[00:17] <xixi> Anyone around here? I am having troubles from going from 5.3 to >5.4
[00:18] <Ben64> 5.3 what to 5.4 what
[00:18] <k1l_> version of what?
[00:18] <Bashing-om> xixi: In what ?
[00:18] <xixi> php
[00:18] <k1l_> which ubuntu exactly?
[00:18] <xixi> ive done: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ondrej/php5-oldstable and sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:18] <xixi> 12.05
[00:18] <xixi> i mean
[00:18] <xixi> 12.04
[00:18] <xixi> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[00:18] <xixi>  libapache2-mod-php5 : Depends: apache2-api-20120211
[00:18] <xixi>                        Depends: apache2 (>= 2.4)
[00:18] <xixi>                        Depends: php5-common (= 5.5.30+dfsg-1+deb.sury.org~precise+1) but 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.21 is installed
[00:18] <xixi> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[00:19] <daftykins> don't paste in here.
[00:19] <daftykins> !paste
[00:19] <Ben64> xixi: if you actually need a newer version of php, it's time to upgrade to ubuntu 14.04
[00:19] <[Mew2]> hey can anyone help me with a fail2ban question?
[00:20] <[Mew2]> 2016-01-04 00:03:15,670 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [openvpn] Ban 11.11.11.111
[00:20] <xixi> I don't want to go to 14.04 though
[00:20] <[Mew2]> 2016-01-04 00:03:22,682 fail2ban.actions: INFO   [openvpn] 11.11.11.111 already banned
[00:20] <[Mew2]> how can fail2ban see the connecting attempt after an ip has already been banned? doesnt it use the system firewall to ban, which is outside it?
[00:20] <xixi> Is there any way I can get to php 5.4 or greater
[00:20] <xixi> on 12.04?
[00:21] <Ben64> xixi: why don't you want to go to 14.04
[00:22] <xixi> I did and I felt lazy because there were some features that had changed
[00:22] <xheart> hi everyone.
[00:22] <[Mew2]> Ben64 hi
[00:22] <Ben64> xixi: doesn't make any sense
[00:22] <k1l_> xixi: there is no php5-common (= 5.5.30+dfsg-1+deb.sury.org~precise+1)    in that ppa
[00:22] <xixi> yes
[00:22] <xixi> I used ppa
[00:22] <xheart> can i create a usb stick with ubuntu 15.10 using my ubuntu 14.04lts?
[00:23] <xixi> k1l_: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ondrej/php5-oldstable
[00:23] <k1l_> xixi: no
[00:23] <xixi> k1l_: What do I do?
[00:23] <Ben64> xixi: upgrade to 14.04
[00:23] <Flannel> xixi: You could always compile it (but this isn't a good alternative).
[00:23] <anabain> xheart, yes, you need to download the 15.10 iso image
[00:23] <k1l_> xixi: please pastebin a "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" in a pastebin please
[00:23] <Flannel> xixi: Those are really your options.  Upgrade to 14.04 or compile.  It's unlikely that someone has packaged php5.4+ for 12.04
[00:24] <[Mew2]> k1l_ can you tell me please? ^^
[00:24] <xixi> !pastebin
[00:25] <brill564553> fa
[00:25] <xixi> k1l_: One moment.
[00:25] <xheart> i downloaded the 15.10, how do i create the usb with 15.10?
[00:26] <xixi> k1l_: http://pastebin.ca/3316078
[00:26] <Ben64> xheart: you can use dd to write the image directly to the device, which will delete anything on the usb
[00:26] <xheart> i am not using windows
[00:26] <k1l_> xixi: you got several ppas there. that are mixing the packages now
[00:26] <xheart> i just copy/paste the file to the usb?
[00:26] <xixi> How do I remove them?
[00:26] <Ben64> xheart: no that won't work. you can use a usb creator thing, the name of which escapes me currently
[00:27] <xheart> is that "dd" on the ubuntu softwrae center?
[00:27] <xixi> k1l_: Or just clean the list up?
[00:27] <k1l_> xixi: you got the php5 and php5-oldstable
[00:27] <daftykins> xheart: it's already installed
[00:27] <k1l_> xixi: choose one.
[00:27] <xixi> php5
[00:28] <k1l_> xixi: then use ppa-purge to get rid of that oldstable ppa again
[00:28] <k1l_> !ppapurge | xixi
[00:30] <anabain> xheart, if you're using 14.04 you only have to create a bootable usb stick using 15.10 iso image. there's an app designed to do so: startup disk creator (at least this is the name on kubuntu 15.10)
[00:31] <xixi> k1l_: Can I pm you?
[00:31] <k1l_> you can ask in here. so others can help too
[00:31] <xixi> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/install-ppa-purge-with-multi-arch.html
[00:31] <xheart> i have 14.04 ok so i need startup disk creator
[00:31] <xixi> I've followed that
[00:31] <xixi> it wont let me install
[00:31] <xixi> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[00:31] <Ben64> xheart: you could use dd, but startup disk creator should work too
[00:32] <anabain> xheart, try writing "usb" on your pc search engine
[00:32] <k1l_> ah right, you are on that old ubuntu that doesnt ship ppa-purge
[00:32] <xheart> i see the disk creator
[00:33] <xheart> i have also an empty 8 gb usb stick
[00:33] <anabain> xheart, good, run it and follow the instructions.
[00:33] <Flannel> k1l_: 12.04 has ppa-purge
[00:33] <Guy1524> hey guys, is there a way to disable optimus so that I can use multiple monitors?
[00:33] <k1l_> Flannel: oh, right
[00:34] <anabain> xheart, then create the usb stick by selecting the iso image and the right storage device (be careful about that)
[00:34] <xheart> cool, it started
[00:34] <xheart> ok i will
[00:35] <xheart> it is kind of slow
[00:35] <xixi> k1l_: I've update my source list
[00:35] <xixi> hold on
[00:35] <anabain> xheart, you'll have to wait a minute or so, and perhaps you'll be prompted to enter your password in order to be able to install the boot loader.
[00:35] <k1l_> xixi: you dont need a ppa for ppa-purge
[00:35] <anabain> xheart, yeahm be patient
[00:35] <xheart> yes. you are correct
[00:36] <xixi> k1l_: http://pastebin.ca/3316092
[00:36] <xixi> Check that now
[00:36] <xixi> What do I do next?
[00:36] <xixi> What are those .save files?
[00:38] <xixi> http://pastebin.ca/3316096
[00:38] <xixi> I don't get why it is still doing that even thouh ppa is gone
[00:38] <k1l_> xixi: please stop
[00:39] <k1l_> xixi: you used the wrong page (not the one the bot linked) to install ppa-purge. then you have your package system messed up using multiple PPAs that refer to same packages but in differen states.
[00:39] <xixi> U removed all the PPAs
[00:39] <xixi> I*
[00:40] <xixi> I'll be on later thx guys!
[00:40] <k1l_> ok, bye
[00:40] <Guest21984> hi
[00:40] <RepThis1> asd
[00:47] <AriesClan> http://www.filedropper.com/ariesstresstester Free ddos tool
[00:52] <xheart> failed to install the bootloader on the usb
[00:54] <xheart> i see it did install a few folders on the usb
[00:54] <[Mew2]> guys can someone help me pleasE?
[00:54] <[Mew2]> have a couple different questions
[00:55] <xheart> it installed folder boot, casper, dists, install, isolinux, pics,pool, preseed, .disk, md5sum.txt and readmediskdefines. will that be enough to install 15.10 on another pc?
[00:57] <anabain> xheart, most probably not
[00:57] <daftykins> xheart: are you trying to extract an ISO's contents onto a FAT formatted flash drive?
[00:57] <xheart> i did not format the usb
[00:57] <daftykins> then what are you using?
[00:58] <anabain> xheart, it's very strange. Startup disk creator is quite safe
[00:58] <daftykins> 'install' sounds like the wrong word
[00:58] <xheart> i erased the usb and started the disk creator,
[00:58] <xheart> iif i format the usb what format should i use?
[00:58] <OerHeks> what makes you think it did not install the bootloader?
[00:58] <daftykins> FAT32...
[00:59] <xheart> i got a window saying so
[01:00] <anabain> xheart, did you enter your passwd when prompted to do so, in the middle of the process?
[01:00] <xheart> yes
[01:00] <xheart> i see it is fat32 on gparted
[01:02] <anabain> xheart, you could try formating again using gparted, just in case
[01:02] <xheart> ok
[01:02] <anabain> xheart, then repeat the process
[01:03] <xheart> i do not see where i can format it
[01:06] <anabain> xheart, you have to right-click the partition info line and then select "format"
[01:07] <anabain> xheart, btw, I assume your 14.04 system is updated
[01:07] <xheart> it is not letting me, it is grey
[01:07] <xheart> yes i am using 14.04lts
[01:08] <anabain> xheart, first you have to unmount it
[01:09] <anabain> xheart, but 14.04 has also updates, you should perform this at the terminal: sudo apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:09] <xheart> the pc i want to install 15.10 had windows but i only want ubuntu
[01:10] <xheart> this pc runs great with 14.04lts
[01:11] <xheart> ok it did format!
[01:11] <anabain> xheart, good
[01:11] <anabain> now you can wipe W$ and install 15.10
[01:13] <xheart> ok i started the process again. it is a 8gb but it only shows 7.5gb
[01:13] <anabain> xheart, anyway, it's advisable to perform updates on your 14.04 system. Many of them are security/bug related.
[01:13] <xheart> this pc says the system is up to date
[01:13] <anabain> xheart, good
[01:14] <xheart> or should i check throught the terminal?
[01:14] <anabain> xheart, don't worry about the 7.5gb
[01:14] <xheart> ok
[01:14] <anabain> xheart, it's normal. Formatted drives show less space.
[01:15] <anabain> xheart, if your system says it's up to date, then you should trust it.
[01:15] <anabain> xheart, but you can always check it at the terminal
[01:15] <QuestionMark> hi
[01:16] <anabain> xheart, anyway, now you can try again the startup disk creator
[01:17] <xheart> now it says Could not read from /tmp/tmp0oa9pe1k
[01:17] <QuestionMark> i'm install brother hl 1112 laser printer, i can see the printer in the print manager, but the printer make only white paper
[01:17] <Bashing-om> xheart: anabain md5sum the .iso ?
[01:18] <xheart> An uncaught exception was raised:
[01:18] <xheart> [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/media/xheart/799A-EA12/casper'
[01:18] <anabain> Bashing-om, you're suggesting the image is corrupted or not properly downloaded
[01:18] <anabain> ?
[01:19] <Bashing-om> anabain: Possible, never hurts to check .
[01:24] <xheart> i started the install again on the usb stick 20% completed
[01:24] <anabain> Bashing-om, and where's the md5sum to check against?
[01:25] <EriC^^> !hashes
[01:25] <daftykins> it's not an install
[01:26] <Bashing-om> anabain: All of them from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes .
[01:27] <anabain> Bashing-om, s/he'll need to check this: http://releases.ubuntu.com/wily/MD5SUMS  right?
[01:28] <blahdeblah> Any charm authors here?  What's the name of the API that charms.reactive uses to send data between layers?  Is it charms.reactive.bus?
[01:28] <Dylan____> Hey guys
[01:29] <zacckthemenace> Hello  people
[01:29] <zacckthemenace> my screen flickers after a 15.10 install
[01:29] <zacckthemenace> can anyone help
[01:30] <Bashing-om> anabain: "md5sum </path/file.iso> "
[01:30] <daftykins> zacckthemenace: fully updated? what graphics hardware?
[01:31] <anabain> xheart, let's check if you've downloaded a proper iso image for 15.10. Open this link on your browser:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/wily/MD5SUMS
[01:31] <Bashing-om> anabain: The result of the command as compared to your link http://releases.ubuntu.com/wily/MD5SUMS .
[01:31] <anabain> Bashing-om, yeah, thanx
[01:32] <xheart> it just said system policy .... i entered the password and cancelled the installation
[01:32] <anabain> xheart, you mean the process has been aborted when entering your password?
[01:33] <xheart> yes
[01:35] <Li> how to make vivid beep when battery charge rich 10%
[01:35] <anabain> well, in that case you could burn the iso image to a dvd, or use the dd command at the terminal. Perhaps you're having trouble because of a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1446646
[01:36] <SuperDuck> hmm
[01:36] <anabain> xheart, I'm not sure, but you'll save time if you try another method
[01:37] <xheart> true, i do not have a dvd burner
[01:37] <xheart> only cd burner
[01:38] <anabain> xheart, in that case you can try what is said in comment #11 in the link about the bug
[01:38] <MooseGuts> Hi I am having some trouble getting sound to work on my toshiba chromebook 2.
[01:38] <xheart> ok. thank you for help, we tried.
[01:38] <zacckthemenace> part
[01:39] <MooseGuts> Like the files play but no sound come out.
[01:39] <MooseGuts> I plug in headphones and I get static/garble.
[01:39] <daftykins> is it actually ubuntu on the chromebook or something like chrubuntu / chroot methods?
[01:39] <MooseGuts> This is native not chroot
[01:40] <MooseGuts> Pure regular ubuntu. Not chrubuntu.
[01:40] <Tojil> nice, I'm back
[01:40] <MooseGuts> I followed. A tutorial for getting sound to work and it still doesn't work.
[01:40] <MooseGuts> Which included grabbing some intel firmware and an asound.state file.
[01:41] <anabain> xheart, be *extremely* careful about determining the /dev/sdX . Make sure that you choose the one that matches your actual USB stick. If you get it wrong, you'll ruin all data on the mistaken device. You've been warned.
[01:41] <MooseGuts> I think the asound.state file must be for a different model of toshiba chromebook 2. Mine is cb35-b33330
[01:42] <MooseGuts> xheart: on the commandline run lsblk without the usb stick, insert the stick and run lsblk again. The change will reflect what your stick is called.
[01:43] <anabain> MooseGuts, he has left!
[01:43] <MooseGuts> aww. Well anyone want to help me get sound working?
[01:43] <MooseGuts> I can play cmus all day long and watch the song play but hear silence.
[01:43] <MooseGuts> And no its not muted.
[01:44] <anabain> anabain, sorry, no idea.
[01:44] <anabain> MooseGuts, sorry, no idea.
[01:46] <MooseGuts> Anyone else have any idea?
[01:47] <Bashing-om> !sound | MooseGuts
[01:48] <MooseGuts> I have done that so far. Verified nothing is muted in alsamixer and pavucontrol. I can see that the file is playing just fine but not a peep comes out.
[01:49] <daftykins> aplay used to have a speakertest prog to test your outputs
[01:49] <MooseGuts> I am on a baytrail chipped intel chromebook made by toshiba..
[01:49] <MooseGuts> Silence on the aplay test.
[01:50] <daftykins> you have to select a given output
[01:50] <daftykins> listed via aplay -L or -l
[01:50] <daftykins> audio isn't really my thing...
[01:51] <MooseGuts> It detects the card.
[01:51] <MooseGuts> and the hdmi card.
[01:52] <MooseGuts> but no sound plays.
[01:52] <MooseGuts> Have tried alsa force-unload force-reload etc
[01:55] <Li> how to make vivid beep when battery charge reaches 10%?
[01:56] <daftykins> something acpi related (:
[02:10] <Eirikr> hello all :) I just now changed the driver from the open-source ati driver to fglrx (in an attempt of speeding up things a bit) and then realizing it wa a bit slower i changed back to the open source graphics driver and now everything is suuuuuuper slow! what can i do?
[02:10] <daftykins> confirm your method of switching - also what is your test for defining speed?
[02:12] <Eirikr> @daftykins method of switching was with the additional drivers application that follows and the test was to check if the slowness (and jaggyness) of firefox had something to do with the graphics driver
[02:12] <Eirikr> rebotted twice
[02:14] <daftykins> ok so desktop effects and so on
[02:14] <daftykins> well, you can double check with "sudo apt-get purge fglrx* " but i doubt any change will occur
[02:14] <uchiha> oi
[02:14] <uchiha> hi
[02:15] <Eirikr> no .. .not installed so not removes
[02:15] <Eirikr> removed*
[02:15] <uchiha> lol
[02:17] <uchiha> Moshi Moshi
[02:17] <Eirikr> any further clue?
[02:18] <Eirikr> on 15.10 btw
[02:19] <daftykins> /var/log/Xorg.0.log might help
[02:20] <Eirikr> not so crafty i can figure out that one, can you have a look at it?
[02:21] <daftykins> throw it on paste.ubuntu.com
[02:22] <Eirikr> thanks http://paste.ubuntu.com/14396335/
[02:24] <daftykins> oh wow yeah, FBDEV is in use because radeon isn't working
[02:26] <rodarmor> How can I install python2 on Ubuntu 15.10?
[02:27] <uchiha> '-'
[02:28] <Eirikr> so physical error?
[02:29] <daftykins> Eirikr: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[02:29] <Eirikr> no
[02:32] <daftykins> Eirikr: anyway something has disabled modesetting so fglrx's damage has not been undone
[02:32] <daftykins> i'm struggling to find an answer however
[02:34] <Dylan____> Excuse me
[02:34] <Dylan____> Can someone help me
[02:35] <Eirikr> ok.. im also reading about it as we speak
[02:35] <Eirikr> about modestting i mean
[02:35] <Dylan____> I keep getting annoying cut outs on my driver i believe i think its because of my nvidia drivers my firefox always lags and its never responds causing me to shut down my laptop
[02:36] <daftykins> Eirikr: you definitely ran my earlier purge command with the * after fglrx right?
[02:36] <daftykins> sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[02:37] <Eirikr> no.. did not see the * but doing it now.. sorry
[02:38] <daftykins> no problemo
[02:39] <Eirikr> done deleting stuff will reboot and come back
[02:41] <Eirikr> that did it!
[02:41] <Eirikr> wooooo!
[02:41] <Eirikr> thanks!!!!
[02:41] <daftykins> \o/
[02:41] <Dylan____> Hey daftykins are you free atm?
[02:42] <Borg__> hello darlings.
[02:43] <Eirikr> wish I could give you something for the help daftykins
[02:43] <somsip> !cookie | daftykins
[02:43] <daftykins> Eirikr: feel free to donate to an open source project ;) my fave is Kodi
[02:44] <Dylan____> Quick question guys can android be mounted innubuntu
[02:44] <Eirikr> i will
[02:47] <agrippaz> Dylan____, what do you mean
[02:48] <Dylan____>  Like usb storage
[02:48] <Eirikr> i have done it many times
[02:49] <Eirikr> @Dylan____ just plug and play
[02:49] <Eirikr> for me at least (unless there is something i don't se
[03:06] <JeDa> LOL
[03:08] <jvava> 不知道怎麼回事兒，我的輸入法總是顯示繁體字，請問怎麼能改回簡體字呢，我的系統時debian jessie, fcitx
[03:08] <OerHeks> jvava, english only please, you find jessie support in #debian
[03:11] <jvava> ok, OerHeks, but i cant describe my question in english, and i know they who know chinese like stay here, #ubuntu
[03:12] <OerHeks> try #ubuntu-cn for chinese
[03:12] <jvava> ok, thanks you
[03:12] <OerHeks> yw
[03:14] <jvava> and i resolve it by press ctrl+shift, just because i use an improper im before.
[03:23] <regedit> do any of you have /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/MokManager.efi ? if not, why do i? is it safe to delete?
[03:24] <regedit> i used to not have this option in my Grub menu, but a boot-repair threw it in there
[03:41] <[Mew2]> how do i view all processes that are running with root/sudo privelidges?
[03:42] <piedcipher> [Mew2] ps -U root
[03:43] <[Mew2]> thanks piedcipher
[03:44] <piedcipher> [Mew2] might be ps -u root, I think "U" is for user ID while u is for username
[03:45] <EriC^^> [Mew2]: according to the man page, ps -U root -u root u
[03:45] <EriC^^> shows it for both real and effective user id
[03:46] <piedcipher> Than EriC^^
[03:46] <piedcipher> *thanks
[03:46] <[Mew2]> thanks EriC^^
[03:46] <EriC^^> no problem
[03:49] <regedit> EriC^^: would you mind checking real quick?
[03:49] <regedit> for (default) existence of /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/MokManager.efi ? if you dont have it, why do i? is it safe to delete?
[03:50] <regedit> i suspect it might be boot-repair's unwanted contribution
[03:50] <EriC^^> no that's standard
[03:50] <regedit> oh its always there? hm
[03:50] <EriC^^> yeah
[03:51] <regedit> so what did boot-repair do to stick it my grub menu, and how can i undo that?
[03:51] <EriC^^> what's the problem anyways?
[03:51] <EriC^^> that'd be the xx_custom file it added to /etc/grub.d
[03:51] <regedit> it did so twice actually, with different capitalizations
[03:51] <EriC^^> i've seen it lately add like 10 efi entries and whatnot sometimes
[03:51] <regedit> EriC^^: just annoying grub clutter...
[03:51] <regedit> ah see exactly
[03:51] <regedit> so its a known issue then
[03:52] <[Mew2]> hmm i have like 40 processes running as root on a fresh install
[03:52] <EriC^^> well i saw it with a user or 2 i think recently
[03:52] <OneM_Industries> Hey, anyone know of a program that I can use to stress/test my GPU?
[03:52] <OneM_Industries> I am beginning to suspect that it may be wobbling on the edge.
[03:52] <EriC^^> [Mew2]: ps -U root ... | wc -l gives me 156
[03:53] <[Mew2]> ok so its normal then, thanks
[03:53] <piedcipher> OneM_Industries try this: yes > /dev/null &
[03:53] <OneM_Industries> Sigh.
[03:54] <OneM_Industries> GPU, not CPU.
[03:54] <piedcipher> whoops, sorry
[03:55] <regedit> EriC^^: ok what is there by default in this xx_custom? i have 4 (2x duplicates) in there now
[03:55] <OneM_Industries> I actually kind of hope it is a bit wobbly, as I have been wanting a new one for a while.
[03:55] <piedcipher> OneM_Industries try GpuTest: http://www.geeks3d.com/20121113/gputest-0-2-0-cross-platform-opengl-benchmark-furmark-lands-on-linux-and-os-x/
[03:59] <regedit> EriC^^: is it safe to remove those menuentries from that file?
[04:00] <yuken> So, going about making my own distribution of Ubuntu; not sure if I can discuss this here. How would I do so?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> !info remastersys | yuken
[04:00] <Ivoah2> I've just installed Ubuntu 15.10 on my MacBook Pro, and the screen backlight keys don't do anything.
[04:01] <OneM_Industries> Ouch.
[04:02] <OneM_Industries> Well, that was highly informative and sad.
[04:02] <OneM_Industries> So, my GPU has the power of a pile of wet noodles.
[04:02] <regedit> you should have stayed with the expensive company Ivoah2
[04:02] <regedit> jk
[04:02] <EriC^^> regedit: it depends what it's doing
[04:02]  * regedit not being helpful
[04:02] <EriC^^> regedit: upload /boot/grub/grub.cfg and /etc/grub.d/*_custom
[04:03] <EriC^^> *_custom files aren't there by default
[04:03] <regedit> EriC^^: what might be a command to output all that (to pastebinit) in one go?
[04:03] <regedit> some magic cat command must exist..
[04:03] <EriC^^> cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/grub.d/*_custom
[04:03] <EriC^^> cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/grub.d/*_custom | pastebinit
[04:04] <regedit> nice, leme try that
[04:06] <regedit> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14396943/ i believe line 323, 345, and 350 are the custom concats
[04:08] <EriC^^> regedit: what do you use to boot ubuntu right now?
[04:09] <regedit> EriC^^: the regular Ubuntu option all the way on top, sometimes i enter the 2nd option menu for fun or recovery. i even used the memtest a fw times. i'm just annoyed at these other ones that appeared
[04:09] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo chmod -x /etc/grub.d/25_custom
[04:09] <EriC^^> then update-grub
[04:10] <regedit> EriC^^: is it terrible if i move it out of that folder altogether? i've been trying to (backup, but) remove all the trash remining from removing windows and repairing ubuntu
[04:11] <EriC^^> it's ok
[04:11] <regedit> k...
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Yuken: there are few packages to make own ubuntu distribution, remastersys and i forgot the other one
[04:15] <Ivoah2> so, does anyone have any idea why I can't change my backlight?
[04:16] <malimbar> Ivoah2, driver issue is my first guess. Well, my second, the first is that you have a wierd setting somewhere
[04:22] <[Mew2]> why is it better to use ports below 1024?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> [Mew2]: ask the ##networking guys whats reccomended mate
[04:22] <[Mew2]> ok thanks
[04:25] <xixi> hey
[04:26] <xixi> Im running 12.04 ubuntu, and im trying to do a sudo apt-get upgrae
[04:27] <xixi> http://pastebin.com/X9wBcFXC
[04:27] <xixi> Can anyone help me with that, please?
[04:27] <Ivoah2> xixi: do what it says
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> xixi: you added ppa's yourself?
[04:27] <Ivoah2> sudo apt-get install -f
[04:28] <xixi> Okay, I did that, I want to get from php 5.3 to 5.4
[04:28] <uchiha> You game GTA Samp?
[04:28] <xixi> How do I do that?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> xixi: its not reccomended to install package versions that dont belong to your ubuntu version
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> xixi: uninstall all ppa's from system first
[04:29] <xixi> How do I do that?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | xixi
[04:29] <xixi> Sorry, so many noob questions I typically don't work with servers, so I appreciate it.
[04:29] <uchiha> '-'
[04:29] <xixi> Where do I find all my PPAs?
[04:30] <uchiha> Big Xixi '-'
[04:31] <xixi> I just installed ppa-purge
[04:31] <uchiha> Whats game your have in the Ubuntu?
[04:31] <xixi> I don't understand uchiha
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !sources | xixi
[04:32] <uchiha> LOL
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | uchiha
[04:37] <xixi> http://pastebin.com/mPwVAYe3
[04:38] <uchiha> But are genial. '0'
[04:38] <xixi> Do I need to update apache as well?
[04:38] <uchiha> Yeah!!!
[04:38] <xixi> okay :)
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> !info php5 precise
[04:38] <xixi> ty
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> xixi: this si the version you need
[04:39] <xixi> php -v
[04:39] <xixi> PHP 5.4.45-2+deb.sury.org~precise+2 (cli) (built: Oct  4 2015 16:12:54)
[04:39] <xixi> I got a new version now :)
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> xixi: again...thats not reccomended to do
[04:39] <uchiha> Who is my friendzinhu? :(
[04:39] <regedit> did Eric^^ leave?
[04:40] <xixi> Why is it not recommended to do?
[04:41] <xixi> http://www.ivankrizsan.se/2014/07/17/upgrading-apache-http-server-2-2-to-2-4-on-ubuntu-12-04/ << is that a bad idea?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !latest | xixi this is why
[04:43] <xixi> So how do I backtrack what I did, and go back to 5.3?
[04:43] <xixi> Since I may have screwed things up?
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> xixi: you added a ppa or installed manual, so you need to remove that or purge ppa's
[04:47] <uid0> !ppa
[04:47] <uid0> 2legit
[04:47] <xixi> got it to work
[04:47] <xixi> thanks :)
[04:47] <xixi> I got it back to 5.3 for the time being
[04:47] <xixi> So what your saying is change mydist?
[04:51] <x23> how to download several mega links from ubuntu?
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> xixi: yes, higher versions of packages==> newer ubuntu version
[05:12] <MagicWizard> what is the best irc client for *buntu?
[05:12] <MagicWizard>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.3-3.dmz.2-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "wily" 15.10 ** CPU: 8 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         950  @ 3.07GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,60GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,8GiB, 56,8% free ** Disk: Total: 229,1GiB, 5,3% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GK106 [GeForce GTX 660] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe
[05:12] <MagicWizard> Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 6h 59m 22s **
[05:13] <Myrtti> !best
[05:13] <MagicWizard> !best
[05:13] <MagicWizard> ?
[05:14] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[05:14] <jay_> hello
[05:14] <MagicWizard> ok which is ur fav?
[05:14] <MagicWizard> hello :)
[05:14] <Myrtti> MagicWizard: there usually are no "best" applications, only applications that suit someone's use case
[05:15] <MagicWizard> thats obvious
[05:15] <Myrtti> mine isn't yours, etc
[05:15] <jay_> hello how to find PPA username and ppa name
[05:15] <jay_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise
[05:15] <uibertiz> Yeah Myrtti MagicWizard
[05:15] <jay_> i went here
[05:16] <jay_> hi people
[05:16] <jay_> hello how to find PPA username and ppa name
[05:16] <uibertiz> Myrtti: excuse u.
[05:16] <jay_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise
[05:17] <jay_> hi magicwizard
[05:17] <MagicWizard> hi :)
[05:18] <xixi> CAn anyone help with this: http://pastebin.com/P8aYvdqi
[05:18] <jay_> magicwizard : im trying to add PPA in ubuntu
[05:18] <jay_> magicwizard : im trying to add from here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise
[05:18] <jay_> how do i get the username and ppa name
[05:18] <q0_0p> i installed ubuntu on an SDcard how to get it to boot?  on a macbook pro
[05:19] <q0_0p> not sure if anyone has tried
[05:19] <MagicWizard> sudo add-apt-repository ppa
[05:19] <Dylan____> Guys
[05:19] <jay_> yes but
[05:19] <Dylan____> We got someone thst needs help on ubuntu ops
[05:19] <MagicWizard> oh
[05:19] <MagicWizard> it depends
[05:19] <jay_> how do i get the ppa user name and ppa to add via add-apt-repository
[05:19] <MagicWizard> which program do you want to install?
[05:19] <jay_> i want to g++ 4.7
[05:20] <MagicWizard> it usually says on launchpad somewhere
[05:20] <jay_> or g++ 4.6
[05:20] <MagicWizard> ok gimme sec
[05:20] <jay_> ok , i searched i.m unable to find
[05:21] <MagicWizard> put: sudo apt-get install g++-4.7
[05:21] <MagicWizard> its in default repos
[05:21] <jay_> im using ubuntu precise 12.04.5
[05:22] <jay_> in repos its g++4.6
[05:22] <jay_> but im unable to get from repos
[05:22] <nchambers> oh man thats old
[05:22] <MagicWizard> newest its like 5.2 sth isnt it?
[05:22] <nchambers> 5.3.0
[05:22] <xixi> Please help: ng ubuntu precise 12.04.5
[05:22] <nchambers> just built it the other day :D
[05:23] <xixi> I mean: http://pastebin.com/vRdf2Xdp
[05:23] <jay_> i dont know exactly but its around 5 sries only
[05:23] <MagicWizard> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test
[05:23] <MagicWizard> sudo apt-get update
[05:23] <MagicWizard> sudo apt-get install gcc-4.7
[05:23] <MagicWizard> i think?
[05:23] <MagicWizard> source: https://askubuntu.com/questions/113291/how-do-i-install-gcc-4-7
[05:24] <jay_> hmm i will give a try now
[05:24] <MagicWizard> sudo apt-get install g++-4.7 **
[05:24] <jay_> ok, can u help me find, where to get offical PPA usernames and PPA names
[05:24] <jay_> so that i can add according to my need
[05:25] <MagicWizard> ive just googled that
[05:25] <MagicWizard> usually if you want to find some package it comes with somebody's ppa
[05:25] <jay_> yes you are right
[05:25] <jay_> but in launchpad
[05:26] <jay_> i cant get a the username:ppa name
[05:26] <MagicWizard> i dont get it
[05:27] <MagicWizard> do you want to create your own ppa?
[05:27] <jay_> no no
[05:27] <MagicWizard> maybe somebody else can help you
[05:27] <jay_> hmm ok
[05:28] <MagicWizard> https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/ubuntu/stable
[05:28] <MagicWizard> ppa:elementary-os/stable
[05:28] <MagicWizard> elementary is user
[05:28] <MagicWizard> and stable is ppa name
[05:29] <jay_> yes yes i want like this
[05:29] <jay_> the page has clearly given username and ppa
[05:29] <jay_> im unable to find other usernames and ppa
[05:30] <ForSpareParts> I installed the fglrx drivers (using the Additional Drivers menu) and then reverted to radeon — now my display is locked at a low resolution, and it’s identified by Ubuntu as a “built-in display.” Anybody know how to fix this?
[05:30] <jay_> its ok
[05:30] <jay_> may be im seeing wrong or searching wrong
[05:30] <jay_> i will check again
[05:30] <MagicWizard> what program do you want to use?
[05:30] <jay_> thank you MagicWizard
[05:31] <jay_> that one only g++ 4.6
[05:31] <jay_> gcc 4.6 is there but g++ in default precise ubuntu
[05:31] <MagicWizard> @ForSpareParts sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:amd64 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:amd64 xserver-xorg-core
[05:31] <MagicWizard> try this
[05:32] <MagicWizard> maybe you are missing something
[05:32] <jay_> ok trying
[05:32] <jay_> actually im not able to compile im getting make errors
[05:32] <jay_> make [1] gcc command not found
[05:32] <jay_> but when i check dpkg -l | grep gcc its showing gcc-4.6-base is there
[05:33] <MagicWizard> gcc --version
[05:33] <MagicWizard> :P
[05:33] <jay_> its not working
[05:33] <ForSpareParts> MagicWizard: OK, I did that. Should I just reboot? Or is there another way to get it to take effect?
[05:33] <jay_> it says gcc can be found in following packages
[05:33] <jay_> gcc and pentium builder
[05:33] <MagicWizard> just reboot it
[05:34] <jay_> when i do apt-cache policy gcc-4.6-base it says it is installed
[05:34] <ForSpareParts> kj
[05:34] <ForSpareParts> *k
[05:34] <MagicWizard> hope it will work
[05:34] <jay_> i will try now
[05:35] <jay_> you know i even cant go apt-get install build-essential
[05:35] <jay_> but gcc4.6-base comes default with ubuntu precise right ?
[05:35] <ForSpareParts> MagicWizard: Sweet, it’s back to normal. Thanks for your help!
[05:36] <MagicWizard> no problem :)
[05:36] <MagicWizard> i dont know jay its very old
[05:36] <jay_> ok ok
[05:36] <MagicWizard> what is wrong with the newest gcc?
[05:37] <jay_> i even dont know gcc at all
[05:37] <jay_> to go in depth
[05:37] <jay_> i was trying to compile openssl
[05:37] <MagicWizard> so use the newest one
[05:38] <jay_> so im getting make error
[05:38] <jay_> Ben64 and RWW told not to compile in ubuntu
[05:38] <MagicWizard> sudo !!
[05:38] <jay_> they said in ubuntu we dont generally compile sofware
[05:39] <jay_> im just trying in test machine
[05:39] <jay_> for compiling
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !latest
[05:39] <MagicWizard> ubottu you are right BUT
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> use package versions for your ubuntu version
[05:39] <MagicWizard> default g++ is 5.x
[05:40] <jay_> yes ubottu you are right
[05:40] <MagicWizard> not older one
[05:40] <jay_> even RWW and Ben64  told the same thing
[05:40] <jay_> but i generally want to know    how to compile a particular package in ubuntu
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> !compile | jay_
[05:40] <MagicWizard> i have no idea what ypu are trying to do why do you want to use older vesrion of g++
[05:41] <jay_> im not trying to use the latest one im using ubuntu precise so it has inbuilt fcc4.6
[05:41] <jay_> gcc4.6
[05:41] <Dbk> Hi
[05:41] <MagicWizard> so if its builtin why do you want to install it?
[05:41] <MagicWizard> while it is installed
[05:41] <MagicWizard> hi there!
[05:42] <MagicWizard> i need to go
[05:43] <jay_> im trying to do this now
[05:43] <jay_> apt-get install build-essential
[05:43] <jay_> its saying you dont have gcc and g++
[05:44] <jay_> Magicwizard u there
[05:47] <anuj> Wifi is droping on ubuntu 14.04 LTS. No solution on net is filling out the purpose
[05:50] <lotuspsychje> anuj: wifi chipset please?
[05:55] <anuj> sical wireless
[05:55] <anuj>                 configuration: broadcast=yes driver=rtl8723be driverversion=3.19.0-25-generic firmware=N/A ip=172.30.36.100 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bgn
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> anuj: are you up to date to 14.04.3 please?
[05:56] <anuj> i downloaded it from ubuntu day before yesterday
[05:56] <anuj> do i still have to update?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> anuj: try a sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade to make sure
[06:01] <sam_yan> Hi ,I use ubuntu15.04 and when I do like this "systemctl status plymouth-halt.service.It tell me "Failed to get D-bus connection ""
[06:01] <sam_yan> How is this ?
[06:06] <sam_yan> Is anyone ?
[06:07] <elky> there are people here. if someone who knows the answer sees your question, they'll respond
[06:07] <sam_yan> thank you
[06:11] <jay_> hi
[06:13] <cfhowlett> jay greetings. ask your ubuntu questions
[06:28] <Dylan____> Sup
[06:33] <azuri5> is there a particular reason why ubuntu 14.04.3 shows 15.04 (and not 15.10) as the latest normal upgradable version?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> azuri5: its not reccomended to upgrade LTS to non-lts
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> azuri5: clean install if you want to switch
[06:34] <cfhowlett> azuri5, direct answer: 15.40 is the next upgradeable version from 14.04.  if you want 15.10 from upgrade you must do 15.04 first.
[06:34] <azuri5> @lotuspsychje okay
[06:37] <fateme> Hi every one, what is at-spi at linux mint and what is usage?
[06:38] <rww> !mintsupport
[06:39] <TheSilverSentine> Paladin1
[06:39] <Flannel> cfhowlett, azuri5: No, that's not correct.  One must go through 14.10 to get to 15.04.  You can't just go 14.04 to 15.04.  (But you will be able to go 14.04 directly to 16.04 when it's released in April)
[06:39] <cfhowlett> Flannel, doh!  right.  sorry for misinformation.
[06:39] <fateme> i have process: usr/lib/at-spi2-core/at-spi-bus-launcher
[06:40] <cfhowlett> azuri5, and as has been suggested: LTS only is the way to go for most people.
[06:40] <rww> fateme: ask Mint's support channel. they are not us.
[06:40] <Flannel> cfhowlett, azuri5: and 14.10 is EOL, so there's some minor manual tweaking required there to get onto/off of it.
[06:41] <azuri5> LTS has *really* old versions for some packages, but i understand that is by design
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> !latest | azuri5
[06:42] <cfhowlett> azuri5, bleeding edge = bloody edge.  Absent a very specific need for the latest, greatest shiny package, stick with LTS for far fewer headaches.
[07:04] <Dylan____> Guys
[07:04] <Dylan____> How can i copy rom files to ubuntu
[07:04] <Dylan____> From the net
[07:04] <Dylan____> Cause when i try to download a zip
[07:04] <Dylan____> With a rom inside
[07:04] <Dylan____> It just says 0 of ...
[07:04] <vivek_> hello all, is there a way to setup default quota limits for each new user that gets created in the system on ubuntu server?
[07:04] <Dylan____> Trying to get a rom for gba
[07:05] <Dylan____> And i cant download one:/
[07:05] <Ben64> Dylan____: stop using enter so often
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !server | vivek_ ask the server channel
[07:05] <somsip> Dylan____: gba is?
[07:05] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:05] <Ben64> somsip: piracy
[07:05] <somsip> Ben64: that's where I was going...
[07:05] <Dylan____> Well if its piracy then
[07:05] <Ben64> oh i thought you were actually asking
[07:05] <Dylan____> Why is it in the software center
[07:05] <Dylan____> ??
[07:06] <somsip> Dylan____: often, with emulators, distributing the emulator is fine, but distributing copyrighted ROMs is illegal
[07:06] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[07:06] <somsip> !illegal | Dylan____ (so this applies)
[07:06] <Dylan____> Ah ok
[07:06] <Dylan____> Right :(
[07:06] <Dylan____> Sorry for wasting valueable time
[07:15] <repozitor> is there any idea why my firewall doesn't work?
[07:15] <repozitor> i installed firewall-cmd and now it's status is running, rules are fine
[07:15] <repozitor> but some denied port are open from outside of server
[07:16] <xixi> Hi I recently went from apache 2.2 to apache 2.4 (in the ubuntu 12.04 -> 14.04 upgrade). Now the Allow Overrides (cutting off .php) are no longer working. Does anyone know how to change it to make it work in your website.com.conf in the sites-enabled?
[07:16] <repozitor> for example nmap show me 587 is open, but i expect firewall-cmd should deny it
[07:18] <xixi> I use to be able to do www.website.com/test (instead of www.website.com/test.php)
[07:19] <xixi> Anyone have any idea or dealt with this?
[07:20] <somsip> xixi: paste the conf - use pastebin
[07:23] <xixi> somsip: http://pastebin.com/hNdXNUPW
[07:23] <xixi> It worked on 12.04 (apache 2.2) but doesn't work on 2.4
[07:25] <somsip> xixi: you need "Require all granted" in your Directory tag, and better to explicitly use <Directory /var/www/website.com> in your VM conf and leave the higher level directives in apache2.conf
[07:25] <xixi> okay and this will allow it to be /page not /page.php
[07:25] <xixi> ?
[07:26] <somsip> xixi: no, that will allow your .htaccess file to work. That should redirect from *.php to $1
[07:26] <xixi> okay :D
[07:26] <xixi> lemme try
[07:38] <ankitkulkarni> Hey guys, pretty new here . Let me know if this is the wrong window. I have to create myown distributable ubuntu iso so that I can install it again on my own pc using a pendrive . I have tried distroshare, pinguy builder , remastersys(although not available now for 14.04)  . Iso are created but no luck in installing them . I created 14.04 iso , it was of 2.2 gb around but takes lot of time to install . Normal ubuntu would take only few minutes whi
[07:38] <ankitkulkarni> le the distroshare one takes hours to install . Any good way to create small distributable iso from my current installation .
[07:39] <jwtiyar> boot repair cant fix my booting
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !uck  ankitkulkarni
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !uck | ankitkulkarni
[07:41] <cfhowlett> ankitkulkarni, also: use the torrents not direct download
[07:42] <ankitkulkarni> thanks a lot . But would i be able to put my own config files to in it using uck ? Say i want nginx + ROR pre installed and configured with my app running on it ?
[07:42] <cfhowlett> ankitkulkarni, Never used UCK but I understand that you can indeed do that type of customization.  are you deploying to multiple devices??
[07:42] <ankitkulkarni> yes
[07:43] <cfhowlett> ankitkulkarni, alternatives: set up your own local mirror, also look into pxe installation
[07:43] <ankitkulkarni> I have a device on which i have to install it with lot of network and app settings
[07:44] <cfhowlett> ankitkulkarni, suggestion you ask your scenario in #ubuntu-server.  I suspect they would have more experience with this
[07:45] <ankitkulkarni> thanks a lot @cfhowlett
[07:45] <cfhowlett> happy2help! ankitkulkarni
[07:45] <julianpe> good morning everyone
[07:51] <annom11010010> hello there
[07:51] <xixi> hi
[07:51] <annom11010010> i've installed lubuntu from iso image disk
[07:51] <annom11010010> but now i want to switch to gnome desktop
[07:52] <annom11010010> is 'sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop' is enough?
[07:53] <xixi> What dist of lubuntu?
[07:53] <annom11010010> 15.10
[07:53] <xixi> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[07:53] <xixi> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[07:54] <annom11010010> my download for 'sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop' is going on
[07:54] <annom11010010> will i cancel it?
[07:54] <xixi> It should be enough
[07:55] <xixi> You did a update/upgrade before right?
[07:55] <annom11010010> yes
[07:55] <xixi> You should be ok
[07:55] <annom11010010> ok then...thanks
[08:14] <Guest33636> Hello there. I am on a computer which is connected to router through ethernet cable. To use internet on this computer, i have to type "sudo dhclient eth0" command in terminal. Otherwise internet won't work. The network manager that can be seen in upper left corner of screen is not there. How do i get it back so that my computer automatically connects to internet and i don't have to type the command on every restart ?
[08:15] <Guest33636> I think in the past i disabled this network manager from startup by some method. How do i get it back?
[08:17] <llldino> Typing "nm-applet" should get the icon back in your panel...I think
[08:18] <llldino> I know for me going into Settings Manager > Session Startup .. or something like that, and then enabling Network in the Application Autostart might get your network icon back on reboot permanently
[08:19] <llldino> I wish I could help more, I haven't used Ubuntu in ages!
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> Guest33636: maybe start from the beginning, ubuntu version? network card chipset? and what did you do to disable network before?
[08:23] <rodney77> hello, I'm on normal ubuntu 14.04 but I want to install the realtime kernel. Can someone point me to a PPA or deb?
[08:23] <cfhowlett> rodney77, why?
[08:23] <somsip> !mainline | rodney77
[08:23] <rodney77> cfhowlett, because i'm running reaper over wine and I want to try to get my latency down without getting xruns in jack
[08:24] <cfhowlett> rodney77, makes sense then.
[08:24] <rodney77> cfhowlett, but i don't want to run a dedicated distro. anyway i can't find a repo anywhere for realtime
[08:25] <cfhowlett> rodney77, fwiw: ubuntustudio has RT kernel by default.
[08:25] <cfhowlett> https://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
[08:26] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[08:26] <rodney77> cfhowlett, maybe i can add ubuntustudio's kernel? I thought about adding ubuntustudio repos but then it would try to upgrade a bunch of other stuff
[08:26] <cfhowlett> rodney77, and you do NOT want the upgrade?!  :)  but yes.  wait one
[08:28] <cfhowlett> you can sudo apt install the low-latency kernel of your choice without changing repos  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14397990/
[08:29] <rodney77> thanks cfhowlett, but that's the lowlatency kernel, not the realtime kernel
[08:30] <pasha> hi ev
[08:30] <cfhowlett> rodney77, see the ubuntstudio link I sent you for -rt kernel
[08:32] <rodney77> thanks cfhowlett, but on that link, under 'kernel repositories', it shows only a bitbucket link: https://bitbucket.org/thismaechler/ubuntustudio-14.04-realtimeaudio/
[08:32] <rodney77> now, the optimization script there looks excellent and i would love to use it
[08:32] <rodney77> but that assumes you already have the realtime kernel installed
[08:32] <cfhowlett> rodney77, that's the only one I know of.  might ask in #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[08:33] <rodney77> actually, cfhowlett, it says here that there's a pre-compiled kernel available in this repo
[08:33] <gcfhvjbkn> trying to load into grub on 14.04
[08:33] <cfhowlett> rodney77, I'm looking
[08:33] <gcfhvjbkn> i hold shift all the time before ubuntu starts loading
[08:33] <gcfhvjbkn> doesnt work for me
[08:34] <cfhowlett> !grub | gcfhvjbkn
[08:34] <rodney77> ok cfhowlett, i downloaded the repo and the kernel is definitely in here as a deb
[08:35] <rodney77> so this is great! thanks so much!
[08:35] <cfhowlett> rodney77, happy2help!
[08:37] <gcfhvjbkn> cfhowlett: ok so grub won't give me a chance to "invoke" it unless i configure it to appear for a given number of seconds?
[08:37] <gcfhvjbkn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[08:38] <cfhowlett> gcfhvjbkn, by default, grub goes to zero display.  you can edit that if you choose
[08:38] <gcfhvjbkn> this page says you can "force" load grub by pressing shift at a point
[08:38] <cfhowlett> "time out" = 0 is the technical term IIRC
[08:38] <cfhowlett> gcfhvjbkn, grub IS loading, it is just doing so invisibly
[08:38] <gcfhvjbkn> ok, this is uncomfortable because i lost access to my system so i cannot edit grub settings
[08:39] <gcfhvjbkn> only if i boot with livecd (maybe)
[08:39] <gcfhvjbkn> you sure there's no other option?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> gcfhvjbkn, only what I've read in the wiki
[08:41] <stangeland> Hi, i have 2 disks mounted via the ubuntu auto-mounting system, but when i try to list files on the disks i just get permission denied. How do i change permission such that files are available to read and write for all users?
[08:41] <llldino> Do you have access to another os? If so all you gotta do is edit the grub configuration file fount at /etc/default/grub
[08:41] <gcfhvjbkn> well i can read too..
[08:42] <llldino> * @gcfvibkn
[08:43] <Newbie101_> Hello I tried installing Unbound DNS and now I can't access the internet. How can I revert back to the default DNS configuration ?
[08:43] <llldino> strangeland: What do you get when you type "ls -al /path/to/mouned/drives"?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> Newbie101_, purge unbounddns?
[08:43] <Ben64> Newbie101_: undo what you did
[08:44] <gcfhvjbkn> * @gcfvhjbkn
[08:45] <gcfhvjbkn> llldino: i read that there is a way to make grub show itself by pressing shift; i might have misunderstood this maybe?
[08:45] <gcfhvjbkn> if so i'll stop trying and go find livecd
[08:45] <Newbie101_> Ben64, I tried but its not working...the reason I am here...
[08:46] <Ben64> Newbie101_: well what exactly did you do
[08:46] <llldino> gcfhvjbkn: I've read that somewhere too, honestly I've never been patient enough to figure out why it won't work for me, instead I just set an option to have GRUB always show
[08:47] <gcfhvjbkn> ok, thanks
[08:47] <llldino> np
[08:47] <Newbie101_> Ben64, I installed Unbound DNS following the instructions on their website not working. I deleted the Unbound files and still not working after a reboot
[08:49] <Newbie101_> Ben64, what command line I can use to see the status of my DNS config ?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> Newbie101_, #ubuntu-server might just know more.  https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/dns.html
[08:50] <Newbie101_> cfhowlett, thank you
[08:50] <cfhowlett> Newbie101_, best of luck
[08:51] <Ben64> Newbie101_: installed how
[08:52] <Newbie101_> Ben64, Using the terminal apt-get install unbound after getting from the repo...
[08:53] <Ben64> Newbie101_: you know, this would be way easier if you would tell me EXACTLY what you did
[08:55] <Newbie101_> Ben64, I am sorry, I installed a few months ago and I don't remember exactly how I did it. That is the problem. I am trying to learn so its hard to actually rember what I do because I have no clue...
[08:55] <Newbie101_> Ben64, I get this : dig google.com  ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.5-Ubuntu <<>> google.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[08:56] <n2it01> hi
[08:57] <cfhowlett> n2it01, greetings.  ask ubuntu questions.
[09:06] <Newbie101_> Ben64, I uaed this : http://ubuntuserverguide.com/2012/10/how-to-installing-and-configure-unbound-on-ubuntu-server-12-04.html
[09:06] <ikonia> who writes these urls ???
[09:06] <ikonia> if you're going to write documentaiton why would you not put it on the official wiki rather than these dubious 3rd party sites
[09:07] <guest> are you really that naive ikonia? :P
[09:08] <guest> A click to the Ubuntu wiki isn't a click to joe's blogg
[09:09] <Ben64> Newbie101_: sudo apt-get purge unbound; sudo service dnsmasq restart
[09:11] <Newbie101_> Ben64, thank you for your help. For the second command line : bob@bob-machine ~ $ sudo service dnsmasq restart dnsmasq: unrecognized service
[09:13] <Ben64> Newbie101_: eh thats what i figured
[09:14] <Newbie101_> Ben64, Ok, I did get this mesage forthe first command line : Removing unbound (1.4.22-1ubuntu4.14.04.2) ...  * Stopping recursive DNS server unbound                                 [ OK ]  Purging configuration files for unbound (1.4.22-1ubuntu4.14.04.2) ... dpkg: warning: while removing unbound, directory '/etc/unbound' not empty so not removed Processing triggers for man-db (2.6.7.1-1ubuntu1) ...
[09:17] <Ben64> Newbie101_: looks good
[09:20] <ddustudent> hi
[09:20] <cfhowlett> ddustudent, greetings.  ask ubuntu questions
[09:21] <ddustudent> will i be able to install Ubuntu on mac without any issues?
[09:22] <ddustudent> i know it is possible but just wanted to confirm
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> !mac | ddustudent
[09:22] <lotuspsychje> ddustudent: i think it depends with ubuntu version/mac version/hardware
[09:22] <ddustudent> thank you | ubottu
[09:23] <cfhowlett> ddustudent, or you *could* torrent the ubuntu .iso, make a bootable USB and test it for yourself?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> hmm nice, seems like that mac guide has been updated
[09:26] <cfhowlett> bout damn time ...
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> :p
[09:28] <Tomiii> Hello, why isnt "intel-microcode" included by default?
[09:28] <Tomiii> https://wiki.debian.org/Microcode
[09:28] <Tomiii> https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/microcode
[09:29] <Tomiii> it seems helpful!
[09:33] <Newbie101_> Ben64, what should be my next action ? apt-get install dnsmasq ?
[09:33] <cfhowlett> !debian | Tomiii,
[09:34] <Ben64> Newbie101_: no, it might work now
[09:35] <Newbie101_> ok, you mean the DNS should resolve ?
[09:35] <Tomiii> cfhowlett: do you update ur microcode?
[09:35] <cfhowlett> Tomiii, never seen the need
[09:35] <Newbie101_> Ben64, ok, you mean the DNS should resolve ?
[09:35] <Tomiii> https://downloadcenter.intel.com/search?keyword=Linux*+Processor+Microcode+Data+File
[09:35] <llldino> Tomiii, After reading up on it, it seems as though it's something that shouldn't be messed with unless you're having stability issues
[09:35] <Newbie101_> Ben64, dig google.com  ; <<>> DiG 9.9.5-3ubuntu0.5-Ubuntu <<>> google.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[09:36] <Sebben> Hello
[09:36] <cfhowlett> Tomiii, for that matter, I can wait for such fixes to be rolled into the bios updates
[09:37] <Tomiii> cfhowlett: yes, but BIOS updates stop for computers after a few years
[09:37] <Ben64> Newbie101_: should maybe restart networking or your computer or both
[09:38] <Newbie101_> Ben64, ok thank you let me try to reboot...brb
[09:43] <orf_> God damn guys, what the hell is wrong with Linux and multiple monitors
[09:44] <orf_> every time I upgrade my kernel some new issue crops up. This time one of my 3 identical displays is an "Unknown display"
[09:44] <orf_> And has a really small resolution.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> orf_, drop the profanity immediately if you expect support
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !english | orf_
[09:44] <orf_> Sorry, it's just a bit frustrating.
[09:45] <orf_> Is there a way to just remove the display entirely, so that when I re-plug it it's a fresh screen?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> orf_, did it work properly under the previous kernel??
[09:45] <Newbie101_> Ben64, I rebooted and still not internet access : bob@bob-machine ~ $ ping -c3 google.com ping: unknown host google.com
[09:45] <orf_> I tried running xrandr --delmode but I get "BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)"
[09:46] <orf_> yes cfhowlett, but the display config seems to get messed up every kernel update
[09:46] <Ben64> Newbie101_: open the network configuration thingy and set static dns servers
[09:46] <Ben64> orf_: what video card
[09:46] <orf_> inbuilt intel one, I can get the exact version number if you like
[09:46] <jophish> hi, I upgraded my kernel to 4.0 to fix my wifi connection speed, however after doing this I can't use any external usb devices or connect to wifi
[09:47] <Ben64> orf_: sorry, idk much about intel graphics
[09:47] <orf_> do you know how to just reset the entire display config?
[09:47] <Ben64> jophish: how did you do the upgrade, and what version of ubuntu are you on
[09:47] <orf_> I can then reconfigure each monitor, but starting fresh seems like a good way to go
[09:48] <jophish> Ben64: 14.04, I installed linux-image-4.2.0-22-generic. I'm installing image-extra now to see if that helps
[09:50] <llldino> orf_, Did you run the xrandr command as root?
[09:50] <Ben64> jophish: that package isn't meant to be installed by itself
[09:50] <jophish> Ben64: ah, what should I have installed instead?
[09:52] <Ben64> jophish: something like this...  sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily
[09:52] <Tomiii> jophish: what is the easiest way to update to linux 4.2?
[09:52] <jophish> Ben64: I'll give that a go, thanks
[09:53] <jophish> Tomiii: pretty much, yeah
[09:53] <Tomiii> jophish: can you do it in synaptic?
[09:53] <jophish> I was told that it could fix the problems I've been having with my wifi connection
[09:53] <jophish> Tomiii: I've not used synaptic in about 10 years, I don't know if I've even got it installed
[09:54] <cfhowlett> jophish, first try normal channels.  apt-get -s update && apt-get -s full-upgrade               will show what's possible but will not execute anything
[09:54] <jophish> cfhowlett: will that upgrade the whole system? I'd rather just upgrade the kernel
[09:55] <Newbie101_> Ben64, I reboot and works. Thank you for your help. Is there some links you could send me so that I can learn more about what you helped me repair? I want to learn...
[09:55] <cfhowlett> jophish, *will not execute* ...
[09:55] <Ben64> Newbie101_: well if you set static dns, then its using that
[09:56] <jophish> cfhowlett: sorry, I meant to ask: "will that do a dry run of upgrading the whole system? I'd rather just have a dry run of upgrading the kernel"
[09:56] <Newbie101_> Ben64, ok well thank you for your time.Have a good day.
[09:56] <jophish> back in a flash, rebooting
[09:57] <cfhowlett> jophish, yes it will dry run.   see the output and if (as hoped) a new kernel is there, you can specify upgrading the kernel only
[10:03] <Error404NotFound> What is the idea of [Desktop Action something] in .desktop files? For example, chromium-browser's desktop file has an incognito action. How does that work?
[10:03] <jay_> hello
[10:03] <jay_> anybody https://launchpad.net/ubuntu    how to get ppa username and ppa name from here
[10:04] <jay_> i cant find username and ppa name
[10:05] <jay_> hi greyback
[10:05] <jay_> hi ssingamchetti
[10:06] <Ben64> jay_: what are you trying to do
[10:06] <jay_> im trying to add ppa in ubuntu server 12
[10:06] <Ben64> to what end
[10:07] <jay_> to get packages of build-essential
[10:07] <HackerII> luv them ridiculous long nicks
[10:07] <Ben64> jay_: its already in the repositories, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:08] <jay_> its not working
[10:08] <jay_> im tried many times
[10:08] <Ben64> jay_: do it, and pastebin the output
[10:08] <jay_> ok
[10:08] <ssingamchetti> hi jay
[10:11] <jay_> http://picpaste.com/Capture-TOk5731G.PNG    here is the link
[10:11] <Ben64> why picture of text
[10:11] <jay_> im using virtualmachine i cant copy and paste text
[10:12] <jay_> picpaste is like pastebin but for images
[10:12] <jay_> im suing virtualbox
[10:12] <Ben64> oh wait i remember you, you already have a bunch of ppas and you're trying to break your system by upgrading gcc, right?
[10:12] <jay_> gcc is not installed in my system
[10:13] <jay_> when i type gcc --version
[10:13] <jay_> it says to install gcc and pentium builder
[10:13] <jay_> now im installing lftp
[10:14] <Ben64> jay_: cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:15] <jay_> i want to get ppa for this
[10:15] <jay_> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lftp
[10:16] <Ben64> jay_: lftp is in the repositories too, stop trying to use ppas all the time
[10:17] <jay_> in ubuntu precise there is curlftps
[10:17] <jay_> ok i wil check
[10:17] <Ben64> jay_: run this, tell me the output ------------------> "cat /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[10:18] <jay_> ok see this http://picpaste.com/Capture-3pUGtIVh.PNG
[10:18] <jay_> i have the run the output
[10:18] <jay_> its in the picture
[10:18] <jay_> its not working
[10:18] <ssingamchetti> jay_: hi
[10:18] <Ben64> jay_: you typed it wrong
[10:19] <jay_> ok i will type it again
[10:20] <jay_> ok it came now
[10:20] <GabrielSOE> Hello, Trying to mount RDM already full of data (Oracle DB) to Ubuntu server 14.04. RDM NTFS GPT 5TB. cant seem to mount even with ro... Please help (:
[10:20] <jay_> http://termbin.com/cpep
[10:21] <Ben64> jay_: your sources.list file is cut off, you're missing sections
[10:22] <jay_> where im missing kindly tell me
[10:23] <Ben64> jay_: should look more like this https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/sample/sources.list
[10:23] <jay_> i guess three  repositories are important    main    updates and backports
[10:23] <jay_> ok i will see
[10:26] <jay_> Ben64  yes im missing something
[10:27] <jay_> ii will add some sources from precise ubuntu packeges link
[10:27] <Ben64> jay_: just replace your sources.list with the one i linked to you
[10:27] <Ben64> jay_: and stop messing with PPAs
[10:27] <jay_> yes yes sir Ben64
[10:30] <jay_> termbin is very good
[10:30] <jay_> its good for exporting text to internet
[10:31] <jay_> is there anyway to import text
[10:31] <jay_> from termbin
[10:38] <jay_> Ben64 : thank you
[10:40] <jay_> Ben64 : r u there
[10:41] <Ben64> yes
[10:41] <jay_> lftp is working
[10:41] <jay_> now
[10:41] <jay_> can we get text from termbin
[10:42] <Ben64> jay_: for what purpose
[10:43] <jay_> suppose you are sending text termbin
[10:43] <jay_> so i can use that link directly in virtualmachine
[10:43] <jay_> so that input text to my virtualmachine
[10:44] <Ben64> there are ways to do that
[10:45] <jay_> ok
[10:45] <GabrielSOE> Hello, Trying to mount RDM already full of data (Oracle DB) to Ubuntu server 14.04. RDM NTFS GPT 5TB. cant seem to mount even with ro... Please help (:
[10:52] <mihael_k33hl> I'm having problems resolving hostnames. It seems to be intermittent, checked that network-manager is using the correct NameServer via nmcli command. Anyone experienced this problem?
[10:54] <michaelfulciniti> Hello
[10:55] <michaelfulciniti> Anyone awake?
[10:56] <panos_> Hello, I am having a problem with an internal 2TB HDD, it seems to be very slow in browsing (not in r/w). Is there something wrong with my configuration maybe?
[10:56] <michaelfulciniti> nick emptySHELL
[10:57] <emptySHELL> clear
[10:57] <llldino> michael_imac, I'm half awake
[10:57] <emptySHELL> Coffee?
[10:59] <emptySHELL> I thought a chat room with 1784 people would be a little busier than this.
[10:59] <llldino> panos_, What do you get if you do as root "hdparm -Tt /dev/sdx" sdx being the device of said hard drive
[10:59] <Ben64> emptySHELL: its a support channel, not a chat room
[10:59] <llldino> emptySHELL, You should sit in #debian :x
[10:59] <emptySHELL> Good chatroom channel??
[10:59] <emptySHELL> thanks
[11:00] <llldino> emptySHELL, I was being sarcastic lol, it's dead in there
[11:00] <k1l_> emptySHELL: #ubuntu-offtopic for chat. here we focus on support only
[11:00] <panos_> @llldino
[11:01] <panos_> /dev/sdd1:
[11:01] <panos_>  Timing cached reads:   26056 MB in  2.00 seconds = 13040.85 MB/sec
[11:01] <panos_>  Timing buffered disk reads: 434 MB in  3.01 seconds = 144.32 MB/sec
[11:01] <panos_> it seems ok, but the problem is in browsing, not in r/w
[11:01] <llldino> panos_, What do you mean exactly when you say "browsing"
[11:02] <panos_> when I open this HDD with a file browser (thunar or sth else), it takes about 40 seconds to open t
[11:02] <panos_> it*
[11:04] <llldino> It's not your root drive? You can try "lsof /location/of/mount/point" and see if anything is hogging I/O
[11:04] <llldino> Also the package 'iotop' is great for diagnosing I/O problems, it's on the main repo I think, when you get it run it as root and see whats happening
[11:06] <panos_> no process seems to be using /dev/sdd1 according to lsof
[11:06] <llldino> You'd have to check the mount point
[11:06] <llldino> Not the device node
[11:07] <panos_> nothing again
[11:09] <llldino> panos_, Maybe try as root "fsck.ext2 -fn /dev/sdXY"
[11:09] <Mixxit> trying to overwrite shared '/etc/sane.d/v4l.conf', which is different from other instances of package libsane:amd64
[11:09] <Mixxit> how can i fix this?
[11:10] <Mixxit> 14.04
[11:11] <panos_> Warning!  /dev/sdd1 is mounted.
[11:11] <panos_> ext2fs_open2: Bad magic number in super-block
[11:11] <panos_> fsck.ext2: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
[11:11] <panos_> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdd1
[11:11] <panos_> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a valid ext2/ext3/ext4
[11:11] <panos_> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2/ext3/ext4
[11:11] <k1l_> panos_: dont fsck mounted partitions
[11:11] <Mixxit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14398737/
[11:12] <Mixxit> and -f log is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14398738/
[11:12] <Mixxit> thanks!
[11:13] <llldino> k1l_, the -n flag on fsck tells fsck not to touch the drive, I'm only checking contingency
[11:14] <k1l_> Mixxit: sudo apt update && sudo apt-get install libsane
[11:14] <llldino> panos_, What filesystem do you have on your drive?
[11:14] <k1l_> Mixxit: put it into a pastebin
[11:14] <panos_> it's vfat
[11:15] <k1l_> Mixxit: ah wait, didnt see the install -f log
[11:15] <llldino> panos_, Is this a recent problem you've been having? VFAT is slow on a good day
[11:16] <panos_> no, I have it since I bought this hdd
[11:16] <llldino> and it's only recently been causing issues?
[11:16] <panos_> no no
[11:17] <panos_> the issues happen from the first time
[11:17] <panos_> the strange thing is that this hdd works ok in my windows partition
[11:17] <DamBedEi> Hi.
[11:17] <k1l_> Mixxit: "sudo rm /etc/sane.d/v4l.conf"
[11:17] <llldino> panos_,  Oh, so I'd hazard a guess and blame the fact it's a VFAT filesystem
[11:17] <k1l_> Mixxit: then again install -f
[11:18] <annon100101> i installed lubuntu 15.10 from iso disk image. then i updated and upgraded. and installed a few programs(sublime text,ruby etc). then i installed gnome using using 'sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop'. then pc restarted. login screen was gnome but the desktop is lubuntu still. i then uninstalled lubuntu-desktop. but its not working
[11:18] <annon100101> any idea?
[11:18] <panos_> llldino, it appears so. Is there any way I can change the filesystem without formatting it?
[11:18] <DamBedEi> I once saw how someone got information about an object file like on which system it was built and so on but I forgot the commad ... someone has an idea? can't find it on google :(
[11:18] <llldino> panos_, Not without destroying your files
[11:18] <k1l_> annon100101: did you choose gnome on the login screen?
[11:19] <panos_> llldino: pitty :(
[11:19] <panos_> llldino thanks for your help, I appreciate this
[11:19] <llldino> panos_, You would have to rip everything you wanted to keep off of it into a .tar or something and then format your drive
[11:19] <annon100101> no option was on login . it was gnome by default
[11:19] <llldino> panos_, No problem man, sorry for the bad news
[11:20] <annon100101> but pc started with lubuntu logo after grub
[11:20] <panos_> llldino: It's a little bit difficult to backup 2TB of data ... :)
[11:20] <annon100101> grub>lubuntu logo>gnome login panel>lubuntu deszktop
[11:20] <k1l_> annon100101: you need to choose gnome on login.
[11:21] <llldino> panos_, Yeah no kidding, especially if it's coming off VFAT
[11:21] <annon100101> :)
[11:21] <k1l_> click on the icon and then choose gnome-desktop there
[11:21] <panos_> llldino: :)
[11:22] <iresf> hi everyone
[11:22] <panos_> llldino: Should I change it to NTFS? (I also want it windows compatible)
[11:22] <iresf> anyone know free proxy for ubuntu and debian  ?
[11:22] <mistralol> tinyproxy?
[11:22] <llldino> panos_, Yeah
[11:23] <mistralol> In ubuntu how can i stop the mouse cursor going invisable in gnome-terminal?
[11:23] <Mathisen> does ubuntu use identical kernels in ubuntu and lubuntu ...
[11:23] <k1l_> iresf: better ask in ##chat
[11:23] <k1l_> Mathisen: yes
[11:23] <Mathisen> are they compiled diffrent ?
[11:23] <llldino> Mathisen, I believe so
[11:23] <Mathisen> thqat what i thought
[11:29] <Kiwiirc_Testing> Helo folks. I am testing out Kiwiirc from a website and not an IRC client.
[11:29] <Kiwiirc_Testing> It looks pretty good so far.
[11:30] <Kiwiirc_Testing> Is there an Ubuntu version of this that can be custom programmed for a private IRC server?
[11:31] <wiiguy> Kiwiirc_Testing try the ubuntu server edition ?
[11:32] <Mixxit> k1l_: thanks
[11:32] <Mixxit> k1l_: there was a ton of files changing them worked! cheers buddy
[11:32] <Kiwiirc_Testing> I didn't know one existed. Thanks for that thought.
[11:52] <butterfly_> Need help!  upgraded Ubuntu Trusty via update and when restarted, got initramfs error. Anyway to fix this error?
[11:53] <llldino> butterfly_, Boot again into single user mode, and try running "update-initramfs -u"
[11:58] <butterfly_> Thanks, llldino. I should've visit this forum earlier. Googling is a pain, been surfing around for weeks. Thanks a lot.
[11:58] <llldino> butterfly_, No problem buddy
[12:16] <join> Selam herkese.
[12:17] <fep> who?
[12:29] <akik> !tr
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:52] <theking> anyone?
[12:53] <theking> i need help
[12:53] <llldino> theking, What was the question?
[12:55] <annon100101> hello there!
[12:55] <annon100101> i installed lubuntu 15.10 in my pc first
[12:55] <annon100101> then installed gnome desktop
[12:56] <annon100101> now im using gnome
[12:56] <annon100101> but when pc starts, it shows lubuntu logo
[12:56] <annon100101> how can i change that
[12:56] <solaries> How can I reconfigure graphics driver? I am running Ubuntu in HyperV and have modprobe'd  hyperv_fb. Now, how to use it?
[12:57] <annon100101> solaries: HyperV..that means windows 10?
[12:57] <solaries> yes
[13:00] <annon100101> solaries: Use Device Manager in the guest operating system to enable the Microsoft Virtual Machine Bus Video Device.
[13:01] <solaries> I'm actually using Mint, which is Ubuntu based. There I don't find device manager.
[13:01] <solaries> Only driver manager. And that doesn't show any drivers to select.
[13:01] <Sven9797> Running Ubuntu 14.04 on a Dell 15 and lovin it!
[13:04] <annon100101> solaries: even u cannot access any legacy video adapter from there?
[13:05] <solaries> correct
[13:05] <Alexandrov> .
[13:05] <solaries> annon100101: lspci gives me "00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: Microsoft Corporation Device 02c1 (rev 01)"
[13:06] <solaries> I assume after modprobing hyperv_fb, I need to go through bare X configuration... :-/
[13:06] <PaulePanter> Hi. The father of a friend bought a HP desktop system with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[13:07] <PaulePanter> Now my friend, a Mac zealot, reported from the experience of his father.
[13:07] <PaulePanter> Updates fail after quite a short time, because the size of partition /boot is just 128 MB and therefore Linux kernel upgrades fail because of no space left.
[13:08] <PaulePanter> Who is to contact to fix this really bad user experience?
[13:09] <mcphail> PaulePanter: this is a pet peeve of mine. There are bugs filed about it
[13:09] <mcphail> PaulePanter: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1479344 for an example
[13:10] <annon100101> solaries: if having trouble, u may try this.. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2878821
[13:11] <mcphail> PaulePanter: for most users, having a separate /boot is only a hindrance. Ask the user to run "apt-get autoremove" to see if it can clear some space on /boot. Otherwise, it will require manual clearing
[13:13] <PaulePanter> mcphail: Thanks.
[13:13] <PaulePanter> mcphail: Do you work at Ubuntu and are able to fix this together with HP?
[13:14] <mcphail> PaulePanter: no - I don't have any connections to Ubuntu/Canonical or HP
[13:14] <mcphail> PaulePanter: simply a longtime user
[13:14] <annon100101> solaries: if not than check this.. . https://wiki.debian.org/WindowsServerHyperV
[13:14] <annon100101> *then
[13:15] <PaulePanter> mcphail: Thank you for caring about it then. As written, the father is a normal user and bought the system from HP with Ubuntu preinstalled. I hoped, HP and Canonical would have a better QA to give a better user experience.
[13:16] <mcphail> PaulePanter: It is an easy one to miss, only becoming apparent after several kernel upgrade. But, i fully agree with you, it is a bad bug. I wish they would add big warnings to the Ubuntu installer
[13:16] <solaries> thanks, annon100101! Will check out those guides!
[13:17] <solaries> annon100101: Are you also running Ubuntu under Win10 HyperV?
[13:17] <Fohlen> hey guys. I've got a computer with 2 line-in sound output devices, that I configured using alsamixer to be in non auto-mute mode. But now suddenly it outputs my input (microfon) on both headset and speakers
[13:17] <mcphail> PaulePanter: it would be worth reporting to HP as well
[13:17] <Fohlen> any idea how I could fix that
[13:17] <Fohlen> I disabled the mic for now because its annoying as fuck
[13:19] <NoCode> Hi, I've just encrypted a USB dongle with LUKS with gnome-disks, When I input the passphrase of the key, I get: "You do not have the permissions necessary to view the contents of disk". Do I need to be root to view the content on the USB if I've format the USB dongle as root?
[13:20] <llldino> NoCode,  Yes
[13:21] <NoCode> llldino: So formating it without being root will allow me to use the passphase(LUKS) and continue using it via user?
[13:23] <llldino> You can just use "chown -R yourusername /location/of/usb" and that should work, but i'm not too familiar with LUKS and i'm not sure if LUKS intends the dongle to be root only
[13:26] <NoCode> llldino: Hopefully it works since when inserting the dongle, it asks for a passphase right off the bat. As I don't run in root always, it would be kind of useless to not be able to.
[13:26] <NoCode> Ubuntu should perhaps ask for the computer password, then ask for the LUKS password if so.
[13:27] <NoCode> But even then would be more of a pain because then what I am doing, it'll ask for a 3rd password right after that. :D
[13:27] <NoCode> holy crapola.
[13:28] <llldino> If you formatted it while logged in as the root user, it will set the owner of the directory as root, but if it intended for you to format it as user, then it should work fine
[13:28] <llldino> I mean it should work fine if you format it as user, but you can just switch owners of directories using chown
[13:28] <llldino> Oh, and you'd have to run "chown -R yourusername /location/of/usb" as root
[13:29] <NoCode> Yes, am about the chown
[13:30] <NoCode> also used username:username
[13:37] <k1l> PaulePanter: report to hp. the manufacturers tend to modify the setups for preinstallation.
[13:40] <NoCode> llldino: That worked, but what I don't get is why Nautilus wouldn't ask for the passphrase again after closing the window. hrm
[13:40] <k1l> PaulePanter: and a "sudo apt-get autoremove" should remove some of the old kernels
[13:43] <C_minus> 14.04 problem - didn't successfully boot a couple of times (hanging on 5 dots). so selectde "recovery mode" but didn't understand options, so chose "resume normal boot". This time, 5 dots are gone, I'm at the login window, can hear the ubuntu drums. But when I type in my password, the screen sort of jerks/flashes, and sends me back to login screen.
[13:44] <C_minus> Same if I choose "guest session"
[13:44] <k1l> C_minus: what did you do before the first not-booting
[13:45] <C_minus> I had used ubuntu this morning, shut down and restarted in windows 7 to check on something windows-related, then shut down win7 and tried to boot ubuntu. which brings me to present moment!
[13:46] <C_minus> Just rebooted again, and I'm back at the 5 dots. This is very bad :(
[13:47] <C_minus> Is there something like a "safe mode" i can use?
[13:49] <k1l> C_minus: i would go and try to find the cause and repair that
[13:49] <k1l> C_minus: it sounds like there is an issue with the video driver or the hard disk at all.
[13:49] <k1l> C_minus: so again: what did you do (on ubuntu) before that happend.
[13:49] <C_minus> well i used it happily this morning. was just browsing the web really, nothing fancy.
[13:50] <k1l> like installing updates, installing other kernels, installing video drivers from some websites,....
[13:50] <C_minus> k1l nope nothing like that.
[13:52] <k1l> C_minus: can you press ctrl+alt+f1 and log in there?
[13:53] <C_minus> At what point should I do that? On the 5 dots splash screen?
[13:54] <C_minus> !!! OK so weird - I tried failsafe mode - it just had a window saying "the system is running in low graphics mode" and didn't respond to keyboard or trackpad. So switched off, switched back on, and it booted/logged in perfectly fine
[13:55] <C_minus> So strange! I have loved using ubuntu and learning about linux recently, but sometimes it scares the hell out of me!
[13:55] <C_minus> It must have failed to boot about 8 or 10 times before working :/
[13:57] <C_minus> Does this type of thing ever happen to you?
[13:57] <k1l> C_minus: no. you can look into the old syslogs in /var/log/ to see what was going on
[14:01] <C_minus> k1l. thanks. It's a bit over my head to understand the meaning of these logs. I do notice a large chunk highlighted in red, is that normal?
[14:01] <k1l> put it into a pastebin
[14:02] <C_minus> I'll go back to when it first started messing up, but it might be quite large...
[14:06] <C_minus_> k1l Hi I'm now logged in on my ubuntu laptop. Thanks for looking at this syslog paste for me, sorry if it's too large, or I didn't get the relevant pieces http://pastebin.com/0HhZZ4Fh
[14:08] <annon100101> solaries: welcome..
[14:10] <annon100101> solaries: is ur problem solved?
[14:10] <ratbuddy__> mornin.. 12.04 is redirecting both stdout and stderr to the file, even though I'm just using a single > to redirect output.. systemwide or profile setting I should look for to stop this?
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> ratbuddy__  share the script with the channel, in a pastebin, so we know what we're dealing with ... and there's also #bash
[14:21] <Strat> I have 2 monitors. Everytime i start up ubuntu, i need to open certain programs, and set their location to each monitor (ex.: program 1 and 2 on monitor 1 and evenly distribute the space by using ubuntu's "snap to edge" feature). I already setup my startup applications, but how do i allocate the corresponding space and monitor to each application?
[14:22] <nkaman> Hi
[14:23] <C_minus_> I'm not sure if k1l is already helping me out with this. But does anybody have the enthusiasm to check through this syslog and perhaps work out why my laptop was hanging on splash screen/failing to log in? http://pastebin.com/0HhZZ4Fh
[14:26] <pbx> Strat, i know this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but a tiling window manager would let you do this sort of thing. e.g. xmonad
[14:29] <bgardner> C_minus_: Does your user own .ICEauthority and .Xauthority?
[14:30] <OerHeks> just found out how to remember placement of program window, http://askubuntu.com/a/708984
[14:31] <C_minus_> bgardner I'm not 100% sure on that (dont know what they are) but I am the only laptop user, and they reside in my home folder
[14:33] <C_minus_> bgardner yes, stat /path/to/those/files reveals that I am the owner
[14:37] <valtrip> just installed 15.10 ,, ifconfig is showing wlp9s0  at the place of wlan0 ,, can i change it ,, how??
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> valtrip  is this useful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2282721
[14:40] <Strat> pbx, thanks for the reply. I was aware of tiling window managers (used awesomewm in the past, it was great!), and thought maybe i could do something similar within ubuntu without addition software packages to be installed. Anyway, i think i have to get back to a tiling window manager. Thnx for the reply ;)
[14:41] <bgardner> C_minus_: I was trying to take a run at this but honestly I don't see anything worrisome in your log.  I thought checking those two files was worth a shot but now I'm out of ideas.  Perhaps someone else can assist.
[14:41] <C_minus_> bgardner thanks. what does it mean if you see a bunch of stuff highlighted in red in the syslog? i that bad?
[14:42] <bgardner> C_minus_: Depends on what you use to look at it.  If you're grepping, it's just highlighting what matched the grep.
[14:43] <C_minus_> no this is just the way it looked when i opened it in gedit. \00\00\00\00\00... all in red. sorry i have no idea what most of the logs are about.
[14:44] <C_minus_> this worries me, i have no idea when it's going to fail to boot next. i'm scared to switch off the computer.
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> C_minus_  when did this start? is this your first experience with ubuntu?
[14:47] <C_minus_> MonkeyDust. Not quite first, but im relatively new to ubuntu/computing. This morning was using ubuntu a-ok. Then rebooted into win7 for a while. when i came back to boot into ubuntu it failed about 8-10 times - hanging on splash screen,
[14:48] <C_minus_> then i tried recovery mode, but didn't understand the options, so just selected "resume normal boot". This allowed me to get to login screen, but after entering password, screen just sort of flashed/jerked and sent me back to login screen.
[14:49] <C_minus_> Sounds like this problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/223501/ubuntu-gets-stuck-in-a-login-loop but as i say, I could only get this far after recovery-mode > resume normal boot. Otherwise just 5 dot splash screen.
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> C_minus_  similar to this?  http://askubuntu.com/questions/462272/cant-login-to-ubuntu-14-04
[14:50] <C_minus_> MonkeyDust quite similar, although I COULDN'T log in with the guest account either.
[14:50] <akik> i think it's a really weird decision to hide the bootup messages
[14:51] <cfhowlett> akik, others disagree.  if you wish, can watch the verbose feedback
[14:51] <akik> now users come to ask help with "the 5 dots"
[14:52] <C_minus_> i wish i could be more specific akik
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> C_minus_  during the 'graphical boot', hit F12... the text messages should show now ... found this myself by accident, some time ago
[14:53] <akik> yes, for now i can enable the messages but for how long?
[14:54] <C_minus_> MonkeyDust the other weird part is that I didn't *do* anything, I just kept on trying to reboot and eventually it worked.
[14:54] <solaries> annon100101: unfortunately, my problem isn't solved yet.
[14:54] <solaries> what would be the "raw" way of configuring X?
[14:54] <solaries> I mean in the ancient past there was a possibility to probe the graphics card.
[14:55] <akik> solaries: you can still use /etc/X11/xorg.conf to configure it
[14:56] <C_minus_> On an unrelated note, does anybody know what tool I might use to make a complete clone/image of my hard drive - including BOTH ubuntu and win7 partition? To back up to an external hard drive?
[14:56] <solaries> atik: sure, but I don't know how to set up this hyperv_fb
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !cloning | C_minus
[14:57] <solaries> better would be some tool that figures that out
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !clonezilla
[14:57] <OerHeks> ctrl alt F1 ;  sudo service lightdm stop ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and switch back to the gui with ctrl alt f7
[14:57] <OerHeks> solaries ^^
[14:58] <solaries> cool, thx
[15:00] <C_minus_> cfhowlett so you recommnd clonezilla to make a clone of every partition on my laptop, all at once? Ideally I'd like to be able to restore the machine to its earlier state all in 1 step after a failure (i.e. put Win7 and Ubuntu back on)
[15:00] <akik> solaries: you can see if "X -configure" or "Xorg -configure" creates a working xorg.conf.new file
[15:00] <cfhowlett> C_minus, yeah you could do that ...
[15:06] <C_minus_> Some people seem to think the problem is related to nvidia drivers
[15:07] <C_minus_> In the additional drivers dialogue, it says I am "Using NVIDIA binary driver - v352.68 from nvidia-352 (proprietary)"
[15:07] <C_minus_> I chose this a while ago because I wanted to install CUDA, but lost interest in that.
[15:08] <C_minus_> However it has been working fine since then (that was ages ago), i.e. no boot problems
[15:08] <C_minus_> Could it still be related?
[15:10] <mcphail> C_minus_: are you 100% sure you don't have failing hardware or a corrupt filesystem? Have you switched off all "fast boot" or "special windows boot" options in the BIOS? Have you tried booting with an earlier kernel?
[15:12] <Dvginkel> Goodday Everyone
[15:12] <C_minus_> mcphail - hardware should be good - laptop is only a couple months old. how can i check filesystem? i remember running "fsck" while in "recovery mode" and it reported like 0.3% non contiguous files or something like that but can't remember exactly.
[15:13] <C_minus_> i haven't made any changes to the bios, at least not recently but i can check... it could be in some kind of "legacy mode"
[15:14] <mcphail> C_minus_: new hardware doesn't mean working hardware. Check your memory and disks (from a live USB, if you can't boot). Worrying that you needed to run fsck at some point. Did you have an unclean shutdown?
[15:14] <C_minus_> mcphail - i didn't *need* to run fsck. i just couldn't boot and i was at a loss as to what to do.
[15:15] <mcphail> C_minus_: also, try booting with the previous kernel from the GRUB menu. Perhaps the nvidia drivers did not get rebuilt with the latest kernel upgrade
[15:15] <C_minus_> several unclean shutdowns AFTER my laptop started failing to boot - because all i had at my disposal was a purple screen with 5 dots and the power off button. but i always shut down before powering off otherwise
[15:16] <mcphail> C_minus_: if you are struggling to shutdown, try holding "Alt" and "SysRq/PrntScrn" and press "REISUO" slowly
[15:16] <valtrip> MonkeyDust :  no file in /etc/udev/rules.d   ,, after searching find this   http://askubuntu.com/questions/228673/change-ra0-to-wlan0-in-ubuntu-10-10    still 75-file not found in /lib/
[15:16] <C_minus_> mcphail - ok if i recall in the grub menu i have a couple of options under "advanced options" but they're both the same version. if i recall correctly.
[15:16] <mcphail> C_minus_: or "REISUB" if you want to reboot
[15:17] <mcphail> C_minus_: that would be unusual. Is this a very new install?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> valtrip  instead of struggling, accept the new naming convention
[15:18] <C_minus_> mcphail, yeah pretty new i guess. installed ubuntu on xmas day.
[15:18] <mcphail> C_minus_: aah. OK, shouldn't be an issue with dkms building, then. Did you install the nvidia drivers from default repos?
[15:19] <C_minus_> mcphail: i just went to "additional drivers" and chose one of the nvidia proprietary ones.
[15:19] <mcphail> C_minus_: OK. Good. Can you still boot into Windows?
[15:20] <C_minus_> mcphail 352.68 if that means anything to you. yes win7 works fine as far as i can tell.
[15:20] <mcphail> C_minus_: and any "fast boot" options switched off in BIOS?
[15:21] <C_minus_> mcphail, i'm pretty sure i don't have any fast-boot options enabled, but since i'm talking to you i don't want to shut down and find out! and potentially not be able to come back!
[15:21] <mcphail> C_minus_: Ha! do you have any important files on your Ubuntu install?
[15:21] <daftykins> you can't run like that forever :P
[15:22] <C_minus_> mcphail, i guess i could reboot and come back to IRC on a different computer. I have a few things that will be annoying to install again. But I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world if I need to reinstall.
[15:23] <mcphail> C_minus_: OK, then I suggest you boot into a live USB and mount your Ubuntu partition. Have a look around in your home directory and see if anything is missing/corrupted. Report back. If you do have vital files on the partition, make a clone first
[15:23] <C_minus_> I was just discussing that with someone else. I am considering clonezilla to make a perfect image of EVERYTHING - including my Win7 partition.
[15:24] <mcphail> C_minus_: To be honest, a clone with "dd" would be easier and more useful. But whatever you ant to use is fine
[15:24] <daftykins> no it's not easier or more useful :P
[15:24] <daftykins> clonezilla would be ace as you won't need to store all the empty space
[15:25] <C_minus_> There are some things on Win7 that I really don't want to have to reinstall (huge downloads).
[15:25] <mcphail> daftykins: it is if you want to mount the image. And you can pipe dd through bzip2
[15:25] <C_minus_> Does dd have the ability to clone the other partitions too?
[15:25] <daftykins> mcphail: so you're claiming you can't mount clonezilla's output? how odd.
[15:25] <mcphail> C_minus_: yes - it just gives a byte-for-byte image
[15:26] <mcphail> daftykins: I may be confused. I never claim not to be confused ;)
[15:26] <daftykins> just seems like you're promoting one over the other without knowing one to compare directly
[15:27] <mcphail> daftykins: dd is intrinsically easier because it is already installed
[15:27] <daftykins> total rubbish
[15:27] <daftykins> single package install from a live environment
[15:28] <OerHeks> dd needs sync afterwards, do not forget that.
[15:28] <mcphail> daftykins: This is going to degenerate into a matter of opinion
[15:28] <daftykins> it is if you're going to keep claiming something is easier in your opinion :)
[15:28] <C_minus_> so to get clonezilla, I boot up using my ubuntu LiveUSB, and then something like apt-get install clonezilla?
[15:29] <daftykins> yep
[15:29] <daftykins> as long as there's a working internet connection there, wouldn't hurt to chain together "sudo apt update && sudo apt install clonezilla"
[15:30] <daftykins> then you'll obviously need to plug in whatever additional storage you have, to image this disk to
[15:30] <C_minus_> ok i really need to do that before it's too late.
[15:30] <Braybaut> C_minus, Clonezilla is Distro, not installed from apt
[15:30] <mcphail> daftykins: "Due to the image format limitation, the image can not be explored or mounted." That may have changed, but that's what I had read and it is still on the main page
[15:30] <Charly41> why ubuntu has not it installed and active by default a good firewall? I want to install one that run autimatically when I start the system, which one do you advice to install?
[15:30] <daftykins> Braybaut: wrong. it is available in package form as well as freestanding bootable ISOs
[15:30] <cfhowlett> !ufw | Charly41
[15:30] <daftykins> !info clonezilla
[15:31] <daftykins> proof ^
[15:32] <cfhowlett> daftykins, would it not be advisable to clone from a liveCD rather than a login session?
[15:32] <Braybaut> daftykins, yes, installable from apt, Sorry
[15:32] <llldino> Just my two cents here, I find dd far easier to use over clonezilla for cloning disks or partitions, less software in the way of getting the job done imo
[15:32] <Charly41> cfhowlett, I have checked with iptables and it is not active, ufw is installed but incoming and outgoing traffic is all allowed
[15:32] <daftykins> cfhowlett: we were told that's what's being done ( a live session booted)
[15:32] <cfhowlett> Charly41, you have to activate ufw ...
[15:33] <daftykins> Charly41: are you not behind a NAT router already?
[15:34] <Charly41> cfhowlett, I have a modem ad home, with my isp brand on it
[15:34] <cfhowlett> daftykins, believe this is for you ^^^^
[15:34] <C_minus_> So just to clarify once more, I get a fresh external hard drive, larger than my laptop's hard drive, boot LiveUSB, install clonezilla, and ask it to make a perfect image of the hard drive?
[15:34] <daftykins> Charly41: so your computer receives your internet facing IP directly on the wired interface?
[15:35] <C_minus_> Then if something goes wrong, I can recover my old setup from a similar LiveUSb environment?
[15:35] <Charly41> daftykins, seems so yes
[15:35] <daftykins> C_minus_: yes disk to image copy - its' menus are pretty self explanatory, you'd format the external disk as anything you can store the image on
[15:35] <daftykins> Charly41: mmm yep time to play with ufw then - but this really depends on whether you're running any open externally facing services or not - grc.com has a handy little port scanner
[15:36] <daftykins> Charly41: i'd prefer to get a proper router myself ;)
[15:36] <C_minus_> Lovely, I'm going to go buy a new 1TB external drive. Hopefully I don't get any boot trouble in the interim.
[15:38] <Cardium> Hello i just started using linux by installing ubuntu on my desktop what should i expect?
[15:38] <cfhowlett> Cardium, fun.
[15:38] <Cardium> I already configured it some by using google
[15:39] <daftykins> Cardium: you need to ask actual support questions in here really, that was very vague.
[15:39] <cfhowlett> Cardium, www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads
[15:39] <compdoc> Cardium, expect to win the lottery
[15:39] <Charly41> daftykins, yes, well I just want the incoming traffic blocked, I can do it with gufw but I am not sure if I have to repeat the setting everytime I open the pc. Linux mint has one installed and active by defauld and I liked it. I would like to install the same but I am not sure how to do
[15:39] <Cardium> Ty cfhow
[15:39] <C_minus_> Dumb question, but just so I don't waste my money on something stupd, will any external HDD work?
[15:40] <daftykins> Charly41: likely not a good idea to put anything Mint on unless it's available in the repos, but i think you're worried over nothing
[15:40] <daftykins> C_minus_: depends what your system has available, i got a £16 (GBP) USB 3.0 with UASP enclosure recently and put a 2.5" laptop HDD inside it
[15:41] <cfhowlett> Charly41, check your ufw: sudo ufw status              *should* report "enabled"
[15:41] <daftykins> USB 3.0 with UASP is excellent for speed.
[15:41] <cfhowlett> Cardium, happy2help!
[15:42] <Cardium> Also any good sources to learn python offline?
[15:42] <C_minus_> Thanks guys later!
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Cardium, python.org has lots of downloadable content
[15:42] <Charly41> cfhowlett, status: inactive
[15:42] <daftykins> Cardium: i'd bet they have a good channel also
[15:42] <llldino> Cardium, I've been using this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4mEzFDjqtA  He goes quick but I like his style of teaching
[15:42] <cfhowlett> Charly41, sudo ufw enable        will turn it on
[15:43] <Cardium> Tyvm everyone =)
[15:43] <llldino> Cardium, Oh sorry, you clearly said offline >.(
[15:43] <cfhowlett> Cardium, enjoy ubuntu!
[15:43] <Cardium> I will enjoy it and llldino i will download it so it wont be a problem =)
[15:44] <Charly41> daftykins, yes there is not so much to worry but at least a damned firewall should be working on every os for the very basic protection :)
[15:44] <designbybeck> Ubuntu 14.04.3, I don't have my Date/Time on my bar at the top anymore. And when I go to Date/Time in SystemSettings and Click on Date/Time The options are greyed out
[15:44] <designbybeck> anyway to restart that process, without having to reboot?
[15:45] <daftykins> Charly41: no that's utter rubbish
[15:46] <mcphail> daftykins: I'm searching through the Clonezilla website. I can't see anything to suggest the image files can be directly mounted. Can you give me a link to a howto, and I'll be happy to recommend in the future?
[15:46] <cfhowlett> Charly41, there are good reasons why it is off.  and it is caveman easy to turn it on.
[15:47] <daftykins> mcphail: no it's not my responsibility to persuade you over to one thing versus another
[15:48] <designbybeck> nevermind, I found a fix
[15:48] <designbybeck> http://itsfoss.com/fix-date-time-missing-menu-bar-ubuntu-1310/
[15:53] <mcphail> daftykins: OK, then please be helpful and don't interrupt with bad advice. Thanks
[15:54] <daftykins> mcphail: i was being helpful and provided a far easier program to use than your suggestion of dd, don't ruin this channels purpose by taking things so personally.
[15:56] <mcphail> daftykins: If you read the advice in context, I was advising a clone of the partitiion to faciliate file recovery if his disk was failing. But, you are correct, this does not belong on-channel
[15:57] <daftykins> sounds like checking the SMART data from the live session should've been #1 - not stressing it with a full disk clone
[15:58] <daftykins> anyway, i tire of this
[15:58]  * mcphail agrees and offers handshake
[15:58] <daftykins> no.
[15:58] <mcphail> ahh well.
[15:59] <compdoc> mcfail
[15:59] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | compdoc
[16:08] <johnn> Can I use Ubuntu Snappy Core for the Pi Zero?
[16:09] <mcphail> johnn: not sure if there is an ARMv6 build. Best ask on #snappy
[16:10] <Braybaut> PiZero is ARMV6, Ubuntu Snappy found with Armv7
[16:10] <[Saint]> Hey, tfc_, cut that shit out.
[16:11] <cfhowlett> [Saint], no profanity in channel
[16:11] <rww> [Saint]: hrm?
[16:11] <rww> ah, PM spam I guess?
[16:11] <[Saint]> rww: ~200 lines of PM spam about Islam.
[16:12] <rww> yeah
[16:12] <rww> thanks, i'll get that fixed
[16:12] <cfhowlett> [Saint], report abuse to #ubuntu-ops
[16:12] <zykotick9> rww: i also got the Islam PM spam from tfc_
[16:12] <[Saint]> cfhowlett: sorry, honestly I thought I checked what channel this was, but apparently I failed.
[16:12] <[Saint]> Anger fueled.
[16:13]  * Uptime looks in
[16:13] <cfhowlett> [Saint], chillax  :)
[16:13] <[Saint]> oh, yeah, lots of 'em.
[16:14] <[Saint]> s/yeah/yay/
[16:14] <ikonia> uptime 91.196.34.134 warrents some invesigation
[16:14] <rww> psh ikonia, i was going straight for the k-line :P
[16:14] <ikonia> rww: I should have left it
[16:14] <[Saint]> absolutely.
[16:14] <[Saint]> banning is just going to start a fight you cant win unless you take out the entire telco.
[16:14] <[Saint]> which is ugly.
[16:15] <rww> [Saint]: yeah, they keep popping in from random IP addresses. network staff know about them, so we bounce it over to them and they get kicked off freenode
[16:15] <rww> anyways, back to our regularly scheduled support discussion :)
[16:15] <[Saint]> awesome. as an admin of a MUCH smaller channel, love what you guys do.
[16:16] <fooobarrr> I got the islam spam from rpx_
[16:16] <[Saint]> I feel special, I got it like 8 times.
[16:16] <[Saint]> anyhoo...
[16:16] <rww> fooobarrr: looks like they got nuked already :)
[16:17] <fooobarrr> yeah that was a while ago
[16:17] <[Saint]> imagine my surprise when quassel is backgrounded and I'm watching a movie and my notification tone fires...200 times.
[16:18] <cfhowlett> [Saint], doesn't quassel have /ignore functionality?
[16:19] <bgardner> [Saint]: I found setting usermode +R helped cut that down a lot.
[16:19] <[Saint]> cfhowlett: it does, and I was doing so, but it stopped just as I got around to it.
[16:20] <[Saint]> It took me a while to even figure out what that noise even was.
[16:23] <Charly41> daftykins, cfhowlett  thanks guys
[16:24] <cfhowlett> Charly41, happy2help!
[16:30] <BartekChom> \quit
[16:35] <pizzaguy> What is the root password in recovery mode?
[16:35] <pizzaguy> Doesnt ubuntu not have a root account by default? so does that mean I cant "drop to root shell prompt"?
[16:36] <akik> pizzaguy: it's unknown unless you change it
[16:36] <llldino> pizzaguy, You should be the root user in recovery mode
[16:36] <tgm4883> no password
[16:36] <llldino> pizzaguy, The root password is null by default in Ubuntu
[16:36] <akik> recovery mode asks for the root password
[16:36] <tgm4883> akik: then you probably changed it at some point
[16:36] <llldino> rather, diabled
[16:36] <pizzaguy> akik yes when I select 'drop to root shell prompt'
[16:37] <akik> tgm4883: yes i did
[16:37] <pizzaguy> But i never set up a root password
[16:37] <tro74n> hey there
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> pizzaguy  that's because there is no root passwor
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> d
[16:37] <pizzaguy> The problem I have is that my filesystem has errors and wont mount. Any suggestions?
[16:37] <tgm4883> by default it should just bring up the prompt
[16:38] <llldino> pizzaguy, What errors do you get when it won't mount?
[16:38] <tro74n> how to use ubuntu for beginer
[16:38] <cfhowlett> !manual | tro74n
[16:39] <pizzaguy> fsck says /dev/sdd1: Group descriptor 1457 checksum invalid; /dev/sdd1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY.
[16:39] <cfhowlett> tro74n, you might also enjoy www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads
[16:39] <tro74n> ok ...
[16:39] <llldino> pizzaguy, Did you run fsck manually? q:
[16:39] <pizzaguy> Im unable to run it manually if I dont have a root prompt I can access
[16:39] <tro74n> chhowlett thanks for information..
[16:40] <cfhowlett> tro74n, happy2help!
[16:40] <llldino> pizzaguy, You'll have to use a live CD to run fsck on the filesystem
[16:40] <pizzaguy> Okay Ill try a live cd
[16:41] <llldino> pizzaguy, That would be your easiest option, failing that you can use single user mode but using a live CD is safer
[16:42] <llldino> Drop a shell on the Live CD and run as root "fsck -fy /location/of/filesystem"
[16:43] <akik> tgm4883: do you mean that if i hadn't changed the root password, the recovery mode wouldn't ask for it?
[16:43] <tgm4883> akik:
[16:43] <tgm4883> akik: correct
[16:43] <pizzaguy> llldino: honestly, I dont know the location of the filesystem
[16:43] <akik> interesting
[16:44] <pizzaguy> well i guess each partition has its own
[16:44] <llldino> pizzaguy, I believe you can run fsck on the device node but i've never done it, so that would be /dev/sdXY, make sure you double check it's not mounted
[16:47] <pizzaguy> ugh live cd shows "Disk has many bad sectors" I think this is the result of a system crash possibly in addition to it trying to fix itself
[16:47] <llldino> pizzaguy, Is the drive old? What did you do?!
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> pizzaguy  havent followed ... what got your system in this situation? what brings you here?
[16:49] <linuxuserwannabe> what's the easiest way to install the latest version of nmcli (part of network-manager package) in Kubuntu 14.04?
[16:49] <pizzaguy> lldino: yes the drive is kinda old
[16:50] <pizzaguy> MonkeyDust, lldino: So I think the cpu fan is messed up and the computer just turned off after getting too hot, and thats when this started
[16:50] <OerHeks> linuxuserwannabe, better ask in #kubuntu, not sure why you think you need a newer version
[16:50] <pizzaguy> MonkeyDust: The filesystem wont mount due too errors
[16:50] <linuxuserwannabe> there are some parameters that are only supported in the latest version
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> linuxuserwannabe  if it's in the repos: use apt-get install ... if it's not in the repos: find a .deb or ppa or so, but that's not supported here
[16:50] <llldino> pizzaguy, Yeah if it won't mount and fsck won't run you might be done.
[16:50] <OerHeks> linuxuserwannabe, and what version is that? url?
[16:51] <llldino> pizzaguy, What is the exact output of "fsck"
[16:51] <pizzaguy> llldino: What are the chances that "Disk has many bad sectors" is fixable?
[16:51] <pizzaguy> let me check
[16:51] <linuxuserwannabe> OerHeks: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/wily/man1/nmcli.1.html
[16:51] <llldino> Don't run while it's mounted!
[16:52] <pizzaguy> how do i make sure its not mounted
[16:52] <pizzaguy> df?
[16:52] <llldino> Just type "mount" to get a list of whats mounted
[16:52] <linuxuserwannabe> OerHeks: I need to use "con mod" param
[16:52] <llldino> Is your root filesystem on this hard drive?"
[16:53] <OerHeks> linuxuserwannabe, upgrade to 15.0 or build it yourself?
[16:53] <OerHeks> * 15.10
[16:54] <pizzaguy> fsck yields "One or more group descriptor checksums are invalid Fix<y>?"
[16:54] <pizzaguy> try to fix it yes?
[16:54] <linuxuserwannabe> OerHeks: build the whole package (network-manager)? I only need nmcli
[16:54] <llldino> pizzaguy, Yeah
[16:55] <OerHeks> linuxuserwannabe, yes, else you might run into issues, likely
[16:55] <frostschutz> pizzaguy, don't run fsck on bad drives.
[16:55] <pizzaguy> frostschutz: ummm oops
[16:55] <pizzaguy> What do you mean by bad?
[16:56] <pizzaguy> I believe it isnt as bad as my machine thinks it is
[16:57] <sudomarize> I'm getting a permission denied error when trying to fwrite to a file in /var/www/html on my apache server (php). How can i resolve this?
[16:58] <pizzaguy> lldino: Error reading block X (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while getting next inode from scan. Ignore error<y>?
[16:58] <pizzaguy> llldino
[16:58] <linuxuserwannabe> OerHeks: yeah, I suppose I might run into issues either way (building the whole package and cherry pick the nmcli). Thanks anyway.
[16:58] <llldino> pizzaguy, Yeah keep going
[16:59] <OerHeks> sudomarize, learn the basics, add your user to www-data >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/19898/whats-the-simplest-way-to-edit-and-add-files-to-var-www
[17:00] <sudomarize> thanks
[17:00] <pizzaguy> What does force rewrite mean, llldino
[17:02] <llldino> pizzaguy, It means there's a discrepancy between what the filesystem is reporting and what the disk thinks the filesystem has
[17:04] <llldino> pizzaguy, As long as it's unmounted it's safe to say yes to that
[17:05] <frostschutz> ...
[17:07] <pizzaguy> okay, just cleared a bunch of unused/deleted inodes
[17:07] <llldino> pizzaguy, cool, do a restart and hopefully you're gold
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> pizzaguy  i foud this in a book:   sudo badblocks -v /dev/...
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> found*
[17:09] <pizzaguy> llldino should i try it again to make sure its good to go?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> pizzaguy  or even   sudo fsck -TV /dev/...
[17:10] <llldino> pizzaguy, Yeah, try mounting it again if thats what you mean
[17:10] <pizzaguy> boom mountable
[17:11] <llldino> pizzaguy, Cool I feel super smart haha
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> !cookie | llldino
[17:11] <guest> Is there some software firewall that can filter based on the reverse DNS record of an IP?
[17:11] <guest> I want to filter all traffic not from a CDN
[17:11] <guest> and the IPs are enormous and ever-changing, but the reverse DNS matches a pattern always
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> guest  try fwbuilder
[17:12] <pizzaguy> Trying to boot, theres a blinking underscore in top left
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> pizzaguy  that can be fix with nomodeset (no mode set)
[17:13] <llldino> pizzaguy, It will mount but not boot? Maybe use the Live CD and reinstall grub onto that drive
[17:13] <pizzaguy> grub loaded
[17:13] <pizzaguy> fine
[17:14] <pizzaguy> ohh, waiting a bit longer worker :)
[17:15] <llldino> pizzaguy, Do you have backups? If you can read off of it, now's a great time to make a backup
[17:16] <pizzaguy> I was going to buy a qnap nas in a month or two
[17:17] <pizzaguy> I have six drives in my computer and dont even know whats on most of them
[17:17] <llldino> pizzaguy, It's always important to have a good backup, even if it's on an external hdd. You never know when a drive is going to fail!
[17:18] <pizzaguy> If I pull out all 6 drives put it in another computer and make sure the boot sequence is the same, then should it just work flawlessly as it is now?
[17:18] <cfhowlett> ... *should* ....
[17:19] <pizzaguy> cfhowlett: What might be problematic?
[17:21] <dimitarodohrid> Hey guys, I have a .tar file that when i extract all the files have .gz extension. There are a lot of files, how do i unpack this archive?
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> !gz | dimitarodohrid
[17:23] <zykotick9> dimitarodohrid: using something like this _might_ work?!: for f in *.gz ; do gunzip $f ; done
[17:24] <dimitarodohrid> zykotick9: thank you will try that. I'm very confused why the archive would be done that way though
[17:24] <llldino> pizzaguy, If you're booting Linux that should be fine but Windows doesn't like it when you do stuff like that
[17:25] <zykotick9> dimitarodohrid: it's _strange_ packaging for sure.
[17:26] <goddard> wwhat should I use to get a visual look at the path to a destination IP?
[17:27] <llldino> goddard, traceroute
[17:27] <nacc> goddard: how visual? traceroute, e.g.?
[17:27] <Lifip> Hi I've Installed 14.04 on a 8gb sd card, however I need more space and want to transfere to a 32gb sd card. is there a way to do tthis or would it be easier to just new install on the new 32gb card?
[17:27] <xebra> hi, what's responsible for the message like "The program 'whatever' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing...", in bash? Is it part of bash, a feature? It's not available everywhere
[17:28] <llldino> xebra, I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/309178/ask-to-install-program-after-the-program-x-is-currently-not-installed
[17:29] <llldino> I knew it was a package and not a bash feature, just didn't know which one
[17:30] <xebra> llldino, oh, thanks
[17:32] <goddard> llldino: thanks
[17:32] <pizzaguy> Okay, I just want a simple backup via copy/paste. What folders should I backup other than /home?
[17:32] <rickardo1> I can't perform apt-get -f install because lack of space on /boot  Is there a way I can expand this volume?
[17:33] <llldino> pizzaguy, What kind of data do you consider "essential"? I personally take everything but I could just as easily take /home myself
[17:34] <cfhowlett> rickardo1, df  -H | nc termbin.com 9999           paste the url here
[17:35] <rickardo1> cfhowlett: http://termbin.com/n1he
[17:35] <Cristian_> Hello
[17:35] <pizzaguy> llldino, any files i create/download, and application data such as bookmarks is all i can think of
[17:35] <cfhowlett> rickardo1, yep.   full boot drive.
[17:35] <cfhowlett> rickardo1, /boot partition that is.
[17:35] <Cristian_> Does anyone know which version of intel graphics driver is included in ubuntu 14.04.3?
[17:35] <rickardo1> cfhowlett: How could that happend?
[17:36] <rickardo1> cfhowlett: Shouldn't that be handled by the system?
[17:36] <cfhowlett> rickardo1, happens cause you never cleaned out your old kernels.
[17:36] <llldino> pizzaguy, Well, most files you create and download probably end up in /home. Also, if you use firefox all your settings/bookmarks .etc are stored in /home.mozilla
[17:36] <rickardo1> cfhowlett: Any solution?
[17:36] <llldino> pizzaguy, So you're probably safe with just taking /home
[17:36] <BluesKaj> rickardo1:  in the future consider using a 15G / partition rather than a boot plus a /home partition of course
[17:36] <cfhowlett> rickardo1, try sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:37] <BluesKaj> and autoclean
[17:38] <pizzaguy> llldino, where are appropriate locations for other browsers to save bookmarks and other apps to save application data like settings and stuff?
[17:39] <pizzaguy> even though /home might be all i need i wouldnt mind overestimating a little
[17:39] <smart> any one know how to edit the panel in ZorinOS 10?
[17:39] <OerHeks> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel trusty
[17:39] <cfhowlett> smart, zorin is not supported here.  this is ubuntu.
[17:39] <cfhowlett> !zorin | smart
[17:39] <OerHeks> smart, zorin-os is not supported here
[17:39] <OerHeks> they have their own issues
[17:39] <smart> where can I go then?
[17:39] <llldino> pizzaguy, I'd expect applications to save all user controlled setting in the /home directory of that user
[17:39] <cfhowlett> smart, errr, look in the help menu??
[17:40] <OerHeks> smart, check their wiki?
[17:40] <strk> build-essential is installed but both autoconf and libtool are missing, what's the deal ? ubuntu-12.04
[17:40] <llldino> pizzaguy, Global settings for programs sometimes end up in /etc however
[17:40] <TJ-> strk: probably you need to match specific versions
[17:41] <Cristian_> Does anyone know which version of intel graphics stack is included in ubuntu 14.04.3? is it 2014Q4?
[17:41] <pizzaguy> Is there a way i can open File Browser with sudo privledges?
[17:41] <cfhowlett> pizzaguy, yes, but you really shouldn't need to do that
[17:41] <legionCyber> Is anyone else having issues getting booted out of Ubuntu back to the login screen?
[17:41] <TJ-> strk: build-essential doesn't depend on autoconf/automake/libtool though
[17:41] <BluesKaj> Cristian_:  think it's the i915 driver for most intel gpus on 14.104
[17:42] <legionCyber> I'll be working away, then all of the sudden, xorg crashes and I get booted to the login screen, losing all my work in the process.
[17:42] <BluesKaj> 14.04
[17:42] <OerHeks> Cristian_, ubottu says  2:2.99.910-0ubuntu1.6 (trusty)
[17:42] <cfhowlett> legionCyber, "anyone else" questions are a huge waste of bandwidth.  rephrase your question:  YOUR issues and YOUR details.
[17:42] <pizzaguy> the folder X cannot be handled because you dont have permessions to read it
[17:42] <cfhowlett> rickardo1, did we lose you?
[17:43] <llldino> pizzaguy, What are you trying to do?
[17:43] <bbt> world
[17:43] <strk> TJ-: TJ- got it, thanks
[17:43] <pizzaguy> copy /home to another drive
[17:43] <TJ-> legionCyber: check the log files; start with /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but also the per-user $HOME/.xsession-errors
[17:43] <bbt> hello world, where are they from?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett:  rickardo1 is still in the nicklist, maybe afk
[17:44] <llldino> pizzaguy, A very dirty way to do what you want would be "sudo cp -ar /home /location/of/where/you/want/it
[17:45] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, I'll hang a bit.  we were trying to spring clean his overfilled /boot
[17:45] <Cristian_> BluesKaj: thanks, I'm trying to figure out to which graphics stack version according to intel numeration that driver belongs to
[17:46] <llldino> pizzaguy, But I would consider compressing /home with tar first and then maybe look at using rsync and cron to run a scheduled backup to a dedicated location, maybe something to look into when you get your NAS?
[17:46] <Cristian_> it seems there are  2014Q2 and 2014Q4 versions, the last one has h.265 hardware decode which I am trying to get running
[17:46] <pizzaguy> how much would 400gb tar compressions yield
[17:47] <BluesKaj> Cristian_:  my laptop uses it for the 4000 series
[17:48] <BluesKaj> Cristian_:  I'm not familiar with those numbers
[17:49] <pizzaguy> ohh god 10hrs eta
[17:49] <llldino> pizzaguy, 400 GB in /home? Geez.. I'm not sure, with gzip maybe like 150-300.. I'm not sure. With bzip maybe more compression
[17:50] <llldino> Maybe consider clearing some stuff you don't need
[17:50] <pizzaguy> I really dont know what there is. i had the computer off for a few years. i probably have a few vm's
[17:50] <pizzaguy> llldino: Is it going to be a problem, If i am copying to an ntfs drive?
[17:51] <TJ-> pizzaguy: it's likely with that amount of data much if it is in files that are already heavily compressed, so being selective might speed things up a lot
[17:51] <dromar56> pizzaguy: you can check very fast with "ncdu" what exactly are those 400gb
[17:51] <llldino> pizzaguy, Not at all. You can also do "du -h --max-depth=1 /home" to see what sub directories are taking up space
[17:52] <llldino> Rather change the 1 to a 2
[17:52] <dromar56> or use ncdu, it's really great for this kind of things
[17:52] <dromar56> I use it for this exact situation, finding out what do I need to backup
[17:53] <jjjasper> ntfs shouldn't be an issue, just make sure you cleanly unmount it
[17:54] <llldino> ^ Yeah windows gets pissed when you don't do that
[17:55] <brontosaurusrex> llldino: or a script like: du -hca --max-depth=1 "$@" | sort -h
[17:56] <pizzaguy> Is copy/paste via File Browser ordered in any way, such as BFS?
[17:56] <lsh> slightly OT, don't know where to ask else: I'm about to publish my first paper, need some help and possible a review of it first. is there a channel to help me?
[17:57] <llldino> brontosaurusrex, Yes, that's a much cleaner way of doing that
[17:57] <cfhowlett> lsh, "slightly"?
[17:57] <cfhowlett> lsh, see ##english
[17:58] <llldino> pizzaguy, I could be wrong, but I think in File Browser it's just evoking cp in the background
[17:58] <mika_> join #ubuntu-fr
[17:58] <pizzaguy> is that dfs then?
[17:58] <mika_> how to join ubuntu-fr
[17:59] <cfhowlett> mika_, correct command:   /join #ubuntu-fr
[17:59] <mika_> thanks
[18:01] <fartface> If I wanted to rename all files with a filetype of *.foo to *.foo_bar recursively inside of a folder, what's the easiest way to go about that
[18:01] <fartface> I wanna say it's using `find`, but I can't remember how to just append something to the filename
[18:02] <pizzaguy> aha, I have a folder called 3TB-Backup that is almost 300gb lol
[18:04] <OerHeks> mv *.foo *.foo_bar
[18:05] <lsh> cfhowlett thx :)
[18:05] <cfhowlett> lsh, happy2help!
[18:05] <lsh> do you by chance also know if there is a http channel
[18:05] <lsh> for the http protocol
[18:06] <cfhowlett> !alis | lsh
[18:06] <MonkeyDust> lsh  type   /msg alis list http
[18:06] <lsh> nice! thx for your help
[18:06] <TJ-> lsh: for the protocol itself? possibly ##networking, or for apache httpd server #httpd
[18:11] <rickardo1> cfhowlett: Sry, was interrupted.. autoremove solved it (y) ty v much..
[18:11] <cfhowlett> rickardo1, nice.
[18:11] <fartface> OerHeks: but recursively
[18:12] <OerHeks> mv -R *.foo *.foo_bar
[18:12] <OerHeks> time to read some basic manual
[18:13] <fartface> OerHeks: mv is not ls, -R is not a valid flag
[18:14] <legionCyber> TJ-: There are a handful of these entries in my $HOME/.xsession-errors log.  upstart: upstart-event-bridge main process (18869) terminated with status 1 upstart: upstart-event-bridge respawning too fast, stopped
[18:14] <fartface> You were saying about reading a basic manual?
[18:15] <fartface> rm* not ls
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> fartface  if you don't get an answer here, try in #bash
[18:15] <fartface> Cheers
[18:16] <OerHeks> hmm indeed, -R is invalid
[18:16] <TJ-> legionCyber: does the log end with those? if it doesn't I'd suspect they're incidental - unfortunately a lot of the GUI programs generate warnings/errors which are captured in that log-file but the devs seem to ignore fixing them
[18:17] <Algebr`> Why oh why does ubuntu's apt-get or aptitude always want to remove unrelated stuff that will destroy my system?? http://pastebin.com/dCxdmjS7
[18:19] <TJ-> fartface: how about "find /path/to/base/dir -type d -execdir rename 's/\.foo$/\.foo_bar/' *.foo \;" - not sure when the "*" will be exanded by the shell though - might need to be quoted to protect it from the interactive shell
[18:20] <fartface> TJ- that's basically what I was planning, -exec 'mv {} {}_backup' but I can only include one pair of braces to spit out the filename, and I couldn't remember how to capture the result
[18:21] <llldino> fartface, There's probably a fancy way to do it using a for statement, but my bash isn't that great
[18:21] <TJ-> Algebr`: it's not unrelated - apt is following the dependency graph. libimobiledevice4 is depended on by other packages. If you remove it, they have to be removed too (to prevent breakages). If other packages depend on those, then the removal cascades
[18:21] <fartface> llldino: makes two of us lol
[18:21] <TJ-> fartface: use -execdir rather tha -exec its more targeted, and safer
[18:22] <fartface> Cheers
[18:22] <Algebr`> TJ-: there is no logical connection between the gnome-session-manager and libimobiledevice4
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> Algebr`  maybe indirectly, through another package - a removal cascade, as TJ- says
[18:23] <TJ-> Algebr`: incorrect: gnome-session-bin depends on upower, which is a reverse-depends of libimobiledevice4
[18:24] <TJ-> Algebr`: I'd reconsider the reason for wanting to remove the library, and if there is an alternative to doing that
[18:24] <Algebr`> TJ-: I see, then what can I do in these situations, how can I safely remove libimobiledevice wihtout damning the rest of the system
[18:24] <Algebr`> but this is silly, I installed it via aptitude and now want to remove it but can't cause it will destory other stuff
[18:24] <bithon> hello
[18:24] <bithon> i have a problem with my home server (it's ubuntu 14.04 64-bit) and its high memory usage
[18:25] <bithon> i run my server inside of a vbox
[18:25] <TJ-> Algebr`: other packages that may have been installed since then depend on it
[18:25] <bithon> and basically ssh to it. but, looking at free -h it says that 4 gb are allocated even though i don't really have anything running
[18:25] <Algebr`> all software is broken
[18:26] <bithon> Algebr`: all your base are belong to us? that sort of thing : p
[18:26] <TJ-> bithon: are you sure about that? 'free' reports include the buffers and cache
[18:26] <bithon> oh i see now TJ-
[18:27] <bithon> you're right. there is 2.6Gb of cached data
[18:27] <bithon> but still it's kind of odd
[18:27] <TJ-> !atemyram | bithon if you're interested
[18:27] <TJ-> bithon: You're seeing a symptom of the Linux kernel being ultra-efficient
[18:28] <bithon> TJ-: Should I be worried?
[18:28] <bithon> :D
[18:28] <TJ-> bithon: no, you should be pleased ... more cache/buffers means less real I/O reads
[18:29] <fartface> For those who were curious, this is what worked: find . -name '*.foo' -exec sh -c 'mv "{}" "{}bar"' ';'
[18:29] <bithon> ah i see. well thank you for the clarification TJ-. Have a good one ;)
[18:34] <huehue> morning guys
[18:34] <huehue> help with UCK
[18:34] <Giant81-> inplace upgrading to 15.10
[18:34] <Giant81-> we'll see how that goes
[18:34] <huehue> unknow uid 1000. how are you?
[18:35] <Braybaut> huehue, unknow uid 1000 ???
[18:37] <huehue> Braybaut: i use uck to make an ubuntu 12.04 upgrade and some aplications... i'm lost my internet conection, i try restart service but no go.
[18:37] <huehue> Braybaut: sudo uknown uid 1000: how are you?
[18:38] <Braybaut> huehue, UCK, Ubuntu Customization Kit ?
[18:38] <huehue> yes
[18:39] <huehue> Braybaut: yes man
[18:39] <Braybaut> show result id in console, huehue
[18:39] <TJ-> huehue: well, what have you added that expects to find the default user account by its UID (1000 is the first UID allocatred)
[18:39] <huehue> TJ-: only use " sudo apt-get upgrade -y" to install last updates!!
[18:40] <Braybaut> find the user as UID 1000 huehue
[18:40] <huehue> Braybaut: my user!
[18:41] <TJ-> huehue: without the complete context - the command(s) you're using and more background - we can't really help
[18:41] <blip-> hi all, I have an old version of eclipse installed and I don't remember how I uninstalled it.  I don't have the main eclipse package from the repos (but I do have eclipse-cdt).     Removing those packages doesn't remove eclipse
[18:42] <mekhami> i'm having a problem with apt-get update hanging on 'waiting for headers'
[18:42] <blip-> i also dont have a the standalone eclipse installer in my Downloads, how did i install this thing
[18:42] <TJ-> blip-: if you don't know, how would we!? :D
[18:42] <huehue> TJ-: UCk bug? Change any on my system, chroot etc :/
[18:43] <TJ-> blip-:  if the files came from the archives then "dpkg -S /some/path/to/existing/file" will tell you which package installed the file
[18:43] <huehue> Braybaut: http://pastebin.com/fUikFkUn
[18:43] <huehue> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/fUikFkUn
[18:44] <blip-> TJ, yeah its odd.  the standalone installer wouldnt have me install select packages from the ubuntu repos
[18:44] <blip-> TJ-, either way, i dont know how to uninstall it now
[18:44] <chow_net>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER chow_net lqyhlxbebvrr
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> chow_net  change your password
[18:45] <valtrip> out of topic -- but anybody a way to hide bookmarks bar on webpage load in mozilla like it does in chrome and reappear on new tab ,,
[18:45] <TJ-> blip-: well, if 'dpkg -S' doesn't show it installed by the package manager you should be safe to delete the dirs/files directly
[18:45] <huehue> Braybaut: rene:x:1000:1000:Carlos Rene,,,:/home/rene:/bin/bash
[18:45] <chow_net> MonkeyDust, yeah,thx
[18:46]  * HackerII steal lqyhlxbebvrr
[18:46] <blip-> TJ-, thank you
[18:46] <TJ-> huehue: that pastebin doesn't show any "unknown uid 1000" but it does show a DNS resolver failure
[18:47] <I-am-Groot> Hello, I just installed VS Code and the installation only required that i extracted the files from a zip i downloaded. Which i have done and it runs perfectly. I even created an icon for it. My problem now is that, i need it to show up when i right click on a text file just like gedit and the rest does.
[18:47] <I-am-Groot> How do i accomplish this?
[18:48] <huehue> TJ-: Upgrade chroot package  in some way this change my system and lost conection.
[18:49] <huehue> TJ-: Braybaut i'll try again and get logs
[18:50] <TJ-> huehue: that's great; without the evidence and clues we can't be much help
[18:50] <LPH24> Hello all. :)
[18:51] <I-am-Groot> Hello! Anyone to help me with my problem?
[18:52] <LPH24> What's the problem?
[18:52] <I-am-Groot> Hello, I just installed VS Code and the installation only required that i extracted the files from a zip i downloaded. Which i have done and it runs perfectly. I even created an icon for it. My problem now is that, i need it to show up when i right click on a text file just like gedit and the rest does.
[18:52] <I-am-Groot> How do i accomplish this?
[18:52] <OerHeks> I-am-Groot, what is "VS Code" ??
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> I-am-Groot  repeat your question every 15 minutes, not every 5 minutes
[18:53] <I-am-Groot> Its a text editor and IDE. Like Sublime text and Brackets
[18:53] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[18:53] <LPH24> So you can't right click it then choose 'other application'?
[18:53] <I-am-Groot> No, it doesnt show up in the list
[18:53] <huehue> TJ-: Braybaut: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30344638/Captura%20de%20tela%20de%202016-01-04%2015%3A50%3A41.png
[18:54] <valtrip> I-am_Groot : make it default application
[18:54] <OerHeks> I-am-Groot, i think you want nautilus-extentions and write a script for the menu>>  http://askubuntu.com/questions/21953/how-do-i-customize-the-context-menu-in-nautilus
[18:54] <I-am-Groot> But it doesnt even show up in the list
[18:54] <chow_net> Please,where can I ask for a cloak?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> chow_net  in ##freenode
[18:54] <OerHeks> chow_net, join #freenode ans ask a helper
[18:55] <OerHeks> and*
[18:55] <chow_net> ok,thanx again
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> vs code is visual studio code, is what i read here
[18:56] <I-am-Groot> Yes it is
[18:56] <I-am-Groot> It can also be used as a text editor
[18:59] <maid3> can somebody help me with proFTPd under unbuntu
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> maid3: maybe the #proftpd guys can?
[19:02] <frostythesnowman> hi, every time i try to install a package on my ubuntu machine with apt-get, it tries to install nautilus-dropbox first, and freezes.  does anyone know how to remove nautilus-dropbox from apt-get's auto-install config so it stops trying automatically?
[19:02] <huehue> TJ-: Braybaut: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30344638/Captura%20de%20tela%20de%202016-01-04%2016%3A01%3A32.png
[19:02] <huehue> i try only this!
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> !info bonnie++ | MonkeyDust
[19:05] <legionCyber> TJ-:  Yes, the log file ends in those.  It's a bummer these are not fixed asap because getting booted out causes loss of work/data in some cases.
[19:05] <I-am-Groot> OerHeks, Thanks for ur input, i read through that page, But it doesnt really work as i want it. I want VS Code to show up in this list http://imgur.com/qbIFZpf
[19:06] <frostythesnowman> anyone? :\
[19:08] <BluesKaj> frostythesnowman:  did you add a ppa for instaling nautilus-dropbox?
[19:08] <TJ-> legionCyber: it doesn't help us that those log entries aren't timestamped so we don't know if they are related to the session crash. You might find something else/more useful in the logs under /var/log/lightdm/ (maybe an error code when the user session dies). Also, when it does crash DO NOT log back in via the GUI (otherwise you'll erase the $HOME/.xsession-errors file. Instead, switch to a TTY console with
[19:08] <TJ-> Alt+Ctrl+F1, log-in, and check the $HOME/.xsession-errors file before it gets truncated. Maybe copy it to another file to save it, then you can return to the GUI with Alt+F7 and log-in the GUI
[19:09] <frostythesnowman> BluesKaj: i think i may have.  i don't remember how i got into this state unfortunately.
[19:09] <frostythesnowman> BluesKaj: I was originally trying to install dropbox, and having trouble, and eventaully gave up.  i don't think i reset the changes i amde.
[19:09] <frostythesnowman> If I did add the PPA, how would i remove it?
[19:10] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: the backdrop to that is using the XDG mime-types  registration to add your program registered as a handler for text/plain ... but as to how you do that via Unity/Gnome - no idea!
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> frostythesnowman  sudo aptitude purge ~c   <-- that's a tilde
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> frostythesnowman  that's for dropbox, not for the ppa
[19:11] <BluesKaj> frostythesnowman:  open your /etc/apt/sources.list with root permissions and remove the dropbox ppa, save the file, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> oh, dropbox with a ppa?
[19:11] <Apachez> any hints regarding powersaving/tweaking when using ubuntu 15.10 on a hp pavilion 15 laptop? is laptop-mode-tools still valid today or not (seems to exist contradicting answers to that)?
[19:11] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust:  not sure if it is a ppa
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | Apachez yes
[19:12] <frostythesnowman> hmm, i don't see a dropbox ppa in my sources.list file
[19:12] <frostythesnowman> and when i rune sudo aptitude purge ~c, it tries to install dropbox again and then it freezes
[19:12] <ph88> how can i get nautilus to display the image width height in the status popup at the bottom ?
[19:12] <I-am-Groot> TJ, Thanks
[19:13] <I-am-Groot> I guess i will have to do more research on it
[19:14] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: I think it can be as simple as a mime-type line in the .desktop file you create for the application
[19:17] <BluesKaj> frostythesnowman:  run sudo dpkg --configure -a then sudo apt-get -f install then it might install dropbox since it seems it's installation was inr=terrupted
[19:17] <BluesKaj> interrupted
[19:17] <frostythesnowman> BluesKaj: i tried that too, but dpkg --configure -a tries to restart the installation of nautilus-dropbox which freezes
[19:18] <frostythesnowman> that was actually the original problem i was trying to fix, to no avail
[19:18] <TJ-> I-am-Groot: aha! read the sub-section "Shared MIME database package" for background, and then go to the end of the page and follow the link for "Desktop entry specification" and in the 'specs' page see the "Registering MIME Types" section
[19:19] <posix4e> Got this weird bug. Calling apt-get upgrade in a vagrant now and when we get to the grub menu, it mangles the terminal
[19:19] <posix4e> any ideas
[19:19] <TJ-> I-am-Groot the page is at http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/shared-mime-info-spec/
[19:20] <stefan_X1> apt-get update? instead of upgrade?
[19:20] <posix4e> i do an update
[19:20] <posix4e> and then an upgrade
[19:20] <posix4e> alas i need it
[19:21] <posix4e> maybe there's a way to exclude a package from upgrade
[19:21] <anabain> I'm on the ubuntu installer. How can I upgrade my installer before going on?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> frostythesnowman:  dunno if this will work, but...... sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:22] <huehue> TJ-: Braybaut: start upgrade chroot!
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> anabain  upgrade your installer?
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> anabain  meaning?
[19:22] <Braybaut> huehue, from chroot the upgrade ?
[19:22] <huehue> UCK
[19:23] <huehue> Braybaut: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30344638/Captura%20de%20tela%20de%202016-01-04%2016%3A01%3A32.png
[19:24] <Braybaut> huehue, your speaks spanish ?
[19:24] <anabain> that's what a windows says when trying to install, MonkeyDust : "read version notes" and the upgrade option, but it's suddenly disappeared (kubuntu 15.10 installer)
[19:24] <anabain> weird, MonkeyDust
[19:24] <huehue> Braybaut: No, Portuguese brasilian :-)
[19:24] <Braybaut> huehue, ok
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> anabain  windows has nothing to do with ubuntu
[19:25] <Braybaut> huehue, what not use upgrade from dist-upgrade ??
[19:25] <TJ-> posix4e: how does the output get mangled? the connection is over SSH yes? so any change in the locales between the host and the VM could cause issues, or more likely the console terminal encoding e.g: UTF-8 vs ISO-8859
[19:25] <frostythesnowman> BluesKaj: hmm, same result as sudo dpkg --configure -a.  it freezes midway, and then i have to forcefully exit the process
[19:25] <huehue> Braybaut: i'm not upgrade kernel
[19:25] <posix4e> TJ-: *nod
[19:25] <anabain> MonkeyDust, what lead to you that I was talking about W$?
[19:26] <MonkeyDust> anabain  "that's what a windows says when trying to install, MonkeyDust "
[19:27] <anabain> my fault -> window, singular, not plural, sorry
[19:27] <anabain> MonkeyDust, ^
[19:27] <BluesKaj> frostythesnowman:  exp-alin freezes , what freezes?
[19:27] <dupingping> Hi, popey
[19:27] <dupingping> Happy New Year!
[19:28] <frostythesnowman> BluesKaj: it freezes here no matter how long i leave it up: https://gist.github.com/boxbeatsy/14ddc4f94afeccf63c3b
[19:28] <Braybaut> huehue, upgrate Os system and not kernel ?
[19:30] <BluesKaj> frostythesnowman:  sudo dpkg -r nautilus-dropbox
[19:30] <maid3> hey on ubuntu lamp there is not phpmyadmin installed right
[19:31] <keli> hi
[19:31] <Braybaut> hi k
[19:31] <Braybaut> hi keli
[19:32] <TJ-> frostythesnowman: try "sudo dpkg --audit nautilus-dropbox"
[19:32] <maid3> is on ubuntu LAMP also phpmyadmin
[19:32] <argi> hi
[19:32] <frostythesnowman> BluesKaj: yesss, that worked. thanks!
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  +1
[19:33] <frostythesnowman> :D
[19:35] <frostythesnowman> maid3: maybe not by default.  if it's not installed, you just do sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin, and then if you're running apache go to /var/www and create a symbolic link to the installation location of phpmyadmin
[19:35] <cordyceps> how come when I type vim in a terminal it says "not installed" but when I enter vi, vim starts?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> frostythesnowman: doh, it was the first command I thought of , but sometimes things aren't as complicated as we thinl :-)
[19:41] <TJ-> cordyceps: because '/usr/bin/vi' is satisfied by vim.tiny or vim.basic, see "update-alternatives --display vi"
[19:43] <anabain> can anybody tell me why I'm not getting the primary/logical option when partitioning at kubuntu 15.10 install?
[19:43] <cordyceps> how come when I type vim in a terminal it says "not installed" but when I enter vi, vim starts?
[19:44] <TJ-> anabain: it's using GPT not MsDOS partitioning
[19:45] <jarvin> Can my computer run ubuntu http://postimg.org/image/jklrw9hx3/full/
[19:46] <TJ-> cordyceps: check the update-alternatives as I suggested. for 'vim' it is only satisfied by vim.basic (which is 'vim-tiny' vs 'vim' packages)
[19:46] <anabain> TJ-, ok thanks
[19:46] <TJ-> anabain: if it is using GPT the default is space for 128 partitions
[19:47] <cordyceps> TJ-: thanks didn't notice the first time ;(
[19:51] <huehue> Braybaut: no go
[19:51] <mrsam__> hi...How can creat a new partitiation in linux?
[19:51] <lilwiz> mrsam___ gparted usually does the job
[19:52] <mrsam__> lilwiz : i cant do this with gpart
[19:52] <lilwiz> mrsam__, why not?
i dont know why
[19:53] <anabain> Tj-, ok, mystery solved
[19:53] <lilwiz> mrsam__, are you running it in terminal or on a live-usb?
[19:53] <anabain> TJ ^
[19:53] <cycliam> Hello. I'm trying to build a mainline kernel. I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/hk3uF9e0 . The only hit for the term in Google is that very pastebin, posted by someone else 6 days ago.
im install ubuntu
[19:54] <lilwiz> mrsam__, create a live usb-stick with gparted live, it will definitely be able to create partitions if you can't accomplish it through terminal on ubuntu
[19:55] <ztane> is there an applet for controlling the bluetooth (power on / off)
[19:55] <anabain> TJ-, ok, mystery solved: when installing, at first, you get the option "upgrade your installer" next to the "read version notes". If you click it you activate the GPT method. If you don't, then you do msdos partitioning.
hum tnx...can i do this with windows cd?
[19:55] <ztane> I'd want to have bluetooth be killed by default... but having "rfkill" in rc.local does sound a bit 70s to me...
[19:56] <anabain> TJ-, when installing kubuntu 15.10
[19:56] <lilwiz> mrsam__, you can create gparted live usb with ubuntu, scroll down and read instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[19:56] <mrsam__> so tnx :)
[19:56] <MonkeyDust> mrsam__  how are you installing ubuntu?
with ISO
[19:57] <ztane> there is gparted in the default live iirc
[19:58] <ztane> because I did do lvm besides windows and remember using gparted to do stuff
[19:59] <anabain> mrsam__, why don't you use the startup disk creator? If you are using an ubuntu right now, you can try this utility.
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> mrsam__  the iso, from a live dvd or usb?
 USB
 i dont have any iso file from ubuntu now
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> mrsam__  boot from the live usb, select 'try ubuntu', then find gparted
 So cant i do this in my ubuntu noW?
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> mrsam__  no, do it in the live session
[20:01] <mrsam__> tnx my friend :)
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> mrsam__  backup first, before you start modifying partitions
[20:01] <anabain> mrsam__, if you want to install ubuntu you need an iso image. Apart from that, if you have a USB stick and you're running ubuntu, you can do as I said.
[20:03] <TJ-> anabain: that GPT/MsDOS switch sounds really opaque - I'd never have associated "upgrade installer" with "change partitioning scheme"
[20:03] <anabain> TJ-, exactly, that was driving me mad
[20:03] <TJ-> anabain: I think that must be unique to the kubuntu installer
[20:04] <anabain> TJ-, yeah
[20:04] <D4RK3D> -help
[20:05] <keli> hi
[20:06] <cristi_> hey
[20:06]  * D4RK3D hello
[20:06]  * D4RK3D says hello
[20:07] <cristi_> silly question ...is this chat related in any way with IRC?
[20:07] <keli> im runnng ubuntu along windows 7 i kinda deleted my windows bootmgr
[20:07] <Ashtasu> Cristi, the chat is built off of IRC, so... yes. :D
[20:07] <bithon> hey. rocking 8gb on my ubuntu, do I need swap ?
[20:07] <compdoc> cristi_, thats what Ive heard
[20:08] <j108> i did "chmod -R 644 ./" in /, now server is down and I cannot ssh back in. what can I do?
[20:08] <cristi_> ok...felt like a thousand years ago IRC
[20:08] <le_pig> :|
[20:08] <compdoc> j108, ouch
[20:09] <cristi_> where is X?
[20:09] <cristi_> :P
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> ((^ 2 lines up. We found X. End all algebra. XD))
[20:10] <bgardner> cristi_: Between w and y?  What do you mean?
[20:10] <cristi_> IRC channels had an "X" bot
[20:10] <cristi_> managing stuff
[20:11] <bgardner> cristi_: Here, his name is ubottu
[20:11] <cristi_> interesting
[20:11] <cristi_> <---feels stupid
[20:11] <j108> compdoc: i just dont understand why cannot even ssh in
[20:12] <bgardner> cristi_: Not at all, that's why support channels exist.
[20:12] <TJ-> j108: access it via the remote console/ipmi/net-kvm, or if it is a virtual machine, it may be possible to boot it using a recovery image and then mount the root file-system and fix it
[20:12] <bgardner> j108: Because your command made really dramatic changes to your system.
[20:12] <compdoc>  j108, some programs wont run with the wrong permissions
[20:13] <cristi_> thank you Brant
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !gender bgardner
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !gender | bgardner
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> (it's a she)
[20:13] <bgardner> SonikkuAmerica: My humblest apologies to ubottu
[20:13] <TJ-> j108: because you've changed the permissions to 644 which is rw-rw-r-- (no exectuables)
[20:13] <compdoc> there are so many permissions in so many directories. I wouldnt know how to fix it. I wonder if some site has listings of that stuff
[20:15] <SchrodingersScat> I need something that moves files and deletes source as it goes along, drive is too full to move directory otherwise.
[20:15] <TJ-> compdoc: I find the easiest fix is to run up a live env and clone the permissions from it to the broken target
[20:15] <TJ-> SchrodingersScat: 'rsync'
[20:15] <compdoc> SchrodingersScat, rsync?
[20:16] <compdoc> TJ-, how would you clone permissions, with a script or something?
[20:16] <j108> TJ-: thanks for explanation
[20:17] <SchrodingersScat> compdoc / TJ- : did a test, and rsync --remove-source-files -rav seems to wait until the end to delete, like end of full run.  When I ctrl-c the rsync process it deletes.
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> SchrodingersScat  there's --delete-before and --delete-after
[20:18] <cristi_> @ SchrodingersScat  : Schrödinger's cat walks into a bar and doesn't. :P
[20:19] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: doesn't that delete destination files?
[20:19] <j108> TJ-: there is a console access but says target system doesn't have /sbin/init. what should I google to find advice to fix this?
[20:20] <cristi_> Heisenberg and Shrodinger is driving down the highway when pulled over by a traffic cop. He walks up to the car and asks Heisenberg, do you know how fast you were going? He answers no, but I can tell you exactly where we were. The cop doesn't like the answer and thinks that it warrants a search of the car. He opens the trunk and immediately yells, do you know that there is a dead cat in here? On which Shrodinger replies, well now we do.
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> is the glass half empty or half full? ... optimist: half full; pessimist: half empty; SchrodingersScat : both, until i see the glass
[20:23] <SchrodingersScat> moving from an unencrypted dir to an encrypted dir, trying to keep it on the same drive.  mv -vn seemed to make a copy and wait til end to try to delete :|  rsync seems the same
[20:23] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: if we consider the air, the glass is never empty ;)
[20:24] <c_tor> Русские?
[20:27] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[20:28] <cristi_> "Knock knock."
[20:28] <cristi_> "Who's there?"
[20:28] <cristi_> "It's the RSPCA, Mr Schrodinger. We would like to ask you a few questions.
[20:28] <bazhang> wrong channel cristi_
[20:29] <cristi_> oki
[20:29] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic cristi_
[20:29] <SchrodingersScat> "it looks like that when specifying directories and the recursive option, files in a are not deleted immediately " , but I'll see how it does, mv really messed up :(
[20:30] <cristi_> the guy's nick it's a joke magnet :(
[20:33] <Cryp71c> I installed an application that - by all accounts that I can find - should have created a service but didn't. Its running directly out of /usr/sbin. How can I fix this?
[20:33] <int-main> I need help. My RT3290 card says wireless disabled by hardware switch on HP laptop
[20:34] <int-main> I tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/253632/how-do-i-get-a-ralink-rt3290-wireless-card-working but the driver doesn't compile
[20:34] <Cryp71c> int-main, do you have a hardware switch somewhere on your laptop?
[20:34] <Cryp71c> or a softkey combination which functions as a hardware switch?
[20:34] <int-main> Cryp71c : Nope. Only F12 which doesn't seem to work
[20:34] <genii> int-main: So have you tried using the key combination on your laptop which normally toggles it on/off ?
[20:34] <int-main> genii : yes. Doesn't help.
[20:35] <TJ-> int-main: HP? "lsmod | grep hp-wmi"
[20:35] <int-main> TJ- : Isn't that hp_wmi? If yes, I tried disabling it.
[20:36] <TJ-> int-main: is it currently loaded though?
[20:36] <int-main> TJ- : yes
[20:36] <TJ-> int-main: does 'lsmod' show a dependency count above 0 for it? if not, unload it
[20:37] <int-main> TJ- : It says hp_wmi 16384 0
[20:37] <int-main> I think yes, dependency count is 0
[20:38] <TJ-> int-main: there are 2 known ways to fix that; in some it requires hp-wmi to be blacklisted to prevent it intercepting the platform hot-key events; in others it requires using acpi_osi= to tell the kernel to pretend to be a version of Windows that is recognised by the PC's ACPI DSDT firmware
[20:38] <TJ-> int-main: "sudo rmmod hp-wmi"
[20:38] <int-main> TJ- : Is rmmod same as modprobe -r?
[20:39] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust / TJ- / compdoc :oook, it took rsync a second to delete some of them, but it IS eventually removing them as it goes along, thanks.
[20:39] <TJ-> int-main: effectively yes, although it succeeds where modprobe -r can sometimes fail
[20:39] <int-main> TJ- : I tried that, still says disabled by hardware switch
[20:40] <int-main> I think the other way is needed
[20:42] <TJ-> int-main: as well as unloading hp-wmi, I seem to recall it requires one of the other drivers to be reloaded; can't recall which right now, though
[20:43] <TJ-> int-main: to try method 2 do "pastebinit <(sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows) "  so we can see what OSI strings are present in the DSDT
[20:43] <int-main> TJ- : any idea where to find it? This is my last shot. I'll return to windows if everything fails.
[20:43] <snguyen> i'm trying to get my rails app to load with upstart but i run into problems with upstart being unable to find any gem dependencies (app does work when i run rails s and bundle exec puma). any ideas on what could be wrong?? http://pastie.org/private/yurjhpl4i1gantqbzwja
[20:44] <TJ-> snguyen: the shell environment is very minimal for service start; you probably need to add additional paths to PATH or additional env-vars
[20:44] <int-main> TJ- : there you go -> http://pastebin.com/J3ThEMhD
[20:47] <snguyen> TJ- that makes... a lot of sense actually. derp... thanks ^__^;;
[20:49] <TJ-> int-main: generally the most recent version of Windows found enables the most functionality on the platform, so having Linux report itself as "Windows 2013" is the best option.
[20:50] <TJ-> int-main: so this will add that to the GRUB config:  "   sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=/ { s/"$/ \\"acpi_osi=Windows 2013\\""/}' /etc/default/grub    "
[20:50] <TJ-> int-main: then do "update-grub" and reboot to test it.
[20:51] <TJ-> int-main: this may also need hp-wmi to be blacklisted; so if you haven't already done that, do it before you reboot
[20:51] <int-main> TJ- : where do i add it? I mean any specific line?
[20:51] <TJ-> int-main: run the command as I gave it to you and it'll do the addition automatically
[20:52] <TJ-> int-main: that 'sed' command updates /etc/default/grub, adding the setting to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX variable
[20:53] <int-main> TJ- : rebooting now. BRB
[20:54] <sangnk> helo
[20:54] <sangnk> hello
[20:55] <ohffs> hi sangnk
[20:55] <ohffs> and peter with wings
[20:56] <dovah> with wings :')
[20:56] <sangnk> ok
[20:56] <int-main> TJ- : Didn't work :(
[20:56] <TJ-> int-main: is hp-wmi blacklisted and definitely not loaded?
[20:57] <int-main> TJ- : Yep. hp_wireless is loaded though
[20:59] <TJ-> int-main: I recall that might also be a problem because it has the alias "acpi*:HPQ6001:*" and the HPQ6001 is a known problem causer. try blacklisting that module too
[21:01] <int-main> TJ- : Alright.
[21:03] <int-main> TJ- : still not working
[21:04] <TJ-> int-main: when you press the hot-key does the LED state change ?
[21:04] <int-main> TJ- No
[21:04] <int-main> But it never used to change. But the thing is it used to work before.
[21:04] <int-main> Now the very same ISO that used to work doesn't work.
[21:04] <int-main> No distro of linux works.
[21:04] <int-main> Arch, Fedora, tried it all
[21:06] <TJ-> int-main: have you dual-booted into Windows and operated the wifi toggle at any point? sometimes that can cause the issue, and also fix it. which reminds me of another issue. it sometimes needs a complete power-off and battery removal or else the system can maintain some firmware state.
[21:07] <int-main> TJ- : I don't dual boot. Its single boot.
[21:07] <int-main> Should I try battery removal now?
[21:08] <TJ-> int-main: before you do lets check that acpi_osi has taken effect. show us "cat /proc/cmdline" please
[21:09] <int-main> TJ- : BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-22-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=2d54e327-b4d6-48ad-82ad-6c97969cf224 ro "acpi_osi=Windows 2013" quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[21:09] <int-main> I think it has.
[21:09] <root___> testing...
[21:09] <k1l> !rootirc > root___
[21:09] <root___> alright
[21:12] <TJ-> int-main: yes, that's good :) ... Yes, do a shutdown, then battery removal, then press the power button to cause it to drain any capacitors holding charge. give it 20 seconds, then replace battery and try again
[21:18] <int-main> TJ- : Didn't work either
[21:18] <TJ-> int-main: that's a pain! can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[21:19] <Guest7367> hey guys I had a problem when upgrading from 14.04 to 15.04
[21:19] <RYDeN> which problem?
[21:20] <Guest7367> at first it wouldn't let me log in, now i can't even get into the login page. Only grub
[21:20] <int-main> TJ- : http://pastebin.com/Jg8d4s8M
[21:21] <RYDeN> mmm
[21:21] <k1l> Guest7367: what did you do?
[21:21] <Guest7367> I just used the upgrade program to update to the new version.
[21:22] <RYDeN> sometimes, when upgrading....
[21:22] <RYDeN> there are some problems
[21:23] <Guest7367> Automatic logout continued to happen, i'd log back in to check progress regularly. Then it wouldn't let me login, just kept reloading login page
[21:23] <RYDeN> i always recommend a clean install
[21:23] <Guest7367> ok is there a way to save my files?
[21:24] <daftykins> nah, boot a live session, chroot your install and upgrade to 15.10 - you won't lose anything but time and it might sort itself out :)
[21:24] <k1l> Guest7367: so you did upgrade to 14.,10 then 15.04?
[21:25] <Guest7367> k1: well I dont know exactly, I turned on notifications for new versions and i just installed the first to come up
[21:25] <Guest7367> daftykins: live session as in from a disk or usb?
[21:26] <daftykins> Guest7367: USB preferable to DVD for sure
[21:29] <Guest7367> daftykins: go straight to 15.10? which version should i live boot?
[21:29] <daftykins> any
[21:30] <k1l> well, 15.04 is end-of.live at the end of january anyway.
[21:30] <daftykins> ^ part of my angle on going further
[21:32] <k1l> Guest7367: please support only in here
[21:32] <Guest7367> ok I just can'y figure out what that last symbol in your name is
[21:32] <k1l> Guest7367: no, the updater should not offer 15.04 when you are on 14.04. except you did launch that updater in some other modes. like developer mode
[21:33] <k1l> its a lower L
[21:33] <Guest7367> k1: i dont think i was in a dev mode
[21:33] <Guest7367> ah
[21:33] <Guest7367> K1l: font is wierd
[21:34] <Guest7367> ok so my plan is to live boot any version of ubuntu, chmod the install, and hope that works?
[21:35] <cycliam> Hello. I'm trying to build a mainline kernel. I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/hk3uF9e0 . The only hit for the term in Google is that very pastebin, posted by someone else 6 days ago.
[21:35] <k1l> "chroot" into that install
[21:35] <EriC^^> whatever you do, don't chmod the install, or chown for that matter
[21:36] <Guest7367> chroot into the install? havent used that command much
[21:36] <daftykins> first you have to mount your partitions, so your / one goes to /mnt for example - then /home if separate would go onto /mnt/home/
[21:37] <daftykins> Guest7367: have a glance at - http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[21:37] <bithon> hello. can anyone help me with ssh lag?
[21:37] <Guest7367> Aanother question before i try, Do ineed to update to 14.10 first ? or 15.10 like daftykins said? I'm moving from 14.4...or 15.04 i guess i dont really know
[21:38] <daftykins> Guest7367: once you chroot we can check what your install thinks it is
[21:38] <k1l> Guest7367: chroot into that install and lets seee what that system really is
[21:38] <Guest7367> daftykins: sounds promising i will check it out. Thank you
[21:38] <notalentgeek> Hello guys, I have a problem with JDK8. How can I downgrade into JDK6 in Ubuntu?
[21:38] <notalentgeek> :'(.
[21:38] <Guest7367> i'm trying to find the disk i used for my original install... will that work? or do i need to download a new one?
[21:39] <daftykins> what's wrong with JDK 8?
[21:39] <notalentgeek> daftykins, Annotation processing got disabled in JDK8.
[21:39] <notalentgeek> I cannot compile my code anymore.
[21:39] <int-main> TJ- : still there? I am waiting for your response.
[21:39] <TJ-> int-main: I see several firmware related problems there (bugs in the firmware) but not got to the end of the log yet :)
[21:40] <daftykins> notalentgeek: i take it we're talking oracle, how about 7?
[21:40] <notalentgeek> daftykins, The compiler says that I need JVM1.6 I believe it was in JDK6.
[21:40] <int-main> TJ- : Just one thing, is there a chance to solve it? Or should I start with Windows installation?
[21:40] <notalentgeek> I need JVM1.6. Was it in JDK7 or 6?
[21:40] <daftykins> notalentgeek: would it be worth enquiring on their site docs first to confirm when it was killed?
[21:40] <daftykins> or ask in a java channel
[21:41] <notalentgeek> daftykins, https://github.com/processing/processing/issues/2260
[21:41] <notalentgeek> Hmm, can you tell me how to downgrade my Java version?
[21:42] <daftykins> notalentgeek: get the answer at the source before messing around with reinstallation.
[21:42] <OerHeks> TJ-, int-main maybe it is windows 2012 for this machine?
[21:42] <notalentgeek> What is wrong with re installation? I am new to Linux.
[21:44] <TJ-> int-main: well, that laptop was definitely intended to be targeted at Windows; We have solved this issue for several HP users in the last few months but it can take a lot of trying to get there, and there's no guarantee where the solution is.
[21:44] <daftykins> reading the above link now
[21:44] <TJ-> int-main: as an aside I noticed the BIOS has disabled the virtualisation extensions "kvm: disabled by bios"
[21:44] <f4d3> Hello, it's me
[21:45] <TJ-> OerHeks: I doubt it; there's no sign of ACPI functions defined by the DSDT that the Linux ACPI core doesn't understand.
[21:45] <int-main> TJ- : Yeah. I don't see any specific option to enable that. Just tell me what do I do?
[21:45] <int-main> Has been months since I have been trying. It used to work on Linux, one day out of blue it stops working and then it never worked on any distro
[21:45] <TJ-> int-main: OerHeks but, it's worth trying. edit /etc/default/grub and where you see "Windows 2013" try instead "Windows 2012" - after altering and saving the file do "sudo update-grub" of course, and a reboot
[21:46] <daftykins> notalentgeek: you're definitely using the oracle one right?
[21:46] <int-main> TJ- : Okay. On it
[21:46] <Vapez> Hello i have a question, it's safe to autoremove these? http://pastebin.com/t3kh9H4d
[21:46] <TJ-> int-main: there *may* be an option in the PC's firmware Setup menus to influence the Wifi, but not sure what to look for in this case. Also, the enabling VT-d and such will be there too
[21:47] <notalentgeek> YES! Before it was OpenJDK and it was fine.
[21:47] <notalentgeek> daftykins, YES! Before it was OpenJDK and it was fine.
[21:47] <threeminutemonta> notalentgeek: Disclaimer. I do not use java. It seems you might be better off using multiple copies of Java instead of downgrading. see http://www.confluxtechnologies.com/blog/on-ubuntu-install-multiple-version-of-java
[21:47] <daftykins> notalentgeek: confirm "javac -version" ?
[21:47] <notalentgeek> javac 1.8.0_66
[21:48] <daftykins> ok good stuff
[21:48] <helpwithxbind> Could anyone point me to a channel to get assistance with xbindkeys?
[21:48] <int-main> TJ- : there is nothing for Wifi. I have searched everything.
[21:48] <notalentgeek> threeminutemonta, I will look into it.
[21:48] <daftykins> notalentgeek: so where did you get it? a lot of people install the webupd8 repo to get oracle java.
[21:49] <Guest7367> daftykins: just booted up live mode, i need to do this through the terminal right?
[21:49] <TJ-> int-main: could be something totally unrelated to 'wifi' and be something like 'platform services' or 'hotkey' or something else wierd; but as I recall the other users with that issue didn't report seeing such. We know why it happens - the code in the ACPI DSDT is broken and specific to Windows and the HP drivers they provide for that
[21:50] <notalentgeek> daftykins, I forgot :( I think it was from ppa because I do not remember that I have knowledge to install Java from .tar.gz.
[21:50] <daftykins> Guest7367: yep
[21:50] <daftykins> notalentgeek: "dpkg -l | grep java" -> look for 8 -> "apt-cache policy <that_package_name>" -> look at the URL
[21:50] <notalentgeek> threeminutemonta, I only have one Java from sudo update-alternatives --config java.
[21:51] <notalentgeek> daftykins, I will try!
[21:51] <TJ-> !info openjdk-8-jre | notalentgeek daftykins "javac -version"  gives "javac 1.8.0_66-internal"
[21:51] <daftykins> TJ-: ooh that's good to know :>
[21:51] <int-main> TJ- : Nope. Not that either
[21:52] <daftykins> notalentgeek: sounds like you never switched from open to oracle, you need to play with the "update-alternatives" command i think
[21:52] <TJ-> int-main: *sigh* ... HP, and Acer, have become really bad recently at causing problems for Linux due to Windows-specific extensions in their firmware, this is 1 of the more annoying issues it causes
[21:52] <Vapez> Hello i have a question, it's safe to autoremove these? http://pastebin.com/t3kh9H4d
[21:52] <Vapez> Hello i have a question, it's safe to autoremove these? http://pastebin.com/t3kh9H4d
[21:52] <notalentgeek> daftykins, 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/ wily/main amd64 Packages.
[21:52] <Guest7367> daftykins: sorry , this site you linked me to just had me confused
[21:52] <daftykins> yep webupd8 :)
[21:53] <daftykins> Guest7367: np, yeah it's not the best written guide :S
[21:53] <notalentgeek> daftykins, If I never was then what was the default Java installed in UbuntuMate?
[21:53] <k1l> Vapez: if they are marked as not used anymore: yes
[21:53] <daftykins> notalentgeek: OpenJDK/JRE
[21:54] <daftykins> notalentgeek: try "which javac" and note the path
[21:54] <crised> Which GVIM version should I download for ubuntu 15?
[21:54] <daftykins> 15.04 and 15.10 exist
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> !find gvim
[21:55] <crised> 15.10
[21:55] <notalentgeek> daftykins,  /usr/bin/javac
[21:55] <crised> Which one of those 3 packages should I install?
[21:55] <crised> vim-gnome?
[21:55] <TJ-> int-main: hey! does "lsmod | grep acer" show acer-wmi loaded?
[21:55] <daftykins> notalentgeek: ok so that's not helpful - run and share this via http://paste.ubuntu.com - "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[21:55] <k1l> crised: dont load stuff from other websites. use the official ubuntu packages. yes: vim-gnome
[21:55] <Guest7367> daftykins: i'm just lost as to what its asking me to look for. I'm trying to find my partition
[21:55] <crised> k1l: thanks
[21:55] <int-main> TJ- : No. There is no acer hardware here.
[21:56] <Guest7367> Daftykins:
[21:56] <daftykins> Guest7367: run "sudo parted -l" and you should be able to identify which partitions are which on your install - if you're unsure, throw that commands output into a http://paste.ubuntu.com and link me here
[21:56] <Guest7367> daftykins: ok awesome
[21:56] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  are lsblk
[21:56] <notalentgeek> daftykins, It says I only have one option... Nothing to configure.
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> daftykins  or lsblk*
[21:57] <TJ-> int-main: OK, because some HPs are known to use it, and that HPQ6001 device was added to acer-wmi's norfkill_ids structure specifically to ensure rkfill works
[21:57] <daftykins> notalentgeek: and which is that?
[21:57] <OerHeks> TJ-, you asked this before, > <TJ-> int-main: is hp-wmi blacklisted
[21:57] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: true, that :>
[21:57] <notalentgeek> daftykins, There is only one alternative in link group java (providing /usr/bin/java): /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-oracle/jre/bin/java Nothing to configure.
[21:57] <OerHeks> oh
[21:57] <int-main> TJ- : I don't think there is anything possibly left.
[21:57] <Guest7367> daftykins: output says invalid option -- '1'
[21:58] <daftykins> Guest7367: it's a lowercase L
[21:58] <TJ-> int-main: there's one thing. remove the blacklist for hp-wmi and ensure it loads at boot-time, with the acpi_osi=... still in place
[21:58] <Guest7367> daftykins: my bad
[21:58] <Guest7367> daftykins: the font in this chat through me off
[21:59] <TJ-> int-main: ensure you haven't blacklisted hp-wireless too!
[21:59] <TJ-> int-main: the effect we're trying to achieve by doing that is to have the Linux drivers that key off those devices active, AND do this when the ACPI DSDT is providing the services they expect to find (due to the acpi_osi=Windows 2012/3 option)
[22:00] <daftykins> notalentgeek: ok looks like webupd8 don't have 6 and actually just script the install anyway; see https://askubuntu.com/questions/67909/how-do-i-install-oracle-jdk-6 for install, then run the update-alternatives command as earlier to switch from 8 to 6
[22:00] <TJ-> int-main: doing "modinfo -F alias hp-wireless" shows you that module is 'wired' to managed that device, if found.
[22:01] <notalentgeek> daftykins, So that method will make me have two version of Java right?
[22:02] <daftykins> notalentgeek: oh i should've said to run "sudo update-alternatives --config javac" since we need to check the compiler, not sure if i did or said java on the end. yep two versions, but as long as you switch between them with update-alternatives all will be gravy.
[22:02] <Vapez> I have a big problem, when i go for apt-get upgrade it ask me to autoremove, it's safe to remove these: http://pastebin.com/s9bHgrC2 ?
[22:02] <notalentgeek> daftykins, Will do as you told mate! I will report back soon enough.
[22:03] <daftykins> Vapez: it's a suggestion, so not a problem to ignore really - do you need PHP?
[22:03] <Vapez> I recently upgrade php7 from php 5
[22:03] <Vapez> It's freaks me out, i want to don't show me that
[22:03] <daftykins> looks like it's trying to remove some 7, so you might want to check those package names
[22:03] <Vapez> What if autoremove?
[22:04] <Vapez> it's will break the kernel?
[22:04] <Vapez> it will*
[22:04] <daftykins> well you can do it, reboot - and see if everything works :) you'll only be a package install away from getting it back on.
[22:04] <notalentgeek> daftykins, Since when Oracle required me to Sign In to download Java lol...
[22:04] <Vapez> it's safe?
[22:04] <daftykins> Vapez: it's likely suggesting to remove old versions, check you have multiple with "dpkg -l | grep linux-"
[22:04] <Guest7367> daftykins: ok I have a list of three, do you want me to link you to them? i dont know what they mean
[22:05] <Guest7367> daftykins:http://paste.ubuntu.com/14404788/
[22:05] <daftykins> clicking now
[22:05] <Guest7367> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14404788/
[22:05] <k1l> Vapez: autoremove removes packages that got marked as "not used anymore" so if there is a new kernel x.xx-30 the old x.xx-29 kernel get marked as "not used anymore"
[22:06] <Vapez> daftykins: k1l : http://pastebin.com/ufU1WN7Q
[22:07] <k1l> Vapez: run "sudo apt full-upgrade" first
[22:07] <k1l> Vapez: and look what happens. read the messages
[22:07] <int-main> TJ- : As usual, nope. Its getting late for me. I should probably just go and forget Linux
[22:08] <Vapez> k1l: done, no errors
[22:08] <Guest7367> daftykins: did you get my link
[22:08] <daftykins> Guest7367: wow finally loaded, ok so you can run "sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /mnt" to start with
[22:09] <k1l> Vapez: and what got installed?
[22:09] <TJ-> int-main: tell HP to get their act together :)
[22:09] <Vapez> k1l: here: http://pastebin.com/9feNjE1T
[22:09] <int-main> TJ- : wouldn't help me.
[22:09] <Guest7367> daftykins: ok I ran it. No output
[22:09] <int-main> I am stuck with this one for years
[22:10] <daftykins> Guest7367: now "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot"
[22:10] <k1l> Vapez: see, got a new kernel
[22:10] <k1l> Vapez: now you need autoremove to get rid of the old ones
[22:10] <int-main> TJ- : thanks for your time anyway. I am sorry it didn't work out.
[22:10] <OerHeks> int-main, odd thing is, you told us it has worked :-(
[22:10] <Guest7367> daftykins: sorry but is there a space between sda1 and /mnt
[22:10] <Vapez> GOD HELP ME TO DON'T KERNEL PANIC!
[22:10] <daftykins> Guest7367: yep
[22:10] <daftykins> Guest7367: now follow step 5 from my earlier link, which has you mount dev proc and sys, but put them at /mnt/dev ; /mnt/proc etc.
[22:11] <Guest7367> daftykins ok but there was a space in the first command you told me to run too huh? i didn't put it in there do i need to re run it?
[22:12] <TJ-> int-main: last-ditch but... have you tried resetting to the firmware's factory default settings (taking care not to erase the Ubuntu entry in the EFI boot menu)
[22:12] <int-main> OerHeks : it used to work out of box. I was on Arch, then one day it kept auto toggling between disabled and enabled. I thought it was arch problem so I installed ubuntu and set it up fine with working wifi, little later it stopped working. Had to move to W10 to make it work later.
[22:12] <int-main> TJ- : thats the first thing I did, restore factory settings in BIOS
[22:12] <Vapez> k1l: it worked flawless, i reboot it, no suggestion shows, thank you very much !!!
[22:13] <Vapez> thank you k1l and daftykins, have a nice day !
[22:13] <Guest7367> daftykins: ok but there was a space in the first command too huh? I didn't put it in there do i need to re run that one first?
[22:13] <link0802>  Hello. I have big notification on gnome-shell. How I can expand they in notification center? img example https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cq31z9wll8fqmnz/AAAkGF1m_z8KPEnAO879aU0wa?dl=0
[22:14] <TJ-> int-main: oooooooooo! hang on a mo! I missed something
[22:14] <notalentgeek> daftykins, Hello, I have installed .bin file. However as the link you gave me, I need to put the JDK6 into usr/lib/jvm. The thing is that I do not know where is JDK6 located.
[22:14] <TJ-> int-main: In your dmesg output there is no PCI wifi device reported at all
[22:14] <int-main> TJ- : okay. Im here.
[22:15] <int-main> TJ- : what does that mean? faulty hardware?
[22:15] <TJ-> int-main: ahhh, scratch that, I didn't look hard enough, it is there! "rt2800pci 0000:07:00.0 wlo1: renamed from wlan0"
[22:15] <daftykins> Guest7367: check the output of "mount" - it should show sda2 at /mnt .
[22:15] <notalentgeek> daftykins, Never mind I am dumb. I get the JDK6 folder but I cannot copy it into usr/lib/jvm should I change the permission in usr/lib/jvm folder? How to do so?
[22:15] <int-main> for a moment there, i was really happy
[22:16] <TJ-> int-main: same here... then I noticed the browser window was incorrectly showing no scrollbar on the dmesg page and it was off the bottom!
[22:16] <daftykins> notalentgeek: it doesn't matter where it is, just test the javac binary to start with by running it where it is now against your code.
[22:16] <TJ-> int-main: what if "rfkill list" reporting right now?
[22:16] <TJ-> s/if/is/
[22:17] <notalentgeek> daftykins, The javac -version is still 1.8.
[22:17] <int-main> TJ- : phy0 : Wireless LAN Soft blocked: No Hard Blocked : yes
[22:18] <notalentgeek> daftykins, My program still not working.
[22:18] <TJ-> int-main: does it change if you press the wifi hot-key *once* ?
[22:18] <daftykins> notalentgeek: you have to give it the FULL path to run javac from where it is in the java 6 path right now, OBVIOUSLY tying "javac..."is going to use the v8.
[22:18] <daftykins> *trying
[22:18] <TJ-> int-main: there was one issue we had where it was altering the soft-block not the hard-block, and I built a fixed driver for that user
[22:18] <int-main> TJ- : soft blocked does
[22:19] <TJ-> int-main: oooo... you might have the same issue then
[22:19] <int-main> TJ- : was that driver for RT3290 too?
[22:20] <TJ-> int-main: it was the hp-wireless/ HPQ6001 device I seem to recall. I'd have to trawl my records for what I did precisely
[22:21] <Guest7367> daftykins: do i need to be in a certain directory to run those?
[22:21] <daftykins> Guest7367: nope
[22:22] <TJ-> int-main: it was way back in August; just found the IRC log of it. I'll dig deeper
[22:22] <Guest7367> daftykins: mount: cant find "path" in etc/fstab or etc/mtab
[22:23] <daftykins> Guest7367: nevermind, just run "sudo umount /dev/sda2" then go back to the beginning putting the appropriate spaces in ;)
[22:23] <Guest7367> ran command as "sudo mount --bind mnt/dev/media/xx.xx/dev
[22:24] <daftykins> no that's totally miles away
[22:24] <daftykins> "sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev" would've been right, assuming the previous are resolved
[22:24] <Pinkamena_D> Not sure the right channel to ask this, but maybe someone can help. I have been using cisco anyconnect to access a VPN which has been working great on ubuntu for about a year. Now the company had changed their certificate and it does not work. The tech set up a new certificate on windows 7 using the internet explorer thing to import the cert, but they would not help setting it up on ubuntu. How can I transfer the cert they
[22:24] <Pinkamena_D> installed to ubuntu?
[22:25] <int-main> TJ- : alright. hanging around for a while. thanks.
[22:25] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: what extension does it have?
[22:26] <Pinkamena_D> The old certs working in ubuntu had .pem If I go to windows internet explorer and choose "export" on the new cert, I get a .pfx
[22:26] <TJ-> int-main: I'm reading the convo from 18th August. There's some workaround attempts but then I referred to this known kernel bug with a possible fix, but I don't know (yet) if it got into mainline. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69131
[22:27] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: read https://superuser.com/questions/770717/how-to-properly-install-certificate-issued-to-me and maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1973486
[22:27] <Pinkamena_D> I have tried to convert the pfx to pem using openSSL but it asks for a password. I only have one password which is asked for when logging on in windows, and it does not work when converting with openssl
[22:27] <Pinkamena_D> ok, thank you for the links, I will read them and let you know how it goes.
[22:27] <hanshenrik> what is the correct way to alias a binary in /usr/local/bin? and how can I make 1? softlink? hardlink? something else? for example, when I apt-get install vim; Aptitude will alias /usr/local/bin/vi as /usr/local/bin/vim (if I recall correctly)
[22:28] <TJ-> int-main: update: I've found that I do have a patched hp-wmi kernel patch I created; checking further on that
[22:28] <Guest7367> daftykins: this is really lame but I have to leave for work, what times are you on here?
[22:29] <daftykins> Guest7367: just explain the broken upgrade situation and that you want to chroot your install, any active volunteer can help.
[22:29] <Guest7367> daftykins: ok thanks so much for your help
[22:29] <daftykins> np
[22:29] <TJ-> int-main: ha! and the patch has been on my web-site since! https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz
[22:31] <notalentgeek> daftykins, I tried to add alternatives to Java by running this command "sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/lib/jvm java /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_45/bin 2".
[22:32] <notalentgeek> daftykins, This is the error "update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_45/bin because link group java is broken update-alternatives: warning: not replacing /usr/lib/jvm with a link".
[22:33] <daftykins> never used it personally so no idea what those errors are
[22:33] <daftykins> notalentgeek: you don't need to permanently install it yet though, did you try just compiling with the v6 javac directly to see if it worked?
[22:35] <notalentgeek> daftykins, I have no clue on how to let Processing to set active Java directory.
[22:36] <Odesit> и что тут как?
[22:36] <TJ-> notalentgeek: usually; per-program its done by setting JAVA_HOME to the path to the JRE in a shell script that starts the java VM
[22:37] <k1l> !ru | Odesit
[22:37] <daftykins> notalentgeek: ok i think you're overthinking this. find the JDK 6 path, go into it, find the /bin, find the javac, then run *that* javac with its' full path, i.e. /path/to/JDK6/bin/javac <my code>
[22:38] <TJ-> notalentgeek: it is usually set to one of the JREs under "/usr/lib/jvm/"
[22:39] <TJ-> daftykins: notalentgeek: does it definitely want the Java Compiler (javac), rather than the Java VM (java) ?
[22:39] <notalentgeek> daftykins, Wait looks like in my Processing IDE it comes with its own Java folder.
[22:39] <daftykins> TJ-: notalentgeek is compiling code apparently.
[22:39] <daftykins> >8\/
[22:39] <TJ-> daftykins: ahhh, OK :)
[22:40] <notalentgeek> My code is not in .java but in .pde. The compilation is first done within Processing IDE then goes to normal Java compiling method.
[22:40] <TJ-> notalentgeek: most IDEs let you configure the location of multiple JDKs
[22:40] <Demon_Jester> hey guys, I am doing HDD recovery, and i have the internal HDD hooked up via usb (with device idk how to describe) anyways, this HDD didn't have OS on it, ans was used to store files on a windows machine, in /dev it just shows sdb (not sdb1, sdb2 etc..) am I still able to mount it, and attempt to recover the files?
[22:40] <daftykins> and so the truth comes out, later than wouldn't helped ;)
[22:41] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: "sudo parted -l" or "sudo bsblk" would be a good starting spot
[22:41] <daftykins> oops lsblk on that second one
[22:42] <TJ-> Demon_Jester: sounds like it could have been a Dyanmic Disk or part of a RAID array ?
[22:42] <Demon_Jester> daftykins, on lsblk, it shows sdb 8:16 0 257G
[22:43] <notalentgeek> I have found this https://forum.processing.org/two/discussion/11580/annotation-disabled-requires-1-6-jvm-with-linux-32-and-processing-3-0a5 . But the dude also did not find the solution.
[22:43] <Demon_Jester> TJ-, It wasn't used for RAID, it was just second hdd to put files on, no OS on it. idk if that helps.
[22:44] <TJ-> Demon_Jester: did the disk fail?
[22:44] <Demon_Jester> TJ-, its an old HDD, im just hoping I can recover the files, and put the files on a newer HDD
[22:44] <int-main> TJ- : how to apply that patch?
[22:44] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: show the output of the mentioned commands in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[22:45] <lost1nfound> hey guys, not sure if this is the right place to ask, but ive had a pretty serious production problem since upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 on my EC2 m4.xlarge/c4.xlarge high-traffic web instances. the instances just become unreachable and fail status checks. seen ifquery segfaults in the logs as well. nothing logs once they go into this state, so this is a bit tricky to debug. ive been working with aws
[22:45] <lost1nfound> support for 3 weeks with no luck. has anyone else had similar issues?
[22:45] <sim590> anyone familiar with lxc ?
[22:45] <k1l> Demon_Jester: so the hdd was working fine. then you put it into the other pc. than suddenly all is gone?
[22:45] <sim590> so I have this log http://ix.io/nab (if it can help...) when using lxc-console. lxc-console just behaves weird clearing the screen over and over and bringing me back to login even after successful login...
[22:46] <lost1nfound> all my other instances are fine (20+) but these 10 machines crash 2-3x a day. i have an askubuntu post about it but it hasn't gotten any response, and im not sure where to go from here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/710747/after-upgrading-to-15-10-from-15-04-ec2-webservers-have-become-very-unstable
[22:46] <Demon_Jester> k1l, no exactly the main pc it was in, just turns on but bios doesn't even show up, so im just trying to recover the files, that is what the client mainly wants.
[22:46] <TJ-> int-main: aha, you're awake!  "wget https://iam.tj/projects/misc/hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz" then "sudo tar -C / -xzf hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz" then "sudo dkms install -m HP-wmi -v 1.01"
[22:47] <daftykins> lost1nfound: using non-LTS in production? that was your first mistake
[22:47] <TJ-> int-main:  see this for what to expect, and the *check* at the end to confirm the module was installed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12121139/
[22:47] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: still waiting (:
[22:47] <jesuslovesyouthi> I'm trying to upgrade firefox to ff 43.0.3 and got it to where she'll start to launch (the new version) - but then I'm asked for prifile information. I don't want to loase any of the stuff from my old version (cookies, history, bookmarks, and even prifile). What can I do at this point?
[22:47] <Demon_Jester> k1l, and for some reason I have this 3 way adapter to usb, it doesn't work on my pc anymore (was working yesterday when I was using another HDD) so I am using linux OS
[22:48] <Demon_Jester> daftykins, sorry, uhh parted is not on my pc, so lsblk is all I have is that ok?
[22:48] <lost1nfound> daftykins: yeah, but i needed systemd, and needed a recent boost library. im not blaming ubuntu or anything as i realize its not an lts release, but ive got to fix it somehow, and hopefully fixing this can help 16.04 avoid the issue :)
[22:48] <lost1nfound> 15.04 was extremely stable however
[22:48] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: no. what are you ACTUALLY running?
[22:49] <daftykins> 'cause it doesn't sound like ubuntu.
[22:49] <Demon_Jester> daftykins, .... LOL I am on arch.. oh god.. im sorry I thought I booted into ubuntu.
[22:49] <k1l> Demon_Jester: so please ask the support from the OS you are running how to get that working
[22:49] <Demon_Jester> daftykins, I will head over to arch channel.
[22:49] <daftykins> Demon_Jester: very funny.
[22:52] <lost1nfound> I also don't feel like i have the proper level of detail required to file a bug report, as I don't have evidence of what exactly is crashing... cant tell if its a kernel panic or if the network driver is just hanging/crashing, etc. i know the aws support guys have been working with canonical on it a bit, but im not sure where that discussion is taking place. should we purchase commercial support perhap
[22:52] <lost1nfound> s, or would they only support 14.04LTS?
[22:53] <daftykins> lost1nfound: LTS is best
[22:53] <daftykins> talk to amazon about whether it's better running LTS on their gear, if that's ec2
[22:54] <lost1nfound> daftykins: yes ec2, but, im stuck with 15.04 at minimum unless i want to get systemd working on 14.04 but that sounds a bit messy. ill switch to and stay on LTS when 16.04 is released. do you know if canonical's commercial support will cover 15.x?
[22:55] <daftykins> not a clue, but having it work on a given technology is what you look at support for, not someone to pick up the pieces afterwards :>
[22:55] <int-main> TJ- : what is that that tar command supposed to do? It doesn't do anything when entered what you told to
[22:56] <TJ-> int-main: 'tar' extracts the downloaded file to /usr/src/hp-wmi-1.01/
[22:56] <int-main> TJ- : Okay, that I did.
[22:56] <int-main> dkms says command not found
[22:56] <Seppoz> how cna i get ri of this error http://pastebin.com/UnEg9UTH
[22:57] <Seppoz> how can i cancle installation of a package
[22:57] <TJ-> int-main: check the dir/files have been extracted: "ls -l /usr/src/"
[22:57] <lost1nfound> daftykins: yeah, makes sense. nonetheless, we definitely have  a bug on our hands, and if this isnt already somehow fixed in 16.04, it will surely be affected also. i just don't really know what to do from here besides spin up new 15.04 machines and not do anything to report a bug/etc...
[22:57] <TJ-> int-main: if so, do "sudo dkms install -m hp-wmi -v 1.01"
[22:57] <int-main> TJ- : where do I run sudo dkms install -m HP-wmi -v 1.01 ? At what path?
[22:57] <TJ-> int-main: any
[22:58] <lost1nfound> would contacting the mailing lists be a good idea perhaps? and if so which i wonder?
[22:58] <TJ-> int-main: DKMS expects all source to be at /usr/src/<module-name>-<version>/
[22:58] <TJ-> lost1nfound: i'd suggest bringing it to the #ubuntu-server channel
[22:59] <lost1nfound> TJ-: ah, okay, wasn't aware of its existance, thanks! :)
[22:59] <int-main> TJ- : mine is in downloads/usr/src
[22:59] <jesuslovesyouthi> Does anyone know ...  is there a proper way to upgrade firefox? Preferable from a repo / the command line.
[23:00] <jesuslovesyouthi> Ubuntu 14.04 default version is ff 42 but the newest is ff 43.*
[23:00] <k1l> jesuslovesyouthi: ubuntu ships updates. you only need to run the system updates. on terminal use "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[23:00] <TJ-> int-main: that means the tar command wasn't run correctly. From the Downloads directory where the tar.z is: "sudo tar -C / -xzf hp-wmi.dkms.tar.gz"
[23:01] <TJ-> int-main: that "-C /" makes tar change to the / directory to run the command
[23:01] <jesuslovesyouthi> k1l: So there's no way outside of ubuntu repos or a lot of work to get the lastest version?
[23:02] <k1l> jesuslovesyouthi: you are free to use other .deb packages or compile it yourself. but then you are on duty for keeping up to date and fix bugs and security issues.
[23:02] <k1l> jesuslovesyouthi: btw: there is ff43 in 14.04 in the repo
[23:02] <k1l> !info firefox trusty
[23:03] <k1l> see ^
[23:03] <jesuslovesyouthi> k1l: I guess I just assumed what I had was the latest in the repo. My bad. Thx
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l: Is [ apt $COMMAND ] now preferred over apt-get?
[23:03] <k1l> jesuslovesyouthi: run the updates
[23:04] <jesuslovesyouthi> k1l: So doesn't the "full-upgrade" flag upgrade the os too?
[23:04] <k1l> SonikkuAmerica: its the new apt-get and the upgrade naming is less confusing to distribution upgrades
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l: Nice. I'll remember that.
[23:05] <k1l> jesuslovesyouthi: no
[23:05] <k1l> jesuslovesyouthi: ubuntu doesnt use apt to upgrade to the next release.
[23:05] <int-main> TJ- : the hp was hp not HP. Found it.
[23:06] <TJ-> int-main: OK :)
[23:06] <int-main> TJ- : module installed.
[23:06] <int-main> Now what?
[23:07] <TJ-> int-main: right, so we now ensure the current module is unloaded with "sudo modprobe -r hp-wmi" then load the new one with "sudo modprobe hp-wmi" ... press the WiFi hot-key and check what "rfkill list" reports. Do that several times: press key, check rfkill, repeat... and see if the hard kill switch reports a change rather than the soft
[23:10] <int-main> TJ- : no, it only toggles soft block
[23:11] <int-main> TJ- : wait, your module is named hp-wmi and the default one is hp_wmi and sudo modprobe hp-wmi doesn't load hp-wmi
[23:12] <TJ-> int-main: lets check the correct module was used: does "modinfo -F filename hp-wmi" end in "updates/dkms/hp-wmi.ko" ?
[23:12] <TJ-> int-main: modules can interchangeably use the - and _
[23:12] <jesuslovesyouthi> k1l: Right on. Looks like ff got pulled in with the full-upgrade flag
[23:13] <int-main> TJ- : yes, it does end with that
[23:13] <Jahm> I have downloaded Ubuntu 14.04 mini.iso. When I try to burn it to my pen drive on GPT partition scheme for UEFI using Rufus, I get an error
[23:13] <TJ-> int-main: "find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -type f -name hp-wmi.ko" will show you the modules. The module in the updates/..." path will take precedence
[23:13] <someone42> Hello all. I'm using Windows 10. Looking to install Ubuntu to my USB HDD (not thumbdrive) from Windows. How do I do that?
[23:14] <k1l> someone42: make a install-usb-thumbdrive/dvd and then choose the usb hdd as install target when you boot that usb/dvd
[23:14] <TJ-> int-main: that patch when used by the user in August made the hard kill switch work, but their HP model was a slightly different number to yours, so it is possible there's something different in your model's firmware.
[23:14] <Jahm> I get this error: http://i.imgur.com/rFwqf1C.png
[23:15] <someone42> k1l: yeah, I'm trying to do that but for some reason my methods aren't working. Is there a step by step resource list?
[23:15] <Jahm> How do I dual boot Ubuntu 14.04 with Windows 10
[23:15] <int-main> TJ- : first one is find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -type f -name hp-wmi.ko
[23:15] <int-main> Oops.
[23:16] <int-main> First path is /lib/modules/4.2.0-22-generic/kernel/drivers/platform/x86/hp-wmi.ko
[23:16] <k1l> someone42: what is not working?
[23:16] <int-main> I think this is whats wrong
[23:16] <int-main> Second is /lib/modules/4.2.0-22-generic/updates/dkms/hp-wmi.ko which should be first
[23:17] <TJ-> int-main: no, those are just the files being listed. The modprobe routines will load from updates/dkms/ first
[23:17] <spyros> sh: 1: inxi: not found
[23:17] <spyros> sh: 1: inxi: not found
[23:17] <someone42> k1l: Not step by step resource list, I mean step by step guide. All of the stuff I've downloaded only sees thumbdrives formatted with FAT32 and I'm neither.
[23:17] <int-main> TJ- : Okay. I've wasted your hours and no result.
[23:17] <TJ-> int-main: so, unfortunately, it doesn't look as if that fix -as it stands - is sufficient for your system's issue
[23:17] <int-main> so sorry
[23:17] <TJ-> int-main: not your fault - this is down to HP
[23:17] <int-main> But I don't understand
[23:18] <int-main> If this worked before, whats changed?
[23:18] <int-main> Even the same ISO doesn't work.
[23:18] <TJ-> int-main: because some state that is saved in non-volatile RAM has changed, and we have no way of changing it (because we don't know what has changed). This is the problem with these opaque proprietary bits
[23:19] <TJ-> int-main: there used to be silly tricks like... pressing the hot-key rapidly at POST time, before the OS started, would toggle its state... it depends on model, on firmware version, hardware chipset... who knows!?
[23:19] <int-main> I have tried that thing.
[23:20] <int-main> Lets just peacefully move to windows 10
[23:20] <TJ-> int-main: I noticed in the August issue we found an option in the firmware Setup menus something like "Network boot enable" and that seemed to have some kind of effect on enabling the wifi!
[23:20] <int-main> TJ- : I fiddled with that too. Didn't help
[23:20] <TJ-> int-main: where you'd expect it only to affect the wired interface, for PXE boot services, it affected the Wifi too, when disabled
[23:20] <int-main> I have tried literally everything I can.
[23:21] <int-main> Asked on reddit, stackoverflow and other places too, no help
[23:21] <TJ-> int-main: with these new changes in place (acpi_osi= and the patche hp-wmi) it's worth ensuring that option for entwork boot is enabled again, and doing a complete reboot
[23:21] <int-main> on it
[23:22] <TJ-> HP make customers work hard for their deals!
[23:24] <Jahm> Anyone?
[23:25] <k1l> Jahm: install both OS (best is windows first), then choose on boot menu what to boot
[23:25] <Jahm> Should Windows be on UEFI or Legacy mode?
[23:26] <bekks> Jahm: It should be on the same as Ubuntu.
[23:26] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:26] <bithon> bekks: why would that matter?
[23:26] <daftykins> bithon: for multi-boot
[23:26] <bekks> bithon: Because one of them will not work ;)
[23:27] <bithon> hmm
[23:27] <someone42> I just wanted to clarify if someone is able to support me re my USB HD installation issue.
[23:27] <k1l> or you need to switch the setting in bios all the time.
[23:27] <bithon> never tried it but that seems odd
[23:27] <daftykins> someone42: ask away with detail on one line
[23:27] <bithon> can't you have grub
[23:27] <Jahm> bithon: Yep. I installed Ubuntu 14.04 on UEFI
[23:27] <bithon> load uefi and
[23:27] <loveheartjoylove> sounds like uefi presents some security problems. that so?
[23:27] <bekks> bithon: No.
[23:27] <daftykins> bithon: don't spam the channel like that please
[23:27] <bithon> oh didn't know that
[23:27] <Jahm> When I try to install Windows, it has an error about GPT format
[23:27] <Jahm> When I tried* to install Windows, it has an error about GPT format
[23:28] <daftykins> Jahm: is the disk currently blank?
[23:28] <OerHeks> loveheartjoylove, that is a rumour
[23:28] <k1l> someone42: make a ubuntu-usb-pendrive/dvd. that is the first task.
[23:28] <OerHeks> :-D
[23:28] <Jahm> daftykins: No. I installed Ubuntu first
[23:28] <daftykins> Jahm: that was a mistake
[23:29] <Jahm> My last dual boot was decades ago. I always install Ubuntu first and works fine
[23:29] <daftykins> not worth fighting, life is always easier with Windows on first
[23:29] <someone42> k1l: I've tried, but the installation tools I've downloaded only support FAT32 formatted USB thumbdrives. I don't have that.
[23:29] <Jahm> Yeah
[23:29] <Jahm> daftykins: so Windows 10 on UEFI?
[23:29] <daftykins> yep
[23:29] <k1l> someone42: it will wipe that usb pendrive anyway
[23:29] <Jahm> UEFI and GPT the same right?
[23:30] <k1l> someone42: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[23:30] <someone42> k1l: I don't have a pendrive, only a USB HD
[23:30] <k1l> someone42: than you cant install
[23:31] <Jahm> How do I burn Ubuntu to pen drive using UEFI by the way?
[23:31] <Jahm> I get this error with Rufus on Windows http://i.imgur.com/rFwqf1C.png
[23:31] <k1l> someone42: you need to run a installation device. like a dvd or a usb-pendrive. from that installation-system you will have to install onto that usb-hdd.
[23:31] <daftykins> Jahm: dd the ISO onto the drive, /dev/sdx
[23:32] <daftykins> with Windows, format the drive as FAT32 then copy the ISO contents on
[23:32] <k1l> someone42: you could setup other installation methods like pxe boot etc. but that is far more advanced knowledge needed. so easiest one is to grab some 2GB usb-pendrive
[23:32] <daftykins> EFI boot does not require any boot sector tricks
[23:32] <Jahm> daftykins: dd?
[23:32] <someone42> k1l: Gotcha, thanks for guidance
[23:32] <daftykins> Jahm: yeah dd was for if the host OS was Linux
[23:33] <Jahm> daftykins: I'll format the pen drive to fat32 and dd the iso image?
[23:34] <loveheartjoylove> is Linux technically just a kernel?
[23:34] <daftykins> Jahm: which OS are you preparing this flash drive from?
[23:34] <rww> sure
[23:35] <TJ-> loveheartjoylove: Linux is the kernel; GNU/Linux is the combination with the GNU-tools based userspace
[23:35] <k1l> loveheartjoylove: yes
[23:35] <bithon> loveheartjoylove: yes. https://www.kernel.org/category/faq.html
[23:35] <Jahm> daftykins: I have installed Ubuntu VM here on my work machine so I'll use Ubuntu
[23:36] <loveheartjoylove> okay thanks, just making sure
[23:36] <daftykins> Jahm: no, using a VM to prepare a physical boot device is pointless
[23:36] <daftykins> use a host OS.
[23:36] <Jahm> Okay
[23:36] <Jahm> My host OS is Mac
[23:36] <daftykins> yep good luck with that then :>
[23:37] <Jahm> Awww
[23:37] <loveheartjoylove> I'm getting my hair some reight now, isn't that hardcore ircing
[23:37] <Jahm> But why
[23:37] <daftykins> loveheartjoylove: support only chat in here, hair care advice in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:37] <rww> it's funny because it's true
[23:38] <Jahm> daftykins: how about a Windows 10?
[23:38] <Jahm> As host os
[23:38] <daftykins> Jahm: i already answered the method for both OSs, so i don't really see the need for me to keep repeating myself
[23:38] <daftykins> as fun as it is
[23:41] <Jahm> Oh sorry I wasn't able to read the method for Windows
[23:41] <Jahm> My bad
[23:41] <notalentgeek> daftykins, Hey mate thanks for helping me I solved the problem by re - installing the whole operating system.
[23:43] <daftykins> haha, that's not an answer
[23:46] <smart> hello guys
[23:46] <smart> how to disable keyring?
[23:47] <keli> hi
[23:48] <keli> anyone know how to start tor from the terminal for the first time
[23:49] <Jahm> daftykins: last thing. I have copied the ISO content to a FAT32 pen drive. Can I automatically boot to this right?
[23:49] <keli> return some errors
[23:50] <daftykins> Jahm: if it was the only partition, yeah it should boot, depending on what the ISO was.
[23:50] <ozbrk> hey guys need to get a solution how can I use one drive on my new born ubuntu ?
[23:50] <k1l> !tor | keli
[23:50] <keli> ait
[23:50] <ozbrk> (using ubuntu for lessons accutaly doens't inclued any games on windows so dual boot is just fine for me no distructions on ubuntu yaaay )
[23:51] <FuZi0N> Thoughts on xfce vs lxde vs lxqt vs mate? Which do you prefer and why?
[23:51] <Jahm> Openbox
[23:51] <FuZi0N> out of the ones i listed though :P
[23:51] <FuZi0N> openbox is tooo simple
[23:51] <FuZi0N> lolk
[23:51] <FuZi0N> lol
[23:52] <Jahm> lxde then
[23:52] <Jahm> I think lxde is based on Openbox too
[23:52] <k1l> FuZi0N: that "opinion poll" is best suited into #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:55] <keli> guess i will have to use their package
[23:59] <fxh> hi I get the following error: mono-sgen requires to install plugins to play media files of the following type: Sphere NIST decoder
[23:59] <fxh> I've tried downloading Sphere and installing it but it didn't solve the proble