ovidiu-florinclivejo: still here? 00:00
ovidiu-florinHow would I make the signature you asked for? 00:00
clivejowhen you run dch it should add you on the changelog 00:01
ovidiu-florinThat is in the diff I've sent you 00:02
clivejothe diff has me as the last one editing it00:02
ovidiu-florinThat's what dch did00:02
ovidiu-florinHow should I change it? 00:03
clivejoit should put your email address and details on it00:03
ovidiu-florinObviously some environment variables aren't set00:04
clivejohave you your deb email etc set?00:04
ovidiu-florinI forgot which they are 00:04
ovidiu-florinAFAIK no 00:04
ovidiu-florinIs there a guide for that? 00:05
clivejoin ~/.bashrc add export EMAIL=clivejo@aol.com00:06
clivejoexport DEBEMAIL=clivejo@aol.com00:06
clivejobut replace the email with your own :P00:06
ovidiu-florinYou use AOL?00:06
clivejoyeah, was a stupid idea00:06
clivejoI didnt think Id be any good at packaging 00:07
ovidiu-florinCan you please add that in the setup section of the notes? 00:07
clivejoand when Jon helped me get setup it was the one I typed in00:07
ovidiu-florinI'm on mobile and in bed... 00:07
clivejoIm just about to go to bed myself00:08
ovidiu-florinI'm during a midnight sleep break 00:08
clivejoIve broken that package and cant for the life of me figure out what Ive done wrong00:08
ovidiu-florinQuassel on Android won't let me select and copy chat text00:10
* ovidiu-florin goes back to sleep 00:11
clivejonight night00:12
ovidiu-florinGood night 00:12
mamarleysoee_: Sorry, but nvidia-361 appears to be severely bugged and most applications (including SDDM, krunner, and plasmashell) segfault immediately upon starting.  I won't be uploading this one.01:37
soee_ha :D01:40
soee_nvidia devs are aware of this problems ?01:40
mamarleyI don't think so, but I will let them know.01:41
soee_cool, thank you.01:41
mamarleyThe KDE crash handler also gets quite a detailed stacktrace that should be helpful.01:42
soee_so they never test drivers before release ?01:44
soee_like test on various DE?01:44
mamarleysoee_: I have no idea what their testing is like, but I'm pretty sure they didn't test this one on KF5/Plasma5.  This is a beta release and not a final, so...01:46
soee_yup, but i think beta requires even more tests :)01:46
* mamarley is apparently the guineapig here. :)01:47
mamarleysoee_: If you are interested: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/908506/linux/many-essential-kde-applications-sddm-krunner-plasmashell-segfault-on-startup-with-361-16/01:59
yofelclivejo: sorry, fell asleep. Your knavalbattle buildlog sounds like you are missing "include" at the beginning of line 304:45
soeeyofel: black screen when logging out or shutting down system, black screen after playmouth and before sddm - this is plasma fault or ubuntu ?05:00
yofelsoee: could you please try sddm 0.13 from ppa:yofel/ppa and see if that works? (and disable the ppa after that)05:01
yofelI believe it's some error between sddm and qt 5.5 or something like that05:02
soeesure, give me few minutes05:02
ScottKyofel: I think we fixed that in sddm 0.13 packaging.05:04
soeeyofel: done. all works as expected i think. Rebooting, logging, logout->login05:06
soeeone thing i have noticed is that sddm now starts much faster when booting05:07
yofelScottK: thanks, that's what I heard, I just didn't get to test it myself yet05:07
soeeso the time plymouth->sddm is lower05:07
ScottKThat's thanks to the libsystemd-pam integration.05:09
soeestill i dream some get we get rid of this black holes between each element05:11
soeegrub -> black screen with white sign for 1 sec ->  plymouth -> black screen with some error messages -> sddm05:12
soeesession -> logout -> black screen with cursor -> black screen -> sddm05:13
yofelthe new apt sure got a lot more efficient with updating pkg lists05:20
soeeyofel: Frameworsk 5.17 are done ?05:31
yofelnote quite, still fiddling with oxygen-icons05:31
soeeah, ok05:31
yofelbut that's the last thing05:32
soeehmm where should i report missing translation: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/06/snapshot47.png ?05:35
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.4.3: W/PPA 5.5.2: W/TODO X/WIP, Apps 15.08.3: W/PPA, 15.12.0: W/TODO X/WIP, FW 5.17: W/TODO X/WIP | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | No, plasma 5.5 isn't packaged yet
yofelapps 15.08.3 released to ppa05:41
soeebackports or archive ?05:43
yofelupdates ppa05:44
yofelarchive whenever I actually get to that05:44
soeemparillo: maybe some announcement ^05:44
yofelor a motu05:44
yofellet me actually try to write the announcement, I *should* have permission for that05:45
yofelsddm uploaded to archive05:56
soeenice :)05:57
soeewe should somehow fix this plasmashell crash when checking updates05:59
soeeit also happens when system checks for update sin the background06:00
yofelright, there's a trigger for the updates display that's crashing it06:00
yofelI don't know where that is though06:01
yofelsoee: can you see this? https://kubuntu.org/?p=2478&preview=true06:09
yofelnow lets test if this oxygen trickery actually works06:10
soeeyofel: no06:11
yofelsoee: as I really just want a text opinion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14417935/06:12
soeeyofel: looks good, valorie ^can you also check it ?06:14
valorieI suggest for the first couple of paragraphs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14417955/06:19
valorieslight changes from yours06:19
yofelack, that's nicer06:20
* valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} yofel06:21
valorieyou've been a brick06:21
yofelwith that we can finally get rid of our missing news bug ^^06:21
valorieI was thinking of that this morning06:22
yofelNow let me wait for the publisher to actually put the 15.08.3 binaries in the ppa, then I'll press publish06:22
yofeland the moment I say that, it finishes...06:23
yofelok, oxygen-icons provides seems to do the job, but this will need forcing somewhere to actually get installed06:30
soeeyofel: can you remove paragraph  tag around ppa, and add center style on blockqute ?06:37
soeenow this paragraph edds extra margin06:37
yofelgood point, that looks weird06:38
yofelmeh, something adds the paragraph anyway06:39
yofellet me just force the margin to 006:40
yofelthere we go06:40
soeemparillo: spreed the word through social media06:44
yofelnow where was I..06:45
soeeah another good news for me: Web developers rejoice; Internet Explorer 8, 9 and 10 die on Tuesday :D06:45
ovidiu-florinhow do they die?06:46
ovidiu-floringreat job yofel06:46
soeemicrosoft wont publish any updates for them anymore06:46
soeeso soon they will be unsafe etc.06:46
yofelwell, that leaves us to support zombies :P06:46
soeei think we can remove 15.08.3 infor from topic06:47
soee*to make it cleaner06:48
yofelnot until the SRU is out06:48
yofelshadeslayer: do you think you could look into uploading plasma and apps to wily-proposed sometime? The packageset for wily is so broken that I don't think fixing it is worth the trouble06:49
soeewe should concentrate on 16.04 :)06:50
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.4.3: W/PPA 5.5.2: X/WIP, Apps 15.08.3: W/PPA, 15.12.0: X/WIP, FW 5.17: X/WIP | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | No, plasma 5.5 isn't packaged yet
yofelI removed the TODOs, we know that even without that being written there06:50
ovidiu-florinI've published the news on our official social media: G+ FB TW06:51
soeeovidiu-florin: cool, thank you06:51
ovidiu-florinI don't have access to linkedin06:51
ovidiu-florinRiddell: ^06:51
ovidiu-florinyofel: I see there are some problems with kwin, can you tell me something about them, so that I'm also in the loop?06:58
yofelovidiu-florin: there are?06:58
ovidiu-florinbesides the problem on my desktop right now06:58
ovidiu-florinI'm reffering tot the packaging06:58
ovidiu-florinor have they been resolved?06:59
yofelI don't think there's anything left with kwin06:59
yofelplasma is done except for the lib mess in discover and the requried ksnapshot 15.1206:59
* soee thinks plasma 5.5 has ugly highlights in task manager :/06:59
yofelI'm just looking at ECM docs, but that's shipping embedeed JS :(07:00
yofelW: extra-cmake-modules: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/doc/ECM/html/_static/jquery.js please use libjs-jquery07:00
yofelW: extra-cmake-modules: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/doc/ECM/html/_static/underscore.js please use libjs-underscore07:00
valorieupdating right now07:00
soeevalorie: plasma ?07:01
valorieI added the kubuntu-ppa and and did the usual07:01
valoriejust as our story advised07:02
yofelah well, nobody reads the shipped ECM docs anyway07:03
valorielooking good!07:07
yofelso I guess frameworks is.. done...07:07
yofellet me make a note about the icon rename though07:07
soeeyofel: apps are also problematic this time ?07:15
yofelwell, a couple of them07:15
yofelalthough most of the red comes from too old frameworks07:16
yofelI copied that over earlier and am retrying things now07:16
soeeah good to know :)07:16
valoriethat sounds hopeful07:16
yofelsgclark: could you please add the current "official" backports workflow to the KA readme?07:26
yofelI don't really get how you're supposed to do that07:27
valoriequestion: is xenial updated now?07:50
valorieif so, I could test on my travel lappy07:50
yofelthe archive? not for a long time07:50
yofelI can put frameworks into the landing ppa if you want to test that, that's ~safe07:50
valoriemaybe tomorrow07:51
yofelmight even put plasma there. discover can't be uploaded in its state, but that's purely policy issues07:51
valorieso it's mostly applications which have to wait?07:51
yofeland figuring out autopackagetest stuff in proposed07:52
valorieonce you've done that, perhaps put out a call for testing?07:52
valoriewould be cool to have a base for the applications to test against, right?07:53
soeeim on Plasma 5.5.2 and Frameworks 5.17 since week :D07:53
valoriewhat are you running, soee?07:53
soeevalorie: Kubuntu Xenial07:54
valoriebut with what ppa?07:54
valorieI've not upgraded that lappy for a few weeks07:54
soeei'm using builds we have there atm07:55
yofelreminder again: don't use staging unless you're prepared to enter dpkg commands at some point07:58
soeeyes i'm aware of that :)07:58
* soee thinks it is boring when everything works just fine ...07:59
yofelI'm fine with minor breakage personally, I'm just not fine if we end up doing package changes where you have to manually downgrade stuff to get your dependencies working again etc.07:59
yofelwhich does happen in staging08:00
soeeframeworks didn't help a lot building apps08:02
yofelwell, they're failing for proper reasons now08:02
yofel/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiCore.so.4.89.0: undefined reference to `typeinfo for Akonadi::Protocol::Command'09:14
yofel/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiCore.so.4.89.0: undefined reference to `Akonadi::Protocol::SelectCollectionCommand::SelectCollectionCommand(Akonadi::Scope const&)'09:14
yofelcollect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status09:14
yofelI think our current apps packages are junk...09:14
clivejoyofel: I have include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk in the rules10:25
clivejoyofel: the current apps packaging are junk?10:26
clivejoI been wasting my time this past few days on junk?!?10:26
soeeyofel: 4:2015.12-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 version set this way because of spectacle ?10:27
yofelsoee: that's what upstream went with for the last ksnapshot release...10:28
yofelit's the plasma 5.5 compatibility one10:28
soeeah, ok :)10:28
yofelotherwise printscreen won't work10:28
yofeluntil spectacle is done10:28
soeeand spectacle is planned for 5.6 ?10:28
yofelit's in apps 15.1210:28
yofelnot done yet10:29
yofelclivejo: I'm just wondering how akonadi-search would fail like that10:29
yofelclivejo: and the only idea that I can come up with is akonadi+FW5.15 + akonadi-search+FW5.17 -> boom10:29
Riddellovidiu-florin: I added you to kubuntu company on linkedin10:30
yofelclivejo: why didn't you copy frameworks before you uploaded apps?10:30
ovidiu-florinRiddell: thank you10:31
clivejoyofel: I didnt know :/10:31
BluesKajHI folks10:31
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I miss you :D10:31
Riddellovidiu-florin: come to fosdem then :)10:31
yofelclivejo: I think for now we can continue with things as they are, I'll just upload an akonadi rebuild as a test10:32
yofelclivejo: once we have FW 5.18 done we'll have to do a rebuild test anyway10:32
clivejoI thought (probably assumed) that the apps staging paa would have the frameworks and plasma staging as included PPA's10:32
yofelI removed any deps from all ppas10:32
yofelthey depend on the primary archive with proposed, nothing more10:33
clivejodid they used to?10:33
clivejojust wondering where I got that idea from10:33
yofelthey did10:33
yofelwhich makes the idea of having seperate ppas useless if work in one PPA has side-effects on work in another10:34
clivejosorry, I didnt know that10:34
clivejobut it explains a few things10:34
ovidiu-florinRiddell: I'm just an employee now10:34
yofelthey also depended on a bunch of other PPAs that nobody seemed to remember and then people were wondering why they have strange build results10:34
ovidiu-florinI don't have posting rights10:34
yofelso now we work in pristine environments. If you need something from other PPAs, copy it10:35
clivejoKubuntu is a comapny?10:35
yofelit is on linkedin10:35
soeeRiddell: releasing 5.5.3 today ?10:35
yofelthat's the only thing they understand ^^10:35
clivejoa virtual one, or a real one?10:35
Riddellovidiu-florin: try now10:35
clivejogrrrr, someone please please help me with knavalbattle, its driving me crazy10:36
clivejoI know its something simple, but I cant see it!10:36
ovidiu-florinRiddell: thank you10:37
yofelclivejo: you broke the control file10:38
yofelprotip: use a text editor with syntax highlighting ;)10:39
clivejowhere did I break it?10:40
yofelI'll leave finding that out to you as a leaning experience10:40
clivejoyou evil man!10:40
yofelI already gave you a tip10:41
yofelshould be fairly easy to spot as the syntax is invalid10:41
clivejowhat text editor offers syntax highlighing?10:41
yofelI personally use vim, but it seem like kate works too for this10:42
clivejoshould wrap-and-sort not fix that?10:43
Riddellsoee: I'll check with plasma devs to see if they're happy10:43
yofelit can only work on stuff that it can read, and for that the syntax needs to be correct10:44
clivejois that it?10:44
clivejoa space10:44
yofelSections start at char 1 of a line, not 210:44
clivejo**** **** ******** **** **** of a thing10:44
soeeif someone can confirm, please do: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35761310:45
ubottuKDE bug 357613 in notifier "Misleading notification after updates installation" [Normal,Unconfirmed]10:45
clivejothats been bugging me all yesterday evening and even had a dream/nightmare about it10:45
OdurIsn't Apps 15.08.3 complete? http://pastebin.com/W7mpHWtB10:46
yofelto span the bridge between that and your error: there were simply no build-deps defined10:46
yofelOdur: yes?10:46
Oduryofel: Just wonder because I see some 15.08.2 apps (eg telepathy) still in my installation after updating.10:47
yofelOdur: we don't update packages that weren't changed in bugfix updates10:48
yofelthat's why you still have a lot of .2 packages10:48
OdurOh, that explains a lot. Thanks :)10:49
clivejoyofel: did you copy in the required frameworks to apps 15.12.0?10:50
yofelI just copied everything10:50
yofelalthough, I deleted breeze-icons later, but I don't think we need that10:50
clivejohave you a script to rebuild everything?10:50
yofeltheoretically yes, but I would postpone that until we have 5.18 done, for now there's lots of other stuff to fix10:51
yofeloh right, I wanted to upload akonadi10:51
clivejohave you staged FW 5.18 yet? 10:52
yofelnope, was still finishing something in 5.1710:52
yofellet me copy that to landing, then we can stage that10:53
clivejo*shakes head* hurry up :P10:53
yofelcopied, go ahead10:55
=== yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.4.3: W/PPA 5.5.2: X/WIP, Apps 15.08.3: W/PPA, 15.12.0: X/WIP, FW 5.18: X/WIP | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | No, plasma 5.5 isn't packaged yet
soeeframeworks 5.18 were released ?10:58
yofelrelease is on saturday, but tarballs are up10:59
soeeahh.. :)10:59
mparilloI am reading the backlog and am pleased to see the link to: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-4-3-and-applications-15-08-3-for-kubuntu-15-10/ Previously (http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=424), I had noted that 5.4.3 was available in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports. Is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa closer to the 'regular updates channel'?11:00
yofeland with that I mean wily-updates11:02
soeeyofel: can we lso do some cleanup and remove from status pages all outdated entries?11:04
yofelI think that's really something that the cronjob should be doing11:05
yofelfeel free to send a patch11:05
soeewhere is the whole script ? :D11:06
yofelthat's what's called by cron: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/ppa-build-status-cron11:07
soeesofpedia spreads the word: http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-15-10-gets-plasma-5-4-3-and-applications-15-08-3-498510.shtml11:12
RoninLIfehey xD11:12
yofelhi again11:13
* yofel realizes that he still didn't upload akonadi11:13
soeeRoninLIfe: say sometgin more :D we already know you know "hi/hey" word :)11:14
RoninLIfei tryed to but you kept disconnecting yesterday11:16
acher88excellent efforts people :)11:17
soeeah i see :)11:18
RoninLIfeThanks for the source code 11:18
RoninLIfeim going to do it 11:18
soeeyofel: and this file kubuntu-ppa-build-status-cron.conf ?11:20
yofelsoee: e.g. https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/build-status-conf/applications.conf11:21
yofelI think all you need to do is list all files in the status dir, grep -v the current version and delete everything else11:23
soeei never did anything like those scripts :) so i first have to get familiar with it11:24
yofelit's just a shell script, and shell scripting is always good to know ;)11:25
yofelThe following packages will be REMOVED:11:32
yofel  breeze kgamma5 kubuntu-desktop libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 plasma-desktop plasma-widgets-addons11:32
yofelah great, frameworks 5.17 isn't installable without plasma 5.511:33
* clivejo face palms11:38
clivejo@KCC you should be the ones making the announces, not softpedia et al :P 11:40
* clivejo dreams of a time where kubuntu.org is the first and last stop regarding all things Kubuntu11:41
yofelclivejo: that IS our news :P https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-4-3-and-applications-15-08-3-for-kubuntu-15-1011:41
* yofel wonders what that ark test failure is trying to tell him o.O11:43
* clivejo has wondered that too11:44
clivejois it a missing desktop file?11:44
yofelnot sure, it's talking about a .menu file, but that's for debians ancient custom menu system...11:44
* yofel goes reading the test11:45
clivejowe have a tests folder in the packaging11:46
clivejocould that be changing something11:46
yofelthat should be autopkgtest stuff I think?11:46
yofelI wonder what changed, the 15.08 test runs fine11:55
clivejomeans" a commotion or fuss, especially one caused by conflicting views."11:56
clivejoaptly named11:59
yofelhm, lots of changes since 15.08 in ark, but the kde ci builds are fine11:59
clivejothat is strange#12:00
clivejoyofel: which CI builds are fine?12:10
yofelthis might be something we have to autopkgtest, as you might need ark INSTALLED to run the test12:12
yofellets test that idea12:12
yofelyep, that work12:13
* yofel disables tests at build-time12:13
yofeland akonadi-search still doesn't build12:25
* clivejo kicks akonadi12:26
yofelNot in PPA: kde-baseapps, kdepim, kdepim-runtime, kdepimlibs, libkdcraw, marble, spectacle, kde-l10n,12:29
yofelkdepimlibs missing might actually be relevant here12:29
clivejoI dont undertsand the PIM12:30
clivejothey are in the manual folder12:31
yofelsomeone obviously didn't update the versions in CMakeLists.txt12:31
yofelif I build akonadi-search locally it just plain doesn't compile12:31
yofellet me upload the pim stuff12:32
yofelyou didn't update the versions in packaging-exceptions.json, so the script probably failed12:32
yofelactually, I think I didn't do that either last time...12:32
yofelwell, kdepimlibs here I come12:33
yofelkdepimlibs and kde-baseapps up12:39
yofelkdepim up12:40
yofelkdepim-runtime up12:41
yofellibkdcraw up12:42
yofelmarble up12:44
yofel- _ZN7Akonadi13MessageStatusaSERKS0_@Base 15.07.9012:58
yofel+#MISSING: 4:15.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1# _ZN7Akonadi13MessageStatusaSERKS0_@Base 15.07.9012:58
shadeslayeryofel: sure, if you can tell me the command I need to run13:00
yofelheh, I'll tell you once I remember that myself13:01
clivejoyofel:  is on fire today!13:01
yofel    Remove MessageStatus::operator= [-Wclazy-rule-of-two]13:08
yofel    The auto-generated one is fine and the class didn't implement a13:08
yofel    copy-ctor.13:08
yofelare we the only people that care about the ABI -.-?13:08
clivejoyofel: I care cause you care :)13:09
yofelyou would care for other reasons as well once an application crashes on you because someone broke the ABI in a lib13:09
clivejoI dont understand ABI :/13:10
* yofel remembers qt4.6 *shudder*13:10
yofelclivejo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_binary_interface13:11
clivejoyeah, but I dont know how it works in packaging13:12
clivejodark magic is seems13:12
sheytanSo guys. 5.4.3 just released as updates, and what about 5.5?13:22
sheytanIt's a long time already after the release13:23
clivejosheytan: working on it13:23
sheytanany release date?13:23
clivejoonce the problems are fixed13:24
yofelactually, let me copy it to landing, muon needs fixing, but nothing that will screw people over13:24
* clivejo hi-fives yofel13:24
yofelclivejo: did you look at 5.18?13:25
clivejoyofel: no, Im working on artikulate13:25
yofelok, then I'll upload it13:25
clivejoIts building locally but failing autotests13:25
clivejo1/2 Test #2: TestLanguageFiles ................***Exception: Other  0.47 sec13:25
clivejoQXcbConnection: Could not connect to display 13:25
clivejoI need to test with that fake frame buffer?13:26
clivejoremind me again how we did that!13:26
yofel xvfb-run dh_auto_test13:26
* clivejo takes notes this time13:26
yofeland don't forget the build-dep13:27
clivejowhats the dep again?13:28
yofelcan't remember, try dpkg -S xvfb-run or so13:28
clivejo!info xvfb13:29
ubottuxvfb (source: xorg-server): Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.17.2-1ubuntu9.1 (wily), package size 800 kB, installed size 2330 kB13:29
yofelmoszumanska is as slow as always...13:32
clivejoyofel: once I exit out of a pbuild, are the files I was working on saved ?13:33
clivejoI forgot to copy the control file13:33
yofel-               extra-cmake-modules (>= 5.16.0~),13:35
yofel+               extra-cmake-modules (>= 5.17.0~),13:35
yofelI'm uploading 5.18, wth does this script do..13:35
yofelwe have a versions.json, seriously...13:35
yofelno, that still doesn't do what it's supposed to do13:38
yofelgreat, our scripts have a chicken and egg problem13:42
yofeldev-package-name-lists can only update the lists with versions that are in git, those are then used to bump build-deps during staging-upload13:43
yofelbut as that adds a new version, the deps are already wrong13:43
clivejoyofel: artikulate is still failing the tests :(13:45
clivejoFAIL!  : TestCourseFiles::fileLoadSaveCompleteness() 'manager.courseResources(manager.languageResources().first()->language()).count() == 1' returned FALSE. ()13:45
clivejo   Loc: [../../autotests/testcoursefiles.cpp(86)]13:45
clivejono idea what that means13:45
clivejoIll commit the fixes Ive done so far and upload to PPA13:45
yofelit looks like santa's changes broke the existing workflow13:46
clivejonot good :(13:49
yofellet me monkey patch stuff13:49
yofelmeh, too complicated, I'll just edit stuff by hand13:52
* clivejo has to go do some plumbing, yofel will you have a look at artikulate ppa3 when its finsihed building and let me know what it is complaining about! 13:52
yofelif I get to it, sure13:52
clivejoand if there are easy fixes, make a list and Ill do them later13:53
clivejoeasy fixes = something I can do!13:53
yofelnow let me try to update to plasma 5.513:54
yofelUnpacking plasma-desktop-data (4:5.5.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2) over (4:5.4.3-0ubuntu1) ...13:57
yofeldpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.5.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack):13:57
yofel trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_device_automounter.mo', which is also in package kde-l10n-engb 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu113:57
yofeloh right, there was that -.-13:57
bshahwill there be version bump for kf5?13:58
bshahokay... /me postpones updating frameworks for mobile I14:01
yofelI'm just generating the packages, so the bump should be committed in an ~hour14:01
yofelRiddell: regarding above overwrite error, does kde plan to abandon the l10n packs?14:15
Riddellyofel: l10n packs are still part of kde applications releases14:16
Riddelljust not frameworks and plasma14:16
yofelwhy are plasma and FW not using them?14:16
Riddellbecause they're not released along with applications14:17
Riddellyou could argue we could have plasma-l10n and fw-l10n tars but I think it becomes more bother than its worth then14:17
Riddellarguably it already is14:17
yofelyou could just release l10n every time you release something..14:17
yofelbut nvm14:17
yofeljust that moving stuff out of l10n means that we need to break/replace ALL l10n packages14:18
Riddellyofel: kde-l10n-common has debian/overlapping-files14:18
Riddellwhich should remove files that are moved out14:18
yofelRiddell: and that helps me how in this case?14:19
Riddellit should remove it from kde-l10n-engb 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 but indeed it would still need a replace/break14:20
OdurWhat's the diffrent status colours on the build status page? Red=failed, green=OK i think. But blue and orange?14:29
yofelblue: not yet built for various reaons14:29
yofelorange: has issues, but nothing that completely breaks the package14:30
Odurissues like linitian errors?14:30
yofellintian, new symbols, stuff like that, yeah14:30
OdurOk, thanks :) Trying to learn about your workflow in the background :)14:31
yofelbshah: kf5 5.18 committed14:46
=== rdieter_work is now known as rdieter
geniiI'm looking at /etc/init.d/sddm and see HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER= option. But I'm not clear if setting this for lightdm will prevent sddm from running or if it will still load but defer to lightdm. Does anyone know?15:25
genii( right now both are loading anyways)15:26
* genii looks over at shadeslayer15:28
geniiGuess I'll have to experiment15:37
yofelgenii: you'll probably rather have to figure out how /lib/systemd/system/sddm.service etc. works15:39
geniiyofel: This may require more coffee then...15:39
* genii goes to make a fresh batch15:39
yofelthe postinst script also has some complex default-display-manager handling related to systemd15:40
geniiFor a "Simple Desktop Display Manager" this thing is quite complex15:42
yofelabout as simple as lightdm is "light"15:43
geniiTouche ;)15:43
shadeslayergenii: I'd think that debconf selections disables sddm when you enable lightdm15:48
shadeslayerand vice versa15:48
geniishadeslayer: I originally started with sddm but because I have a dead screen on my laptop and it wants to span displays I couldn't login and had to switch to lightdm where it has separate login for each. But ps shows both running for some reason ( although lightdm is what I'm seeing on the external screen and how I'm loggin in)15:53
shadeslayerthat's odd15:54
mamarleygenii: sddm 0.13 actually puts the login prompt on all displays for me.15:55
geniimamarley: Ah, I've got 0.11 (Vivid)15:58
genii..wanted to get my inverter replaced before I go to Wily or Xenial in case I have to wrestle with display managers over ssh again15:59
yofelhe sensed the question slowly crawling near him from the shadows ^^16:01
geniiMaybe dpkg-reconfigure gdm doesn't stop sddm from running or something16:02
yofelmeh, our epoch handling was broken again16:46
yofel(also partly affects fw 5.17)16:46
yofelnamely: plasma-framework, sonnet, solid and threadweaver16:47
ovidiu-florinyofel: there were 2 env variables to be set for debian packagind17:11
ovidiu-florinone with name and one with email17:11
ovidiu-florinDEBEMAIL is one17:11
ovidiu-florinwhat's the other?17:11
clivejoyofel: I see fw 5.18.0 but no uploads yet?17:14
yofelI had to emergency delete everything17:14
yofelthe packages ended up with epoch17:14
yofelI made a mistake when I removed the epoch blacklisting for frameworks17:15
clivejoyofel is human after all :P17:15
yofeland I suffer like one, I also had to delete stuff from the CI to fix it -.-17:16
yofelfor some reason only 4 of the 5.17 packages are broken as well17:16
clivejobut the delete is so weird in LP17:16
clivejowill have cause you problems uploading again?17:16
yofelI tried re-uploading, but everything got rejected because of file conflicts thanks to the slow janitor17:17
yofelbuilding another set right now17:17
clivejocan staging generate ppa2 automatically?17:17
* genii makes some really strong coffee and passes the mugs around17:17
clivejothe staging script I mean17:17
yofelnot that I know of, I'm scripting that by hand17:18
ovidiu-florinclivejo: wait, yofel is human?17:18
clivejoapparently so17:18
clivejoI thought he was a machine17:18
ovidiu-florinso did I17:19
clivejothe yofel bot17:19
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!17:19
ovidiu-florinwhat happened to kubottu ?17:20
ovidiu-florinyofel: ready for the meeting ?17:20
yofelwhat meeting?17:21
ovidiu-florinCore meeting before the podcast17:21
clivejothe core one17:21
yofelnot really..17:21
ovidiu-florinclivejo: I want to hear you as well17:21
ovidiu-florinperhaps even see you17:21
ovidiu-florinso I know how you look17:21
clivejohear me?17:21
clivejoyou wont be able to understand me!17:21
ovidiu-florinno problem17:22
ovidiu-florinyou can spreak gibberish17:22
clivejoand my webcam is broke, accidently on purpose17:22
ovidiu-florinit's enough to make a synthetizer with your voice :P17:22
ovidiu-florinyofel: DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME are set, but when I run dch it does not add the email and timestamp17:27
ovidiu-florinyofel: as you can see in https://paste.kde.org/pord0vftl17:27
ovidiu-florinwhat am I missing?17:27
yofelit won't do it if it edits an existing UNRELEASED changelog, then it'll just add a new section with your DEBFULLNAME17:27
ovidiu-florinok, then can you just use the pastebin ^^17:28
clivejoovidiu-florin: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/knavalbattle.git/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive17:29
yofeluploading the next attempt at fw5.1817:30
clivejoattempt number two acknowledged17:30
yofelnow it's accepting stuff, finally17:30
ovidiu-florinclivejo: also the install files list17:30
clivejothats the diff you sent, its commited to debian now17:31
clivejoand the package is green17:31
clivejothere was a space before Build-dep line in control file, but I think that was my fault17:32
clivejowhich was causing it to fail17:32
ovidiu-florinI looked through the log, it's all there17:33
clivejoovidiu-florin: wanna do libkdcraw?17:34
ovidiu-florinclivejo: I want to know I I can get commit access17:36
yofelsoee: so stuff ended up being busted anyway. You'll have to force-downgrade this, but only once we're done with 5.18:17:37
yofellibkf5sonnet-dev libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5sonnet5-data sonnet-plugins libkf5sonnet5-dbg plasma-framework-dev plasma-framework libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5plasma5 plasma-framework-dbg libkf5solid-dev libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5solid-bin qtdeclarative5-kf5solid qml-module-org-kde-solid libkf5solid5-dbg libkf5threadweaver-dev libkf5threadweaver5 libkf5threadweaver5-dbg17:37
clivejoneed to do a few and get one of us to commit17:37
yofelprobably easiest to dpkg --force-depends -r them and figure stuff out with apt install -f17:37
clivejowhat is up with ECM?17:47
yofelwhat do you mean?17:47
clivejothey always seem to fail17:47
yofelunstable != fail17:47
clivejoyet they seem to build sucessfully17:48
yofelthere's a KCI-W in ecm17:48
clivejoyofel: are you still uploading?17:48
clivejoNot in PPA: kactivities-kf5, kdesu, kdnssd-kf5, kfilemetadata-kf5, kwallet-kf5, 17:49
yofelok, let me look for those17:49
ovidiu-florinunstable = ???17:49
yofelovidiu-florin: warning level in kci17:49
ovidiu-florinok, ty17:49
ovidiu-florindo we have a legent written somewhere for what the colors mean in build status pages?17:50
yofelI think we had ages ago17:50
ovidiu-florinok, I'll make one now in the notes17:50
yofelblue: not built yet (needs building, depwait, building, uploading, ...)17:51
yofelred: FTBFS or otherwise very broken17:51
yofelorange: minor things like lintian warnings, new symbols, etc.17:51
ovidiu-floringreen ?17:54
ovidiu-florinwhat's FTBFS ?17:54
yofelfailed to build from source17:54
yofelwell, green is "ok"17:54
yofelor at least auto-qa ok17:54
ovidiu-florinwhat's auto-qa?17:55
yofelautomated qa17:55
* clivejo giggles17:55
* ovidiu-florin thinks QA means Qwestions / Answers17:55
* yofel throws old throuts after clivejo :P17:55
yofelQuality Assurance? ^^17:56
yofelclivejo: all uploaded, thanks for the reminder17:56
clivejoWikipeda ==> Quality assurance (QA) is a way of preventing mistakes or defects in manufactured products and avoiding problems when delivering solutions or services to customers; which ISO 9000 defines as "part of quality management focused on providing confidence that quality requirements will be fulfilled".17:57
clivejosuggests an edit products and software17:57
ovidiu-florinthank you for the insight17:58
clivejoyofel: can I give the PPA a kick?17:59
clivejo./kubuntu-retry-builds -r frameworks --ppa=kubuntu-ppa --ppaname=staging-frameworks --force ?17:59
yofelno point in doing that until the publisher runs18:00
yofelI'm waiting to do the damn same thing18:00
clivejopity they couldnt be uploaded in order18:01
yofelwe should probably indicate the publisher wait on the status page somehow18:01
clivejoa ticking clock icon18:01
yofelconsidering how slow the publisher is today that wouldn't have changed much...18:01
yofelpossibly, yeah18:02
ovidiu-florinsgclark: ping18:02
ovidiu-florinvalorie: ping18:02
clivejoovidiu-florin: is the core meeting in an hour?18:02
* clivejo goes and looks for food18:02
clivejoshame we cant poke the publisher18:05
clivejoit finished 30mins ago18:06
clivejoPublished 22 minutes ago18:07
yofelinteresting how annoying a blinking gear can be :P18:10
yofeland.. retr18:18
xnoxsgclark, why is there libkdegames4? and why things are not using libkdegames?18:29
xnoxfyi libkdemages4 now started to ftbfs, due to changes in symbols files, and i'm not sure if i should upload a diff dropping them. 18:30
xnoxfrom test rebuild https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline/+build/853423418:30
yofelxnox: those are gccinternal symbols and can go, but now that you mention libkdegames4, the whole source might be obsolete by now18:41
yofellet me verify that18:41
yofelxnox: it seem that for now we still have a bunch of games that rely on libkdegames4, so it'll have to stay18:49
Rick_TimmisHi Everyone.18:55
Rick_TimmisCore Team Hangout, will be starting @7pm UTC18:55
ovidiu-florinsitter: are you around?19:16
* yofel throws another large sets of throuts at launchpads janitor19:50
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clivejoyofel: what does failed to upload mean?19:55
yofelopen the the build page, there you have a link to the upload log19:56
yofelthat'll tell you what went wrong19:56
yofelessentially that means that the builder wasn't able to upload the build result to the PPA19:56
clivejolooks successful19:56
yofelclivejo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks/+build/880940819:57
yofelthere's an uploadlog19:57
yofelfailed to upload only can happen after successfull builds19:57
yofelwe'll have to wait until the janitor physically deletes the "deleted" binaries, then we can retry this stuff19:58
yofelthat might take a couple hours though :/19:58
clivejoI dont like janitor19:58
clivejoso some of your ppa1 packages got built?19:59
clivejoand made binary babies19:59
yofelyes, *with* the epoch, and those zombies are now blocking stuff19:59
yofelthat's why you don't mess this stuff up, ever -.-20:00
* clivejo makes notes20:00
clivejodont do what yofel did, ever20:00
yofelat least now you learnt what that launchpad can fail to upload stuff ;P20:00
clivejoand epoch's are evil20:01
clivejonetworkmanager failed to build20:02
clivejois that going to be another problem?20:02
yofeldidn't I remove those symbols?20:03
clivejotheir back!20:03
yofellet me c&p the symbolfile from a 5.17 build and see what the diff is20:04
yofelyes, I did remove them... 20:05
yofelmaybe I forgot to push /o\20:06
clivejopush phillip push!20:12
yofelI did this time :P20:12
clivejoits a networkmanager baby!20:12
yofel@podcast: LOL20:17
clivejoyofel you watching the podcast?20:19
clivejoIve stalled20:22
snelewill plasma 5.6 make it into 16.04?20:44
ahoneybun5.6 is set for 2016-03-2220:45
ahoneybunso it would be real close20:45
mamarleyIt will almost definitely be in one of the PPAs though.20:46
yofelPPAs certainly, release... dunno. Event the beta release is after our beta1 milestone...20:47
=== rdieter is now known as rdieter_work
yofelhm, we need to do an archive cleanup check at some point21:32
yofelI just found out that we have 3 useless l10n packges in the archive by coincidence21:33
yofelaaand I found a bug in our pkg-kde-tools merge21:37
yofelthis day is getting better every minute21:38
clivejowhats the bug?21:41
yofeldebian: kde-l10n-cavalencia, ubuntu: kde-l10n-ca-valencia21:42
yofelbreaks the kde-l10n:all substvar21:42
clivejoand thats one of the worst ones to break :/21:45
yofelwell, it really just messes with the valencia package, but not nice21:45
yofelI think we need some defined package list that we should be using for upgrade tests21:46
clivejohave you tried restarting a failed to upload FW?21:46
yofelthere I had the idea to install kde-l10n-* and boom, two issues slap me right in the face21:46
yofelno, I know that they'll fail again21:46
clivejohow do you know when the files have actually been deleted?21:47
yofelI'm looking at the package deletion page, that shows sources in "Deleted" state21:47
yofelas long as they're visible, stuff stays broken21:47
clivejocould someone on the LP channel hurry it along?21:48
yofelI don't think the sysadmins mess with the cronjob unless it's a real emergency21:48
clivejoovidiu-florin: fancy fixing kalgebra?  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/233127145/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kalgebra_4%3A15.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz22:00
ovidiu-florinbut tomorrow22:00
clivejono prob22:00
ovidiu-florinI can't anymore today22:00
clivejoIll do it :)22:00
clivejoits a missing files one, should be easy enough to fix22:01
ronnocHi guys! It appears that one is not able to comment on the Kubuntu website at the moment. I tried to leave a comment about the new package release, but I get an error about filling out name / email even though that info. was present. 22:02
ovidiu-florincomments should be disabled22:18
ovidiu-florinronnoc: 22:18
ronnocovidiu-florin:  ok. that's fine. perhaps the comment box should not be visible then?22:18
ovidiu-florinronnoc: I know22:19
ovidiu-florinI've fixed it now22:19
ronnocOK :)22:19
ovidiu-florinsome people forget to disable them ( yofel ) :P22:19
* yofel thought they were disabled in general...22:20
ronnocI copied my positive comment to the clippy, so I'll head over to G+ and comment there :)22:20
ovidiu-florinyeah... WP does not allow you to do that22:20
ovidiu-florinwithout installing a plugin22:20
clivejoovidiu-florin: turn them off globally22:20
clivejoSettings>Discussion>Allow people to post comments22:21
clivejosaves you having to do it manually on each page22:21
ovidiu-florinclivejo: done, thanks22:28
* ovidiu-florin ZZZzzzzz.....22:29
yofelnooooo, after all the fixed stuff -.-22:29
clivejoyou updated it to 4.4.1?22:29
clivejoovidiu-florin: ^22:29
yofelclivejo: 4.4.0 right now22:32
clivejocheck for updates22:32
clivejo4.4.1 is bug release22:32
yofelI saw it, but I'm not sure if we do that or canonical IS22:32
clivejoId so it ASAP :P22:33
yofelwell, lets hang up a vodoo doll and pray that nothing happens until tomorrow22:33
* clivejo is updating all his sites 22:33
yofelnow I'm curious what they fixed...22:34
* yofel looks22:34
clivejofixes a cross-site scripting vulnerability22:35
clivejoand approx 50 other minor bugs22:36
clivejoyofel: can you help me with kdesdk-thumbnailers?22:38
clivejoit looks like an install file change#22:39
clivejoso I commented out the kde4 files and run it in pbuilder22:39
clivejoit completes but the two packages are empty and no reports of missing lists22:39
clivejoit doesnt seem to build any files either :/22:40
yofelah ahhah ahahhhaaha22:44
yofelanother badly split and/or partly migrated thing22:44
yofelit only contains one thumnailer, and you're missing the one optional build-dep that's required to build that22:44
yofelso even though you have all required deps, it doesn't actually do anything useful22:44
* yofel has a kgamma dejavĂș22:45
clivejowhat build dep am I missing?22:45
yofel-- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found:22:45
yofel * GettextPO22:45
clivejolibgettextpo-dev ?22:46
* genii sacrifices a small vegetarian mammal to the voodoo doll22:47
yofeldunno, install it and see if it helps22:47
clivejoI had another one like this, cant remember the name :/22:50
yofelwelcome to the world where people split stuff out and don't care what happens to the remains........22:50
clivejook that seems to have worked, built 3 files22:51
clivejoooo Neon hook is fixed!22:53
yofelit is nice to have the crashes gone ^^22:55
clivejoyeah scared the life outta me the first time it happened22:56
clivejothought Id done something wrong22:56
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clivejohi Blizzz#22:58
yofelwelcome to FOSS development, where you either develop an ignorance shield against all kinds of complaints after a while or quit doing it22:58
clivejohi BluesKaj22:58
clivejowow 400Mb of updates23:00
BluesKajhi clivejo , i'm stick ing around later then usual to seei if plasma 5.5 will be ready soon23:00
yofelnot today23:00
yofelunless launchpad shows some mercy23:00
Blizzzhey clivejo23:00
BluesKajok yofel thanks 23:00
clivejosorry BluesKaj, run into more problems23:00
clivejosoory Blizzz, my autocomplete malfunctioned :/23:01
BluesKajno need to be sorry 23:01
BluesKajok I'll see you guys tomorrow23:02
Blizzzclivejo: no worried :)23:02
* yofel remembers the last couple weeks23:02
yofelclivejo: you've been doing like 500% the work of the official devs, you may feel awesome :P23:02
clivejoI feel smelly!23:03
clivejonot awesome!23:03
clivejothe plumbing job was in a cattle shed!23:04
clivejoyofel: mind scanning over artikulate --> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/233164504/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.artikulate_4%3A15.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz23:06
clivejono idea whats wrong there :/23:07
clivejoI asked in kde-dev and noone answered :(23:07
yofelwhat does that even test.....23:08
* clivejo shrugs23:08
clivejoshould I bump /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/dhmk.mk to 3?23:10
yofelfor kf5, yes23:10
clivejothink that will make a difference to the tests?23:11
yofelmaybe not, but it will prevent other possible silent breakage23:11
yofeliirc it sets paths and stuff like that for frameworks23:11
clivejotests are xvfb-run23:12
clivejocould that make a difference?23:12
clivejoyofel: is there a way to grep through the archive for /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2 and bump them to 3?23:15
yofelfeel free to clone all repos and do the greb23:16
yofelbut don't update anything that's still qt423:16
clivejowell I still have apps cloned locally in workspace/apps23:16
clivejonope, bumping to 3 doesnt solve the test issue23:19
clivejoSchema at file  ""  is invalid. sounds wrong23:19
yofel uh, looking at the test code this might be another ark...23:20
yofelbut this time out of lazyness23:20
yofelclivejo: look at init() in autotests/testcoursefiles.cpp23:22
clivejoI am23:22
clivejothere is nothing there23:22
yofelthere is a fixme there23:22
clivejouncomment KGlobal::dirs()->addResourceDir("appdata" , "./autotests/data"); ?23:23
yofelI wouldn't do that, if upstream says that's broken I believe them23:23
yofelyep, works once you install it23:24
yofelso... skipit23:24
clivejoin rules?23:25
clivejothats cheating23:25
yofelor well, we can autopkgtest this23:25
yofelbut other than actually fixing the test there's no way to get this to work during build time23:26
clivejoyofel: should I comment out the current autotest and leave a FIXME notice or remove them completely?23:33
yofelmight as well leave a fixme23:33
clivejoit should be fixed in future releases?23:34
clivejoLOL I sense you dont see that happening!23:35
clivejoany time soon anyways23:35
yofelI've seen a lot of disable tests in the packages from debian, so I'm not sure if we should23:36
yofelwhich reminds me......23:37
yofelwe never did merge apps with debian, did we?23:37
clivejothis is true23:38
* clivejo didnt do it23:38
yofelso, launchpad deleted *some* packages o.O23:52
yofelI retried *some* packages23:53
yofelanyway, off to bed. work tomorrow23:56
clivejonight night yofel23:58
* clivejo goes to bed too23:59

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