[04:16] happy new year with lots of fun :D [13:19] Happy New Year folks === aaron is now known as Guest93708 [16:53] yofel: any word back from maxy regarding the problems in plasma5.5.2? === aaron is now known as Guest72245 [21:04] !kamoso [21:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about kamoso [21:04] !info kamoso [21:04] kamoso (source: kamoso): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0.0-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 141 kB, installed size 516 kB [21:05] clivejo: hiho, do we have to wait for 5.5.2 to be finished ? [21:09] soee_: yup [21:09] Ive took it as far as I can [21:09] need upstream to confirm a few things [21:10] well upstreams (KDE and Debian) [21:11] clivejo: so maybe you can upload latest apps ? [21:11] 15.12.0 [21:13] what version have we? [21:13] xenial has 15.08.3 [21:14] nothing actually specific to xenial [21:14] that was just copied over when xenial dev was opened I think [21:16] Ill certainly try, but Id need a nod or a wink from yofel or sgclark7 [21:17] well as topic says 15.12.0 are todo, so i think it is ok to strt with them [21:17] hmm but there is no Xenial on the list: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications [21:18] it is added automatically or needs to be done manually ? [21:19] they will appear when someone stages and uploads them [21:19] so a semi-automatic [21:19] yofel: what do you think ? [21:23] I need a Kubuntu member to pause KCI [21:24] clivejo: why you are no kubuntu member yet ? [21:24] nope [21:24] but why ? :) [21:24] you dont want to know! [21:25] :D [21:25] clivejo: how do you think, how long it will take to learn packaging for a user who never did it before ? [21:26] no idea, depends on your interests and skill sets [21:27] the problem is fixing the major stuff and that takes years of experience [21:28] I came here to learn how to package Kolab and got interested in packaging KDE stuff [21:30] soee_: are you interested in learning? [21:31] :( looks like apps have a few problems [21:33] brb [21:45] clivejo: what problems apps have ? [21:45] clivejo: ye i plan to start with packaging for a long time already, never had enough free time to do it [21:47] just watching the output and quite a few being moved to manual [21:52] Ive messaged yofel on Telegram, no answer there either [21:54] I think Ill go to bed early [21:54] bad need to sleep === aaron is now known as Guest30443 [22:26] hava a good night clivejo [22:26] soee_: not gone yet! [22:27] 15 in manual so far [22:48] ah i thought you are off :D [22:52] just thoughts, i think 2016 will be cool year. Plasma 5 should be finally polished and work just as it should (maybe it will reach KDE4 stability). QT 5.6 LTS should be released. We will have Kubuntu 16.04 LTS :) [22:53] all i'm missing is probably some good Nvidia drivers that could fix the tearing problem and allow quick gpu switch [22:58] oh dear, staging-upload went off the rails [22:58] ktnef [22:59] New version specified (15.12.0-0ubuntu1) is less than [22:59] the current version number (4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1)! Use -b to force. [22:59] the leading 4: is autmaticaly added ? [23:00] its an epoch [23:00] clivejo: what is epoch ? [23:01] its used to reset a mistake in version numbers [23:01] say someone uploaded plasma 15.5.3 as a typo [23:02] that package would be installed instead of 5.5.4 [23:02] up to the point that plasma reached 15.5.4 [23:02] so we add an epoch [23:03] !info ktnef [23:03] ktnef (source: kdepim): Viewer for mail attachments using TNEF format. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 75 kB, installed size 301 kB [23:04] its got an epoch of 4 [23:05] needs to be added to the epoch list in packaging-exceptions.json [23:05] but Im confused as to why its not there already [23:05] must be a new epoch [23:05] hmm a bit confusing [23:06] * clivejo nods [23:07] I find version numbers the hardest to understand [23:08] plasma is at 5, apps are at 15 [23:08] also frameworks are @ 5.x [23:09] i think it would me much better to have apps also @ 5.x [23:09] or have year month day [23:10] it could match frameworks version it uses also, something like 5.17.1 (5 - main version, 17 - frameworks version. 5.17, and 1 - bugfix release) [23:11] anyways, I need someone to say yes or no to adding this package to exceptions [23:11] so Ill give up for tonight [23:11] night night [23:19] good night