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soee_happy new year with lots of fun :D04:16
BluesKajHappy New Year folks13:19
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clivejoyofel: any word back from maxy regarding the problems in plasma5.5.2?16:53
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clivejo!kamoso21:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kamoso21:04
clivejo!info kamoso21:04
ubottukamoso (source: kamoso): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 141 kB, installed size 516 kB21:04
soee_clivejo: hiho, do we have to wait for 5.5.2 to be finished ?21:05
clivejosoee_: yup21:09
clivejoIve took it as far as I can21:09
clivejoneed upstream to confirm a few things21:09
clivejowell upstreams (KDE and Debian)21:10
soee_clivejo: so maybe you can upload latest apps ?21:11
soee_15.12.021:11
clivejowhat version have we?21:13
soee_xenial has 15.08.321:13
clivejonothing actually specific to xenial21:14
clivejothat was just copied over when xenial dev was opened I think21:14
clivejoIll certainly try, but Id need a nod or a wink from yofel or sgclark721:16
soee_well as topic says 15.12.0 are todo, so i think it is ok to strt with them21:17
soee_hmm but there is no Xenial on the list: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications21:17
soee_it is added automatically or needs to be done manually ?21:18
clivejothey will appear when someone stages and uploads them21:19
clivejoso a semi-automatic21:19
soee_yofel: what do you think ?21:19
clivejoI need a Kubuntu member to pause KCI21:23
soee_clivejo: why you are no kubuntu member yet ?21:24
clivejonope21:24
soee_but why ? :)21:24
clivejoyou dont want to know!21:24
soee_:D21:25
soee_clivejo: how do you think, how long it will take to learn packaging for a user who never did it before ?21:25
clivejono idea, depends on your interests and skill sets21:26
clivejothe problem is fixing the major stuff and that takes years of experience21:27
clivejoI came here to learn how to package Kolab and got interested in packaging KDE stuff21:28
clivejosoee_: are you interested in learning?21:30
clivejo:( looks like apps have a few problems21:31
soee_brb21:33
soee_clivejo: what problems apps have ?21:45
soee_clivejo: ye i plan to start with packaging for a long time already, never had enough free time to do it21:45
clivejojust watching the output and quite a few being moved to manual21:47
clivejoIve messaged yofel on Telegram, no answer there either21:52
clivejoI think Ill go to bed early21:54
clivejobad need to sleep21:54
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soee_hava a good night clivejo22:26
clivejosoee_: not gone yet!22:26
clivejo15 in manual so far22:27
soee_ah i thought you are off :D22:48
soee_just thoughts, i think 2016 will be cool year. Plasma 5 should be finally polished and work just as it should (maybe it will reach KDE4 stability). QT 5.6 LTS should be released. We will have Kubuntu 16.04 LTS :)22:52
soee_all i'm missing is probably some good Nvidia drivers that could fix the tearing problem and allow quick gpu switch22:53
clivejooh dear, staging-upload went off the rails22:58
clivejoktnef22:58
clivejoNew version specified (15.12.0-0ubuntu1) is less than22:59
clivejothe current version number (4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1)!  Use -b to force.22:59
soee_the leading 4: is autmaticaly added ?22:59
clivejoits an epoch23:00
soee_clivejo: what is epoch ?23:00
clivejoits used to reset a mistake in version numbers23:01
clivejosay someone uploaded plasma 15.5.3 as a typo23:01
clivejothat package would be installed instead of 5.5.423:02
clivejoup to the point that plasma reached 15.5.423:02
clivejoso we add an epoch23:02
clivejo!info ktnef23:03
ubottuktnef (source: kdepim): Viewer for mail attachments using TNEF format. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 75 kB, installed size 301 kB23:03
clivejoits got an epoch of 423:04
clivejoneeds to be added to the epoch list in packaging-exceptions.json23:05
clivejobut Im confused as to why its not there already23:05
clivejomust be a new epoch23:05
soee_hmm a bit confusing23:05
* clivejo nods23:06
clivejoI find version numbers the hardest to understand23:07
clivejoplasma is at 5, apps are at 1523:08
soee_also frameworks are @ 5.x23:08
soee_i think it would me much better to have apps also @ 5.x23:09
clivejoor have year month day23:09
soee_it could match frameworks version it uses also, something like 5.17.1 (5 - main version, 17 - frameworks version. 5.17, and 1 - bugfix release)23:10
clivejoanyways, I need someone to say yes or no to adding this package to exceptions23:11
clivejoso Ill give up for tonight23:11
clivejonight night23:11
soee_good night23:19

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