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Kitlith | So... I'm looking into porting Ubuntu touch, and I'm wondering if it is any 'easier' if cyanogenmod is available for the device. | 03:33 |
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Kitlith | I would think so, at least for the android specific parts, but it doesn't help with the rest, right? | 03:34 |
sangram1992 | i have installed ubuntu14.4.3.lts | 05:09 |
sangram1992 | bt after shutdown of laptop screen flickrs | 05:10 |
sangram1992 | help | 05:11 |
sangram1992 | kindly asist | 05:11 |
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duflu | To be fair alesage is probably sleeping right now | 05:22 |
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morphis | ogra_: ping | 06:33 |
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nhaines | Who wants to help me get Firefox running on my Nexus 7! It's running rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd | 08:15 |
nhaines | Don't everyone trip over themselves at once. | 08:16 |
yahn | nhaines, what do you need help with? | 08:17 |
nhaines | yahn: when I make the system writeable and then apt install firefox, it can't find the display. It looks like xmir's installed. Basically I need to know if there's any other bootstrapping needed. | 08:18 |
nhaines | Because every post I see says "Wasn't even any bootstrapping needed!" | 08:18 |
yahn | nhaines: Way over my head unfortunately. Good luck though :) | 08:19 |
nhaines | Thanks! :) | 08:20 |
nhaines | The good news is that Bluetooth works now. *Way* more usable when I don't have to borrow my PC's keyboard and mouse. :) | 08:20 |
yahn | Is that due to the newer BlueZ? | 08:21 |
nhaines | yahn: I'm not sure. It worked for OTA-6, and broke with either OTA-7 or -8. I never got around to bisecting the diffs. | 08:35 |
robin-hero | with OTA-9 there will be a new bluetooth stack (BlueZ5) | 08:42 |
yahn | I wasn't sure if BlueZ5 had already landed | 08:42 |
yahn | it'll be nice to finally be able to use Bluetooth Low Energy devices | 08:45 |
mcphail | nhaines: I've just started looking at xmir. Not sure of the exact process but think you have to call Xmir with a DISPLAY number, then export the $DISPLAY variable before calling the X-client app. I need to wait until I can safely break my phone before trying it, though | 09:06 |
mcphail | nhaines: perhaps try "export DISPLAY=:99 ; Xmir $DISPLAY && firefox --display=$DISPLAY" ? | 09:11 |
* mcphail is guessing | 09:11 | |
mcphail | or rather "export DISPLAY=:99 ; Xmir $DISPLAY & ; firefox --display=$DISPLAY" ? | 09:12 |
bkchr | Hi, I'm searching for informations about building ubuntu touch for arm64. I found the wiki page about the future of the android container. Are more informations available and maybe already something to work with? I would like to try to port Ubuntu touch to the Nexus 6p | 09:37 |
JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Golden Gate Bridge Day! 😃 | 09:39 |
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nhaines | mcphail: close, but no cigar. :) | 11:17 |
mcphail | nhaines: aargh | 11:18 |
nhaines | The first gives "Fatal server error: (EE) Failed t oconnect to Mir: Failed to send message to server: Broken pipe" and the second gives "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'" | 11:18 |
nhaines | But Xmir is crashing. | 11:18 |
mcphail | hmm | 11:18 |
nhaines | mcphail: out of time to play with it now. But I'll squint at Xmir options later, I think. Thanks! :) | 11:20 |
mcphail | nhaines: there was a demo of someone running MATE and various apps on the phone on G+ recently. popey gave me a link to a "HOWTO" of sorts. I'll see if I can dig it out later | 11:24 |
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donkey_12 | nhaines, Xmir :0 -sw -flatten -rootless --desktop_file_hint=firefox ? | 13:07 |
donkey_12 | Xmir --help | 13:08 |
donkey_12 | and maybe add X-Ubuntu-Touch=true to firefox.desktop | 13:10 |
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V99_ | hi! i install a package over apt-get, to do this i will to make readwrite my FS and i read in internet that i lose the OTA updates | 13:42 |
V99_ | but my question is, i will have updates over apt-get? | 13:42 |
beuno | V99_, you will not | 13:43 |
V99_ | or definitibely i lost the updates and i have to reflash the phone? | 13:43 |
V99_ | ooooooooooops | 13:43 |
V99_ | :( | 13:43 |
beuno | yes, reflash to update | 13:43 |
V99_ | and there is nbo other method to update? | 13:43 |
V99_ | i want readwrite system | 13:43 |
beuno | V99_, no, you either have a transactional, binary-based update mechanism your you update individual packages | 13:44 |
V99_ | ok beuno thanks for all | 13:45 |
V99_ | i will go to reflash | 13:45 |
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mterry | oSoMoN, heyo! Does webbrowser-app launch for you in xenial? I get "module "Ubuntu.Thumbnailer" is not installed" | 14:49 |
oSoMoN | mterry, would you mind filing a bug? I don’t have a xenial setup handy, but I’ll set up a VM and look into it | 14:51 |
mterry | oSoMoN, ok | 14:51 |
mterry | oSoMoN, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1531179 | 14:52 |
ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1531179 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "[desktop] Crashes on startup in xenial: module "Ubuntu.Thumbnailer" is not installed" [Undecided,New] | 14:52 |
oSoMoN | mterry, thanks | 14:53 |
mterry | oSoMoN, ah, just missing a dependency on qml-module-ubuntu-thumbnailer0.1 | 14:54 |
oSoMoN | huh, that’s an ugly one, this module is in universe, we can’t declare a runtime dependency on it | 14:55 |
oSoMoN | will have to make its use conditional | 14:56 |
oSoMoN | although it looks like the import is unused | 14:57 |
oSoMoN | mterry, would you mind testing something for me? Can you edit /usr/share/webbrowser-app/webbrowser/DownloadsPage.qml, simply comment out the import of Ubuntu.Thumbnailer, and see if that fixes the issue? | 14:57 |
mterry | oSoMoN, ok | 14:58 |
Elleo | oSoMoN: urgh, sorry, that's my fault :/ it is used though, it's just not obvious; importing Ubuntu.Thumbnailer is required for the image://thumbnailer/ image provider | 15:00 |
mterry | oSoMoN, still runs. I don't see any new errors in the console | 15:00 |
Elleo | oSoMoN: we might just have to get rid of thumbnailer usage for now | 15:00 |
Elleo | oSoMoN: and it'll fallback to mimetype images | 15:00 |
mterry | (I uninstalled thumbnailer module too just in case) | 15:00 |
Elleo | its getting pretty silly how much of our "platform" isn't in main though :/ | 15:00 |
mterry | Elleo, oSoMoN: you can file a MIR for the thumbnailer... | 15:01 |
oSoMoN | Elleo, agreed, that’s a real pain in the neck | 15:01 |
oSoMoN | Elleo, can we add some runtime detection to use image://thumbnailer only if Ubuntu.Thumbnailer can be imported (and not fail otherwise) | 15:02 |
oSoMoN | ? | 15:02 |
Elleo | oSoMoN: possibly, I'm not sure how image providers work if loaded from a Loader or similar, if they get imported properly that way it might be doable | 15:02 |
Elleo | oSoMoN: I'll do a quick test and see what I can find out | 15:03 |
oSoMoN | Elleo, excellent, thanks | 15:03 |
mterry | morphis, OK was this "repo sync -j4" thing a practical joke? :) I have no hard drive space left anymore :) | 15:24 |
mterry | And I haven't even built it | 15:24 |
morphis | mterry: it needs quite a lot space, yet :-) | 15:24 |
oSoMoN | anyone knows about the lint_control_architecture_valid_contents check when publishing a click package? I’m trying to publish an update to an app of mine to the store, it’s a pure QML app, and it gets rejected because there are mo files under share/locale/… | 15:32 |
oSoMoN | found binaries for architecture 'all': share/locale/ug/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo lint_control_architecture_valid_contents | 15:32 |
oSoMoN | it looks to me like the check is too strict, mo files should be allowed, or what? | 15:33 |
oSoMoN | afaict mo files are not architecture dependent | 15:33 |
mterry | oSoMoN, I believe you are right... | 15:35 |
oSoMoN | known issue apparently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1530894 | 15:37 |
ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1530894 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools ".mo files don't seem to be allowed in packages of arch 'all'" [Undecided,New] | 15:37 |
peat-psuwit | Can I get a shell from Android lxc container? | 15:40 |
mariogrip | peat-psuwit: do you mean like: lxc-console -nandroid -t0 | 15:42 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: That works! Thank you. | 15:42 |
mariogrip | :) | 15:42 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: BTW, I heard that you're running UBPorts project. I ports Ubuntu Touch to LG L90 and am interested to have my port in your project. | 15:44 |
mariogrip | peat-psuwit: That awesome! you are welcome to join! | 15:46 |
mariogrip | peat-psuwit: do you have a system-image server for your device? | 15:47 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: I don't have one. I distribute device tarball on xda-developer forum. | 15:48 |
mariogrip | peat-psuwit: I can setup one on ubports server if you want | 15:49 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: That would be great. | 15:50 |
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peat-psuwit | mariogrip: I still build my device tarball manually. There're a few bits I have to add in tarball manually to have it appear in Ubuntu rootfs. | 15:54 |
mariogrip | Yeah, i can set it up so you can just upload the manually build device tarball. is sftp to upload ok? | 15:57 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: I think that | 15:58 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: that's fine | 15:58 |
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mariogrip | peat-psuwit: w7 is the device name right? | 16:05 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: Yes. | 16:06 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: In fact, there are many variant of this device having different codename. But I use CM's device tree which is unified tree and use this codename. | 16:07 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: I guess user running ubuntu-device-flash for the first time will need to specify --device | 16:08 |
mariogrip | yeah, but if --device is not specified it tries to find it using adb | 16:09 |
peat-psuwit | mariogrip: It'll get detailed device name, which is likely not "w7". | 16:13 |
mariogrip | yeah, then you need to use --device | 16:13 |
mariogrip | on install | 16:13 |
mariogrip | peat-psuwit: http://system-image.ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/w7/ | 16:20 |
mterry | ondra, do you know how to build just a portion of the aosp? Specifically, I'm interested in just the recovery bits | 16:53 |
ondra | mterry depends in which tree you are | 16:53 |
ondra | mterry I added support for build of recovery and repacking recovery without dependencies to phablet tree | 16:54 |
ondra | mterry just run $ make recoveryimage | 16:54 |
mterry | ondra, I *think* I want to be eventually proposing agains CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery phablet-4.4.2_r1? | 16:54 |
mterry | ondra, oh good, will try that make command | 16:54 |
ondra | mterry mind recovery build is a bit hack on it's own, so it's not 100% guarantee. It basically copies over Android's boot image ramdisk and then hacks it around | 16:55 |
mterry | ondra, ok will try and see if it works :) thanks! | 17:04 |
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farad | has anybody listening here an Aquaris E4.5 with Ubuntu 15.04 and a working GPS? | 20:12 |
farad | I am trying to find out whether I have a software or a hardware problem | 20:12 |
farad | I cannot obtain any position information with it | 20:14 |
pmcgowan | farad, yes it works here, which channel did you install? | 20:14 |
pmcgowan | you definitely want to have the Here AGPS stuff turned on | 20:15 |
farad | sorry I do not know what you mean with channel | 20:15 |
mterry | morphis, me again... I get "unsupported HOST_ARCH=x86_64" when trying to build the aosp, which.. fair enough. I tried building in my armhf lxc instance, and it gave same message -- I need to use lunch to run the build off of... what? a phone? | 20:15 |
farad | I accepted the HERE License yes | 20:15 |
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pmcgowan | farad, you will need a network conection to initialize it, and it will get lock etter with wifi on if it sees known APs | 20:17 |
pmcgowan | otherwise it needs a clear view for gps and can take several mins | 20:18 |
farad | I tested the GPS outside, walking about an hour through the open fields and still no GPS | 20:18 |
farad | and I had mobile data switched on | 20:19 |
farad | so network connection should have been working | 20:19 |
pmcgowan | hmm | 20:21 |
pmcgowan | indeed | 20:21 |
pmcgowan | farad, what version are you running | 20:21 |
farad | my build is called "Ubuntu 15.04 - armhf (20151210-005527) | 20:21 |
pmcgowan | ok | 20:22 |
pmcgowan | farad, are you using a certain application to test it? I will try t here | 20:22 |
farad | I tried different applications: SensorStatus, OSMTouch and uNav | 20:23 |
farad | about a week ago, I got positioned while driving in a car, but the precision (according to "SensorStatus") was about 2500m, so this cannot really be GPS positioning | 20:24 |
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pmcgowan | yeah sounds like geoip maybe | 20:25 |
pmcgowan | working here but I think it may have cached my location | 20:25 |
pmcgowan | sensorstaus sees a good lat/long | 20:26 |
farad | I am used to receivers that capture the position after about half a minute and with precision usually about 10m | 20:26 |
farad | so that was what I was initially expecting | 20:27 |
pmcgowan | you should get that | 20:27 |
pmcgowan | there are other users complaining though | 20:27 |
pmcgowan | Bugs are at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service | 20:28 |
pmcgowan | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/location-service#Forensics for debug info | 20:28 |
farad | OK, I will go into that | 20:29 |
pmcgowan | farad, there is a thread at https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg17499.html | 20:29 |
pmcgowan | thaks | 20:29 |
pmcgowan | thanks even | 20:29 |
farad | and I never got a vertical position, which is another indicator for no GPS but GeoIP | 20:30 |
pmcgowan | yep although vertical is not so good | 20:30 |
farad | yes, I know, but no value at all is not a good sign | 20:30 |
farad | thank you for the links | 20:30 |
farad | I will take my time to read these pages | 20:31 |
|MaTT|DaMoN|187 | hey hey, anyone able to help me with putting android back onto my nexus 5 from installing plasma mobile? | 20:39 |
mterry | ondra, hrm. Now I'm confused regarding aosp. build/core/envsetup.sh only allows amd64 (x86_64). But art/runtime/Android.mk only allows i386 (x86) | 20:42 |
mterry | ondra, how do I build this? :) | 20:42 |
mterry | (for HOST_ARCH) | 20:43 |
tvoss | farad, you still around? | 20:45 |
farad | yes, still here | 20:45 |
tvoss | farad, cool, so for your gps issue: are you happy to enable developer mode on your device? | 20:46 |
farad | already done ;-) | 20:46 |
dobey | |MaTT|DaMoN|187: this isn't the right channel for that, but just grab the stuff from google and follow their instructions. | 20:46 |
tvoss | farad, great, so I would need some debugging data from your device | 20:47 |
farad | if I can help with this, that would be great! | 20:48 |
farad | I have not finished the location-service debugging article, but if you can just tell me where to look for it | 20:49 |
farad | all info from the forensics section? | 20:50 |
tvoss | farad, yup, that would be helpful | 20:50 |
farad | OK, I am working on that | 20:50 |
tvoss | farad, so to make sure I understand the scenario: you have a sim installed in your device and an active data connection? | 20:51 |
farad | yes, but now I am inside and most likely cannot get GPS signals | 20:52 |
tvoss | farad, sure, do you have a window nearby, though? | 20:52 |
farad | yes | 20:52 |
tvoss | okay, so there are two other things I would need: in a shell on the device (get one with phablet-shell), could you please run sudo ls -lh /data/misc | 20:54 |
farad | adb shell is OK as well? | 20:54 |
tvoss | farad, sure | 20:54 |
farad | easier to copy to the chat | 20:54 |
tvoss | farad, sure, pastebin is helpful, too | 20:55 |
farad | OK, I should not paste it here, right? | 20:56 |
dobey | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com | 20:56 |
farad | http://pastebin.com/F1AssVJg | 20:57 |
farad | OK, I will use the ubuntu pastebin the next time | 20:57 |
dobey | anyone is fine really | 20:57 |
dobey | just use a pastebin, don't paste stuff into channels unless it's a single line :) | 20:58 |
farad | OK, got that | 21:00 |
tvoss | farad, thanks | 21:01 |
tvoss | farad, so the other really interesting bit would be the output of running sudo GLOG_logtostderr=1 GLOG_v=10 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test | 21:02 |
tvoss | farad, erm: sudo GLOG_logtostderr=1 GLOG_v=100 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test | 21:02 |
farad | hmm, I just figured out, that at the moment I still had GPS disabled and tried to switch it back on, but the UI is not reacting | 21:05 |
tvoss | farad, is that in system settings? | 21:06 |
farad | only the switches for the positioning and the gps, everything else is working | 21:06 |
farad | in the dropdown menu | 21:06 |
tvoss | pmcgowan, didn't we remove the gps switch from the indicator with ota 8 or ota 8.5? | 21:07 |
farad | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14414122/ | 21:08 |
farad | that is the output, but without GPS enabled | 21:09 |
pmcgowan | tvoss, removed for 9, its in 8.5 | 21:09 |
tvoss | farad, the test always enables the gps no matter what | 21:09 |
tvoss | farad, it also shuts down the location service instance, so better to reboot after we are done with the testing | 21:09 |
farad | OK great, then this is fine | 21:09 |
tvoss | farad, so the test is still running, and you will see some log messages coming in as it progresses | 21:10 |
tvoss | did you start it with GTEST_v=100? | 21:10 |
farad | yes, but you are right, it has not terminated yet | 21:10 |
farad | but no other messages so far | 21:11 |
farad | we need sattelite contact now right? | 21:11 |
farad | so I have to run this command outside? | 21:12 |
tvoss | well, ideally close to a window | 21:12 |
tvoss | I usually ssh into the device to be able to place it close to a window | 21:12 |
farad | how long will it take? 100 seconds? | 21:13 |
tvoss | farad, it depends, more like a 180 - 300 seconds | 21:14 |
farad | hmm, close to window does not seem to be enough | 21:15 |
farad | looks like I have to take the phone for a small walk | 21:16 |
tvoss | farad, placing it outside usually is good enough | 21:17 |
farad | do I have to restart the phone before restarting that command? | 21:18 |
tvoss | nope | 21:19 |
tvoss | farad, you could abort the test and restart with GLOG_v=1000 for crazy level of log detail :) | 21:19 |
farad | if you are ready for parsing that, then I will do | 21:21 |
tvoss | farad, yup, I am :) | 21:21 |
tvoss | farad, and it gives a nice indication of what is going on | 21:21 |
farad | ah, NMEA output, I was looking for that for the last week :-) | 21:23 |
tvoss | farad, :) | 21:28 |
tvoss | farad, it's not what typical users are interested in :) you should just have said: give me nmea | 21:29 |
farad | well, I am not particularly interested in the NMEA output, but I was looking for exactly that output to debug this case | 21:33 |
tvoss | farad, ack | 21:33 |
farad | OK, I think something is finally going on there | 21:35 |
farad | but now I have to run the command again, and store the output somewhere so that I can transfer it | 21:37 |
farad | is it difficult to set up ssh? | 21:38 |
tvoss | farad, not really, it should be setup already | 21:39 |
farad | I think I will just pipe the output to a file and transfer it to the computer manually | 21:42 |
tvoss | farad, that's fine, too | 21:44 |
tvoss | farad, please make sure that you run sudo powerd-cli active to make sure that the device does not go to deep sleep | 21:44 |
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tvoss | farad, so I just ran the test with result: Mean time to first fix in [ms]: 59727 | 21:52 |
farad | yes, I got something like that | 21:53 |
farad | I restarted the command about two minutes ago with your given powerd setting | 21:54 |
popey | mariogrip, hey, have you seen upstart using a lot of cpu on the oneplus? | 21:58 |
mariogrip | popey: no, i haven't noticed. I will note it down on my todo list, thanks for telling me | 22:01 |
tvoss | farad, so the good news is: your gps is working | 22:12 |
tvoss | farad, ~60 seconds is quite good, that's without agps | 22:12 |
popey | This is really impressive mariogrip. loving what you've done with the OPO. works really well | 22:36 |
mariogrip | Thanks popey! | 22:38 |
* genii hands out tasty cookies all around | 22:39 | |
* mariogrip loves cookies!! | 22:39 | |
genii | :D | 22:40 |
mcphail | mariogrip: don't think the OPO is on the !devices list. Would you like to add it? | 22:45 |
mariogrip | mcphail: Device list? this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 22:47 |
mcphail | mariogrip: yes - didn't see it listed there. Would be nice to have another non-Nexus phone listed :) | 22:48 |
mariogrip | Yeah, will add it :) | 22:48 |
mcphail | Nice :) | 22:48 |
rww | heh, the board name for OPO is bacon? jono must like that :p | 22:57 |
popey | :) | 22:58 |
popey | It's nice to be able to have 10 apps open and non of them get OOMKilled | 22:58 |
popey | mariogrip, I note the OPX has a similar setup (snapdragon 801) as the OPO - does that mean it should be "easy" to port? | 22:59 |
mariogrip | "hopefully" JUP! :D | 23:00 |
mariogrip | now with the new ubp-5.1.1 branch i have 3 new device cooking up :) | 23:00 |
popey | niiiiiice | 23:01 |
* popey hugs mariogrip | 23:01 | |
* mariogrip huges back :P | 23:01 | |
mariogrip | the ubp-5.1.1 on the oneplus one seems to be even more "snappy" | 23:02 |
mariogrip | aka smooth | 23:02 |
popey | \o/ | 23:03 |
mariogrip | How do i become a Ubuntu member? | 23:10 |
genii | !member | 23:10 |
ubot5` | Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 23:10 |
Aylinizm | hi all | 23:24 |
Aylinizm | i have samsung grand prime cell phone | 23:25 |
Aylinizm | i want to install ubuntu touch to this phone | 23:25 |
Aylinizm | is there any images which is suitable for this device ? | 23:25 |
mcphail | !devices | Aylinizm | 23:31 |
ubot5` | Aylinizm: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 23:31 |
mcphail | mariogrip: having made a port, how much of the process do you think could be automated or scripted, and applied generically across devices with, say, a cyanogenmod tree? | 23:32 |
Aylinizm | !devices | 23:35 |
ubot5` | You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 23:35 |
mariogrip | the ubp-5.1.1 is based on CM btw, and I would say that it's not that hard, I am acutely making a "semi automated" script that puts everything together using the Cyanogenmods "cm.dependencies" file and also sets all the propper settings for ubuntu. | 23:36 |
mariogrip | actually* | 23:37 |
Aylinizm | oh thanks. greate news for me | 23:37 |
Aylinizm | i just like to use ubuntu. | 23:38 |
mcphail | mariogrip: that sounds like a great idea. If Ubuntu is going to have a future on devices, it needs to be easier for numpties like me to make a port ;) | 23:38 |
Aylinizm | lol. yea | 23:38 |
* mcphail longs for a day when Ubuntu will run on any device with an upstream cyanogenmod port | 23:39 | |
mariogrip | if we get libhybris (and other parts) to work "100%" with CM, I think that might be possible for many CM devices | 23:42 |
mcphail | That is an exciting prospect | 23:43 |
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