[20:56] <edve98> does anybody know if it is ok to report a papercut upstream if I can reproduce it myself?
[20:57] <edve98> I'm trying to triage it and it seems like it would save quite a lot of time. But guide says that original poster should report it himself
[21:10] <hjd> edve98: Presumably the idea is that the original reporter knows most about the issue and is best fit to forward it. Though, if you are able to reproduce it and upstream doesn't know about it already, it might be better that someone forwards it. :)
[21:10] <hjd> edve98: Do you have a bug number?
[21:17] <hjd> (In any case, I would check the upstream bug tracker if they already have a corresponding bug report for the problem already)
[21:18] <adueppen> hjd: I also have a question, when improving a bug report marked as incomplete, should I just edit the original report with the steps to reproduce?
[21:23] <hjd> adueppen: Depends on the original report. Do you have an example bug number? (Did you report it originally?)
[21:23] <adueppen> hjd: I was not the one to report it originally, it's #1447038
[21:24] <hggdh> bug 1447038
[21:24] <adueppen> oh right I keep forgetting how to activate the bot
[21:27] <hggdh> adueppen: if it is the same issue, feel free to add the steps to reproduce in the bug.
[21:27] <hggdh> huh. seems I conflated two questions in one almost correct answer
[21:28] <hggdh> hjd: the above applies to you (mostly)
[21:28] <hggdh> ah. I give up. hjd -- disregard
[21:29]  * hjd is confused
[21:29] <hggdh> hjd: awfully sorry. Seems I need sleep
[21:29] <hggdh> but the answer is, still, correct :-)
[21:30] <hjd> Ok :)
[21:30] <edve98> hjd: it's #1490189
[21:30] <hjd> bug 1490189
[21:30] <hggdh> TZ lag, and all that
[21:32] <hjd> edve98: Hm.. look at the merge request. It looks like this has been fixed upstream (and in Ubuntu too), though I don't have time to double check right now.
[21:32] <edve98> hjd: it's still present on Ubuntu atm
[21:34] <hggdh> edve98: which Ubuntu version?
[21:34] <hjd> Looks like the patch should work at least. Did you check with the latest version?
[21:35] <edve98> whoops, I forgot to do that
[21:36] <edve98> hjd: if it won't be present, what should I do then?
[21:39] <hjd> edve98: If the bug is fixed in a newer version available in Ubuntu, it is considered Fix Released. Depending on the severity, it might also need to be fixed for older versions in currently supported releases of Ubuntu. See examples/more information https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Fixed_in_Development_release_while_still_existing_in_a_previous_release
[21:40] <hjd> When it comes to an url in a manpage, that's probably low priority, so I don't think it will be fixed in older releases as well.
[21:40] <hjd> (I've started watching a movie now, so I might take some time responding)