diddledan | ebening | 03:16 |
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diddledan | time for some pillocks methinks | 03:18 |
diddledan | yey for medications | 03:18 |
* diddledan medicates and meditates | 03:35 | |
mapps | grmpf pc restarted | 06:51 |
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czajkowski | aloha | 09:01 |
diplo | Morning all | 09:05 |
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davmor2 | Morning all | 09:07 |
popey | Morning! | 09:08 |
* popey notes all ubuntu channels suddenly have people in again :) | 09:09 | |
diplo | heh, I rebooted my VPS a few days ago and forgot to restart irssi :P | 09:10 |
diplo | willcooke: Are you about ? | 09:21 |
willcooke | hi diplo, I am | 09:22 |
diplo | aha, I recognised the name, funnily enough I found your blog last night | 09:23 |
diplo | Looking into Home automation and after reading your blog in October it said you were following up with more :) | 09:23 |
diplo | Very interested if you do :D | 09:23 |
willcooke | oh cool! | 09:23 |
willcooke | Yeah, I have loads of hacked up bits and bobs | 09:24 |
diplo | Exactly the things I fancy doing is what you've already achieved | 09:24 |
diplo | I'm going to start ordering some stuff this week to start learning/playing | 09:24 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, happy New Year, and happy World Braille Day! 😃 | 09:24 |
willcooke | Most recently I got it hooked up to Siri with homebridge https://github.com/nfarina/homebridge | 09:24 |
willcooke | if you have an evil iPhone | 09:24 |
diplo | Nope, but again I want all sorts of integration | 09:25 |
diplo | I think you were in the Mycroft channel at one point ? | 09:25 |
willcooke | diplo, so as a start I would recommend going for remote controlled power sockets - they are the cheapest, most reliable, easiest and most flexible way to enable things | 09:25 |
willcooke | Something like: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Maplin-5-Pack-Standby-Saving-Wireless-Sockets-Remote-Control-N38HN-/141848320386?hash=item2106d19982:g:pmsAAOSwNSxVa2EP | 09:26 |
foobarry | does sony charge for ability to play mutliplayer games? | 09:26 |
foobarry | on the PS4? | 09:26 |
diplo | Sounds good, and a url - you are a star :D | 09:26 |
willcooke | and then you can use the rcswitch library on both Arduino and RaspPi to control them,. | 09:26 |
willcooke | I'd suggest writing a script to let you switch on and off sockets, then web-enable that with a simple REST API | 09:26 |
willcooke | diplo, let me know if you have questions, happy to help | 09:27 |
diplo | Yeah, defo will try that, little flask app or something sounds good, just installed https://home-assistant.io/ | 09:27 |
willcooke | ooh - I haven't see that project before, I will check it out | 09:28 |
diplo | Will do thanks, do you use any of the Zigbee/Z-Wave kit? Didn't see anything on your site so far, seems you're using RF freq's instead | 09:28 |
willcooke | I found them to be quite expensive | 09:29 |
willcooke | for what they are | 09:29 |
diplo | yeah, after my initial investigation I was the same, I guess that's why I was interested in your ideas :) | 09:30 |
willcooke | but if you want to transmit data between two home-brew devices check out the NRF24 modules | 09:30 |
diplo | Also looked at making some of my own kit, rather than buying pre bought stuff | 09:30 |
willcooke | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1pc-NRF24L01-Antenna-Wireless-Transceiver-Module-SPI-For-Arduino-100M-/151930914258?hash=item235fc9c5d2:g:tfkAAOSwUdlWgTjl | 09:30 |
* diplo opens a google doc for all this great info :) | 09:30 | |
diplo | Nice and cheap! | 09:31 |
willcooke | If you're planning on building some sensors I'd suggest the Pro Mini Arduino clones.. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-Mini-atmega328-Board-5V-16M-Arduino-Compatible-Nano-NEW-/181894982202?hash=item2a59c92a3a:g:nc4AAOSw3ydVvjim | 09:31 |
diplo | I think I'm going to order a few bits in and experiment first | 09:31 |
diplo | My ultimate goal for this was to make a thermostat and control my boiler remotely | 09:32 |
diplo | But I want to start small and build up | 09:32 |
diplo | andylockran has been doing something similar | 09:32 |
willcooke | Typical UK boiler-thermostat set ups are pretty easy really. It's just a couple of mains voltage switches | 09:32 |
willcooke | so relays are ideal | 09:33 |
willcooke | and can be easily controlled from a pi/arduino | 09:33 |
diplo | yeah that's the part I'm totally lost in, was reading a few sites last night that gave me some ideas though | 09:33 |
diplo | If I put together some info and how I expect to do it and stick it in a doc or something would you mind having a look over, want to work it out myself but would like an appraising eye if at all possible :) don't want to break things :P | 09:34 |
willcooke | sure thing, no problem. Just remember, mains voltage, dangerous, etc etc | 09:34 |
willcooke | so, I dunno, you might want to wear some welly boots or something | 09:35 |
diplo | heheh work for an Electrical Wholesaler, I get that a lot here :D | 09:35 |
willcooke | ahhh, perfect | 09:35 |
diplo | Unfortunately no electronics stuff, so ebay/amazon et all for me :/ | 09:35 |
willcooke | I think if I were to implement my heating controller again I wouldn't use a Pi. It's overkill. An ESP8266 and a dual-relay board would be sufficient. | 09:36 |
willcooke | and then do all the smarts somewhere else | 09:36 |
willcooke | (maybe a Pi) | 09:36 |
diplo | I was asking here a week or so ago, going to get a soldering iron, any recommendations, they seem to be all over the place in price | 09:36 |
willcooke | and keep the controller as a simple on/off device | 09:36 |
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diplo | Ah I was looking at those yesterday | 09:36 |
willcooke | @ soldering iron - you can't go wrong with Antex | 09:37 |
davmor2 | just a heads up aldi are doing 2 32gb micro sd card for 12.99 :) | 09:37 |
diplo | OK great thank you, a wealth of knowledge! | 09:37 |
willcooke | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antex-Soldering-Iron-XS25W-230V-with-PVC-Cable-and-13A-Plug-/252090847897?hash=item3ab1c91299:g:F~MAAOSwLqFV9gJe | 09:37 |
diplo | ta davmor2 | 09:37 |
willcooke | actually, no, that iron has a *massive* tip | 09:38 |
willcooke | maybe this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Antex-M12-12W-Soldering-Iron-230V-Silicone-Cable-British-Plug-S17J470-/380957780265?hash=item58b2da6929:g:NJEAAOSwv0tVJ37N | 09:38 |
diplo | hah that was one of my questions to someone else, not knowing which to buy | 09:38 |
willcooke | 12W will be enough for home-hacking | 09:39 |
willcooke | that M12 one is the one I've got | 09:39 |
willcooke | I sometimes wish I had a smaller tip, but not enough to go and buy one. | 09:39 |
willcooke | they're easy enough to replace | 09:39 |
diplo | OK great thanks again, think I'm going to order some bits, maybe some little leds and a bread board etc, start small, little web app to test and work my up | 09:40 |
willcooke | awesome! | 09:40 |
willcooke | Be warned though.... | 09:40 |
willcooke | once you start, it's really hard to stop :) | 09:40 |
diplo | Wanted a project for a long time, get bored when my kids are with their mum | 09:40 |
willcooke | suddenly everything needs to be an IoT device ;) | 09:41 |
diplo | hah, well it's the mycroft that made my decision as I wanted to integrate all this stuff | 09:41 |
diplo | Also the NEST stuff as well, so yeah I believe my house will turn the same way :) | 09:41 |
willcooke | oh yes! I can't wait to get my hands on Mycroft | 09:41 |
willcooke | Nest looks nice, and is probably a similar cost to my homebrew one, after I factor in the time I spent on it | 09:42 |
diplo | Yeah, but the time doesn't count as you're enjoying yourself ? | 09:42 |
willcooke | ha, good point | 09:42 |
diplo | And you're totally in control as well | 09:43 |
willcooke | yeah, thats the main win for me | 09:43 |
diplo | I'm no tinfoil hat person, but I also rather keep my data/connections internal or self hosted if I can | 09:43 |
willcooke | totally agree | 09:43 |
diplo | To that point I'm moving contacts etc away from google, will still use their services just not be dependant on them | 09:44 |
willcooke | oh, if you do get a 433 MHz radio receiver (note: don't buy the really cheap ones, they are garbage) | 09:44 |
willcooke | then a really simple project is getting a smoke alarm hooked up | 09:44 |
diplo | OK, anything else use that spectrum ( not sure if that's the right word ) IE for interference ? | 09:44 |
willcooke | you can buy off the shelf (ebay - China) alarm that will hook right in | 09:44 |
* diplo is ashamed, I actually don't have *ANY* in my house currently | 09:44 | |
diplo | Well I have two in boxes that have never been setup | 09:45 |
willcooke | it's a free for all spectrum, so it's very noisy, but the signals don't propagate a very long way | 09:45 |
willcooke | so you'll be ok | 09:45 |
diplo | ah ok, like that zigbee etc | 09:45 |
willcooke | more or less | 09:45 |
diplo | I think I'll do the LED's first, set up a controller receiver and turn on and off in different parts of the house | 09:46 |
diplo | You've been a wealth of information, thanks willcooke ! Now I suppose after 2 weeks off I better actually do some work and then order all this stuff at lunchtime :) | 09:47 |
willcooke | diplo, drop me an email will@whizzy.org and I'll send you some more links | 09:48 |
diplo | Will do, thank you! | 09:48 |
DJones | Heh, I like this, shows the police have a sense of humour http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-35220682 | 09:48 |
diplo | Sent, did it now as I'll probably forget later | 09:49 |
willcooke | cool, give me a few days to collate everything and I'll reply | 09:50 |
diplo | Sure no rush, you've given me loads to start with, thanks again | 09:55 |
davmor2 | JamesTait: a cheeky one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYluMAO1b7Y | 10:26 |
JamesTait | davmor2, your record player is on the wrong speed. 😉 | 10:36 |
JamesTait | Also not sure what it has to do with Braille, but wotevs. 😝 | 10:36 |
davmor2 | JamesTait: the line "feel your way" :) | 10:37 |
davmor2 | JamesTait: told you it was cheeky :) | 10:38 |
JamesTait | davmor2, tenuous at best.... | 10:38 |
JamesTait | But it's the first day back after two weeks off, so I'll cut you some slack. 😉 | 10:38 |
brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:45 |
bashrc | morning | 11:08 |
diplo | Whilst I'm asking questions today, anyone recommend a cheap / half decent UPS for a small business, only going to need to run a small nas / router / switch and be able to alert me in some way | 11:12 |
davmor2 | JamesTait: I guess there is Sam Fox and Touch me or aha and the sun always shines on tv (lots of touchy's in that ;) ) | 11:31 |
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bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 12:54 |
bigcalm | Glad I bought an Ubuntu phone way back when, even if I didn't use it afterwards. Managed to brick my android phone last night. Ubuntu phone to the rescue! | 12:56 |
bigcalm | popey: is there a way to turn off all haptic feedback? As much as I've managed to disable, there are still instances where some apps use it | 12:59 |
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zmoylan-pi | you always need a backup phone | 13:07 |
ahayzen | bigcalm, have you toggled the "Other vibrations" switch in System Settings->Sound then right at the bottom? | 13:12 |
bigcalm | ahayzen: yes, which killed off a lot of vibrations. But some apps are still buzzing at me | 13:15 |
ahayzen | ugh, i seem to remember reading a bug somewhere about that :-/ | 13:16 |
ahayzen | bigcalm, which particular places continue vibrating? | 13:18 |
ahayzen | bigcalm, seems it might be bug 1433590 | 13:20 |
lubotu3 | bug 1433590 in usensord (Ubuntu) "apparmor dbus denial for org.freedesktop.Accounts and make Other vibrations work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1433590 | 13:20 |
bigcalm | ahayzen: Sudoku (by Ubuntu Core App Developers), the menu icon causes a buzz | 13:21 |
ahayzen | bigcalm, OK, yeah i suspect it is that bug as there was a similar bug in clock (bug 1482282) which was then marked as a duplicate to the one above | 13:22 |
lubotu3 | bug 1433590 in usensord (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1482282 apparmor dbus denial for org.freedesktop.Accounts and make Other vibrations work" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1433590 | 13:22 |
bigcalm | ahayzen: ah, good. Glad that it's an known issue then | 13:23 |
bigcalm | Thanks | 13:24 |
ahayzen | no problem, looks like that is targeted for OTA10 :-) | 13:26 |
bigcalm | Is it possible to have longer than 4 digit unlock codes? :) | 13:34 |
bigcalm | Amusing that the current OTA is 8.5 | 13:35 |
popey | yes, you can set a passphrase | 13:37 |
popey | of a longer length | 13:37 |
popey | I would have preferred if the OTA was called 8½ | 13:38 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: you can cut each digit into quarter if you tape x's to your glasses then you have 16 bits of numbers, otherwise use a password as popey says :) | 13:52 |
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diddledan | gooooood moooorning vietnam! | 14:24 |
diddledan | I haven't seen that in agea | 14:24 |
diddledan | ages | 14:24 |
zmoylan-pi | robin williams classic... | 14:25 |
diddledan | so I may have some work around the corner for the new year (after the nice xmas present of losing my last job :-) | 14:28 |
zmoylan-pi | the commute will suit so... | 14:29 |
diddledan | lol | 14:29 |
bigcalm | Wakka wakka | 14:29 |
diddledan | not what I meant :-p | 14:29 |
* zmoylan-pi pictures diddledan turning up for work in pjs, slippers clutching half finished bowl of cornflakes... | 14:29 | |
diddledan | haha | 14:29 |
zmoylan-pi | penguin slippers... | 14:30 |
diddledan | "around the corner" == coming soon | 14:30 |
diddledan | TUX SLIPPERS?! | 14:30 |
diddledan | :-op | 14:30 |
zmoylan-pi | http://www.amazon.com/Pillow-Pets-Penguin-Slippers-Small/dp/B007JN8CLK%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q%26tag%3Dduckduckgo-d-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB007JN8CLK | 14:30 |
zmoylan-pi | feck it, do the commute dressed that way... guaranteed to get a seat to yourself... :-) | 14:37 |
diddledan | lol. well this new job will be remote (new boss is currently in Japan, and has been travelling the past 5 years) | 14:42 |
diddledan | means I can sit in my dressing-gown :-p | 14:43 |
diddledan | o_O perfect.org | 14:44 |
daftykins | O_O | 14:44 |
diddledan | ello daftykins | 14:45 |
daftykins | hi sir | 14:46 |
daftykins | HNY to thee | 14:46 |
diddledan | danke | 14:47 |
daftykins | mmm more phone surgery calls today, got a blackberry screen to go swap | 14:47 |
diddledan | yeesh | 14:47 |
daftykins | it amuses me that the ebay sellers sell the screens with the official logo but have to cover it with some gunk to avoid getting in trouble | 14:48 |
popey | need to get a new screen for my mx4 | 14:57 |
popey | annoyingly hard to get the screen off the current device | 14:57 |
popey | might take it to local phone shoppe and ask them to do it | 14:58 |
zmoylan-pi | get a coffee in neighbouring shop while you wait... | 15:02 |
daftykins | :> | 15:04 |
daftykins | i've heard of 3+ people that want iPhone 6 models sorted now, so careless these folk ;) | 15:04 |
diddledan | daftykins, fix my shoot | 15:05 |
zmoylan-pi | if you sit on public transport and look around you see a lot of smartphones in use with cracked screens | 15:05 |
diddledan | zmoylan-pi, yeah, I cringe | 15:05 |
daftykins | diddledan: i was unaware your shoot was broken sir | 15:05 |
diddledan | daftykins, fix everyone's shoot | 15:06 |
davmor2 | popey: what did you do to it | 15:06 |
davmor2 | popey: I'm not sure how you manage to destroy so many phones ;) | 15:06 |
popey | I don't really | 15:07 |
diddledan | davmor2, he doesn't destroy any higher percentage, it's just that he has so many more phones | 15:07 |
popey | Expressed as a proportion of how many phones I have | 15:07 |
popey | I cracked my 4s, cracked my nexus 4, and cracked my mx4 | 15:07 |
popey | PATTERN! | 15:07 |
diddledan | 4's must be easily breakable | 15:07 |
davmor2 | popey: so no more 4's they're unlucky for you :) | 15:08 |
popey | all just cracks, no catastrophes | 15:08 |
diddledan | cat's ass trophy? | 15:08 |
zmoylan-pi | some people are just careless... :-) https://www.facebook.com/1644487285840108/videos/1653632858258884/ | 15:09 |
daftykins | see i just find that guy stupid | 15:13 |
daftykins | even though it's clearly staged :P | 15:13 |
zmoylan-pi | i'm ok with that when there's pain involved... :-) | 15:13 |
daftykins | still can't believe this blackberry screen was £8.50 o0 | 15:14 |
zmoylan-pi | some of the parts for phones are peanuts, especially if they ordered millions and the sales never happened :-) | 15:15 |
daftykins | must have come from the two Ronnies grocery store | 15:15 |
zmoylan-pi | fork handles? | 15:15 |
daftykins | the very same | 15:15 |
zmoylan-pi | i still meet people who have never seen that... | 15:15 |
diddledan | that guy is a mormon | 15:16 |
zmoylan-pi | they're replaced stimulating beverages with raw leccy :-) | 15:16 |
* diddledan stimulates | 15:18 | |
diddledan | ooh, I just remembered silent witness is on tonight | 15:19 |
daftykins | that's an old one right o0 | 15:19 |
* diddledan like that show | 15:19 | |
diddledan | daftykins, new episodes | 15:19 |
daftykins | what a gloomy day | 15:20 |
* diddledan glooms | 15:20 | |
diddledan | is that a verb? | 15:20 |
daftykins | pass | 15:22 |
SuperMatt | google suggests yes | 15:25 |
zmoylan-pi | yeah... but an american site checking your english... | 15:27 |
SuperMatt | I kind that google tends to be quite good at finding definitions because it sources them from multiple locations | 15:43 |
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diddledan | wow, mains voltage just popped over 251V | 18:09 |
diddledan | my UPS had to switch into voltage-regulation mode | 18:09 |
zmoylan-pi | as if everyone had switched off the christmas tree at once... :-) | 18:14 |
diddledan | and millions of voices all cried out | 18:15 |
diddledan | and then disappeared | 18:16 |
diddledan | were silenced** | 18:16 |
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MooDoo | evening all | 20:09 |
brobostigon | evening MooDoo | 20:13 |
diddledan | m00 | 20:21 |
popey | yo | 20:29 |
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diddledan | yoyo | 20:31 |
diddledan | Guest84409, you broke it | 20:32 |
daftykins | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r4xai3xjfx0ennk/AACXB79DA9gow6GTJOT5TQt4a?dl=0 | 20:33 |
daftykins | :D | 20:33 |
daftykins | one disassembled blackberry | 20:33 |
diddledan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dmhF1rqaZk | 20:34 |
daftykins | odd, client texts to say he lost his broadband and dial tone... now it's mystically come back minutes later :D | 20:46 |
andylockran | diplo - just seen your reference to me in your earlier conversation with willcooke | 20:50 |
andylockran | at the moment going to work off running the third-party stuff via mqtt | 20:51 |
andylockran | evening all | 20:51 |
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MooDoo | diddledan: bloody internet, virgin are being a bit pants lately | 21:03 |
diddledan | yeah, my virgin box keeps disconnecting itself very regularly (sometimes every hour, but not predictable) | 21:04 |
daftykins | if it's come in with the weather, wouldn't hurt to check your connections | 21:04 |
andylockran | sky have been a bit dodgy on the ol' broadband over Xmas | 21:05 |
andylockran | down about 5 hours between 24th and 3rd | 21:05 |
MooDoo | it's been unbeleivable over the last few weeks, I'm hoping it's to do with all their upgrades | 21:06 |
daftykins | could be | 21:07 |
diddledan | no-one be sick on tuesday next week | 22:27 |
diddledan | doctors are taking the day off | 22:27 |
daftykins | D: | 22:28 |
daftykins | but they can't! | 22:28 |
dogmatic69 | Damn, I already booked that day off sick. | 22:28 |
diddledan | reminds of "Carry on at your convenience" | 22:28 |
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mapps | hewwwo | 23:01 |
daftykins | o/ | 23:02 |
mapps | doctors always whining..but they know it long hours | 23:03 |
mapps | and when they complain about pay...its just at the start the pay sucks? | 23:05 |
mapps | i dislike striking.where does it end..give in then down the line..strike again | 23:07 |
mapps | in any industry | 23:07 |
zmoylan-pi | striking is the workers way of been listened to | 23:08 |
mapps | i get that, but if people give in whats to stop them doing it again | 23:09 |
mapps | blackmail | 23:09 |
mapps | i get its about being litened to and dont have an alternative ..but still | 23:09 |
zmoylan-pi | the only reason we have workers rights is because workers fought for them | 23:09 |
zmoylan-pi | there can and are strikes that seem selfish. that's when the strikers lose public support. makes the strike less successful if public are prepared to go elsewhere | 23:10 |
zmoylan-pi | except of course in industries that are monopolies or closed systems like medicine | 23:11 |
zmoylan-pi | but doctors and nurses are treated terribly for the most part. until they get to the later stages of their career when they have more options | 23:12 |
daftykins | *nod* | 23:12 |
daftykins | i have a fair few mates that are docs | 23:12 |
zmoylan-pi | i've seen doctors and nurses essentially hallucinating from lack of sleep. and having to have their less tired colleagues help them out | 23:13 |
daftykins | mmm i wouldn't even want to conduct surgery on a smartphone whilst sleep deprived ;) | 23:15 |
zmoylan-pi | unless it was winphone.... :-P | 23:16 |
daftykins | that's true! | 23:16 |
daftykins | that'd be put down ;) | 23:16 |
zmoylan-pi | the red headed step child of the phone industry... | 23:16 |
daftykins | XD | 23:16 |
zmoylan-pi | maybe a better way would be that industries like medicine or monopolies should have a non striking clause like the police but be allowed a work to rule or other partial strike methods | 23:17 |
zmoylan-pi | i.t. is a weird industry as it is nearly totally ununionised. and that is why bosses can get away with treating staff like crap. | 23:18 |
mapps | work time;[ | 23:25 |
daftykins | yay work | 23:25 |
NET||abuse | oh boy, trying to fix a 15.10 nvidia/optimus laptop which i tried using bumblebee on a while ago, i've just tried moving to the nvidia-355 and primus setup in the wiki. but it's not working :( | 23:55 |
NET||abuse | I get into unity but i get a no decorations session | 23:55 |
daftykins | seen lots of issues with that combo | 23:55 |
daftykins | try purging all bumble* nvidia* and trying nvidia-346 with nvidia-prime | 23:55 |
daftykins | which it should pull in auto due to deps | 23:55 |
daftykins | always double check with the guest session to rule out user config quirks too | 23:56 |
NET||abuse | hmm, will try that. | 23:56 |
NET||abuse | ok, guest session worked | 23:58 |
NET||abuse | how can i test what drivers etc are running? | 23:58 |
daftykins | /var/log/Xorg.0.log would state what was fired up on boot | 23:59 |
daftykins | no idea how to run something and work out what it's using though :( | 23:59 |
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