[00:00] <knome> hmmh
[00:00] <knome> now it is
[00:00] <knome> without changes...
[00:05] <amjjawad> knome, I sent an email to both ToriOS team and Ubuntu GNOME team. If anyone wishes to follow the steps and take it from there, they should be aware of howto do that. If not, I'm sorry if I wasted your time but that was very important information for me. Many thanks and good luck with 16.04 :)
[00:07] <pleia2> knome: back from lunch
[00:07] <pleia2> knome: does it need some kind of launchpad lib installed?
[00:07] <pleia2> configuring postfix now
[00:07] <knome> pleia2, no... it just didn't work, then it did
[00:07] <knome> o.o
[00:08] <pleia2> knome: oh good, magic
[00:08] <pleia2> knome: you have sendmail command now
[00:08] <knome> cool
[00:08] <knome> i think my gmail is moving the mail to spam
[00:08] <knome> maybe bluesabre can tell if it works :P
[00:08] <knome> he gets daily mails
[00:09] <pleia2> heh :)
[00:09] <pleia2> it may dump them in spam because dns isn't set up yet
[00:09] <pleia2> (just has some default linode thing)
[00:11] <knome> no, i mean it has been doing that for weeks :P
[00:11] <pleia2> it happens
[00:11] <knome> yeah...
[00:11] <knome> and i don't even care! :P
[00:12] <pleia2> hah
[09:46] <flocculant> never noticed this before, but I don't sit and watch make making ... but "awk: cmd. line:1: (FILENAME=- FNR=1) fatal: division by zero attempted../scripts/translate.sh: 57: [: Illegal number: "  when building docs
[10:11] <knome> heh
[10:26] <flocculant> I assume that means nothing to care about 
[15:20] <knome> flocculant, i'll make sure to look at it at some point
[15:41] <flocculant> aah ok - didn't know what heh meant there :)
[15:44] <knome> well it doesn't seem like it's a huge issue
[15:48] <flocculant> I assume not, means nothing to me - so I said I saw it
[15:48] <flocculant> I can just as easily ignore these things in the future - no idea what people want there 
[15:49] <knome> as long as it doesn't stop stuff from building (which you can notice), any warnings or errors should mean nothing
[15:49] <knome> i mean, you will *always* get the warnings for missing files for C, because they will always be missing
[15:50] <flocculant> ok - I can ignore it all now then - you know pdf fails 
[15:50] <knome> yep
[15:51] <flocculant> back off now - back in the week as normal time resumes :)
[15:56] <knome> hf
[22:53] <knome> bluesabre, Noskcaj_: are you using https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce412.html actively?
[22:58] <bluesabre> knome: it is a very useful tool
[22:58] <bluesabre> when I am doing uploads, I do refer to it
[23:03] <knome> ok, fair enough
[23:06] <knome> considering http://xubuntu.org/dev/ is very high level page (eg. not linking to specific information), where do you think it would be good to link to that page?
[23:10] <knome> actually i will move stuff around more, but still the question remains..
[23:11] <bluesabre> maybe from the how to contribute... have /dev as a summary with links to more detailed or valuable links
[23:11] <knome> well i don't know
[23:11] <knome> that's kind of meh, because the website still isn't targeted at newbies
[23:12] <bluesabre> we already have http://xubuntu.org/dev/ it makes sense to just have another section in there for our dev tools
[23:13] <knome> but i disagree; it's still very high-level information, pointing people to where the real information is
[23:13] <knome> i'll try to figure out something
[23:13] <knome> but meh, this is still a mess :(
[23:14] <bluesabre> :(
[23:22] <knome> houston, we have a problem
[23:22] <Unit193> Well, all 3 of us know where it is, does it need to be there at all?
[23:22] <knome> otoh, i would like to make the communication methods really clear
[23:22] <knome> otoh, i would like to make it hard to reach to avoid people asking support questions on the devel list and irc channel
[23:23] <knome> ok, i think this is better now:
[23:23] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/contribute/
[23:24] <knome> this is the "Get Involved" stuff, which explains the basic stuff about contributing, lists the subteams and some activities everybody can do
[23:24] <knome> it also refers to...
[23:24] <knome> http://xubuntu.org/dev/
[23:24] <knome> which points to the tracker, all the communication methods and the developer documentation (so far around the wiki, but will be a single link to the contributor documentation)
[23:25] <knome> any complaints?
[23:25] <knome> well i have one :P
[23:26] <knome> added a mention of the meetings to the first one
[23:42] <knome> bbl