekly, perhaps) of your /home stuff on an external hdd (which, of course, can also die)17:31
boo7like thr first one i sent you17:31
ioriaboo7,  yeah17:32
boo7anabain: some times I backup scripts and bookmarks on flash drive\dropbox, but I dont have any really important data but those stuff..17:33
retrojeffhow do I fix open with mime types?17:34
anabainboo7, btw, if you had downloaded a new .iso image you could already be installing your new system...17:34
retrojeffon debian I am able todo open with sublime text and it works17:34
retrojeffon ubuntu it just opens a blank document17:34
ioriaboo7,  dpkg -l kde-telepathy*17:34
anabainboo7, nobody better than you to know what your needs are about backing your valuable data up17:35
boo7anabain: I allready have ubuntu 15.10 on a cd17:36
retrojeffioria: thanks for showing me that you can wildcard17:36
ioriaretoaded, np17:36
boo7ioria: http://pastebin.com/ZUZdLz6L17:37
ioriaretrojeff, np17:37
c_nickHi any way to start using virtual box with full capability of playing windows games?17:37
c_nick by games i mean Age of Empires , Unreal Tournament .. (not too hard core graphics games) I have a Intel G41 Graphics Processor.17:37
c_nick hate to install windows in dual boot17:37
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ioriaboo7,  sudo apt-get purge kde-telepathy*17:40
boo7one of us must give up by now XD17:40
ioria^_^.... not me :þ17:41
boo7well, no error this time17:41
ioriaboo7,  ok, but if you want KDE, better choise is Kubuntu17:42
ioria*choice17:42
studdenttsay i have many terminals open17:43
boo7humm, I [think] I want Cinnamon, is Cinnamon == KDE\kubuntu?17:43
studdentthow can i open one when there are the small arrows besides the icon and none of the terminals are visible on the desktop ?17:44
ioriaboo7,  idts17:44
boo7idts = ? :o17:44
anabainboo7, if you want kde, install kde17:44
auronandaceboo7: no, cinnamon is based on gnome 3 code, made to look like gnome 217:44
ioriaboo7,  what's your specs ?17:45
boo7i7 6gb RAM ?17:45
ioriaboo7,  you can install what you want, then17:45
anabainboo7, http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/   I'd try 15.10 if I were you17:46
ioriaright17:46
boo7with what DE kubuntu comes with?17:46
ioriakde17:46
ioriaboo7,  it's very eye-candy17:47
anabainboo7, download the iso, get an usb stick and create a bootable usb device that will let you install (or try) kubuntu on your box17:47
boo7its gonna delete all the data i allready have on ubuntu?17:48
ioriaboo7,  yep...17:50
anabainboo7, 15 min to install it (probably less). Remember to partition as I said. /home in a separate partition17:51
theprasadhello guys how to build the cloud servers with ubuntu17:51
theprasad?17:52
ioriaboo7,  otherwise you can install  kubuntu-desktop  , but it will take a bit chunck of your disk17:52
ioria*big17:52
studdenttwhats the default GUI in ubuntu ?17:53
auronandacestuddentt: unity17:53
studdenttauronandace :ty,  do you know how to recover terminal session ?17:53
boo7ioria, anabain thanks alot :)17:53
ioriaboo7,  np, stay tuned  :)17:54
studdenttauronandace: when you cant see them on screen but there are small arrows on the left of the icon17:54
anabainboo7, you're welcome17:54
auronandacestuddentt: click the icon17:54
studdentt>.>17:55
vgvvw!kali17:55
studdenttauronandace: yesterday it diditn work17:55
ubottuUbuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)17:55
theprasadanyone can help me with respect to cloud server ubuntu17:56
auronandacestuddentt: you can also alt-tab17:56
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Phreyaexit18:10
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AndroUser(AndroUser) I need a new low end laptop, 930m adds to the cost but Im not sure about the advantage over intel hd550018:27
EndStopsomebody is familiar with genymotion ?18:33
retrojeffproblem solved I had to purge and reinstall gvfs18:38
EndStopGenymotion is not configured properly. Make sure you have added its installation directory to your PATH environment variable.18:42
JillyBAnyone know how to get a dell 3147 running 15.10 to wake from sleep properly?18:47
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meghaasdoodzoI'm running xubuntu, and after resetting the cmos, now I get a totally black screen after selecting "ubuntu" from the grub menu.18:53
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irennHey guys. im trying to install ubuntu alongside windows 8.1 but anytime i get to that part i dont have this option19:00
irenni have 8.1 on master boot record,19:00
helmut_hello lisbeth where are you from?19:00
irenni created the usb stick using rufus and official image from ubuntu website 14.04.319:01
irennwhy dont i get the option to install alongside 8.1 ?19:01
UmeaboyHi! The name of the Ubuntu installer is Ubiquity, right?19:04
nicomachusUmeaboy: no.19:04
UmeaboyOK. What is it then?19:04
nicomachusto install programs or to install ubuntu?19:05
UmeaboyI want to continue translating it.19:05
UmeaboyTo install Ubuntu.19:05
irennPlease help. Why I dont get the option to install alongside windows 8.1  ? :(19:05
nicomachusUmeaboy: ohh... well that is Ubiquity. my bad.19:06
nicomachusirenn: is it UEFI?19:06
irennim not using uefi, in windows it says master boot record,19:06
irenni know the mobo supports uefi19:06
irennits an asrock h97 pro419:06
nicomachuswas Windows pre-installed?19:06
irenni already have windows installed if that's what you mean, i installed it a couple days ago19:07
nicomachusDid you install windows as UEFI or Legacy?19:07
irenni think legacy. when i selected the boot device from the f11 boot menu i did not select the usb stick that started with uefi but the other one19:08
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nicomachusirenn: well you need to check to make sure by looking in your BIOS settings. Then you need to double-check that you are installing Ubuntu in the same way. Use this for reference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI19:08
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irenni tried both, selecting the same stick where it starts with uefi and where it starts without, the one with ubuntu on it i mean19:09
irennbut i still did not get that option19:09
irenn:(19:09
garmeerafter resetting my cmos battery, I'm getting a black screen after GRUB. Any ideas on what I did wrong?19:10
studdenttgarmeer: RTC ? try resetting the date in the BIOS19:11
garmeerI'll try that. one sec.19:13
JillyBbbl19:14
garmeerstuddentt thanks so much. this was the last in a long string of problems which I caused by daring to try overclocking, now its finally fixed.19:17
studdenttgarmeer: what did you change? time and date ?19:18
nicomachusoverclocking ubuntu? I want to ask why, but it's really not on topic here. lol19:18
garmeeryeah. I jus set the time and date to correct values.19:18
studdenttgarmeer: np19:18
garmeeris there something wrong with overclocking ubuntu? I'm not super smart with these things, so maybe I did something wrong.19:19
studdenttgarmeer: that battery is used to keep track of time inside the chip while the computer is turned off19:19
garmeeryeah, I know. I would never have thought that the time would have caused that issue though.19:19
studdenttgarmeer: the first boot stages probably need this information and for the OS afterward19:20
irennProbably ubuntu is reading the UEFI BIOS, while windows 7 was installed in LEGACY bios. A Simple solution to this problem is to just turnoff the UEFI bios from bios setup19:20
irennthis was it19:20
garmeerwhat's wrong with overclocking xubuntu though? I've got a Pentium which bottlenecks me sometimes, and I read that its a good chip to overclock.19:21
studdenttgarmeer : its the processor you overclock not the OS19:22
daftykinsbuy better hardware, it's cheaper than the time you waste tinkering19:23
studdenttgarmeer : you should try overclocking the CPU -then- install a fesh copy of the OS19:23
garmeeryeah I know, duh. but someone told asked me why I was trying to overclock with ububtu19:23
HackerIIuse 64 bit, not 3219:23
studdenttgarmeer: theres some PLL configurations that you change in the BIOS to get higher CPU frequency19:23
garmeerI know the basics of overclocking. but when I tried to up the voltage, everything died and I had to fix a ton of issues.19:24
HackerIIwhat mobo19:24
garmeerMSI z9719:24
HackerIIget an asus19:25
studdentti would not mess with voltages19:25
studdenttahh nvm maybe a little bit with higher frequency19:25
sevenbitwho19:25
HackerIIdont overclock your ram either19:26
UmeaboyThe link https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5-snapshot/qdatetime.html#fromString-2 seems to be dead.19:26
UmeaboyI found it in the package called ubuntu-ui-toolkit.19:27
garmeerthis mobo was part of a $100 bundle with a Pentium at micro center. seemed like a good idea at the time.19:27
UmeaboyCan anyone change the link?19:27
HackerIIthats why19:27
HackerIIyour north bridge cant handle it19:27
garmeerhacker, so I should avoid overclocking altogether?19:28
HackerIIw/that board, yes19:28
DJonesUmeaboy: It might be worth reporting that as a bug to the package maintainer, its not something people here would be able to change19:29
garmeerhuh. alright. maybe it's time for a new cpu anyways. Christmas is coming up.19:29
HackerIIlol19:29
DJonesUmeaboy: If you look at http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-ui-toolkit&searchon=names&suite=wily&section=all hopefully that'll give you the right package to report a bug against19:30
codepython7771Is this any good for programming/CAD - ? http://www.amazon.com/GL552VW-DH71-15-Inch-Discrete-GeForce-Metallic/dp/B01578ZKPO19:31
codepython7771Has anyone used Asus laptops here?19:31
PhreyaI worked for SolidWorks for a year19:32
Phreyalleett  lleett  mmee  ffggffgg19:32
Phreyaffvvddff19:32
Umeaboycodepython7771: I have. :)19:37
codepython7771Umeaboy: how is it going?19:44
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Jamie_1is there a way to chown both a fold and the contents in it19:56
Jamie_1every time i chown a folder it leaves the contents as root19:58
daftykinssounds like it's NTFS19:59
Sauloaway: HAPPY NEW YEAR! [Log: pvt on - canal on]19:59
Jamie_1no its ext3 daftykins19:59
daftykinsSaulo: please disable that script in here19:59
SauloJStoker, sorry19:59
daftykinsthen either the mount sets it so, or your chown command is wrong19:59
daftykinschown -R username:group /path/to/20:00
Jamie_1im using chown jamie <folder>20:00
Jamie_1*sudo chown jamie <folder20:00
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daftykinsdo it as above on the parent, with jamie:jamie20:00
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Jamie_1daftykins: thanks that worked, have a happy new years!20:07
daftykinso/20:07
ivo34hello I am trying to set camera view to current view but when I use the keyboard shortcut  ctrl+alt+ ins blender window minimizes...I guess there is some interference with my ubuntu system shortcuts but I cannot find it in  system preferences...20:10
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studdenttit does it again: cant switch terminal one is impossible to access20:15
GandalfHi20:16
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angel-salashola20:28
aydinhi20:30
aydindo not have one20:33
aydindo not have one server20:34
codepython7771anyone buying an ubuntu laptop today online?20:34
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aydinhiii20:47
codepython7771hi aydin20:49
ilhami!dropbox20:49
BluesKaj!info dropbox20:49
ubottuPackage dropbox does not exist in wily20:49
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ilhamisudo apt-get -y install nautilus-dropbox20:50
* dafb is updateing their security, what's a good way to automatically backup an encrypted usb after it's been successfully mounted, to another encrypted usb... are there any best practices, should there be anything i should worry about. (my threat model is non-physical access to the machiene, and is not government)20:55
dafbalso what's a good way to have the backup usb unmounted once the dackup has been made?20:56
nullbyte_where is in menus vsock in linux kernel21:05
lettuce45if I google news for "obamacare", will I get only critical results? whats the neutral term? Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is awfully long21:09
lettuce45critical as in negative21:09
lettuce45wrong channel21:09
daftykinsyou're right21:09
orqhi21:11
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prodigelhi all. Just bought an HP z4000 mouse, which doesn't want to work on ubuntu 15.04 ... syslog give me some interesting messages but I'm not sure they are related (looks more like printer stuff): http://termbin.com/62oa . Any idea how I can trace the problem ?21:11
JillyBI have a Dell 3147 with 15.10...having issues with sleep and system hangs and on boot it shows a purpleish colored screen for like 30 seconds.21:12
JillyBThen boots.  It's a SSD so should be FAAAAST at booting.21:13
JillyBAny ideas?21:13
ubuntu-studiono is21:13
orqhallo i would wish you all a happy new year !!!21:13
maviorq: Happy New Year!21:14
ubuntu-studiohappy neu year21:15
nerdjonesso im pretty new to linux, and i have been fighting with getting this install working for a few days now, im trying to dual boot windows 10 and ubuntu gnome on this computer i built around a year ago, i finally got past all the uefi stuff and now it seems as though grub is pointing to the wrong place, is this common?21:36
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nerdjoneswhen i go down to windows 10 in grub it says your pc/device needs to be repaired, a required device isnt connected or cant be accessed, when i hit 'e' on windows to it sats its pointing to /dev/sdc, but parted -l says the bootable windows partition is #1 on /dev/sdb21:38
ctlaltdelmy tabs my tabs more than 8021:46
linuxrhi all. I'm running 14.04.3 LTS with all updates installed and experiencing complete computer freezes usually when doing I/O over USB or SD card.  The computer often freezes when doing a simple "umount" to a usb device, without anything logged in syslog or other logs. any ideas, anyone? thx21:46
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sgw1064how do i change password in pepperrmint 622:07
Umeaboysgw1064: For your user?22:08
sgw1064yes22:08
Umeaboysudo passwd username22:09
sgw1064?22:10
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OerHeksis that still alive, peppermint?22:14
UUneed a bit help with conky....22:15
UUthe rings wont show up22:15
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Guest92759anyone up?22:16
NegativeFlarehey guys22:16
m3ch4n1cyeap22:16
orqhi22:16
m3ch4n1chi22:16
Guest92759need some help with conky22:17
NegativeFlareI have a question, do any of you guys know exactly what date in January they are ending vivid?22:17
ilhamiwhat's up?22:17
NegativeFlareI really need to know22:17
xangua!vivid22:17
ubottuUbuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.04/ - 15.04 reaches end of life in January of 2016.22:17
m3ch4n1cI don't22:17
xanguaBetter upgrade before January then22:17
Guest92759hmm... anyone?22:18
ilhami16.04 is out soon22:19
m3ch4n1cdo you know how can I chat in deep web22:19
Guest92759well well22:19
m3ch4n1cmaybe in some hacker rooms22:19
ilhamim3ch4n1c, get tor22:19
m3ch4n1c??22:19
m3ch4n1cI have22:19
bazhangGuest92759, the conky beginners guide is at ubuntuforums22:19
NegativeFlarehmph alright22:19
m3ch4n1cbut I cannot connect22:19
ilhamifreenode blocked tor I think22:20
m3ch4n1cfreenode?22:20
bazhangm3ch4n1c, thats not on topic here, and freenode blocks tor irc22:20
sgw1064need hlp changing password pep 6 - login, software mgr ect22:20
Guest92759bazhang, problem is ive made the required folders but when i start it, only the text appears, the lua arts not.. as if conky isnt reading the .lua file22:20
bazhangsgw1064, where did you download peppermint from22:21
sgw1064baz  not sure friend did it22:21
bazhangsgw1064, is peppermint a 'based on' ubuntu distro22:22
sgw1064baz sorry im new to linux22:22
bithonhello22:23
m3ch4n1chi fellas22:23
bithonI'm trying to upgrade my kernel to 4.3.322:23
bithon(this is my first time) so, I'm unsure if it's okay to just use the default .config that comes with the source?22:23
m3ch4n1cit s ok22:25
bazhangm3ch4n1c, did you have an ubuntu support issue22:25
bithoni do have ubuntu related issue :D22:26
m3ch4n1cyea22:26
bazhangbithon, you want to go outside package management and upgrade the kernel, via compiling22:27
bazhanginstall build-essential bithon22:27
bithonyep22:27
bithonbut I already have all required dependancies to build the kernel22:27
bithonthe question I had was, would the default settings suffice and be stable in the long run if I compiled 4.3.3 with them22:28
bithoni'm running ubuntu 14.0422:28
bazhangbithon, first question, why are you trying to use that very newest of new versions22:29
bithonbazhang: well I have asus x205ta laptop that is not very well supported with the older version of kernel22:29
rwwif you don't understand kernel config enough to answer that, you probably shouldn't be compiling kernels22:29
bazhang!mainline22:29
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds22:29
bithonand people over at ubuntu forums recommended we install the 4.322:30
bazhangbithon, thats terrible advice22:30
bithonbazhang: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254322&page=34&p=13414345#post1341434522:33
bazhangbithon, its random advice, and not good: 'get the latest kernel'22:34
JillyBI just got a Dell 3147 with Bay Trail hardware.  Working mostly OK, but having some system hangs, when it boots it sits on a purple screen for about 30 secs before giving me a splash screen. It's an SSD.22:35
JillyBAnd doesn't wake from sleep.22:35
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bithonbazhang: aye, i'll just attempt with latest arch linux version then22:45
Finetundra_Hey folks, can someone help me install the driver for my ASUS PCE-N53 wireless card? Asus provided a driver that needed to be built but whenever I try I get an error22:45
bithon(will not install, just attempt to boot into the device)22:45
TrivialGravitasI think I have that wireless card...22:48
Finetundra_TrivialGravitas: do you remember how you installed the driver22:49
ikoniawhat chipset is on the wireless car22:49
TrivialGravitasfrom repo22:49
ikoniacard22:49
Finetundra_ikonia: how do I check22:49
Finetundra_TrivialGravitas: what do you mean?22:49
ilhamihey guys22:50
ilhamimy laptop won't boot from my USB.. what could be wrong?22:50
ilhamiit has worked on another laptop22:50
ilhamioh it worked now hehehe weird.22:51
geniiNot all laptops can boot from the usb22:51
TrivialGravitasFinetundra_, command 'lspci'22:51
ilhamigenii, it suddenly worked. :) tried some different ports22:51
TrivialGravitasif its the same mine is a RT279022:51
Finetundra_TrivialGravitas, ilhami: RT559222:52
ilhamimy network adapter has issues22:52
ilhamiit doesn't connect to my router22:53
ilhamii'll go restart the router.22:53
ilhamiQualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network adapter is the worst ever :D22:54
alice_hi !22:56
TrivialGravitasFinetundra_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2203226&page=2&s=9dcc18644e9e172bd5b6496ccdf8098d previous person with identical issue was given a solution here22:57
TrivialGravitasI have to take off, so if that doesn't work sorry, somebody else can probably help better than me anyway22:57
Finetundra_TrivialGravitas: I tried that, I keep getting errors when I run make22:57
UmeaboyHappy New Year!23:02
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ctlaltdelI am testing irc client, someone send hi pm23:11
ObrienDaveand spamming multiple channels with this drivel23:12
PlasmaStarWhat are you doing rww D:23:22
rwwPlasmaStar: kicking spambots.23:22
PlasmaStarI scrolled up and I see it now. :(23:22
ObrienDaverww likes to kick/ban spambots ;P23:23
daumhi guys - for some reason on my laptop (NP880Z5E) i can't get my bluetooth to work hcitool doesn't show any devices23:26
daumoops closed the window23:28
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orobogeniusHello, i have problem adding kdeconnect repo to ubuntu...23:53
nicomachusorobogenius: what version of ubuntu are you on?23:58
orobogeniusnicomachus: 14.0423:59

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