=== tyhicks` is now known as tyhicks [00:12] teward: The release schedule it always anchored on Thursdays, which is why the last column points out if an event is non-Thursday. [00:20] ok [03:56] infinity: do you have any sense as to when we'll be releasing on monday? === plars-off is now known as plars [04:33] wxl: Sometime fairly early in my work day, I assume, since testing seems to be going well. [04:33] wxl: (My workday starts around 1600 UTC) [04:57] yikes ok i'll be up all night infinity :) [06:16] infinity: looks like we have release notes from everyone. most of our testing is done, though i know both flexiondotorg and i would like to do some more with ppc [06:18] infinity: i should be up and about by 1500 or so [08:00] wxl, I've marked Ubuntu MATE ready. [08:00] All set with Release Notes here. [08:28] wxl, These are my noteworthy bugs for Ubuntu MATE. [08:29] I think they affect Lubuntu too. [08:29] * The cryptsetup password prompt is not shown. [08:29] * [LP: #1359689](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1359689) [08:29] * [LP: #1530548](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530548) [08:29] * Shutdown/Restart of the live session does not work in Virtualbox, VMWave and KVM guests. [08:29] * [LP: #1447038](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1447038) [08:29] * The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly. [08:29] Launchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged] [08:29] * [LP: #1530323](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530323) [08:29] Launchpad bug 1530548 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "passphrase input-box for encrypted disk is not shown" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:29] Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox or VMWare" [High,Triaged] [08:29] Launchpad bug 1530323 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly" [Undecided,New] === maclin1 is now known as maclin === davmor2_ho-ho-ho is now known as davmor2 === xnox_2016 is now known as xnox === maclin1 is now known as maclin [12:21] seb128, could you please decruft mariadb-10.0, on s390x, in xenial-proposed? there are old binaries left from a supperseeded build. [12:22] seb128, purge s390x mariadb-10.0 10.0.22-4 from xenial-proposed =) [12:22] http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mariadb-10.0 [12:24] xnox,seb128: done [12:24] Thank you! [15:20] hm. [15:20] NBS report doesn't resolve alternative build-deps does it? [15:20] e.g. i believe golang-blackfriday-dev is safe to remove. [15:25] xnox: no, it's not totally clear what it would mean (it would have to be careful to avoid listing all alternatives as removable, for instance). I agree golang-blackfriday-dev is OK, and done now [15:26] tah. ok. [16:18] wxl: Good morning. [16:23] infinity, Morning [16:23] wxl, o/ [16:26] flexiondotorg: Hey. I'm going to start releasing soon, once I have an idea from you and wxl on the state of ppc images and if you want them released or not. [16:27] infinity, I do want the PPC images released for Ubuntu MATE. [16:27] I also tested the Lubuntu PPC mages for the Lubuntu guys and all looks good to me. [16:27] Guess we need wxl to confirm that. [16:27] Let me chase... [16:28] flexiondotorg: Out of curiosity, what hardware are you testing on? [16:28] iBook G4 [16:28] Which take f-o-r-e-v-e-r [16:28] flexiondotorg: I want to do a change from yaboot to grub2 this cycle, but I need a smattering of 32-bit G4s and 64-bit G5s to test on. [16:29] I can test on the G4. [16:29] (And I own no Macs) [16:29] I've seen the G5 are cheap on ebay. [16:29] Well, not entirely true, I own a G3, but it can't use either bootloader. :P [16:30] * Ukikie hides his G3. [16:30] For example - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-I-Mac-G5-2GHz-PowerPC-5-1GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-A1058-17-2518-/252237748581?hash=item3aba8a9965:g:KTgAAOSwHaBWipNx [16:30] flexiondotorg: Yeah, not likely to buy more computers just to test on. ;) [16:31] I have 11 ;-) [16:31] flexiondotorg: But if I can find enough community people with kit to be guinea pigs, that'll work. [16:31] infinity, There is quite a PPC group on Ubuntu MATE. [16:31] That are mostly on the Amiga X1000 [16:31] Which is modern. [16:31] flexiondotorg: Oh, curious. Is the X1000 openfirmare based as well? [16:31] But I think they build their own kernel and initrd. [16:32] infinity, I'd have to ask. [16:32] infinity, Lubuntu team say yes to the PPC images. [16:33] flexiondotorg: Alright. I'll start the release dance, and wxl can send out the announcement when he pops in. [16:33] * infinity clears the britney block. [16:33] infinity, "Custom Open Firmware compliant firmware was used on the Pegasos2 made by Genesi." [16:33] But [16:33] "CFE used on the AmigaOne X1000 built by A-EON Technology." [16:34] And [16:34] "Das U-Boot used on the Sam440, Sam460 and AmigaOne 500 products from ACube Systems. U-Boot was also used by Eyetech for their AmigaOne-XE and MicroA1-C products and various developer boards." [16:35] flexiondotorg: uboot? Problematic indeed. Some day, it might be nice to make those work out of the box, today's probably not that day. [16:35] The guys running modern PowerPC workstations either have the AimgaOne X1000 or something based on the Sam440, Sam460 or AmigaOne 500 products. [16:35] Is grub for Power8? [16:35] flexiondotorg: grub *should* work for any OF-using system with OF >= 3.0 [16:35] flexiondotorg: So, G4 and up. [16:36] flexiondotorg: But needs testing to confirm. [16:36] OK, well I can test the G4 no problem. [16:36] Just ping me. [16:37] I guess my seeds will be changing to includ grub on PPC and exlcude yaboot etc/ [16:37] ? [16:37] flexiondotorg: All I have is an IBM PPC970MP and an IBM POWER7 (and a POWER5, if I dig up sulfur), but nothing Apple, so yeah, will bug you for testing. [16:37] No probs. [16:37] flexiondotorg: Yeah, I'll do all the seed and installer changes after we've tested a bit. [16:37] infinity, OK. [16:37] Thats will be great. [16:39] flexiondotorg: The early G4s are my biggest concern, since I think most of the grub2 OF work was originally done on a G5 (and then continued on IBM servers), so testing your G4 will help. [16:40] Sure. [16:40] * flexiondotorg is looking a G5 Power Macs now... [16:40] flexiondotorg: Don't bother unless you really really want another space heater. [16:41] Hah [16:41] flexiondotorg: They were the fastest computers in the world (by a fair margin) when they came out, but time's not been kind to them. :P [16:41] You're right of course. [16:41] Everything is better with an SSD though. [16:42] infinity, Well Ubuntu MATE is all set. And I "believe" Lubuntu is too. [16:42] flexiondotorg: Yeahp, doing imagey things now. [16:42] I've certainly been given the go ahead for Lubuntu PPC. [16:42] Cool. [17:21] sorry crazy weather this morning [17:22] everything is covered in ice [17:22] sounds like we went ahead so that's good [17:24] wxl: I did the imagey bits, you still need to sort out the release announcement and send it out to -devel-announce/-release [17:24] * infinity goes to find coffee/breakfast really quickly. [17:25] wxl: No huge rush on that, but should happen in the next few hours probably. :P [17:25] infinity: sounds doable thx [17:43] infinity, Can you explain what sits behind the torrents are what it is that eventually makes them "go"? [17:46] flexiondotorg: The tracker mirrors from the main cdimage mirror, then has to index the images before listing them. [17:47] OK [17:47] So there is one seeder initially? [17:48] flexiondotorg: Yeah. Though, I'd expect it to have picked them up by now. [17:48] flexiondotorg: Oh, it seems to have. [17:50] wxl: Easiest way is to go back 6mo in the -devel-release archives and copy-pasta the previous alpha 1 announcement, adjusting where needed. :P [17:51] infinity: thx i was just going to ask about that [17:51] wxl: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html [17:51] even better XD [17:52] wxl: handily, that even includes the three flavours participating this time, so you just need to remove the ones that aren't, change versions a bit, thwack my sarcastic quote at the top, and you're done. :P [17:53] heh [17:54] wxl https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-July/001144.html [17:54] i'll include *my own* sarcastic quote, thank you very much :) [17:54] infinity, So are the images sync in all the right places? [17:55] s/sync/synced/ [17:55] flexiondotorg: Yep, all looks good to me. [17:56] flexiondotorg: I always did love the irony of that Tesla quote. [17:56] Yep. [17:57] flexiondotorg: "No thrill can go through the human heart like [blah blah blah, touchy feeling inventor stuff]... OH AND 240 VOLTS." [18:16] Okay, Alpha 1 marked as released in the tracker and dailies re-enabled for the participating flavours. [18:16] wxl: Let me know when the announce goes out, so I can moderate it for you. [18:24] infinity, Thanks of rhelping us out. [18:32] infinity, Any chance you can move caja-dropbox along in the NEW queue? [18:43] infinity: worked on it on the bus ride, put out the first fires to appear at work, so should be on it in just a bit [18:46] wxl: Alrighty. [19:06] infinity: mod away [19:08] wxl: You missed some s/wily/xenial/ edits. [19:08] infinity: gosh darnit, i looked at it twice. [19:08] * wxl needs gmail-vim [19:08] will redo [19:09] uh [19:09] i did? [19:09] vim does not seem to think so [19:09] wxl: Editing in plain text might help... [19:10] wxl: This is how it came out in the mod queue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14402775/ [19:10] * wxl is [19:10] wxl: Note all the 'wily' and 'Wily Werewolf' in there. [19:10] oh the encoded links jeez [19:11] Well, those shouldn't be there anyway. [19:11] I'm guessing whatever you used to copy mine copied the links as links, which is broken. [19:11] Should just copy/paste mine as plain text. [19:11] And let mail clients linkify. [19:12] ie: it should look identical to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html in your editor (minus blue underlines) [19:13] better now? [19:17] wxl: That looks a bit less sketchy, other than the fact that it's text/html, but I can forgive that. [19:17] I blame gmail. :P [19:17] infinity: blame gmail. [19:17] :) [19:18] wxl: Accepted. [19:18] infinity: thank you! sending out notices to lubuntu [19:18] flexiondotorg: we're released officially [19:18] wxl Thanks :-) [19:19] i'm not sure how to get a hold of the kylin folks, actually. hope they're subscribed to devel-announce [19:20] infinity, I see a number of MATE 1.12 packages are held in proposed. [19:20] infinity, Is there a problem holding them up? [19:21] Because all the important stuff like session manage and settings daemon are still 1.10 in the repos. [19:21] Updating create a very busted system. [19:22] flexiondotorg: I imagine it's mostly waiting on mate-settings-daemon? [19:22] Ish. [19:23] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-settings-daemon [19:23] Seems to be still build on arm? [19:24] it's working on it. [19:24] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-settings-daemon/1.12.1-1/+build/8797712 [19:24] OK, only started a while ago. [19:24] Cool. [19:24] So everything will catch up. [19:54] umh, html in u-d-a@ (multipart, ok, at least) [19:55] infinity: do you tweet perchance? [19:56] mapreri: Yeah, blame gmail. :P [19:56] wxl: Nope, I'm a cranky old man who doesn't believe in microblogging. [19:56] wxl: Sadly, you'll never know what I had for dinner or when I go to the bathroom. [19:56] darn [19:56] i was just going to mention you, as i was getting ready to go to the bathroom XD [19:57] wxl, awwww nice quote =) [19:57] xnox: thx :) [20:39] infinity, I remember that apport "disabled" somehow in 15.10 for a while. Is that the case with 16.04 at the moment? [20:40] infinity, Also I see Xenial is syncing with unstable, will that remain so until FF? [20:41] flexiondotorg: Not sure on the apport question, pitti's a better person to ask. And syncing from unstable will continue until DIF/FF, yes. [20:42] Thanks.