=== KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === KathyReid_ is now known as KathyReid === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [03:33] So... I'm looking into porting Ubuntu touch, and I'm wondering if it is any 'easier' if cyanogenmod is available for the device. [03:34] I would think so, at least for the android specific parts, but it doesn't help with the rest, right? [05:09] i have installed ubuntu14.4.3.lts [05:10] bt after shutdown of laptop screen flickrs [05:11] help [05:11] kindly asist [05:11] * sangram1992 slaps alesage around a bit with a large fishbot [05:22] To be fair alesage is probably sleeping right now === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === Guest62646 is now known as IdleOne [06:33] ogra_: ping === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [08:15] Who wants to help me get Firefox running on my Nexus 7! It's running rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd [08:16] Don't everyone trip over themselves at once. [08:17] nhaines, what do you need help with? [08:18] yahn: when I make the system writeable and then apt install firefox, it can't find the display. It looks like xmir's installed. Basically I need to know if there's any other bootstrapping needed. [08:18] Because every post I see says "Wasn't even any bootstrapping needed!" [08:19] nhaines: Way over my head unfortunately. Good luck though :) [08:20] Thanks! :) [08:20] The good news is that Bluetooth works now. *Way* more usable when I don't have to borrow my PC's keyboard and mouse. :) [08:21] Is that due to the newer BlueZ? [08:35] yahn: I'm not sure. It worked for OTA-6, and broke with either OTA-7 or -8. I never got around to bisecting the diffs. [08:42] with OTA-9 there will be a new bluetooth stack (BlueZ5) [08:42] I wasn't sure if BlueZ5 had already landed [08:45] it'll be nice to finally be able to use Bluetooth Low Energy devices [09:06] nhaines: I've just started looking at xmir. Not sure of the exact process but think you have to call Xmir with a DISPLAY number, then export the $DISPLAY variable before calling the X-client app. I need to wait until I can safely break my phone before trying it, though [09:11] nhaines: perhaps try "export DISPLAY=:99 ; Xmir $DISPLAY && firefox --display=$DISPLAY" ? [09:11] * mcphail is guessing [09:12] or rather "export DISPLAY=:99 ; Xmir $DISPLAY & ; firefox --display=$DISPLAY" ? [09:37] Hi, I'm searching for informations about building ubuntu touch for arm64. I found the wiki page about the future of the android container. Are more informations available and maybe already something to work with? I would like to try to port Ubuntu touch to the Nexus 6p [09:39] Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Golden Gate Bridge Day! 😃 === shuduo is now known as shuduo-afk === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === _salem is now known as salem_ === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [11:17] mcphail: close, but no cigar. :) [11:18] nhaines: aargh [11:18] The first gives "Fatal server error: (EE) Failed t oconnect to Mir: Failed to send message to server: Broken pipe" and the second gives "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;'" [11:18] But Xmir is crashing. [11:18] hmm [11:20] mcphail: out of time to play with it now. But I'll squint at Xmir options later, I think. Thanks! :) [11:24] nhaines: there was a demo of someone running MATE and various apps on the phone on G+ recently. popey gave me a link to a "HOWTO" of sorts. I'll see if I can dig it out later === marcusto_ is now known as marcustomlinson| === marcustomlinson| is now known as marcustomlinson_ === marcustomlinson_ is now known as marcustomlinson === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [13:07] nhaines, Xmir :0 -sw -flatten -rootless --desktop_file_hint=firefox ? [13:08] Xmir --help [13:10] and maybe add X-Ubuntu-Touch=true to firefox.desktop === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch === donkey_12 is now known as o === o is now known as Guest56494 [13:42] hi! i install a package over apt-get, to do this i will to make readwrite my FS and i read in internet that i lose the OTA updates [13:42] but my question is, i will have updates over apt-get? [13:43] V99_, you will not [13:43] or definitibely i lost the updates and i have to reflash the phone? [13:43] ooooooooooops [13:43] :( [13:43] yes, reflash to update [13:43] and there is nbo other method to update? [13:43] i want readwrite system [13:44] V99_, no, you either have a transactional, binary-based update mechanism your you update individual packages [13:45] ok beuno thanks for all [13:45] i will go to reflash === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === greyback__ is now known as greyback [14:49] oSoMoN, heyo! Does webbrowser-app launch for you in xenial? I get "module "Ubuntu.Thumbnailer" is not installed" [14:51] mterry, would you mind filing a bug? I don’t have a xenial setup handy, but I’ll set up a VM and look into it [14:51] oSoMoN, ok [14:52] oSoMoN, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1531179 [14:52] Launchpad bug 1531179 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "[desktop] Crashes on startup in xenial: module "Ubuntu.Thumbnailer" is not installed" [Undecided,New] [14:53] mterry, thanks [14:54] oSoMoN, ah, just missing a dependency on qml-module-ubuntu-thumbnailer0.1 [14:55] huh, that’s an ugly one, this module is in universe, we can’t declare a runtime dependency on it [14:56] will have to make its use conditional [14:57] although it looks like the import is unused [14:57] mterry, would you mind testing something for me? Can you edit /usr/share/webbrowser-app/webbrowser/DownloadsPage.qml, simply comment out the import of Ubuntu.Thumbnailer, and see if that fixes the issue? [14:58] oSoMoN, ok [15:00] oSoMoN: urgh, sorry, that's my fault :/ it is used though, it's just not obvious; importing Ubuntu.Thumbnailer is required for the image://thumbnailer/ image provider [15:00] oSoMoN, still runs. I don't see any new errors in the console [15:00] oSoMoN: we might just have to get rid of thumbnailer usage for now [15:00] oSoMoN: and it'll fallback to mimetype images [15:00] (I uninstalled thumbnailer module too just in case) [15:00] its getting pretty silly how much of our "platform" isn't in main though :/ [15:01] Elleo, oSoMoN: you can file a MIR for the thumbnailer... [15:01] Elleo, agreed, that’s a real pain in the neck [15:02] Elleo, can we add some runtime detection to use image://thumbnailer only if Ubuntu.Thumbnailer can be imported (and not fail otherwise) [15:02] ? [15:02] oSoMoN: possibly, I'm not sure how image providers work if loaded from a Loader or similar, if they get imported properly that way it might be doable [15:03] oSoMoN: I'll do a quick test and see what I can find out [15:03] Elleo, excellent, thanks [15:24] morphis, OK was this "repo sync -j4" thing a practical joke? :) I have no hard drive space left anymore :) [15:24] And I haven't even built it [15:24] mterry: it needs quite a lot space, yet :-) [15:32] anyone knows about the lint_control_architecture_valid_contents check when publishing a click package? I’m trying to publish an update to an app of mine to the store, it’s a pure QML app, and it gets rejected because there are mo files under share/locale/… [15:32] found binaries for architecture 'all': share/locale/ug/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/it/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo, share/locale/fr/LC_MESSAGES/tus.osomon.mo lint_control_architecture_valid_contents [15:33] it looks to me like the check is too strict, mo files should be allowed, or what? [15:33] afaict mo files are not architecture dependent [15:35] oSoMoN, I believe you are right... [15:37] known issue apparently: https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-reviewers-tools/+bug/1530894 [15:37] Launchpad bug 1530894 in Canonical Click Reviewers tools ".mo files don't seem to be allowed in packages of arch 'all'" [Undecided,New] [15:40] Can I get a shell from Android lxc container? [15:42] peat-psuwit: do you mean like: lxc-console -nandroid -t0 [15:42] mariogrip: That works! Thank you. [15:42] :) [15:44] mariogrip: BTW, I heard that you're running UBPorts project. I ports Ubuntu Touch to LG L90 and am interested to have my port in your project. [15:46] peat-psuwit: That awesome! you are welcome to join! [15:47] peat-psuwit: do you have a system-image server for your device? [15:48] mariogrip: I don't have one. I distribute device tarball on xda-developer forum. [15:49] peat-psuwit: I can setup one on ubports server if you want [15:50] mariogrip: That would be great. === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [15:54] mariogrip: I still build my device tarball manually. There're a few bits I have to add in tarball manually to have it appear in Ubuntu rootfs. [15:57] Yeah, i can set it up so you can just upload the manually build device tarball. is sftp to upload ok? [15:58] mariogrip: I think that [15:58] mariogrip: that's fine === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:05] peat-psuwit: w7 is the device name right? [16:06] mariogrip: Yes. [16:07] mariogrip: In fact, there are many variant of this device having different codename. But I use CM's device tree which is unified tree and use this codename. [16:08] mariogrip: I guess user running ubuntu-device-flash for the first time will need to specify --device [16:09] yeah, but if --device is not specified it tries to find it using adb [16:13] mariogrip: It'll get detailed device name, which is likely not "w7". [16:13] yeah, then you need to use --device [16:13] on install [16:20] peat-psuwit: http://system-image.ubports.com/ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/w7/ [16:53] ondra, do you know how to build just a portion of the aosp? Specifically, I'm interested in just the recovery bits [16:53] mterry depends in which tree you are [16:54] mterry I added support for build of recovery and repacking recovery without dependencies to phablet tree [16:54] mterry just run $ make recoveryimage [16:54] ondra, I *think* I want to be eventually proposing agains CyanogenMod/android_bootable_recovery phablet-4.4.2_r1? [16:54] ondra, oh good, will try that make command [16:55] mterry mind recovery build is a bit hack on it's own, so it's not 100% guarantee. It basically copies over Android's boot image ramdisk and then hacks it around [17:04] ondra, ok will try and see if it works :) thanks! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === jdstrand_ is now known as jdstrand [20:12] has anybody listening here an Aquaris E4.5 with Ubuntu 15.04 and a working GPS? [20:12] I am trying to find out whether I have a software or a hardware problem [20:14] I cannot obtain any position information with it [20:14] farad, yes it works here, which channel did you install? [20:15] you definitely want to have the Here AGPS stuff turned on [20:15] sorry I do not know what you mean with channel [20:15] morphis, me again... I get "unsupported HOST_ARCH=x86_64" when trying to build the aosp, which.. fair enough. I tried building in my armhf lxc instance, and it gave same message -- I need to use lunch to run the build off of... what? a phone? [20:15] I accepted the HERE License yes [20:17] * mterry figures out how to run lunch against his phone [20:17] farad, you will need a network conection to initialize it, and it will get lock etter with wifi on if it sees known APs [20:18] otherwise it needs a clear view for gps and can take several mins [20:18] I tested the GPS outside, walking about an hour through the open fields and still no GPS [20:19] and I had mobile data switched on [20:19] so network connection should have been working [20:21] hmm [20:21] indeed [20:21] farad, what version are you running [20:21] my build is called "Ubuntu 15.04 - armhf (20151210-005527) [20:22] ok [20:22] farad, are you using a certain application to test it? I will try t here [20:23] I tried different applications: SensorStatus, OSMTouch and uNav [20:24] about a week ago, I got positioned while driving in a car, but the precision (according to "SensorStatus") was about 2500m, so this cannot really be GPS positioning === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [20:25] yeah sounds like geoip maybe [20:25] working here but I think it may have cached my location [20:26] sensorstaus sees a good lat/long [20:26] I am used to receivers that capture the position after about half a minute and with precision usually about 10m [20:27] so that was what I was initially expecting [20:27] you should get that [20:27] there are other users complaining though [20:28] Bugs are at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/location-service [20:28] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Process/Merges/TestPlan/location-service#Forensics for debug info [20:29] OK, I will go into that [20:29] farad, there is a thread at https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg17499.html [20:29] thaks [20:29] thanks even [20:30] and I never got a vertical position, which is another indicator for no GPS but GeoIP [20:30] yep although vertical is not so good [20:30] yes, I know, but no value at all is not a good sign [20:30] thank you for the links [20:31] I will take my time to read these pages [20:39] <|MaTT|DaMoN|187> hey hey, anyone able to help me with putting android back onto my nexus 5 from installing plasma mobile? [20:42] ondra, hrm. Now I'm confused regarding aosp. build/core/envsetup.sh only allows amd64 (x86_64). But art/runtime/Android.mk only allows i386 (x86) [20:42] ondra, how do I build this? :) [20:43] (for HOST_ARCH) [20:45] farad, you still around? [20:45] yes, still here [20:46] farad, cool, so for your gps issue: are you happy to enable developer mode on your device? [20:46] already done ;-) [20:46] |MaTT|DaMoN|187: this isn't the right channel for that, but just grab the stuff from google and follow their instructions. [20:47] farad, great, so I would need some debugging data from your device [20:48] if I can help with this, that would be great! [20:49] I have not finished the location-service debugging article, but if you can just tell me where to look for it [20:50] all info from the forensics section? [20:50] farad, yup, that would be helpful [20:50] OK, I am working on that [20:51] farad, so to make sure I understand the scenario: you have a sim installed in your device and an active data connection? [20:52] yes, but now I am inside and most likely cannot get GPS signals [20:52] farad, sure, do you have a window nearby, though? [20:52] yes [20:54] okay, so there are two other things I would need: in a shell on the device (get one with phablet-shell), could you please run sudo ls -lh /data/misc [20:54] adb shell is OK as well? [20:54] farad, sure [20:54] easier to copy to the chat [20:55] farad, sure, pastebin is helpful, too [20:56] OK, I should not paste it here, right? [20:56] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com [20:57] http://pastebin.com/F1AssVJg [20:57] OK, I will use the ubuntu pastebin the next time [20:57] anyone is fine really [20:58] just use a pastebin, don't paste stuff into channels unless it's a single line :) [21:00] OK, got that [21:01] farad, thanks [21:02] farad, so the other really interesting bit would be the output of running sudo GLOG_logtostderr=1 GLOG_v=10 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test [21:02] farad, erm: sudo GLOG_logtostderr=1 GLOG_v=100 ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --test [21:05] hmm, I just figured out, that at the moment I still had GPS disabled and tried to switch it back on, but the UI is not reacting [21:06] farad, is that in system settings? [21:06] only the switches for the positioning and the gps, everything else is working [21:06] in the dropdown menu [21:07] pmcgowan, didn't we remove the gps switch from the indicator with ota 8 or ota 8.5? [21:08] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14414122/ [21:09] that is the output, but without GPS enabled [21:09] tvoss, removed for 9, its in 8.5 [21:09] farad, the test always enables the gps no matter what [21:09] farad, it also shuts down the location service instance, so better to reboot after we are done with the testing [21:09] OK great, then this is fine [21:10] farad, so the test is still running, and you will see some log messages coming in as it progresses [21:10] did you start it with GTEST_v=100? [21:10] yes, but you are right, it has not terminated yet [21:11] but no other messages so far [21:11] we need sattelite contact now right? [21:12] so I have to run this command outside? [21:12] well, ideally close to a window [21:12] I usually ssh into the device to be able to place it close to a window [21:13] how long will it take? 100 seconds? [21:14] farad, it depends, more like a 180 - 300 seconds [21:15] hmm, close to window does not seem to be enough [21:16] looks like I have to take the phone for a small walk [21:17] farad, placing it outside usually is good enough [21:18] do I have to restart the phone before restarting that command? [21:19] nope [21:19] farad, you could abort the test and restart with GLOG_v=1000 for crazy level of log detail :) [21:21] if you are ready for parsing that, then I will do [21:21] farad, yup, I am :) [21:21] farad, and it gives a nice indication of what is going on [21:23] ah, NMEA output, I was looking for that for the last week :-) [21:28] farad, :) [21:29] farad, it's not what typical users are interested in :) you should just have said: give me nmea [21:33] well, I am not particularly interested in the NMEA output, but I was looking for exactly that output to debug this case [21:33] farad, ack [21:35] OK, I think something is finally going on there [21:37] but now I have to run the command again, and store the output somewhere so that I can transfer it [21:38] is it difficult to set up ssh? [21:39] farad, not really, it should be setup already [21:42] I think I will just pipe the output to a file and transfer it to the computer manually [21:44] farad, that's fine, too [21:44] farad, please make sure that you run sudo powerd-cli active to make sure that the device does not go to deep sleep === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:44] * dobey wonders how hard it would be to have an app that traps/sends specially formed SMS messages [21:52] farad, so I just ran the test with result: Mean time to first fix in [ms]: 59727 [21:53] yes, I got something like that [21:54] I restarted the command about two minutes ago with your given powerd setting [21:58] mariogrip, hey, have you seen upstart using a lot of cpu on the oneplus? [22:01] popey: no, i haven't noticed. I will note it down on my todo list, thanks for telling me [22:12] farad, so the good news is: your gps is working [22:12] farad, ~60 seconds is quite good, that's without agps [22:36] This is really impressive mariogrip. loving what you've done with the OPO. works really well [22:38] Thanks popey! [22:39] * genii hands out tasty cookies all around [22:39] * mariogrip loves cookies!! [22:40] :D [22:45] mariogrip: don't think the OPO is on the !devices list. Would you like to add it? [22:47] mcphail: Device list? this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [22:48] mariogrip: yes - didn't see it listed there. Would be nice to have another non-Nexus phone listed :) [22:48] Yeah, will add it :) [22:48] Nice :) [22:57] heh, the board name for OPO is bacon? jono must like that :p [22:58] :) [22:58] It's nice to be able to have 10 apps open and non of them get OOMKilled [22:59] mariogrip, I note the OPX has a similar setup (snapdragon 801) as the OPO - does that mean it should be "easy" to port? [23:00] "hopefully" JUP! :D [23:00] now with the new ubp-5.1.1 branch i have 3 new device cooking up :) [23:01] niiiiiice [23:01] * popey hugs mariogrip [23:01] * mariogrip huges back :P [23:02] the ubp-5.1.1 on the oneplus one seems to be even more "snappy" [23:02] aka smooth [23:03] \o/ [23:10] How do i become a Ubuntu member? [23:10] !member [23:10] Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [23:24] hi all [23:25] i have samsung grand prime cell phone [23:25] i want to install ubuntu touch to this phone [23:25] is there any images which is suitable for this device ? [23:31] !devices | Aylinizm [23:31] Aylinizm: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [23:32] mariogrip: having made a port, how much of the process do you think could be automated or scripted, and applied generically across devices with, say, a cyanogenmod tree? [23:35] !devices [23:35] You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [23:36] the ubp-5.1.1 is based on CM btw, and I would say that it's not that hard, I am acutely making a "semi automated" script that puts everything together using the Cyanogenmods "cm.dependencies" file and also sets all the propper settings for ubuntu. [23:37] actually* [23:37] oh thanks. greate news for me [23:38] i just like to use ubuntu. [23:38] mariogrip: that sounds like a great idea. If Ubuntu is going to have a future on devices, it needs to be easier for numpties like me to make a port ;) [23:38] lol. yea [23:39] * mcphail longs for a day when Ubuntu will run on any device with an upstream cyanogenmod port [23:42] if we get libhybris (and other parts) to work "100%" with CM, I think that might be possible for many CM devices [23:43] That is an exciting prospect