[00:12] <infinity> teward: The release schedule it always anchored on Thursdays, which is why the last column points out if an event is non-Thursday.
[00:20] <teward> ok
[03:56] <wxl> infinity: do you have any sense as to when we'll be releasing on monday?
[04:33] <infinity> wxl: Sometime fairly early in my work day, I assume, since testing seems to be going well.
[04:33] <infinity> wxl: (My workday starts around 1600 UTC)
[04:57] <wxl> yikes ok i'll be up all night infinity :)
[06:16] <wxl> infinity: looks like we have release notes from everyone. most of our testing is done, though i know both flexiondotorg and i would like to do some more with ppc
[06:18] <wxl> infinity: i should be up and about by 1500 or so
[08:00] <flexiondotorg> wxl, I've marked Ubuntu MATE ready.
[08:00] <flexiondotorg> All set with Release Notes here.
[08:28] <flexiondotorg> wxl, These are my noteworthy bugs for Ubuntu MATE.
[08:29] <flexiondotorg> I think they affect Lubuntu too.
[08:29] <flexiondotorg>   * The cryptsetup password prompt is not shown.
[08:29] <flexiondotorg>     * [LP: #1359689](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1359689)
[08:29] <flexiondotorg>     * [LP: #1530548](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530548)
[08:29] <flexiondotorg>   * Shutdown/Restart of the live session does not work in Virtualbox, VMWave and KVM guests.
[08:29] <flexiondotorg>     * [LP: #1447038](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1447038)
[08:29] <flexiondotorg>   * The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly.
[08:29] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1359689 in linux (Ubuntu Vivid) "cryptsetup password prompt not shown" [Critical,Triaged]
[08:29] <flexiondotorg>     * [LP: #1530323](https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1530323)
[08:29] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1530548 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "passphrase input-box for encrypted disk is not shown" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[08:29] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1447038 in casper (Ubuntu) "Shutdown/Restart of live session guest does not work in Virtualbox or VMWare" [High,Triaged]
[08:29] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 1530323 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "The input box for editing a Wired connection static IP address doesn't appear correctly" [Undecided,New]
[12:21] <xnox> seb128, could you please decruft mariadb-10.0, on s390x, in xenial-proposed? there are old binaries left from a supperseeded build.
[12:22] <xnox> seb128, purge s390x mariadb-10.0 10.0.22-4 from xenial-proposed =)
[12:22] <xnox> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#mariadb-10.0
[12:24] <cjwatson> xnox,seb128: done
[12:24] <rbasak> Thank you!
[15:20] <xnox> hm.
[15:20] <xnox> NBS report doesn't resolve alternative build-deps does it?
[15:20] <xnox> e.g. i believe golang-blackfriday-dev is safe to remove.
[15:25] <cjwatson> xnox: no, it's not totally clear what it would mean (it would have to be careful to avoid listing all alternatives as removable, for instance).  I agree golang-blackfriday-dev is OK, and done now
[15:26] <xnox> tah. ok.
[16:18] <infinity> wxl: Good morning.
[16:23] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Morning
[16:23] <flexiondotorg> wxl, o/
[16:26] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Hey.  I'm going to start releasing soon, once I have an idea from you and wxl on the state of ppc images and if you want them released or not.
[16:27] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I do want the PPC images released for Ubuntu MATE.
[16:27] <flexiondotorg> I also tested the Lubuntu PPC mages for the Lubuntu guys and all looks good to me.
[16:27] <flexiondotorg> Guess we need wxl to confirm that.
[16:27] <flexiondotorg> Let me chase...
[16:28] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Out of curiosity, what hardware are you testing on?
[16:28] <flexiondotorg> iBook G4
[16:28] <flexiondotorg> Which take f-o-r-e-v-e-r
[16:28] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I want to do a change from yaboot to grub2 this cycle, but I need a smattering of 32-bit G4s and 64-bit G5s to test on.
[16:29] <flexiondotorg> I can test on the G4.
[16:29] <infinity> (And I own no Macs)
[16:29] <flexiondotorg> I've seen the G5 are cheap on ebay.
[16:29] <infinity> Well, not entirely true, I own a G3, but it can't use either bootloader. :P
[16:30]  * Ukikie hides his G3.
[16:30] <flexiondotorg> For example - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apple-I-Mac-G5-2GHz-PowerPC-5-1GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-A1058-17-2518-/252237748581?hash=item3aba8a9965:g:KTgAAOSwHaBWipNx
[16:30] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yeah, not likely to buy more computers just to test on. ;)
[16:31] <flexiondotorg> I have 11 ;-)
[16:31] <infinity> flexiondotorg: But if I can find enough community people with kit to be guinea pigs, that'll work.
[16:31] <flexiondotorg> infinity, There is quite a PPC group on Ubuntu MATE.
[16:31] <flexiondotorg> That are mostly on the Amiga X1000
[16:31] <flexiondotorg> Which is modern.
[16:31] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Oh, curious.  Is the X1000 openfirmare based as well?
[16:31] <flexiondotorg> But I think they build their own kernel and initrd.
[16:32] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I'd have to ask.
[16:32] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Lubuntu team say yes to the PPC images.
[16:33] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Alright.  I'll start the release dance, and wxl can send out the announcement when he pops in.
[16:33]  * infinity clears the britney block.
[16:33] <flexiondotorg> infinity, "Custom Open Firmware compliant firmware was used on the Pegasos2 made by Genesi."
[16:33] <flexiondotorg> But
[16:33] <flexiondotorg> "CFE used on the AmigaOne X1000 built by A-EON Technology."
[16:34] <flexiondotorg> And
[16:34] <flexiondotorg> "Das U-Boot used on the Sam440, Sam460 and AmigaOne 500 products from ACube Systems. U-Boot was also used by Eyetech for their AmigaOne-XE and MicroA1-C products and various developer boards."
[16:35] <infinity> flexiondotorg: uboot?  Problematic indeed.  Some day, it might be nice to make those work out of the box, today's probably not that day.
[16:35] <flexiondotorg> The guys running modern PowerPC workstations either have the AimgaOne X1000 or something based on the Sam440, Sam460 or AmigaOne 500 products.
[16:35] <flexiondotorg> Is grub for Power8?
[16:35] <infinity> flexiondotorg: grub *should* work for any OF-using system with OF >= 3.0
[16:35] <infinity> flexiondotorg: So, G4 and up.
[16:36] <infinity> flexiondotorg: But needs testing to confirm.
[16:36] <flexiondotorg> OK, well I can test the G4 no problem.
[16:36] <flexiondotorg> Just ping me.
[16:37] <flexiondotorg> I guess my seeds will be changing to includ grub on PPC and exlcude yaboot etc/
[16:37] <flexiondotorg> ?
[16:37] <infinity> flexiondotorg: All I have is an IBM PPC970MP and an IBM POWER7 (and a POWER5, if I dig up sulfur), but nothing Apple, so yeah, will bug you for testing.
[16:37] <flexiondotorg> No probs.
[16:37] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yeah, I'll do all the seed and installer changes after we've tested a bit.
[16:37] <flexiondotorg> infinity, OK.
[16:37] <flexiondotorg> Thats will be great.
[16:39] <infinity> flexiondotorg: The early G4s are my biggest concern, since I think most of the grub2 OF work was originally done on a G5 (and then continued on IBM servers), so testing your G4 will help.
[16:40] <flexiondotorg> Sure.
[16:40]  * flexiondotorg is looking a G5 Power Macs now...
[16:40] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Don't bother unless you really really want another space heater.
[16:41] <flexiondotorg> Hah
[16:41] <infinity> flexiondotorg: They were the fastest computers in the world (by a fair margin) when they came out, but time's not been kind to them. :P
[16:41] <flexiondotorg> You're right of course.
[16:41] <flexiondotorg> Everything is better with an SSD though.
[16:42] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Well Ubuntu MATE is all set. And I "believe" Lubuntu is too.
[16:42] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yeahp, doing imagey things now.
[16:42] <flexiondotorg> I've certainly been given the go ahead for Lubuntu PPC.
[16:42] <flexiondotorg> Cool.
[17:21] <wxl> sorry crazy weather this morning
[17:22] <wxl> everything is covered in ice
[17:22] <wxl> sounds like we went ahead so that's good
[17:24] <infinity> wxl: I did the imagey bits, you still need to sort out the release announcement and send it out to -devel-announce/-release
[17:24]  * infinity goes to find coffee/breakfast really quickly.
[17:25] <infinity> wxl: No huge rush on that, but should happen in the next few hours probably. :P
[17:25] <wxl> infinity: sounds doable thx
[17:43] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Can you explain what sits behind the torrents are what it is that eventually makes them "go"?
[17:46] <infinity> flexiondotorg: The tracker mirrors from the main cdimage mirror, then has to index the images before listing them.
[17:47] <flexiondotorg> OK
[17:47] <flexiondotorg> So there is one seeder initially?
[17:48] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yeah.  Though, I'd expect it to have picked them up by now.
[17:48] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Oh, it seems to have.
[17:50] <infinity> wxl: Easiest way is to go back 6mo in the -devel-release archives and copy-pasta the previous alpha 1 announcement, adjusting where needed. :P
[17:51] <wxl> infinity: thx i was just going to ask about that
[17:51] <infinity> wxl: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html
[17:51] <wxl> even better XD
[17:52] <infinity> wxl: handily, that even includes the three flavours participating this time, so you just need to remove the ones that aren't, change versions a bit, thwack my sarcastic quote at the top, and you're done. :P
[17:53] <wxl> heh
[17:54] <flexiondotorg> wxl https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-July/001144.html
[17:54] <wxl> i'll include *my own* sarcastic quote, thank you very much :)
[17:54] <flexiondotorg> infinity, So are the images sync in all the right places?
[17:55] <flexiondotorg> s/sync/synced/
[17:55] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Yep, all looks good to me.
[17:56] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I always did love the irony of that Tesla quote.
[17:56] <flexiondotorg> Yep.
[17:57] <infinity> flexiondotorg: "No thrill can go through the human heart like [blah blah blah, touchy feeling inventor stuff]... OH AND 240 VOLTS."
[18:16] <infinity> Okay, Alpha 1 marked as released in the tracker and dailies re-enabled for the participating flavours.
[18:16] <infinity> wxl: Let me know when the announce goes out, so I can moderate it for you.
[18:24] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Thanks  of rhelping us out.
[18:32] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Any chance you can move caja-dropbox along in the NEW queue?
[18:43] <wxl> infinity: worked on it on the bus ride, put out the first fires to appear at work, so should be on it in just a bit
[18:46] <infinity> wxl: Alrighty.
[19:06] <wxl> infinity: mod away
[19:08] <infinity> wxl: You missed some s/wily/xenial/ edits.
[19:08] <wxl> infinity: gosh darnit, i looked at it twice.
[19:08]  * wxl needs gmail-vim
[19:08] <wxl> will redo
[19:09] <wxl> uh
[19:09] <wxl> i did?
[19:09] <wxl> vim does not seem to think so
[19:09] <infinity> wxl: Editing in plain text might help...
[19:10] <infinity> wxl: This is how it came out in the mod queue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14402775/
[19:10]  * wxl is
[19:10] <infinity> wxl: Note all the 'wily' and 'Wily Werewolf' in there.
[19:10] <wxl> oh the encoded links jeez
[19:11] <infinity> Well, those shouldn't be there anyway.
[19:11] <infinity> I'm guessing whatever you used to copy mine copied the links as links, which is broken.
[19:11] <infinity> Should just copy/paste mine as plain text.
[19:11] <infinity> And let mail clients linkify.
[19:12] <infinity> ie: it should look identical to https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2015-June/001139.html in your editor (minus blue underlines)
[19:13] <wxl> better now?
[19:17] <infinity> wxl: That looks a bit less sketchy, other than the fact that it's text/html, but I can forgive that.
[19:17] <infinity> I blame gmail. :P
[19:17] <wxl> infinity: blame gmail.
[19:17] <wxl> :)
[19:18] <infinity> wxl: Accepted.
[19:18] <wxl> infinity: thank you! sending out notices to lubuntu
[19:18] <wxl> flexiondotorg: we're released officially
[19:18] <flexiondotorg> wxl Thanks :-)
[19:19] <wxl> i'm not sure how to get a hold of the kylin folks, actually. hope they're subscribed to devel-announce
[19:20] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I see a number of MATE 1.12 packages are held in proposed.
[19:20] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Is there a problem holding them up?
[19:21] <flexiondotorg> Because all the important stuff like session manage and settings daemon are still 1.10 in the repos.
[19:21] <flexiondotorg> Updating create a very busted system.
[19:22] <infinity> flexiondotorg: I imagine it's mostly waiting on mate-settings-daemon?
[19:22] <infinity> Ish.
[19:23] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-settings-daemon
[19:23] <flexiondotorg> Seems to be still build on arm?
[19:24] <infinity> it's working on it.
[19:24] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mate-settings-daemon/1.12.1-1/+build/8797712
[19:24] <flexiondotorg> OK, only started a while ago.
[19:24] <flexiondotorg> Cool.
[19:24] <flexiondotorg> So everything will catch up.
[19:54] <mapreri> umh, html in u-d-a@  (multipart, ok, at least)
[19:55] <wxl> infinity: do you tweet perchance?
[19:56] <infinity> mapreri: Yeah, blame gmail. :P
[19:56] <infinity> wxl: Nope, I'm a cranky old man who doesn't believe in microblogging.
[19:56] <infinity> wxl: Sadly, you'll never know what I had for dinner or when I go to the bathroom.
[19:56] <wxl> darn
[19:56] <wxl> i was just going to mention you, as i was getting ready to go to the bathroom XD
[19:57] <xnox> wxl, awwww nice quote =)
[19:57] <wxl> xnox: thx :)
[20:39] <flexiondotorg> infinity, I remember that apport "disabled" somehow in 15.10 for a while. Is that the case with 16.04 at the moment?
[20:40] <flexiondotorg> infinity, Also I see Xenial is syncing with unstable, will that remain so until FF?
[20:41] <infinity> flexiondotorg: Not sure on the apport question, pitti's a better person to ask.  And syncing from unstable will continue until DIF/FF, yes.
[20:42] <flexiondotorg> Thanks.