[07:10] <doug5> balloons, hello
[08:08] <oSoMoN> pitti, is the "queue length" section in http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.shtml to be trusted?
[08:09] <pitti> oSoMoN: yes, that should be correct
[08:09] <pitti> oSoMoN: but we've had a couple of tempfails
[08:10] <pitti> i. e. britney is waiting for tests which failed on cloud errors, etc.; I'm cleaning that up in a sec (just waiting for the three running arm tests)
[08:10] <oSoMoN> pitti, I’m looking at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#webbrowser-app which says tests are in progress, yet I’m not seeing them being run or in the queue, am I missing something?
[08:11] <flocculant> balloons: tbh I don't know what got done or not re tracker
[14:51] <balloons> What do you mean?
[16:08] <balloons> flocculant, wxl, tracker is updated. Have a look
[16:09] <balloons> Notice for example: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109720/testcases/1437/results
[16:09] <balloons> It's interesting we've buried the add result box now
[16:11] <balloons> Overall, that page is quite long now, we should think about it
[16:49] <flocculant> balloons: agreed - it is long, but that was always going to be end result of changing how bugs show up
[16:50] <flocculant> perhaps move add result above bugs - but have 'Bugs to look for' be a link and have the bug list at the bottom
[16:51] <balloons> mmm
[16:51] <flocculant> balloons: and I mean I lost track of what was done/being done/not published
[16:51] <balloons> flocculant, ahh. It's all published now
[16:51] <flocculant> yea mmm is a bit more politic than meh :)
[16:51] <balloons> i liked the idea. I'm thinking it could be expanded
[16:52] <flocculant> one thing - the bug list - does it really need to show fix released?
[16:57] <flocculant> or invalid
[16:58] <balloons> mmm. Well, good queston
[16:59] <flocculant> I try sometimes
[16:59] <balloons> I suppose it's a question of how curated we want the list
[16:59] <flocculant> well
[17:00] <flocculant> personally I see no reason to see fix released/invalid or anything written in chinese :p
[17:01] <flocculant> mmm - sorting is a bit odd - you would expect the one numerical thing to be sortable :D
[17:02] <balloons> feel free to make a big list of changes and tweaks as always :-)
[17:02] <flocculant> yup :)
[17:02] <balloons> but everything requested is out there, so it's easy to start designing again
[17:02] <flocculant> yea for sure - I'm certainly not complaining :)
[17:04] <flocculant> balloons: 2 bug reports turned up for testcases - which are really requests to stop gwibber and empathy being on the ubuntu desktop package tests I would think - not got admin there - guess you have
[17:04] <balloons> flocculant, ahh yea, a student noticed and I asked him to file
[17:05] <balloons> what do you think? Makes sense to stick with defaults, but should we also retire the old cases too?
[17:05] <flocculant> ok - I commented and marked them both
[17:05] <balloons> it kind of says we don't care if it's not default I guess.. Not sure if that's the vibe
[17:06] <balloons> I mean, obviously we still care about every package in the archive, we just focus on specific ones
[17:06] <flocculant> balloons: if ubuntu doesn't actually use either now then I would say they shouldn't be on there
[17:07] <flocculant> xubuntu disables things - but then I'm more wanting to get things we DO use tested
[17:07] <flocculant> balloons: not sure it says 'we don't care' more 'we care more about things we seed'
[17:08] <flocculant> balloons: otherwise there are perhaps ~40k testcases missing :D
[17:08] <balloons> :-) Ok, just wanted to make sure it wasn't seen as negative
[17:08] <flocculant> I don't think so
[17:09] <flocculant> the testcase is there - in future it's easy to switch it on again :)
[17:46] <wxl> balloons: what were the changes again?
[17:54] <balloons> bug links, and the bug smmary table on that page I linked
[17:54] <balloons> no more bug icons!
[18:02] <flocculant> and I just realised that he needn't of made fix released gold ... that said we didn't know the table not icon task would get done I suppose
[18:57]  * balloons likes the gold :-)
[19:00] <flocculant> oh nvm me
[19:00] <flocculant> I forgot the icons still show somewhere lol
[19:48] <om26er> balloons, Hey! just a headsup, your email (Ubuntu Font Testing) seems to have a broken link.
[19:48] <balloons> om26er, ahh righto. When they made that wiki page, it has a space in it. It's insane, but I never fixed it either
[19:49] <balloons> perhaps I should just do so
[19:49] <om26er> balloons, hah, that's a crazy url
[20:00] <balloons> flocculant, I think we made it worse with the 'Report an issue with the testcase you are working with'
[20:01] <balloons> err wait.. I'm confused. Both point to the same place?
[20:03] <balloons> flocculant, I say this because of all the new stuff flooding into ubuntu-manual-tests
[20:07] <flocculant> balloons: yea seeing those
[20:08] <balloons> flocculant, but both bug reporting links point to ubuntu-manual-tests now. Or am I crazy?
[20:09] <flocculant> not sure - can't find a page with both on now :D
[20:09] <flocculant> ohhh
[20:09] <flocculant> I see
[20:10] <flocculant> we shouldn't have both, we should only have 1
[20:11] <flocculant> balloons: iirc - the task said provide us 2 options, 1 was the link in the frame title, the other option was the written out one above Link to bug reporting instructions
[20:11] <flocculant> we then choose one option - I said frame title I believe
[20:11] <balloons> i like the frame title too, yes
[20:12] <flocculant> that's much more 'THIS testcase bug' imo
[20:12] <balloons> This one looks a little better I guess: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109868/testcases/1437/results
[20:12] <balloons> Well, I mean, confusing, hah. But many are missing the actual bug reporting info
[20:12] <balloons> so you only see like this: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/109866/testcases/1301/results
[20:14] <balloons> I was confused by the two MP's, but I guess I get it now. We merged both options and got both options
[20:14] <balloons> So we'll rollback the option we don't like, and then get on the flavors to put in proper bug info
[20:14] <flocculant> http://ibin.co/2SRjTdMaQuUl
[20:14] <flocculant> is what I expected
[20:14] <balloons> yes, same
[20:14] <flocculant> cool
[20:14] <balloons> so you have a big list by now?
[20:14] <balloons> might be helpful to have it in one place..
[20:14] <flocculant> and yea - xubuntu has bug reporting instructions set
[20:15]  * balloons is going nuts
[20:15] <flocculant> balloons: not even started list ...
[20:15] <wxl> aw jeez is this stuff missing from the testcases?
[20:16] <flocculant> wxl: nothing is missing :)
[20:16]  * wxl stops hyperventilating
[20:16] <flocculant> balloons: http://pad.ubuntu.com/trackerfixes
[20:17] <flocculant> well
[20:17] <flocculant> something is missing - but it's replaced with something else
[20:18] <flocculant> the ridiculous mouseover bug icons to see if you can find what you're seeing is replaced by a list of bugs
[20:22] <balloons> yes
[20:28] <flocculant> balloons: added the couple of things we've talked about today to that list - tomorrow I'll trawl the website bug list make sure that released is up to date for those, grab anything missing from list and then do new bug for new things. Make sense to you?
[20:34] <balloons> flocculant, that would be wonderful, than kyou
[20:35] <flocculant> :)