[00:14] <k1l> Sebastien (~hi@freenude/staff/sebastien)  ?
[00:15] <Unit193> k1l: Do a double take on that.
[00:32] <cartwright> ayy
[00:33] <rww> hi
[00:33] <cartwright> I forgot who banned me from #ubuntu-offtopic anyone remember?
[00:34] <cartwright> I just remember why and it's necessary to discuss something relevant
[00:34] <rww> IdleOne
[00:35] <cartwright> where he @ doe?
[00:35] <cartwright> where they @ doe?
[00:35] <k1l> does it really matter or are you just bored again and what to have "some fun" with waisting other peoples lifetime?
[00:35] <cartwright> uh
[00:35] <k1l> *want
[00:35] <cartwright> yeah it does matter
[00:35] <cartwright> it's of severe importance
[00:35] <rww> cartwright: he's Guest62646
[00:36] <cartwright> NickServ (NickServ@services.): Last seen  : (about 0 weeks ago)
[00:36] <Unit193> Eg, not here.
[00:36] <cartwright> not even about A WEEK AGO.
[00:36] <cartwright> oh
[00:36] <k1l> cartwright: here are other #ubuntu-offtopic ops who can look into the issue if its important
[00:36] <rww> 0 weeks ago is usually secret code for "currently logged in"
[00:36] <cartwright> nah it's not so much the issue of me getting banned but the social implications of why he banned me
[00:36] <cartwright> like I'm fine with still being banned
[00:37] <cartwright> and in fact if it's possible I'd like to be rebanned on #ubuntu too
[00:37] <rww> you were banned two years ago. I'm not sure what would be relevant to this channel after two years that needs IdleOne and not another op
[00:37] <cartwright> not just the muting pansy garbage
[00:37] <cartwright> that's for me and him to discuss
[00:37] <cartwright> in public
[00:37] <cartwright> in front of an audience
[00:37] <rww> you should probably get to the point, then.
[00:38] <cartwright> Guest62646: are you here mang?
[00:38] <cartwright> well idle for an hour and change
[00:38] <cartwright> guess that's why he's idleone
[00:38] <rww> ayup
[00:38] <cartwright> another time then, I'll bbl
[00:38] <rww> bye
[00:38] <rww> @mark #ubuntu-ops cartwright usual waste of time
[05:11] <Sebastien> rww
[05:11] <Sebastien> there is nothing to resolve really
[05:11] <rww> elaborate?
[05:11] <Sebastien> and i told the person who muted me about it
[05:11] <Sebastien> http://i.imgur.com/KmJ43jd.png
[05:12] <rww> so... you knew you were quieted and joined the channel anyway?
[05:12] <rww> this is not very smart.
[05:12] <Sebastien> i was in there all along...
[05:12] <rww> okay, spoke in*
[05:12] <Sebastien> don't judge my level of intelligence.
[05:12] <Sebastien> im not rood to you dont be root to me
[05:12] <Sebastien> kinda simple
[05:12] <Sebastien> ye?
[05:12] <rww> don't evade quiets that you know are set against you?
[05:12] <Sebastien> rood *
[05:12] <rww> telling an op who's afk that you know you're evading a quiet doesn't really mean that you're not evading the quiet
[05:13] <Sebastien> did you see his reason for the quiet
[05:13] <rww> yep
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:34:43] <Sebastien> daftykins, im not a teen, im 31 yrs old. and im fucking pissed that nothing i try or attempt works, even with all the commands everyone gave me here, it still does not work. i tried to add a new user, add it to a group (www-data) i trhied to chmod the files, i tried to to it manually, with 3 different sFTP clients.
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:34:46] <Sebastien> none of it works
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:34:57] <Sebastien> so before starting to fucking insult me for no fucking reasons, shut the fuck up
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:34:58] <Sebastien> thanks
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:34:59] <k1l_> i think we should not put Sebastien into defence too much. lets move on
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:35:11] <Razzdoll> Sebastien, that isnt nice. i think they are trying to help
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:35:26] <Sebastien> no, he is insulting me for trying ( daftykins is )
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:35:32] <Sebastien> everyone else is friendly, and helpful
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:35:52] * ChanServ sets mode: +o k1l_
[05:15] <Sebastien> [17:35:53] * k1l_ sets mode: +q *!*@botters/Sebastien
[05:15] <Sebastien> im getting bashed at
[05:15] <Sebastien> and i can't defend myself?
[05:15] <Sebastien> pretty pathetic
[05:15] <Sebastien> try this face to face
[05:15] <rww> that is not acceptable behavior for #ubuntu. if you think that's acceptable behavior, please find another support venue.
[05:16] <Sebastien> its not an acceptable behavior to me to insult me
[05:16] <Sebastien> and try to taunt me for no fucking reason
[05:16] <Sebastien> you wont stand for it yourself
[05:16] <Sebastien> same rights applies to me
[05:16] <rww> two wrongs don't make a right.
[05:16] <Sebastien> sho what
[05:16] <Sebastien> so what
[05:16] <Sebastien> its not like i evaded a ban
[05:17] <Sebastien> he forced me to shutthefuckup at that time
[05:17] <Sebastien> nobody said it was forever till i come here.
[05:17] <Sebastien> hence, nothing to resolve
[05:17] <Sebastien> yall panicking too much for nothing here all the damm time
[05:17] <rww> You got quieted. You knew you were actively quieted. You chose to talk in the channel anyway.
[05:17] <Sebastien> take a chill pill
[05:17] <Sebastien> to be 100% honest, i forgot for a few minutes while having an issue and asked a question
[05:18] <Sebastien> the new cloak was not to evade shit
[05:18] <Sebastien> like i have time to waste with people crying for big words
[05:18] <Sebastien> yall grown ups right?
[05:18] <rww> "crying for big words" means what?
[05:18] <Sebastien> i dropped a fbomb
[05:19] <Sebastien> and got muted for it
[05:19] <Sebastien> read up or i can paste again if needed
[05:19] <rww> Yep. The channel rules in our entrymsg and the topic specifically say not to do that.
[05:19] <Sebastien> a fuse has so much lenght
[05:19] <rww> If you're not able to abide by #ubuntu's rules, don't go in #ubuntu. If you're in #ubuntu and find yourself unable to continue following #ubuntu's rules, part.
[05:19] <Sebastien> dont be a robot rww.
[05:20] <Sebastien> life don't work that way
[05:20] <rww> It sounds robotic because it's very obvious common sense.
[05:20] <Sebastien> stop doing that
[05:22] <Sebastien> so, i dropped an fbomb, i got muted for a day, came back and accidentally spoke when i forgot. (didn't drop any fbombs or trolled, i had a legitimate question)
[05:23] <Sebastien> did you get over it now, because i did
[05:23] <rww> "for a day" is inaccurate
[05:23] <Sebastien> how long is it for so i can set a darn timer
[05:24] <rww> you got muted. you're still muted. you being unmuted because a staffer got bored and changed your cloak was something that k1l wasn't expecting when he muted you, so it was by cloak and not accountname
[05:24] <rww> since your cloak isn't stable, your mute is now by accountname
[05:24] <Sebastien> ok
[05:24] <Sebastien> great
[05:24] <rww> and it'll stay set until chanops have confidence in your ability to be in #ubuntu without getting frustrated and them blaming other people for cussing
[05:25] <Sebastien> how long for yall to get over it
[05:25] <rww> which comments like "get over it" are not helping with
[05:25] <Sebastien> im cussing because im fucking pissed, push the right buttons and it happens
[05:25] <Sebastien> its normal
[05:25] <Sebastien> in a functioning society
[05:25] <rww> and yet a thousand or so people manage to filter what their fingers type in #ubuntu
[05:25] <Sebastien> well dude, are you a prince or something. do i need to bow
[05:25] <rww> it's just a handful of people who insist it's "normal" to not be able to stop themselves cussing. hrm.
[05:26] <Sebastien> im sorry if you got raised in a church
[05:26] <Sebastien> i was not
[05:26] <Sebastien> lets just get over it?
[05:26] <Sebastien> for the 3rd time?
[05:26] <rww> how about you come back when you're not going to repeatedly deflect everything that's said to you
[05:26] <Sebastien> omg dude
[05:26] <Sebastien> where do you think this is, court?
[05:26] <Sebastien> like pls
[05:27] <rww> good example, not that
[05:27] <Sebastien> ill try not to swear
[05:27] <Sebastien> how about that?
[05:27] <rww> how about you come back tomorrow and we'll talk about it then
[05:28] <rww> hi [Mew2]
[05:28] <rww> @mark #ubuntu-ops Sebastien
[05:28] <rww> (that last message about tomorrow was directed at someone else who left just after you joined)
[05:29] <[Mew2]> yes hi
[05:29] <[Mew2]> actually never mind
[05:29] <[Mew2]> sorry and thanks
[05:29] <[Mew2]> bye
[07:16] <[Mew2]> hello
[07:16] <[Mew2]> any ops available?
[07:22] <Ben64> can someone please slap [Mew2]
[07:22] <[Mew2]> can i ask why?
[07:23] <Ben64> you're being incredibly dense, you ask how to add a user, i tell you, you ask something weird, i ask why, and you say because you want to know how to add a user, which was already answered
[07:23] <[Mew2]> and how do i define the priveldges for that user?"
[07:23] <[Mew2]> this is what i asked
[07:24] <Ben64> supporting you is quite a monumental amount of effort, you seem to oppose anyone who tries, and then get an attitude when someone asks you a question about your motives
[07:24] <[Mew2]> i asked how to define priveldges and you go on a personal attack?
[07:25] <Ben64> i'm asking what you're trying to accomplish by "defining privileges on a user"
[07:25] <Ben64> because that doesn't make sense
[07:25] <[Mew2]> it makes complete sense, a user can be root or non root, i want to know how to manages my users priveledges...
[07:25] <Ben64> so instead of trying to solve what you think is the problem, i'm trying to get you to explain the actual issue
[07:25] <[Mew2]> there is no issue
[07:25] <[Mew2]> i am learning
[07:26] <Ben64> right, so explain what you want
[07:26] <[Mew2]> """"and how do i define the priveldges for that user?""""
[07:26] <Ben64> explain what you want
[07:26] <[Mew2]> ok maybe i am not making sense
[07:26] <[Mew2]> that command you gave me
[07:26] <[Mew2]> sudo adduser ...
[07:26] <[Mew2]> is this user root or not root
[07:26] <Ben64> not root
[07:26] <[Mew2]> ok
[07:27] <[Mew2]> how do i change it to root or vice versa
[07:27] <Ben64> only root is root
[07:27] <[Mew2]> that is what im trying to say
[07:27] <[Mew2]> but i dont have a root user on my account
[07:27] <[Mew2]> i only have user ubuntu
[07:27] <Ben64> root is disabled by default
[07:27] <Ben64> it's not wise to use, and definitely not wise to open up to the internet
[07:28] <[Mew2]> so how do i add user "xyz" with the same priveledges that "root" would have
[07:28] <Ben64> you don't
[07:28] <[Mew2]> of course this is not something i would open to the internet
[07:28] <[Mew2]> i am going to test this on a virtual machine
[07:28] <Ben64> you've been talking about using ftp to write to anywhere as root
[07:29] <[Mew2]> ive talked about at least a dozen topics in the past week
[07:29] <[Mew2]> as i said
[07:29] <[Mew2]> im learning
[07:31] <[Mew2]> so
[07:32] <[Mew2]> can i get an appology for the witch hunt that you are on?
[07:32] <Ben64> no, but you should be less combative when someone asks you a fairly simple question about your goals
[07:32] <[Mew2]> i bare understand what you guys ask/tell me
[07:32] <[Mew2]> and then ten people jump at me
[07:32] <Ben64> then ask for an explanation for anything you don't understand
[07:33] <[Mew2]> and people start making remarks against me for being a newb
[07:33] <Ben64> nobody has said that to you at all
[07:34] <[Mew2]> some guy told me to move evrythign to the home directory earlier?
[07:34] <[Mew2]> i didnt even know this was bad avice untill you guys said it
[07:36] <Ben64> nobody is out to get you, you just need to accept advice
[07:37] <[Mew2]> i do, and thats how i got to where i am today, more knowledgeable then a week ago
[07:38] <[Mew2]> but i am asking how to change user priveledges
[07:38] <[Mew2]> and you keep askign why
[07:38] <[Mew2]> im just trying to learn
[07:38] <Ben64> i asked what you're trying to accomplish by doing that
[07:39] <[Mew2]> well i said "learning" but you didnt accept that, so lets try "managing users"?
[07:39] <Flannel> Hi folks.  I see that the two of you seem to have some issue with each other.
[07:39] <Ben64> no but you did answer my question in here, <[Mew2]> how do i change it to root or vice versa
[07:39] <Ben64> which i told you is not possible
[07:40] <Flannel> Give me a minute to read a whole bunch of scrollback.  In the mean time, please stop poking each other with sticks (even if that means not talking at all).  Thanks.
[07:40] <[Mew2]> i am not trying to change the added user to the username root
[07:40] <Ben64> yes i understand that, but only root has root permissions
[07:40] <[Mew2]> i am trying to change the priveledges of the added user
[07:40] <Flannel> Ben64, [Mew2]: Hi.  Please stop talking for the moment.
[07:40] <Ben64> you can't do that, which is why the question doesn't really make sense, which is why i asked for clarification on your goals
[07:40] <Flannel> Ben64, [Mew2]: Hi.  Please stop talking for the moment.
[07:41] <[Mew2]> i dont get how it "doesnt make sense tho"
[07:41] <Flannel> Ben64, [Mew2]: Hi.  Please stop talking for the moment.
[07:41] <[Mew2]> sorry
[07:41] <Flannel> Thanks :)
[07:46] <Flannel> Alright.  I think I'm more or less caught up.
[07:47] <Flannel> So, what's the issue here?  not the technical question, but why are you each here?
[07:47] <[Mew2]> Ben64 is here to get me "slapped"
[07:47] <[Mew2]> i am here to defend my self
[07:48] <Flannel> [Mew2]: I'd rather have Ben64 answer for himself.  And I imagine I'll end up talking to each of you separately (I just don't know which order/what I'm talking about, etc).  What are you here to defend yourself from?  As you joined first.
[07:48] <[Mew2]> so
[07:49] <moonman> [Mew2]: did you get banned too?
[07:49] <[Mew2]> what no
[07:49] <[Mew2]> who are you
[07:49] <Flannel> [Mew2]: Just ignore him please.
[07:49] <[Mew2]> i joined freenode a few weeks ago
[07:49] <[Mew2]> i am what is considered before a noob
[07:50] <moonman> Flannel: fuck you
[07:50] <[Mew2]> wow
[07:50] <[Mew2]> i ask question in #ubuntu
[07:50] <[Mew2]> and i realize they may sound silly
[07:50] <Flannel> [Mew2]: Gotcha.
[07:50] <[Mew2]> but i dont realize that they do
[07:50] <Flannel> [Mew2]: I'm going to take this into a query with you, if you don't mind.
[07:50] <[Mew2]> because most of the time i dont know what im doing
[07:50] <[Mew2]> ok
[07:51] <[Mew2]> moonman arnt you the guy who was flaring the n****r word all up in the main channel?
[07:52] <moonman> no i wasn't
[07:52] <moonman> i never said nigger
[07:52] <moonman> now i did
[08:03] <moonman> Flannel: are you a nigger?
[08:10] <Tm_T> moonman: is there something you need from this channel?
[08:10] <moonman> yes
[08:10] <moonman> can you suck my dick?
 but i can't wait until you grow up
[12:14] <k1l_> that is the same user as zertyu, erop, ipkaf etc. the host was banned several times now. but then he came in here to play the innocent other user and requested a ban removal