[00:34] <nolsen> ._. Anyone else getting segmentation fault crashes from plasma shell?
[00:34] <nolsen> I don't even have a taskbar right now.
[00:35] <nolsen> and running plasmashell doesn't even bring it back properly.
[00:35] <nolsen> Windows 10 taskbar in a nutshell basically.
[00:38] <valorie> nolsen: not for a year or so -- what version of kubuntu are you running?
[00:39] <nolsen> valorie: 15..10
[00:39] <nolsen> 15.10
[00:39] <valorie> hmmm
[00:39] <valorie> are you up-to-date?
[00:39] <nolsen> Yes.
[00:39] <nolsen> Unless the update checker is being lazy
[00:39] <valorie> most strange
[00:40] <nolsen> I checked apt-get upgrade myself, it's up to date.
[00:40] <valorie> you can always do `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade`
[00:40] <valorie> I have backports too however
[00:41] <valorie> and have plasmashell 5.4.3
[00:41] <nolsen> 5.4.2
[00:41] <nolsen> You have cutting edge?
[00:42] <nolsen> erm, development.
[00:42] <nolsen> Or is 5.4.3 stable?
[00:42] <valorie> not really, that's been out for a couple of months I think
[00:43] <valorie> my travel notebook I have on 16.04 already, for testing
[00:43] <valorie> so far, so good
[00:43] <valorie> yes, I've had no crashes for months
[00:43] <nolsen> Is it any better than 15.10?
[00:43] <valorie> well, in 15.10 I was running neon, so back then I really was bleeding edge
[00:44] <valorie> oops, got my versions mixed
[00:44] <valorie> in 15.04 I was doing that
[00:45] <valorie> I don't recall, but I almost always update to the latest, especially bugfix ones
[00:46] <nolsen> latest qt version is 5.4.2 right?
[00:46] <nolsen> kinfocenter just segfaulted xD
[00:50] <nolsen> valorie: https://paste.kde.org/pehp3uubv/acov8m/raw
[00:51] <valorie> !info qt
[00:51] <valorie> pish, what is the package called
[00:51] <valorie> nolsen: I'm not a coder
[00:51] <valorie> just a tester
[01:01] <nolsen> valorie: What backports you're using?
[01:01] <nolsen> Going to update plasmashell to 5.5
[01:03] <nolsen> or something newer than mine.
[01:04] <valorie> nolsen: we don't have 5.5 done yet
[01:04] <valorie> 5.5.2 is nearly done, but 5.5.3 is released Tuesday
[01:04] <valorie> so we'll see
[01:05] <valorie> between holidays and deaths in devel families, we've gotten a bit behind
[01:13] <nolsen> !info qt5
[01:36] <Guest64417> hello all having a issue with getting virtualbox to run. I can start the setup but I get a error when trying to start the actual vm its self
[01:38] <Guest64417> getting a error that tells me to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup    but it fails when ran with sudo
[02:11] <Fritigern> Guest64417: Did you reboot yet?
[02:35] <reborn> how is stable for kubuntu 15.10?
[02:38] <reborn> ??
[03:18] <nolsen> reborn: It's pretty stable in my opinion.
[03:18] <nolsen> I'm even running the latest kernel version and no crashes.
[03:18] <nolsen> and using backports seemed to make the segfaults go away so far.
[03:21] <nolsen> Actually, I'm one version behind on the kernel. 4.4.0-040400rc7-generic is what I'm currently using.
[03:39] <Canon> anyone using VB 5.0
[03:39] <Canon> Vbox
[03:39] <Canon> brb
[04:01] <Canon> anyone using Vbox
[04:38] <nolsen> My graphics card is hating the xorg server ati driver ;_;
[04:42] <LogicalDash> How do I change the primary monitor of the login screen?
[08:56] <X9nLinux9> Can Kubuntu be used on a newer Mac as a start up system from a USB drive?  Anybody know how to configure that if so?
[09:13] <X9nLinux9> Anybody running Kubuntu on a Mac here?
[09:19] <media> hey
[09:26] <valorie> X9nLinux9: I think what works is finding one of the images for mac, and then installing kubuntu-desktop on top of that
[09:26] <valorie> !mac
[09:27] <valorie> ubottu, always so helpful
[09:31] <valorie> X9nLinux9: such as ubuntu-mate: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/wily/release/
[09:35] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:38] <valorie> X9nLinux9: I also found http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[09:40] <valorie> eh, better than my first advice is to just get the server and add kubuntu-desktop: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/wily/release/
[10:16] <X9nLinux9> Valorie, are you starting up on Kubuntu?
[10:19] <valorie> X9nLinux9: ? I'm not sure what you mean
[10:19] <valorie> I've been using kubuntu for around 8 years I guess
[10:19] <valorie> but never on a mac
[10:20] <X9nLinux9> What I mean is... at one time I could start up with Linux on a Mac.  I tried to startup with Kubuntu on a new Mac recently and cannot get it to do so
[10:21] <X9nLinux9> even used a DVD that had it on and would run it from the DVD... but it won't install in a way that allows me to use it as the start up system directly from a USB drive
[10:23] <valorie> did you read my replies above?
[10:23] <valorie> start by installing the image made for mac for server
[10:23] <valorie> and then install kubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <valorie> and you'll have kubuntu, essentially
[10:24] <X9nLinux9> I have it on a working DVD.
[10:24] <valorie> we no longer spin Kubuntu-mac ISO images
[10:24] <valorie> we don't have the people or the time
[10:24] <X9nLinux9> What I'm looking for is to have it as a working Startup system
[10:25] <valorie> and I just told you how to do that
[10:25] <valorie> get the server and add kubuntu-desktop: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/wily/release/
[10:26] <X9nLinux9> Why would a DVD work as a startup and then not work when moved to a USB drive?
[10:27] <X9nLinux9> I'll give that a try.
[10:27] <valorie> well, it's always good to verify the image
[10:27] <valorie> !md5
[10:28] <X9nLinux9> Ok.  Will try that.  Thanks
[10:28] <valorie> this is why I always torrent the ISOs -- ktorrent at least verifies before finishing
[10:28] <valorie> so I know all my ISOs (I seed all the *buntus) are A-OK
[10:29] <valorie> moving to a USB might have left out some vital bits at the beginning or so
[10:34] <X9nLinux9> Thanks for the info Valorie
[10:35] <mparillo> I believe zsync verfies the ISO also; very good if you are frequently using the daily builds.
[10:35] <valorie> best of luck, X9nLinux9
[10:35] <valorie> mparillo: I have to keep re-learning how to use zsync
[10:56] <lordievader> valorie: Isn't checking inherit to the torrenting protocol, since chunks can arrive out of order.
[11:28] <rom1504> that's not the reason why you check
[11:29] <rom1504> the torrent contains the hashes, you check peers send you the correct pieces
[12:26] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm having trouble connecting to the vpn using kubuntu 15.10....I can't access anything inside the vpn, dispite it connects  without errors
[12:27] <rom1504> m_tadeu: when you ask a question, you have to provide *context*, "the vpn" assumes a context nobody here but you knows about
[12:30] <m_tadeu> I'm using openconnect to reach my comapny's network
[12:30] <m_tadeu> so I created a vpn connection in nwtwork manager to do so
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:34] <rom1504> m_tadeu: what does route -n says ?
[12:34] <lordievader> m_tadeu: Is that ipsec, openvpn? Or is openconnect something else altogether?
[12:36] <rom1504> ah yeah I read openvpn
[12:40] <m_tadeu> lordievader: openconnect is the opensource couterpart of cisco anyconnect....don't know the specifics of it
[12:40] <rom1504> me neither
[12:44] <lordievader> Hmm, same here, I'm afraid.
[12:59] <m_tadeu> here's a before  and after vpn connection 'route -n'  http://pastebin.com/n0sSDVHF
[13:04] <lordievader> Line 11 is strange to me...
[13:05] <lordievader> Line 11 should probably have a gateway to 10.175.192.1 or whatever the vpn gateway is.
[13:22] <ntz> hello
[13:23] <BluesKaj> hey ntz
[13:23] <ntz> I have weird terrible problem with kubuntu™ .... when I have something in $HOME/.kde4/Autostart, it actually starts that thing 4 times .... no idea why
[13:23] <ntz> on account login
[13:23] <ntz> hello BluesKaj
[13:23] <ntz> never ever experienced this behaviour elswhere
[13:27] <lordievader> ntz: What version of Kubuntu are you running?
[13:28] <ntz> 14.04.3, up-to-date
[13:33] <BluesKaj> ntz:  you haven't attempted to install plasma 5 I hope ?
[13:36] <ntz> afaik no, problem is, that it's the workstation of my boss - he asked me if I can fix it so generally said, I didn't install anything there
[13:37] <ntz> I fixed 10 other issues but only this one - kde related - still persists
[13:37] <ntz> personally I am using kde since 2.x and never experienced this behaviour
[13:38] <lordievader> ntz: Does system settings -> autostart (not sure where that was) list it four times?
[13:38] <ntz> no, that's weird ... as well as it is placed there once and does it like that for both application and script
[13:39] <ntz> eg I want to run existing "foo" app there .... it starts it 4 times both ways - from script and as an app
[14:01] <BluesKaj> ntz, dunno if you read about this bugfix ppa that was advertized back in november, check to see if it applies to your issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ntz: did you check out the backports ppa ?  https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports
[15:22] <BluesKaj> I just added the ppa to my sources.list on 14.04 and there were a lot of upgrades, forgot to check the number, altho my install didn't have any issues previous to the upgrade.
[18:25] <carloilpunk> salve
[18:27] <marco-parillo> Regina
[19:00] <FelixFire619> can i install kubuntu side by side with win 7 via mounting the iso in windows?
[19:12] <lordievader> No, you really need to boot to a live-cd/usb.
[19:25] <anabain> Is it possible to upgrade the installer before trying to install kubuntu?
[19:30] <genii> anabain: You can install things into a running liveCD, yes.
[19:30] <vip> hi ho, do you use ark from right menu in dolphin? how to create some shortcuts, to right-click on folder and create 7z, zip, or other archive?
[19:35] <FelixFire619> ok thanks, (I can make a kubuntu usb with rufus)
[19:40] <anabain> genii, can you tell me why I'm not getting the primary/logical option when partitioning during a kubuntu 15.10 install?
[19:44] <BluesKaj> anabain:  use manual partitioning for those options
[22:45] <drmanhattan> hello
[23:45] <nfk|laptop> any recommendations for multi-system time tracking solution?