[01:49] <EriC^^> hi daftykins
[01:49] <daftykins> heya o/ HNY :D
[01:50] <EriC^^> thanks, you too! :D
[01:50] <daftykins> ^_^
[01:53] <EriC^^> man it's so cold here
[01:53] <daftykins> (
[01:53] <daftykins> * :( how bad?
[01:53] <EriC^^> hmm phone says 11'c
[01:54] <daftykins> ouch! inside? never gets that bad here, i find it pretty rough at 15 deg C in my lounge
[01:54] <EriC^^> the water is unbearably cold
[01:55] <EriC^^> like you feel your fingers are about to lose sense and fall off or something
[01:55] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Out; This year we are going with propane heat .. kinda being on the conservative side with that expense .
[01:56] <daftykins> ah har
[01:58] <Bashing-om> I be a warm blooded Southern boy, maybe going to be a long cold winter . But I am tough .. come spring, I will still be here .
[02:03] <EriC^^> it's so cold i dont even feel like moving my hand to get a cigarette and smoke
[02:04] <EriC^^> i will do that though
[02:06] <OerHeks> then you will need something on your feet, or your head, to keep warm.
[02:09] <Bashing-om> Head ! ones looses 70% of the body heat through the head .
[02:17] <OerHeks> true, hat on, warm feet. and fingers, but that might be more an issue of sitting still 2 hrs+
[02:24] <Bashing-om> Uh Huh .. I sit here - with my box beside me exhausting onto my feet .. Lemme tell yall .. my legs are wrapped up !
[02:25] <OerHeks> sit with your feet in a carton box, with newspapers
[02:25] <OerHeks> :-D
[02:26] <Bashing-om> Uhhhh ! That idea I like !
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[10:06] <lordievader> Good morning.
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[19:44] <daftykins> http://apt.tvheadend.org/release/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/
[19:45] <daftykins> that guy trying to use this repo, shouldn't those files be non-empty? ;)
[19:46] <TJ-> it means there are no packages published for Trusty
[19:46] <daftykins> *nod*
[19:46] <daftykins> i don't think tvheadend has had a 'release' :D
[19:49] <TJ-> looks like Vivid is the first that has packages
[22:32] <daftykins> i find i can really spot the IRC Linux teens a mile away :P
[22:34] <TJ-> i don't think it is limited to teens; there's plenty of I-know-better types everywhere, and you spot them because you can see how basly they messed it up before asking questions
[22:36] <daftykins> hehe
[22:36] <daftykins> i dunno the classic 'whatever' is definitely teen like :>
[22:36] <TJ-> arrogant dismissive you mean? That to me indicates they're definitely insecure
[22:37] <Bashing-om> What gets me, they come in here asking for help, 3 people give same advise, and still want to be argumentive about their "thoughts" .
[22:37] <OerHeks> Digital ocean, those images are tweaked.
[22:38] <daftykins> hehe, yeah
[22:38] <daftykins> i've played with the digital ocean VPSs, they're fine - but a new user won't know what to do when emailed a root login
[22:39] <daftykins> my first steps are creating a basic user to mimic the ubuntu setup, then disable root SSH login - most won't know about that i guess
[22:44] <TJ-> this user talking about the 'wrong' glibc was in the other day; reckoned it wasn't installed already, wouldn't listen to anything
[22:45] <daftykins> hehe
[22:45] <daftykins> yeah i was under the impression nothing works once you trash that?
[22:50] <TJ-> that's it; all the core tools are linked to it. so if you install a version with different symbols/versioning you're asking for problems
[22:50] <TJ-> glibc is the source package; libc6 is the installed binaries
[22:50] <TJ-> !info libc6
[22:50] <ubot5`> libc6 (source: glibc): GNU C Library: Shared libraries. In component main, is required. Version 2.21-0ubuntu4 (vivid), package size 3997 kB, installed size 9423 kB
[22:51] <TJ-> shame that doesn't show the extended description:
[22:51] <TJ-> Description-en: GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[22:51] <TJ->  Contains the standard libraries that are used by nearly all programs on
[22:51] <TJ->  the system. This package includes shared versions of the standard C library
[22:51] <TJ->  and the standard math library, as well as many others.
[22:52] <TJ-> even different build-time configuration options can break exectuables in very interesting ways; so installing from a different source is a recipe for disaster
[22:53] <daftykins> definitely an exotic act on that users' behalf :)
[22:53] <daftykins> probably quite telling that you got ignored
[22:56] <TJ-> the other day it didn't seem to compute that source: glibc == libc6 binary package - he kept on complaining that 'glibc' wasn't installed despite dpkg -l showing it was
[23:23] <pauljw> hi everyone
[23:24] <daftykins> wb!
[23:25] <pauljw> ty
[23:32]  * daftykins wonders why the users are more nuts than usual
[23:33] <pauljw> :)
[23:33] <rww> not even a full moon
[23:34] <TJ-> its all that horse penis :D  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35218100
[23:36] <TJ-> so 1/3 of the country's economic production comes to a halt due to that! We get off light with these users :)
[23:37] <pauljw> oh boy, more from the perpetually offended...
[23:38] <daftykins> :D
[23:38] <daftykins> why more country leaders don't chime in and tell their population to grow up, i don't know
[23:39] <pauljw> there doesn't seem to be a collective spine among them anymore
[23:39] <TJ-> those slavic/eastern/hybrid former soviet states are very much alike in that respect.
[23:39] <pauljw> yep