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infinityteward: The release schedule it always anchored on Thursdays, which is why the last column points out if an event is non-Thursday.00:12
wxlinfinity: do you have any sense as to when we'll be releasing on monday?03:56
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infinitywxl: Sometime fairly early in my work day, I assume, since testing seems to be going well.04:33
infinitywxl: (My workday starts around 1600 UTC)04:33
wxlyikes ok i'll be up all night infinity :)04:57
wxlinfinity: looks like we have release notes from everyone. most of our testing is done, though i know both flexiondotorg and i would like to do some more with ppc06:16
wxlinfinity: i should be up and about by 1500 or so06:18
flexiondotorgwxl, I've marked Ubuntu MATE ready.08:00
flexiondotorgAll set with Release Notes here.08:00
flexiondotorgwxl, These are my noteworthy bugs for Ubuntu MATE.08:28
flexiondotorgI think they affect Lubuntu too.08:29
flexiondotorg  * The cryptsetup password prompt is not shown.08:29
flexiondotorg    * [LP: #1359689](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1359689)08:29
flexiondotorg    * [LP: #1530548](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530548)08:29
flexiondotorg  * Shutdown/Restart of the live session does not work in Virtualbox, VMWave and KVM guests.08:29
flexiondotorg    * [LP: #1447038](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1447038)08:29
flexiondotorg  * The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly.08:29
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged]08:29
flexiondotorg    * [LP: #1530323](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530323)08:29
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1530548 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "passphrase input-box for encrypted disk is not shown" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:29
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox or VMWare" [High,Triaged]08:29
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1530323 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly" [Undecided,New]08:29
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xnoxseb128, could you please decruft mariadb-10.0, on s390x, in xenial-proposed? there are old binaries left from a supperseeded build.12:21
xnoxseb128, purge s390x mariadb-10.0 10.0.22-4 from xenial-proposed =)12:22
cjwatsonxnox,seb128: done12:24
rbasakThank you!12:24
xnoxNBS report doesn't resolve alternative build-deps does it?15:20
xnoxe.g. i believe golang-blackfriday-dev is safe to remove.15:20
cjwatsonxnox: no, it's not totally clear what it would mean (it would have to be careful to avoid listing all alternatives as removable, for instance).  I agree golang-blackfriday-dev is OK, and done now15:25
xnoxtah. ok.15:26
infinitywxl: Good morning.16:18
flexiondotorginfinity, Morning16:23
flexiondotorgwxl, o/16:23
infinityflexiondotorg: Hey.  I'm going to start releasing soon, once I have an idea from you and wxl on the state of ppc images and if you want them released or not.16:26
flexiondotorginfinity, I do want the PPC images released for Ubuntu MATE.16:27
flexiondotorgI also tested the Lubuntu PPC mages for the Lubuntu guys and all looks good to me.16:27
flexiondotorgGuess we need wxl to confirm that.16:27
flexiondotorgLet me chase...16:27
infinityflexiondotorg: Out of curiosity, what hardware are you testing on?16:28
flexiondotorgiBook G416:28
flexiondotorgWhich take f-o-r-e-v-e-r16:28
infinityflexiondotorg: I want to do a change from yaboot to grub2 this cycle, but I need a smattering of 32-bit G4s and 64-bit G5s to test on.16:28
flexiondotorgI can test on the G4.16:29
infinity(And I own no Macs)16:29
flexiondotorgI've seen the G5 are cheap on ebay.16:29
infinityWell, not entirely true, I own a G3, but it can't use either bootloader. :P16:29
* Ukikie hides his G3.16:30
flexiondotorgFor example - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-I-Mac-G5-2GHz-PowerPC-5-1GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-A1058-17-2518-/252237748581?hash=item3aba8a9965:g:KTgAAOSwHaBWipNx16:30
infinityflexiondotorg: Yeah, not likely to buy more computers just to test on. ;)16:30
flexiondotorgI have 11 ;-)16:31
infinityflexiondotorg: But if I can find enough community people with kit to be guinea pigs, that'll work.16:31
flexiondotorginfinity, There is quite a PPC group on Ubuntu MATE.16:31
flexiondotorgThat are mostly on the Amiga X100016:31
flexiondotorgWhich is modern.16:31
infinityflexiondotorg: Oh, curious.  Is the X1000 openfirmare based as well?16:31
flexiondotorgBut I think they build their own kernel and initrd.16:31
flexiondotorginfinity, I'd have to ask.16:32
flexiondotorginfinity, Lubuntu team say yes to the PPC images.16:32
infinityflexiondotorg: Alright.  I'll start the release dance, and wxl can send out the announcement when he pops in.16:33
* infinity clears the britney block.16:33
flexiondotorginfinity, "Custom Open Firmware compliant firmware was used on the Pegasos2 made by Genesi."16:33
flexiondotorg"CFE used on the AmigaOne X1000 built by A-EON Technology."16:33
flexiondotorg"Das U-Boot used on the Sam440, Sam460 and AmigaOne 500 products from ACube Systems. U-Boot was also used by Eyetech for their AmigaOne-XE and MicroA1-C products and various developer boards."16:34
infinityflexiondotorg: uboot?  Problematic indeed.  Some day, it might be nice to make those work out of the box, today's probably not that day.16:35
flexiondotorgThe guys running modern PowerPC workstations either have the AimgaOne X1000 or something based on the Sam440, Sam460 or AmigaOne 500 products.16:35
flexiondotorgIs grub for Power8?16:35
infinityflexiondotorg: grub *should* work for any OF-using system with OF >= 3.016:35
infinityflexiondotorg: So, G4 and up.16:35
infinityflexiondotorg: But needs testing to confirm.16:36
flexiondotorgOK, well I can test the G4 no problem.16:36
flexiondotorgJust ping me.16:36
flexiondotorgI guess my seeds will be changing to includ grub on PPC and exlcude yaboot etc/16:37
infinityflexiondotorg: All I have is an IBM PPC970MP and an IBM POWER7 (and a POWER5, if I dig up sulfur), but nothing Apple, so yeah, will bug you for testing.16:37
flexiondotorgNo probs.16:37
infinityflexiondotorg: Yeah, I'll do all the seed and installer changes after we've tested a bit.16:37
flexiondotorginfinity, OK.16:37
flexiondotorgThats will be great.16:37
infinityflexiondotorg: The early G4s are my biggest concern, since I think most of the grub2 OF work was originally done on a G5 (and then continued on IBM servers), so testing your G4 will help.16:39
* flexiondotorg is looking a G5 Power Macs now...16:40
infinityflexiondotorg: Don't bother unless you really really want another space heater.16:40
infinityflexiondotorg: They were the fastest computers in the world (by a fair margin) when they came out, but time's not been kind to them. :P16:41
flexiondotorgYou're right of course.16:41
flexiondotorgEverything is better with an SSD though.16:41
flexiondotorginfinity, Well Ubuntu MATE is all set. And I "believe" Lubuntu is too.16:42
infinityflexiondotorg: Yeahp, doing imagey things now.16:42
flexiondotorgI've certainly been given the go ahead for Lubuntu PPC.16:42
wxlsorry crazy weather this morning17:21
wxleverything is covered in ice17:22
wxlsounds like we went ahead so that's good17:22
infinitywxl: I did the imagey bits, you still need to sort out the release announcement and send it out to -devel-announce/-release17:24
* infinity goes to find coffee/breakfast really quickly.17:24
infinitywxl: No huge rush on that, but should happen in the next few hours probably. :P17:25
wxlinfinity: sounds doable thx17:25
flexiondotorginfinity, Can you explain what sits behind the torrents are what it is that eventually makes them "go"?17:43
infinityflexiondotorg: The tracker mirrors from the main cdimage mirror, then has to index the images before listing them.17:46
flexiondotorgSo there is one seeder initially?17:47
infinityflexiondotorg: Yeah.  Though, I'd expect it to have picked them up by now.17:48
infinityflexiondotorg: Oh, it seems to have.17:48
infinitywxl: Easiest way is to go back 6mo in the -devel-release archives and copy-pasta the previous alpha 1 announcement, adjusting where needed. :P17:50
wxlinfinity: thx i was just going to ask about that17:51
infinitywxl: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html17:51
wxleven better XD17:51
infinitywxl: handily, that even includes the three flavours participating this time, so you just need to remove the ones that aren't, change versions a bit, thwack my sarcastic quote at the top, and you're done. :P17:52
flexiondotorgwxl https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-July/001144.html17:54
wxli'll include *my own* sarcastic quote, thank you very much :)17:54
flexiondotorginfinity, So are the images sync in all the right places?17:54
infinityflexiondotorg: Yep, all looks good to me.17:55
infinityflexiondotorg: I always did love the irony of that Tesla quote.17:56
infinityflexiondotorg: "No thrill can go through the human heart like [blah blah blah, touchy feeling inventor stuff]... OH AND 240 VOLTS."17:57
infinityOkay, Alpha 1 marked as released in the tracker and dailies re-enabled for the participating flavours.18:16
infinitywxl: Let me know when the announce goes out, so I can moderate it for you.18:16
flexiondotorginfinity, Thanks  of rhelping us out.18:24
flexiondotorginfinity, Any chance you can move caja-dropbox along in the NEW queue?18:32
wxlinfinity: worked on it on the bus ride, put out the first fires to appear at work, so should be on it in just a bit18:43
infinitywxl: Alrighty.18:46
wxlinfinity: mod away19:06
infinitywxl: You missed some s/wily/xenial/ edits.19:08
wxlinfinity: gosh darnit, i looked at it twice.19:08
* wxl needs gmail-vim19:08
wxlwill redo19:08
wxli did?19:09
wxlvim does not seem to think so19:09
infinitywxl: Editing in plain text might help...19:09
infinitywxl: This is how it came out in the mod queue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14402775/19:10
* wxl is19:10
infinitywxl: Note all the 'wily' and 'Wily Werewolf' in there.19:10
wxloh the encoded links jeez19:10
infinityWell, those shouldn't be there anyway.19:11
infinityI'm guessing whatever you used to copy mine copied the links as links, which is broken.19:11
infinityShould just copy/paste mine as plain text.19:11
infinityAnd let mail clients linkify.19:11
infinityie: it should look identical to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html in your editor (minus blue underlines)19:12
wxlbetter now?19:13
infinitywxl: That looks a bit less sketchy, other than the fact that it's text/html, but I can forgive that.19:17
infinityI blame gmail. :P19:17
wxlinfinity: blame gmail.19:17
infinitywxl: Accepted.19:18
wxlinfinity: thank you! sending out notices to lubuntu19:18
wxlflexiondotorg: we're released officially19:18
flexiondotorgwxl Thanks :-)19:18
wxli'm not sure how to get a hold of the kylin folks, actually. hope they're subscribed to devel-announce19:19
flexiondotorginfinity, I see a number of MATE 1.12 packages are held in proposed.19:20
flexiondotorginfinity, Is there a problem holding them up?19:20
flexiondotorgBecause all the important stuff like session manage and settings daemon are still 1.10 in the repos.19:21
flexiondotorgUpdating create a very busted system.19:21
infinityflexiondotorg: I imagine it's mostly waiting on mate-settings-daemon?19:22
flexiondotorgSeems to be still build on arm?19:23
infinityit's working on it.19:24
flexiondotorgOK, only started a while ago.19:24
flexiondotorgSo everything will catch up.19:24
mapreriumh, html in u-d-a@  (multipart, ok, at least)19:54
wxlinfinity: do you tweet perchance?19:55
infinitymapreri: Yeah, blame gmail. :P19:56
infinitywxl: Nope, I'm a cranky old man who doesn't believe in microblogging.19:56
infinitywxl: Sadly, you'll never know what I had for dinner or when I go to the bathroom.19:56
wxli was just going to mention you, as i was getting ready to go to the bathroom XD19:56
xnoxwxl, awwww nice quote =)19:57
wxlxnox: thx :)19:57
flexiondotorginfinity, I remember that apport "disabled" somehow in 15.10 for a while. Is that the case with 16.04 at the moment?20:39
flexiondotorginfinity, Also I see Xenial is syncing with unstable, will that remain so until FF?20:40
infinityflexiondotorg: Not sure on the apport question, pitti's a better person to ask.  And syncing from unstable will continue until DIF/FF, yes.20:41

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