=== tyhicks` is now known as tyhicks === Guest532 is now known as ahoneybun === maclin1 is now known as maclin === davmor2_ho-ho-ho is now known as davmor2 === xnox_2016 is now known as xnox === maclin1 is now known as maclin === dosaboy_ is now known as dosaboy [16:39] hello [16:39] #startmeeting [16:39] Meeting started Mon Jan 4 16:39:32 2016 UTC. The chair is tyhicks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [16:39] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [16:39] The meeting agenda can be found at: [16:39] [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/Meeting [16:39] [TOPIC] Announcements === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Announcements [16:39] Bryan Quigley (gQuigs) provided a debdiff for trusty for cups (LP: #1505328) [16:39] Launchpad bug 1505328 in cups (Ubuntu Trusty) "Cups SSL is vulnerable to POODLE" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505328 [16:39] Stefan Bader (smb) provided debdiffs for precise-wily for xen [16:40] Louis Bouchard (caribou) provided debdiffs for trusty-wily for sosreport (LP: #1525271) [16:40] Launchpad bug 1525271 in sosreport (Ubuntu Wily) "CVE-2015-7529 needs to be backported to supported releases" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1525271 [16:40] Thank you for your assistance in keeping Ubuntu users secure! :) [16:40] [TOPIC] Weekly stand-up report === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Weekly stand-up report [16:40] mdeslaur: you're up [16:40] \o [16:40] I'm on triage this week [16:41] I'm currently working on the samba updates [16:41] I plan on releasing those probably this week [16:41] and I have some other updates in the security team proposed ppa that need testing [16:41] and I'll see if I can pick something else from the list after that [16:41] that's pretty much it from me, sbeattie? [16:42] I don't think he's in yet so I'll go [16:42] I'm in the community role this week [16:42] I have a lot of email catchup to do from the holidays (as I'm sure we all do) [16:43] ctrl-a, del [16:43] after that, I plan on helping jjohansen with the AppArmor stacking work [16:43] :) [16:44] I'd also like to spend a little bit of time looking at rngd and if it works to seed /dev/random with the hwrng on the beagle bone black [16:44] well right up until you get to that third email ... [16:44] jjohansen: you're up [16:45] I will be looking at (drowning in) the email backlog as well [16:46] besides that it doing AppArmor stacking work [16:46] well and I guess syncing up with sbeattie and the kteam on where the kernel is [16:46] s/kernel/kernel workflow/ [16:47] that is it for me sarnold you are up [16:47] I'm on bug triage this week [16:47] also digging my way out of email [16:48] will continue the dpdk mir this week, aiming to finish it soon [16:48] will help out with apparmor kernel patch review once that's finished [16:48] and learn how to speak in complete sentences next week [16:49] chrisccoulson? [16:49] jjohansen: do we have any pending apparmor kernel patch reviews to be done? [16:49] I've got a thunderbird update to do this week. And it looks like Oxide and Chromium too [16:49] oh forgot to mention. because of my two-week holiday, I completely forgot how debian packaging works. [16:49] I thought I went through all pending patches in the last working week of 2015 [16:49] tyhicks: no, I think you covered it all [16:49] sarnold: fyi ^ [16:49] oh hooray :) [16:50] of course since sarnold has so much fun with them ... [16:50] chrisccoulson: sorry, go ahead :) [16:50] Other than that, I'll be working through my e-mail backlog (well, ctrl+a, del) and doing some reviews [16:50] I think that's me done [16:51] chrisccoulson: lots of updates :) [16:52] mdeslaur: impressive that you can remember how debian packaging works across the weekends [16:52] [TOPIC] Highlighted packages === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Highlighted packages [16:52] The Ubuntu Security team will highlight some community-supported packages that might be good candidates for updating and or triaging. If you would like to help Ubuntu and not sure where to start, this is a great way to do so. [16:52] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures for details and if you have any questions, feel free to ask in #ubuntu-security. To find out other ways of helping out, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/GettingInvolved. [16:52] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/jgit.html [16:52] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/openjpa.html [16:52] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gcc-h8300-hms.html [16:52] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/gcc-4.8-ppc64el-cross.html [16:52] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/pkg/doctrine.html [16:52] [TOPIC] Miscellaneous and Questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Miscellaneous and Questions [16:52] Does anyone have any other questions or items to discuss? [16:53] just because you mentioned highlighted packages... maybe somebody could take a look at bug 1528682? I saw it in the sponsoring queue today [16:53] bug 1528682 in ffmpeg (Ubuntu) "FFmpeg security fixes December 2015 II" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1528682 [16:54] but it's not a real discussion item... :) [16:55] dholbach: thanks - I'll have a look this week as part of the community role rotation that I'm on [16:55] awesome - thanks [16:55] mdeslaur, jjohansen, sarnold, ChrisCoulson: Thanks! [16:55] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [16:55] Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 16:55:51 2016 UTC. [16:55] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-01-04-16.39.moin.txt [16:55] thanks tyhicks [16:57] thanks tyhicks [16:58] thanks tyhicks! [18:54] o/ [18:56] happy new year all! [18:56] hi :) [18:58] * stgraber waves [19:03] !dmb-ping [19:03] cyphermox, infinity, Laney, micahg, xnox, bdmurray, stgraber: DMB ping [19:03] o/ [19:05] who`s turn to chair? [19:05] me I think [19:06] #startmeeting DMB meeting [19:06] Meeting started Mon Jan 4 19:06:24 2016 UTC. The chair is micahg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [19:06] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: [19:06] Welcome to the DMB meeting [19:07] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items [19:07] #subtopic DMB members who didn't consent to fill in feedback to Noskcaj [19:07] I'm guessing we didn't do this again? [19:08] carried [19:08] #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications [19:09] #subtopic TimoJyrinki / ubuntu-qt-packages [19:09] I think this just needs a quick vote, right? [19:10] yeah [19:10] yup [19:10] and some paperwork as I believe we have the set but no team, I'll take care of that part [19:10] ok [19:11] #voters micahg stgraber cyphermox_ bdmurray [19:11] Current voters: bdmurray cyphermox_ micahg stgraber [19:12] Mirv -> +1 (IMHO this could have been handled without the extra round [19:12] trip) [19:12] #vote Please vote to grant TimoJyrinki rights to the ubuntu-qt-packages packageset [19:12] Please vote on: Please vote to grant TimoJyrinki rights to the ubuntu-qt-packages packageset [19:12] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:12] that's from Laney ^ [19:12] +1 [19:12] +1 received from stgraber [19:12] +1 [19:12] +1 received from micahg [19:12] +1 [19:12] +1 received from bdmurray [19:12] +1 [19:12] +1 received from cyphermox_ [19:13] #endvote [19:13] Voting ended on: Please vote to grant TimoJyrinki rights to the ubuntu-qt-packages packageset [19:13] Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:13] Motion carried [19:13] that's +5 actually, so that passes [19:13] stgraber: you ok with the action items around that [19:13] yeah, I'll take care of it [19:14] Derp. I'll learn when this meeting is some day. [19:14] #action stgraber to create team for ubuntu-qt-packages and add timo-jyrinki to it [19:14] ACTION: stgraber to create team for ubuntu-qt-packages and add timo-jyrinki to it [19:14] #voters infinity [19:14] Current voters: bdmurray cyphermox_ infinity micahg stgraber [19:15] welcome infinity [19:16] I think ginggs is next on the agenda [19:16] * xnox is here, sorry i'm late [19:16] #topic Ubuntu Core Developer Application === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: Ubuntu Core Developer Application [19:16] #voters xnox [19:16] Current voters: bdmurray cyphermox_ infinity micahg stgraber xnox [19:16] #subtopic Graham Inggs [19:16] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrahamInggs/CoreDevApplication [19:17] ginggs: can you introduce yourself please [19:18] hi, I'm Graham Inggs, I've been a MOTU for 2 years and would like to become a core-dev [19:20] I see a lot of uploads, but I find it a little hard to see what work you did that was in main specifically, could you help by pointing us at some things you`re particularly proud of? [19:21] cyphermox_, well, looking at http://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsoree=Graham+Inggs&sponsoree_search=name it seem like all the things that were sponsored in 2014 & 2015 were for main, as all other universe uploads are just in launchpad related packages. [19:21] in main there have been some nvidia driver uploads (those are restricted, actually) [19:22] recently I was invovled with the suitesparse transition [19:22] xnox: not on my own computer, so I`m without my bookmarks :P [19:22] cyphermox_, ah =) ok, np. =) still chatting is more personal =) [19:23] then there have been the occasional syncs from debian [19:24] ginggs, after uploading a package into ubuntu, do you do any follow-ups after that? [19:25] i remain subscribed to the bugs and often subscribe to all bugs for those packages [19:25] i also check that the packages build everywhere they are supposed to and migrate from proposed [19:26] ginggs: I don't think I have any questions, per se, about your technical skill. More just a question of what you intend to do with permissions to the entire archive. [19:26] ginggs: Specific main packages you care about, more involvement in transitions, etc. [19:26] (ie: don't be a core-dev unless you need to be) [19:28] I would probably upload Nvidia drivers from time to time, but I will co-ordinate with tseliot on those, but if there is a fix I won't always have to wait on him [19:29] micahg: actually, I won't be able to carry that action until the CC adds me back to the TB :) [19:29] ginggs, would you at all have any time to be a sponsor, and/or review things to be sponsored? http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/index.html [19:29] stgraber, lolz =) [19:29] micahg: got everything else done but can't actually add the archive ACL as that requires to be a TB member [19:29] was wondering why LP didn't like me and was giving me odd 401s for some stuff, that'd be why [19:29] Yes, I have sponsored a few packages already https://ubuntu-dev.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu-sponsorships.cgi?render=html&sponsor=Graham+Inggs&sponsor_search=name&sponsoree=&sponsoree_search=name [19:29] stgraber: right, saw the mail on that earlier [19:30] obviously I haven't been able to sponsor any main packages, but being a core-dev would allow me to [19:30] nice =) [19:33] ginggs: Right, so that's where it hinges for me. An application for status is pointless, an application because you intend to do core-devy things is great, we need more people doing generally awesome general things. [19:34] ginggs: If you're all about helping people with review/sponsorship (emphasis on the REVIEW part), and mangling other main packages here and there, I'm happy with it. [19:37] i'm very particular about testing before sponsoring [19:38] micahg: elmo was kind enough to run edit-acl for me, so that's my action taken care of [19:38] stgraber: cool, thanks [19:38] ginggs: have you worked with the -proposed pocket migration to the release pocket in the devel release at all? [19:39] i'm familiar with this page: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html [19:40] have you ever helped a package migrate to the release pocket? [19:40] and i know to check for autopkgtest failures [19:40] and reverse-depends [19:40] is that what you mean? [19:41] yes, partially, have you actually fixed any issues that have come about due to an autopkgtest failure to help a package migrate? [19:41] yes [19:42] I believe I've seen you work on transitions, so I won't ask about those [19:42] great [19:42] I think that's it for questions [19:43] #vote Please vote on ginggs becoming core-dev [19:43] Please vote on: Please vote on ginggs becoming core-dev [19:43] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [19:44] +1 [19:44] +1 received from cyphermox_ [19:44] +1 [19:44] +1 received from bdmurray [19:44] +1 [19:44] +1 received from stgraber [19:46] +1 [19:46] +1 received from micahg [19:46] +1 [19:46] +1 received from xnox [19:46] and a +1 from Laney in absentia [19:46] #endvote [19:46] Voting ended on: Please vote on ginggs becoming core-dev [19:46] Votes for:6 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [19:46] Motion carried [19:46] ginggs: congrats [19:46] I`m going to have to go soon [19:47] thanks, all! [19:47] congratz ginggs [19:47] congrats ginggs [19:47] cyphermox_: we still have quorum without you [19:47] yeah, just saying in advance. [19:48] I don't see psusi around [19:48] #topic MOTU applications === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: MOTU applications [19:48] #subtopic Gianfranco Costamagna [19:48] #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GianfrancoCostamagna/MOTUApplication [19:49] LocutusOfBorg1: could you introduce yourself please [19:50] Hi, I'm Gianfranco Costamagna, I'm Debian Developer since 5 months, and I have been a DM since 2012 or 2013. I became a DD since I like to maintain my packages there, and sync on Ubuntu, but I always wanted to be an Ubuntu Developer (I applied for NM because somebody told me it was easier to became an Ubuntu starting from being a DD) [19:51] I worked a lot on merges, and on forwarding patches to Debian (you will see some syncs, because I uploaded the ubuntu delta on Debian and synced soonafter the accept) [19:51] s/a lot/on a lot [19:52] my interests are keeping packages in sync, or at least up-to-date with Debian (this includes looking at merges or doing them myself) [19:52] (e.g. I opened a gambas3 merge a few seconds ago, still needing work, but with a preliminar patch) [19:53] I think that's all :) [19:53] LocutusOfBorg1: have you ever worked with any of the Ubuntu flavors (Xubuntu/Kubuntu/Lubuntu) whose packages mainly are in universE? [19:53] LocutusOfBorg1, are you going to upload boost-mpi-source1.58 =) and do you know why it needs an upload now? =)))))))) [19:54] xnox, sure [19:54] micahg, I think I don't remember none of them [19:54] but I might be wrong, it has been 3 years since my start :) [19:56] do you know of a way to tell a package is on a particular Ubuntu image, in case you need to give one of the flavors a heads up on an upload (or preferably discuss beforehand if it's a potentially disruptive change) [19:56] honestly not [19:57] so, there's a script in ubuntu-dev-tools [19:58] called seeded-in-ubuntu that can tell you if a package that you're about to upload is on an image [19:58] thanks [19:58] LocutusOfBorg1, which tools do you usually use when working on ubuntu? =) [19:58] I know reverse-depends, pbuilder-dist, grab-merge, and many others, but never used seeded-in-ubuntu [19:58] (Takes a source package as an argument) [19:59] I use grab-merge, and dput, and debdiff to look to the output [19:59] for sync I use syncpackage (well, I can't now), and requestsync [19:59] I use backportpackage [20:00] update-maintainer [20:00] oh, last time I manually looked at all seeds :\ [20:00] LocutusOfBorg1: FWIW, this application is a strong +1 from me, as long as you continue your trend of asking questions and being careful about your uploads. Better to be inquisitive than to be wrong. ;) [20:01] I think I'll start using pull-debian* checksymbols and something more, such as check-mir [20:01] thanks infinity, better safe than sorry :) [20:01] LocutusOfBorg1: are you aware of the release cycle in Ubuntu and the various freezes? [20:02] micahg, completely https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule [20:02] :) [20:02] :) [20:02] * LocutusOfBorg1 also breaks freezes each time, e.g. for virtualbox [20:02] * LocutusOfBorg1 because kernel is uploaded after the freeze, and vbox ships a kernel module :) [20:04] LocutusOfBorg1: do you just upload (or request sponsorship), or do you have to do something else before you can upload a new major version after feature freeze? [20:04] check reverse-dependencies, I shouldn't start a transition [20:04] and for sure it needs to migrate from proposed, so each thing that can prevent migration should be avoided/fixed [20:05] and check new features carefully for possible breaks [20:05] I gotta go now, my vote would be +1 :) [20:05] see you all later! [20:05] e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/can-utils/+bug/1290253 [20:05] Launchpad bug 1290253 in can-utils (Ubuntu) "[Ffe] Sync can-utils 0.0+git20140227-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] [20:05] thanks cyphermox [20:05] e.g. this page is so important for me http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/xenial/update_excuses.html [20:06] LocutusOfBorg1: what's the 'Ffe' part in the bug? [20:06] feature freeze exception, something I like to ask ;) [20:07] right, that's the piece I was getting at :0 [20:07] :) [20:07] e.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ettercap/+bug/1382848 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ettercap/+bug/1161001 [20:07] Launchpad bug 1382848 in ettercap (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Sync ettercap 1:0.8.1-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Medium,Fix released] [20:07] Launchpad bug 1161001 in ettercap (Ubuntu) "[ffe] please Sync ettercap 1:0.7.6-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix released] [20:08] ok, if there's no more questions, I'll start the vote [20:09] #vote Gianfranco Costamagna for MOTU [20:09] Please vote on: Gianfranco Costamagna for MOTU [20:09] Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) [20:09] +1 [20:09] +1 received from infinity [20:10] +1 [20:10] +1 received from stgraber [20:10] +1 [20:10] +1 received from bdmurray [20:11] +1 [20:11] +1 received from micahg [20:12] +1 [20:12] +1 received from xnox [20:12] and cyphermox is probably gone now. [20:12] #endvote [20:12] Voting ended on: Gianfranco Costamagna for MOTU [20:12] Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 [20:12] Motion carried [20:12] LocutusOfBorg1: congrats [20:12] thanks :) [21:05:15] I gotta go now, my vote would be +1 :) [20:12] :) congrats mate ;) [20:12] thanks you all :D [20:13] #topic AOB === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | DMB meeting | Current topic: AOB [20:13] #info next chair is infinity [20:14] there was a poke that there will be members expiring from dmb. [20:14] yep [20:14] #info DMB election for 3 seats soon [20:14] any volunteers to run it? [20:14] one of which is I, and I shall not be nominating myself to run in the election. [20:14] just thought to let you all know. [20:14] xnox: Sounds like you just nominated yourself to run the election itself, then, so you can replace yourself. :P [20:15] infinity, damn, i guess i do qualify to be a returning officer *sigh* [20:15] also infinity you are extra special - your expiry term is out of sync with everybody else. [20:16] yeah, I think that was a mistake [20:16] i wonder if that's a mistake and e.g. you should be either aligned to the 2016 or the 2017 cycles. [20:16] should be 2017 [20:16] That was because I was in some special by-election to replace ScottK, wasn't I? [20:16] yep [20:16] and he had just been elected that year [20:16] *re-elected [20:16] infinity, yes you are special =) [20:17] * infinity is a pretty, pretty snowflake. [20:17] ok, we'll find a victI^Wvolunteer to run the election at the next meeting [20:18] anything else? [20:18] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [20:18] Meeting ended Mon Jan 4 20:18:18 2016 UTC. [20:18] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-01-04-19.06.moin.txt [20:18] that's it from me, i shall go back to hanging curtains. [20:18] thanks all [20:18] tah [20:18] Ta. [20:18] LocutusOfBorg1, and do make that boost-mpi-source1.58 upload =) [20:18] now that you can. [20:19] thanks xnox I just need to followup with some permission granting, not sure about the workflow, but I think I'll take some days to learn the process [20:19] I don't like newbie mistakes :D [20:19] LocutusOfBorg1, yeap, no problem =) launchpad is good at rejecting really bad things =) [20:19] :D [20:19] I know fortunately