[00:00] <Guest50982> new to linux. is this better than windows?
[00:01] <Guest50982> hello???
[00:02] <Guest50982> (. )( .)
[00:04] <legg>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER legg pluhbzikrlkz
[00:07] <HappyHippie> will my USB TV Capture Tuner Card work in a linux Virtual Machine running Windows 10??
[00:08] <Nenis43> Outstanding customer service from Amazon. They are refunding me 100% on my opened computer.
[00:08] <ikonia> Nenis43: not really something this channel is interested in
[00:08] <ikonia> Nenis43: it's for ubuntu support discussion
[00:09] <Nenis43> ikonia: Yes, but I like to spread the word about positive CS.
[00:09] <ikonia> Nenis43: we don't want to hear it here please.
[00:12] <sw0rdfish> !kde
[00:16] <zaphod_b> Does anybody know how to set a bash alias to list all my files when I cd into a directory?
[00:17] <Dylan____> Hey guys
[00:18] <lnxmen> zaphod_b: try to write bash script that takes an argument as path to folder
[00:18] <lnxmen> then cd to this folder and ls -al
[00:18] <zaphod_b> lnxmen ok cool thank you!
[00:19] <nicomachus> zaphod_b: no... just go to ~/.bash_aliases and add the line ' alias cd="ls -la" '
[00:20] <nicomachus> cd="cd ls -la"
[00:20] <zaphod_b> nicomachus: would that work though?
[00:20] <zaphod_b> ahh the second makes more sense
[00:20] <zaphod_b> cool cool
[00:20] <EriC^^> zaphod_b: alias cdls='cd; ls -lh'
[00:20] <Sebastien> ty
[00:20] <zaphod_b> Yeah my original thought was to set alias cdls='cd && ls- la'
[00:20] <nicomachus> EriC^^'s is better, zaphod_b
[00:21] <EriC^^> actually it won't stay cd 'd i just tried it
[00:21] <EriC^^> function cdls() { cd $1; ls -l; }
[00:22] <EriC^^> zaphod_b: ^
[00:22] <lnxmen> EriC^^: exactly
[00:23] <zaphod_b> that works exactly how I would have liked it to
[00:23] <zaphod_b> awesome
[00:23] <zaphod_b> Thanks everyone
[00:23] <sw0rdfish> is there need for a firewall when using ubuntu
[00:23] <sw0rdfish> or an anti-virus for that matter
[00:24] <EriC^^> zaphod_b: this is better function cdls() { cd "$1" && ls -l; }
[00:24] <ikonia> sw0rdfish: wasn't this just answred for you in detail in ##linux ?
[00:24] <EriC^^> it takes into consideration white spaces, and doesn't ls if it couldn't cd
[00:24] <k1l_> sw0rdfish: no, there isnt
[00:25] <zaphod_b> EriC^^: ohh awesome thanks. I had already edited the ; to && but taking into account whitespace is a good idea
[00:27] <voyager_> hi guys
[00:27] <daftykins> hello
[00:29] <sw0rdfish> ikonia not firewall question
[00:29] <sw0rdfish> anti-virus question yes, but hey for either of those two, ubuntu experts might have something else to say
[00:30] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: no and no
[00:30] <daftykins> (if behind a NAT firewall router already)
[00:30] <sw0rdfish> alrighty.
[00:31] <sw0rdfish> then I shall proceed to install kubuntu for my dad's friend without any security software I guess.
[00:31] <daftykins> converting others, ooh mistakes will come :)
[00:31] <k1l_> educate them to keep their system safe.
[00:34] <HappyHippie> will my USB TV Capture Tuner Card work in a linux Virtual Machine running Windows 10??
[00:35] <tomreyn> HappyHippie: if that virtualization supports usb device passthrough then i don't see why not, assuming it works on windows 10 natively.
[00:36] <daftykins> HappyHippie: it's not clear what you claim the host or guest OS will be
[00:36] <sw0rdfish> indeed ^
[00:36] <tomreyn> i intereptreted it as ubuntu linux host, windows 10 guest OS
[00:36] <tomreyn> *interpreted
[00:36] <daftykins> that's nice, but lets focus on what's certain ;)
[00:37] <sw0rdfish> I suppose kubuntu 14.04.3 is most recommended.
[00:37] <daftykins> you might as well wait for the next LTS now ;)
[00:37] <daftykins> depends on the spec of the target system
[00:37] <tomreyn> "most recommended" by whom?
[00:40] <sw0rdfish> daftykins its a bit old like maybe 3-5 years old and its got 2GB of ram with an intel celeron something cpu
[00:40] <sw0rdfish> tomreyn by the majority
[00:40] <daftykins> ugh
[00:40] <daftykins> i think KDE would be too much for that
[00:40] <tomreyn> of? based on statistics generated how and by whom?
[00:41] <sw0rdfish> in fact I'm thinking I might have to turn off the fancy kde effects so that it works smoothly on the laptop
[00:41] <sw0rdfish> oh
[00:41] <k1l_> sw0rdfish: LTS is fine, since you dont have to upgrade every 6months. but the desktop to choose is in most times a matter of taste. besides having slow hardware
[00:42] <k1l_> sw0rdfish: look at xubuntu or better Lubuntu if its about lightweight
[00:42] <sw0rdfish> k1l_ slow/old hardware plus its for a senior citizen whom I want to be able to handle the system with the GUI
[00:43] <sw0rdfish> tbh I'm trying to avoid installing windows 7 for him, want him to try with linux
[00:43] <sw0rdfish> without virus/trojan headaches
[00:43] <ikonia> sw0rdfish: this was all explained in ##linux
[00:44] <sw0rdfish> no it wasn't, only thing that was settled in ##linux was that I don't need an anti-virus for linux and that firefox + adblocker should be enough.
[00:45] <daftykins> there aren't any such headaches if you set it up properly ;)
[00:45] <sw0rdfish> daftykins, if I turn off some fancy kde graphical effects, can the 2GB laptop handle it smoothly do you think?
[00:45] <daftykins> KDE is a mistake imo
[00:45] <k1l_> and tell the user not to install stuff from website or other untrusted repos if he doesnt know that code.
[00:46] <sw0rdfish> 95% of the times he only uses skype and facebook
[00:46] <k1l_> kde is heavy. if you are worried about perfomrance then see my last advice on that
[00:46] <Dylan____> When i boot into ubuntu i get this blackscreen then followed by what looks like a foot like the gnome thing dots
[00:46] <HappyHippie> regarding VM .....can you resize the screen on virtual machine? also can i make virtual machine always on top?
[00:46] <sw0rdfish> ok then, I'll install xubuntu for him, already have the .iso file for it too :)
[00:47] <Dylan____> Should be able to happyhippie
[00:47] <Dylan____> Though gotta install virtualbox guest additions
[00:47] <Dylan____> And reboot
[00:47] <Dylan____> Should have a screen like the size of a monitor
[00:47] <Dylan____> Sw0fdfish do you know how to burn it etc?
[00:47] <daftykins> HappyHippie: we're still waiting on you asking the first question more clearly.
[00:48] <sw0rdfish> Dylan____ yes I do.
[00:48] <daftykins> Dylan____: did nomodeset help?
[00:48] <sw0rdfish> thanks for asking Dylan____ :)
[00:49] <Dylan____> Dafty had to reinstall the whole ubuntu os
[00:49] <Dylan____> It was too much honestly
[00:49] <HappyHippie> daftykins, i want to run windows 10 in a linux virtual machine
[00:49] <Dylan____> Like i stuffed something up
[00:49] <daftykins> Dylan____: that's not a "yes i tried nomodeset" or "no i did not" :)
[00:49] <Dylan____> I did
[00:49] <k1l_> HappyHippie: the linux is too much in that sentence.
[00:49] <Dylan____> And it worked when it booted it and things
[00:49] <Dylan____> Then when i would boot it without nomodeset i got the low graphics system stuff noveau errors
[00:50] <daftykins> HappyHippie: just VM, or Windows VM... it's not a Linux VM
[00:50] <Dylan____> So i just reinstalled ubuntu
[00:50] <Dylan____> Happyhippie you will need windows 10 iso from microsofts website
[00:50] <daftykins> Dylan____: so you need to install with a propietary nvidia driver to make use on this one, by the sounds of it
[00:50] <daftykins> Dylan____: that's not the question.
[00:51] <Dylan____> Listen last night i was helped alright i got to the point where it was too complicTed and reinstalled ubuntu
[00:51] <Dylan____> Because when i boot automatically the drivers set to xorg
[00:51] <Dylan____> For some reason?
[00:51] <Dylan____> Brb mac charger
[00:51] <daftykins> which is the whole point behind booting with nomodeset, to avoid that - then install the proper nvidia driver
[00:52] <daftykins> Dylan____: own up to what you don't understand, don't just keep inanely repeating the same statements
[00:52] <Dylan____> Can you not try and criticise me off what i cant do ?
[00:52] <Dylan____> Im not experieced with ubuntu
[00:52] <daftykins> i think you're taking this too personally and totally flying off the handle
[00:52] <daftykins> calm down.
[00:52] <Dylan____> Never had been and only got into using it this year
[00:53] <Dylan____> Im been a windows person since i was born
[00:53] <k1l_> no need to get personal in here.
[00:53] <k1l_> !nomodeset
[00:53] <Dylan____> Omg...
[00:53] <Dylan____> Sigh
[00:54] <k1l_> that is a typical solution for issues with drivers and not beeing able to boot
[00:54] <Dylan____> Listen im not going to tell you again i have already reinstalled ubuntu on my own mac alright
[00:54] <daftykins> yeah we already had that convo, k1l_ :)
[00:54] <Dylan____> I cant take back what im done
[00:54] <daftykins> ugh, mac
[00:54] <OerHeks> he disabled that, and now complaints, not sure what Dylan____  issue is
[00:54] <Dylan____> Yeah exactly
[00:54] <Dylan____> I got no issue
[00:54] <Dylan____> Im saying yestaday i screwed up
[00:54] <daftykins> so go back...
[00:54] <OerHeks> oh, offtopic talk
[00:54] <Dylan____> I had the black screen had to tap shift get into root terminal mount the filesystem
[00:55] <Dylan____> Then i deleted nvidia-common or something
[00:55] <Dylan____> And i stuffed up there
[00:55] <k1l_> Dylan____: listen! if you cant state clear what the issue is and people are asking you for more and clear infos you should tone down your attitude asap.
[00:55] <sw0rdfish> is there a program that can be used to open your hotmail/live email account without using a web browser?
[00:55] <sw0rdfish> I think there is one for gmail, though.
[00:55] <Dylan____> You trying to get lippy with me?
[00:56] <Ben64> sw0rdfish: thunderbird, evolution maybe
[00:56] <tomreyn> sw0rdfish: this is usually referred to as an "e-mail client"
[00:56] <tomreyn> your parents used to use such software before everything had to work on your web browser
[00:56] <Dylan____> Anyways
[00:57] <Dylan____> Back to what i needed before
[00:57] <faLUCE> hello. I created user "demo" with  "adduser demo". Then, after following a bad manual, I typed "gpasswd -a demo sudo"  ... After that, I can't write to my home directory anymore... how can I fix?
[00:57] <Dylan____> Is there a lightweight flash player?
[00:57] <faLUCE> I messed up something but dunno what exactly
[00:57] <Dylan____> As in like browser
[00:57] <nestor_> go back
[00:57] <nestor_> no funciono :(
[00:58] <k1l_> flash is not lightweight. and since adobe stopped linux support for flash your best bet is to use chrome with build in pepperflash
[00:58] <Dylan____> Ahh ok
[00:58] <Dylan____> I have mozilla firefox
[00:58] <daftykins> Dylan____: i and likely other volunteers are now going to ignore you for the fact that you are acting like a British lager-lout out for a fight on a Friday night, dial back the silly attitude
[00:58] <sw0rdfish> there still is MS Outlook tomreyn
[00:58] <sw0rdfish> !pinta
[00:58] <Dylan____> Excuse me but im australian
[00:58] <Dylan____> And second of all im not looking for a fight on the net
[00:59] <sw0rdfish> all hail the aussies!
[00:59] <Dylan____> Im here to get help and support
[00:59] <daftykins> Dylan____: then cut the drama
[00:59] <tomreyn> sw0rdfish: i can't find that in ubuntu software repositories for some reason
[00:59] <Dylan____> And if your going to support me like that then i best say i probably leave this chat
[00:59] <Dylan____> And get help on the fourms instead
[00:59] <sw0rdfish> tomreyn it only works on windows
[00:59] <Ben64> faLUCE: nothing you showed would prevent you from writing to your home directory
[00:59] <tomreyn> faLUCE: the gpasswd command you ran did not create the situation you are discussing
[01:00] <tomreyn> sw0rdfish: oh then i guess that's off-topic here
[01:00] <faLUCE> tomreyn: what could create it? or, better, what can I do to fix it?
[01:00] <Ben64> faLUCE: need to know what you did first
[01:00] <sw0rdfish> tomreyn, true.
[01:00] <k1l_> sw0rdfish: you mean: thunderbird?
[01:01] <faLUCE> Ben64: I really did not do anything else than installing packages with apt-get (apache, mysql and something other)
[01:01] <tomreyn> faLUCE: there are too many ways you could have broken things, it's not possible to give advice unless we know what you did or what your current configzurations are.
[01:01] <ikonia> faLUCE: you'll do well to focus on one channel
[01:02] <ikonia> faLUCE: you're asking this in multiple places and geting a lot of info thrown at you
[01:02] <ikonia> pick one and work it through with them
[01:03] <sw0rdfish> k1l_ sir yes sir, thunderbird looks good, Kontact on KDE has more options it looks (from the screenshots) but for what my dad's friend needs thunderbird is more than enough cuz all he needs is the inbox :D
[01:03] <faLUCE> ikonia: let's try with chmod and chown
[01:03] <k1l_> sw0rdfish: i dont think any program got more options than thunderbird.
[01:04] <Dylan____> Geary?
[01:05] <sw0rdfish> k1l_, I see.
[01:05] <Dylan____> sw0rdfish: evolution?
[01:06] <Dylan____> Sw0rdfish try those sylpheed
[01:06] <Dylan____> Thunderbirds probably the most used
[01:07] <Dylan____> Those are just some examples
[01:07] <daftykins> bear in mind Thunderbird is getting abandoned soon enough
[01:07] <Dylan____> Really?
[01:07] <daftykins> mail clients are so 90s :D
[01:07] <Dylan____> Never heard that
[01:07] <Dylan____> How come?
[01:07] <tomreyn> it's very unlikely to be abandoned
[01:08] <tomreyn> surely ubuntu packages will continue to exist. just the upstream maintainer may change.
[01:08] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[01:08] <tomreyn> and maybe the product title, too.
[01:09] <Dylan____> Kinda sad if mozilla is going to abadon thunderbird
[01:10] <daftykins> no, Mozilla are handing the project over to someone else
[01:10] <daftykins> packaging isn't relevant to that
[01:11] <Dylan____> Daftykins about nvidia drivers can i choose whatever one i want when im logged in then when i say shutdown will that use that driver?
[01:11] <Dylan____> Cause im always had the xorg opensource driver the default for some reason
[01:12] <sw0rdfish> thanks Dylan____
[01:12] <daftykins> like i said earlier when you got really defensive, you install the proprietary nvidia one to use that one
[01:13] <Dylan____> But by default there already installed
[01:13] <Dylan____> No problems sw0rdfish
[01:13] <k1l_> no
[01:13] <Dylan____> Really?
[01:13] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[01:13] <Dylan____> Cause i see my nvidia drivers listed but i havnt installed them
[01:13] <daftykins> no, the open source driver nouveau is.
[01:13] <k1l_> if you dont install prop. drivers they cant be used by default
[01:14] <Dylan____> But i dont know if im installed them
[01:14] <daftykins> please try not to spam the channel with many enter key presses.
[01:14] <k1l_> Dylan____: where do you see that its using the prop. nvidia driver?
[01:14] <daftykins> it's pretty obvious whether you have or not, because you would have run a command or selected to install something called nvidia...
[01:14] <Dylan____> All i know is when i go to the additonal drivers tab it comes up with the 5 nvidia drivers that can be used but have no idea if its installed or not
[01:15] <daftykins> no they are not, those are offers
[01:15] <k1l_> Dylan____: that is only listing the drivers from the repo. if you dont check them there they are not installed.
[01:15] <Dylan____> Alright can you help me install the drivers please
[01:15] <k1l_> click on one driver in that listing
[01:15] <Dylan____> Ok
[01:16] <Dylan____> Currently its using the xorg server
[01:16] <k1l_> that is what we told you.
[01:16] <daftykins> nouveau driver, as mentioned above.
[01:17] <Dylan____> Ok
[01:17] <daftykins> essentially the last 10 minutes have been a huge circle where we told you what was what immediately
[01:17] <Dylan____> Yes but this is all new to me
[01:17] <daftykins> sorry, 35 mins :P
[01:17] <daftykins> yeah but instead of asking what you think is the situation, you should've started with "i'm looking at the list in the additional drivers window..."
[01:17] <Dylan____> So those additonal drivers arnt installed yet right?
[01:17] <daftykins> i'm not going to repeat myself.
[01:18] <k1l_> Dylan____: so i really suggest you admit yourself that you are a beginner now, again. since the "i use windows since 100 years" is not helping much now.
[01:18] <Kak> good evening
[01:18] <daftykins> hi
[01:19] <k1l_> Dylan____: we answered you that already. its just a listing about what drivers are offered in the ubuntu repos. so mark the nvidia driver you want to use. then click ok(or acccept or such) and it will install that driver
[01:19] <Dylan____> im done honestly if you are not willing to support me with infomation with what im asking well like i said this is a channel that has people not willing to give there help to people im going to leave the chat now and go on the fourms ...
[01:20] <k1l_> Dylan____: stop making drama!
[01:20] <Ben64> some people don't want to read, you guys tried
[01:20] <daftykins> first facepalm of the year.
[01:21] <daftykins> HNY btw guys \o
[01:22] <ruach> hi, who has a link to installing ubuntu on mac wiki please
[01:22] <k1l_> enough internet for today. i am going to sleep :)
[01:23] <daftykins> !mac
[01:24] <ruach> thanks for the headstart on the install, much appreciate it
[01:25] <KimmoNO> Why has not Exim in Ubuntu 12.04 not been updated since december 2012? I thought security vulnerabilities would be patched? Or am I missing something?
[01:25] <daftykins> how are you checking?
[01:25] <daftykins> i'd be willing to bet on a repo fail
[01:26] <KimmoNO> Here: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exim4
[01:26] <daftykins> right but on your actual 12.04 install, how are you checking?
[01:27] <daftykins> maybe a specific major version has been moved on from since 2012
[01:27] <daftykins> if you want newer, time to upgrade that LTS.
[01:27] <KimmoNO> exim -bV and looking at build date. Also checked the executable.
[01:28] <KimmoNO> daftykins: Yes, clearly. But I was sure that security vulnerabilities would be patched.
[01:29] <tomreyn> KimmoNO: the application may report the same version as the original source code of this application did when release. use "dpkg -l exim4" to review the actual ubuntu patch level.
[01:29] <daftykins> !info exim precise
[01:29] <daftykins> !info exim4 precise
[01:30] <sw0rdfish> I should format a new installation in ext4 right?
[01:30] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: yes but you wouldn't have been asked that
[01:31] <tomreyn> KimmoNO: 3ubuntu3.2 here points to the ubuntu patch level, those are bug fixes and - more likely - security patches made by debian and ubuntu folks to ensure these packages remain secure, even though they are based on an old release.
[01:32] <tomreyn> KimmoNO: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/exim4 points at the source code of the official ("upstream") Exim release, it does not show you the patches which were applied to the Ubuntu packages.
[01:32] <KimmoNO> right
[01:33] <sw0rdfish> daftykins I chose to do manual partitioning, only because for some reason I thought of separating / and /home... but this is for a senior citizen with not much to do except skype, facebook, thunderbird, chrome or chromium usage
[01:33] <daftykins> only 16 months left for precise now though :)
[01:33] <sw0rdfish> so maybe I should just let it auto install things and choose the option to install the system with LVM
[01:33] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: yeah don't need to know the target user every time ;)
[01:33] <daftykins> what size disk?
[01:33] <sw0rdfish> 250GB
[01:33] <KimmoNO> daftykins: Yes, I also need something better than TLS 1.0 :p
[01:33] <daftykins> i would avoid LVM and do a 20GB / , swap and rest /
[01:34] <sw0rdfish> ugh
[01:34] <lubuntu> irc.explosionirc.net
[01:34] <tomreyn> KimmoNO: sorry, it actually does, in the "precise-security" branch, which indeed has no commits since 2012.
[01:35] <sw0rdfish> not sure what you mean there daftykins buddy. soooo, 20GB for / and like 3GB for swap and the rest for /home ?
[01:35]  * daftykins facepalms
[01:35] <KimmoNO> http://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-10919/product_id-19563/version_id-137215/year-2014/opec-1/Exim-Exim-4.76.html
[01:35] <daftykins> yeah i meant /home on the end there.
[01:36] <sw0rdfish> :D
[01:37] <sw0rdfish> oh an idea just came to me as you mentioned swap, daftykins, can't I make enough swap like 5GB or whatever so that KDE can run smoothly on a 2GB(RAM) laptop ?
[01:37] <daftykins> that's not even vaguely what swap is.
[01:37] <sw0rdfish> ok
[01:37] <sw0rdfish> if I recall correctly, swap is used by the system when the actual RAM usage reaches 100%?
[01:38] <daftykins> yep, or to switch out programs that don't need frequent access
[01:38] <daftykins> but because that's on a rubbish mechanical HDD in the system you're dealing with, it can't polish a turd
[01:38] <daftykins> (i.e. make that thing any better)
[01:39] <sw0rdfish> so it can't be useful for the situation I described, like if KDE reaches 1.5GB of RAM usage other programs like thunderbird, chromium could maybe use swap?
[01:39] <sw0rdfish> ahh.
[01:40] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: if you ever used a celeron based computer that's run out of RAM and is dipping into swap on a mechanical disk, you would suddenly develop an urge to kill
[01:40] <daftykins> it's a horrific experience
[01:40] <sw0rdfish> wow, haha
[01:40] <sw0rdfish> oooooKAY then...
[01:41] <tomreyn> KimmoNO: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-2957.html
[01:42] <sw0rdfish> daftykins you do know they still sell intel celeron based laptops
[01:42] <tomreyn> KimmoNO: the other CVE patch is missing though http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2014/CVE-2014-2972.html
[01:42] <KimmoNO> Yes, that is what I found too.
[01:42] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: a celeron from today has a different use-case than the first ever that came out, so you can't apply a statement from one to the other without details
[01:43] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: this is also completely off topic and tiresome now :/
[01:43] <weiyang> Hi, all, I tried to use tweak tool to exchange ctrl and cap on ubuntu 15.10, but seems not work.
[01:43] <azure32>  /part ubuntu
[01:44] <Onions420> What a troll
[01:44] <sw0rdfish> daftykins well holy moly I'm sorry for making you tired bro ... wouldn't want that now.
[01:45] <Onions420> sw0rdfish: How experienced of a user are you?
[01:46] <daftykins> that's not what tiresome means :)
[01:46] <xJeremyCx> hey guys
[01:46] <xJeremyCx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14364895/ <- is my fdisk output
[01:47] <xJeremyCx> why does it has 2 partitions  of the same size?
[01:47] <daftykins> sudo parted -l ; would be nicer
[01:48] <daftykins> nope 4 is an extended partition, logical drives exist within that. likely this is something like a Sony or Acer where the disk came split into C: and D: in Windows to begin with
[01:49] <xJeremyCx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14364917/
[01:49] <sw0rdfish> Onions420 not much hardcore experience here
[01:50] <xJeremyCx> my laptop came with 2 partitions. one for windows. I splited another partition for ubuntu
[01:51] <xJeremyCx> I'd like to know which one is my primary partition(the one with windows)
[01:51] <kenweill> sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified
[01:51] <kenweill> Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
[01:51] <kenweill>            Card-2: NVIDIA GF119M [GeForce 610M]
[01:51] <kenweill>            X.Org 1.17.1 drivers intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution 1366x768@60.0hz
[01:51] <kenweill>            GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile GLX Version 3.0 Mesa 10.5.9
[01:52] <rww> xJeremyCx: 1 is a vendor recovery partition, 2 is your windows boot partition, 3 is probably your main windows partition. 4 is a container for 5, 6, and 7. 5 is a second windows partition, 6 is your linux data partition, 7 is your linux swap partition
[01:52] <xJeremyCx> thanks
[01:52] <daftykins> xJeremyCx: it's pretty obvious if you read the sizes and file systems
[01:52] <rww> i'd imagine 1, 2, and 3 came with your computer.
[01:53] <daftykins> and a 4 which is no more, i'd wager :)
[01:53] <rww> wouldn't surprise me, vendors tend to do that these days ;(
[01:53] <xJeremyCx> :3
[01:53] <daftykins> it's good, data storage away from Windows :D anyway /ot with me
[01:53] <xJeremyCx> it is possible to fix bad sectors in the windows partition?
[01:54] <daftykins> no, that's a failed disk drive.
[01:54] <daftykins> you need to replace it
[01:54] <xJeremyCx> :\
[01:54] <Onions420> sw0rdfish: I feel you man
[01:54] <daftykins> show us the SMART info? "sudo apt-get install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[01:54] <xJeremyCx> how much is a 500GB hdd nowdays?
[01:54] <rww> xJeremyCx: laptop or desktop sized?
[01:54] <xJeremyCx> laptop
[01:54] <xJeremyCx> it's from 2011
[01:54] <daftykins> i don't know where in the world you are for an appropriate currency.
[01:54] <Onions420> xJeremyCx: I'd say around 30 USD
[01:54] <daftykins> you wouldn't replace it like for like
[01:55] <xJeremyCx> thanks, Onions420
[01:55] <daftykins> xJeremyCx: run the above :)
[01:56] <xJeremyCx> here you go
[01:56] <xJeremyCx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14365008/
[01:56] <daftykins> xJeremyCx: mmm it's not so bad right now, but you should backup your data and prepare for the worst.
[01:57] <xJeremyCx> :\
[01:57] <daftykins> it could snowball
[01:57] <daftykins> if you keep using it, you may even cease to be able to boot one OS or the other in time
[01:58] <Onions420> You should always have a backup if you have important stuff
[01:58] <xJeremyCx> windows was extremely laggy, and the event app keeps logging that there are bad blocks
[01:58] <xJeremyCx> I ran "badblocks -sv /dev/sda" and there were 13 errors :\
[01:58] <xJeremyCx> there is no way to fix it?
[01:58] <Onions420> xJeremyCx: I'm going to be a little generic here, have you defragged your hdd?
[01:59] <xJeremyCx> yep
[01:59] <Onions420> xJeremyCx: Disk check?
[01:59] <xJeremyCx> I ran chkdsk on windows, it said there was no error
[01:59] <ice9> how to reflect changes by xbindkey like sound volume and screen brightness in the unity settings slider?
[01:59] <daftykins> you can't fix a failing drive, like i said already
[01:59] <ruach> is there an iso download for mac under ubuntu/downloads?
[02:00] <Onions420> xJeremyCx: Yeah daftykins is right if the drive is failing there's nothing to do but replace it
[02:00] <xJeremyCx> oh shet ._.
[02:00] <xJeremyCx> fml
[02:00] <tomreyn> ruach: what is an "iso download for mac"?
[02:00] <sw0rdfish> should the type of new partitions for / and /home be Primary or Logical
[02:00] <Onions420> ruach: You want a copy of mac OS X?
[02:02] <tomreyn> xJeremyCx: if you can afford it, do yourself a favor and replace your hdd by an ssd
[02:03] <tomreyn> xJeremyCx: it will feel like a whole new computer (almost)
[02:03] <daftykins> Onions420: it's not appropriate to be throwing around software illegally in any channel on freenode.
[02:03] <sw0rdfish> goign with logical cuz this isn't windows :)
[02:03] <xJeremyCx> ssd is quite expensive, and I don't know if it can fit into my laptop or not
[02:03] <xJeremyCx> do they have the same size?
[02:03] <daftykins> yes
[02:03] <tomreyn> xJeremyCx: there are both HDDs and SSDs which fit into laptops, yes
[02:03] <daftykins> ##hardware can help you with more since that's off topic here.
[02:04] <Onions420> daftykins: I just asked, never offered any links. I know the rules man, and I have some morality
[02:04] <Berzerker> hey couple questions for anyone who can help, first, my GRUB seems to be ignoring any timeout settings, pastebin of default/grub here http://pastebin.com/LWmbH0Sz
[02:04] <daftykins> Onions420: perhaps consider PM in future then :)
[02:04] <ruach> tomreyn: what about .img is that for a mac ?
[02:04] <tomreyn> ruach: ".img" usually refers to a file name extension. it is not a well defined format.
[02:05] <xJeremyCx> thanks for your suggestions
[02:05] <xJeremyCx> you guys helped me a lot ;)
[02:05] <Bashing-om> sw0rdfish:
[02:05] <daftykins> there are channels for mac talk, you can take that topic to them :)
[02:06] <sw0rdfish> Bashing-om ?
[02:07] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: / would be primary and swap and /home could be logical, but it doesn't matter really
[02:07] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: also it's not Windows, but MBR partition table talk which is standard across both OSs.
[02:08] <daftykins> on an MBR formatted disk, primary, extended and logical drive partitions are standard
[02:08] <toggafasimdh> why am i banned from freenode?
[02:08] <daftykins> toggafasimdh: couldn't care less, go ask #freenode
[02:08] <compdoc> we dont like you
[02:08] <compdoc> jk
[02:08] <toggafasimdh> no i mean from the entire network
[02:08] <Berzerker> toggafasimdh: you're connected right now, you're not banned
[02:09] <daftykins> toggafasimdh: yes, go ask THEM.
[02:09] <toggafasimdh> Berzerker: are you sure you're not banned?
[02:09] <Berzerker> daftykins: any ideas? checked for recordfail in grubenv and nothing there either
[02:09] <toggafasimdh> isn't this where all the banned people go?
[02:09] <daftykins> toggafasimdh: don't be stupid, read the topic.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> sw0rdfish: 'logical' parition are in the "container" extended . one may have 4 primary partitions  in MBR scheme . One of those primary partiions may be a logical one containing the  logical partitions .
[02:09] <daftykins> Berzerker: sorry, bed time for me
[02:11] <sw0rdfish> I see.
[02:11] <Berzerker> Bashing-om: any ideas?
[02:11] <ruach> how do i find the mac talk ? i go xchat ->network list  ->to where for help with the ubuntu install?
[02:11] <daftykins> !alis | ruach
[02:12] <daftykins> no i just meant to talk about mac things it'd be a mac channel, ubuntu support is still here
[02:12] <choki> Hi can someone help me pls? Im trying to install latest emacs 24.5 but  I always get the error about "unmet dependencies" http://ix.io/n6A
[02:13] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: I will look and see what I can see .
[02:14] <ruach> !alis
[02:14] <daftykins> no you don't type the same trigger again...
[02:14] <HappyHippie> hi.. what is better to use.. vm ware? Or virtual box???
[02:14] <daftykins> HappyHippie: virtualbox is open source, vmware is not
[02:14] <daftykins> use what you want.
[02:15] <daftykins> HappyHippie: your plan of having a Windows VM atop Linux to use a TV card is insane, however.
[02:16] <HappyHippie> why so daftykins , dont you think it will work??
[02:16] <daftykins> it's a ridiculous plan
[02:16] <HappyHippie> why?
[02:17] <daftykins> two OSs to use a piece of hardware - it screams no.
[02:17] <Berzerker> daftykins: so what happend to going to bed?
[02:17] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: " #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[02:17] <HappyHippie> will linux and windows 10 vbox share hardware.. ie soundcard?
[02:17] <daftykins> Berzerker: it's all a conspiracy, i'm really just avoiding helping you specifically
[02:18] <Berzerker> Bashing-om: I tried it with all configurations of that line uncommented, removed and set to false, and none of them worked
[02:18] <Berzerker> daftykins: certainly seems like it
[02:18] <daftykins> wow you didn't notice that was a joke did you?
[02:18] <Berzerker> I did, just pointing out what I'm thinking
[02:18] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: " #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true " se tot false, and " GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=10 ' system default is 30 = why change it ?
[02:19] <Berzerker> Bashing-om: it not being 30 is not my issue, it doesn't have any timeout at all
[02:19] <Berzerker> Bashing-om: sits at GRUB until I select an OS
[02:19] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: Single ubuntu operating system installed ?
[02:19] <Berzerker> and windows
[02:20] <daftykins> i don't know whether to ignore you or cringe :(
[02:20] <Kalov> how do i format a HDD connected to my ubuntu computer?
[02:20] <daftykins> run gparted
[02:21] <Berzerker> daftykins: I mean, if you're upset that I didn't think your joke was hilarious, then *shrug*
[02:22] <daftykins> nah i just think you're an idiot for crying i wasn't helping
[02:22] <daftykins> baaai
[02:22] <Berzerker> lol k
[02:22] <sw0rdfish> Kalov, yes, gparted is good for that. You should be able to find nice and easy to follow guides via google. :)
[02:23] <cfhowlett> !format | Kalov
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: Standard to offer the choice of which operating sysyem to boot. I would not recommend a setting of '0' . That might be trouble to deal with in times of trouble .
[02:24] <Berzerker> Bashing-om: it's not 0...
[02:24] <Berzerker> it's 10
[02:24] <Berzerker> more than enough time for me to hit a key and switch something
[02:26] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: And ... you do not have a countdown to boot the default system from the 10 seconds ?
[02:27] <Berzerker> Bashing-om: correct
[02:27] <Berzerker> no countdown, sits forever
[02:28] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: lemme hunt .. I am aware that is a setting  to enable the countdown .
[02:29] <squinty> fwiw, i have experienced this after a dirty shut down   ie  power outage or lockup etc.  after rebooting and a clean shutdown, grub will boot as normal.
[02:31] <texla> Ubuntu 14.04  I installed an apps in unity a launcher shows on screen but able to lock it open for future use
[02:34] <xJeremyCx> hey guys, is there any software which allows me to transfer files over lan from ubuntu to a windows desktop?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> Berzerker: "/etc/default/grub and add the variable GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT. >> For >=1, menu will display for the specified number of seconds. " looks to me that this setting disables the countdown .
[02:34] <cfhowlett> !samba | xJeremyCx
[02:35] <xJeremyCx> thx
[02:35] <Berzerker> Bashing-om: the setting adds a timeout if the system records a boot failure, by default it's not there so it doesn't put in a timeout. that's not causing the issue
[02:41] <ruach> samba have info on pairing ubuntu across to windows, wirelessly?
[02:49] <cfhowlett> !samba | ruach
[02:52] <nicomachus> how can I figure out what is running on a particular..socket?
[02:53] <nicomachus> when starting mpd I get the error: socket: Failed to bind to '[::]:6600': Address already in use
[02:54] <ruach> may i please have advice on moving to a room i found with alis?
[02:54] <nicomachus> ruach: /join #newroomname
[02:55] <ruach> youre all much helpful, its been entertaining ; )
[03:05] <TomsDinner> Hi, is it illegal to convince people to microwave they're apple products?
[03:07] <nicomachus> !guidelines > TomsDinner
[03:07] <cfhowlett> TomsDinner, idiotic questions quickly lead to idiots getting kicked out of here.  check your guidelines
[03:08] <TomsDinner> Okay thanks, but how was that an idiotic question?
[03:09] <cfhowlett> .... and  you are added to /ignore ....
[03:09] <TomsDinner> K thanks, I hope ubuntu dies
[03:17] <tambu> I'm having a slowdown with systemd on bootup. according to systemd it takes 2mins+ for ifup-wait-all-auto.service to start up. The part I don't get is that my network/interfaces file is all static there is no DHCP.. so how can it be hung up like this?
[03:23] <joeb3_> tambu, make sure your hostname is listed in /etc/hosts
[03:24] <tambu> hrm it's not.. but I just found that if I blank out the eth1.2 interface config in my network/interfaces the hang goes away..
[03:26] <C0nfuseki> Thining: Hey there... I recently saw a video regarding booting Linux hard-drive in another computer. And I want to know if anyone here has had experience with changing the filesystem's UUID in /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?  my /boot/grub/grub.cfg tells me that "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub"... So I'm looking for ideas on how
[03:26] <C0nfuseki>  to get the UUID from the device on the other computer and configure my settings so I can 'plug and play' between my machines if I wanted.
[03:28] <tomreyn> C0nfuseki: these UUIDs refer to the file systems. you do not need to change them to move a full disk from one computer to the other.
[03:28] <tomreyn> they are also not bound to specific hardware.
[03:29] <C0nfuseki> hmmm. okay; well, a youtube video seems to depict otherwise: www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lhqg_p21k
[03:30] <C0nfuseki> the guy takes his hardrive out and plugs it into another computer and it doesn't run. Was just checking how I should configure If i wanted to change.
[03:31] <tomreyn> this wouldn't be the first incident of someone on the internet being wrong. ;)
[03:31] <tomreyn> but i'm not saying he is, i'm not going to watch a 23m video to tell whether or not he is
[03:31] <C0nfuseki> no worries. that's fair enough.
[03:31] <tomreyn> it really depends on how you plan to be using the driver you want to swap
[03:31] <tomreyn> *drive
[03:32] <tomreyn> you didn't go into detail on this, yet
[03:32] <tomreyn> is this drive you mean to swap going to be the only one to be used on both computers?
[03:33] <tomreyn> are you going to boot off it?
[03:33] <C0nfuseki> yes. I would like to boot on another computer.
[03:33] <C0nfuseki> the same diskdrive.
[03:33] <tomreyn> will it just be an additional drive while you keep the 'main driver' in those computers at all time? things like these would be good to know.
[03:33] <tambu> joeb3_ unfortunately adding the hostname didn't resolve the issue with the boot hang
[03:34] <C0nfuseki> no. it would be a replacement.
[03:34] <tomreyn> if it'S the only disk drive on either comßputer then i would expect it to boot out of the box.
[03:34] <C0nfuseki> on a fresh OS install. yes.
[03:36] <C0nfuseki> i am was merely asking if anyone had to change their UUID to allow this; and if so, how they managed to do this. It appears that once a UUID is found, the kernel stubbornly tries to find it on boot.
[03:36] <C0nfuseki> *look for (i meant)
[03:37] <C0nfuseki> Thank you for your input, tomreyn.
[03:37] <Ben64> uuid has nothing to do with moving a drive into another system
[03:38] <tomreyn> C0nfuseki: so, you're asking about (1) how to edit grub configuration to boot a device with a different UUID than the ones found / generated during OS installation and (2) how to change UUIDs?
[03:38] <C0nfuseki> okay. thank you, anyway. :)
[03:38] <Guest98542> hola
[03:38] <tomreyn> hi Guest98542
[03:39] <tomreyn> !es | Guest98542
[03:39] <deostroll1> and I've also got another completely unrelated (to pitvi) issue - http://askubuntu.com/questions/701356/unable-to-change-the-graphics-driver
[03:39] <C0nfuseki> @tomreyn pretty much wanting to prevent a "unable to find root device" after boot.
[03:41] <tomreyn> C0nfuseki: with the use case you discussed so far I do not expect this to occur. If it does, please come back here and discuss your configuration in detail and get more support.
[03:41] <C0nfuseki> but people have suggested it might be another issue... I'm happy to drop the matter.
[03:41] <C0nfuseki> thank you.
[03:41] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[03:43] <Lope> I want to configure asterisk to receive calls from my DID number, and forward them to my softphone. I'd like to use IAX2. Can you recommend steps or a guide for doing this on ubuntu 14.04?
[03:46] <tomreyn> deostroll1: there is a utility called powertop from Intel which you can install and run. It can hint on which application or process draws a lot of power, so you can get an idea of what you need to optimize to extend battery life. don't follow the suggestions the tool makes without reading up opn them closely, though, since as always when you optimize power consumption this can (in the worst case) result in permanent damage to your hardware.
[03:47] <tomreyn> Lope: I copuldn't (maybe someone else here can), but have you tried asking in an asterisk specific channel?
[03:52] <alfian> halo semua
[03:52] <alfian> apa kabar
[03:52] <OerHeks> hi alfian, english only please
[03:53] <alfian> oh sure sorry
[03:53] <alfian> what're we talking about?
[03:54] <OerHeks> the usual ubuntu issues, as you entered ubuntu support.
[03:55] <alfian> yap...
[03:56] <Guest3966> anybody knows where should I look in the source files to add some key shortcuts to a gnome program?
[03:59] <HermitOnAForest> found https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit/DevGettingStarted and https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Gedit/RoadMap
[04:01] <OerHeks> Why the sourcecode for making keys ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[04:02] <OerHeks> You only need to know howto run/call the command in bash
[04:03] <HermitOnAForest> hi OerHeks
[04:03] <HermitOnAForest> thanks for your help
[04:03] <HermitOnAForest> I'd like to add shortcuts mostly to navigate between tabs
[04:05] <HermitOnAForest> for instance ctrl+pgup and ctrl+pgdn to move between adjacent tabs
[04:05] <HermitOnAForest> can I move between tabs from bash after the program is running?
[04:05] <Ben64> HermitOnAForest: what program are you trying to move tabs in
[04:05] <OerHeks> In tabs like a browser?
[04:06] <HermitOnAForest> Ben64 gedit
[04:06] <Ben64> HermitOnAForest: already exists, ctrl+alt+page up
[04:06] <HermitOnAForest> gedit 3.10.4
[04:06] <alfian> can i run kde in ubuntu?
[04:06] <Ben64> alfian: yes
[04:06] <HermitOnAForest> wow great!
[04:06] <Ev0luti0n_> yup
[04:06] <HermitOnAForest> thanks
[04:06] <alfian> i'm newbie
[04:07] <OerHeks> alt1 + alt2 + alt3 etc
[04:07] <alfian> how can i do it?
[04:07] <HermitOnAForest> thank you Ben64. I'll learn how to change the source code some other day!
[04:07] <HermitOnAForest> OerHeks, great!
[04:07] <OerHeks> found in the gedit >top panel > documents
[04:08] <Ben64> alfian: you can install kubuntu-desktop or plasma-desktop or kde-plasma-desktop
[04:08] <HermitOnAForest> why don't people use the same shortcuts most often?
[04:08] <alfian> ohh... sure? i try it first
[04:09] <HermitOnAForest> like, is there a project to universalize shortcuts or something?
[04:09] <Ben64> no
[04:09] <nicomachus> https://xkcd.com/927/
[04:09] <OerHeks> Yes, there are rules, free and used shortcuts, see that 1st url
[04:09] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[04:09] <HermitOnAForest> oh yes, OerHeks, shame on me
[04:10] <OerHeks> Common application shortcuts, System shortcuts, Application-specific shortcuts ..
[04:11] <HermitOnAForest> nicomachus LOL
[04:12] <HermitOnAForest> yes, OerHeks, I only hope the consensus grow with time, but as nicomachus reminds us, maybe that's not possible
[04:16] <HermitOnAForest> although there are other shortcuts, what if I wanted to change, just to become the same as in other programs, or do anything similar to change a small detail that annoys me, etc? Is there any tutorial on this sort of thing? Maybe if more users learn how to change small things in their programs, the potential of Linux would faster become a reality
[04:25] <Bashing-om> HermitOnAForest: I can not vouch as I have not done it .. but this may prove interesting to you : http://butlerpc.net/blog/2011/01/using-xbindkeys-on-ubuntu-linux-to-remap-key-commands/ .
[04:46] <[[Mew2]]> guys
[04:46] <[[Mew2]]> how do i ftp into ubuntu
[04:46] <[[Mew2]]> whats the name of the app i need on the server
[04:47] <Ben64> you should use sftp instead of ftp, much more secure, and all you need is an ssh server running
[04:48] <[[Mew2]]> im connected via terminal ssh atm, i want to winscp into it tho
[04:48] <Ben64> yes, winscp does sftp
[04:48] <[[Mew2]]> is the sftp server running by default or how do i check it?
[04:51] <[[Mew2]]> never mind im in
[04:51] <[[Mew2]]> thanks
[04:52] <tomreyn> [[Mew2]]: please try not to take this personal: you really should not consider running a hosting business with your current level of technical expertise, yet.
[04:53] <[[Mew2]]> wow tomreyn do i even know you? stalking me much?
[04:53] <tomreyn> actualyl that's off-topic here, sorry. feel free to PM if you'd like to discuss it more.
[04:53] <[[Mew2]]> i think this is first time i ever seen you
[04:54] <_cb> join #javascript
[04:54] <tomreyn> see my private message, thanks.
[04:54] <[[Mew2]]> no thanks
[04:55] <[[Mew2]]> you can keep your comments to your self
[04:57] <[[Mew2]]> in fact your going on ignore tomreyn, thanks bye
[05:00] <tomreyn> hmm i guess i should have tried to phrase this in a more positive way.
[05:04] <li_> hi
[05:04] <mabus> what's the preferred way to graphically access an ubuntu desktop nowadays? vnc? something built into x? something else?
[05:05] <li_> configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[05:06] <rww> li_: install the build-essential metapackage
[05:07] <li_> yes I have installed it
[05:08] <li_> but it's still doesn't work
[05:10] <SchrodingersScat> !vnc | mabus
[05:12] <HermitOnAForest> thanks Bashing-om, only now I saw it
[05:13] <[[Mew2]]> drwx------ 2 root root  4096 Jan  2 04:32 keys
[05:13] <[[Mew2]]> if i chmod 777 this, how do i get it back to its current state?
[05:13] <HermitOnAForest> Although something tells me that modify the source code should be a cleaner solution than using an intermediate software
[05:14] <SchrodingersScat> [[Mew2]]: chmod 700
[05:14] <[[Mew2]]> thanks SchrodingersScat
[05:17] <Robbie> Hi
[05:18] <Robbie> Hello everyone!
[05:18] <tomreyn> hi Robbie
[05:18] <Robbie> hi
[05:20] <li_> how can i updata my gcc
[05:21] <[[Mew2]]> -rw------- 1 root root 1704 Jan  2 04:30 client1.key
[05:21] <[[Mew2]]> whats the chmod number for this?
[05:21] <Robbie> Hello Im back
[05:21] <Robbie> chmod
[05:21] <rww> [[Mew2]]: r=4, w=2, x=1. first number is for user, second number is for group, third number is for other
[05:21] <rww> [[Mew2]]: so you have rw for user, so that's 4+2=6, and nothing for the other two, so 0. so 600.
[05:23] <[[Mew2]]> thanks rwp
[05:23] <[[Mew2]]> rww sorry*
[05:29] <Veilireave> Lola?
[05:29] <Veilireave> Olla
[05:29] <HermitOnAForest> hi Veilireave
[05:30] <Veilireave> I had a question involving installing a multi boot system :)
[05:30] <HermitOnAForest> what are the systems involved?
[05:30] <HermitOnAForest> Like, Ubuntu and Windows?
[05:31] <Veilireave> Windows 10 and Ubuntu 14.04 server.. Which os should do the partitioning
[05:32] <rww> install Windows 10, either creating a partition and leaving empty room, or resizing the partition down from within Windows, then install Ubuntu
[05:32] <HermitOnAForest> Well, most of the times I did a multi boot system, it stoped working sooner or later. So, are you sure you want to divide a Ubuntu Server with a Windows on the same machine?
[05:32] <Veilireave> I recently had 2 separate drives one Windows 10 and a new Ubuntu 14.04 install.. The new Ubuntu messed up the boot loader on Windows 10.. Which was encrypted and it now messed up
[05:33] <Veilireave> Also iv had a beer or two so...
[05:33] <HermitOnAForest> lol
[05:34] <HermitOnAForest> well, sure about Ubuntu Server, no Desktop?
[05:34] <Lurchy> My instance of ubuntu server GUi doesnt seem to see this 500 gb drive I installed
[05:34] <Veilireave> Idk I once had Windows xp,7,osx10.8,ubuntudesktop 10.x that was ridicolouse
[05:34] <Lurchy> why would ubu not see a drive?
[05:34] <Veilireave> I don't like all the extra crap that comes with the desktop so I usually install server then the gnome basic thing
[05:34] <HermitOnAForest> I'm using Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop, after using 12.04 for a couple of years. I think 14.04 Desktop great
[05:35] <Veilireave> Unity3 or whtvr.. Boo
[05:35] <HermitOnAForest> right, yeah, I'd try rww suggestion
[05:36] <HermitOnAForest> and when using windows, I still prefer XP or 7
[05:36] <Veilireave> I was all about 7 until I gave 10 a good try
[05:36] <HermitOnAForest> I just hate how they keep changing things from place to place, and also changing their names, so nobody EVER get expert in any system!
[05:37] <Veilireave> Mesh... My Windows 10 is botched it'll be a pain in the butt to make a new install usb without system to create it with
[05:37] <HermitOnAForest> Best option to me is to become good enough on Linux so I'll never need Windows again :)
[05:37] <Veilireave> ^
[05:38] <Veilireave> I wish I could ditch Windows but I still like games :(
[05:38] <HermitOnAForest> I played CounterStrike on my Ubuntu 12.04
[05:39] <HermitOnAForest> looks like things are starting to change?
[05:39] <HermitOnAForest> if your windows is botched, then formatting is usually the best option
[05:40] <Veilireave> Are there any tools on Ubuntu to make a Windows install usb
[05:40] <Veilireave> I don't think so
[05:41] <tomreyn> you can install that other OS on removable media by now, and run it from there. so you can plug it in just when you really need it.
[05:41] <Veilireave> Mehh.. Drunk tired... Sleep... Thnks for help
[05:49] <RubberBoa1> hi
[05:50] <RubberBoa1> clear
[05:56] <Lurchy> hey everyone
[05:56] <Lurchy> can  i move my ubuntu install over to a neww ssd drive i got?
[05:57] <Lurchy> is it easy?
[05:58] <Lurchy> take asnapshot of this IDE drive that has my ubuntu installation on it...then copy it onto this SSD drive
[05:58] <Lurchy> so I can boot up and work a lot faster
[05:59] <tomreyn> Lurchy: how old is your old installation?
[05:59] <tomreyn> or rather, which ubuntu version created it
[06:00] <Lurchy> it was 14
[06:00] <Lurchy> I just upgraded to 15
[06:00] <tomreyn> 14.04 LTS?
[06:00] <Lurchy> I believe so
[06:01] <tomreyn> maybe you could run "sudo parted -l", remove the serial numbers and paste it to a pastebin to look at?
[06:01] <tomreyn> actually there are no serial numbers in that output
[06:02] <tomreyn> !pastebin | Lurchy
[06:02] <sandGorgon> hi guys - what is the recommended  docker storage backend for ubuntu  ? I'm not able to figure out whether I should use devicemapper, aufs, etc ?
[06:02] <Lurchy> hmmm
[06:03] <Lurchy> I dont understand why you are requesting that
[06:03] <Lurchy> cant I just copy the image over as I have doen in windows?
[06:03] <Lurchy> or is there something different I am not aware of
[06:04] <tomreyn> Lurchy, yes you could boot from a live usb key or a cdrom or some other hard drive and then just copy your existing hard disk contents to the new ssd.
[06:05] <tomreyn> Lurchy: however, this would only work if the SSD has the same or more capacity (or course), and may not allow you to benefit from later improvements to disk partitioning.
[06:06] <tomreyn> ..as well as file system improvements
[06:06] <tomreyn> the reason i suggested you could provide the old disks' partitoning scheme is that it would allow to make a better recomemndation
[06:08] <tomreyn> this is not necessary to come up with the rather general statement i just provided, though.
[06:12] <paul___> ^X
[06:18] <paul___> .
[06:19] <paul___> quit
[06:28] <ripvanwinkle> hey
[06:30] <mick_> hello
[06:31] <mick_> can someone help me please
[06:33] <mick_> i am  not able to access my user account, i only have guest access
[06:33] <Ben64> mick_: you need to explain your problem in detail first
[06:38] <mick_> when i type in my user account password, i dont have access to that account. but when i switch to my guest account i am able to use internet and such, but a window opens up saying, when i log out, all my work that i was looking at for the session will be deleted and my computer willreturn to default when i shut it down
[06:39] <tomreyn> the latter is the nature of a / the guest account, so that's working as intended.
[06:39] <tomreyn> now for why you cannot login, that's worth a closer look.
[06:40] <tomreyn> mick_: what are the error messages you get to see when you try to login and it fails? which changes have you made since it worked and when it stopped working? is there a chance you forgot or mistyped your password (caps lock)?
[06:41] <mick_> yes but as a temporary. my problem is, i do not have any icons to the left of the screen to work with in my user account
[06:41] <tomreyn> so you actually can log in to your normal account, it's 'just' that the interface is not as expected then?
[06:42] <mick_> i am using the same password that i used when the OP WAS INSTALLED
[06:43] <tomreyn> did you mean to write "OS", not "OP"?
[06:43] <mick_> NO, I CAN ONLY USE MY GUEST ACCOUNT
[06:43] <mick_> OH SORRY OS
[06:46] <tomreyn> okay so something else must have changed since you last logged in successfully to your normal user account. do you have any idea what might have happened?
[06:46] <tomreyn> (sorry if i posted this twice)
[06:47] <tomreyn> mick_: maybe you would like to reset your https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[06:48] <mick_> i do not have the disk, tried a reboot still unable to access the account. it shows up on the screen, but when i type in my password, nothing, no icons just the background appear
[06:48] <mick_> can i try ?
[06:48] <tomreyn> which disk are you referring to?
[06:49] <mick_> the disk to install the operating system
[06:49] <amicrawler> may be some bdy could shead some light on this
[06:49] <amicrawler> Failed to load UI file; please check your installation
[06:50] <amicrawler> trying to get sound on sheepshaver
[06:51] <amicrawler> been working on in it for the last 4hrs  no luck
[06:51] <tomreyn> mick_: you should not need installation media to reset your password. however, based on what you said last, you are able to login to your normal user account, so resetting your password will not help. you need to find out what is wrong with your window manager and fix this.
[06:52] <Ben64> mick_: log in to your user, then hit CTRL+ALT+T, does a terminal window open?
[06:55] <amicrawler> oh well i guess oss is not used any more
[06:57] <tomreyn> amicrawler: i don't think this application is supported here. The error message you posted seems to refer the gstreamer-properties application which is part of...
[06:57] <tomreyn> !package gnome-media
[06:57] <lrs> HI, I managed to break my install while upgrading to 16.04. I only have a Debian live cd right now. Is this possible to fix in any way?
[06:58] <Ben64> lrs: #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 support
[06:58] <tomreyn> amicrawler: ...which only exists in ubuntu wily.
[06:58] <tomreyn> actually the last line is false, sorry.
[07:03] <mick__> hey guys ya that control+ alt + T did not work
[07:04] <tomreyn> mick__: do you know which graphical desktop / window manager you are using? the default one of ubuntu, unity? or gnome, xfce, kde etc?
[07:05] <tomreyn> also, which ubuntu version are you on?
[07:05] <mick__> 14.04 LTS
[07:06] <tomreyn> thanks for answering one of two questions.
[07:06] <tomreyn> if you press ctrl-alt-f1 you should get a text login, are you able to login fine there?
[07:07] <mick__> i wish i knew how to answer your first question
[07:07] <tomreyn> okay, that's fine then. i will assuem you installed the default ubuntu and are using the default 'unity' desktop, not xubuntu, kubuntu or the like.
[07:08] <tomreyn> on the text based loign, you need to type your username, which will be printed on screen as you type it, then your password - which will not be printed on screen at all (not even as stars or dots).
[07:13] <lrs> Ben64 my question is probably more on how I can save my install and install a new kernel than updating I thibk
[07:16] <tomreyn> lrs: if you already started the upgrade that's not relevant since you're no longer on a stable release. i can try to help on the other channel in case you could not get help there so far.
[07:17] <lrs> Tomreyn,  ok check it out
[07:42] <Jonii> mick__: if you're still here, ctrl+alt+f7 will get you back on graphical interface
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[08:40] <mikel123> hello there
[08:41] <mikel123> i ed some help with blueman adapters
[08:41] <mikel123> need
[08:44] <HappyHippie> i need help too
[09:16] <oaulakh> i have a question why my internet run slow on ubuntu and faster on windows, means i love linux but this annoying thing make me feel lost, is there any solution
[09:17] <Ben64> oaulakh: need more information
[09:23] <kaosu> Is disabling dnsmasq by commenting out the appropriate section of the NetworkManager.conf safe to do in terms of system stability? I also removed postfix from the system and create some overrides for services I am not using. The system itself is stable and works fine, but will these changes negatively affect any future upgrades to another LTS release?
[09:27] <Cysioland> Can I make it so that disk stays powered when I suspend?
[09:28] <oaulakh> i have a question why my internet run slow on ubuntu and faster on windows, means i love linux but this annoying thing make me feel lost, is there any solution
[09:32] <phpmyadmin> hello guys
[09:33] <oaulakh> hi
[09:33] <phpmyadmin> I have this error when am trying to connect to phpmyadmin on ubuntu:  #2003 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[09:34] <kaosu> oaulakh: Well, an issue like that could be caused by a wide variety of reasons, but have ran any speedtests to confirm your thoughts? In addition, it is quite possible that your connection speeds being reduced when using Ubuntu might be related to poor driver performance compared to the Windows counterpart.
[09:34] <mxO> hello, i am not able to select resolution of 2560 x 1440, can anyone help?
[09:34] <oaulakh> kaosu, so can i fix it?
[09:35] <kaosu> oaulakh: Are you using a wireless or wired connection? This can either reinforce of completely dismiss my theory about poor driver performance (mostly).
[09:36] <oaulakh> kaosu, wireless
[09:36] <kaosu> Do you happen to know the chipset your wireless card uses?
[09:37] <oaulakh> its something aethrous i dunno what, laptop is sony vpceh25en
[09:38] <k1l_> oaulakh: lspci or lsusb will list the device
[09:39] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14367382/
[09:39] <vincent42> hi all, in ubuntu 14.04 , I'm trying to have a normal user mount  a usb disk from command line
[09:40] <vincent42> what is the proper way ? seems to be udiskctl but it require password from and admin user
[09:40] <oaulakh> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14367382/
[09:40] <oaulakh> kaosu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14367382/
[09:40] <mxO> so i have tried xrandr etc but not working
[09:41] <thefallenone> new to irc
[09:42] <kaosu> oaulakh: The Atheros AR9285 chipset seems to have good GNU/Linux support, so I doubt it is a driver issue. Have you tried temporarily disabling all of your browser's extensions to see if the problem might be caused by too many (or poorly written) extensions?
[09:42] <k1l_> oaulakh: Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)     that is your wifi card
[09:42] <baumy> does anyone know how to change the size of the login window in lightdm?
[09:42] <baumy> using the lightdm-gtk-greeter, and not actually on ubuntu, but don't know a better place to ask
[09:43] <phpmyadmin> I have this error when am trying to connect to phpmyadmin on ubuntu:  #2003 Cannot log in to the MySQL server
[09:43] <oaulakh> kaosu, my browser have no addons and any backgroud network processing i dunno why it's slow, i install clean ubuntu only for my education purpose but when you start surffing internet and see stuff slow i have to switch back to windows, it's not a good thing :(
[09:44] <kaosu> oaulakh: Have you installed any software like TOR or anything else similar?
[09:45] <oaulakh> kaosu, not yet
[09:46] <kaosu> oaulakh: Run a speedtest (or try downloading a large file for 1 minute just to get some speed averages) and see if it is actually some type of connection issue.
[09:47] <mxO> http://pastebin.com/3Va8dgyE output of xrandr if someone can help
[09:48] <kaosu> If you're able to download a file as your full connection speed, then the issue is probably going to be some software issue that you will need to hunt down.
[09:48] <oaulakh> kaosu, i tell when i boot into winodows network and yourtutbe any onther surffing sites goes cool but when i boot in ubuntu you can not play vedio on youtube or anyother site on ubuntu, means if i want to watch lectures i have to boot back in windows, problemis in my os but i where to find and solve it
[09:49] <Cysioland> Can I make it so that disk stays powered when I suspend?
[09:51] <kaosu> oaulakh: Open a terminal and type "ping google.com" without the quotes. Link me to the output just for the sake of my own curiosity.
[09:52] <kaosu> You can use CTRL+Z to stop the ping after like 5 attempts
[09:53] <Cysioland> kaosu, CTRL+C more like, doesn't CTRL+Z freeze it?
[09:53] <oaulakh> kaosu, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14367444/
[09:54] <kaosu> Cysioland: You're right. That was my mistake.
[09:54] <oaulakh> Cysioland, yup
[09:54] <k1l_> Cysioland: that would be standby aka syspend2ram.
[09:55] <k1l_> Cysioland: it doesnt work for suspend2disk aka hibernation.
[09:55] <Cysioland> k1l_, but it powers down disk, which is undesired, because I use hardware encryption
[09:55] <Cysioland> k1l_, suspend to disk work OK, because then computer boots up the decryption software
[09:55] <k1l_> Cysioland: where is the issue with power down?
[09:57] <Cysioland> k1l_, because when power to the disk gets cut off, disk gets encrypted, and when I resume from suspend, there's no way to boot PBA software, so it just shits out because suddenly disk doesn't respond to writes
[09:57] <Cysioland> So I have to cold boot it, then PBA boots, I enter password and it proceeds further
[09:57] <kaosu> oaulakh: The output looks fine. Honestly, I am out of ideas to try and help. It sounds like this is either going to be some sort of problem with the driver for your wireless adapter or some obscure software-related issue. At this point, if it were me, I would load an Ubuntu LiveCD and see if the problem persisted.
[09:57] <oaulakh> ok
[09:58] <aruna> got a really irritating problem, after installing ubuntu 15.10 and then gnome-shell my window corners look really ugly. All window corners has little white areas that is supposed to be transparent. How do I fix it. example: http://imgbay.mobi/di/Screenshotfrom20160102115442-m517l.png
[09:58] <k1l_> Cysioland: sorry, dont know
[09:59] <Cysioland> k1l_, still better than on #ubuntu-pl, where they suggest me to ask Arch Linux people, because they often have crazy ideas
[10:00] <k1l_> Cysioland: but the sense behind disc encryption is, that it is encrypted when you leave the computer (logout/standby/suspend/shutdown.....).
[10:01] <Cysioland> k1l_, it's encrypted when you cut power to the disk
[10:02] <jester-> aruna: more than a problem it look than a touch of class
[10:03] <aruna> jester-, any idea how to fix?
[10:06] <jester-> aruna: driver video ok?
[10:07] <aruna> jester-, believe so
[10:08] <titanium17> guys i keep trying to install nvidia 355 driver for my asus laptop running ubuntu gnome
[10:08] <titanium17> but it gets stuck on reboot every time
[10:08] <titanium17> and i have to purge all nvidia stuff so that i can log back in again
[10:09] <jester-> aruna: look in system setting-->additional driver
[10:09] <titanium17> is there any solution to this? been trying for 3 days now
[10:09] <k1l_> !nomodeset | titanium17 try if that helps
[10:10] <jester-> titanium17: in addictional drivers is it tested?
[10:12] <titanium17> thanks guys, i will try it now
[10:12] <saeed_> hi
[10:12] <titanium17> jester-, i tried installing the one in additional drivers, it seems to fail to boot as well
[10:12] <saeed_> anybody can help me?
[10:13] <cfhowlett> !ask | saeed_
[10:13] <jester-> titanium17: which version of Ubuntu you're using
[10:13] <titanium17> ubuntu gnome the LTS version
[10:13] <jester-> titanium17: your pc has 2 graphic card?
[10:14] <saeed_> i revive this message during upgrade my Ubuntu
[10:14] <titanium17> no, its a laptop. currently it uses only the onboard graphics
[10:15] <saeed_>  libc-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.20) but 2.21-0ubuntu4 is installed
[10:15] <aruna> jester-, I Installed the proprietary tested driver from nvidia
[10:15] <jester-> titanium17: if 2 card only tray to set nomodeset
[10:15] <ikonia> aruna: from nvidia.com or from the ubuntu software center
[10:15] <saeed_>  libc-bin : Depends: libc6 (< 2.20) but 2.21-0ubuntu4 is installed
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !patience | saeed_,
[10:16] <jester-> !nomodeset | titanium17
[10:16] <aruna> ikonia, software centre
[10:17] <ikonia> aruna: that should be the best option on paper then
[10:18] <ikonia> aruna: what nvidia card do you have ?
[10:18] <aruna> GT 840 M or something
[10:18] <aruna> ikonia, above
[10:18] <ikonia> worth finding out exactly which model it is
[10:20] <titanium17> ok just installed nvidia 355 from the software center
[10:20] <titanium17> will try the nomodeset option now
[10:20] <titanium17> thanks jester-
[10:24] <haskel> if I create a new user on my ubuntu machine, and give people ssh access to that user account, all of the data in my other accounts should be safe right?
[10:25] <ikonia> haskel: define "safe"
[10:25] <Ben64> should be, but don't give accounts to people you don't trust
[10:25] <cfhowlett> haskel, can that user access other accounts??
[10:25] <EriC^^> haskel: by default your home dir can be viewed by other people
[10:26] <dafb> what if your home dir is encrypted?
[10:26] <EriC^^> you have to chmod 770 ~ to change that
[10:27] <EriC^^> dafb: they can view it while it's decrypted and your logged on, i guess
[10:27] <dafb> chmod -r ~/ 000 just to be on the safe side...
[10:27] <ikonia> dafb: what ??
[10:27] <haskel> ikonia, cfhowlett, EriC^^, so say I have one account admin with all my personal data, browsing history, passwords saved to browsers, etc. and then I create a new account X, if I logon to X and let people ssh into X, would they be able to access my personal data, browsing history, passwords saved to browsers, etc.?
[10:27]  * dafb is laughing
[10:27] <ikonia> dafb: it's not funny, please don't do that sort of thing
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | dafb
[10:28] <cfhowlett> dafb, that ranks right up there advising rm -f.  the ops are more forgiving than I because I would kick you for such idiotic, malicious advice.
[10:28] <EriC^^> haskel: yeah, by default the permissions on the home dir are 755, so others can read and execute access to your home dir
[10:29] <EriC^^> haskel: type ls -ld ~<your user> , to see the permissions
[10:29] <haskel> EriC^^, on my current admin account, I get: drwxr-xr-x 85
[10:30] <EriC^^> yeah, the last 3 ( r-x ) are for others
[10:30] <EriC^^> if you want to change that, type chmod 750 ~<your user>
[10:30] <dafb> why are other accounts allowed to view your data in this day and age?
[10:31] <haskel> dafb, haha agreed
[10:31] <dafb> what purpose does it serve to the system?
[10:31] <haskel> EriC^^, got it, so if I create a new user that I don't want accessing my data, I should chmod 750 ~new_user
[10:32] <EriC^^> yeah, you can set the permissions a newly created user's home dir has in some .conf too
[10:32] <Ben64> haskel: no, the other way
[10:32] <EriC^^> oh, i misread
[10:32] <EriC^^> yeah, you set the home dir of the user you want to protect the data of
[10:33] <Ben64> haskel: set _your_ home directory to xx0 and only you and your group has access
[10:34] <haskel> Ben64, how do I set the home directory to xx0? with chmod 750?
[10:35] <k1l_> dafb: readable home folders are made for easier file sharing between new users.
[10:36] <HappyHippie> what happens if i format a the drive of a linux instal and install another linux on a different partition? which boot loader will be loaded?
[10:37] <ikonia> the one thats on the mbr
[10:37] <HappyHippie> tbh im not sure
[10:37] <dafb> k1l_: but why would users want to share their info in this day and age; like who wants to give anyone with access to their computer their browser history...
[10:37] <cfhowlett> HappyHippie, by default, the most recently installed OS writes a new bootloader.  Hopefully it will play nice with the other OS.  Windows doesn't even try and just wipes those entries from boot options.
[10:37] <ikonia> when you install a distro it normally puts the boot loader on the mbr, so normally the last one thats left
[10:37] <k1l_> dafb: and most machines are one-user machines or the other users have physical access so they can evade that setting easily. so it was set the way it is for user convenience.
[10:37] <HappyHippie> thanks a million guys
[10:39] <dafb> k1l_: ty for the explanation still think that it should be decapricated, but i can be parinoid sometimes
[10:39] <k1l_> dafb: a 750 home is not making you any more safe in this day and age.
[10:39] <HappyHippie> so even though my new install is on a new drive.. the mbr of the latest install will fire?
[10:40] <EriC^^> HappyHippie: no, unless you're using uefi
[10:40] <HappyHippie> i dont understand i thought the last install is what booted?
[10:40] <EriC^^> you'll have to set the boot order in the bios if not
[10:40] <HappyHippie> is uefi microsoft 10?
[10:41] <dafb> a home 750 that's fulldisk encrypted with an aes 512 bit key, that is fully shutdown when it is not in use is a little safer
[10:41] <EriC^^> HappyHippie: you have windows 10?
[10:41] <dafb> but not by much
[10:41] <HappyHippie> yes eric
[10:41] <EriC^^> HappyHippie: it's probably uefi
[10:42] <HappyHippie> ive got linux on a drive that i want to replace with another flavor....
[10:42] <HappyHippie> atm im dualbooting
[10:42] <k1l_> dafb: that is not what we were talking about. but i think we are fine to focus on support again
[10:42] <EriC^^> HappyHippie: ok, install linux and it should use or the current efi partition or create its own, and then add the entry to the efibootmgr
[10:42] <EriC^^> *use the
[10:43] <HappyHippie> so if i delete my old linux and install new linux on a different drive i will be able to boot the latest linux install?
[10:43] <EriC^^> yeah
[10:44] <EriC^^> you should probably fix the efibootmgr so that if you remove the new hdd, windows still boots
[10:44] <EriC^^> cause if the grub efi file is still present, if you remove the new hdd, you'll end up with a grub rescue>
[10:45] <emx_> i want to undelete files on a vfat formatted usb drive. i did a research and found that all (or most?) programs rescue specific file formats. is there a program that shows all deleted files on that partition (just norton undelete did)?
[10:45] <EriC^^> emx_: you can try testdisk to show deleted files
[10:46] <emx_> EriC^^, thanks
[10:46] <EriC^^> and photorec searches for specific file types you give it and recovers them
[10:46] <EriC^^> ( it's part of the testdisk package )
[10:46] <dafb> emx_: the reason why it's file type based is because you're looking for file headers in your drive, don't make any new files or you may delete your data
[10:46] <emx_> EriC^^, i read about photorec. the thing is: i don't know all formats.
[10:46] <EriC^^> emx_: testdisk can show you delete files
[10:46] <emx_> dafb, i am creating an image of that partition which i will use for recovery purposes.
[10:47] <EriC^^> ( press p over the partition after it searches for the list of them and it'll show you files, c or C recovers them )
[10:47] <EriC^^> fat32 is very easy to recover deleted files on, i dont know about vfat
[10:48] <emx_> EriC^^, well, i will see ^^
[10:59] <emx_> does anyone know the partition type of a flashdrive?
[10:59] <Ben64> it can be anything
[10:59] <emx_> thought so :-/
[10:59] <Ben64> what are you trying to do
[11:00] <emx_> Ben64, undelete files. right now i am in the partition menu of testdisk
[11:00] <emx_> and i don't know what to choose
[11:00] <Ben64> what are the options
[11:00] <emx_> i assume it is either "intel" or "none" i have to choose.
[11:00] <emx_> btw: it is a flashdrive with one partition.
[11:00] <emx_> vfat
[11:01] <dafb> emx_: try one then the other...
[11:01] <emx_> the full list: intel, efi gpt, humax, mac, none, sun, xbox
[11:01] <Ben64> oh, that will be intel
[11:01] <emx_> k
[11:06] <baguzzzaji> r
[11:14] <valentinas> hi, could someone help me to track down the source code files for the libpcre3 package?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> !find libpcre
[11:15] <HappyHippie> What's worse... Unity? or Gnome3?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> valentinas  sudo apt-get source libcre3
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> HappyHippie  try both, decide which hate more, yourself
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> which you*
[11:17] <valentinas> MonkeyDust: ah, that makes it so much easier. thanks
[11:18] <sheen> !clear
[11:23] <anj7> Hey I have a problem with my ubuntu laptop wifi connection, it continually disconnects to wifi even though the signals are shown full, I have to reconnect to the wifi in order to connect it. What's the problem and how can I fix it?
[11:23] <emx_> Ben64, the partition table type was "none" because i made an image of the partition and not of the whole block device.
[11:27] <tomreyn> anj7: what's your ubuntu version, and what's the output of this command (including parenthesis): (lsusb; lspci -k) | grep -Ei '(wireless|wlan)'
[11:28] <anj7> tomreyn: ubuntu 15.10
[11:28] <anj7> tomreyn: output = 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
[11:29] <tomreyn> anj7: actually this command instead: (lsusb; lspci -knn) | grep -Ei '(wireless|wlan)'
[11:30] <titanium17> guys what is the recommended vpn client for ubuntu gnome?
[11:30] <anj7> tomreyn: output = 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter [10ec:b723]
[11:30] <titanium17> cisco's client doesnt seem to work well for me
[11:31] <sora> Is there a specific trusted place for downloading lightdm themes/greeters? Similar to gnome-look, etc. All i find are peoples private PPAs
[11:31] <tomreyn> anj7: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1320070
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> !vpn | titanium17 start here
[11:35] <tomreyn> anj7: there does not seem to be an easy solution for your ubuntu release, but this bug report discusses serveral workarounds you can give a shot
[11:35] <anj7> tomreyn: I which one is the correct fix?
[11:35] <ilmaisin> hi, has ubuntu 15.10 had problems with partition table getting lost
[11:36] <anj7> tomreyn: yea, should I try all?
[11:37] <tomreyn> anj7: placing "options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N" in "/etc/modprobe.d/rtl8723be.conf" and rebooting is what i'd try first of all.
[11:38] <anj7> :) i was trying to do that
[11:38] <tomreyn> (rebooting is not strictly necessary here, but it can end up to be easier)
[11:38] <anj7> but i didn't find the file rtl8... :(
[11:38] <tomreyn> anj7: you are supposed to create it
[11:39] <anj7> ohh ok
[11:40] <Berentoler> Okay, so I am trying to install Ubuntu on a mac.
[11:40] <Berentoler> I've read the wiki.
[11:40] <Berentoler> However, it keeps saying "Boot Legacy OS" in rEFInd.
[11:40] <Berentoler> Should it be trying to boot a legacy OS and not an EFI one?
[11:42] <anj7> tomreyn: done, should I restart my system now?
[11:43] <tomreyn> anj7: it'S the easiest way to aply the change, yes
[11:43] <anj7> tomreyn: ok, then cya. Thank for the help
[11:44] <tomreyn> yw, gl
[11:46] <Berentoler> Okay, apparently, the ubuntu livecd includes and incompatible EFI option.
[11:46] <Berentoler> How do I remove the EFI option from the liveCD?
[11:46] <valentinas> !find aclocal
[11:53] <Danijel> Hello, I can't login to ubuntu forums. Just created an Ubuntu one account and then I go to forums and click login with SSO. But after that I am still not logged in. Can someone hlep me? Thanks!
[11:54] <bazhang> Danijel, ask in #ubuntuforums
[11:54] <cfhowlett> Danijel, look on the forums pages for forum support.  nothing to do with this channel
[11:54] <Danijel> bazhnag, thanks!
[11:54] <bazhang> np
[11:58] <LonelyDanbo> how do I uninstall flash in firefox? the plugins section just says it's disabled, but I can't play any videos on youtube.
[11:58] <soee> any idea why VLC suddenly can't handle h264 videos when dragon player for example has no problems with them >
[11:58] <LonelyDanbo> also, how can I still play flash files without it interfering with video playback in my web browser?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> soee, launch it from terminal an note error messages
[11:59] <tomreyn> Berentoler: what makes you think that the live cd uses an incompatible EFI option (is this an exact quote of a text seen at boot time?)?
[12:00] <lin_lin13> hello,who is good at using  gns3?
[12:00] <tomreyn> Berentoler: if the mac can switch to legacy bios boot mode that's usually preferred.
[12:00] <soee> cfhowlett: any suggestion:
[12:00] <soee> [00007fe8e0001268] vdpau_display vout display error: video mixer surface width capabilities query failure: VDP_STATUS_NO_IMPLEMENTATION
[12:01] <cfhowlett> soee, ubuntu version?  also run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[12:02] <soee> cfhowlett: i'm no Xenial, but this problem exist when i switch from nvidia gpu to intel on my hybrid laptop
[12:02] <lin_lin13> In the gns3 , I add a pc , when I first click it ,it will enter the consle, when I  shutdown the consle, I click the pc again ,it cannot enter the consle ,,   why ???
[12:02] <soee> i had this also on 15.10
[12:02] <cfhowlett> !xenial | soee,
[12:02] <tomreyn> lin_lin13: hi, what's "gns3"?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> !info gns3
[12:03] <tomreyn> ty
[12:03] <lin_lin13> simulator for cisco
[12:04] <valentinas_> where do I get the aclocal from? tried installing automake and autotools-dev, but didn't help.
[12:04] <cfhowlett> soee, vdpau is some kind of video driver error.  the fact that dragon player has no issue suggests the problem might be vlc specific.  ask #videolan
[12:04] <soee> cfhowlett: ah a bit of googling and it is fixed, vdpau should NOT be set for decoding
[12:05] <soee> and it was set here, i have switch to vaapo
[12:05] <soee> *vaapi
[12:06] <arne_> Ubuntu 15.10 MATE working pretty good on eeePC 1000HE. No wifi problems. Some odd freezes when going into new Application menu submenus though.
[12:06] <tomreyn> lin_lin13: i couldn't help you there, then, since i never used it. have you tried https://www.gns3.com/qa/ and https://www.gns3.com/support/docs/ yet?
[12:09] <akik> valentinas_: after installing automake, try "ls /usr/bin/aclocal*"
[12:10] <akik> valentinas_: alternatives points aclocal to a certain version of aclocal
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> lin_lin13  type /j #gns3
[12:14] <valentinas_> akik: ran autoreconf -f -i and that helped. things like that sap the lifeforce out of me though. trying to set up pcre3 for debugging. 3 hours in so far.
[12:16] <lin_lin13> MonkeyDust, thanks
[12:23] <Halp232323> Hello, is this thing working<
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> Halp232323  we see you, ok
[12:25] <Halp232323> Thank you, quick question. Can I create an USB installer using a liveCD that had booted from the target USB thum drive<
[12:25] <Halp232323> ubuntu gnome installer had screwed GRUB2 up. I don!t have access to windows anymore.
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> Halp232323  you can boot from a live dvd and create a live usb ... or is that not what you mean
[12:26] <tomreyn> Halp232323: i don't think it offers an option to copy to and boot from RAM, so the answer there would be "no"
[12:26] <Halp232323> something similar... I have only one USB thumb drive
[12:26] <Halp232323> ah
[12:26] <Halp232323> then idk what to do. let me think for a second
[12:29] <Halp232323> thank you. Got a second thumb drive
[12:31] <pc_magas> I managed to install the grub2 on a USB stick in order to boot multiple distros from usb stick and I managed to boot the ubuntu 14.04.03LTS from it. Now I want to try to chainload the ubuntu .iso image do you have any idea?
[12:31] <pc_magas> How I can manage this?
[12:31] <tomreyn> Halp232323: actually it may work if you enter the "toram" option on the boot prompt. but i haven't tried
[12:32] <Halp232323> thank you for the tip
[12:32] <mxO> help, i cant choose 2560x1440 resolution for my display
[12:32] <mxO> gfx card: gtx 570 from nvidia
[12:32] <mxO> monitor: samsung 1440p
[12:34] <Ben64> mxO: how is it connected
[12:35] <TJ-> mxO: you'll probably need to use Dual-DVI link, not HDMI
[12:36] <tomreyn> pc_magas:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[12:37] <Skyrider> Strange..
[12:37] <Skyrider> I added a PPA, and the info shows it has ap-hotspot in the package.
[12:37] <Skyrider> But when I attempt to install it, it can't find it.
[12:38] <Skyrider> ugh
[12:40] <pc_magas> tomreyn, I have studied this help page but does not gives me the answer on chainloading isos.
[12:42] <tomreyn> pc_magas: neither the examples page it refers to?
[12:42] <pc_magas> tomreyn, nope
[12:42] <Skyrider> soneva
[12:43] <Skyrider> Why isnt it working
[12:43] <Skyrider> E: Unable to locate package ap-hotspot
[12:43] <bekks> Skyrider: Did you run "sudo apt-get update"?
[12:43] <EriC^^> !info ap-hotspot
[12:43] <EriC^^> nevermind
[12:44] <Skyrider> I always do when adding a new ppa or altering the sources list.
[12:44] <tomreyn> pc_magas: but those examples are exactly that?
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> Skyrider  then try contacting the ppa maintainer
[12:44] <tomreyn> pc_magas: what appears to be missing then?
[12:45] <pc_magas> tomreyn, what I want to do in not boot a specific option like Ubuntu live etc etc I want to lwt .iso's bootloadet to do all the disrty job
[12:45] <pc_magas> tomreyn, what I want to do in not boot a specific option like Ubuntu live etc etc I want to lwt .iso's bootloader to do all the dirty job*
[12:46] <pc_magas> Eg. When select the Ubuntu's Iso to use the iso's bootloader and show the initial menu.
[12:46] <Skyrider> Shame its not available on 15.10, :(
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> what's lwt
[12:50] <bazhang> pc_magas, use grub to do that
[12:50] <bazhang> MonkeyDust, let
[12:50] <pc_magas> bazhang, I am using grub on my usb stick.
[12:51] <bazhang> !grub2 | pc_magas have a read
[12:51] <pc_magas> I Installed Gub oin USB stick
[12:51] <bazhang> pc_magas, that wont do it
[12:52] <tomreyn> pc_magas: try this: find --set-root /truecrypt_rescue_image.iso; chainloader ($root)
[12:52] <tomreyn> ; is a new line
[12:53] <tomreyn> and edit the iso filename of course
[12:53] <pc_magas> so just a sec to boot from my usb stick
[12:54] <pc_magas> Thanbks anyway
[12:54] <mxO> TJ-: why dual dvi? it works on windows
[12:54] <mxO> Ben64: its connected through HDMI
[12:54] <mxO> side note: like mentioned above, it's working on windows
[12:55] <mxO> also which driver should i choose for the 570? the ubuntu-driver section has many different, but when changing it pops back to the default one
[12:55] <TJ-> mxO: we've seen a few where the GPU's specs say that 2560x1440 is only supported on the dual DVI ouput; had one a couple of days ago. On HDMI the max was 1920x1200
[12:56] <mxO> ahaa, but was this a linux side problem?
[12:56] <Help23232> Hello
[12:56] <mxO> TJ-: and it's working on windows (dualboot) so shouldnt it work on linux ?
[12:56] <TJ-> mxO: What I'm talking about was a GPU capabilities issue. Use "xrandr -q" to check what modes the monitor reports to the GPU that it supports
[12:56] <vooze> Anyone know where the first emojis are from (which font?) I just installed noto-emojis, but I want to remove the old ones thats "blocking" some of the new.
[12:56] <vooze> http://i.imgur.com/kmlCY1t.png
[12:57] <mxO> TJ-: do you know which is the correct driver btw? i am currently using 304.131 prop
[12:57] <TJ-> mxO: "ubuntu-drivers list" should tell you
[12:58] <annon0100101010> i've installed lubuntu in machine
[12:58] <mxO> nvidia-304-updatesintel-microcodenvidia-340-updatesnvidia-340nvidia-304nvidia-352-updatesnvidia-352 this is what comes out ; not sure what this means ? the accesibile drivers i guess ? but i cant change them
[12:58] <annon0100101010> but during installation i've chosen wrong keyboard layout
[12:58] <TJ-> mxO: right, so the 'latest' version would be -352
[12:59] <annon0100101010> its eb-uk but i want en-us
[12:59] <mxO> yeah, but i can change it ?
[12:59] <mxO> TJ-: ^
[12:59] <annon0100101010> *en-uk
[12:59] <TJ-> mxO: So "sudo apt-get install nvidia-352" should replace -304
[13:00] <annon0100101010> the command 'setxkbmap -layout us' changes it just for that session
[13:00] <mxO> TJ-: i need remoot or something ?
[13:00] <mxO> annon0100101010: put it in bashrc or something ?
[13:00] <mxO> i have .xsessionrc for xmonad where i have all random things :-)
[13:00] <ioria> annon0100101010, i put in ~/.profile
[13:01] <k1l> annon0100101010: set it in "systemsettings > languagesettings"
[13:01] <TJ-> annon0100101010: I think  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"
[13:01] <bekks> annon0100101010: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[13:01] <TJ-> annon0100101010: or as bekks just said ^^^^
[13:01] <k1l> lxkeymap  should be the command
[13:02] <bekks> annon0100101010: Just dont put that other stuff into ~/.profile
[13:02] <annon0100101010> ok..!
[13:02] <k1l> maybe need a locale-gen
[13:03] <k1l> since its not just the keyboard setting that is set on install. its a bunch of other country and language settings, too
[13:04] <annon0100101010> i'm a beginner programmer...though my machine is windows10 ready, im enjoying all those linux stuff....specially it was quite irritating(at least for me) to work with ruby on windows
[13:05] <annon0100101010> thanks everyone
[13:06] <LonelyDanbo> do I need to go back to windows? am I too retarded for linux? nothing works and I can't deal with this.
[13:07] <Help23232> Quick question> how do i know if a disk is a GPD disk<
[13:07] <Help23232> cant tell from the return of @sudo parted -l@
[13:07] <TJ-> Help23232: GPT?
[13:07] <Ben64> LonelyDanbo: maybe explain the problem and someone can help you
[13:07] <LonelyDanbo> I disable flash for video playback and now youtube is like "your browser doesn't support fullscreen" plus all videos pretend like they haven't buffered enough when it's playing halfway between what it SHOWS as buffered, so even when the whole thing's loaded it's stuttering like hell.
[13:08] <Help23232> TJ/ this page mentions it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DiskSpace
[13:08] <TJ-> Help23232: parted -l reports it for each device: "Partition Table: gpt "
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  is this useful https://www.youtube.com/html5
[13:08] <Help23232> thank you. it reports it as MSDOS
[13:09] <tomreyn> LonelyDanbo: try a different web browser. google services such as youtube usually work best with googles' web browser called chrome / chromium.
[13:09] <LonelyDanbo> ... uhg.
[13:09] <TJ-> Help23232: msdos partitioning is sometimes also termed 'MBR' (Master Boot Record)
[13:09] <LonelyDanbo> I don't know. I heard chromium was the... what... open source version? so... maybe.
[13:10] <makk> Help23232, you can use parted: sudo parted, select /dev/sdx, print. leave parted with quit
[13:10] <Help23232> The old system. I see. thank you.
[13:10] <TJ-> LonelyDanbo: it could be a local video-driver issue if the driver isn't able to do hardware accelerated video
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  chromium is the basis for chrome
[13:11] <tomreyn> LonelyDanbo: i'm sure there is a way to get it to work in your favourite web browser as well, but that's not something i could help with.
[13:11] <LonelyDanbo> oh god oh god no. why is this one thousand dollar computer such a horrible piece of crap? I even spent money trying to fix it and it didn't help.
[13:11] <pc_magas> tomreyn, I tried with the Ubuntu Iso and I did non manage to chainload
[13:12] <tomreyn> pc_magas: that's a pity. it should not need to be this complex but you could give that a try, too https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2/Chainloading#TrueCrypt
[13:12] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  http://www.diffen.com/difference/Chromium_vs_Google_Chrome
[13:12] <LonelyDanbo> I think I'm going to give up on life and just sleep all the time. the computer's killing me anyway.
[13:13] <LonelyDanbo> youtube.com/html5 says The HTML5 player is currently used when possible.
[13:14] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: The horribly piece of crap isnt your computer. It is Adobe Flash.
[13:14] <Help23232> where is GRUB2 normally stored<
[13:14] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: So just use Chrome.
[13:15] <bekks> Help23232: in /boot, /etc and in the MBR of either a harddisk or a partition.
[13:15] <LonelyDanbo> why tell me to use the botnet?
[13:15] <pc_magas> tomreyn, by twesting on qemu it sais that is cannot find command find.
[13:15] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: Because you still believe in FUD.
[13:15] <Help23232> thank you bekks
[13:15] <LonelyDanbo> I dunno what FUD is
[13:15] <bekks> Help23232: Whats your actual problem?
[13:15] <showaz> LonelyDanbo:  youtube.com/testtube
[13:15] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt.
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  what botnet?
[13:16] <Help23232> had a dual boot win7/ubuntu 15.04 setup on an mbr disk
[13:16] <Help23232> tried to install ubuntu 15.10
[13:16] <LonelyDanbo> Windows is the botnet. Chrome is the botnet. It's an incorrectly applied term for uh... like official spyware sorta.
[13:16] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: You are spreading nonsense.
[13:16] <Help23232> installer crashed, GRUB produces the following @error: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found Entering rescue mode... grub rescue>
[13:17] <bekks> Help23232: Then you would need to boot a livecd, and fix grub.
[13:17] <tomreyn> LonelyDanbo: Maybe you are the kind of person who would be happy to pay someone to have your computer managed for you: http://www.ubuntu.com/management/ubuntu-advantage#ubuntu-advantage-for-desktop
[13:17] <bekks> Help23232: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Fixing_a_Broken_System
[13:17] <LonelyDanbo> I try, but it's never good enough. I built this computer. I did research for literally days {hours and hours} and I still got it WRONG. so horribly wrong that my game just locks up the whole computer.
[13:17] <showaz> LonelyDanbo: rhel - enterprise botnet?
[13:17] <Help23232> bekks> that is what i am trying
[13:18] <Help23232> boot repair didn!t solve the issue
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  what brings you here
[13:18] <Help23232> thinking about what to do next
[13:18] <TJ-> Help23232: are you current at the GRUB rescue prompt?
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> LonelyDanbo  there's no such thing as 100% safety, anywhere, ever
[13:18] <LonelyDanbo> my streaming video being terribly lately. it worked fine before.
[13:19] <Help23232> no, I am on a live CD. haven!t got a second computer.
[13:19] <bekks> Help23232: Did you read that exact article?
[13:19] <LonelyDanbo> I know but I feel like... I really have to give up and let every company know everything about me because I'm not smart enough to maintain a Linux installation.
[13:20] <bekks> LonelyDanbo: Linux isnt causing your issues as far as you told us.
[13:20] <Ben64> LonelyDanbo: just... install chrome? and stop with the woe is me crap
[13:21] <Help23232> bekks> i dont know enough,  is copying the grub2 files possible using a liveCD when the previous linux installation had been formatted<
[13:21] <bekks> Help23232: I asked you ar yes/no question. What is your answer?
[13:21] <bekks> *a
[13:21] <makk> Does Ubuntu provide somethink like debian/testing? To get some sort of rolling release?
[13:21] <Help23232> i have read this article but havent undestood all of it
[13:22] <bekks> Help23232: So what exactly was unclear to you?
[13:22] <TJ-> makk: The current in-development version, currently 16.04 Xenial
[13:23] <makk> TJ-, this in-development version is save for daily use or is it real development with many bugs?
[13:23] <bekks> makk: real development.
[13:24] <makk> ty
[13:24] <bekks> makk: For daily use, use 14.04 LTS or 15.10
[13:24] <Help23232> these methods refer to a previous existing installation
[13:24] <Help23232> which i dont have any, because i had formatted the root partition
[13:25] <TJ-> Help23232: if you formatted something then reinstall
[13:25] <Help23232> but there is still a grub recovery. If i had formatted it, where is it coming from
[13:25] <bekks> Help23232: Great, then start the installation again. You could have updated very easily too, but you nuked yout 15.04
[13:25] <Help23232> I have tried to install, but the installer crashes
[13:25] <bekks> Help23232: Then start the installation again.
[13:25] <frankchen_> How to install gstreamer
[13:26] <frankchen_> in 15.10
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> !find gstreamer
[13:26] <bekks> Help23232: And tell us the very exact error messages you get from the installer.
[13:26] <Help23232> i have tried the installer for like 6 times
[13:26] <TJ-> Help23232: did you verify the hash of the installer's ISO image you downloaded
[13:27] <Help23232> the exact error message is an installer had crashed, we will send a bug report with the integrated bug reporting tool
[13:27] <frankchen_> how to install it in apt-get??
[13:27] <Help23232> TJ no i havent. I dont know how to do that
[13:27] <TJ-> !sum | Help23232
[13:27] <TJ-> hmmm, forgot my factoid foo!
[13:28] <TJ-> !checksum | Help23232
[13:28] <Help23232> thank you.
[13:29] <frankchen_> TJ-: It's me . My wifi adapter finally works.Thank you
[13:29] <tomreyn> the next stepp will be difficult if you don't have another storage device to (re)write the iso to.
[13:30] <Skyrider> For hostapd I need to fill in a driver (conf file).. where can I find this specific driver for my device?
[13:30] <TJ-> frankchen_: oh... the RT8720 device ID issue?
[13:31] <frankchen_> YEP
[13:32] <twelveheaded> Hello, i'm trying out Ubuntu for the first time. I decided to move /tmp and /var/cache into ramdisk. However software-center crashes because of it. Is there a way to reset it so it can resume functioning?
[13:32] <TJ-> frankchen_: you're having to use the "echo ID > /sys/ ... " workaround still?
[13:32] <frankchen_> Nope
[13:32] <frankchen_> I use a driver to let it works
[13:32] <frankchen_> I edited some file too
[13:32] <TJ-> frankchen_: that's good. did you build the rt2800usb driver with the ID included as an alias?
[13:33] <TJ-> frankchen_: depending on how you did that, as soon as a kernel update is installed the driver will no longer be loaded
[13:33] <TJ-> frankchen_: and therefore the device will no longer be recognised again
[13:33] <baja> hi my wifi is not working im using ubuntu 14.04
[13:33] <frankchen_> Hmm...
[13:34] <baja> how do i get drivers and install
[13:34] <baja> frankchen_?
[13:35] <frankchen_> https://bitbucket.org/sanrath/mediatek_mt7610u_sta_driver_linux-64bit
[13:35] <Help23232> hmm so there is another problem. the LiveCD!s nautilus says I don!t have privileges to my previous Home folder
[13:35] <frankchen_> I use this driver and edit with the offical asus driver file
[13:36] <Help23232> is there a way access the folder
[13:36] <frankchen_> common/rtusb_dev_id.c
[13:37] <LegendThinker_> Having trouble with ubuntu 14.05 LTS. my wifi connection is dropping now and then while using ubuntu but working properly with other OS. Tried many many solutions given here and there over internet but none is solving this issue. Please Help...........
[13:37] <TJ-> frankchen_: Yes, as I thought. That's not the best way to fix it permanently. If you insist on building a replacement driver then the DKMS (Dynamic Kernel Module Supprt) is the best way since it works automatically to build the driver for newly updated kernels. Other than that a simple boot-time script loading the rt2800usb driver and writing the USB device ID to it would also work for all kernel versions
[13:39] <frankchen_> so what can i do for newer kernel to support it??
[13:39] <frankchen_> how do i  play a mp3 file in amarok IN KDE??
[13:42] <TJ-> frankchen_: I'd first prove the kernel's existing rt2800usb driver can control the device using the 'echo ID > /sys/..." method, and if so, I'd add those manual commands into the system's boot configuration
[13:42] <LegendThinker_>  Having trouble with ubuntu 14.05 LTS. my wifi connection is dropping now and then while using ubuntu but working properly with other OS. Tried many many solutions given here and there over internet but none is solving this issue. Please Help...........
[13:42] <bazhang> !info libmp3lame
[13:42] <bazhang> augh
[13:42] <LegendThinker_> should i downgrade to any lower version???
[13:42] <lo0open> Argh! The VPN tab is not visible in network-manager even though I have installed network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome. Any ideas on what might be wrong here?
[13:42] <TJ-> LegendThinker_: what wifi device is on the PC? "lspci -nn" will help identify it
[13:43] <TJ-> lo0open: is that after log-out/log-in ?
[13:43] <lo0open> TJ-: Yes, I even tried a complete reboot
[13:44] <lo0open> As well as restarting it manually using init.d-scripts
[13:44] <TJ-> lo0open: you're using the Unity or Gnome desktops?
[13:44] <lo0open> Unity
[13:45] <TJ-> lo0open: as it seems to be the GUI component missing, have you looked for clues in $HOME/.xsession-errors ?
[13:46] <anticore> greetings. i have two bugs happening on conky. i'm on ubuntu 15.10. one is: when i start my computer and login to my account, conky starts with a border. i'm using window type override and transparent yes.
[13:46] <anticore> the other one is: when i right click on the desktop, and then click to close the menu, conky starts opening windows over itself. the conky config i have is slightly transparent so you can see them piling up.
[13:46] <anticore> how can i fix both of these things?
[13:46] <TJ-> lo0open: also, as the GUI component would probably not be shown if the NM-openvpn component isn't running, might be worth checking /var/log/syslog for indications of whether NM loaded it
[13:48] <lo0open> TJ-: .xession-errors contains the following http://paste.ubuntu.com/14368960/
[13:48] <lo0open> TJ-: Don't know if it's related to the problem or not though...
[13:48] <lo0open> TJ-: I'll check the log as suggested
[13:49] <baja> frankchen_ i  have installed the drivers
[13:51] <lo0open> TJ-: It seems like the openvpn service starts as it should. The syslog file gives the output "Started OpenVPN service."
[13:52] <Skyrider> ... why is it SO hard to create a AP on ubuntu -_-
[13:53] <baja> frankchen_  still wireless is not working?
[13:53] <Skyrider> I have a wireless adapter, that I want to use as hotspot.. ubuntu won't let me on desktop as there's no hotspot option.
[13:53] <makk> anticore, mabe you get help in the #conky irc channel
[13:53] <anticore> makk: nobody answers :(
[13:53] <Skyrider> I did check the hardware on ubuntu, and it says AP/VLAN is supported.
[13:53] <Skyrider> So it should, work.
[13:54] <makk> anticore, thats sad sorry for you
[13:55] <frankchen_> TJ-: no permission
[13:56] <ccup> Skyrider: do you have wi installed?
[13:56] <Skyrider> iw list?
[13:56] <ccup> the interface modes are supported for an AP/VLAN
[13:57] <ccup> Skyrider: yes
[13:57] <Skyrider> I got the AP/VLAN from there
[13:58] <Skyrider> It says supported interface modes... IBSS,  managed, AP, AP/VLAN, WDS, Monitor, mesh point
[13:58] <ccup> Skyrider: are you connected wireless right now?
[13:58] <Skyrider> not atm.
[13:58] <makk> Skyrider, maybe this link is helping http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/09/3-ways-create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu/
[13:58] <Skyrider> When I create one however, only 2 modes are available.
[13:58] <Skyrider> Found that one 2 days ago
[13:59] <ccup> Infrastructure?
[13:59] <Skyrider> Ya.
[13:59] <Skyrider> And something else.
[14:00] <Skyrider> ad-hoc
[14:01] <Help23232> TJ are zou still ici<
[14:01] <Help23232> here<
[14:01] <vooze> Anyone know where the first emojis are from (which font?) I just installed noto-emojis, but I want to remove the old ones thats "blocking" some of the new.
[14:01] <vooze> http://i.imgur.com/kmlCY1t.png
[14:02] <Skyrider> And ap-hotspot is no good.
[14:02] <Skyrider> Doesn't work for me (cant install it, not found)
[14:03] <TJ-> lo0open: you also need to confirm the network-manager-openvpn plugin is loaded. You should see something similar to: "NetworkManager[1184]: <info>  VPN: loaded org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.openvpn"
[14:05] <ccup> Skyrider: do you have hostapd installed?
[14:05] <lo0open> TJ-: Yes I'm getting that message
[14:05] <lo0open> The message that tells me that VPN was loadded
[14:05] <lo0open> *loaded
[14:06] <TJ-> lo0open: OK, so the missing GUI isn't due to that not loading. How are you determining that the openvpn connection editor is missing?
[14:06] <ccup> Skyrider: this link might help out: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,6300
[14:07] <ccup> goes through the whole process
[14:07] <lo0open> TJ-: I open edit connections. Choose an existing WIFI connection -> Click Edit. Once there I can see that the VPN tab is missing.
[14:08] <TJ-> lo0open: you create a NEW VPN connection first, it's separate from the current connections
[14:09] <TJ-> lo0open: VPN connections are separate entities, alongside (not subsidary to) other connections
[14:09] <lo0open> TJ-: I don't have any VPN connection added, is this required for the VPN tab to appear?
[14:10] <TJ-> lo0open: as far as I recall there is no 'vpn' tab as part of an existing connection. There is a drop-down combo box to select a VPN connection to activate when a physical connection is activated
[14:11] <baris76> hey..
[14:12] <lo0open> TJ-: Alright, I'll try adding a VPN connection then
[14:13] <lo0open> TJ-: BTW thanks for the help!
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:15] <Jordan_yx> hi
[14:15] <Jordan_yx> Someone is Chinese here?
[14:17] <Help23232> quit
[14:17] <makk> lo0open, do you see any other option for vpn than pptp, if yoi create a vpn conection with the networkmanager?
[14:17] <k1l> !cn | Jordan_yx
[14:18] <Jordan_yx> unbuntu tw ?
[14:18] <jwtiyar> i cant burn .iso files in ubuntu by using aything
[14:18] <jwtiyar> even k3b and winusb
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Jordan_yx  tw is taiwan
[14:19] <k1l> jwtiyar: burn to what?
[14:19] <jwtiyar> k1l, i want to burn windows.iso to usb or DVD
[14:19] <jwtiyar> every i get error
[14:19] <k1l> jwtiyar: well, windows.isos are a bit differnet. most linux usb makers dont work with that
[14:20] <makk> maybe the dd comand can help, but you have to lock it up
[14:20] <jwtiyar> k1l, i tried every thing with usb didnt work so i tried with blank DVD also didnt work
[14:20] <jwtiyar> i dont know whats wrong
[14:20] <k1l> no, dd doesnt work with windows isos to put on usb
[14:20] <TJ-> jwtiyar: it's not possible to 'burn' to USB. You can *copy* to it
[14:20] <jwtiyar> k1l, makk dd for grub will work
[14:21] <jwtiyar> TJ-, how? by ISOMount app?
[14:21] <lo0open> makk: I put this problem aside for a moment, will check later on how to add a VPN, thanks for the response, I'll keep you updated
[14:21] <lo0open> :)
[14:21] <k1l> jwtiyar: best is to get a windows and use the windows tools to make a windows-usb
[14:22] <jwtiyar> k1l, this is a problem i dont have windows OS now :(
[14:22] <jwtiyar> k1l, but this is little embarrassing to our Ubuntu :) if we cant do it
[14:22] <k1l> jwtiyar: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu
[14:23] <k1l> jwtiyar: if that is not working and even the dvd is not working i bet the .iso is bad.
[14:23] <jwtiyar> i tried this k1l
[14:23] <theweirdn8> how do u detect a usb via C++ on ubuntu?
[14:23] <k1l> jwtiyar: no, its a shame windows doesnt support anything beside windows.
[14:23] <k1l> jwtiyar: so check the isos md5sum or such.
[14:23] <TJ-> theweirdn8: huh?
[14:24] <TJ-> theweirdn8: link to libusb maybe?
[14:24] <jwtiyar> k1l, its working because i tested ,iso by isomount app and shows everything no error
[14:24] <Skyrider> I think I'll give up..
[14:24] <Skyrider> getting sick of this
[14:24] <jwtiyar> k1l, md5 is ok i tested with k3b
[14:24] <Skyrider> I installed kde-nm-connection-editor, set up the info SSID, etc..
[14:24] <Skyrider> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/wifi-hotspot-connected.png <- but I'm NEVER getting that.
[14:25] <Skyrider> Regardless how many times I connect to the hidden wi-fi network I created
[14:25] <TJ-> Skyrider: are you trying to create an AP on an active wifi device that you're also using as a client on an existing wifi network?
[14:26] <jwtiyar> k1l, something else i have some problem with understanding uefi anf mbr , can u give some info which one to use?
[14:26] <Skyrider> Nope. The wifi itself is disconnected.
[14:26] <Skyrider> Not connected to any access point.
[14:26] <theweirdn8> http://i.imgur.com/zqp5R1K.png
[14:26] <TJ-> Skyrider: I'd consult /var/log/syslog then, network-manager is very verbose in what is doing
[14:27] <Skyrider> meh.. why isn't it just simple.
[14:27] <Guest17936> Why ubuntu choose shutty systemd?
[14:27] <k1l> jwtiyar: uefi is the "new bios". on those machines the old bios boot is called legacy boot. ubuntu works with both. but you cant switch after you installed the OS
[14:28] <Help2323232> what is the preferred method for creating usb installation media? .I have tried the 'start disk creator' but even though the md5 was verified, the machine threw boot error for me
[14:28] <k1l> Guest17936: since no one helped on upstart and no one else wanted to use it.
[14:28] <charlie_> ubuntu love <3
[14:28] <charlie_> heahehaheahea
[14:28] <Skyrider> There we go
[14:28] <Skyrider> TJ-: wlx00259c96f84c: Driver does not support AP mode
[14:28] <jwtiyar> mine is legacy k1l i think
[14:28] <TJ-> Skyrider: because what you're doing is not simple, despite a GUI trying to hide the complexity from you
[14:28] <TJ-> Skyrider: there you fo
[14:28] <k1l> Help2323232: what exact errors?
[14:28] <Skyrider> Which is weird, because the lw info says it does.
[14:28] <TJ-> s/fo/go/
[14:29] <Skyrider> So, quite.. weird..
[14:29] <makk> TJ-, what that means?
[14:29] <Guest17936> Morons. Redhat spoiled very strongly quality of the distribution kits, you want that also Ubuntu was such?
[14:29] <TJ-> Skyrider: what's the device chipset? which driver is it using? does it need an alternate firmware loading to support infrastructure/AP mode ?
[14:29] <k1l> jwtiyar: you choose that setting before the install. then you keep it that way.
[14:30] <Skyrider> 1 sec, unplugging it.
[14:30] <k1l> Guest17936: do you have a specific support issue? this channel is not for ranting and calling names.
[14:30] <TJ-> !ot for non-support issues | Guest17936
[14:30] <Guest17936> #ubuntu-offtopic?
[14:30] <jwtiyar> k1l`, i asked because there is different tutorials about both i dont know which one to use
[14:30] <Guest17936> #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:31] <Skyrider> Lets see... cisco linksys WUSB600N v2
[14:33] <Skyrider> As for the driver TJ- ... rt2800usb
[14:36] <makk> Skyrider, did you saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580657
[14:36] <makk> they say that RT2870USB is only for version 1
[14:38] <Skyrider> :-\
[14:38] <makk> but this is an old post maybe its different by now
[14:38] <Skyrider> ubuntu detects the adapter fine though.
[14:39] <terimbol> JUST INSTALLED UBUNTU ON THIS MACBOOK
[14:39] <terimbol> Going to reboot it now
[14:39] <terimbol> Someone cross their fingers for me
[14:39] <reltih-_-floda> lol
[14:39] <terimbol> Someone pray that apple doesn't read what I just read
[14:39] <terimbol> And typed
[14:39] <terimbol> I should not be doing this with so little sleep
[14:40] <Skyrider> https://wiki.debian.org/rt2800usb
[14:40] <reltih-_-floda> just dont write hunter2
[14:40] <Skyrider> So I'm screwed now?
[14:41] <TJ-> Skyrider: It looks like the infrastructure support for that driver will work for *some* devices, but not all. Which exact USB device ID is it "lsusb" ?
[14:41] <Skyrider> 1 sec, re-adding ap.
[14:41] <dorfhyn> 0/
[14:41] <Skyrider> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 1737:0079 Linksys WUSB600N v2 Dual-Band Wireless-N Network Adapter [Ralink RT3572]
[14:42] <makk> Skyrider, iam not sure maybe blacklist the rt2800usb module and try to get the RT3572USB loaded, if this even exist
[14:42] <TJ-> Skyrider: so 1737:0079 ... lets see what the driver does with that
[14:43] <TJ-> Skyrider: you have the correct driver; there is no other: "modules.alias:alias usb:v1737p0079d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in* rt2800usb"
[14:43] <Skyrider> yay...
[14:43] <sw0rdfish> hi, should I install chrome via the cli by adding the google repos or just the installer from their website?
[14:43] <Skyrider> But isnt that 'rt2800'?
[14:44] <k1l> sw0rdfish: the installer will add a ppa already.
[14:44] <k1l> sw0rdfish: well, "installer". its a .deb package
[14:44] <makk> TJ-, how do you know that there is no other driver?
[14:44] <Skyrider> TJ- v1737?
[14:45] <sw0rdfish> right.
[14:46] <sw0rdfish> thanks k1l
[14:48] <jwtiyar> for 64  i have to just this 386 to x64 ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14369475/
[14:49] <TJ-> Skyrider: which kernel version are you using "uname -r" ?
[14:49] <Skyrider> 4.1.13-v7+
[14:50] <terentoler> Watch me dick up this install by upgrading it
[14:50] <terentoler> That's exactly how I would do that
[14:51] <TJ-> Skyrider: I'm looking at the kernel source. The only clue I can see, where the device is advertising infrastructure support, is to disable hardware encryption using the module's nohwcrypt parm
[14:52] <Skyrider> I have no clue what that means.
[14:52] <TJ-> Skyrider: "modinfo -F parm rt2800usb"
[14:52] <Skyrider> nohwcrypt:Disable hardware encryption. (bool)
[14:54] <TJ-> Skyrider: if you add a file to the system's module configuration, with "echo 'options rt2800usb nohwcrypt=1' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/rt2800usb.conf" and then unload/reload the module, that'll use the setting
[14:55] <frankchen_> Skyrider: Hello
[14:55] <Skyrider> hi
[14:56] <frankchen_> Are you using Rt2800,too??
[14:56] <Skyrider> WUSB600N v2
[14:56] <Skyrider> options rt2800usb nohwcrypt=1 - which module do I reload?
[14:57] <makk> rt2800usb i guess
[14:57] <Skyrider> I mean, which command :p
[14:57] <frankchen_> oops
[14:58] <makk> modprobe module_name i think
[14:58] <Skyrider> Ya, guess I found it..
[14:58] <Skyrider> so.. now what? :p
[14:59] <TJ-> Skyrider: you can simply remove/replug the device to have the driver unload/reload
[14:59] <TJ-> Skyrider: test the device in infrastructure mode; see if it has made a difference
[14:59] <Skyrider> holy..
[15:00] <Skyrider> if I connect to the hidden wifi network, I can see the SSID from my phone now
[15:00] <Skyrider> I need to save this convo, thanks!
[15:00] <makk> TJ-, nice work, today i learned somthink cool. How did you know that?
[15:01] <Skyrider> Why is this 'encrypt' enabled?
[15:01] <Skyrider> by default
[15:01] <ctlaltdel> try turning it off
[15:01] <Skyrider> Wifi connect to hotspot works, internet works using LAN..
[15:01] <frankchen_> cant amarok  play mp3??
[15:01] <Skyrider> damn, no problems.
[15:02] <makk> TJ-, can you explain what options rt2800usb nohwcrypt=1' did?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> frankchen_  maybe yoy have to install the restricted extras
[15:03] <frankchen_> after installed it??
[15:03] <TJ-> Skyrider: OK, so that setting is permanent since you wrote it to a system config file.
[15:03] <Skyrider> until I reinstall of course
[15:03] <YamakasY> will it be easy to upgrade from 14.04 lts to 16.04 lts ?
[15:04] <TJ-> makk: doesn't use the chipset's hardware encryption engine
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> frankchen_  can you play mp3 with any other media player?
[15:04] <TJ-> Skyrider: well, yes, but that should be rare event unless you're good at breaking things :D
[15:04] <Skyrider> Using a pi2
[15:04] <Skyrider> So ya.. I often break stuff on it :D
[15:05] <frankchen_> gnome player??
[15:05] <TJ-> Skyrider: best way to learn quickly :P
[15:05] <makk> TJ-, cool shit
[15:06] <TJ-> Skyrider: encryption offload is enabled by default since clients in the usual managed or ad-hoc modes cna benefit from it
[15:06] <Skyrider> Would have been easier if there was simple 'function' or 'option' for it though.
[15:06] <MonkeyDust> frankchen_  try audacious or vlc
[15:06] <Skyrider> Rather than adding it into command lines / config files.
[15:06] <TJ-> Skyrider: there was! You just needed to know about it
[15:06] <TJ-> Skyrider: config files ARE Linux!
[15:07] <Skyrider> Im referring on desktop though :D
[15:07] <OneM_Industries> Hey, how would I test if linux can see the COM1 header on my motherboard?
[15:07] <Skyrider> Also, how can I tell if this device supports 5ghz?
[15:08] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: that'd be a UART, which should be reported in the dmesg / kern.log output
[15:08] <OneM_Industries> And do it in a human readable format.
[15:08] <Skyrider> IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlx00259c96f84c: link is not ready
[15:08] <Skyrider> I assume thats a no go
[15:08] <Help2323232> Hello,  I was trying to install Ubuntu/gnome 15.10 but it crashed. Where in the crash report can I find where did it go wrong<
[15:09] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: usually the southbridge emulates a 16550 UART chipset
[15:09] <terentoler> Xenial is still pre-release, right?
[15:09] <terentoler> How do I get the software updater to put me on Wily instead of Xenial?
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> terentoler  yes, development
[15:09] <Skyrider> mmhhh.. 5gh uses ipv6?
[15:09] <frankchen_> and how do i uninstall gnome player>>
[15:09] <TJ-> Skyrider: errr, those are orthogonal issues (unrelated)
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> terentoler  how/where did you get xenial?
[15:10] <terentoler> MonkeyDust: software updater on 14.04 was telling me that.  I told it to instead upgrade me to "any version," and NOW it recommends 14.10
[15:10] <terentoler> So I'll go to 14.10
[15:10] <nvt> I remember having a tool in terminal when writing for example vim /home/ and then ctrl + R, it gave me the list of best hist in the command history
[15:10] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: "dmesg | grep 16500" might report the interface
[15:10] <nvt> any idea what it was
[15:10] <terentoler> and then it'll upgrade me elsewhere, right?
[15:10] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: typo! "dmesg | grep 16550"
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> terentoler  keep 14.04 ... 14.10 is dead
[15:10] <Skyrider> TJ- cant seem to use 5ghz though :(
[15:10] <Skyrider> only 2.4 works, need to know if this device supports it.
[15:11] <terentoler> MonkeyDust: I want 15.10
[15:11] <OneM_Industries> TJ-: Thank you, trying that now.
[15:11] <TJ-> Skyrider: you'd have to check the device chipset specs
[15:11] <k1l> terentoler: 14.10 is already shut down.
[15:11] <Skyrider> tw ?
[15:11] <k1l> terentoler: then isntall 15.10 from the beginning.
[15:11] <OneM_Industries> Woah.
[15:11] <terentoler> k1l: It's on a macbook that WON'T BOOT from 15.10, lol
[15:11] <OneM_Industries> It does see it!
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> terentoler  don't struggle with 15.10 ... 16.04 lts will soon be released
[15:11] <terentoler> because 15.10 does not have a +mac version of the .iso
[15:11] <Skyrider> ** iw, sorry.
[15:11] <terentoler> Struggle?
[15:11] <OneM_Industries> [    1.331485] Serial: 8250/16550 driver, 32 ports, IRQ sharing enabled[    1.351953] 00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud = 115200) is a 16550A
[15:11] <Skyrider> not sure where to look for on iw though.
[15:12] <OneM_Industries> Now, to figure out how to connect things to that...
[15:12] <TJ-> Skyrider: the Cisco specs claim it is dual-band
[15:12] <Skyrider> indeed.
[15:12] <terentoler> 15.10 has better support right now for the hardware.  I think I will just flash libreboot so that I can boot the 15.10 disk WITHOUT a mac version ISO
[15:12] <terentoler> So I'll be back!
[15:12] <Skyrider> But when I try to set it to 5ghz, it'll no longer connect.
[15:13] <TJ-> Skyrider: check the kern.log output to see what the device cfg80211 is doing. "tail -f /var/log/kern.log" to watch it live
[15:14] <TJ-> OneM_Industries: connect something like 'screen' or 'minicom' to /dev/ttyS0
[15:14] <OneM_Industries> Ah ha.
[15:14] <Skyrider> Jan  2 16:14:08 mend-pi kernel: [ 6984.042518] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlx00259c96f84c: link is not ready
[15:14] <OneM_Industries> How do I do that?
[15:14] <Skyrider> its trying to use ipv6?..
[15:14] <TJ-> Skyrider: all interfaces do that, nothing unusual
[15:15] <TJ-> Skyrider: what you're looking for is messages from the cfg8011 module that controls frequency selections
[15:15] <TJ-> cfg80211 module
[15:15] <frankchen_> android sdk in apt??
[15:15] <Skyrider> alrighty, tailing.. let me try again
[15:16] <Skyrider> besides the ipv6
[15:16] <Skyrider> nf_conntrack: falling back to vmalloc. is the only new thing.
[15:16] <TJ-> Skyrider: how are you instruction the device to switch bands?
[15:16] <TJ-> s/instruction/instructing/
[15:17] <Skyrider> kde nm network editor
[15:17] <Skyrider> or something
[15:17] <Skyrider> **network manager
[15:18] <Skyrider> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/share-internet-with-android-ubuntu-1404/
[15:18] <Skyrider> Seeing ap-hotspot aint working for me.
[15:19] <TJ-> Skyrider: so you're selected the "A Band" ... so instead of kern.log, check /var/log/syslog (that's where Network Manager logs everything it does)
[15:20] <Skyrider> mmhhhh
[15:20] <TJ-> Skyrider: as a FYI to determine the band support, its in the "iwconfig" output: "IEEE 802.11abgn"
[15:21] <Skyrider> wlx00259c96f84c  IEEE 802.11abgn  ESSID:off/any
[15:21] <Skyrider> indeed
[15:22] <Skyrider> Jan  2 16:22:26 mend-pi wpa_supplicant[961]: wlx00259c96f84c: Failed to start AP functionality
[15:23] <Skyrider> and bunch of other warnings
[15:23] <B0bsF1sh> is there a full log of dist-upgrade somewhere
[15:23] <TJ-> Skyrider: OK, so wpa_supplicant tells us it can't do it. That might suggest the firmware doesn't support it in the A band, since we know the driver does
[15:23] <Skyrider> Should I just remove the KDE network manager?
[15:24] <Skyrider> And use a 'little' hack instead: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/09/3-ways-create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu/
[15:24] <Skyrider> 3rd option
[15:26] <B0bsF1sh> How do I "fix" all my PPAs that were disabled when I upgraded to trusty? In /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ they have comments that they were disabled, but uncommenting and doing an apt-get upgrade, dist-upgrade, and explicit install <package> still doesn't find new versions, even though there have been several new versions released.
[15:26] <Skyrider> using trusty ppa's?
[15:26] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: that is the wrong way
[15:27] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: first: apt-get update will read all the repos and get the latest packages lists.
[15:27] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: then there could be the case that the PPA doesnt have packages for the new release. so that will give you errors. so better check before what PPAs do work at all
[15:29] <TJ-> Skyrider: the issue you're seeing now is in the firmware, or the driver. Changing the tool used to configure it won't help - everything uses wpa_supplicant to manage the links
[15:29] <Skyrider> aw :(
[15:29] <Skyrider> Odd though, dual = 2,4 and 5ghz, correct?
[15:29] <B0bsF1sh> Well I'm being told my version is out of date and I need to upgrade, and others using Ubuntu are able to upgrade, so I don't think it's because there's just no update available
[15:29] <TJ-> Skyrider: can you pastebin all those messages from the log when you selected the A band ?
[15:30] <Skyrider> Could try
[15:30] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: you are now talking about a different issue?
[15:30] <TJ-> B0bsF1sh: those disabled PPA sources.list files may still refer to the previous release codename, not 'trusty'
[15:31] <TJ-> Skyrider: "pastebinit <( tail -n 500 /var/log/syslog )"
[15:32] <Skyrider> Ya..
[15:32] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: TJ- the PPAs get disabled while the upgrade. you need to manually enable them again. but often there are no packages for the new release or you dont need them anymore since the new release got the wanted version anyway. so check the PPAs.
[15:32] <Skyrider> That'll be a small problem :p
[15:32] <Skyrider> My zoneminder is running as well, camera logs.
[15:32] <Skyrider> let me shut that down and clean the log files.
[15:33] <compdoc> zoneminder is great
[15:33] <Skyrider> How to clean the log files?
[15:34] <Skyrider> Trying > but, no dice
[15:34] <B0bsF1sh> TJ-: It's pointing to "master main" - not to a specific release name. looking at the install guide there's no mention of a different one for different ubuntu versions.
[15:35] <Skyrider> there we go
[15:35] <Skyrider> Cleared.
[15:35] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: details matter. what ubuntu are you on? what PPA are we talking about? what is the exact error now?
[15:38] <dcz> is there any android developer here ?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> dcz  this is ubuntu support
[15:40] <k1l> dcz: #android
[15:40] <Skyrider> TJ- almost ready
[15:40] <dcz> they dont give a shit :D
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> dcz  no such language here.. you're in the wrong channrl
[15:41] <ztane> well, I was going to use that word about unity
[15:41] <Skyrider> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14370037/
[15:42] <Skyrider> piestest is the obvious test name I used for the connection.
[15:42] <ztane> upgraded this computer to 15.10, and now "search your computer" cannot find any programs.
[15:43] <ztane> so I had to open nautilus and locate konsole in /usr/bin to open it, now how handy is that?
[15:43] <ztane> anyone have any idea how to fix?
[15:43] <k1l> ztane: what did you do before? like removing zeitgeist or other pointless things because someone made FUD about unity?
[15:43] <Skyrider> no clue, sorry :(
[15:44] <Skyrider> TJ- ping me when you have any idea what 'might' be wrong.. ^^.
[15:46] <ztane> k1l: nothing. upgraded.
[15:46] <makk> Skyrider, you need ipv6? did you try to disable ipv6?
[15:48] <Skyrider> don't need it
[15:48] <Skyrider> Not sure how to disable it though..
[15:48] <Skyrider> I attempted to set ipv6 to ignore, but that didn't do the trick.
[15:48] <makk> sad
[15:49] <ztane> I've disabled the "recent files" and "network search" as they were pointless
[15:50] <Skyrider> ipv6 disabled through sysctl.conf
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> ztane  if you uninstall zeitgeist, ubuntu will not even remember them
[15:51] <TJ-> Skyrider: sorry, was doing other things. I'll look now
[15:51] <Skyrider> (wlx00259c96f84c): Activation: failed for connection 'piestest' - (wlx00259c96f84c): device state change: failed -> disconnected (reason 'none') [120 30 0]
[15:51] <Skyrider> Weird..
[15:52] <tusharkumar> Hello all
[15:52] <ztane> MonkeyDust: I haven't uninstalled anything. I have disabled remembering "recently used files"
[15:52] <TJ-> Skyrider: as before, the key is "wpa_supplicant[961]: wlx00259c96f84c: Failed to start AP functionality"
[15:52] <ztane> zeitgeist was runnign
[15:52] <Skyrider> meh!
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> ztane  i saying that you *can* uninstall zeitgeist
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> i'm*
[15:53] <Skyrider> TJ- https://community.linksys.com/t5/Wireless-Adapters/UBUNTU-WUSB600N-v2-WORKS/td-p/318026/page/4
[15:53] <Skyrider> He got it to work..
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> ztane  http://hardenubuntu.com/disable-services/disable-zeitgeist/
[15:54] <ztane> that is not my problem
[15:54] <ztane> my problem is that dash does not find say "konsole"
[15:54] <k1l> ztane: did you try to relogin?
[15:54] <ztane> and since it wasn't pinned, I needed to browse it with nautilus
[15:55] <Skyrider> So if he got it to work, why can't i :(
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> ztane  is konsole even installed? it's for kde... click on the A, below on your screen, to look for it
[15:55] <ztane> ah after relogin works again...
[15:55] <ztane> I just had booted the computer
[15:57] <ztane> hmm, ofc alt-f2 could have worked as well
[15:59] <frankchen_> Why steam wont start in 15.10??
[16:00] <TJ-> Skyrider: the source-code of wpa_supplicant indicates that error occurs if the internal WPA driver has a problem
[16:00] <jpdumont> exit
[16:00] <Skyrider> So what do I do now.
[16:00] <B0bsF1sh> k1l: I am on Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS. There is no error, it just says the package "is already the newest version." http://apt.sonarr.tv/ master main
[16:01] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: what package?
[16:01] <TJ-> Skyrider: 1st check which drivers it supports: "wpa_supplicant -h | grep -A 8  ^drivers: "
[16:02] <B0bsF1sh> Oh package name is nzbdrone
[16:03] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: "sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy nzbdrone" in a pastebin service please. link it here
[16:03] <TJ-> Skyrider: that forum post isn't talking about Infrastructure mode; only that the device worked on Ubuntu 12.04
[16:04] <Skyrider> So 5ghz mode works on 12.04
[16:04] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: and since that 3rd party repo doesnt use ubuntu releases. there is no new version now. so the version of the program is the same as on the old ubuntu
[16:06] <B0bsF1sh> errrmmm. So, wonder why I'm told the version is so old and I need to update ... is there a different repo? etc. I'll try to find out.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14370295/
[16:06] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: so what ubuntu version you were using before?
[16:06] <B0bsF1sh> Whoah whoah wait a minute
[16:07] <TJ-> Skyrider: there's no mention there of 802.11a; just that the driver 'works' - that was all when that device was new and chipset support wasn't widely avaliable in the kernel
[16:07] <B0bsF1sh> It actually upgraded at some point in all these commands I've been running. I was on  2.0.0.3530 and now it says I'm on 2.0.0.3645. So it did upgrade. Maybe it was the dist-upgrade, but I missed any messages telling me that it did
[16:07] <B0bsF1sh> I was on 12.04 LTS now on 14.04 LTS
[16:08] <B0bsF1sh> k1l: So um, thanks for the help and info, I bumbled around enough that I got it going.
[16:08] <k1l> B0bsF1sh: no. you need to run apt-get update to get the latest packages list from the repos first.
[16:08] <Skyrider> So because of tha kernel.. i am screwed :p
[16:08] <Skyrider> unless I downgrade?
[16:08] <TJ-> Skyrider: no, probably due to the firmware binary blob
[16:09] <Skyrider> I assume I cannot use 5ghz mode regardless./
[16:09] <TJ-> Skyrider: you've already proved the driver can do infrastructure mode
[16:09] <Skyrider> Well, you did.. in the end
[16:09] <Skyrider> ^^
[16:09] <TJ-> Skyrider: Never assume. Do you have a 5GHz access point operating nearby you can spot using "sudo iwlist <DEV> scan" whilst in 802.11a band?
[16:10] <TJ-> Skyrider: are you able to make your smartphone operate as an 802.11a AP?
[16:11] <TJ-> Skyrider: that would allow you to prove the device can see and connect on 802.11a, then you've reduced the problem to being AP mode on 802.11a for sure
[16:11] <nopel0rd> Hello, how do I install libimobiledevice-1.2.0 in Ubuntu 14.04? I've unzipped it and managed to cd /home/muhdrive/Downloads/libimobiledevice-1.2.0. What do I do now? Which commands should I run now?
[16:12] <TJ-> nopel0rd: read the instructions that come with the sourcecode
[16:12] <helloworld69> hi guys
[16:13] <helloworld69> When I log into phpmyadmin I get this error: The phpMyAdmin configuration storage is not completely configured, some extended features have been deactivated
[16:13] <home> can please anyone help me to install glibc in ubuntu 15.10
[16:13] <OerHeks> nopel0rd, build it? http://askubuntu.com/questions/598940/libimobiledevice-1-2-ios-8-support-for-ubuntu-14-04-trusty/605198
[16:14] <Skyrider> TJ- <dev>?
[16:14] <OerHeks> nopel0rd, 1.20 will be available in the next ubuntu version, https://launchpad.net/libimobiledevice
[16:14] <TJ-> home: it's already installed
[16:14] <TJ-> Skyrider: whatever the wifi device name is
[16:14] <Skyrider> ah
[16:15] <Skyrider> wlx00259c96f84c  Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported
[16:15] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: So, will it not work in Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:15] <B0bsF1sh> Does a single space in front of "deb" in an /etc/apt/sources.list.d file disable checking for updates?
[16:15] <korst3n> Hello, there's a mysterious "-bash" process using 100% CPU. strace results in  "read(0, "", 1)                          = 0". any ideas on how to find the cause and the fix?
[16:15] <OerHeks> nopel0rd, dunno, did you build & try ?
[16:15] <TJ-> Skyrider: aha, because its probably still in Infrastructure mode. Need to switch it back to either Managed mode, or Ad-hoc
[16:15] <home> but when I am trying to install MS ODBC DRIVER....it is saying it is not installed
[16:15] <Skyrider> ouch :(
[16:16] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: I've typed ./autogen.sh, but, it throws -bash: ./autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[16:17] <dontknow> B0bsF1sh, you can use # to disable mirror
[16:17] <Skyrider> TJ- I can use my mobile for 5ghz.
[16:17] <B0bsF1sh> dontknow: I'm wondering if the single space unintentionally disabled it (I wanted it enabled). In apt-get update it showed Ign instead of Hit for it
[16:18] <Skyrider> or not..
[16:18] <Skyrider> stupid CM13
[16:18] <OerHeks> nopel0rd, from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware >> in order to run the configure and autogen.sh files that come with many programs: sudo apt-get install automake
[16:20] <helloworld69> When I log into phpmyadmin I get this error: The phpMyAdmin configuration storage is not completely configured, some extended features have been deactivated
[16:20] <TJ-> Skyrider: Pro Tip: if you want to control the Wifi interface completely you can use the WPA supplication's command-line, with "sudo wpa_cli -i <DEV>" ... and then at its command-line type "help" for a list of commands
[16:22] <home> please anyone help me to install glibc in ubuntu 15.10
[16:23] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: Okya, I'll follow the instructions on it. Thanks.
[16:23] <OerHeks> home, what makes you think you have no glibc? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc
[16:23] <Skyrider> strange..
[16:24] <makk> home, glibc should be installed allready, glibc is kind of a standart based library that is aleway istalled if iam not minformed
[16:24] <Skyrider> I have the option to make a 5ghz hotspot, yet I can't.
[16:24] <TJ-> Skyrider: what country are you in?
[16:24] <Skyrider> nl
[16:24] <Skyrider> This is on my mobile btw.
[16:25] <Skyrider> aha
[16:25] <Skyrider> now it works
[16:25] <Skyrider> nvm, lol
[16:25] <makk> helloworld69, you should maybe ask in the ##php channel about phpmyadmin
[16:25] <BlackFate> helloworld69, if you google that error, you will find tons of posts
[16:25] <TJ-> Skyrider: 802.11a has to detect local RADAR and other sources so as not to interfere with them; so sometimes the device will refuse to operate in some channels in the band
[16:26] <home> then please help me to resolve this error when I am trying to install MS ODBC DRIVER
[16:26] <Skyrider> TJ- can you suggest a package for me to remote control (the main desktop) on ubuntu?
[16:26] <home> [Sat Jan 2 17:08:50 IST 2016] The glibc library was not found installed in the RPM database.
[16:26] <Skyrider> I prefer not to keep walking to my pi.
[16:26] <OerHeks> home, this is ubuntu support, we don't use rpm
[16:27] <TJ-> Skyrider: well, my preference is always using the command-line, so I'd recommend using SSH (openssh-server on the 'server' side)
[16:27] <helloworld69> I allready used all tons of options to solve it but none helps
[16:27] <OerHeks> home find support in  #fedora or #opensuse or #redhat?
[16:27] <helloworld69> I tryid to get into php room but I need to be invited
[16:28] <OerHeks> you might need to register first, helloworld69
[16:28] <OerHeks> !register
[16:28] <olpirn> Hello. I'm having an Ubuntu issue and have found this channel. Can somebody please help?
[16:28] <OerHeks> some channels are not open like ubuntu, to stop spambots and trolls.
[16:29] <makk> helloworld69, wich php channel you joined i had no problems zo join ##php
[16:29] <OerHeks> olpirn, just ask, wait and see
[16:29] <home> then please help me to install MS ODBC DRIVER in ubuntu 15.10
[16:29] <Skyrider> TJ- I prefer ssh as well
[16:29] <Skyrider> But these KDE manager is GUI
[16:29] <Skyrider> *this
[16:29] <OerHeks> home, with RPM ?
[16:29] <TJ-> helloworld69: it's ##php  channel not #php
[16:30] <olpirn> Thanks, OerHeks.
[16:30] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: Package gcj is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source
[16:30] <TJ-> Skyrider: you don't need the GUI to control those though. there's 'nmcli'
[16:30] <helloworld69> thanks
[16:30] <Skyrider> Ya, no idea how to use that
[16:30] <home> what ever method you think it is possible
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> !find odbc
[16:30] <Skyrider> Then again
[16:31] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: What do I do now? Should I install Java or something?
[16:31] <TJ-> home: what does "cat /etc/issue" report ?
[16:31] <Skyrider> with nmcli -g I can see the wifi connection I set up
[16:31] <Skyrider> No idea how to disable that though..
[16:32] <TJ-> Skyrider: "nmcli con [up|down] id <connection-name> "
[16:32] <home> Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[16:32] <Skyrider> How do I make it connect again hidden with the wifi?
[16:32] <TJ-> Skyrider: if the connection name has spaces in it, then surround the <connection-name> with " .. " marks
[16:33] <TJ-> Skyrider: e.g "nmcli con down id wireless.lan.iam.tj && nmcli con up id wireless.lan.iam.tj"
[16:33] <TJ-> home: OK, so glibc is already installed
[16:33] <OerHeks> nopel0rd, no idea, gcj-4.9 and gcj5 are available in softwarecenter
[16:33] <OerHeks> !find gcj
[16:34] <Skyrider> thats...
[16:34] <Skyrider> confusing, lol
[16:34] <home> okay how should I install the MS ODBC driver
[16:35] <nopel0rd> OerHeks: There's so many gcj's. Which one should I choose to install?
[16:35] <k1l> home: does it come with a readme or install?
[16:35] <home> yeah
[16:35] <TJ-> home: what do you mean by "MS" ?
[16:36] <TJ-> home: Do you mean a Microsoft Windows exectuable?
[16:36] <k1l> home: so read it, then install the depencies then follow the steps
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> ms = main stream   (joke)
[16:36] <home> no no
[16:36] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: or MonkeySilly :p
[16:38] <TJ-> !info odbc-mdbtools | home
[16:39] <home> thank you very much
[16:39] <home> all
[16:40] <olpirn> I tried shutting down my system and it got stuck (black screen, no response, but computer still on). I forced it to shut down through the hardware. I've switched it on again, but it doesn't behave normally. Every few seconds it gets stuck for a few seconds, the mouse cursor keeps disappearing and reappearing, windows keep changing their appearance
[16:40] <olpirn> (as if fluctuating between two themes). There are some applications I can't start (like the system monitor and some of the system settings), and the system does not react to my keyboard shortcuts (such as ctrl-alt-T to open a terminal). I have no idea what's going on, but I think Unity is not setting itself up properly: ps shows /usr/lib/unity-sett
[16:40] <olpirn> ings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon, each time with a new pid, and there are hundreds of instances of usd-locate-pointer. It seems to me that Unity keeps running some setup, never completing it and always rerunning it again and again. Does this make sense? And does anybody here know what might be causing this and how to solve it?
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> olpirn  so Unity is unstable
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> olpirn  which ubuntu version and where/how did you get it
[16:43] <olpirn> I'm using 15.10.
[16:43] <k1l> olpirn: try to rename the .config folder to .configbackup. then relogin. see if that solves it
[16:43] <olpirn> Have been using it since it came out.
[16:45] <olpirn> Thanks for the idea, k1l - will try it and be back in a few minutes.
[16:48] <hasiduha> does anyone have problems with nvidia drivers and xbacklight? when i run intel gpu, xbacklight works fine, but when i switch to nvidia gpu, i cant change / retrieve backlight using xbacklight..
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[16:53] <CarolzinhaSG> Hi, someone recomwnd me the best ubuntu for beginners?
[16:53] <Skyrider> rsad, spammers.
[16:53] <Skyrider> **sad
[16:54] <k1l> CarolzinhaSG: start with original ubuntu.
[16:54] <CarolzinhaSG> Thanks
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> CarolzinhaSG  get used to it, like you got used to windows or mac: by using it
[16:54] <makk> CarolzinhaSG, xubuntu is good it at looks a bit like windows
[16:54] <Skyrider> TJ- >?
[16:55] <olpirn> Thanks again, k1l, I'm back.
[16:55] <Skyrider> wlx00259c96f84c  Interface doesn't support scanning : Device or resource busy
[16:55] <Skyrider> Its not connected though.
[16:55] <CarolzinhaSG> I'm downloading the original ubunto, to test.
[16:55] <CarolzinhaSG> Ubuntu*
[16:56] <TJ-> Skyrider: might be worth re-inserting it for now, in case all the playing about has confused something
[16:56] <Skyrider> TJ- I removed the "hotspot"
[16:56] <Skyrider> I can scan now
[16:56] <Skyrider> What am I looking for? list is quite big
[16:56] <Skyrider> Ah, Freq.
[16:57] <TJ-> Skyrider: Yes, check if you can get it to use the 802.11a 5GHz band, and do a scan that sees an 802.11a access point
[16:57] <Skyrider> Frequency:5.58 GHz
[16:57] <Skyrider> Found one
[16:57] <olpirn> By removing my .config directory I managed to cause the problem to disappear immediately: the ongoing setup process ceased, and things started working normally (except I didn't have everything set up properly, but that's not that big a deal). However, the minute I logged out and logged back in, the same problem returned (in addition to me not havin
[16:57] <olpirn> g any of my old settings).
[16:57] <Skyrider> Oke, so it can scan for a 5ghz freq.
[16:57] <k1l> olpirn: yes, the old settings are stored in .configbackup now. but to rule out what is causing that issue we needed a clean setup.
[16:58] <k1l> olpirn: but i still dont know what you mean with "its still doing a setup process"
[16:59] <Skyrider> TJ-: Running sudo iwlist frequency shows me a list of channels.
[16:59] <Skyrider> both 2.4 and 5.2+
[16:59] <olpirn> When running ps I see among the processes: /usr/lib/unity-settings-daemon/unity-settings-daemon. When I run ps again and again, I keep seeing it, always with a different PID. I think something causes it to run again and again.
[16:59] <TJ-> Skyrider: YAY!
[16:59] <Skyrider> So why cant it use 5ghz through the kde network manager.
[16:59] <TJ-> Skyrider: so, you've narrowed it down to a problem when trying to operate infrastructure mode in the 802.11a band
[17:00] <Skyrider> So it appears.
[17:00] <olpirn> When I remove .config this stops: from that moment on I see it with the same PID all the time, and my system behaves normally.
[17:00] <makk> olpirn, is journalctl -f reporting somethinkg over and over again?
[17:00] <TJ-> Skyrider: You can, if you configure a regular wireless client connection to an xisting 802.11a AP
[17:00] <nopel0rd> TJ: There's so many gcj's. Which one should I choose to install?
[17:00] <k1l> olpirn: are you sure your system is in a good state? hardisk, ram, etc?
[17:00] <TJ-> Skyrider: your issue is the 802.11a + infrastructure mode
[17:01] <Skyrider> Im lost.
[17:01] <makk> Skyrider, the best solution might be to get a nother wirlestick :-)
[17:01] <Skyrider> I get the second line though.
[17:01] <Skyrider> another?
[17:01] <Skyrider> why
[17:01] <olpirn> k1l: lemme logout and login again so I can tell you.
[17:01] <Skyrider> I have another.. but..
[17:01] <Skyrider> not sure if that supports 5
[17:02] <olpirn> Oh wait, before I go: something else that has happened in this last login is that I don't have the top bar anymore!
[17:03] <makk> Skyrider, because it looks like that the hardware you are using dies not support the mode you trying to run in with the supported driver for ubuntu. But maybe a nother wirlessstick has less problems
[17:03] <TJ-> Skyrider: the driver can only do infrastructure mode if the firmware binary blob (no source code available for it) supports it. It looks like it doesn't. That is understandable due to the stiff legal requirments for preventing interference in 802.11a
[17:03] <k1l> olpirn: check the dmesg/syslog if that system is healthy at all
[17:04] <olpirn> k1l: How do I check that? Where do I find it?
[17:04] <k1l> "dmesg" is the command and syslog is in /var/log
[17:05] <Skyrider> Would you guys mind sharing the cmds to see the new USB network adapter I plugged in?
[17:05] <olpirn> I've tried dmesg. Got a long list of segfault's and a few other things. Anything in particular I should look for?
[17:06] <k1l> olpirn: "a long list of segfaults" that doesnt sound like a good shape.
[17:07] <Skyrider> makk Referring to the pi hardware or the stick itself.
[17:08] <olpirn> They're caused by unity-settings-[sum number].
[17:08] <k1l> olpirn: please pastebin those logs
[17:08] <Skyrider> no one?
[17:08] <k1l> Skyrider: "lsusb" will list all usb ports
[17:09] <makk> Skyrider, sorry i'am lost in the conversation. It's just what i would do after such a long fixing period like u did, to try another wlan device.
[17:09] <Skyrider> ty
[17:09] <Skyrider> Bus 001 Device 007: ID 148f:5370 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT5370 Wireless Adapter
[17:09] <Skyrider> That should be my second.
[17:09] <Skyrider> 802.11n (2.4GHz)
[17:09] <Skyrider> no dual.
[17:10] <makk> Try to set it up in the way you would like to use it and look if it is working.
[17:10] <makk> If you need dual than thats maybe not the best one^^
[17:10] <TJ-> Skyrider: which uses the very same driver, and firmware, so you'll be no better off
[17:10] <Skyrider> need? not exactly.. want? ya.
[17:11] <TJ-> Skyrider: however, if that device will work with 802.11a + infrastructure mode, then you know the WUSB600N has a problem
[17:11] <Skyrider> TJ-: I'm lost.
[17:11] <Skyrider> My dual works fine with 2.4
[17:11] <Skyrider> Just 5ghz refuses to work
[17:11] <olpirn> OK, k1l.
[17:11] <olpirn> http://pastebin.com/nKiCQv3T
[17:12] <k1l> olpirn: did you change things on libc?
[17:13] <olpirn> k1l: if I changed things on libc would I know it?
[17:13] <k1l> well, you should know when you replace system programs
[17:13] <olpirn> So I don't think I have.
[17:13] <Skyrider> So ya.. I'm quite lost.
[17:14] <makk> Skyrider, if the usecase you need this is ok with 2.4GHz than you ok, but if not you might have to look for another device.
[17:14] <TJ-> Skyrider: right, as I said earlier, 802.11a requires DFS (RADAR detection) functionality. Apparently that device doesn't support it though it claims to
[17:14] <k1l> olpirn: any themes or fonts or curser themes?
[17:15] <olpirn> No.
[17:15] <makk> Skyrider, i guess there are devices out there who can handle what you need, you just have to look them up in the internet.
[17:15] <olpirn> I don't think I've done anything unusual.
[17:15] <TJ-> Skyrider: to do DFS wpa_supplicant needs to be using the "nl80211" driver, not the "wext" driver. So, check which it is using
[17:15] <PIYUSH> HI
[17:15] <olpirn> Was just "minding my own business".
[17:16] <ioria> olpirn, have you made a back-up  of ~/.config ?  if yes, try to back-up  also ~/.compiz
[17:16] <olpirn> ioria, you mean backing it up and removing the original .compiz?
[17:17] <k1l> olpirn: yes, just rename that folder.
[17:17] <ioria> olpirn, no, just rename it
[17:17] <k1l> olpirn: after that relogin.
[17:17] <ioria> olpirn, and try the Guest Account too
[17:17] <k1l> olpirn: if that doesnt help look in /var/crash what the crash reports in there talk about
[17:18] <olpirn> OK, thanks. Will be off for a few minutes trying it.
[17:20] <ioria> olpirn, and be sure your hw supports unity        run    /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p
[17:20] <S_J> Are all the typefaces in Pinta free to use commerically?
[17:24] <TheEagerPadawan> hi, what do you guys recommend to use to get a connection with a serial port
[17:24] <ioria> !info minicom
[17:24] <TheEagerPadawan> irc does it again ;)
[17:25] <TheEagerPadawan> +1 penguin for ioria
[17:32] <Lurchy> morning everyone
[17:32] <Lurchy> cold here in california
[17:33] <Lurchy> can i move my ubuntu install over to a new ssd drive i got?
[17:33] <Lurchy> take a snapshot of this IDE drive that has my ubuntu installation on it...then copy it onto this SSD drive
[17:34] <makk> Lurchy, maybe dd can do somethink like it
[17:34] <Lurchy> what issues would I face?  would it work as easy as I have moved windows images in the past?
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> Lurchy  clonezilla is popular
[17:34] <Lurchy> kk
[17:34] <k1l> Lurchy: i dd'ed my install from a hdd to a ssd. works.
[17:35] <k1l> just make sure your partitions are aligned
[17:35] <Lurchy> cool
[17:35] <Lurchy> you have any issues?
[17:35] <Lurchy> ok...can you elaborate?
[17:35] <makk> k1l, does the hd and the ssd has to be at the same size?
[17:36] <daftykins> Lurchy: i'd use clonezilla instead
[17:36] <Lurchy> my IDE is 500GB the SSD is only 64GB...and I want to make the 500GB one of two mirrored drives on a RAID
[17:36] <k1l> makk: well, you can resize and move them afterwards. but best is if the ssd is not too small.
[17:36] <k1l> Lurchy: well, that sounds like more than "just putting the old install onto a ssd"
[17:37] <daftykins> Lurchy: makes more sense to clean install to the SSD then, and remake the mechanical disk as /home
[17:37] <Lurchy> hmmm
[17:37] <Lurchy> ok...
[17:37] <BluesKaj> if the target partition is smaller then the source partition dd copy will fail
[17:37] <k1l> i i think a raid ist just not right in that setup
[17:37] <BluesKaj> than
[17:37] <k1l> *and i
[17:37] <daftykins> RAID is only right if Lurchy means there will be 2 x 500GB mechanicals to either stripe or mirror
[17:38] <Lurchy> well...I want to make the ssd the boot and OS drive...and the dual 500GB the archives....
[17:38] <daftykins> stripe (mode 0) would be a mistake there
[17:38] <k1l> and even then its not a backup which most people confuse raid and backup
[17:38] <olpirn> I'm back, and my problem is solved. Thanks k1l and ioria - I wouldn't have been able to do it without you (at least not that fast).
[17:38] <Lurchy> dual 500GB will mirror
[17:39] <ioria> olpirn, good job, mate !
[17:39] <Lurchy> well crap
[17:39] <makk> olpirn, nice! What was the fix to the problem?
[17:39] <daftykins> Lurchy: so make a package list of what's installed now, save it - clean install to the new SSD, import the package list and install those, then set up the RAID storage and move /home
[17:39] <Lurchy> I guess I need to reinstall onto the 64GB SSD
[17:39] <daftykins> not reinstall, *install*
[17:39] <alepando> hello Ubuntu Word... i'm testing Mate with VirtualBox in my debian
[17:40] <Lurchy> lol...yes
[17:40] <Lurchy> dafty...how does one make a package list?   pen and paper?  or is there a util that I use?
[17:41] <Lurchy> I use belarc in windows......
[17:41] <daftykins> Lurchy: dpkg --get-selections > file
[17:41] <daftykins> i think ^
[17:43] <Lurchy> kk...sounds like a plan...perhaps it can help if i reinstall apache and php it will help me figure out zoneminder also
[17:43] <olpirn> In case someone is interested: the problem was not .config or .compiz - I looked at the dmesg logs more closely and saw that not only unity-settings was sefaulting, but also the keyboard indicator. I then remembered I added a new keyboard layout recently (apparently after the last reboot). I restored the file /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml (whi
[17:43] <olpirn> ch, among other things, maintains a list of keyboard layouts) to a previous state, and that solved the problem. I guess something was wrong in the new version of the file (though I still don't know what it was, it all seemed perfect to me), which caused indicator-keyboard to crash (why crash? why couldn't it be a nice error message?), which caused
[17:43] <olpirn> the whole unity-settings-daemon to crash (why crash? why couldn't it be a nice error message and running without the keyboard indicator), and I guess something kept causing it restarting again and again, causing the whole system to falter.
[17:44] <olpirn> Everything's back to normal now, and I'll try and see how I can add this new layout _without_ crashing the system.
[17:44] <TJ-> Skyrider: You can check on which frequencies (and DFS) are supported with "sudo  wpa_cli get_capability freq"
[17:44] <olpirn> Thanks again!
[17:45] <Lurchy> thx for info guys....
[17:45] <TJ-> Skyrider: Try configuring your AP mode to use a channel from the Mode[A] channels that does *NOT* require DFS
[17:45] <makk> olpirn, sounds strange :-)
[17:46] <TJ-> Lurchy: you can use "debfoster" to create a list that will preserve the install dependencies
[17:46] <Lurchy> ok tj
[17:46] <keli> wow
[17:47] <keli> im new here
[17:47] <makk> Clonezilla will not work for Lurchy?
[17:47] <daftykins> makk: no
[17:47] <Lurchy> makk.....appparently not
[17:47] <daftykins> keli: support questions only, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:47] <Lurchy> since target ssd drive is smaller than source IDE drive
[17:48] <makk> Lurchy, ah ok like i dought
[17:48] <Lurchy> if I understand correctly
[17:48] <olpirn> makk, it is indeed strange.
[17:48] <olpirn> I think there's a lot to improve in there...
[17:48] <TJ-> Lurchy: you could shrink the file-system(s) on the HDD first, so they would fit on the SSD, then copy them over
[17:49] <daftykins> the guy wants to add RAID for /home anyway so it sounds like a clean approach would be handy to me
[17:49] <makk> oh home as raid, i dont got this than it will not work
[17:51] <TJ-> I thought it was 'archives' on the RAID array?
[17:51] <daftykins> who knows what that means :>
[17:51] <malikilam> hhh
[17:51] <daftykins> 64GB certainly won't be enough for all
[17:52] <Lurchy> hmmm
[17:52] <Lurchy> well....I plan on makign this a media server...among other things
[17:53] <Lurchy> want to keep media archives on another disk...since I have 150GB+ of MP3s and such
[17:54] <daftykins> best way is full install to the SSD then, with /home/username/$media_folder symlink'd to the mechanical storage
[17:54] <daftykins> where $media_folder is Pictures, Music, Video, etc.
[17:54] <Lurchy> yes
[17:56] <tgm4883> Anyone else seeing cdimage and/or the ppa's being super slow to download from right now (currently getting 33kB/s)
[17:59] <daftykins> tgm4883: any difference from releases. ?
[17:59] <tgm4883> daftykins: nope, slow there as well
[18:00] <daftykins> torrent? :)
[18:00] <ioria> tgm4883, idk if it's what you meant, but ff gives me 9 h to download the ubuntu iso
[18:00] <tgm4883> daftykins: there isn't a torrent for dailies and/or PPA
[18:00] <daftykins> ah, forgive my mind reading inability :P
[18:01] <TJ-> tgm4883: nothing being reported on the server status page
[18:01] <ioria> tgm4883, yep, 33 kb
[18:01] <tgm4883> ioria: yea that's roughly what I'm getting to
[18:01] <tgm4883> TJ-: where is the status page?
[18:02] <TJ-> tgm4883: http://status.admin.canonical.com/
[18:02] <nicomachus> I take it the guys at #canonical-sysadmin are still on holiday
[18:03] <invisime> I have a brand new Mint install that's crashing intermittently. first the mouse sort of "sticks", then stops responding altogether, then the whole system locks up (no keyboard input accepted, Ctrl+Alt+Del and Ctrl+Alt+F# don't do anything). is there a log I should check to see what's wrong?
[18:03] <nicomachus> !mint | invisime
[18:04] <invisime> ouch. directing me to another server, entirely?
[18:04] <invisime> I was under the impression that the vast majority of mint was actually ubuntu.
[18:05] <ioria> tgm4883, no proble with lubuntu 890 kb
[18:05] <daftykins> invisime: wrong, i'm afraid - Mint has its' own problems.
[18:05] <tgm4883> invisime: that is where their support is. We don't control that
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> invisime  it's a different distro, like ubuntu is different from debian
[18:07] <makk> Does someone know what the ~/.cache/oneconf/ folder ist storing? I got a warning in journalctl -f
[18:07] <stevej> if you add the mint repository to debian 8.2 stable, and install the mint packages, you get lmde 2
[18:08] <makk> WARNING:oneconf.hosts:Error in loading other_hosts file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/makk/.cache/oneconf/b5dab7d4a52740acae2ce4007af8a5c8/other_hosts'
[18:08] <olpirn> By the way, as I've just had a major issue that was all caused by the keyboard indicator and a change to /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev.xml - is this channel a good place to talk about issues with keyboard layouts, or are there better places for this?
[18:08] <daftykins> stevej: off topic
[18:10] <six86> Hello. I hve problems creating a usb install stick. No matte what I try, I get "boot error" when trying to boot. I tried the startup disk creator on ubuntu 15.10. What I want to create is a 14.04 install stick. I also tried unetbootin, which took much much longer to create, but resulted in the same error...
[18:11] <julien12> six86, did you try to format the stick before ? I had the same problem
[18:11] <boxmein> can I tell unity not to let me move windows in the workspace switcher so that the window decoration ends up between two workspaces
[18:12] <ioria> olpirn, you can't  change layouts or what  ?
[18:12] <boxmein> (eg http://snag.gy/6DJBw.jpg and http://snag.gy/sgsRa.jpg )
[18:13] <ioria> six86 can you give us the complete error ?
[18:13] <Skyrider> TJ-
[18:14] <Skyrider> Sorry for the less replies, wife's around.
[18:14] <Skyrider> I ran he command.
[18:14] <Lurchy> wife?  you mean the "Boss"
[18:14] <Lurchy> ?
[18:14] <makk> lol
[18:14] <Skyrider> In a way, ya.. lol
[18:14] <Skyrider> Mode[G] Channels: - Mode[A] Channels and Mode[B] Channels:
[18:14] <Lurchy> I feel ya brother....I am hiding...told her I am "working"
[18:15] <Skyrider> on some 5GHZ channels it says NO_IR and others NO_IR) DFS
[18:15] <olpirn> ioria, I sure can. But I've got some specific issues. For example, when changing the layout list in evdev.xml, the changes don't seem to take effect until I logout and login again. Is there a way to restart indicator-keyboard without having to logout and back in?
[18:15] <Lurchy> my wife...not yours
[18:15] <Lurchy> lol
[18:16] <TJ-> Skyrider: try to use a channel that doesn't have "NO_IR DFS" after it
[18:16] <Skyrider> oke.. trying.. 36
[18:17] <TJ-> Skyrider: if it still fails doing that, it suggests that the problem isn't directly due to missing support for those functions
[18:17] <TJ-> Skyrider: but as we're talking about a very thin layer of code in the kernel that is passing requests to the chipset's firmware blob, we can't know for sure what is going on
[18:17] <six86> julien12: I tried two different sticks and formatted/partitoned them with gparted
[18:18] <ioria> olpirn, well, i could be wrong, but that file it's not supposed  to be edited .... you do what you need from System Settings -> language Support   ( i know that not an answer to your q)
[18:18] <TJ-> Skyrider: I couldn't find any mention of 802.11a infrastructure-mode working, or not working, for the WUSB600N/rt2800usb
[18:18] <Skyrider> :-\
[18:19] <six86> ioria: It's just "Boot error" after the line that shows some Info: "SYSLINUX 6.03 EDD [...] Peter Alvin et al"
[18:19] <Skyrider> no ide
[18:19] <Skyrider> **dice
[18:19] <TJ-> tgm4883: I tested cdimages. ... was getting full speed on my link
[18:20] <ioria> six86  you did the usb with startup disk creator ?
[18:20] <six86> 3 times on 2 Systems. And then one time with unetbootin.
[18:21] <olpirn> ioria, one needs to change that file when installing new layouts (not just choosing existing ones to use).
[18:21] <ioria> olpirn, ah... i see
[18:21] <makk> six86, i got this problem a time ago with archlinux and i hade to use dd command to get the iso on the usb
[18:21] <TJ-> six86: "boot error" is a Syslinux report (the boot-loader) and can be caused by certain bugs in the BIOS/firmware. Try holding down the Ctrl key as the system is booting to cause one of the inbuilt workarounds
[18:21] <Skyrider> weird stuff that it aint working.
[18:22] <TJ-> Skyrider: the error report in the kernel log is triggered directly via a call into the kernel, which calls into the device itself and passes back the error report
[18:22] <sudomarize> how would i create an alias like "cat myfile.txt | somefunction"? where i can just call "newfunction myfile.txt"?
[18:22] <Skyrider> so I'm stuck with 2.4
[18:22] <TJ-> sudomarize: create a function instead
[18:22] <ioria> olpirn,  and now , what are you trying ?    (you can always use   sudo if=/file.iso   of=/dev/sdx)
[18:22] <sudomarize> TJ-: how would i do that?
[18:22] <ioria> sorry
[18:23] <ioria> six86  and now , what are you trying ?    (you can always use   sudo if=/file.iso   of=/dev/sdx)
[18:23] <six86> I resd something about not being able to use startup disk creator for older versions...
[18:23] <nicomachus> hmm... this is a new one "spotify: error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:23] <six86> ioria: I will try dd
[18:23] <ioria> olpirn,    sudo dd if=/file.iso   of=/dev/sdx
[18:24] <makk> olpirn, for the of= part dont use /dev/sdx1 or somethink use the hole device not apartion
[18:26] <nicomachus> looks like spotify needs libgcrypt 11, but ubuntu only has 20.
[18:26] <TJ-> As well as creating aliases, you can create shell functions that are in the .bashrc or similar. E.g. "function newfunction() { cat "$1" | "$2"; }" and then be able to call it as "newfunction myfile.txt somefunction"
[18:26] <olpirn> ioria and makk: I don't understand - what is this dd and if and of and /file.sio and /dev/sdx?
[18:27] <olpirn> (Maybe it was meant for another user?)
[18:27] <makk> olpirn, yes it was meant for another user
[18:27] <ioria> olpirn,    convert and copy a file
[18:27] <makk> olpirn, srry
[18:27] <TJ-> nicomachus: you could try symlinking "ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.20 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.11"
[18:27] <ioria> olpirn,  yep, not for you :þ
[18:28] <six86> dd works! :-D
[18:28] <six86> Forget the fancy tools :D
[18:28] <makk> you allready booted it?
[18:28] <six86> yep
[18:28] <makk> nice
[18:28] <ioria> six86  good
[18:29] <nicomachus> thanks TJ-. Makes me curious what happened to break it... Trying to remember the last time I used Spotify on this machine.
[18:29] <ioria> olpirn,  that's for you  : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Custom%20keyboard%20layout%20definitions
[18:29] <TJ-> nicomachus: 14.04 possible?
[18:29] <TJ-> !info libgcrypt trusty
[18:29] <nicomachus> I'm *sure* i've used it since upgrading to 15.10
[18:29] <TJ-> !info libgcrypt11 trusty
[18:29] <TJ-> !info libgcrypt11 vivid
[18:30] <nicomachus> yep... vivid has 20. huh. guess I haven't used it in awhile...
[18:31] <olpirn> Thanks, ioria, I've visited that page already. Unfortunately, there's no answer there. (Other than removing the cache files, which helps load new layouts, but not the new layout list.)
[18:31] <tarvid> is there an easy way to locate the mouse pointer on a high resultion screen?
[18:32] <ioria> olpirn,  sorry about that
[18:32] <alph_> hallo
[18:33] <Skyrider> TJ- I give up on 5ghz support.
[18:33] <alph_> exit
[18:33] <Skyrider> I however want to thank you for the support, I'm glad the hotspot is working.
[18:33] <Skyrider> So I appreciate it.
[18:34] <TJ-> Skyrider: if you do find a way, please let me/us know
[18:35] <Skyrider> Will do, but I doubt I'll find a way atm.
[18:35] <olpirn> It's OK, ioria, thanks. I also have much more specific questions. There seems to be a serious lack of information on the web regarding xkb :-(
[18:35] <nicomachus> TJ-: well, here's the answer to pretty much all of my questions, in case someone else wanders in looking for help with that issue: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/09/install-spotify-client-ubuntu-15-10/
[18:36] <nicomachus> I was on stable instead of testing, and stable only works in 14.04 atm
[18:36] <olpirn> If anybody knows a forum or a channel or something where there are people who can answer questions about the inner workings of xkb, please do tell.
[18:37] <sjoshi> !info shareit
[18:37] <makk> olpirn, maybe in #xorg someone can help
[18:38] <TJ-> nicomachus: ahhh!
[18:38] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging
[18:38] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging trusty
[18:38] <olpirn> Thanks, makk! If somebody somewhere can help it's most likely there :-)
[18:39] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging-amd64 precise
[18:39] <makk> olpirn, or in ##linux
[18:39] <Dynamicwork> !info wine-staging precise
[18:39] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | Dynamicwork
[18:39] <ioria> olpirn,  well, xkb is part of xorg,  so ...
[18:40] <olpirn> ioria: Yes, I'm sorry, I'm very new to this IRC thing. It will take me some time to figure it all out. But you guys have been very helpful - thanks!
[18:41] <ioria> olpirn,  np, http://www.x.org/wiki/XKB/
[18:42] <olpirn> ioria, Yes, I've seen that page as well. Lots of good information, too! Unfortunately, no answers to my (indeed very specific) questions... A knowledgeable person willing to help is worth much more than thousands of thousands of non-interactive words...
[18:43] <makk> olpirn, thats true, there for irc is nice
[18:44] <ioria> olpirn, maybe i'm too curious.... what's you specific issue ?
[18:45] <ioria> olpirn,  i mean, why you need to edit evdev.xml ?
[18:45] <olpirn> ioria: I'm creating my own special keyboard layouts.
[18:46] <ioria> olpirn,  ok
[18:47] <makk> olpirn, is there no better hobby around? :-)
[18:50] <sudomarize> TJ-: awesome, thanks
[18:53] <ralph4100> does anyone know of a good guide for storing passwords as environment variables? would like to move to that instead of storing them in various config files, but don't want to do it wrong as these are passwords, and can't seem to find anything helpful.
[18:54] <olpirn> makk: It's not my only hobby, but I do like it. And I enjoy not only the process of creating them, but also using them afterwards. Being able to type the way I like really makes my life better - considering the number of hours I spend with a keyboard each day...
[18:54] <olpirn> I'll be off now. Thanks again, makk, ioria and k1l!
[18:54] <makk> olpirn, sound cool have fun cu
[18:55] <ioria> olpirn,  np, good luck
[18:57] <makk> ralph4100, you coud store your passwart as a hash variable, and build a function that hashes the input of an password and compare it to the stored hash
[18:58] <ralph4100> makk, well I mean to store passwords for various things ... like instead of putting a password in a muttrc, reference the var in bashrc
[18:58] <bh> I'm running into a bit of trouble configuring an Ipsec/LT2P vpn. Tips for debugging would be appreciated. At the moment I'm not seeing anything in syslog when I attempt to connect, ipsec verify returns a clean bill of health
[18:58] <makk> ralph4100, oh ok than i missread your comment
[18:58] <ralph4100> makk, that way 1) my config files don't need to be secret, 2) all passwords in one place, can be easily changed
[19:00] <makk> ralph4100, at least i would never store my password as envirement variables in clear text. Everyone has acces to the envirement variable if i not missleaded
[19:01] <tgm4883> ralph4100: you wouldn't make them enviroment variables. You would just source the password file when launching the application
[19:04] <lordleojz> hola
[19:06] <Finetundra> Can someone tell me how I can write a .img to a floppy disk?
[19:07] <bekks> Finetundra: Using dd.
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> Finetundra: unpack it and drag contents to the floppy
[19:07] <bekks> lotuspsychje: That will not leave you with anything usable.
[19:07] <Finetundra> bekks: could you explain?
[19:07] <bekks> lotuspsychje: an "img" file is just a full clone of the contents of a device. So you need to transfer it to the device.
[19:08] <bekks> Finetundra: dd if=/path/to/your.img of=/dev/yourfloppydevice bs=2M; sync; sync
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> bekks: i mean unpack with some program that handles iso, img etc
[19:08] <SchrodingersScat> bekks: why the double sync?
[19:09] <bekks> lotuspsychje: Neither iso not img are archive formats.
[19:09] <bekks> SchrodingersScat: For ensuring the IO buffer is written down to the device.
[19:10] <barnyard_animal> hey guys, new to linux, wondering how I install packages?  Is there no software center?  I could use command line but unsure if there's somewhere else I should be doing it
[19:10] <SchrodingersScat> !software | barnyard_animal
[19:11] <barnyard_animal> thanks!
[19:11] <SchrodingersScat> barnyard_animal: software center, synaptic, aptitude, apt-get, apt should all do about the same things, so it's your preference for which you choose.
[19:15] <Finetundra> bekks: if I have of=/dev/media/<username>/disk returns no such file or directory
[19:15] <bekks> Finetundra: Then you issued the wrong path.
[19:18] <Finetundra> bekks: if I set the file path to /media/<username>/disk I get told that it's a directory
[19:18] <bekks> Finetundra: Then use a valid path instead.
[19:18] <bekks> Finetundra: We dont know where you stored the img file.
[19:19] <Finetundra> the first path should be to the .img file, yes? not the second one
[19:19] <Finetundra> ?
[19:19] <makk> Finetundra, you know wherre your floppy device ist located in /dev?
[19:19] <Finetundra> makk: no
[19:20] <makk> Finetundra, yes the of part ist the device
[19:20] <makk> the if part is the image
[19:20] <makk> Finetundra, you need to know where your floppy device is located to put the path to it in the of part
[19:21] <Finetundra> makk: where would it be normally?
[19:21] <tomasq> Hello! Is here any Ubuntu developer?
[19:21] <makk> Finetundra, but i never did somethink with floppy disk so i have no idear how they are stored in /dev
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> tomasq: #ubuntu-devel
[19:21] <MiningMarsh> /dev/fd0
[19:22] <MiningMarsh> fd is the name of floppies usually
[19:22] <MiningMarsh> iirc
[19:22] <makk> Finetundra, there you have it from MiningMarsh
[19:24] <barnyard_animal> Where is the ubuntu software center on ubuntu mate desktop 1.10.2?
[19:24] <barnyard_animal> I installed synaptic but am following the tutorial and cannot find the software center
[19:24] <makk> barnyard_animal, open a temrinal and type software-center
[19:25] <makk> barnyard_animal, this should open it
[19:25] <Finetundra> MiningMarsh: how would I determine what the disk number is?
[19:26] <Grimm_> Hello can someone helpout? I tried to dual boot Ununtu 15.04 with Android x86. I had just 1 partition [/] on ubuntu so when I was asked during installation to create a new partition, I could not shrink sda1 (where Ubuntu was)
[19:26] <makk> Finetundra, if you type /dev/fd and than tab you should get some otions, hopefully only 1
[19:27] <barnyard_animal> Thanks makk, wasn't installed by default.
[19:27] <MonkeyDust> Grimm_  backup ubuntu to a safe place - boot live dvd or usb - delete partition with gparted - create new partitions - install what you want
[19:27] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: Do you have something on the disk already?
[19:27] <MiningMarsh> if so, sudo blkid
[19:27] <MiningMarsh> will usually find it
[19:28] <Finetundra> MiningMarsh: there shouldn't be. I can try a fresh disk
[19:29] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: ls /dev/fd* and just look for whatever number is listed.
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[19:29] <makk> lol i have no floppy drive at all and i got number 0 to 3^
[19:30] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: oh wait a minute shit don't use fd
[19:31] <MiningMarsh> I just double checked, apparently fd is an alias for /dev/pts/*
[19:31] <henvio> q
[19:31] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: yeah I have no idea what path the floppy drive is at, I apoligize.
[19:33] <makk> MiningMarsh, is ist save to just dry the /dev/fd/numbers with dd or yould this harm somethink?
[19:33] <henvio> sfdas
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> henvio  it works, we see you
[19:36] <makk> Finetundra, did it work?
[19:39] <Grimm_> I canged the sector to begin at 4096 from 2048 then changed it back and wrote changes to the partion table. Before writting changes a warning pop up said I might expirence data loss if I continue
[19:39] <Quantos> And?
[19:40] <Quantos> Did you experience data loss?
[19:40] <Grimm_> I continued but I did not install Android again I did ctrl+alt+delete
[19:40] <Grimm_> But it does not boot Ubuntu
[19:40] <Finetundra> makk: no
[19:41] <MonkeyDust> Grimm_  if you made a backup, you can do what you want, then data loss is no drama
[19:41] <Quantos> ^^^
[19:42] <makk> Finetundra, "lsmod | grep -i floppy" to se if a floppy module is loaded
[19:42] <ioria> Finetundra, i downloaded a .img  file , and did   dd if=disk1.img of=/dev/fd0
[19:42] <Grimm_> It lands me on the display when I used to press F12 before seeing
[19:44] <ioria> Finetundra, with sudo, i mean
[19:47] <ravster> hello all
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> ravster: welcome
[19:48] <ravster> I'm on Wily, and trying to get nodejs v4, but http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/nodejs is referring to nodejs v0.10.  Is there something I'm missing about nodejs versioning in ubuntu?
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> !latest | ravster
[19:50] <MiningMarsh> ravster: everything past node 0.10-14 is usually considered unstable
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> ravster: its reccomended to use package versions, specific for your ubuntu version
[19:50] <MiningMarsh> on various distros
[19:50] <MiningMarsh> I believe the version jump causes a lot of NPM package breakage
[19:50] <JanC> that hhy66 is/was a spammer
[19:51] <MiningMarsh> I know it did for me when I tried 4.1...
[19:51] <ravster> oh ok.  thanks for the heads up
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> JanC: maybe report to the ops channel?
[19:54] <OerHeks> hjgy87, please don't spam here, thanks
[19:55] <GoChargers> Hello!  Looking for help with remote connections.  I have Ubuntu set up as a media server, but I can't seem to access it remotely.  Wondering what sort of things I should look at.  Already checked ufw, it is disabled.
[19:56] <OerHeks> GoChargers, how would you connect, ssh? vnc?
[19:56] <Turnip_Green> Guys any news on a fix for 15.10 and Catalyst drivers?
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> Turnip_Green: wich card you havin?
[19:57] <Turnip_Green> R9 270
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> Turnip_Green: talk to the #gamingonlinux guys, their always up to date
[19:57] <Turnip_Green> Cool thanks
[19:58] <GoChargers> OerHeks:  Previous install worked fine.  Used mythmote (on android), vsftpd (for fsync on android), occasional vnc with vino, and two smart tvs would find my plex server.  Now, only vsftpd works.
[19:58] <OerHeks> seems like the releasebug is solved, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[19:59] <OerHeks> GoChargers, so ... vnc + vino?
[20:01] <GoChargers> OerHeks:  just tried to start vino, and it says "The desktop sharing service is not enabled, so it should not be run"
[20:02] <ioria> GoChargers,  try /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[20:02] <Finetundra> makk: that yields floppy 		55416 1
[20:02] <GoChargers> ioria:  That's how I launched vino.
[20:03] <ioria> GoChargers,  ps -A | grep vino
[20:03] <GoChargers> ioria:  no output for that command.  When launching vino, I get this:  ** (vino-server:5590): WARNING **: The desktop sharing service is not enabled, so it should not be run.
[20:04] <Finetundra> ioria: doing it that way it does run but it says 0 bytes copied
[20:04] <ioria> Finetundra, what .img is ?  is good ?
[20:05] <lotuspsychje> GoChargers: cant you use openssh for the management? vnc is a danger to use
[20:06] <Finetundra> ioria:  for the rhapsody beta OS from apple(circa 1997). As best I can tell, yes it's good, though I don't know how I'd check it
[20:06] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: what command did you run?
[20:06] <ioria> GoChargers,  go in dash and type vino
[20:07] <Finetundra> MiningMarsh: I cd'd over to the directory with the .img and did "sudo dd if=<long disk name>.img of=/dev/fd0"
[20:07] <ioria> Finetundra, so you can format the floppy with Disks and try again dd
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: yeah, like I said, I was wrong, /dev/fd0 is not in fact a floppy disk
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> as far as I can tell
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> on my system at least, it is a symlink to /dev/ptc
[20:08] <ioria> MiningMarsh, no, it is
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> *pts
[20:08] <ioria> MiningMarsh, i just did it
[20:08] <MiningMarsh> ioria: Oh okay. I went to double check and my /dev/fd was linked to /dev/pts/*
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> ioria: Good to know then.
[20:09] <GoChargers> ioria, lotuspsychje:  vino is fixed now, turns out I just needed to go into vino-preferences.
[20:09] <ioria> MiningMarsh,  not fd  /dev/fd0
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: try ddrescue maybe to see if it complains about bad sectors?
[20:09] <GoChargers> still no luck with the media sharing though.
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> ioria: Yeah, I see.
[20:09] <ioria> GoChargers,  gooooooodddddddddd
[20:09] <MiningMarsh> ioria: I thought fd0 was floppy, wasn't 100% sure
[20:10] <ioria> MiningMarsh,  yeah
[20:10] <ioria> Finetundra, it's also possible that your floppy (as many of mine) is old  and ruined ....
[20:11] <daftykins> ^ i had to repeatedly read over 15x from the last floppy i used to remagnetise the thing (my assumption) before it'd get data off a disk again
[20:11] <daftykins> thing being the drive
[20:12] <ioria> yeah
[20:14] <atif089> Hey guys, I understand this is an official Ubuntu channel and I'm here to ask a question that might be to specific for my needs and not relevant to most of the users here. Can anyone recommend me a right channel to seek advice for my Ubuntu based remote desktop setup?
[20:15] <Finetundra> ioria: can they just go bad with age?
[20:15] <ioria> Finetundra, i'm afraid , yes
[20:15] <Finetundra> well crap
[20:15] <daftykins> atif089: just ask the question, as long as it's really ubuntu it's fine.
[20:16] <ioria> Finetundra, it's not a cd, it's mylar (like the old music cassette)
[20:16] <ioria> Finetundra, that's why i told you to format it again
[20:16] <Finetundra> ioria: using?
[20:17] <ioria> Finetundra, Disks
[20:18] <Finetundra> ioria: shold that be preinstalled?
[20:18] <ioria> Finetundra, yes
[20:18] <Finetundra> ioria: what would the terminal command be?
[20:19] <daftykins> call me crazy but try just formatting the diskette and putting a text file on it before trying the intended data, whatever form it may be in
[20:19] <daftykins> Finetundra: disks is a GUI program
[20:19] <bekks> Finetundra: Throw the floppy away, use a new one.
[20:19] <ioria> Finetundra, what ubuntu are you on ?
[20:20] <Finetundra> ioria: 14.04
[20:20] <ioria> Finetundra, Unity ?
[20:20] <Finetundra> ioria: XFCE
[20:21] <ioria> Finetundra, http://askubuntu.com/questions/577002/how-do-i-open-disk-utility-in-xfce
[20:22] <Finetundra> this may be more trouble than I thought
[20:22] <atif089> daftykins: Thanks.
[20:22] <atif089> I have a Windows laptop on which I want to install Ubuntu so that I can use it as my development laptop for developing Android apps. The reason I want to install Ubuntu is because I want to connect remotely from a desktop on same network. If all of this doesn't sound stupid, here are the few questions?
[20:22] <atif089> * Is Ubuntu a good choice or should I go with some other OS?
[20:22] <atif089> * Can multiple users connect on Ubuntu like RHEL5? I remember using NoMachine on RHEL5 where I could get 2 GUIs, 1 on the original PC and 1 on the remote PC?
[20:22] <atif089> * Is VNC also same as NoMachine?
[20:22] <bekks> Finetundra: Still on putting an img onto a floppy?
[20:23] <atif089> ^^ sorry about white spaces, I typed in a different editor and it added extra line characters I think
[20:23] <MiningMarsh> atif089: Yes on the first two questions.
[20:23] <Finetundra> bekks: yes. ioria has advised me to format the disk
[20:23] <ioria> Finetundra,  or change it, if you can
[20:23] <MiningMarsh> atif089: and apparently nomachine supports VNC sessions.
[20:23] <bekks> Finetundra: What for? using dd and putting a file on it destroys and overwrites every format.
[20:23] <bekks> Finetundra: Which dd command did you use?
[20:24] <MiningMarsh> Finetundra: try ddrescue.
[20:24] <MiningMarsh> I imaging the issue is probably a dead disk.
[20:24] <bekks> Finetundra: No need for ddrescue.
[20:24] <MiningMarsh> *imagine
[20:24] <deskwizard> Hi :)
[20:24] <Finetundra> bekks: sudo dd if=<long disk image name>.img of=/dev/fd0
[20:24] <bekks> Finetundra: And what is the output of that command?
[20:25] <deskwizard> quick question for you knowledgeable people... on 14.04, the volume change popups... anywhere I can change the timeout for those ?
[20:25] <atif089> MiningMarsh: in laymans terms, I can connect to that computer and do my work without disturbing my wife's web browsing activity (except consuming all the CPU of course)
[20:25] <MiningMarsh> atif089: Yeah, that shouldn't be an issue.
[20:25] <deskwizard> well, all those kind of popups
[20:25] <MiningMarsh> atif089: Any linux distro should support that no-problem.
[20:25] <ioria> Finetundra,  if the format fails, could mean that the disk is bad ....
[20:26] <bekks> ioria: Only if you used a full format using badblocks before.
[20:26] <atif089> MiningMarsh: perfect! Thanks for saving my $1000 on a new computer. I have an AMD desktop which truly sucks for Android Development. I was contemplating in getting a new i7 but I have an i5 laptop lying around. So I can use it now :-) AWesome!
[20:27] <Finetundra> 0+0 records in  0+0 records out 0 bytes (0 b) copied 0.000359464 s, 0.0kb/s. bekks
[20:27] <bekks> Finetundra: Full, exact command, full exact output into a pastebin.
[20:27] <bekks> Finetundra: Not just random lines.
[20:30] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/mSZBLbU6
[20:30] <Finetundra> I am cd'd into the directory with the img file
[20:30] <zza> hello, how to zip a lot of files individually and with pass-> for f in *.txt;do;aaa=`echo "$f" | sed s/txt/zip/g`;zip -e "$aaa" "$f";done
[20:30] <bekks> Finetundra: And you are in the same directory as that image file AND fd1 is your second floppy?
[20:31] <zza> how to write the same password in for?
[20:31] <sw0rdy> hey guys
[20:31] <sw0rdy> my camera won't work on skype
[20:31] <sw0rdy> its available in the options
[20:32] <Finetundra> bekks: yes
[20:32] <sw0rdy> but not in calls
[20:32] <bekks> Finetundra: Then your image file is zero bytes, since nothing was written.
[20:32] <sw0rdy> ffs
[20:32] <Finetundra> bekks: well you see, that's where the issue is
[20:33] <bekks> Finetundra: the issue is either using a 0 byte image or the wrong floppy device.
[20:33] <ioria> Finetundra,  can you give me the link to the  .img ?
[20:33] <daftykins> sw0rdy: not much we can do given skype is proprietary, tried other programs to see if they view it ok?
[20:34] <sw0rdy> like what other programs can i use?
[20:34] <daftykins> cheese
[20:35] <sw0rdy> ok
[20:36] <sw0rdy> thanks
[20:40] <ioria> Finetundra,  sorry, don't find .img on that site , can you provide the file url ?
[20:40] <bekks> Finetundra: Whats the output of "dmesg | grep -i fd"?
[20:42] <sw0rdy> daftykins, cheese works
[20:42] <sw0rdy> i found this v
[20:42] <sw0rdy> http://community.skype.com/t5/Linux/Camera-does-not-work-with-Skype-on-Ubuntu-14-04/td-p/3162718
[20:42] <tsapii> hello i have a problem with installing ubuntu on a laptop with a pre-existing windows 8 installation. the whole disk is currently used by the windows 8 disk and i'd like to cut its size in half
[20:43] <sw0rdy> didn't work but maybe i should restart
[20:43] <sw0rdy> for it to work
[20:43] <tsapii> however the partition manager is not able to detect the used size of the windows partition so i cannot resize it
[20:43] <tsapii> i can mount it fine, and if i do the partition manager sees the used size correctly
[20:43] <daftykins> tsapii: resize Windows from inside Windows, alternatively - you may've booted your ubuntu media non-EFI when it needs to have been EFI booted
[20:44] <tsapii> i am pretty sure i booted it with efi but may also be wrong
[20:44] <tsapii> in any case i shall try resizing from within windows
[20:44] <tsapii> thanks
[20:44] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/pZauUe8E
[20:44] <daftykins> boot, run diskmgmt.msc, right click and shrink
[20:45] <tsapii> thanks
[20:45] <sw0rdy> daftykins, what you think?
[20:45] <daftykins> sw0rdy: didn't look
[20:45] <sw0rdy> well
[20:45] <sw0rdy> its ok
[20:45] <donna> irc.freenode.net
[20:45] <Guest9969> hello as of recently ctrl-alt-f(1-6) hasn't been working for me.  Anyone have any ideas why this'd happen?
[20:45] <sw0rdy> I'll just restart anyway
[20:45] <sw0rdy> brb
[20:45] <bekks> Finetundra: As can be clearly seen, you a) dont have a second floppy device, but just one and b) that one device is named fd0
[20:46] <Guest80268> Hello, i was wondering if anyone could answer me a question
[20:46] <bekks> Guest80268: You have to ask your question instead.
[20:46] <Finetundra> bekks: changing it to fd0 returns the same
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> Guest80268  let's hear it, in oneline
[20:47] <daftykins> one cannot answer what has not been asked (:
[20:47] <Guest80268> would i be able to take an ssd that has ubuntu pre-installed and configured and swap it into a nuc without any trouble?
[20:47] <bekks> Finetundra: Which doesnt make fd1 magically existing, suddenly ;)
[20:47] <daftykins> Guest80268: yes depending on graphics drivers that may've been added
[20:47] <sw0rdy> well that was a quick reboot :D
[20:48] <Finetundra> bekks: irrelevant
[20:48] <sw0rdy> time for the moment of truth
[20:48] <bekks> Finetundra: Absoluetly not. Using the wrong device is nothing you should be expecting to work out successfully.
[20:48] <sw0rdy> the tipping point between xubuntu and windows 7 haha
[20:48] <Guest80268> Well my main rig has a gtx970, but I've not added any drivers
[20:48] <bekks> Finetundra: So pastebin "ls -lah filename" of that image file, and the full output when writing it to /dev/fd0
[20:48] <Finetundra> bekks: it is irrelevant if both fd1 and fd0 return the same
[20:49] <bekks> Finetundra: It is NOT irrelevant.
[20:49] <ioria> Finetundra,  how big is it this .img ?
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> Guest80268: clean installs are very reccomended
[20:49] <sw0rdy> fuck it
[20:49] <al_nz1> Morning
[20:50] <bekks> sw0rdy: can you please watch your language?
[20:50] <sw0rdy> daftykins, I have to remove ubuntu and put windows 7 for this :S
[20:50] <al_nz1> whats the easiest way to install stuff from github on Ubuntu?
[20:50] <rom1504> al_nz1: using git clone
[20:50] <rom1504> next question
[20:50] <sw0rdy> ahh, sorry bekks forgot that this is a family-friendly channel
[20:50] <al_nz1> rom1504: ta
[20:51] <rom1504> ta
[20:51] <Guest80268> lotuspsychje, it kind of defeats the point of me swapping it out in the first place
[20:51] <daftykins> sw0rdy: or get another camera you mean... i wouldn't give up so easily though if you've only been at it like 10 minutes.
[20:51] <CruelDualBoot> I'm looking to dual boot Windows 8.1 and Xubuntu, and I need a little insight into UEFI. Anyone willing and able to assist?
[20:51] <sw0rdy> daftykins, thanks for the help the past couple a days bro, you've been tremendous
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | CruelDualBoot
[20:51] <Ceees2> Can someone shine me some light on the order of a chain in iptables? I want to block a range of ports, but allow one port inside the the same range. Should I first drop the range of ports, and then allow the one port?
[20:52] <Finetundra> ioria: 1.44MB
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | Ceees2
[20:52] <sw0rdy> but i give up because this is for my dad's friend and I'd rather be focusing on how to make money so i can have a little more than 10 bucks in my pockets
[20:52] <tsapii> bleh, it appears that the windows partition suffers from filesystem corruption
[20:52] <bekks> Finetundra: Pastebin ls.
[20:52] <sw0rdy> don't have time daftykins bro
[20:52] <tsapii> need to chkdsk.exe this
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> Ceees2: the #netfilter guys might also assist
[20:52] <sw0rdy> see you from home, I'll be there in 5 min :D
[20:52] <daftykins> sw0rdy: oh that's you - yeah this is why converting others is often a mistake
[20:52] <ioria> Finetundra,  send me, (if you want)
[20:52] <sw0rdy> brb
[20:52] <Ceees2> thanks
[20:53] <tsapii> this may be the reason the partition manager was so unable to find the pratition size
[20:53] <tsapii> unable to find the used size, rather
[20:53] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/87xqeHb7
[20:53] <daftykins> tsapii: you need to shutdown out of windows properly yeah, "shutdown -s -t 1" tends to be a good method in 8 and 10, or hold shift when clicking shutdown
[20:53] <Finetundra> ioria: send you what?
[20:54] <ioria> Finetundra,  the file. i cannot find it ...
[20:54] <Guest9969> ctrl-alt-f(*) switches to a black screen for me, ctrl-alt-f7 works normally. I'm not sure how to debug this
[20:54] <daftykins> Guest9969: sounds like you're using proprietary graphics drivers - is it on a TV by any chance?
[20:55] <bekks> Finetundra: Bingo. That file is ZERO bytes.
[20:55] <bekks> Finetundra: Fix it, try again.
[20:56] <CruelDualBoot> Thanks, lotuspsychje. I was a little concerned because I've already partitioned and installed Xubuntu. It's on my comp, but the boot menu isn't reading. And I know, there are methods to get it to recognize grub, but I've biffed it before on an OS install like this, and I'd really like to avoid as much pain as I can.
[20:56] <senaps> i can't lower down my screen brightness in acer 4750.... any help?(tried fn+ > or < that used to control screen brightness in windows)
[20:56] <ioria> Finetundra,  bekks is right ... is '0'
[20:56] <Guest9969> daftykins: am I Guest9969?
[20:57] <daftykins> senaps: you may need to add the kernel boot parameter "acpi_backlight=vendor" for this to work.
[20:57] <daftykins> Guest9969: yes, do you not see it when you type?
[20:57] <ioria> Finetundra,  you have nothing in that file
[20:57] <Finetundra> bekks: I swear to god it read as 1.44MB
[20:57] <senaps> daftykins: anymore instructions?
[20:57] <Guest9969> daftykins: I see me name as me2. I'm still new to irc so this is a bit weird for me
[20:57] <bekks> Finetundra: Even without being religious, you can SEE that the file is 0 bytes. So there is no point in discussing it.
[20:58] <NomadJim> if I just want an ubuntu for a long time, should I install 14.04.0 or 14.04.1?
[20:58] <ioria> Finetundra,  try to send me
[20:58] <daftykins> senaps: well you would boot up, hold left shift to get the GRUB menu, press 'e' to edit the normal boot entry highlighted and edit it so what i mentioned is after 'quiet splash' on the kernel= line
[20:59] <bekks> ioria: Send you a 0 byte file?
[20:59] <bekks> ioria: What do you expect from it? :)
[20:59] <CruelDualBoot> Mainly, I need to know: If I was able to start a Live Session from a flash drive without any trouble on a UEFI machine, does that mean that it's already a UEFI version of Xubuntu, or do I have to go through the steps listed here (http://linux.about.com/od/howtos/ss/How-To-Create-A-UEFI-Bootable-Ubuntu-USB-Drive-Using-Windows.htm)?
[20:59] <ioria> bekks, yep
[20:59] <senaps> daftykins: anyway to do that while im logged in? from my own terminal?
[20:59] <ioria> bekks, nothing
[20:59] <bekks> ioria: So we can omit that nonsense and continue. Thanks.
[20:59] <daftykins> senaps: it's better to test it this way to see if it works instead of apply it permanently.
[21:00] <Finetundra> bekks: I just recopied the file and it now writes
[21:00] <Bashing-om> NomadJim: 14.04.0/1/2/3 will upgrade t0 14.04.4 when the next point release is released . presently we are at 14.04.3 .
[21:00] <Guest9969> daftykins: anyways I'm using fglrx-updates as my amd graphics driver.  It's on my pc. It used to work correctly as of a few weeks ago
[21:00] <bekks> Finetundra: Check the size.
[21:00] <CruelDualBoot> To put it another way, since I used unetbootin to make the flash drive, does unetbootin automatically make the ISO image "play nice" with UEFI?
[21:00] <daftykins> Guest9969: yeah so that driver is what's ruining TTY usage.
[21:01] <NomadJim> Bashing-om:  is upgrading to .4 going to require a reboot?
[21:01] <ioria> Finetundra,  this is good
[21:01] <daftykins> Guest9969: you could confirm it's being used properly via "sudo lshw -C video" and also "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" then share the resulting link here
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> here i am D
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> :D
[21:01] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: we don't need announcements
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> daftykins sir yes sir!
[21:01] <Finetundra> ioria: did you dl the file?
[21:01] <sw0rdfish> daftykins I see you're not in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:01] <Bashing-om> NomadJim: Yeah, when it is released and you have updated . ( it is in the plans that a install of a new kernel will not require rebooting ) .
[21:01] <liam> Hi all...long time user f Ubuntu, just after getting a Chromebook and installing Ubuntu 14.04LTS. Everything working quite well except...a sound issue. Basically, the earphones/Speakers have to be manually chosen each time, and the sound is muffled for a while at frst until played at full volum, then it comes right. Any directions gladly accepted
[21:02] <sw0rdfish> daftykins can I pm you
[21:02] <daftykins> sw0rdfish: what about
[21:02] <NomadJim> Bashing-om:  thanks
[21:02] <ioria> Finetundra,  yep... porting to the old pc
[21:02] <Finetundra> bekks: http://pastebin.com/2dduKL0V
[21:02] <sw0rdfish> daftykins a friendly conversation
[21:02] <daftykins> if it's support related, no.
[21:02] <Finetundra> bekks: does that provide enough information?
[21:02] <bekks> Finetundra: That seems to work.
[21:03] <Guest9969> daftykins: thanks for letting me know about automatically creating pastebin like that it's pretty cool.  Here's the link http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375259/
[21:04] <Tynach> Hi, installing a program using Synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, and pretty much any other source works fine... But the new application isn't showing up in Unity's Dash until I log out and back in. How can I fix this? Usually if I install a program from Software Center, it will show up - but not always.
[21:04] <Guest9969> liam: I remember I had to mess around with pulseaudio after installing ubuntu on my chromebook
[21:04] <Tynach> This is a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[21:04] <bob2017> Hey — is it possible to install ubuntu without using the installer?  Just by decompressing an archive over a partition?
...change your nick with /nick (name)
[21:05] <daftykins> Guest9969: yep so fglrx is definitely in use, that could well be why you can't reach any TTYs - assuming you're not connected to a TV as i mentioned which could be printing the text off-screen
[21:05] <daftykins> bob2017: don't think so.
[21:05] <NomadJim> does the 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop image work for 64 bit intel cpus?
[21:05] <Lurchy> lol
[21:05] <me2> Lurchy: thanks!
[21:05] <Lurchy> just so you have a unique name
[21:05] <daftykins> NomadJim: yes
[21:05] <Tynach> NomadJim, yes.
[21:05] <NomadJim> thanks
[21:06] <bob2017> let me try differently — can someone help me install ubuntu without using the installer, by expanding an archive over the target partition?
[21:06] <Tynach> NomadJim, AMD64 is just called that because AMD created the x86-64 instruction set extension first.
[21:06] <Tynach> Intel then started using it.
[21:06] <NomadJim> ah ok
[21:07] <ioria> Finetundra,  seems to issue in dd it
[21:08] <Tynach> Does anyone know how to refresh the list of installed applications in Unity's dash, without logging out and back in?
[21:08] <ioria> Finetundra,  seems no issue in dd it
[21:08] <Bashing-om> bob2017: Maybe of interest : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot <-Ubuntu ISOs are designed to allow booting directly from the hard drive using GRUB 2 and eliminates the need for burning a CD/DVD.
[21:08] <me2> daftykins: okay I'll try switching the graphics driver and see if that helps.  Can you let me know how you found out that fglrx is being used from my pastebin?
[21:09] <daftykins> me2: read it
[21:09] <SchrodingersScat> bob2017: you may want something like, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DriveImaging
[21:10] <Finetundra> ioria: yes, there is no issue with dd. It was an issue that occured during the copying to the img file
[21:11] <bob2017> schrodingersscat - that looks like what i’m looking for but the key is finding an image :p
[21:11] <bob2017> bashing-om - I don’t have GRUB installed, i’m afriad
[21:11] <ioria> Finetundra,  let me try again
[21:12] <CruelDualBoot> I'm booting a live session from USB onto a UEFI comp with Windows 8.1 installed, but the boot menu isn't coming up after I install. Some tutorials have said I need to make a "UEFI bootable USB" to install it right, but if I'm already booting from the USB, doesn't that mean it's UEFI-compatible already?
[21:13] <ioria> Finetundra,  dd : writing to '/devfd0': input/output  error ?
[21:13] <[Mew2]> anyone using fail2ban?
[21:13] <senaps> daftykins: tried but didn't work :( (the screen brightness thing)....
[21:13] <ed__> Disk priority in BIOS?
[21:13] <Finetundra> ioria: are you asking me?
[21:13] <ioria> Finetundra,  yep... what error you got ?
[21:13] <senaps> daftykins: any other solution?
[21:14] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375483/
[21:14] <Tynach> CruelDualBoot, have you made sure that your UEFI settings (like, the BIOS setup thing in your system) is set to try to boot Ubuntu's bootloader first?
[21:14] <ed__> Many failures to boot are resultant from not setting th ebootable disk as the priority in the BIOS.
[21:14] <liam> Problems with sound on Ubuntu Chromebook...earphones would start automatically, sound poor at first. Anyone help?
[21:14] <daftykins> senaps: are you booted in having tried to add that parameter right now? confirm it was taken by showing me "cat /proc/cmdline"
[21:14] <Finetundra> ioria: the only error I encountered was that it wasn't writing to the floppy. This has been resolved
[21:14] <[Mew2]> hey guys can anyone help me with fail2ban?
[21:15] <ioria> Finetundra,  ok.... so solved . good
[21:15] <vince_> CruelDualBoot, http://www.rodsbooks.com/linux-uefi/ this has quite a bit of useful information about installing Linux with on a computer with UEFI
[21:15] <daftykins> [Mew2]: not without an actual question
[21:15] <senaps> daftykins : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.19.0-26-generic root=UUID=07b219ef-8714-4449-91d7-33c1930958c2 ro quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor vt.handoff=7
[21:16] <SchrodingersScat> bob2017: you would need to make it
[21:16] <[Mew2]> well im configuring it and i dont know what sopme of these things are like dropbear, ssh-ddos
[21:16] <CruelDualBoot> I've opened setup at the start, and turned off "fast boot" as well as changing a few other settings, trial-and-error style. All I've accomplished is adding a system beep when the comp powers on that is apparently permanent now... :/
[21:16] <[Mew2]> i want to enable all of them
[21:16] <daftykins> senaps: ok, you'll probably have to look up the right parameter for your model system
[21:16] <daftykins> [Mew2]: doesn't sound wise.
[21:16] <daftykins> read the man page for it :)
[21:16] <senaps> daftykins : how to find it?
[21:16] <Finetundra> ioria: of course it helps to let dd finish writing the disk
[21:17] <daftykins> senaps: your favourite search engine...
[21:17] <[Mew2]> ok daftykins thx
[21:17] <ioria> Finetundra,  sure :þ
[21:17] <CruelDualBoot> My main concern is my next step... do I follow the steps to make the UEFI-Bootable USB drive, or do I try messing with the bootloader so it will recognize GRUB?
[21:17] <liam> Sound problem anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375483/
[21:17] <senaps> daftykins, : :) okay thanks...
[21:18] <nicomachus> liam: what log is this?
[21:18] <daftykins> nicomachus: the wrong one
[21:18] <daftykins> :D
[21:18] <nicomachus> looks like xOrg... definitely not related to sound
[21:19] <BenLubar> If I do sudo do-release-upgrade -d, can I go from that to the released LTS in April or am I stuck on development versions?
[21:19] <nicomachus> liam: what's your exact sound problem?
[21:19] <senaps> daftykins : i can't lower my brightness from power options too, that make any difference?
[21:19] <bekks> BenLubar: Depends on which version you are on, currently.
[21:19] <BenLubar> bekks: I'm on 14.04 LTS
[21:19] <daftykins> BenLubar: that takes you to 16.04 because it *is* the current dev version, but it's generally not advisable to use.
[21:19] <Bashing-om> BenLubar: The 'd' argument is for (D)evelopment version .
[21:20] <bekks> BenLubar: Then you can use do-release-upgrade in April an update to 16.04 directly.
[21:20] <BenLubar> yeah, I need some packages that aren't available on trusty-backports
[21:20] <nicomachus> !pm | liam
[21:21] <liam> Ubottu, i did ask in the channell
[21:21] <liam> I will ask again
[21:21] <liam> lol.....fair enough
[21:22] <liam> nico...my apologies, its a long time since i was on this
[21:23] <liam> My sound is muffled and patchy at first until i turn volum up, then it becomes clear. Also, the earphones are not automatically selected
 I have to manually choose between earphones and speakers, and to get them to work properly I need to run at full volume to kick in
[21:23] <nicomachus> liam: what's your ubuntu version?
[21:23] <liam> 14.04LTS the complication is i am running on a Chromebook
[21:25] <nicomachus> liam: ok, so it does work it just sounds bad at low volume?
[21:26] <liam> Yes, that's right...it sounds bad, until you push it to full volume, then it sounds fina and can be varied without problem. Also, it will not auto connect to earphones, it has to be manually chosen
[21:28] <EFrost7th> Drone
[21:28] <EFrost7th> Ikonia
[21:28] <EFrost7th> any responses?
[21:29] <EFrost7th> gh0st
[21:29] <EFrost7th> hello
[21:29] <k1l> EFrost7th: what is the ubuntu issue?
[21:29] <[Mew2]> how do i know if fail2ban is running?
[21:29] <Elixio> very strange question, i post this question because this is a large channel, but i am looking for someone who speaks chinees
[21:30] <nicomachus> liam: I'm looking at this thread: https://github.com/dnschneid/crouton/issues/791
[21:30] <Ben64> Elixio: if its not about ubuntu support, it doesn't belong in this channel
[21:30] <nicomachus> liam: it seems they were able to fix by switching from a beta channel (of crouton, I suppose?) to a stable channel. any chance that could apply for you?
[21:30] <k1l> [Mew2]: there is a process running
[21:30] <Elixio> you are right Ben64
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> !cn | Elixio
[21:30] <EFrost7th> how do i bounce my connections on the whole world and then connect to the target computer?
[21:30] <Elixio> and its not about ubuntu,
[21:30] <liam> Thanks, but I am not running off crouton...I did a direct install of Ubuntu..wiped ChromeOS,
[21:30] <Elixio> thanks
[21:31] <keli> cant find the minimize and all other buttons after iinstalling compiz
[21:31] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-xxx:~$ fail2ban-client start
[21:31] <[Mew2]> ERROR  Directory /var/run/fail2ban exists but not accessible for writing
[21:31] <Ben64> MonkeyDust: so send him to the chinese ubuntu channel to be offtopic there?
[21:31] <[Mew2]> this means its not running?
[21:31] <liam> thanks nico
[21:31] <keli> any help
[21:31] <nicomachus> liam: ok. still looking. it's an odd error.
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> Ben64  i wasnt aware it wasnt about ubuntu
[21:31] <EFrost7th> any hacker here?
[21:31] <nicomachus> !coc > EFrost7th
[21:32] <k1l> EFrost7th: this is not a malicious hacker channel. so please stop with that topics in here.
[21:32] <Bashing-om> !ask | keli We wont know 'til you say
[21:32] <BPTtone> hello, all. I have a question about apt-get
[21:32] <k1l> [Mew2]: you run it as a service (since its a daemon): sudo service fail2ban start
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-:~$ fail2ban-client start
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ERROR  Directory /var/run/fail2ban exists but not accessible for writing
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-:~$ fail2ban-client status
[21:33] <[Mew2]> ERROR  Unable to contact server. Is it running?
[21:33] <Ben64> [Mew2]: why do you need fail2ban
[21:33] <EFrost7th> wrong channel then
[21:33] <k1l> [Mew2]: how did you install fail2ban? did you use the ubuntu package from the repo?
[21:33] <[Mew2]> yes
[21:33] <nicomachus> liam: what's the hardware model? perhaps there's someone with the same notebook having a similar issue
[21:33] <EFrost7th> im looking for the typical channel, any help?
[21:33] <k1l> [Mew2]: so start the daemon, not the client
[21:34] <[Mew2]> how?
[21:34] <keli> minimize button is missing after installing compiz
[21:34] <nicomachus> !alis > EFrost7th
[21:34] <k1l> EFrost7th: not on freenode.
[21:34] <k1l> [Mew2]: scroll back up, i already told you
[21:34] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375483/
[21:34]  * [Mew2] looks
[21:34] <nicomachus> liam: your xOrg log isn't gonna tell me anything here...
[21:34] <james99> Can someone help me? How do I run a df-h command to check for disksapce and run it in cron at 13:00 pm everyday and email it to me?
[21:35] <liam> what should I pasrebin?
[21:35] <nicomachus> liam: lshw would help.
[21:35] <[Mew2]>  * Starting authentication failure monitor fail2ban                                                                                                                       [ OK ]
[21:35] <[Mew2]> 1. how can i verify its running, and 2. will this auto start on reboot?
[21:36] <k1l> [Mew2]: see the process list.
[21:36] <[Mew2]> ps?
[21:36] <k1l> yes
[21:36] <climjark> hello all :)
[21:36] <liam> what directory is lshw again?
[21:36] <k1l> and yes, it should autostart now.
[21:36] <k1l> liam: no directory. its a command
[21:36] <[Mew2]> ubuntu@ip-:~$ ps
[21:36] <[Mew2]>   PID TTY          TIME CMD
[21:36] <[Mew2]>  4314 pts/0    00:00:00 bash
[21:36] <[Mew2]>  5264 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[21:37] <nicomachus> liam: it's a command. :) "sudo lshw | pastebinit"
[21:37] <k1l> [Mew2]: ps ax | grep fail2ban
[21:37] <BPTtone> can anyone tell me what apt-get -f install does?  Tried Google without luck
[21:37] <[Mew2]>  5181 ?        Sl     0:02 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fail2ban-server -b -s /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock -p /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.pid
[21:37] <[Mew2]>  5269 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto fail2ban
[21:37] <[Mew2]> good?
[21:38] <liam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14375902/
[21:38] <k1l> [Mew2]: what you think? does this look like a process is running?
[21:38] <[Mew2]> it looks like its running twice
[21:38] <[Mew2]> 2 pid's?
[21:39] <k1l> no, the second on is the grep process itself. look at the output. its quite self explaining
[21:39] <MarcL> kubuntu has the same update of ubuntu or is less mainteined? I like KDE so what is the ubuntu community advice.. to install ubuntu and kde or kubuntu?
[21:39] <[Mew2]> ok thanks k1l !
[21:39] <[Mew2]> <3
[21:39] <Ben64> MarcL: kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde, so do whatever you want
[21:39] <nicomachus> liam: ok, is this a Toshiba or HP?
[21:39] <[Mew2]> reboot brb
[21:40] <k1l> MarcL: the kubuntu community maintaines the kde packages. the rest of the packages are the same like on ubuntu. choose what you like most.
[21:40] <liam> Neither...Dell Chromebook 11 (Candy) Intel Baytrail
[21:40] <BPTtone> can anyone tell me what apt-get -f install does?  Tried Google without luck
[21:41] <xeth> question, would anyone here know how to move ubuntu from a vmware VM running in windows to its own hdd as a full system?
[21:41] <nicomachus> BPTtone: https://askubuntu.com/questions/58378/what-exactly-does-sudo-apt-get-f-install-do
[21:41] <nicomachus> first google result.
[21:41] <k1l> BPTtone: forces an install on all packages that are in cue
[21:42] <BPTtone> thank you....my browser kept crashing and that was recommended
[21:42] <BPTtone> I will try...thanks again
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> xeth  very basic: backup your /home ... use it for the new installation
[21:43] <qu4nt1n> !s star wars the force awakens
[21:43] <k1l> !warez | qu4nt1n
[21:43] <nicomachus> liam: ok, I found someone with similar issues on that model, and they were able to play with the settings in "alsamixer" (equalizer program) to get the sound better.
[21:44] <liam> Thanks dude, I will try Alsa mixer a little more
[21:44] <MarcL> Ben64, k1l  I just was not sure because i did not see anymore any link from the ubuntu website to the derivates so I thought that they don't advice anymore them to the users but just ubuntu and then to add later the favourite environment..
[21:45] <k1l> MarcL: "....and other flavours" that links to the cdimage site with all official versions
[21:47] <[Mew2]> fail2ban doesnt work, i ssh in 5 times with incorrect password and still able to continue guessing
[21:48] <MarcL> k1l, Ben64    thanks
[21:48] <k1l> [Mew2]: then look at the config
[21:49] <k1l> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban
[21:49] <[Mew2]> what should i be looking for
[21:50] <xeth> MonkeyDust: Thanks, ill give that a shot and see how it works
[21:53] <[Mew2]> what is dropbear?
[21:54] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dropbear
[21:54] <[Mew2]> thanks nicomachus
[21:57] <[Mew2]> that doesnt tell me
[21:57] <[Mew2]> im looking for these config options definitions
[21:58] <[Mew2]> dropbear ssh sshddos xinet etc
[21:59] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/fail2ban.1.html
[22:03] <sorin-mihai> i'm trying to disable all messages from dmesg showing up on boot. I tried with /etc/sysctl.d/20-quiet-printk.conf set to 0 0 0 0 and loglevel=0 rd.udev.log-priority=0 quiet on the kernel command line. nothing actually works, I get some errors from drm/i915 and some udev related to a usb disk. any idea?
[22:03] <climjark> hello
[22:04] <climjark> can someone send me a link to a pdf of something along the lines of linux documentation and such?
[22:04] <[Mew2]> i dont see the fail2ban config option definitions in there anywhere nicomachus
[22:04] <k1l> !docs | climjark
[22:05] <SpaceAce> How can i check the temperature of my server via command line?
[22:05] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: under "Description". 3rd paragraph.
[22:05] <k1l> SpaceAce: lm_sensors is the thing to use
[22:05] <nicomachus> SpaceAce: lm-sensors
[22:05] <daftykins> SpaceAce: install lm-sensors and run 'sensors' - but it needs to be a real bare-metal OS
[22:05] <SpaceAce> thanks guys
[22:05] <climjark> ahh thanks.ill check that out! im a computer science enthusiast and want to learn as much as i can haha
[22:06] <[Mew2]> nicomachus
[22:06] <[Mew2]> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/jail.conf.5.html
[22:06] <[Mew2]> did U read it?
[22:06] <[Mew2]> cuz it aint got what im asking
[22:06] <nicomachus> no [Mew2] I didn't, that's your job... I don't need to learn about fail2ban
[22:06] <[Mew2]> yea
[22:07] <[Mew2]> it doesnt have what im asking
[22:07] <k1l> [Mew2]: there is still the official fail2ban docs: http://www.fail2ban.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[22:07] <[Mew2]> i looked there also, nothing
[22:07] <nicomachus> I'm sure there's something. look again.
[22:07] <MiningMarsh> SpaceAce: If you want to script something using temperature, `find /sys | grep temp`, most newer systems I see use coretemp at /sys/devices/platform/coretemp.0/hwmon/hwmon1/temp%i_input
[22:08] <[Mew2]> why dont you verify yyour statements before making them
[22:08] <MiningMarsh> SpaceAce: Can be a bit faster than trying to parse the output of `sensors`
[22:08] <SpaceAce> thanks MiningMarsh. running sensors has given me enough info, though :)
[22:08] <nicomachus> [Mew2]: because this is a troubleshooting and support forum, not a teaching one.
[22:08] <SpaceAce> I just wanted to see if my NAS was overheating after i cleaned the CPU fan
[22:09] <[Mew2]> nicomachus u giving me info that i already read
[22:09] <[Mew2]> and its not helpful
[22:09] <k1l> [Mew2]: why do you want us to do your job and reading about it? we are providing help to help yourself.
[22:09] <nicomachus> well sorry, I'll just stop then.
[22:09] <[Mew2]> nicomachus i appriciate you trying tho
[22:13] <[Mew2]> anyone else use fail2ban?
[22:13] <bekks> A lot of people do.
[22:13] <den-3local-den> hi. i am try to figure out bash and write some simply script`s. one of them install in vagrant zsh. all installed done but have question about post install.  by step chsh -s /bin/zsh; shell ask me a password. how can use chsh -s /bin/zsh without input password?
[22:13] <stacks88> if i want /home/file.sh to be launched upon system startup, do i add it to /etc/rc.local ? if so, ive got a freshly installed 14.04 system, do i add /home/file.sh BEFORE the exit 0 or after ?
[22:14] <daftykins> den-3local-den: ask in #bash
[22:14] <daftykins> den-3local-den: ah nm i should've finished reading before pointing ;)
[22:14] <Ben64> stacks88: depends what that script is and what it does
[22:14] <k1l> [Mew2]: did you actually read the config files? they got extended explanaition itself. even the ubuntu wiki help page had lots of info. so what is your specific issue now?
[22:14] <stacks88> launches a few processes
[22:14] <den-3local-den> daftykins, ))
[22:14] <Ben64> stacks88: cool, very descriptive
[22:15] <jaqent> Hi, I'm trying to run mosix/vcl and I'm getting this error -> /etc/init.d/vcl: 107: /etc/init.d/vcl: checkproc: not found <-- could someone point me in the right direction?
[22:15] <[Mew2]> i cant find a single explanation of jail.conf options
[22:15] <k1l> stacks88: rc.local will run on every boot and will run as sudo. so witht hat less info, no dont run "some stuff" as root on every boot.
[22:15] <k1l> [Mew2]: what options?
[22:16] <k1l> [Mew2]: its self explaining.
[22:16] <stacks88> k1l but should things be placed before the exit 0 ? i am assuming so
[22:16] <Ben64> stacks88: you're likely doing it very wrong
[22:17] <k1l> [Mew2]: where is your specific issue? did you read the header of the file? what dont you understand?
[22:17] <senaps> i have done the instructions in here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight/
[22:17] <jaqent> I'm running on Ubuntu 14.04 btw
[22:18] <stacks88> in /home/test.sh ive got ( while true ; do uptime >> /home/sites/$(hostname)/public_html/uptime.txt ; sleep 25 ; done ) & .. so my goal is to run this upon the system boot. so ive already got /home/test.sh in /etc/rc.local before the 'exit 0' line.. and it works fine.. but was wondering if i was doing it wrong.. though there is no issue, its working fine
[22:18] <senaps> Please comment on if the brightness changes.     so the brighness changes but how and where should i make a comment?
[22:18] <stacks88> Ben64: so there you have it, im likely doing it wrong, whats the right way? if thatst what is inside the .sh file
[22:19] <Ben64> stacks88: what are you trying to run
[22:19] <stacks88> i just told you.. /home/test.sh i want to be ran upon system startup.. and inside test.sh is 1 line: ( while true ; do uptime >> /home/sites/$(hostname)/public_html/uptime.txt ; sleep 25 ; done ) &
[22:19] <daftykins> senaps: write up some info on http://paste.ubuntu.com to tell us what's working maybe
[22:19] <stacks88> ive already got /home/test.sh in /etc/rc.local before the 'exit 0' line.. and it works fine.. but you say im doing it wrong, so what is the right approach ? to launch /home/test.sh upon system startup
[22:20] <okay19> I have some questions about fixing bugs. Is this the right place to ask them?
[22:20] <Ben64> stacks88: ooh yeah don't put that there, put it in cron
[22:20] <daftykins> okay19: as in... what?
[22:20] <stacks88> what is the downside to putting it in rc.local ?
[22:20] <stacks88> or why not rather*, just trying to understand the mistake
[22:20] <Ben64> stacks88: you're running some weird crap as root every 25 seconds
[22:21] <okay19> daftykins: Once the change has been made on a local branch, should I attach a patch to the bug tracker or submit a merge proposal to the original branch?
[22:22] <daftykins> !bug
[22:22] <daftykins> hmm no talk of a channel specifically
[22:23] <k1l> okay19: honestly i would ask the maintainer of that package how its best practice
[22:24] <senaps> daftykins : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376636/
[22:25] <okay19> I read the bug fixing page from the packaging guide, but it gives instructions for both.
[22:25] <[Mew2]> [ssh][dropbear][pam-generic][pam-generic][xinetd-fail][ssh-ddos][ssh-route]
[22:25] <[Mew2]> this is my issue
[22:25] <[Mew2]> an explanation fo what these do
[22:25] <[Mew2]> no where to be found
[22:25] <daftykins> [Mew2]: no that's just spam from where i'm sitting.
[22:25] <Ben64> ssh is for ssh, dropbear is for dropbear.....
[22:26] <Ben64> [Mew2]: what are you actually trying to accomplish
[22:26] <[Mew2]> Ben64 please scroll up and read
[22:26] <Ben64> no, what are you actually trying to accomplish
[22:26] <Ben64> different from what you're trying to do right now
[22:26] <[Mew2]> read or dont respond
[22:26] <Ben64> what is your end goal
[22:26] <[Mew2]> doesnt matter
[22:26] <Ben64> it does
[22:26] <[Mew2]> this is what im askin
[22:26] <bekks> [Mew2]: thats the fast.forward way to not get help. ;)
[22:27] <[Mew2]> [ssh][dropbear][pam-generic][pam-generic][xinetd-fail][ssh-ddos][ssh-route]
[22:27] <daftykins> [Mew2]: You are the one asking for help, it is YOUR job to work to get answers. Note that you're going to get ignored by all the volunteers for presenting an utterly terrible attitude very shortly.
[22:27] <k1l> [Mew2]: its the names of the services
[22:27] <bekks> [Mew2]: those are random words, enclosed in brackets. Whats your question?
[22:27] <[Mew2]> how hard is it to understand
[22:27] <Ben64> you keep asking questions here, since yesterday i've seen you repeating very easily googable questions, and getting all uppity when people try to have you explain
[22:27] <[Mew2]> im tryign to get an explanation fo these item in the config file
[22:27] <[Mew2]> [ssh][dropbear][pam-generic][pam-generic][xinetd-fail][ssh-ddos][ssh-route]
[22:27] <daftykins> [Mew2]: i ask myself the same of how you can't work out how to use the program from its' documentation.
[22:27] <Ben64> so explain yourself
[22:27] <k1l> [Mew2]: its like asking us "what is ford, bmw, mercedes?"  its kind of obvious
[22:28] <[Mew2]> right so i enabled them
[22:28] <Ben64> [Mew2]: what are you trying to accomplish with all of your questions here over the past day or so
[22:28] <[Mew2]> and they dont work
[22:28] <amanojaku> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 14.04, LTS. I cannot seem to be able to run ANY third party apps including Lightworks, Aftershot Pro, and Shotcut. I get segfault errors, core dumps, and other similar issues.
[22:28] <k1l> [Mew2]: to be 100% precise. its the name of the filters.
[22:29] <[Mew2]> so glad i came here
[22:29] <daftykins> amanojaku: where are those installed from? ubuntu repos, or otherwise?
[22:29] <amanojaku> Lots of 'Ubuntu internal errors' as well.
[22:29] <Ben64> [Mew2]: it seems to me that you're looking at some guide that says "you should use fail2ban" and so you're trying to do that without having a clue what it does or why you need it
[22:29] <daftykins> [Mew2]: drop the attitude immediately.
[22:29] <k1l> [Mew2]: the exact service that will be listened to is named some few lines below
[22:29] <daftykins> amanojaku: hmm is it possible your system has a hardware issue?
[22:30] <amanojaku> daftykins, These are third party applications that claim theor programs rung on Linux, including Ubuntu
[22:30] <daftykins> amanojaku: right but how are they *installed* ? :)
[22:30] <amanojaku> daftykins, I have an AMD CPU, quadcore with 16 gigs of ram and a radeon graphics card
[22:30] <bob3247> can someone on ubuntu check something for me?
[22:30] <senaps> daftykins : http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376636/  this is the file you wanted?
[22:31] <nicomachus> !ask | bob3247
[22:31] <amanojaku> daftykins, There is a .deb package that is installed through the ubuntu software centre or a ppa
[22:31] <amanojaku> daftykins, Where I do a sudo-apt-get update
[22:31] <bob3247> the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d what should be the file owner/group and chmod?
[22:31] <amanojaku> daftykins, But it is possible there could be hardware issues
[22:32] <Ben64> bob3247: root, don't mess with them
[22:32] <amanojaku> daftykins, Do you suggest a re-install, perhaps?
[22:32] <nicomachus> amanojaku: those are all video editors, right? what's the GPU chipset?
[22:32] <amanojaku> nicomachus, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Oland PRO [Radeon R7 240]
[22:32] <amanojaku> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cape Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series]
[22:33] <amanojaku> nicomachus, A graphics card and an APU
[22:33] <bob3247> Ben64, sorry that dont answer my question
[22:33] <daftykins> amanojaku: could be that those programs don't enjoy a lack of propietary graphics driver if one hasn't been added yet
[22:33] <bob3247> the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d what should be the file owner/group and chmod?
[22:33] <Ben64> bob3247: did  you do something to them already?
[22:34] <bob3247> can someone check their system?
[22:34] <Ben64> bob3247: why won't you answer this simple question
[22:34] <daftykins> amanojaku: but the other errors don't sound too good, i'd memtest the install or have a look at whether "dmesg | tail" is showing anything bad (don't paste here, use http://paste.ubuntu.com )
[22:34] <k1l> bob3247: root. and 644
[22:34] <daftykins> senaps: yep one moment reading
[22:34] <amanojaku> daftykins, I did install the ATI radeon graphics driver, updated version. (There are two choices, radeon and radeon update, the former just blanks out on my monitors)
[22:34] <daftykins> AMD, not ATI.
[22:34] <bob3247> thanks kll
[22:35] <amanojaku> daftykins, AMD/ATI are the same company, no?
[22:35] <daftykins> they haven't been called ATI for a large number of years ;)
[22:35] <rww> AMD bought ATI a few years ago.
[22:35] <k1l> bob3247: fiddeling there needs root/sudo permissions. you should be more aware using that superpower in future.
[22:35] <HoloPed> hey all, I enabled remote desktop on my ubutnu 14.04 and I can't connect. "No supported authentication methods"
[22:35] <HoloPed> what do I do now ?
[22:35] <daftykins> senaps: as i suggested earlier, try adding: video.use_native_backlight=1
[22:35] <Ben64> HoloPed: get a better vnc client
[22:36] <bob3247> who says i fiddled with them kll
[22:36] <HoloPed> Ben64, tried with TightVNC and with UltraVNC
[22:36] <HoloPed> same
[22:36] <HoloPed> same results
[22:36] <amanojaku> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376800/
[22:37] <k1l> bob3247: else you would not have to worry about them
[22:37] <daftykins> amanojaku: sounds like VLC has also had issues running?
[22:37] <Ben64> HoloPed: different does not equal better, the default vnc server in ubuntu uses encryption that some clients don't support
[22:37] <amanojaku> daftykins, On occassion, yes. I just reboot when that happens
[22:37] <HoloPed> Ben64, can you recommend a client that does support it ?
[22:37] <Ben64> HoloPed: for windows, right
[22:37] <HoloPed> yes
[22:37] <daftykins> amanojaku: definitely not good. which kernel? "uname -r" (it's one line so you can paste here)
[22:38] <amanojaku> 3.19.0-42
[22:38] <nicomachus> amanojaku: it sounds like you're getting a lot of the errors I got when I was running on bad RAM.
[22:38] <bob3247> kll, i just needed to do a sanity check to make sure they were correct, which they were, thx for checking for me
[22:38] <k1l> bob3247: ok
[22:39] <amanojaku> daftykins, Perhaps a later version of Ubuntu is called for instead of LTS?
[22:39] <nicomachus> amanojaku: 3.19.0-42 isn't LTS. what's the output of "lsb_release -a"?
[22:39] <daftykins> amanojaku: that or a newer graphics driver, something is definitely sick - i'm assuming a memtest is fine also
[22:39] <nicomachus> ah .3 IS the 3.19. oops.
[22:40] <Ben64> HoloPed: http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/ssvnc.html
[22:40] <amanojaku> daftykins, Yes, the memtest is fine
[22:41] <senaps> daftykins : i add this like after that splash thing right?
[22:41] <daftykins> senaps: yep
[22:41] <KNNNI> When I make a startup disk
[22:41] <KNNNI> does it delete everything on the USB stick?
[22:41] <amanojaku> daftykins, You know, it could also just be a matter of filing aseries of bug reports with third party providers and Ubuntu forums
[22:41] <daftykins> amanojaku: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep fglr | pastebinit"
[22:41] <KNNNI> Or can I leave my files there and still make it work as a bootable USB?
[22:42] <HoloPed> Ben64, that worked. thanks.
[22:42] <gaby_> Hi everyone :) I'm currently facing some problem with the installation of a PPA, and I wanted to know if someone could help me with it (I don't think it's a big deal, I'm just told that the package couldn't be found)
[22:42] <daftykins> amanojaku: i'm focussing on what can be done in the here and now rather than the long-game really ;)
[22:42] <nicomachus> gaby_: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after isntalling the ppa?
[22:42] <Ben64> HoloPed: :D
[22:42] <amanojaku> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376900/
[22:42] <Dylan____> Is LIbreoffice 4 the latest version for ubuntu 14.04 or can it be updated to 5 through a ppa?
[22:42] <gaby_> nicomachus: yes I did :)
[22:42] <KNNNI> Why do so few Ubuntu users use GNOME?
[22:43] <amanojaku> nicomachus, Indeed, I did. I am pretty vigilant about updates
[22:43] <tsapii> it appears that chkdsk gets stuck at 10% when fuxing the disk
[22:43] <nicomachus> gaby_: what's the ppa, and what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:43] <daftykins> amanojaku: and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[22:43] <tsapii> the drive may be more faulty than i anticipated..
[22:43] <Ben64> Dylan____: there might be a ppa, but ppas aren't supported here, you're on your own with that
[22:43] <k1l> KNNNI: its some sort of taste. and the typical gnome distribution is fedora.
[22:43] <Dylan____> Hmm ok thanks ben
[22:44] <amanojaku> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14376922/
[22:44] <tsapii> the laptop wad once spilt drink on and recently came back to life
[22:44] <tsapii> so this doesn't really surprise me
[22:44] <gaby_> @nicomachus: the ppa is the following: ppa:iacobs/au6601 ; I'm currently on the 15.04
[22:44] <daftykins> tsapii: this the win8 factory install still? can you run crystaldiskinfo on it (Windows) or run some commands from an ubuntu live session?
[22:45] <nicomachus> gaby_: it doesn't appear that ppa has a version for 15.10
[22:45] <tsapii> the laptop saw use for 3 weeks before the incident
[22:46] <tsapii> i believe that windows was installed on it once only
[22:46] <daftykins> amanojaku: yep looks like many graphical issues are being caused by a bad driver
[22:46] <tsapii> i can mount the drive from a live sessio
[22:46] <tsapii> session*
[22:46] <gaby_> @nicomachus: so ut explains that I can't install it? It's a patch made to fix a bug with a card reader (card not detected)
[22:46] <amanojaku> daftykins, Maybe I need to try the beta graphics drivers...
[22:47] <amanojaku> daftykins, Thank you very much for isolating the issue
[22:47] <nicomachus> gaby_: no, you can't install that. sorry.
[22:47] <daftykins> amanojaku: np, good luck
[22:47] <gaby_> @nicomachus: aargh, ok thank you very much, I'll keep looking for other solutions then
[22:48] <alexxx> hello
[22:48] <tsapii> daftykins: what is this crystadiskinfo?
[22:48] <tsapii> crystaldiskinfo*
[22:49] <nicomachus> gaby_: you can add your name to this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1270676
[22:49] <daftykins> tsapii: a Windows SMART disk info utility
[22:50] <senaps> daftykins : wow, man it did work.... thank you...  just edit the grub file and make changes in it to make it perminant right?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: Dual AMD cards ??/ what does ' lspci -vnn | grep -i VGA ' reveal ?
[22:51] <daftykins> senaps: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub" ; place it at the right variable and then "sudo update-grub" yep
[22:51] <gaby_> nicomachus: thanks, I was on this page. I'm going to add my name, but I'm quite hopeless ahah, this issue hasn't been solved for quite a while now ^^
[22:51] <nicomachus> gaby_: cross your fingers for a fix in 16.04 then. :)
[22:52] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14377039/
[22:52] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, They are compatible, it is called 'crossfire'
[22:53] <gaby_> nicomachus: I'll do that, thank you anyway :)
[22:53] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, Merging an APU with the graphics card
[22:53] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: K; look'n .
[22:53] <tsapii> i'll give it a spin when i have a chance to, and will report back
[22:55] <daftykins> tsapii: a couple of commands from the ubuntu live session would be easier to get an idea if the disk is damaged
[22:56] <KNNNI> Is Fedora preferred for GNOME than Ubuntu GNOME?
[22:56] <tsapii> what kind of commands?
[22:56] <daftykins> KNNNI: ash in #gnome
[22:57] <daftykins> tsapii: depends, do you have a live session booted on that system right now?
[22:57] <tsapii> KNNNI: ehy are you asking in here about it?
[22:57] <tsapii> daftykins: not at the moment. it is shut down
[22:57] <KNNNI> tsapii: Because I'm thinking of switching to Ubuntu GNOME
[22:57] <daftykins> user is struggling with channels for appropriate support ;)
[22:57] <KNNNI> tsapii: But now I found out that Fedora is the Gnome distro most love best.
[22:58] <daftykins> that would make #ubuntu an unwise channel to discuss it, then
[22:58] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: After the driver was installed, did you ' aticonfig --adapter=all --initial -f ' ?
[22:58] <tsapii> well i'd suppose that people in here would have some bias as to what they would find their most suitable os to be
[22:59] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, I used 'settings' and 'additional drivers'
[22:59] <daftykins> tsapii: yeah hence trying to direct to the right channels to ask
[22:59] <tsapii> right
[23:00] <tsapii> anyway i can boot to both windows and the live session when i get to the laptop again
[23:00] <lyzya> i use lubuntu 15.10 ... i installed "browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash" and "pepperflashplugin-nonfree" ... is pepperflash stuck to a 20.0.0.228 version
[23:00] <daftykins> tsapii: when'll that be?
[23:01] <tsapii> i remain curious as to what the commands are
[23:01] <daftykins> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[23:01] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: Let's verify that the FGLRX drivr is loaded . what returns ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? Then we run the aticonfig command IF the driver is loaded .
[23:01] <tsapii> i'll be at my laptop shortly, say in 15 minutes
[23:02] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14377182/
[23:02] <daftykins> tsapii: well curiosity is nice but there's not much point until you're in front of it :)
[23:02] <tsapii> i suppose so
[23:04] <Malgorath> do you guys think a dual core amd at 1.8Ghz 3G Ram and a 60G SSD is good enough to run ubuntu 15.10?
[23:04] <daftykins> pretty pitiful specs, depends what the use-case is.
[23:05] <Malgorath> basically gonna be a dev box for web apps
[23:05] <daftykins> so server only install, that you'll deal with remotely from elsewhere...?
[23:05] <Malgorath> yes
[23:05] <rww> will be fine
[23:06] <daftykins> as long as it's on lovely wired LAN ;)
[23:07] <Malgorath> can't run a server from wifi?
[23:07] <k1l> KNNNI: gnome and fedora are made by redhat.  but nevertheless, the gnome team does a great job on the ubuntu gnome flavour.
[23:07] <daftykins> Malgorath: it's idiotic
[23:07] <Bashing-om> amanojaku: That syas no driver is loaded .. How have you tried to install the proprietary driver ? does ' /usr/share/ati/fglrx-uninstall.sh ' apply ?
[23:07] <Guest31374> Que onda!
[23:08] <KNNNI> kll: The actual GNOME team is behind GNOME for Ubuntu?
[23:08] <lyzya> newest pepperflash is 20.0.0.267 and mine is 20.0.0.228 and won't update to a newest by command ... does anyone know why
[23:08] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, I used the GUI graphical drivers installer
[23:08] <KNNNI> kll: In your opinion does Ubuntu GNOME run slower than Ubuntu MATE?
[23:09] <Malgorath> daftykins, do you have some logic or data to back that up? or is that just a personal opinoin?
[23:09] <ssfdre38> i am trying to set up a vhost on apache but im getting an error 403 and i did set it up right to read the vhost to send to the right docroot
[23:11] <daftykins> ssfdre38: you moved the default config and edited it to reflect the new vhost yes? or were there already multiple on this server?
[23:11] <k1l> KNNNI: dont know about actual comparisons in speed of gnome-shell and mate.
[23:11] <daftykins> ssfdre38: the facts speak for themselves - since it doesn't work, you can't have done it right ;)
[23:12] <amanojaku> Bashing-om, But you make an interesting observation.
[23:12] <KNNNI> "Even to this day people keep complaining about GNOME 3, how the interface doesn’t make sense, how the developers don’t listen, and how the design is brain-dead."
[23:12] <Guest31374> Drone!
[23:12] <KNNNI> Appears GNOME 3 should be relegated to a niche segment. Most dislike it.
[23:12] <daftykins> !es | Guest31374
[23:12] <ssfdre38> daftykins, i made a copy of 000-default.conf and changed all the variables to match what im trying to do and it is no longer reading the default doc root but it is just showing a 403 error code
[23:13] <amanojaku> Iam gonna reboot and see what happens
[23:13] <k1l> KNNNI: its the same with unity. you only hear the loudest voices complaining.
[23:13] <daftykins> ssfdre38: you then enabled the site by name? so it's present in both sites-available and sites-enabled?
[23:13] <Guest31374> Contesta
[23:13] <ssfdre38> yes
[23:13] <daftykins> ssfdre38: restart apache2 and see if it errors out
[23:13] <KNNNI> Look at this:
[23:14] <ssfdre38> already did several times
[23:14] <KNNNI> "Happy GNOME 3 user here. I would go so far as to say I don’t think I could go back to GNOME 2 at this point, and if GNOME 3 were to change rather drastically I’d probably look for something with at least some similar to GNOME 3 (although unfortunately Unity is the only thing I’m aware of and it’s still not even close)."
[23:14] <daftykins> ssfdre38: wouldn't be surprised if the apache user hasn't got the correct permissions on the path you set it to
[23:14] <daftykins> KNNNI: you're going way too off topic now, this is support not desktop religion
[23:14] <k1l> KNNNI: do you have an actual ubuntu issue? else i would ask you to switch to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat about gnome.
[23:14] <ssfdre38> so i need to change the chown to www
[23:15] <mesho> الله يسعدك ي اسامه ..
[23:15] <mesho> اقصد انها موجوده على يسار البرنامج ..
[23:15] <daftykins> ssfdre38: i'd rather see some evidence of what i'm asking rather than you just start throwing permission changes around :)
[23:15] <daftykins> mesho: english only channel.
[23:15] <d21anthony> Anyone have a UI based solution/package for altering suspend behavior? Resuming using keyboard for example
[23:16] <arkangel> ?
[23:19] <lmw> hi
[23:19] <daftykins> hello
[23:19] <d21anthony> Arkangel: was that ? for me
[23:22] <ssfdre38> daftykins, http://ssfdre38.info/img/screenshot.1.jpg http://ssfdre38.info/img/screenshot.2.jpg http://ssfdre38.info/img/screenshot.3.jpg
[23:25] <liam> Can anyone help with a sound problem on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS running on a Dell Chromebook 11?
[23:26] <daftykins> ssfdre38: drop the www. ; add yourself to the group 'www-data' then own the docroot as www-data:www-data and restart apache
[23:26] <daftykins> ssfdre38: and for the love of Tux, use http://paste.ubuntu.com or pipe commands into "pastebinit" in future, full desktop screenshots of text are horrific
[23:31] <tsapii> daftykins: i'm back. it appears that windows cannot boot anymore because it goes back into chkdsk.exe which got stuck at 10% forever
[23:31] <daftykins> live session it is then
[23:31] <tsapii> so now i've booted to the live session, yes
[23:34] <notarobot039> hi
[23:34] <daftykins> lo
[23:34] <tsapii> daftykins: so what would these commands be, then?
[23:35] <daftykins> sudo apt update && sudo apt install smartmontools pastebinit && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit
[23:35] <notarobot039> question: can someone please direct me to a hardware channel or one that can answer a question regarding about why a battery would discharge on a portable personal computer while it is turned off.
[23:35] <tsapii> let's see
[23:35] <Ben64> notarobot039: ##hardware
[23:36] <daftykins> notarobot039: that's a sign the cells are old and failed, time to buy a new one.
[23:36] <notarobot039> darius93: reply: the computer is new.
[23:37] <zykotick9> nottrobin: ##hardware is a channel on freenode
[23:37] <tsapii> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14377758/
[23:37] <tsapii> zykotick9: he left already
[23:38] <zykotick9> tsapii: doh.  i have all the join/part stuff hidden...  thanks.
[23:39] <daftykins> tsapii: looks like someone's been dropping that thing :P no issues though, purely file system related by the sounds of it.
[23:40] <tsapii> well it has been spilt drink on. i suppose that's equivalent
[23:40]  * zykotick9 notes he is also an ass, and has guest* set to ignore...  nick is your friend.
[23:41] <tsapii> anyway, if chkdsk.exe cannot complete, then the partition must be corrected by something else
[23:42] <daftykins> tsapii: the whole laptop? yeah i'd put the disk in another system and chkdsk it there ; no other program is going to help
[23:42] <tsapii> hmm i came to this while googling: http://askubuntu.com/questions/47700/fix-corrupt-ntfs-partition-without-windows
[23:42] <tsapii> the case seems mostly the same
[23:43] <OerHeks> i would use the ultimateboot-cd *if* i had no windows
[23:43] <tsapii> well with the exception that the smart diagnostics say the disk is fine
[23:43] <daftykins> tsapii: boot Windows install media, shift+F10 to run a command prompt, then chkdsk it from there... however this topic will need to be moved to ##windows since it's not appropriate here
[23:43] <OerHeks> opensource, legal, and enough bios mbr file tools to choose from
[23:44] <tsapii> OerHeks: i'll keep that in mind
[23:44] <tsapii> daftykins: i don't have any windows install media at hand currently. i'll give this ntfsfix a try in case something spectacular happens
[23:44] <daftykins> no, that's a really BAD idea
[23:45] <tsapii> why so?
[23:45] <daftykins> tsapii: just download one, it's freely available to grab a boot CD.
[23:45] <tsapii> well then. i'm going to need something to install it to
[23:45] <daftykins> because those utils may not have been worked on recently enough to factor in windows 8 and 10's changes to how things work
[23:45] <tsapii> hmm.
[23:45] <daftykins> no as i said above you can chkdsk it solely from the preinstallation environment
[23:46] <OerHeks> oh, nice, better way
[23:46] <tsapii> what does the preinstallation environment mean here?
[23:47] <daftykins> the thing you're looking at when you boot win7, 8 or 10 install media
[23:47] <daftykins> as i say cmd can be run from inside it
[23:48] <lmw> ctrl+f10
[23:48] <daftykins> shift i think
[23:48] <lmw> yes, correct
[23:48] <lmw> thanks
[23:48] <tsapii> but i do not have the install media at hand
[23:48] <multimedia> Hey. Problem statement: I have 4GB of RAM, but 32-bit Ubuntu 14.04 only detects 3GB. PEA is supposed to be enabled by default, and I've even added some extras to FORCE it...  http://pastebin.com/wB3r6vrx
[23:48] <daftykins> tsapii: yeah so get it, like i said it's freely obtainable...
[23:48] <tsapii> ah, alright
[23:48] <lmw> multimedia: try #ubuntu
[23:49] <tsapii> sorry, i misunderstood
[23:49] <shumno> Hi
[23:49] <multimedia> lmw: I am in ubuntu :)
[23:49] <akik> tsapii: you can enable the windows boot menu with bcdedit
[23:49] <lmw> multimedia: oops, didn't seen, thanks, haha
[23:49] <multimedia> lmw: np )
[23:49] <akik> tsapii: "bcdedit /set {bootmgr} DisplayBootMenu true"
[23:49] <shumno> Hello guys
[23:49] <tsapii> hm
[23:50] <k1l> multimedia: is the video card using some ram?
[23:50] <shumno> Welcome auronandace2
[23:50] <shumno> welcome cloner93
[23:50] <cloner93> hi
[23:50] <daftykins> akik: that's not even the situation - it's Windows only right now
[23:50] <daftykins> also bcdedit seems to have claimed many folks installations :P
[23:51] <akik> daftykins: tsapii by enabling the boot menu you gain access to the same preinstallation environment without having to use the install dvd
[23:51] <k1l> multimedia: and since kernel 3.16 there is no -pae kernel package, because all kernel have pae then. you cant boot a non-pae system anymore.
[23:51] <multimedia> k1l: good thought, but 1G OF RAM? It has like a 1MB or 8MB option IIRC, -- anyway I'm using standalone graphics anyway
[23:51] <daftykins> akik: but the fs is creamed, so it's not worth risking
[23:52] <OerHeks> multimedia, if your motherboard supports up to 4 gb, your missing space is occupied by your videocardmem/controllercache/processorcache.
[23:52] <multimedia> k1l: how could I confirm this via OS?
[23:52] <daftykins> multimedia: why did you install 32-bit? that makes no sense on such a system in 2016.
[23:53] <akik> tsapii: you said that you're able to boot windows?
[23:53] <multimedia> daftykins: it's not a 64-bit processor:  model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
[23:53] <multimedia> address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
[23:53] <daftykins> no, akik
[23:54] <tsapii> akik: no, windows goes into chkdsk which appears to hang forever
[23:54] <daftykins> Pentium 4 ugh :( i'd have buried that years ago
[23:56] <OpenSorce> Guys I'm trying to get aircrack (or the equivalent) working on a live usb so I can connect at work (yes I have permission they just don't know the ssid) is it no longer in the repositories?
[23:57] <tsapii> it seems that i can edit the windows registry to disable the pending chkdsk
[23:57] <k1l> !info aircrack-ng
[23:57] <tsapii> though i'm not sure if it's anyhow sensible to boot a system that chkdsk was interrupted on
[23:57] <multimedia> k1l: lspci confirms ,VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Caicos [Radeon HD 6450/7450/8450, Memory at c0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[23:57] <daftykins> tsapii: that's obviously not a solution
[23:57] <tsapii> probably not
[23:58] <multimedia> afaik, that card uses dedicated memory; even if not, 256M doesn't account for 1GB
[23:58] <tsapii> i need to get the installation media somewhere
[23:58] <daftykins> tsapii: take this to ##windows now - it's clearly not ubuntu support
[23:58] <tsapii> alright. sorry for going off-topic