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| infinity | teward: The release schedule it always anchored on Thursdays, which is why the last column points out if an event is non-Thursday. | 00:12 |
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| teward | ok | 00:20 |
| wxl | infinity: do you have any sense as to when we'll be releasing on monday? | 03:56 |
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| infinity | wxl: Sometime fairly early in my work day, I assume, since testing seems to be going well. | 04:33 |
| infinity | wxl: (My workday starts around 1600 UTC) | 04:33 |
| wxl | yikes ok i'll be up all night infinity :) | 04:57 |
| wxl | infinity: looks like we have release notes from everyone. most of our testing is done, though i know both flexiondotorg and i would like to do some more with ppc | 06:16 |
| wxl | infinity: i should be up and about by 1500 or so | 06:18 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, I've marked Ubuntu MATE ready. | 08:00 |
| flexiondotorg | All set with Release Notes here. | 08:00 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, These are my noteworthy bugs for Ubuntu MATE. | 08:28 |
| flexiondotorg | I think they affect Lubuntu too. | 08:29 |
| flexiondotorg | * The cryptsetup password prompt is not shown. | 08:29 |
| flexiondotorg | * [LP: #1359689](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1359689) | 08:29 |
| flexiondotorg | * [LP: #1530548](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530548) | 08:29 |
| flexiondotorg | * Shutdown/Restart of the live session does not work in Virtualbox, VMWave and KVM guests. | 08:29 |
| flexiondotorg | * [LP: #1447038](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1447038) | 08:29 |
| flexiondotorg | * The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly. | 08:29 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged] | 08:29 |
| flexiondotorg | * [LP: #1530323](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530323) | 08:29 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1530548 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "passphrase input-box for encrypted disk is not shown" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:29 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox or VMWare" [High,Triaged] | 08:29 |
| ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1530323 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly" [Undecided,New] | 08:29 |
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| xnox | seb128, could you please decruft mariadb-10.0, on s390x, in xenial-proposed? there are old binaries left from a supperseeded build. | 12:21 |
| xnox | seb128, purge s390x mariadb-10.0 10.0.22-4 from xenial-proposed =) | 12:22 |
| xnox | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mariadb-10.0 | 12:22 |
| cjwatson | xnox,seb128: done | 12:24 |
| rbasak | Thank you! | 12:24 |
| xnox | hm. | 15:20 |
| xnox | NBS report doesn't resolve alternative build-deps does it? | 15:20 |
| xnox | e.g. i believe golang-blackfriday-dev is safe to remove. | 15:20 |
| cjwatson | xnox: no, it's not totally clear what it would mean (it would have to be careful to avoid listing all alternatives as removable, for instance). I agree golang-blackfriday-dev is OK, and done now | 15:25 |
| xnox | tah. ok. | 15:26 |
| infinity | wxl: Good morning. | 16:18 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Morning | 16:23 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl, o/ | 16:23 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Hey. I'm going to start releasing soon, once I have an idea from you and wxl on the state of ppc images and if you want them released or not. | 16:26 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, I do want the PPC images released for Ubuntu MATE. | 16:27 |
| flexiondotorg | I also tested the Lubuntu PPC mages for the Lubuntu guys and all looks good to me. | 16:27 |
| flexiondotorg | Guess we need wxl to confirm that. | 16:27 |
| flexiondotorg | Let me chase... | 16:27 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Out of curiosity, what hardware are you testing on? | 16:28 |
| flexiondotorg | iBook G4 | 16:28 |
| flexiondotorg | Which take f-o-r-e-v-e-r | 16:28 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: I want to do a change from yaboot to grub2 this cycle, but I need a smattering of 32-bit G4s and 64-bit G5s to test on. | 16:28 |
| flexiondotorg | I can test on the G4. | 16:29 |
| infinity | (And I own no Macs) | 16:29 |
| flexiondotorg | I've seen the G5 are cheap on ebay. | 16:29 |
| infinity | Well, not entirely true, I own a G3, but it can't use either bootloader. :P | 16:29 |
| * Ukikie hides his G3. | 16:30 | |
| flexiondotorg | For example - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-I-Mac-G5-2GHz-PowerPC-5-1GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-A1058-17-2518-/252237748581?hash=item3aba8a9965:g:KTgAAOSwHaBWipNx | 16:30 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Yeah, not likely to buy more computers just to test on. ;) | 16:30 |
| flexiondotorg | I have 11 ;-) | 16:31 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: But if I can find enough community people with kit to be guinea pigs, that'll work. | 16:31 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, There is quite a PPC group on Ubuntu MATE. | 16:31 |
| flexiondotorg | That are mostly on the Amiga X1000 | 16:31 |
| flexiondotorg | Which is modern. | 16:31 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Oh, curious. Is the X1000 openfirmare based as well? | 16:31 |
| flexiondotorg | But I think they build their own kernel and initrd. | 16:31 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, I'd have to ask. | 16:32 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Lubuntu team say yes to the PPC images. | 16:32 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Alright. I'll start the release dance, and wxl can send out the announcement when he pops in. | 16:33 |
| * infinity clears the britney block. | 16:33 | |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, "Custom Open Firmware compliant firmware was used on the Pegasos2 made by Genesi." | 16:33 |
| flexiondotorg | But | 16:33 |
| flexiondotorg | "CFE used on the AmigaOne X1000 built by A-EON Technology." | 16:33 |
| flexiondotorg | And | 16:34 |
| flexiondotorg | "Das U-Boot used on the Sam440, Sam460 and AmigaOne 500 products from ACube Systems. U-Boot was also used by Eyetech for their AmigaOne-XE and MicroA1-C products and various developer boards." | 16:34 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: uboot? Problematic indeed. Some day, it might be nice to make those work out of the box, today's probably not that day. | 16:35 |
| flexiondotorg | The guys running modern PowerPC workstations either have the AimgaOne X1000 or something based on the Sam440, Sam460 or AmigaOne 500 products. | 16:35 |
| flexiondotorg | Is grub for Power8? | 16:35 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: grub *should* work for any OF-using system with OF >= 3.0 | 16:35 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: So, G4 and up. | 16:35 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: But needs testing to confirm. | 16:36 |
| flexiondotorg | OK, well I can test the G4 no problem. | 16:36 |
| flexiondotorg | Just ping me. | 16:36 |
| flexiondotorg | I guess my seeds will be changing to includ grub on PPC and exlcude yaboot etc/ | 16:37 |
| flexiondotorg | ? | 16:37 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: All I have is an IBM PPC970MP and an IBM POWER7 (and a POWER5, if I dig up sulfur), but nothing Apple, so yeah, will bug you for testing. | 16:37 |
| flexiondotorg | No probs. | 16:37 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Yeah, I'll do all the seed and installer changes after we've tested a bit. | 16:37 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, OK. | 16:37 |
| flexiondotorg | Thats will be great. | 16:37 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: The early G4s are my biggest concern, since I think most of the grub2 OF work was originally done on a G5 (and then continued on IBM servers), so testing your G4 will help. | 16:39 |
| flexiondotorg | Sure. | 16:40 |
| * flexiondotorg is looking a G5 Power Macs now... | 16:40 | |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Don't bother unless you really really want another space heater. | 16:40 |
| flexiondotorg | Hah | 16:41 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: They were the fastest computers in the world (by a fair margin) when they came out, but time's not been kind to them. :P | 16:41 |
| flexiondotorg | You're right of course. | 16:41 |
| flexiondotorg | Everything is better with an SSD though. | 16:41 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Well Ubuntu MATE is all set. And I "believe" Lubuntu is too. | 16:42 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Yeahp, doing imagey things now. | 16:42 |
| flexiondotorg | I've certainly been given the go ahead for Lubuntu PPC. | 16:42 |
| flexiondotorg | Cool. | 16:42 |
| wxl | sorry crazy weather this morning | 17:21 |
| wxl | everything is covered in ice | 17:22 |
| wxl | sounds like we went ahead so that's good | 17:22 |
| infinity | wxl: I did the imagey bits, you still need to sort out the release announcement and send it out to -devel-announce/-release | 17:24 |
| * infinity goes to find coffee/breakfast really quickly. | 17:24 | |
| infinity | wxl: No huge rush on that, but should happen in the next few hours probably. :P | 17:25 |
| wxl | infinity: sounds doable thx | 17:25 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Can you explain what sits behind the torrents are what it is that eventually makes them "go"? | 17:43 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: The tracker mirrors from the main cdimage mirror, then has to index the images before listing them. | 17:46 |
| flexiondotorg | OK | 17:47 |
| flexiondotorg | So there is one seeder initially? | 17:47 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Yeah. Though, I'd expect it to have picked them up by now. | 17:48 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Oh, it seems to have. | 17:48 |
| infinity | wxl: Easiest way is to go back 6mo in the -devel-release archives and copy-pasta the previous alpha 1 announcement, adjusting where needed. :P | 17:50 |
| wxl | infinity: thx i was just going to ask about that | 17:51 |
| infinity | wxl: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html | 17:51 |
| wxl | even better XD | 17:51 |
| infinity | wxl: handily, that even includes the three flavours participating this time, so you just need to remove the ones that aren't, change versions a bit, thwack my sarcastic quote at the top, and you're done. :P | 17:52 |
| wxl | heh | 17:53 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-July/001144.html | 17:54 |
| wxl | i'll include *my own* sarcastic quote, thank you very much :) | 17:54 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, So are the images sync in all the right places? | 17:54 |
| flexiondotorg | s/sync/synced/ | 17:55 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Yep, all looks good to me. | 17:55 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: I always did love the irony of that Tesla quote. | 17:56 |
| flexiondotorg | Yep. | 17:56 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: "No thrill can go through the human heart like [blah blah blah, touchy feeling inventor stuff]... OH AND 240 VOLTS." | 17:57 |
| infinity | Okay, Alpha 1 marked as released in the tracker and dailies re-enabled for the participating flavours. | 18:16 |
| infinity | wxl: Let me know when the announce goes out, so I can moderate it for you. | 18:16 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Thanks of rhelping us out. | 18:24 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Any chance you can move caja-dropbox along in the NEW queue? | 18:32 |
| wxl | infinity: worked on it on the bus ride, put out the first fires to appear at work, so should be on it in just a bit | 18:43 |
| infinity | wxl: Alrighty. | 18:46 |
| wxl | infinity: mod away | 19:06 |
| infinity | wxl: You missed some s/wily/xenial/ edits. | 19:08 |
| wxl | infinity: gosh darnit, i looked at it twice. | 19:08 |
| * wxl needs gmail-vim | 19:08 | |
| wxl | will redo | 19:08 |
| wxl | uh | 19:09 |
| wxl | i did? | 19:09 |
| wxl | vim does not seem to think so | 19:09 |
| infinity | wxl: Editing in plain text might help... | 19:09 |
| infinity | wxl: This is how it came out in the mod queue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14402775/ | 19:10 |
| * wxl is | 19:10 | |
| infinity | wxl: Note all the 'wily' and 'Wily Werewolf' in there. | 19:10 |
| wxl | oh the encoded links jeez | 19:10 |
| infinity | Well, those shouldn't be there anyway. | 19:11 |
| infinity | I'm guessing whatever you used to copy mine copied the links as links, which is broken. | 19:11 |
| infinity | Should just copy/paste mine as plain text. | 19:11 |
| infinity | And let mail clients linkify. | 19:11 |
| infinity | ie: it should look identical to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html in your editor (minus blue underlines) | 19:12 |
| wxl | better now? | 19:13 |
| infinity | wxl: That looks a bit less sketchy, other than the fact that it's text/html, but I can forgive that. | 19:17 |
| infinity | I blame gmail. :P | 19:17 |
| wxl | infinity: blame gmail. | 19:17 |
| wxl | :) | 19:17 |
| infinity | wxl: Accepted. | 19:18 |
| wxl | infinity: thank you! sending out notices to lubuntu | 19:18 |
| wxl | flexiondotorg: we're released officially | 19:18 |
| flexiondotorg | wxl Thanks :-) | 19:18 |
| wxl | i'm not sure how to get a hold of the kylin folks, actually. hope they're subscribed to devel-announce | 19:19 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, I see a number of MATE 1.12 packages are held in proposed. | 19:20 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Is there a problem holding them up? | 19:20 |
| flexiondotorg | Because all the important stuff like session manage and settings daemon are still 1.10 in the repos. | 19:21 |
| flexiondotorg | Updating create a very busted system. | 19:21 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: I imagine it's mostly waiting on mate-settings-daemon? | 19:22 |
| infinity | Ish. | 19:22 |
| flexiondotorg | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-settings-daemon | 19:23 |
| flexiondotorg | Seems to be still build on arm? | 19:23 |
| infinity | it's working on it. | 19:24 |
| flexiondotorg | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-settings-daemon/1.12.1-1/+build/8797712 | 19:24 |
| flexiondotorg | OK, only started a while ago. | 19:24 |
| flexiondotorg | Cool. | 19:24 |
| flexiondotorg | So everything will catch up. | 19:24 |
| mapreri | umh, html in u-d-a@ (multipart, ok, at least) | 19:54 |
| wxl | infinity: do you tweet perchance? | 19:55 |
| infinity | mapreri: Yeah, blame gmail. :P | 19:56 |
| infinity | wxl: Nope, I'm a cranky old man who doesn't believe in microblogging. | 19:56 |
| infinity | wxl: Sadly, you'll never know what I had for dinner or when I go to the bathroom. | 19:56 |
| wxl | darn | 19:56 |
| wxl | i was just going to mention you, as i was getting ready to go to the bathroom XD | 19:56 |
| xnox | wxl, awwww nice quote =) | 19:57 |
| wxl | xnox: thx :) | 19:57 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, I remember that apport "disabled" somehow in 15.10 for a while. Is that the case with 16.04 at the moment? | 20:39 |
| flexiondotorg | infinity, Also I see Xenial is syncing with unstable, will that remain so until FF? | 20:40 |
| infinity | flexiondotorg: Not sure on the apport question, pitti's a better person to ask. And syncing from unstable will continue until DIF/FF, yes. | 20:41 |
| flexiondotorg | Thanks. | 20:42 |
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