| claydoh | wowzers, ppa much? -> https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?69521-Sometimes-after-updating-my-kwin_x11-nor-kwin_wayland-doesnt-want-to-start | 01:50 |
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| claydoh | this exagerated instance does highlight the fact that we have too many ppas in the same place, imnsho | 01:52 |
| RoninLIfe | hello | 04:05 |
| RoninLIfe | welcome | 05:52 |
| RoninLIfe | why somtimes the konsole bugs and gives cpu load even when its closed ? | 05:53 |
| soee | hiho | 06:33 |
| christol_ | Hi Everybody | 09:15 |
| valorie | hi christol_ | 09:15 |
| vip | hi ho | 09:58 |
| clivejo | hi vip | 09:59 |
| clivejo | ark is failing on autotests - 4/4 Test #2: kerfuffle-archivetest ............***Exception: Other 0.26 sec | 10:01 |
| clivejo | any ideas how to fix that? | 10:02 |
| bshah | clivejo: what is output? | 10:02 |
| freeflying | sorry for a silly question, what's the best practice of building package locally? used to use pbuilder-dist, seems its not available any more | 10:03 |
| clivejo | bshah: buildlog --> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/233005127/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.ark_4%3A15.12.0+git20160105.0940+16.04-0_BUILDING.txt.gz | 10:03 |
| clivejo | freeflying: pbuilder | 10:04 |
| freeflying | clivejo, thanks | 10:04 |
| yofel | really? pbuilder-dist was in ubuntu-dev-tools, maybe you're missing that? | 10:04 |
| yofel | freeflying: ^ | 10:04 |
| clivejo | freeflying: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto the kubuntu hooks are handy too | 10:05 |
| freeflying | yofel, correct, I missed that, thanks | 10:06 |
| freeflying | clivejo, thanks | 10:06 |
| yofel | :) | 10:06 |
| clivejo | yofel: is there a way of defering autotests? | 10:07 |
| yofel | defering? | 10:08 |
| yofel | the tests that fail on your are executed by dh_auto_test, that's part of the build chain | 10:09 |
| yofel | you can ofc. override that | 10:09 |
| clivejo | with the new frameworks due out are we going to skip 5.17.0? | 10:11 |
| yofel | lets actually finish 5.17 first, after that we can go with 5.18 for the archive upload | 10:12 |
| clivejo | yofel: I wish I knew how to finish them! | 10:15 |
| clivejo | oxygen-icons5 -> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/230082461/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.oxygen-icons5_4%3A5.17.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz | 10:17 |
| clivejo | what does it even mean?!? | 10:17 |
| yofel | that package is rather broken, AFAIR not even the git repo is correct | 10:19 |
| yofel | ping me in the evening, then I can maybe look at it | 10:19 |
| clivejo | that file is being made in extra-cmake-modules -> -rw-r--r-- root/root 24793 2015-12-06 14:09 ./usr/share/ECM/kde-modules/KDEInstallDirs.cmake | 10:19 |
| clivejo | in package extra-cmake-modules_5.17.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_amd64.deb | 10:20 |
| clivejo | why is ECM yellow? | 10:21 |
| soee_ | yofel: wha about Plasma 5.5.2, are we going to finish it to or just jump to 5.5.3 (should be released today) ? | 10:27 |
| yofel | I would also tend to finishing that. The remaining problems aren't going to go away with .3, and once we've fixed those updating to .3 should be a no-brainer | 10:39 |
| soee_ | yofel: ok, Riddell also says he might delay 5.5.3 by one day or so | 10:40 |
| Mirv | bshah: qtfeedback and qtsystems up-to-date | 10:54 |
| bshah | Mirv: <3 thanks | 10:56 |
| Roninlife | hey | 11:15 |
| soee_ | Roninlife: hiho :) | 11:20 |
| Roninlife | whats up soee | 11:22 |
| soee_ | all good Roninlife :) how about you ? | 11:23 |
| Roninlife | welcome back | 11:46 |
| Roninlife | wb soee | 11:53 |
| Roninlife | lol | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:32 |
| clivejo | hi BluesKaj | 13:02 |
| BluesKaj | hey clivejo, seems we're getting closer to plasma 5.5? | 13:04 |
| kfunk | I hope so! *waits* | 13:04 |
| clivejo | so close, but so far! | 13:05 |
| clivejo | hi apol_ | 13:05 |
| apol_ | hi, I thought somebody might want to answer this https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/3zfkvi/can_somebody_clarify_on_the_current_situation_of/ | 13:06 |
| clivejo | apol_: are you a KDE dev? | 13:08 |
| BluesKaj | apol_: to be clear plasma 5.5 is not ready for kubuntu yet. Read the topic | 13:09 |
| apol_ | clivejo: yes | 13:09 |
| clivejo | thought so | 13:09 |
| clivejo | maybe you can help :) | 13:09 |
| clivejo | kscreenlocker wants to install *.mo files | 13:10 |
| apol_ | BluesKaj: I don't care, I don't use kubuntu, but your users need to know in better places than the IRC chatroom topic | 13:10 |
| clivejo | apol_: there are a few issues with packaging 5.5.2 | 13:11 |
| clivejo | yofel: has been trying to get some answers from upstream | 13:12 |
| apol_ | clivejo: kscreenlocker is part of plasma-workspace | 13:12 |
| yofel | not from upstream | 13:12 |
| yofel | .mo files go into arch-indep data packages usually | 13:12 |
| apol_ | false | 13:12 |
| apol_ | sorry | 13:12 |
| BluesKaj | apol_: agreed, but the devs have been very busy trying to get 5.5 ready so there's hasn't been much time for posting the status in forums | 13:13 |
| yofel | I'm not too happy with kscreenlocker in general, and I didn't ping maxy again if he had a look | 13:13 |
| yofel | (I assume he hasn't yet) | 13:13 |
| apol_ | clivejo: that's what kscreenlocker installs http://pastebin.com/q7b6AWbc | 13:13 |
| clivejo | you meant upstream as in debian *face palm* | 13:13 |
| clivejo | sorry yofel and apol | 13:13 |
| yofel | oh. right. | 13:13 |
| apol_ | :D ok | 13:13 |
| yofel | that counts as upstream, somewhat | 13:13 |
| clivejo | we have a lot of upstreams! | 13:14 |
| apol_ | we are the cool ones though | 13:14 |
| clivejo | yes you are | 13:14 |
| clivejo | KDE make the best software! | 13:14 |
| soee | so we are stuck with plasma and frameworks because of upstreams ? | 13:15 |
| clivejo | yofel: there was something we had to ask KDE thought? | 13:15 |
| clivejo | was it discover? | 13:16 |
| yofel | oh right, good memory you have | 13:16 |
| clivejo | I know, my memory is so bad, I need to make notes | 13:16 |
| yofel | apol_: regarding kscreenlocker, what of the data files in /usr/share are specific to the kcm? (other than the ones with kcm in their path/name) | 13:17 |
| yofel | the ksmserver, kservice, etc. stuff belong to the lib, right? | 13:17 |
| apol_ | yofel: ksmserver belongs to plasma-workspace | 13:18 |
| apol_ | it's one of the main processes that are started when plasma boots | 13:18 |
| yofel | apol_: I mean from your paste, e.g. /home/kde-devel/kde5/share/ksmserver/screenlocker/org.kde.passworddialog | 13:18 |
| yofel | that's for the lib, not for the kcm, right? | 13:19 |
| apol_ | yofel: I'd ask mgraesslin, I don't know what org.kde.passworddialog is | 13:20 |
| yofel | ok | 13:20 |
| bshah | its screen locker theme IIRC | 13:20 |
| bshah | moment, let me check | 13:20 |
| mgraesslin | looks like a left over | 13:21 |
| mgraesslin | it's just a metadata.desktop | 13:21 |
| bshah | yeh.. | 13:21 |
| bshah | should be killed | 13:22 |
| apol_ | looks like a murder candidate, yes | 13:24 |
| yofel | ok, aside from that, the knotification rc, dbus interface as well as kcheckpass and kscreenlocker_greet are used by plasma, right? And not by the kcm | 13:26 |
| yofel | mgraesslin: ^ | 13:27 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: sorry I don't understand the question | 13:27 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: are you trying to split the package? | 13:27 |
| yofel | mgraesslin: yes, would the screen locker work if any of that is missing? | 13:28 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: if you remove anything of that you destroy the lockscreen | 13:28 |
| yofel | thanks, that's what I wanted to know | 13:28 |
| bshah | knotification rc wouldn't be required? | 13:28 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: as that is security relevant I suggest to not perform any splitting without consulting us | 13:29 |
| yofel | mgraesslin: right, someone already tried to split things and made a seperate kcm and lib package (which is good), but also bundled all data files with the kcm, which is wrong | 13:29 |
| mgraesslin | bshah: it's emitting screen locked/unlocked notifications, no idea whether that breaks | 13:29 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: the greeter must be together with the lib | 13:30 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: also all files used by the greeter must be together with the lib | 13:30 |
| mgraesslin | my suggestion would be: don't split | 13:31 |
| yofel | well, multiarch kind of requires us to, but now I at least know for certain that the current split is broken | 13:34 |
| yofel | so thanks for clearing that up | 13:34 |
| yofel | (or at least the package naming if we make everything required in the end) | 13:34 |
| yofel | o.O | 13:48 |
| yofel | how did kscreenlocker end up with 3 UNRELEASED changelog entries | 13:48 |
| yofel | ah, maxy did already go into fixing mode for kscreenlocker after all | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | wth is all this trouble with screenlocker anyway?, seems like you guys are stuck on this thing | 13:54 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: do you want to have a working screen lock or a broken one? | 13:54 |
| yofel | if the packaging is wrong you'll end up with latter | 13:54 |
| BluesKaj | yofel: well , frankly I don't use it | 13:55 |
| bshah | yofel: thing is screenlocker is split from plasma-workspace.. | 13:55 |
| bshah | so maybe do exactly what plasma-workspace did? | 13:55 |
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| yofel | clivejo: kscreenlocker DONE | 14:38 |
| soee | ;o | 14:38 |
| yofel | (mostly just merged in maxy's work that he just pushed) | 14:38 |
| soee | yofel: so what is left in 5.5.2 ? | 14:44 |
| yofel | not much, a bunch of yellow stuff, oxygen from frameworks, the ksnapshot release so it doesn't conflict with the new thing whose name I can't remember | 14:45 |
| yofel | and I think there was some kconf stuff to be looked at, but that's not that important | 14:46 |
| marco-parillo | The replacement for ksnapshot is Spektakle, spelled Spectacle (https://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-applications-15.12.0.php) | 14:47 |
| yofel | right, THAT THING | 14:48 |
| yofel | curious that everyone seems fine with "kscreenlocker", but "kspectacle"... no, we don't like stuff that starts with a k... | 14:49 |
| soee | ;D | 14:51 |
| mamarley | Maybe I am in the minority, but I always thought the application names with Ks were, well, Kute. | 14:53 |
| soee | Kinda | 14:53 |
| soee | yofel: but wait, so we have ksnapshot and spectacle now, both ? | 14:54 |
| yofel | kompletely true | 14:54 |
| yofel | soee: no, but there was one last ksnapshot release which has some transtition-relevant changes I believe | 14:55 |
| yofel | can't remember the whole email contents right now | 14:55 |
| soee | kscreenlocker builds fine | 14:56 |
| mamarley | I have noticed that kwin 5.5 dramatically improves an issue that has existed ever since buffer age support was added, laggy window dragging. | 14:59 |
| yofel | mgraesslin: is there any point in us building kwin with libhybris? | 14:59 |
| mamarley | It also fixes some relatively severe stability problems I was getting with 5.4.2. | 14:59 |
| mgraesslin | yofel: the libhybris in Ubuntu is too old. We need upstream, not Ubuntu's fork | 15:00 |
| yofel | ok, thanks | 15:00 |
| ScottK | yofel: FYI, detrout uploaded sddm 0.13 to Debian yesterday. I see Kubuntu's a couple of releases behind. | 15:02 |
| yofel | ScottK: thanks. _Groo tried to update it to .13 recently, but we never finished it. We'll go with her work then | 15:03 |
| * yofel wonders if we want to give sddm on tty1 another try | 15:20 | |
| yofel | might as well | 15:21 |
| yofel | oh, debian switches to 7 in a different patch | 15:22 |
| yofel | Mirv: is there some docs how to replicate those autopkgtests? I'm rather clueless about what's wrong with kdepimlibs and kdepim-runtime for qtbase, and kdelibs4support has an acc failure but no build artifacts :/ | 16:00 |
| yofel | and there seem to be a couple "testsuite FAIL timed out" kind of regressions, however that happens | 16:00 |
| * yofel puts on his "I don't care" hat and goes on with his life | 16:08 | |
| clivejo | awww dont do that! | 16:10 |
| clivejo | you do care! | 16:10 |
| * clivejo makes yofel "I care toio much" hat | 16:10 | |
| yofel | heh | 16:10 |
| yofel | lolwhat, the rocs amd64 autopackagetest regression is a g++ ICE o.O | 16:11 |
| yofel | haven't seen that in a while | 16:11 |
| clivejo | sorry I had to run off, had to take the pup to the vet and then took him on a walk | 16:11 |
| clivejo | will you be free later yofel? | 16:11 |
| yofel | after 8pm utc probably, if I feel motivated | 16:12 |
| clivejo | Id like to try packaging sddm | 16:12 |
| yofel | oh, then you're too late, I just did the merge ^^ | 16:13 |
| clivejo | awwww | 16:13 |
| * clivejo cries | 16:13 | |
| clivejo | will it be in staging, or testing? | 16:14 |
| yofel | you could try if the thing actually works: https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/5933756/+listing-archive-extra | 16:14 |
| yofel | in my ppa right now | 16:14 |
| yofel | I'll try it later | 16:15 |
| clivejo | Ill install it | 16:18 |
| yofel | hm, I forgot to generate the full changelog, need to remember that for the archive upload | 16:18 |
| soee | with the current Plasma 5.5.2 and Frameworks 5.17, plasmashell crashes each time when running apt update | 16:24 |
| yofel | update or upgrade o.O? | 16:24 |
| soee | update | 16:25 |
| soee | plasmashell crashes when starting this action and finishing | 16:25 |
| yofel | got the stacktrace...? That's rather weird | 16:25 |
| Mirv | yofel: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html is the official documentation | 16:26 |
| soee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/14411714/ | 16:26 |
| yofel | Mirv: thanks! | 16:26 |
| yofel | oh, muon, great *-.- | 16:27 |
| Mirv | yofel: if you look below the tests, you see "Should wait ... but forced" lines, so you can skip those ie currently kwayland rocs kdelibs4support kaccounts-integration kdepim-runtime kservice. the others however are what do block the migration. | 16:27 |
| yofel | aaah, right | 16:27 |
| Mirv | yofel: kdepimlibs fails at 41/62 Test #41: akonadi-sqlite-itemsynctest .................***Failed according to the log so one can also try to execute that test from within the source tree instead of the full adt machinery | 16:28 |
| soee | also muon was removed before, and now when i try to install it: muon : Depends: libmuon (= 4:5.4.3-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 16:28 |
| Mirv | and of course ideally you/someone at Kubuntu would force others too if decided they are not real regressions | 16:28 |
| yofel | soee: muon is gone officially, I'm not quite sure what happened to the fork that people wanted to keep alive | 16:29 |
| Mirv | for asking to rerun tests that seem flaky, pitti is afaik still the main contact | 16:29 |
| yofel | ok | 16:29 |
| yofel | bbl | 16:30 |
| genii | yofel: So this means back to Synaptic then? | 16:31 |
| yofel | genii: for GUI *package* management, yeah. Simply not enough of a use case these days to justify the maintenance it seems | 16:32 |
| BluesKaj | yofel: I still have muon on plasma 5.4.3 | 16:32 |
| BluesKaj | xenial | 16:32 |
| yofel | right, that's still there, but that'll be the last version of it | 16:33 |
| yofel | now really gone | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | bummer I like muon as a package reference guide, sometimes I even use it to install packages | 16:35 |
| * genii goes to check the -devel mailing list to find out who took over the muon packaging so he can pester them | 16:40 | |
| genii | Hm, "Rick" | 16:42 |
| BluesKaj | genii: good, why remove a perfectly good package manager in favour of some called "software center" gui that gives very little info about packages | 16:43 |
| genii | BluesKaj: Apparently the current maintainer is supposed to be Rick Timmis, aka Sick_Rimmit on IRC | 16:45 |
| * BluesKaj nods | 16:45 | |
| snele | i much much much prefer muon over synaptic so i have to ask because i didn't understand well: are muon be going to be available in 16.04? | 16:52 |
| snele | or it is going to be removed from achive? | 16:53 |
| * ovidiu-florin is sexy and he knows it | 17:01 | |
| ovidiu-florin | ;-P | 17:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | hello humans | 17:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo yofel https://paste.kde.org/pord0vftl | 17:03 |
| mamarley | yofel: I just installed your sddm 0.13 package and it works fine for me. :) | 18:17 |
| genii | Ouch, 4 hours | 18:23 |
| yofel | snele: undecided yet I guess. Depends if we get something maintaned before release. Shipping software that nobody cares about for the next 5 or so years isn't something I like doing | 19:06 |
| yofel | mamarley: thanks for testing! | 19:06 |
| mamarley | The SDDM update did break the systemd unit I wrote for x11vnc, but that isn't your problem. | 19:08 |
| genii | I have lightdm as my default dm, but for some reason sddm keeps running also | 19:13 |
| mamarley | My problem is that the auth file was previously /var/run/sddm/:0, but the new one is a randomly-generated name that I can't hardcode... | 19:14 |
| yofel | genii: I've seen a bug report for that actually, I wonder why that happens | 19:21 |
| yofel | systemd internals are a mystery :S | 19:21 |
| genii | Maybe I should just chmod -x it for now | 19:26 |
| claydoh | re: muon package manager, I remember talk of discover being split, or something along those lines, but I don't recall mention of Muon package manager going away. | 19:56 |
| claydoh | that won't go down well. | 19:58 |
| * claydoh goes and looks at octopi..... | 19:58 | |
| marco-parillo | Can Octopi handle Ubuntu Archives? | 19:59 |
| claydoh | i dunno, but it is used by Kaos | 20:00 |
| marco-parillo | I do not think it is packaged: apt-cache policy octopi | 20:04 |
| claydoh | so it probab ly can be made to, or at least allow hooking into software-properties-kde like Muon and Synaptic can | 20:04 |
| claydoh | no, it is not in Ubuntu. | 20:04 |
| marco-parillo | N: Unable to locate package octopi (at least on xenial) | 20:04 |
| marco-parillo | So then it is off-topic, but what is nice is that (on Manjaro at least), it can also search the AUR. | 20:05 |
| claydoh | well nevermind for some reason I was thinking that kaos was somehow debian based | 20:08 |
| yofel | Riddell: do you know what exactly oxygen-icons5 is compared to oxygen-icons? | 20:14 |
| yofel | the same thing renamed or what? | 20:14 |
| Riddell | yofel: yes but released with frameworks instead of plasma | 20:35 |
| Riddell | yofel: yes but released with frameworks instead of applications | 20:35 |
| yofel | meh, oh well | 20:35 |
| Riddell | renamed cos applications version is 15.x while frameworks is 5.x | 20:35 |
| Riddell | so drop oxygen-icons and pick up oxygen-icons5 | 20:36 |
| yofel | I still haven't decided whether it makes sense to rename the binary.. | 20:36 |
| yofel | lets see what maxy prefers when he comes back | 20:37 |
| yofel | oh, fun, discover also has a name conflict | 20:40 |
| yofel | yay | 20:40 |
| * clivejo dances | 20:41 | |
| yofel | people need to stop it with these overly simplistic names. It's as if everyone already forgot the systemsettings mess | 20:42 |
| clivejo | !info gfortran-5 | 20:42 |
| ubottu | gfortran-5 (source: gcc-5): GNU Fortran compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 5.2.1-22ubuntu2 (wily), package size 6369 kB, installed size 21227 kB | 20:42 |
| yofel | you're interested in ancient programming languages? ^^ | 20:42 |
| * clivejo wonders why he needs a fortran compiler | 20:43 | |
| * clivejo is doing an upgrade and for some reason thats being installed | 20:44 | |
| yofel | curious | 20:45 |
| clivejo | very curious, verging on crazy | 20:45 |
| yofel | and discover also has multiple unreleased changelogs.. | 20:45 |
| clivejo | !info poppler | 20:47 |
| ubottu | Package poppler does not exist in wily | 20:47 |
| yofel | that's pdf stuff | 20:48 |
| clivejo | Id better put the bins out before I forget | 20:48 |
| yofel | grr, who comes up with unversioned libs in discover *-.- | 20:50 |
| denza242 | Is -CI usable yet :x | 20:56 |
| yofel | I'll just go with the epoch for oxygen-icons, if debian decides to rename the binary we won't have a problem anyway | 20:58 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: can you send me a changelog with your signature please | 21:00 |
| yofel | now to sort out that library mess in discover | 21:00 |
| * clivejo gives yofel a puppy treat | 21:01 | |
| clivejo | anyone else having issues with git.debian.org? | 21:06 |
| yofel | WFM right now | 21:06 |
| clivejo | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | 21:07 |
| yofel | shlib-without-versioned-soname libDiscoverNotifiers.so | 21:07 |
| yofel | target_link_libraries(DiscoverNotifierDeclarativePlugin | 21:07 |
| yofel | Discover::Notifiers | 21:07 |
| yofel | why do people do stuff like this :'( | 21:07 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: pokes | 21:10 |
| soee_ | yofel: this discover mess is related to the plasma crash i mentioned ? | 21:52 |
| clivejo | anyone know what KCI is doing? | 22:16 |
| clivejo | and why builds seem to be timing out after 4 hours | 22:17 |
| soee_ | not me | 22:33 |
| soee_ | i see a lot of apps packages have been fixed | 22:33 |
| soee_ | so we almost have Plasma 5.5.2, have already Frameworks 5.17 | 22:34 |
| soee_ | and apps are WIP | 22:34 |
| soee_ | :) | 22:34 |
| clivejo | depends what you call a lot | 22:34 |
| soee_ | clivejo: lot of green | 22:34 |
| clivejo | yofel: ping | 22:35 |
| soee_ | does it make sens for you guys: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/05/snapshot46.png | 22:39 |
| soee_ | (the notification content) | 22:39 |
| clivejo | soee_: what you mean? | 22:40 |
| soee_ | clivejo: notification title suggest that there are some updates | 22:40 |
| soee_ | but the message says that system is up to date .. | 22:40 |
| clivejo | which is it? | 22:41 |
| soee_ | ?? | 22:41 |
| clivejo | if you do an apt-get is there updates? | 22:42 |
| soee_ | clivejo: this one pops up after updates are applied | 22:43 |
| soee_ | so the title should be something like: All updates installed | 22:43 |
| soee_ | or something | 22:43 |
| soee_ | ill try to catch tomorrow some Plasma dev | 22:45 |
| soee_ | and suggest changing it | 22:45 |
| clivejo | could be something to do with the muon issues | 22:45 |
| soee_ | looks more like wrong label used here | 22:46 |
| soee_ | mamarley: do you plan to add it t drivers ppa: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-361.16-Beta ? | 23:11 |
| mamarley | soee_: Ah, another NVIDIA beta, fun fun. Yep, I am on it! :) | 23:11 |
| soee_ | :D | 23:12 |
| soee_ | im up to test them when ready | 23:12 |
| valorie | gosh I hope that Muon package manager doesn't disappear | 23:12 |
| valorie | so much better than synaptic | 23:12 |
| soee_ | true :( | 23:13 |
| mamarley | I actually never tried Muon. No point in it now, I guess... | 23:13 |
| clivejo | didnt Rick and some others volenteer to maintain it? | 23:14 |
| soee_ | for e it was just easiest way to search for packages and install them, though it can be done from terminal to | 23:14 |
| soee_ | clivejo: yes i think | 23:14 |
| valorie | sure, I use the term most of the time, because it's faster | 23:15 |
| valorie | but muon has nice tabs about changelogs and so | 23:16 |
| valorie | I'm sure there are cli equivalents, but Muon Just Works | 23:16 |
| soee_ | mamarley: any idea if upgrading kernel might be an issue for existing nvidia driver? | 23:16 |
| mamarley | soee_: It sometimes is, though I am pretty sure that most of what we have in the PPA right now is compatible with 4.3 in Xenial. Let me or ricotz know if you have any issues. | 23:17 |
| mamarley | Hopefully they won't have changed file paths or added new modules this time like they did last time... | 23:18 |
| soee_ | mamarley: ok. i'm also talking about scenario i had last day: i moved from 358 to 355 and it worked pretty good (switching profile to intel also worked). Than i did kernel update via normal xenial updates and couldn't switch to nvidia. So i tried prime-select command etc. and it switched somehow to nvidia but then system crashed when booting .. than: | 23:20 |
| mamarley | Hmm, that's odd... | 23:20 |
| soee_ | i booted with older kernel version (it worked), purged 355, installed 358 and now all works on this new kernel | 23:21 |
| soee_ | what is the log file for system booting (after plymouth - before sddm) ? | 23:23 |
| clivejo | wonder will KCI fail these after 4 hours | 23:37 |
| genii | The last one seemed to be 50 minutes instead of 4 hours | 23:37 |
| clivejo | there are a lot in the queue 3 hours 50mins old | 23:38 |
| clivejo | 13 of them | 23:39 |
| clivejo | I think there is something wrong | 23:39 |
| clivejo | last build of cantor took 20 mins | 23:40 |
| clivejo | 3 minutes and counting .... | 23:45 |
| soee_ | :) | 23:47 |
| mamarley | soee_: Sorry, this is taking longer because Nvidia went and changed file paths/symlinks again. As I sure you all are aware, packaging is Fun®. :) | 23:51 |
| clivejo | weird - stderr: ssh: connect to host git.debian.org port 22: No route to host | 23:51 |
| soee_ | sure thing :) | 23:51 |
| clivejo | sitter: whats wrong with KCI? | 23:52 |
| clivejo | yofel: I need help. Ive done something to knavalbattle and I cant see whats wrong - https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/8805754/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.knavalbattle_4%3A15.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz | 23:55 |
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