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KitlithSo... I'm looking into porting Ubuntu touch, and I'm wondering if it is any 'easier' if cyanogenmod is available for the device.03:33
KitlithI would think so, at least for the android specific parts, but it doesn't help with the rest, right?03:34
sangram1992i have installed ubuntu14.4.3.lts05:09
sangram1992bt after shutdown of laptop screen flickrs05:10
sangram1992help05:11
sangram1992kindly asist05:11
* sangram1992 slaps alesage around a bit with a large fishbot05:11
dufluTo be fair alesage is probably sleeping right now05:22
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morphisogra_: ping06:33
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nhainesWho wants to help me get Firefox running on my Nexus 7!  It's running rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd08:15
nhainesDon't everyone trip over themselves at once.08:16
yahnnhaines, what do you need help with?08:17
nhainesyahn: when I make the system writeable and then apt install firefox, it can't find the display.  It looks like xmir's installed.  Basically I need to know if there's any other bootstrapping needed.08:18
nhainesBecause every post I see says "Wasn't even any bootstrapping needed!"08:18
yahnnhaines: Way over my head unfortunately. Good luck though :)08:19
nhainesThanks!  :)08:20
nhainesThe good news is that Bluetooth works now.  *Way* more usable when I don't have to borrow my PC's keyboard and mouse.  :)08:20
yahnIs that due to the newer BlueZ?08:21
nhainesyahn: I'm not sure.  It worked for OTA-6, and broke with either OTA-7 or -8.  I never got around to bisecting the diffs.08:35
robin-herowith OTA-9 there will be a new bluetooth stack (BlueZ5)08:42
yahnI wasn't sure if BlueZ5 had already landed08:42
yahnit'll be nice to finally be able to use Bluetooth Low Energy devices08:45
mcphailnhaines: I've just started looking at xmir. Not sure of the exact process but think you have to call Xmir with a DISPLAY number, then export the $DISPLAY variable before calling the X-client app. I need to wait until I can safely break my phone before trying it, though09:06
mcphailnhaines: perhaps try "export DISPLAY=:99 ; Xmir $DISPLAY && firefox --display=$DISPLAY" ?09:11
* mcphail is guessing09:11
mcphailor rather "export DISPLAY=:99 ; Xmir $DISPLAY & ; firefox --display=$DISPLAY" ?09:12
bkchrHi, I'm searching for informations about building ubuntu touch for arm64. I found the wiki page about the future of the android container. Are more informations available and maybe already something to work with? I would like to try to port Ubuntu touch to the Nexus 6p09:37
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Golden Gate Bridge Day! 😃09:39
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nhainesmcphail: close, but no cigar.  :)11:17
mcphailnhaines: aargh11:18
nhainesThe first gives "Fatal server error: (EE) Failed t oconnect to Mir: Failed to send message to server: Broken pipe" and the second gives "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'"11:18
nhainesBut Xmir is crashing.11:18
mcphailhmm11:18
nhainesmcphail: out of time to play with it now.  But I'll squint at Xmir options later, I think.  Thanks!  :)11:20
mcphailnhaines: there was a demo of someone running MATE and various apps on the phone on G+ recently. popey gave me a link to a "HOWTO" of sorts. I'll see if I can dig it out later11:24
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donkey_12nhaines, Xmir :0 -sw -flatten -rootless --desktop_file_hint=firefox ?13:07
donkey_12Xmir --help13:08
donkey_12and maybe add X-Ubuntu-Touch=true to firefox.desktop13:10
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V99_hi! i install a package over apt-get, to do this i will to make readwrite my FS and i read in internet that i lose the OTA updates13:42
V99_but my question is, i will have updates over apt-get?13:42
beunoV99_, you will not13:43
V99_or definitibely i lost the updates and i have to reflash the phone?13:43
V99_ooooooooooops13:43
V99_:(13:43
beunoyes, reflash to update13:43
V99_and there is nbo other method to update?13:43
V99_i want readwrite system13:43
beunoV99_, no, you either have a transactional, binary-based update mechanism your you update individual packages13:44
V99_ok beuno thanks for all13:45
V99_i will go to reflash13:45
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mterryoSoMoN, heyo!  Does webbrowser-app launch for you in xenial?  I get "module "Ubuntu.Thumbnailer" is not installed"14:49
oSoMoNmterry, would you mind filing a bug? I don’t have a xenial setup handy, but I’ll set up a VM and look into it14:51
mterryoSoMoN, ok14:51
mterryoSoMoN, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/153117914:52
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1531179 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "[desktop] Crashes on startup in xenial: module "Ubuntu.Thumbnailer" is not installed" [Undecided,New]14:52
oSoMoNmterry, thanks14:53
mterryoSoMoN, ah, just missing a dependency on qml-module-ubuntu-thumbnailer0.114:54
oSoMoNhuh, that’s an ugly one, this module is in universe, we can’t declare a runtime dependency on it14:55
oSoMoNwill have to make its use conditional14:56
oSoMoNalthough it looks like the import is unused14:57
oSoMoNmterry, would you mind testing something for me? Can you edit /usr/share/webbrowser-app/webbrowser/DownloadsPage.qml, simply comment out the import of Ubuntu.Thumbnailer, and see if that fixes the issue?14:57
mterryoSoMoN, ok14:58
ElleooSoMoN: urgh, sorry, that's my fault :/ it is used though, it's just not obvious; importing Ubuntu.Thumbnailer is required for the image://thumbnailer/ image provider15:00
mterryoSoMoN, still runs.  I don't see any new errors in the console15:00
ElleooSoMoN: we might just have to get rid of thumbnailer usage for now15:00
ElleooSoMoN: and it'll fallback to mimetype images15:00
mterry(I uninstalled thumbnailer module too just in case)15:00
Elleoits getting pretty silly how much of our "platform" isn't in main though :/15:00
mterryElleo, oSoMoN: you can file a MIR for the thumbnailer...15:01
oSoMoNElleo, agreed, that’s a real pain in the neck15:01
oSoMoNElleo, can we add some runtime detection to use image://thumbnailer only if Ubuntu.Thumbnailer can be imported (and not fail otherwise)15:02
oSoMoN?15:02
ElleooSoMoN: possibly, I'm not sure how image providers work if loaded from a Loader or similar, if they get imported properly that way it might be doable15:02
ElleooSoMoN: I'll do a quick test and see what I can find out15:03
oSoMoNElleo, excellent, thanks15:03
mterrymorphis, OK was this "repo sync -j4" thing a practical joke?  :)   I have no hard drive space left anymore  :)15:24
mterryAnd I haven't even built it15:24
morphismterry: it needs quite a lot space, yet :-)15:24
oSoMoNanyone knows about the lint_control_architecture_valid_contents check when publishing a click package? I’m trying to publish an update to an app of mine to the store, it’s a pure QML app, and it gets rejected because there are mo files under share/locale/…15:32
oSoMoNfound binaries for architecture 'all': share/locale/ug/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo lint_control_architecture_valid_contents15:32
oSoMoNit looks to me like the check is too strict, mo files should be allowed, or what?15:33
oSoMoNafaict mo files are not architecture dependent15:33
mterryoSoMoN, I believe you are right...15:35
oSoMoNknown issue apparently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/153089415:37
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1530894 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools ".mo files don't seem to be allowed in packages of arch 'all'" [Undecided,New]15:37
peat-psuwitCan I get a shell from Android lxc container?15:40
mariogrippeat-psuwit: do you mean like: lxc-console -nandroid -t015:42
peat-psuwitmariogrip: That works! Thank you.15:42
mariogrip:)15:42
peat-psuwitmariogrip: BTW, I heard that you're running UBPorts project. I ports Ubuntu Touch to LG L90 and am interested to have my port in your project.15:44
mariogrippeat-psuwit: That awesome! you are welcome to join!15:46
mariogrippeat-psuwit: do you have a system-image server for your device?15:47
peat-psuwitmariogrip: I don't have one. I distribute device tarball on xda-developer forum.15:48
mariogrippeat-psuwit: I can setup one on ubports server if you want15:49
peat-psuwitmariogrip: That would be great.15:50
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peat-psuwitmariogrip: I still build my device tarball manually. There're a few bits I have to add in tarball manually to have it appear in Ubuntu rootfs.15:54
mariogripYeah, i can set it up so you can just upload the manually build device tarball. is sftp to upload ok?15:57
peat-psuwitmariogrip: I think that15:58
peat-psuwitmariogrip: that's fine15:58
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mariogrippeat-psuwit: w7 is the device name right?16:05
peat-psuwitmariogrip: Yes.16:06
peat-psuwitmariogrip: In fact, there are many variant of this device having different codename. But I use CM's device tree which is unified tree and use this codename.16:07
peat-psuwitmariogrip: I guess user running ubuntu-device-flash for the first time will need to specify --device16:08
mariogripyeah, but if --device is not specified it tries to find it using adb16:09
peat-psuwitmariogrip: It'll get detailed device name, which is likely not "w7".16:13
mariogripyeah, then you need to use --device16:13
mariogripon install16:13
mariogrippeat-psuwit: http://system-image.ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/w7/16:20
mterryondra, do you know how to build just a portion of the aosp?  Specifically, I'm interested in just the recovery bits16:53
ondramterry depends in which tree you are16:53
ondramterry I added support for build of recovery and repacking recovery without dependencies to phablet tree16:54
ondramterry just run $ make recoveryimage16:54
mterryondra, I *think* I want to be eventually proposing agains CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery phablet-4.4.2_r1?16:54
mterryondra, oh good, will try that make command16:54
ondramterry mind recovery build is a bit hack on it's own, so it's not 100% guarantee. It basically copies over Android's boot image ramdisk and then hacks it around16:55
mterryondra, ok will try and see if it works  :)  thanks!17:04
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faradhas anybody listening here an Aquaris E4.5 with Ubuntu 15.04 and a working GPS?20:12
faradI am trying to find out whether I have a software or a hardware problem20:12
faradI cannot obtain any position information with it20:14
pmcgowanfarad, yes it works here, which channel did you install?20:14
pmcgowanyou definitely want to have the Here AGPS stuff turned on20:15
faradsorry I do not know what you mean with channel20:15
mterrymorphis, me again...  I get "unsupported HOST_ARCH=x86_64" when trying to build the aosp, which.. fair enough.  I tried building in my armhf lxc instance, and it gave same message -- I need to use lunch to run the build off of... what?  a phone?20:15
faradI accepted the HERE License yes20:15
* mterry figures out how to run lunch against his phone20:17
pmcgowanfarad, you will need a network conection to initialize it, and it will get  lock etter with wifi on if it sees known APs20:17
pmcgowanotherwise it needs a clear view for gps and can take several mins20:18
faradI tested the GPS outside, walking about an hour through the open fields and still no GPS20:18
faradand I had mobile data switched on20:19
faradso network connection should have been working20:19
pmcgowanhmm20:21
pmcgowanindeed20:21
pmcgowanfarad, what version are you running20:21
faradmy build is called "Ubuntu 15.04 - armhf (20151210-005527)20:21
pmcgowanok20:22
pmcgowanfarad, are you using a certain application to test it? I will try t here20:22
faradI tried different applications: SensorStatus, OSMTouch and uNav20:23
faradabout a week ago, I got positioned while driving in a car, but the precision (according to "SensorStatus") was about 2500m, so this cannot really be GPS positioning20:24
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pmcgowanyeah sounds like geoip maybe20:25
pmcgowanworking here but I think it may have cached my location20:25
pmcgowansensorstaus sees a good lat/long20:26
faradI am used to receivers that capture the position after about half a minute and with precision usually about 10m20:26
faradso that was what I was initially expecting20:27
pmcgowanyou should get that20:27
pmcgowanthere are other users complaining though20:27
pmcgowanBugs are at  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service20:28
pmcgowanhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/location-service#Forensics for debug info20:28
faradOK, I will go into that20:29
pmcgowanfarad, there is a thread at https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg17499.html20:29
pmcgowanthaks20:29
pmcgowanthanks even20:29
faradand I never got a vertical position, which is another indicator for no GPS but GeoIP20:30
pmcgowanyep although vertical is not so good20:30
faradyes, I know, but no value at all is not a good sign20:30
faradthank you for the links20:30
faradI will take my time to read these pages20:31
|MaTT|DaMoN|187hey hey, anyone able to help me with putting android back onto my nexus 5 from installing plasma mobile?20:39
mterryondra, hrm.  Now I'm confused regarding aosp.  build/core/envsetup.sh only allows amd64 (x86_64).  But art/runtime/Android.mk only allows i386 (x86)20:42
mterryondra, how do I build this?   :)20:42
mterry(for HOST_ARCH)20:43
tvossfarad, you still around?20:45
faradyes, still here20:45
tvossfarad, cool, so for your gps issue: are you happy to enable developer mode on your device?20:46
faradalready done ;-)20:46
dobey|MaTT|DaMoN|187: this isn't the right channel for that, but just grab the stuff from google and follow their instructions.20:46
tvossfarad, great, so I would need some debugging data from your device20:47
faradif I can help with this, that would be great!20:48
faradI have not finished the location-service debugging article, but if you can just tell me where to look for it20:49
faradall info from the forensics section?20:50
tvossfarad, yup, that would be helpful20:50
faradOK, I am working on that20:50
tvossfarad, so to make sure I understand the scenario: you have a sim installed in your device and an active data connection?20:51
faradyes, but now I am inside and most likely cannot get GPS signals20:52
tvossfarad, sure, do you have a window nearby, though?20:52
faradyes20:52
tvossokay, so there are two other things I would need: in a shell on the device (get one with phablet-shell), could you please run sudo ls -lh /data/misc20:54
faradadb shell is OK as well?20:54
tvossfarad, sure20:54
faradeasier to copy to the chat20:54
tvossfarad, sure, pastebin is helpful, too20:55
faradOK, I should not paste it here, right?20:56
dobeyhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com20:56
faradhttp://pastebin.com/F1AssVJg20:57
faradOK, I will use the ubuntu pastebin the next time20:57
dobeyanyone is fine really20:57
dobeyjust use a pastebin, don't paste stuff into channels unless it's a single line :)20:58
faradOK, got that21:00
tvossfarad, thanks21:01
tvossfarad, so the other really interesting bit would be the output of running sudo GLOG_logtostderr=1 GLOG_v=10 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test21:02
tvossfarad, erm: sudo GLOG_logtostderr=1 GLOG_v=100 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test21:02
faradhmm, I just figured out, that at the moment I still had GPS disabled and tried to switch it back on, but the UI is not reacting21:05
tvossfarad, is that in system settings?21:06
faradonly the switches for the positioning and the gps, everything else is working21:06
faradin the dropdown menu21:06
tvosspmcgowan, didn't we remove the gps switch from the indicator with ota 8 or ota 8.5?21:07
faradhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14414122/21:08
faradthat is the output, but without GPS enabled21:09
pmcgowantvoss, removed for 9, its in 8.521:09
tvossfarad, the test always enables the gps no matter what21:09
tvossfarad, it also shuts down the location service instance, so better to reboot after we are done with the testing21:09
faradOK great, then this is fine21:09
tvossfarad, so the test is still running, and you will see some log messages coming in as it progresses21:10
tvossdid you start it with GTEST_v=100?21:10
faradyes, but you are right, it has not terminated yet21:10
faradbut no other messages so far21:11
faradwe need sattelite contact now right?21:11
faradso I have to run this command outside?21:12
tvosswell, ideally close to a window21:12
tvossI usually ssh into the device to be able to place it close to a window21:12
faradhow long will it take? 100 seconds?21:13
tvossfarad, it depends, more like a 180 - 300 seconds21:14
faradhmm, close to window does not seem to be enough21:15
faradlooks like I have to take the phone for a small walk21:16
tvossfarad, placing it outside usually is good enough21:17
faraddo I have to restart the phone before restarting that command?21:18
tvossnope21:19
tvossfarad, you could abort the test and restart with GLOG_v=1000 for crazy level of log detail :)21:19
faradif you are ready for parsing that, then I will do21:21
tvossfarad, yup, I am :)21:21
tvossfarad, and it gives a nice indication of what is going on21:21
faradah, NMEA output, I was looking for that for the last week :-)21:23
tvossfarad, :)21:28
tvossfarad, it's not what typical users are interested in :) you should just have said: give me nmea21:29
faradwell, I am not particularly interested in the NMEA output, but I was looking for exactly that output to debug this case21:33
tvossfarad, ack21:33
faradOK, I think something is finally going on there21:35
faradbut now I have to run the command again, and store the output somewhere so that I can transfer it21:37
faradis it difficult to set up ssh?21:38
tvossfarad, not really, it should be setup already21:39
faradI think I will just pipe the output to a file and transfer it to the computer manually21:42
tvossfarad, that's fine, too21:44
tvossfarad, please make sure that you run sudo powerd-cli active to make sure that the device does not go to deep sleep21:44
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* dobey wonders how hard it would be to have an app that traps/sends specially formed SMS messages21:44
tvossfarad, so I just ran the test with result: Mean time to first fix in [ms]: 5972721:52
faradyes, I got something like that21:53
faradI restarted the command about two minutes ago with your given powerd setting21:54
popeymariogrip, hey, have you seen upstart using a lot of cpu on the oneplus?21:58
mariogrippopey: no, i haven't noticed. I will note it down on my todo list, thanks for telling me22:01
tvossfarad, so the good news is: your gps is working22:12
tvossfarad, ~60 seconds is quite good, that's without agps22:12
popeyThis is really impressive mariogrip. loving what you've done with the OPO. works really well22:36
mariogripThanks popey!22:38
* genii hands out tasty cookies all around22:39
* mariogrip loves cookies!!22:39
genii:D22:40
mcphailmariogrip: don't think the OPO is on the !devices list. Would you like to add it?22:45
mariogripmcphail: Device list? this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices22:47
mcphailmariogrip: yes - didn't see it listed there. Would be nice to have another non-Nexus phone listed :)22:48
mariogripYeah, will add it :)22:48
mcphailNice :)22:48
rwwheh, the board name for OPO is bacon? jono must like that :p22:57
popey:)22:58
popeyIt's nice to be able to have 10 apps open and non of them get OOMKilled22:58
popeymariogrip, I note the OPX has a similar setup (snapdragon 801) as the OPO - does that mean it should be "easy" to port?22:59
mariogrip"hopefully" JUP! :D23:00
mariogripnow with the new ubp-5.1.1 branch i have 3 new device cooking up :)23:00
popeyniiiiiice23:01
* popey hugs mariogrip 23:01
* mariogrip huges back :P23:01
mariogripthe ubp-5.1.1 on the oneplus one seems to be even more "snappy"23:02
mariogripaka smooth23:02
popey\o/23:03
mariogripHow do i become a Ubuntu member?23:10
genii!member23:10
ubot5`Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community.  For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership23:10
Aylinizmhi all23:24
Aylinizmi have samsung grand prime  cell phone23:25
Aylinizmi want to install ubuntu touch to this phone23:25
Aylinizmis there any images which is suitable for this device ?23:25
mcphail!devices | Aylinizm23:31
ubot5`Aylinizm: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices23:31
mcphailmariogrip: having made a port, how much of the process do you think could be automated or scripted, and applied generically across devices with, say, a cyanogenmod tree?23:32
Aylinizm!devices23:35
ubot5`You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices23:35
mariogripthe ubp-5.1.1 is based on CM btw, and I would say that it's not that hard, I am acutely making a "semi automated" script that puts everything together using the Cyanogenmods "cm.dependencies" file and also sets all the propper settings for ubuntu.23:36
mariogripactually*23:37
Aylinizmoh thanks. greate news for me23:37
Aylinizmi just like to use ubuntu.23:38
mcphailmariogrip: that sounds like a great idea. If Ubuntu is going to have a future on devices, it needs to be easier for numpties like me to make a port ;)23:38
Aylinizmlol. yea23:38
* mcphail longs for a day when Ubuntu will run on any device with an upstream cyanogenmod port23:39
mariogripif we get libhybris (and other parts) to work "100%" with CM, I think that might be possible for many CM devices23:42
mcphailThat is an exciting prospect23:43

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