| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: still here? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| clivejo | yup | 00:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | How would I make the signature you asked for? | 00:00 |
| clivejo | when you run dch it should add you on the changelog | 00:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | That is in the diff I've sent you | 00:02 |
| clivejo | the diff has me as the last one editing it | 00:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | That's what dch did | 00:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | How should I change it? | 00:03 |
| clivejo | it should put your email address and details on it | 00:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | Obviously some environment variables aren't set | 00:04 |
| clivejo | have you your deb email etc set? | 00:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | I forgot which they are | 00:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | AFAIK no | 00:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | Is there a guide for that? | 00:05 |
| clivejo | in ~/.bashrc add export EMAIL=clivejo@aol.com | 00:06 |
| clivejo | export DEBEMAIL=clivejo@aol.com | 00:06 |
| clivejo | but replace the email with your own :P | 00:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | You use AOL? | 00:06 |
| clivejo | yeah, was a stupid idea | 00:06 |
| clivejo | I didnt think Id be any good at packaging | 00:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | Can you please add that in the setup section of the notes? | 00:07 |
| clivejo | and when Jon helped me get setup it was the one I typed in | 00:07 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm on mobile and in bed... | 00:07 |
| clivejo | Im just about to go to bed myself | 00:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm during a midnight sleep break | 00:08 |
| clivejo | Ive broken that package and cant for the life of me figure out what Ive done wrong | 00:08 |
| ovidiu-florin | Quassel on Android won't let me select and copy chat text | 00:10 |
| * ovidiu-florin goes back to sleep | 00:11 | |
| clivejo | night night | 00:12 |
| ovidiu-florin | Good night | 00:12 |
| mamarley | soee_: Sorry, but nvidia-361 appears to be severely bugged and most applications (including SDDM, krunner, and plasmashell) segfault immediately upon starting. I won't be uploading this one. | 01:37 |
| soee_ | ha :D | 01:40 |
| soee_ | nvidia devs are aware of this problems ? | 01:40 |
| mamarley | I don't think so, but I will let them know. | 01:41 |
| soee_ | cool, thank you. | 01:41 |
| mamarley | The KDE crash handler also gets quite a detailed stacktrace that should be helpful. | 01:42 |
| soee_ | so they never test drivers before release ? | 01:44 |
| soee_ | like test on various DE? | 01:44 |
| mamarley | soee_: I have no idea what their testing is like, but I'm pretty sure they didn't test this one on KF5/Plasma5. This is a beta release and not a final, so... | 01:46 |
| soee_ | yup, but i think beta requires even more tests :) | 01:46 |
| * mamarley is apparently the guineapig here. :) | 01:47 | |
| mamarley | soee_: If you are interested: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/908506/linux/many-essential-kde-applications-sddm-krunner-plasmashell-segfault-on-startup-with-361-16/ | 01:59 |
| yofel | clivejo: sorry, fell asleep. Your knavalbattle buildlog sounds like you are missing "include" at the beginning of line 3 | 04:45 |
| soee | yofel: black screen when logging out or shutting down system, black screen after playmouth and before sddm - this is plasma fault or ubuntu ? | 05:00 |
| yofel | soee: could you please try sddm 0.13 from ppa:yofel/ppa and see if that works? (and disable the ppa after that) | 05:01 |
| yofel | I believe it's some error between sddm and qt 5.5 or something like that | 05:02 |
| soee | sure, give me few minutes | 05:02 |
| ScottK | yofel: I think we fixed that in sddm 0.13 packaging. | 05:04 |
| soee | yofel: done. all works as expected i think. Rebooting, logging, logout->login | 05:06 |
| yofel | great | 05:07 |
| soee | one thing i have noticed is that sddm now starts much faster when booting | 05:07 |
| yofel | ScottK: thanks, that's what I heard, I just didn't get to test it myself yet | 05:07 |
| soee | so the time plymouth->sddm is lower | 05:07 |
| yofel | sweet | 05:07 |
| ScottK | That's thanks to the libsystemd-pam integration. | 05:09 |
| yofel | aaaah | 05:09 |
| soee | still i dream some get we get rid of this black holes between each element | 05:11 |
| soee | grub -> black screen with white sign for 1 sec -> plymouth -> black screen with some error messages -> sddm | 05:12 |
| soee | session -> logout -> black screen with cursor -> black screen -> sddm | 05:13 |
| yofel | *blink* | 05:20 |
| yofel | the new apt sure got a lot more efficient with updating pkg lists | 05:20 |
| soee | yup | 05:29 |
| soee | yofel: Frameworsk 5.17 are done ? | 05:31 |
| yofel | note quite, still fiddling with oxygen-icons | 05:31 |
| soee | ah, ok | 05:31 |
| yofel | but that's the last thing | 05:32 |
| soee | hmm where should i report missing translation: http://wstaw.org/m/2016/01/06/snapshot47.png ? | 05:35 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.4.3: W/PPA 5.5.2: W/TODO X/WIP, Apps 15.08.3: W/PPA, 15.12.0: W/TODO X/WIP, FW 5.17: W/TODO X/WIP | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | No, plasma 5.5 isn't packaged yet | ||
| yofel | apps 15.08.3 released to ppa | 05:41 |
| soee | +1 | 05:43 |
| soee | backports or archive ? | 05:43 |
| yofel | updates ppa | 05:44 |
| yofel | archive whenever I actually get to that | 05:44 |
| soee | mparillo: maybe some announcement ^ | 05:44 |
| yofel | or a motu | 05:44 |
| yofel | let me actually try to write the announcement, I *should* have permission for that | 05:45 |
| soee | :) | 05:45 |
| yofel | sddm uploaded to archive | 05:56 |
| soee | nice :) | 05:57 |
| soee | we should somehow fix this plasmashell crash when checking updates | 05:59 |
| soee | it also happens when system checks for update sin the background | 06:00 |
| yofel | right, there's a trigger for the updates display that's crashing it | 06:00 |
| yofel | I don't know where that is though | 06:01 |
| yofel | soee: can you see this? https://kubuntu.org/?p=2478&preview=true | 06:09 |
| yofel | now lets test if this oxygen trickery actually works | 06:10 |
| soee | yofel: no | 06:11 |
| yofel | meh | 06:11 |
| yofel | soee: as I really just want a text opinion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14417935/ | 06:12 |
| soee | yofel: looks good, valorie ^can you also check it ? | 06:14 |
| valorie | reading | 06:14 |
| valorie | I suggest for the first couple of paragraphs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14417955/ | 06:19 |
| valorie | slight changes from yours | 06:19 |
| yofel | ack, that's nicer | 06:20 |
| yofel | thanks | 06:20 |
| * valorie {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} yofel | 06:21 | |
| valorie | you've been a brick | 06:21 |
| yofel | with that we can finally get rid of our missing news bug ^^ | 06:21 |
| valorie | yes! | 06:21 |
| valorie | I was thinking of that this morning | 06:22 |
| yofel | Now let me wait for the publisher to actually put the 15.08.3 binaries in the ppa, then I'll press publish | 06:22 |
| yofel | and the moment I say that, it finishes... | 06:23 |
| valorie | \o/ | 06:23 |
| yofel | ok, oxygen-icons provides seems to do the job, but this will need forcing somewhere to actually get installed | 06:30 |
| yofel | Published | 06:35 |
| valorie | yay! | 06:36 |
| soee | yofel: can you remove paragraph tag around ppa, and add center style on blockqute ? | 06:37 |
| soee | now this paragraph edds extra margin | 06:37 |
| yofel | good point, that looks weird | 06:38 |
| yofel | meh, something adds the paragraph anyway | 06:39 |
| soee | :/ | 06:40 |
| yofel | let me just force the margin to 0 | 06:40 |
| yofel | there we go | 06:40 |
| soee | :) | 06:40 |
| soee | mparillo: spreed the word through social media | 06:44 |
| yofel | now where was I.. | 06:45 |
| soee | ah another good news for me: Web developers rejoice; Internet Explorer 8, 9 and 10 die on Tuesday :D | 06:45 |
| yofel | \o/ | 06:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | how do they die? | 06:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | great job yofel | 06:46 |
| soee | microsoft wont publish any updates for them anymore | 06:46 |
| soee | so soon they will be unsafe etc. | 06:46 |
| soee | http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2016/01/05/web-developers-rejoice-internet-explorer-8-9-and-10-die-on-tuesday/ | 06:46 |
| yofel | well, that leaves us to support zombies :P | 06:46 |
| soee | :D | 06:47 |
| soee | i think we can remove 15.08.3 infor from topic | 06:47 |
| soee | *to make it cleaner | 06:48 |
| yofel | not until the SRU is out | 06:48 |
| soee | oh | 06:48 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: do you think you could look into uploading plasma and apps to wily-proposed sometime? The packageset for wily is so broken that I don't think fixing it is worth the trouble | 06:49 |
| soee | we should concentrate on 16.04 :) | 06:50 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.4.3: W/PPA 5.5.2: X/WIP, Apps 15.08.3: W/PPA, 15.12.0: X/WIP, FW 5.17: X/WIP | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | No, plasma 5.5 isn't packaged yet | ||
| yofel | I removed the TODOs, we know that even without that being written there | 06:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've published the news on our official social media: G+ FB TW | 06:51 |
| soee | ovidiu-florin: cool, thank you | 06:51 |
| yofel | thanks! | 06:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't have access to linkedin | 06:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: ^ | 06:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: I see there are some problems with kwin, can you tell me something about them, so that I'm also in the loop? | 06:58 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: there are? | 06:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | besides the problem on my desktop right now | 06:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm reffering tot the packaging | 06:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | or have they been resolved? | 06:59 |
| yofel | I don't think there's anything left with kwin | 06:59 |
| yofel | plasma is done except for the lib mess in discover and the requried ksnapshot 15.12 | 06:59 |
| * soee thinks plasma 5.5 has ugly highlights in task manager :/ | 06:59 | |
| yofel | I'm just looking at ECM docs, but that's shipping embedeed JS :( | 07:00 |
| yofel | W: extra-cmake-modules: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/doc/ECM/html/_static/jquery.js please use libjs-jquery | 07:00 |
| yofel | W: extra-cmake-modules: embedded-javascript-library usr/share/doc/ECM/html/_static/underscore.js please use libjs-underscore | 07:00 |
| valorie | updating right now | 07:00 |
| soee | valorie: plasma ? | 07:01 |
| valorie | I added the kubuntu-ppa and and did the usual | 07:01 |
| valorie | just as our story advised | 07:02 |
| yofel | ah well, nobody reads the shipped ECM docs anyway | 07:03 |
| valorie | restarting | 07:04 |
| valorie | looking good! | 07:07 |
| yofel | so I guess frameworks is.. done... | 07:07 |
| yofel | let me make a note about the icon rename though | 07:07 |
| soee | yofel: apps are also problematic this time ? | 07:15 |
| yofel | well, a couple of them | 07:15 |
| yofel | although most of the red comes from too old frameworks | 07:16 |
| yofel | I copied that over earlier and am retrying things now | 07:16 |
| soee | ah good to know :) | 07:16 |
| valorie | that sounds hopeful | 07:16 |
| yofel | sgclark: could you please add the current "official" backports workflow to the KA readme? | 07:26 |
| yofel | I don't really get how you're supposed to do that | 07:27 |
| valorie | question: is xenial updated now? | 07:50 |
| valorie | if so, I could test on my travel lappy | 07:50 |
| yofel | the archive? not for a long time | 07:50 |
| valorie | ok | 07:50 |
| yofel | I can put frameworks into the landing ppa if you want to test that, that's ~safe | 07:50 |
| valorie | maybe tomorrow | 07:51 |
| yofel | might even put plasma there. discover can't be uploaded in its state, but that's purely policy issues | 07:51 |
| valorie | so it's mostly applications which have to wait? | 07:51 |
| yofel | yes | 07:51 |
| yofel | and figuring out autopackagetest stuff in proposed | 07:52 |
| valorie | once you've done that, perhaps put out a call for testing? | 07:52 |
| valorie | would be cool to have a base for the applications to test against, right? | 07:53 |
| soee | im on Plasma 5.5.2 and Frameworks 5.17 since week :D | 07:53 |
| valorie | what are you running, soee? | 07:53 |
| soee | valorie: Kubuntu Xenial | 07:54 |
| valorie | but with what ppa? | 07:54 |
| valorie | s | 07:54 |
| valorie | I've not upgraded that lappy for a few weeks | 07:54 |
| soee | staging-* | 07:54 |
| valorie | ah | 07:54 |
| soee | i'm using builds we have there atm | 07:55 |
| yofel | reminder again: don't use staging unless you're prepared to enter dpkg commands at some point | 07:58 |
| soee | yes i'm aware of that :) | 07:58 |
| * soee thinks it is boring when everything works just fine ... | 07:59 | |
| yofel | I'm fine with minor breakage personally, I'm just not fine if we end up doing package changes where you have to manually downgrade stuff to get your dependencies working again etc. | 07:59 |
| yofel | which does happen in staging | 08:00 |
| soee | frameworks didn't help a lot building apps | 08:02 |
| yofel | well, they're failing for proper reasons now | 08:02 |
| yofel | :/ | 08:02 |
| yofel | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiCore.so.4.89.0: undefined reference to `typeinfo for Akonadi::Protocol::Command' | 09:14 |
| yofel | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libKF5AkonadiCore.so.4.89.0: undefined reference to `Akonadi::Protocol::SelectCollectionCommand::SelectCollectionCommand(Akonadi::Scope const&)' | 09:14 |
| yofel | collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status | 09:14 |
| yofel | I think our current apps packages are junk... | 09:14 |
| RoninLIfe | hey | 09:38 |
| yofel | hi | 09:51 |
| clivejo | yofel: I have include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/3/debian-qt-kde.mk in the rules | 10:25 |
| clivejo | yofel: the current apps packaging are junk? | 10:26 |
| clivejo | I been wasting my time this past few days on junk?!? | 10:26 |
| soee | yofel: 4:2015.12-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1 version set this way because of spectacle ? | 10:27 |
| soee | *ksnapshot | 10:27 |
| yofel | soee: that's what upstream went with for the last ksnapshot release... | 10:28 |
| yofel | it's the plasma 5.5 compatibility one | 10:28 |
| soee | ah, ok :) | 10:28 |
| yofel | otherwise printscreen won't work | 10:28 |
| yofel | until spectacle is done | 10:28 |
| soee | and spectacle is planned for 5.6 ? | 10:28 |
| yofel | it's in apps 15.12 | 10:28 |
| soee | uhm | 10:28 |
| yofel | not done yet | 10:29 |
| yofel | clivejo: I'm just wondering how akonadi-search would fail like that | 10:29 |
| yofel | clivejo: and the only idea that I can come up with is akonadi+FW5.15 + akonadi-search+FW5.17 -> boom | 10:29 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: I added you to kubuntu company on linkedin | 10:30 |
| yofel | clivejo: why didn't you copy frameworks before you uploaded apps? | 10:30 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: thank you | 10:31 |
| clivejo | yofel: I didnt know :/ | 10:31 |
| BluesKaj | HI folks | 10:31 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: I miss you :D | 10:31 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: come to fosdem then :) | 10:31 |
| yofel | clivejo: I think for now we can continue with things as they are, I'll just upload an akonadi rebuild as a test | 10:32 |
| yofel | clivejo: once we have FW 5.18 done we'll have to do a rebuild test anyway | 10:32 |
| clivejo | I thought (probably assumed) that the apps staging paa would have the frameworks and plasma staging as included PPA's | 10:32 |
| yofel | I removed any deps from all ppas | 10:32 |
| clivejo | oh | 10:33 |
| yofel | they depend on the primary archive with proposed, nothing more | 10:33 |
| clivejo | did they used to? | 10:33 |
| clivejo | just wondering where I got that idea from | 10:33 |
| yofel | they did | 10:33 |
| yofel | which makes the idea of having seperate ppas useless if work in one PPA has side-effects on work in another | 10:34 |
| clivejo | sorry, I didnt know that | 10:34 |
| clivejo | but it explains a few things | 10:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: I'm just an employee now | 10:34 |
| yofel | they also depended on a bunch of other PPAs that nobody seemed to remember and then people were wondering why they have strange build results | 10:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't have posting rights | 10:34 |
| yofel | so now we work in pristine environments. If you need something from other PPAs, copy it | 10:35 |
| clivejo | Kubuntu is a comapny? | 10:35 |
| yofel | it is on linkedin | 10:35 |
| soee | Riddell: releasing 5.5.3 today ? | 10:35 |
| yofel | that's the only thing they understand ^^ | 10:35 |
| clivejo | a virtual one, or a real one? | 10:35 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: try now | 10:35 |
| clivejo | grrrr, someone please please help me with knavalbattle, its driving me crazy | 10:36 |
| clivejo | I know its something simple, but I cant see it! | 10:36 |
| yofel | sec | 10:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: thank you | 10:37 |
| yofel | clivejo: you broke the control file | 10:38 |
| yofel | protip: use a text editor with syntax highlighting ;) | 10:39 |
| clivejo | where did I break it? | 10:40 |
| yofel | I'll leave finding that out to you as a leaning experience | 10:40 |
| yofel | *learning | 10:40 |
| clivejo | you evil man! | 10:40 |
| yofel | :P | 10:41 |
| yofel | I already gave you a tip | 10:41 |
| yofel | should be fairly easy to spot as the syntax is invalid | 10:41 |
| clivejo | what text editor offers syntax highlighing? | 10:41 |
| yofel | I personally use vim, but it seem like kate works too for this | 10:42 |
| clivejo | should wrap-and-sort not fix that? | 10:43 |
| Riddell | soee: I'll check with plasma devs to see if they're happy | 10:43 |
| yofel | it can only work on stuff that it can read, and for that the syntax needs to be correct | 10:44 |
| clivejo | is that it? | 10:44 |
| clivejo | a space | 10:44 |
| yofel | yep | 10:44 |
| yofel | Sections start at char 1 of a line, not 2 | 10:44 |
| clivejo | **** **** ******** **** **** of a thing | 10:44 |
| yofel | ^^ | 10:44 |
| soee | if someone can confirm, please do: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=357613 | 10:45 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 357613 in notifier "Misleading notification after updates installation" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 10:45 |
| clivejo | thats been bugging me all yesterday evening and even had a dream/nightmare about it | 10:45 |
| Odur | Isn't Apps 15.08.3 complete? http://pastebin.com/W7mpHWtB | 10:46 |
| yofel | to span the bridge between that and your error: there were simply no build-deps defined | 10:46 |
| yofel | Odur: yes? | 10:46 |
| Odur | yofel: Just wonder because I see some 15.08.2 apps (eg telepathy) still in my installation after updating. | 10:47 |
| yofel | Odur: we don't update packages that weren't changed in bugfix updates | 10:48 |
| yofel | that's why you still have a lot of .2 packages | 10:48 |
| Odur | Oh, that explains a lot. Thanks :) | 10:49 |
| clivejo | yofel: did you copy in the required frameworks to apps 15.12.0? | 10:50 |
| yofel | I just copied everything | 10:50 |
| yofel | although, I deleted breeze-icons later, but I don't think we need that | 10:50 |
| clivejo | have you a script to rebuild everything? | 10:50 |
| yofel | theoretically yes, but I would postpone that until we have 5.18 done, for now there's lots of other stuff to fix | 10:51 |
| yofel | oh right, I wanted to upload akonadi | 10:51 |
| clivejo | have you staged FW 5.18 yet? | 10:52 |
| yofel | nope, was still finishing something in 5.17 | 10:52 |
| yofel | let me copy that to landing, then we can stage that | 10:53 |
| clivejo | *shakes head* hurry up :P | 10:53 |
| soee | :) | 10:53 |
| yofel | copied, go ahead | 10:55 |
| === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly computing | Plasma 5.4.3: W/PPA 5.5.2: X/WIP, Apps 15.08.3: W/PPA, 15.12.0: X/WIP, FW 5.18: X/WIP | https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | Package Docs (WIP) https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-packaging | No, plasma 5.5 isn't packaged yet | ||
| yofel | s/5.17/5.18 | 10:58 |
| soee | frameworks 5.18 were released ? | 10:58 |
| yofel | release is on saturday, but tarballs are up | 10:59 |
| soee | ahh.. :) | 10:59 |
| mparillo | I am reading the backlog and am pleased to see the link to: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-4-3-and-applications-15-08-3-for-kubuntu-15-10/ Previously (http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=424), I had noted that 5.4.3 was available in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports. Is ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa closer to the 'regular updates channel'? | 11:00 |
| yofel | yes | 11:00 |
| yofel | and with that I mean wily-updates | 11:02 |
| soee | yofel: can we lso do some cleanup and remove from status pages all outdated entries? | 11:04 |
| yofel | I think that's really something that the cronjob should be doing | 11:05 |
| yofel | feel free to send a patch | 11:05 |
| soee | where is the whole script ? :D | 11:06 |
| yofel | that's what's called by cron: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/ppa-build-status-cron | 11:07 |
| soee | sofpedia spreads the word: http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-15-10-gets-plasma-5-4-3-and-applications-15-08-3-498510.shtml | 11:12 |
| RoninLIfe | hey xD | 11:12 |
| yofel | hi again | 11:13 |
| * yofel realizes that he still didn't upload akonadi | 11:13 | |
| yofel | done | 11:14 |
| soee | RoninLIfe: say sometgin more :D we already know you know "hi/hey" word :) | 11:14 |
| RoninLIfe | i tryed to but you kept disconnecting yesterday | 11:16 |
| RoninLIfe | haha | 11:16 |
| acher88 | excellent efforts people :) | 11:17 |
| RoninLIfe | Soee | 11:17 |
| soee | ah i see :) | 11:18 |
| RoninLIfe | Thanks for the source code | 11:18 |
| RoninLIfe | im going to do it | 11:18 |
| soee | yofel: and this file kubuntu-ppa-build-status-cron.conf ? | 11:20 |
| yofel | soee: e.g. https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git/kubuntu-automation/tree/build-status-conf/applications.conf | 11:21 |
| yofel | I think all you need to do is list all files in the status dir, grep -v the current version and delete everything else | 11:23 |
| soee | i never did anything like those scripts :) so i first have to get familiar with it | 11:24 |
| yofel | it's just a shell script, and shell scripting is always good to know ;) | 11:25 |
| yofel | The following packages will be REMOVED: | 11:32 |
| yofel | breeze kgamma5 kubuntu-desktop libkf5activitiesexperimentalstats1 plasma-desktop plasma-widgets-addons | 11:32 |
| yofel | eeek | 11:32 |
| yofel | ah great, frameworks 5.17 isn't installable without plasma 5.5 | 11:33 |
| * clivejo face palms | 11:38 | |
| clivejo | @KCC you should be the ones making the announces, not softpedia et al :P | 11:40 |
| * clivejo dreams of a time where kubuntu.org is the first and last stop regarding all things Kubuntu | 11:41 | |
| yofel | clivejo: that IS our news :P https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-4-3-and-applications-15-08-3-for-kubuntu-15-10 | 11:41 |
| clivejo | congrats!!!! | 11:42 |
| * yofel wonders what that ark test failure is trying to tell him o.O | 11:43 | |
| * clivejo has wondered that too | 11:44 | |
| clivejo | is it a missing desktop file? | 11:44 |
| yofel | not sure, it's talking about a .menu file, but that's for debians ancient custom menu system... | 11:44 |
| * yofel goes reading the test | 11:45 | |
| clivejo | we have a tests folder in the packaging | 11:46 |
| clivejo | could that be changing something | 11:46 |
| yofel | that should be autopkgtest stuff I think? | 11:46 |
| yofel | I wonder what changed, the 15.08 test runs fine | 11:55 |
| clivejo | kerfuffle | 11:56 |
| clivejo | means" a commotion or fuss, especially one caused by conflicting views." | 11:56 |
| yofel | lol | 11:57 |
| clivejo | aptly named | 11:59 |
| yofel | hm, lots of changes since 15.08 in ark, but the kde ci builds are fine | 11:59 |
| clivejo | that is strange# | 12:00 |
| clivejo | yofel: which CI builds are fine? | 12:10 |
| yofel | https://build.kde.org/job/ark%20Applications-15.12%20stable-kf5-qt5/ | 12:10 |
| yofel | this might be something we have to autopkgtest, as you might need ark INSTALLED to run the test | 12:12 |
| yofel | lets test that idea | 12:12 |
| yofel | yep, that work | 12:13 |
| yofel | s | 12:13 |
| * yofel disables tests at build-time | 12:13 | |
| yofel | and akonadi-search still doesn't build | 12:25 |
| * clivejo kicks akonadi | 12:26 | |
| yofel | oh | 12:29 |
| yofel | Not in PPA: kde-baseapps, kdepim, kdepim-runtime, kdepimlibs, libkdcraw, marble, spectacle, kde-l10n, | 12:29 |
| yofel | kdepimlibs missing might actually be relevant here | 12:29 |
| clivejo | I dont undertsand the PIM | 12:30 |
| clivejo | they are in the manual folder | 12:31 |
| yofel | someone obviously didn't update the versions in CMakeLists.txt | 12:31 |
| yofel | if I build akonadi-search locally it just plain doesn't compile | 12:31 |
| yofel | let me upload the pim stuff | 12:32 |
| yofel | you didn't update the versions in packaging-exceptions.json, so the script probably failed | 12:32 |
| yofel | actually, I think I didn't do that either last time... | 12:32 |
| yofel | well, kdepimlibs here I come | 12:33 |
| yofel | kdepimlibs and kde-baseapps up | 12:39 |
| yofel | kdepim up | 12:40 |
| yofel | kdepim-runtime up | 12:41 |
| yofel | libkdcraw up | 12:42 |
| yofel | marble up | 12:44 |
| yofel | - _ZN7Akonadi13MessageStatusaSERKS0_@Base 15.07.90 | 12:58 |
| yofel | +#MISSING: 4:15.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1# _ZN7Akonadi13MessageStatusaSERKS0_@Base 15.07.90 | 12:58 |
| yofel | *sigh* | 12:58 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: sure, if you can tell me the command I need to run | 13:00 |
| yofel | heh, I'll tell you once I remember that myself | 13:01 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 13:01 |
| clivejo | yofel: is on fire today! | 13:01 |
| yofel | Remove MessageStatus::operator= [-Wclazy-rule-of-two] | 13:08 |
| yofel | The auto-generated one is fine and the class didn't implement a | 13:08 |
| yofel | copy-ctor. | 13:08 |
| yofel | are we the only people that care about the ABI -.-? | 13:08 |
| clivejo | yofel: I care cause you care :) | 13:09 |
| yofel | you would care for other reasons as well once an application crashes on you because someone broke the ABI in a lib | 13:09 |
| clivejo | I dont understand ABI :/ | 13:10 |
| * yofel remembers qt4.6 *shudder* | 13:10 | |
| yofel | clivejo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_binary_interface | 13:11 |
| clivejo | yeah, but I dont know how it works in packaging | 13:12 |
| yofel | magic | 13:12 |
| clivejo | dark magic is seems | 13:12 |
| clivejo | it | 13:12 |
| sheytan | So guys. 5.4.3 just released as updates, and what about 5.5? | 13:22 |
| sheytan | It's a long time already after the release | 13:23 |
| clivejo | sheytan: working on it | 13:23 |
| clivejo | WIP | 13:23 |
| sheytan | any release date? | 13:23 |
| clivejo | ASAP | 13:23 |
| clivejo | once the problems are fixed | 13:24 |
| yofel | actually, let me copy it to landing, muon needs fixing, but nothing that will screw people over | 13:24 |
| * clivejo hi-fives yofel | 13:24 | |
| yofel | clivejo: did you look at 5.18? | 13:25 |
| clivejo | yofel: no, Im working on artikulate | 13:25 |
| yofel | ok, then I'll upload it | 13:25 |
| clivejo | Its building locally but failing autotests | 13:25 |
| clivejo | 1/2 Test #2: TestLanguageFiles ................***Exception: Other 0.47 sec | 13:25 |
| clivejo | QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display | 13:25 |
| clivejo | I need to test with that fake frame buffer? | 13:26 |
| yofel | yep | 13:26 |
| clivejo | remind me again how we did that! | 13:26 |
| yofel | override_dh_auto_test: | 13:26 |
| yofel | xvfb-run dh_auto_test | 13:26 |
| * clivejo takes notes this time | 13:26 | |
| yofel | and don't forget the build-dep | 13:27 |
| clivejo | whats the dep again? | 13:28 |
| yofel | can't remember, try dpkg -S xvfb-run or so | 13:28 |
| clivejo | !info xvfb | 13:29 |
| ubottu | xvfb (source: xorg-server): Virtual Framebuffer 'fake' X server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.17.2-1ubuntu9.1 (wily), package size 800 kB, installed size 2330 kB | 13:29 |
| yofel | moszumanska is as slow as always... | 13:32 |
| clivejo | yofel: once I exit out of a pbuild, are the files I was working on saved ? | 13:33 |
| yofel | no | 13:33 |
| clivejo | I forgot to copy the control file | 13:33 |
| clivejo | grr | 13:33 |
| yofel | o.O | 13:35 |
| yofel | - extra-cmake-modules (>= 5.16.0~), | 13:35 |
| yofel | + extra-cmake-modules (>= 5.17.0~), | 13:35 |
| yofel | I'm uploading 5.18, wth does this script do.. | 13:35 |
| yofel | we have a versions.json, seriously... | 13:35 |
| yofel | no, that still doesn't do what it's supposed to do | 13:38 |
| clivejo | :/ | 13:40 |
| yofel | great, our scripts have a chicken and egg problem | 13:42 |
| yofel | dev-package-name-lists can only update the lists with versions that are in git, those are then used to bump build-deps during staging-upload | 13:43 |
| yofel | but as that adds a new version, the deps are already wrong | 13:43 |
| clivejo | yofel: artikulate is still failing the tests :( | 13:45 |
| clivejo | FAIL! : TestCourseFiles::fileLoadSaveCompleteness() 'manager.courseResources(manager.languageResources().first()->language()).count() == 1' returned FALSE. () | 13:45 |
| clivejo | Loc: [../../autotests/testcoursefiles.cpp(86)] | 13:45 |
| clivejo | no idea what that means | 13:45 |
| clivejo | Ill commit the fixes Ive done so far and upload to PPA | 13:45 |
| yofel | it looks like santa's changes broke the existing workflow | 13:46 |
| clivejo | not good :( | 13:49 |
| yofel | let me monkey patch stuff | 13:49 |
| yofel | meh, too complicated, I'll just edit stuff by hand | 13:52 |
| * clivejo has to go do some plumbing, yofel will you have a look at artikulate ppa3 when its finsihed building and let me know what it is complaining about! | 13:52 | |
| yofel | if I get to it, sure | 13:52 |
| clivejo | and if there are easy fixes, make a list and Ill do them later | 13:53 |
| clivejo | easy fixes = something I can do! | 13:53 |
| yofel | now let me try to update to plasma 5.5 | 13:54 |
| yofel | Unpacking plasma-desktop-data (4:5.5.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2) over (4:5.4.3-0ubuntu1) ... | 13:57 |
| yofel | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/plasma-desktop-data_4%3a5.5.2-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack): | 13:57 |
| yofel | trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/kcm_device_automounter.mo', which is also in package kde-l10n-engb 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 | 13:57 |
| yofel | oh right, there was that -.- | 13:57 |
| bshah | will there be version bump for kf5? | 13:58 |
| yofel | yes | 13:59 |
| bshah | okay... /me postpones updating frameworks for mobile I | 14:01 |
| bshah | *CI | 14:01 |
| yofel | I'm just generating the packages, so the bump should be committed in an ~hour | 14:01 |
| yofel | Riddell: regarding above overwrite error, does kde plan to abandon the l10n packs? | 14:15 |
| Riddell | yofel: l10n packs are still part of kde applications releases | 14:16 |
| Riddell | just not frameworks and plasma | 14:16 |
| yofel | why are plasma and FW not using them? | 14:16 |
| Riddell | because they're not released along with applications | 14:17 |
| Riddell | you could argue we could have plasma-l10n and fw-l10n tars but I think it becomes more bother than its worth then | 14:17 |
| Riddell | arguably it already is | 14:17 |
| yofel | you could just release l10n every time you release something.. | 14:17 |
| yofel | but nvm | 14:17 |
| yofel | just that moving stuff out of l10n means that we need to break/replace ALL l10n packages | 14:18 |
| Riddell | yofel: kde-l10n-common has debian/overlapping-files | 14:18 |
| Riddell | which should remove files that are moved out | 14:18 |
| yofel | Riddell: and that helps me how in this case? | 14:19 |
| Riddell | it should remove it from kde-l10n-engb 4:15.08.2-0ubuntu1 but indeed it would still need a replace/break | 14:20 |
| yofel | right | 14:20 |
| Odur | What's the diffrent status colours on the build status page? Red=failed, green=OK i think. But blue and orange? | 14:29 |
| yofel | blue: not yet built for various reaons | 14:29 |
| yofel | orange: has issues, but nothing that completely breaks the package | 14:30 |
| Odur | issues like linitian errors? | 14:30 |
| yofel | lintian, new symbols, stuff like that, yeah | 14:30 |
| Odur | Ok, thanks :) Trying to learn about your workflow in the background :) | 14:31 |
| yofel | bshah: kf5 5.18 committed | 14:46 |
| bshah | awesomio | 14:47 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| genii | I'm looking at /etc/init.d/sddm and see HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER= option. But I'm not clear if setting this for lightdm will prevent sddm from running or if it will still load but defer to lightdm. Does anyone know? | 15:25 |
| genii | ( right now both are loading anyways) | 15:26 |
| * genii looks over at shadeslayer | 15:28 | |
| genii | Guess I'll have to experiment | 15:37 |
| yofel | genii: you'll probably rather have to figure out how /lib/systemd/system/sddm.service etc. works | 15:39 |
| genii | yofel: This may require more coffee then... | 15:39 |
| * genii goes to make a fresh batch | 15:39 | |
| yofel | the postinst script also has some complex default-display-manager handling related to systemd | 15:40 |
| genii | For a "Simple Desktop Display Manager" this thing is quite complex | 15:42 |
| yofel | about as simple as lightdm is "light" | 15:43 |
| genii | Touche ;) | 15:43 |
| shadeslayer | genii: I'd think that debconf selections disables sddm when you enable lightdm | 15:48 |
| shadeslayer | and vice versa | 15:48 |
| genii | shadeslayer: I originally started with sddm but because I have a dead screen on my laptop and it wants to span displays I couldn't login and had to switch to lightdm where it has separate login for each. But ps shows both running for some reason ( although lightdm is what I'm seeing on the external screen and how I'm loggin in) | 15:53 |
| shadeslayer | huh | 15:54 |
| shadeslayer | that's odd | 15:54 |
| mamarley | genii: sddm 0.13 actually puts the login prompt on all displays for me. | 15:55 |
| genii | mamarley: Ah, I've got 0.11 (Vivid) | 15:58 |
| genii | ..wanted to get my inverter replaced before I go to Wily or Xenial in case I have to wrestle with display managers over ssh again | 15:59 |
| yofel | he sensed the question slowly crawling near him from the shadows ^^ | 16:01 |
| genii | Heh | 16:01 |
| genii | Maybe dpkg-reconfigure gdm doesn't stop sddm from running or something | 16:02 |
| genii | s/gdm/lightdm | 16:03 |
| yofel | meh, our epoch handling was broken again | 16:46 |
| yofel | (also partly affects fw 5.17) | 16:46 |
| yofel | namely: plasma-framework, sonnet, solid and threadweaver | 16:47 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: there were 2 env variables to be set for debian packagind | 17:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | one with name and one with email | 17:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | DEBEMAIL is one | 17:11 |
| ovidiu-florin | what's the other? | 17:11 |
| yofel | DEBFULLNAME | 17:11 |
| clivejo | yofel: I see fw 5.18.0 but no uploads yet? | 17:14 |
| yofel | I had to emergency delete everything | 17:14 |
| yofel | the packages ended up with epoch | 17:14 |
| clivejo | eakk | 17:14 |
| clivejo | how? | 17:14 |
| yofel | I made a mistake when I removed the epoch blacklisting for frameworks | 17:15 |
| clivejo | yofel is human after all :P | 17:15 |
| yofel | and I suffer like one, I also had to delete stuff from the CI to fix it -.- | 17:16 |
| yofel | for some reason only 4 of the 5.17 packages are broken as well | 17:16 |
| clivejo | but the delete is so weird in LP | 17:16 |
| clivejo | will have cause you problems uploading again? | 17:16 |
| yofel | I tried re-uploading, but everything got rejected because of file conflicts thanks to the slow janitor | 17:17 |
| yofel | building another set right now | 17:17 |
| clivejo | can staging generate ppa2 automatically? | 17:17 |
| * genii makes some really strong coffee and passes the mugs around | 17:17 | |
| clivejo | the staging script I mean | 17:17 |
| yofel | not that I know of, I'm scripting that by hand | 17:18 |
| clivejo | eakkk | 17:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: wait, yofel is human? | 17:18 |
| clivejo | apparently so | 17:18 |
| yofel | 0100010111010010011 | 17:18 |
| clivejo | I thought he was a machine | 17:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | so did I | 17:19 |
| clivejo | the yofel bot | 17:19 |
| yofel | right | 17:19 |
| yofel | !botsnack | 17:19 |
| ubottu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 17:19 |
| clivejo | LOL# | 17:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | what happened to kubottu ? | 17:20 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: ready for the meeting ? | 17:20 |
| yofel | what meeting? | 17:21 |
| clivejo | LOL | 17:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | Core meeting before the podcast | 17:21 |
| clivejo | the core one | 17:21 |
| yofel | not really.. | 17:21 |
| clivejo | tonight | 17:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: I want to hear you as well | 17:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | perhaps even see you | 17:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | so I know how you look | 17:21 |
| clivejo | hear me? | 17:21 |
| clivejo | you wont be able to understand me! | 17:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | no problem | 17:22 |
| ovidiu-florin | you can spreak gibberish | 17:22 |
| clivejo | and my webcam is broke, accidently on purpose | 17:22 |
| ovidiu-florin | it's enough to make a synthetizer with your voice :P | 17:22 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: DEBEMAIL and DEBFULLNAME are set, but when I run dch it does not add the email and timestamp | 17:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | yofel: as you can see in https://paste.kde.org/pord0vftl | 17:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | what am I missing? | 17:27 |
| yofel | it won't do it if it edits an existing UNRELEASED changelog, then it'll just add a new section with your DEBFULLNAME | 17:27 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok, then can you just use the pastebin ^^ | 17:28 |
| ovidiu-florin | ? | 17:28 |
| yofel | probably | 17:28 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/knavalbattle.git/tree/debian/changelog?h=kubuntu_xenial_archive | 17:29 |
| yofel | uploading the next attempt at fw5.18 | 17:30 |
| clivejo | attempt number two acknowledged | 17:30 |
| yofel | now it's accepting stuff, finally | 17:30 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: also the install files list | 17:30 |
| clivejo | thats the diff you sent, its commited to debian now | 17:31 |
| clivejo | and the package is green | 17:31 |
| clivejo | there was a space before Build-dep line in control file, but I think that was my fault | 17:32 |
| clivejo | which was causing it to fail | 17:32 |
| ovidiu-florin | I looked through the log, it's all there | 17:33 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: wanna do libkdcraw? | 17:34 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: I want to know I I can get commit access | 17:36 |
| yofel | soee: so stuff ended up being busted anyway. You'll have to force-downgrade this, but only once we're done with 5.18: | 17:37 |
| yofel | libkf5sonnet-dev libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5sonnet5-data sonnet-plugins libkf5sonnet5-dbg plasma-framework-dev plasma-framework libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5plasma5 plasma-framework-dbg libkf5solid-dev libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5solid-bin qtdeclarative5-kf5solid qml-module-org-kde-solid libkf5solid5-dbg libkf5threadweaver-dev libkf5threadweaver5 libkf5threadweaver5-dbg | 17:37 |
| clivejo | need to do a few and get one of us to commit | 17:37 |
| yofel | probably easiest to dpkg --force-depends -r them and figure stuff out with apt install -f | 17:37 |
| clivejo | what is up with ECM? | 17:47 |
| yofel | what do you mean? | 17:47 |
| clivejo | they always seem to fail | 17:47 |
| yofel | unstable != fail | 17:47 |
| clivejo | yet they seem to build sucessfully | 17:48 |
| yofel | there's a KCI-W in ecm | 17:48 |
| clivejo | yofel: are you still uploading? | 17:48 |
| yofel | no | 17:48 |
| clivejo | Not in PPA: kactivities-kf5, kdesu, kdnssd-kf5, kfilemetadata-kf5, kwallet-kf5, | 17:49 |
| yofel | ok, let me look for those | 17:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | unstable = ??? | 17:49 |
| yofel | ovidiu-florin: warning level in kci | 17:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok, ty | 17:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | do we have a legent written somewhere for what the colors mean in build status pages? | 17:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | legend* | 17:50 |
| yofel | no | 17:50 |
| yofel | I think we had ages ago | 17:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok, I'll make one now in the notes | 17:50 |
| yofel | blue: not built yet (needs building, depwait, building, uploading, ...) | 17:51 |
| yofel | red: FTBFS or otherwise very broken | 17:51 |
| yofel | orange: minor things like lintian warnings, new symbols, etc. | 17:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | green ? | 17:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | what's FTBFS ? | 17:54 |
| yofel | failed to build from source | 17:54 |
| yofel | well, green is "ok" | 17:54 |
| yofel | or at least auto-qa ok | 17:54 |
| ovidiu-florin | what's auto-qa? | 17:55 |
| yofel | automated qa | 17:55 |
| * clivejo giggles | 17:55 | |
| yofel | ... | 17:55 |
| * ovidiu-florin thinks QA means Qwestions / Answers | 17:55 | |
| * yofel throws old throuts after clivejo :P | 17:55 | |
| yofel | Quality Assurance? ^^ | 17:56 |
| yofel | clivejo: all uploaded, thanks for the reminder | 17:56 |
| clivejo | Wikipeda ==> Quality assurance (QA) is a way of preventing mistakes or defects in manufactured products and avoiding problems when delivering solutions or services to customers; which ISO 9000 defines as "part of quality management focused on providing confidence that quality requirements will be fulfilled". | 17:57 |
| clivejo | suggests an edit products and software | 17:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you for the insight | 17:58 |
| clivejo | yofel: can I give the PPA a kick? | 17:59 |
| clivejo | ./kubuntu-retry-builds -r frameworks --ppa=kubuntu-ppa --ppaname=staging-frameworks --force ? | 17:59 |
| yofel | no | 17:59 |
| clivejo | awww | 18:00 |
| yofel | no point in doing that until the publisher runs | 18:00 |
| yofel | I'm waiting to do the damn same thing | 18:00 |
| clivejo | pity they couldnt be uploaded in order | 18:01 |
| yofel | we should probably indicate the publisher wait on the status page somehow | 18:01 |
| clivejo | a ticking clock icon | 18:01 |
| yofel | considering how slow the publisher is today that wouldn't have changed much... | 18:01 |
| yofel | possibly, yeah | 18:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark: ping | 18:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | valorie: ping | 18:02 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: is the core meeting in an hour? | 18:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | yes | 18:02 |
| * clivejo goes and looks for food | 18:02 | |
| clivejo | shame we cant poke the publisher | 18:05 |
| clivejo | it finished 30mins ago | 18:06 |
| clivejo | Published 22 minutes ago | 18:07 |
| clivejo | :/ | 18:07 |
| yofel | interesting how annoying a blinking gear can be :P | 18:10 |
| yofel | FINALLY | 18:18 |
| yofel | and.. retr | 18:18 |
| yofel | y | 18:18 |
| yofel | bbiab | 18:22 |
| xnox | sgclark, why is there libkdegames4? and why things are not using libkdegames? | 18:29 |
| xnox | fyi libkdemages4 now started to ftbfs, due to changes in symbols files, and i'm not sure if i should upload a diff dropping them. | 18:30 |
| xnox | from test rebuild https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline/+build/8534234 | 18:30 |
| xnox | http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20151218.1-xenial-baseline-xenial.html | 18:30 |
| yofel | xnox: those are gccinternal symbols and can go, but now that you mention libkdegames4, the whole source might be obsolete by now | 18:41 |
| yofel | let me verify that | 18:41 |
| yofel | xnox: it seem that for now we still have a bunch of games that rely on libkdegames4, so it'll have to stay | 18:49 |
| Rick_Timmis | Hi Everyone. | 18:55 |
| Rick_Timmis | Core Team Hangout, will be starting @7pm UTC | 18:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | sitter: are you around? | 19:16 |
| * yofel throws another large sets of throuts at launchpads janitor | 19:50 | |
| === 77CAAHGAP is now known as invalid | ||
| clivejo | yofel: what does failed to upload mean? | 19:55 |
| yofel | open the the build page, there you have a link to the upload log | 19:56 |
| yofel | that'll tell you what went wrong | 19:56 |
| yofel | essentially that means that the builder wasn't able to upload the build result to the PPA | 19:56 |
| clivejo | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/233198899/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-i386.kdbusaddons_5.18.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa2_BUILDING.txt.gz | 19:56 |
| clivejo | looks successful | 19:56 |
| yofel | clivejo: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-frameworks/+build/8809408 | 19:57 |
| yofel | there's an uploadlog | 19:57 |
| clivejo | eakk | 19:57 |
| yofel | failed to upload only can happen after successfull builds | 19:57 |
| yofel | we'll have to wait until the janitor physically deletes the "deleted" binaries, then we can retry this stuff | 19:58 |
| clivejo | :( | 19:58 |
| yofel | that might take a couple hours though :/ | 19:58 |
| clivejo | I dont like janitor | 19:58 |
| clivejo | so some of your ppa1 packages got built? | 19:59 |
| clivejo | and made binary babies | 19:59 |
| yofel | yes, *with* the epoch, and those zombies are now blocking stuff | 19:59 |
| clivejo | eak | 19:59 |
| yofel | that's why you don't mess this stuff up, ever -.- | 20:00 |
| yofel | meh | 20:00 |
| * clivejo makes notes | 20:00 | |
| clivejo | dont do what yofel did, ever | 20:00 |
| yofel | at least now you learnt what that launchpad can fail to upload stuff ;P | 20:00 |
| yofel | s/what// | 20:01 |
| clivejo | and epoch's are evil | 20:01 |
| clivejo | networkmanager failed to build | 20:02 |
| clivejo | is that going to be another problem? | 20:02 |
| yofel | o.O | 20:02 |
| yofel | didn't I remove those symbols? | 20:03 |
| clivejo | surprise!! | 20:03 |
| clivejo | their back! | 20:03 |
| clivejo | they're | 20:03 |
| yofel | let me c&p the symbolfile from a 5.17 build and see what the diff is | 20:04 |
| ovidiu-florin | http://youtu.be/lYiEQd2QZcs | 20:04 |
| yofel | yes, I did remove them... | 20:05 |
| yofel | wth | 20:05 |
| yofel | maybe I forgot to push /o\ | 20:06 |
| clivejo | push phillip push! | 20:12 |
| yofel | I did this time :P | 20:12 |
| clivejo | its a networkmanager baby! | 20:12 |
| yofel | @podcast: LOL | 20:17 |
| clivejo | yofel you watching the podcast? | 20:19 |
| yofel | yep | 20:20 |
| clivejo | Ive stalled | 20:22 |
| snele | will plasma 5.6 make it into 16.04? | 20:44 |
| ahoneybun | 5.6 is set for 2016-03-22 | 20:45 |
| ahoneybun | so it would be real close | 20:45 |
| mamarley | It will almost definitely be in one of the PPAs though. | 20:46 |
| yofel | PPAs certainly, release... dunno. Event the beta release is after our beta1 milestone... | 20:47 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| clivejo | yippeeeeeee | 21:06 |
| genii | Heh | 21:07 |
| yofel | hm, we need to do an archive cleanup check at some point | 21:32 |
| yofel | I just found out that we have 3 useless l10n packges in the archive by coincidence | 21:33 |
| yofel | aaand I found a bug in our pkg-kde-tools merge | 21:37 |
| yofel | this day is getting better every minute | 21:38 |
| clivejo | whats the bug? | 21:41 |
| yofel | debian: kde-l10n-cavalencia, ubuntu: kde-l10n-ca-valencia | 21:42 |
| yofel | breaks the kde-l10n:all substvar | 21:42 |
| clivejo | and thats one of the worst ones to break :/ | 21:45 |
| yofel | well, it really just messes with the valencia package, but not nice | 21:45 |
| yofel | I think we need some defined package list that we should be using for upgrade tests | 21:46 |
| clivejo | have you tried restarting a failed to upload FW? | 21:46 |
| yofel | there I had the idea to install kde-l10n-* and boom, two issues slap me right in the face | 21:46 |
| yofel | no, I know that they'll fail again | 21:46 |
| clivejo | how do you know when the files have actually been deleted? | 21:47 |
| yofel | I'm looking at the package deletion page, that shows sources in "Deleted" state | 21:47 |
| yofel | as long as they're visible, stuff stays broken | 21:47 |
| clivejo | could someone on the LP channel hurry it along? | 21:48 |
| yofel | I don't think the sysadmins mess with the cronjob unless it's a real emergency | 21:48 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: fancy fixing kalgebra? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/233127145/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.kalgebra_4%3A15.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz | 22:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | anything | 22:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | but tomorrow | 22:00 |
| clivejo | no prob | 22:00 |
| ovidiu-florin | I can't anymore today | 22:00 |
| clivejo | Ill do it :) | 22:00 |
| clivejo | its a missing files one, should be easy enough to fix | 22:01 |
| ronnoc | Hi guys! It appears that one is not able to comment on the Kubuntu website at the moment. I tried to leave a comment about the new package release, but I get an error about filling out name / email even though that info. was present. | 22:02 |
| ovidiu-florin | comments should be disabled | 22:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | ronnoc: | 22:18 |
| ronnoc | ovidiu-florin: ok. that's fine. perhaps the comment box should not be visible then? | 22:18 |
| ovidiu-florin | ronnoc: I know | 22:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | I've fixed it now | 22:19 |
| ronnoc | OK :) | 22:19 |
| ovidiu-florin | some people forget to disable them ( yofel ) :P | 22:19 |
| * yofel thought they were disabled in general... | 22:20 | |
| ronnoc | I copied my positive comment to the clippy, so I'll head over to G+ and comment there :) | 22:20 |
| ovidiu-florin | yeah... WP does not allow you to do that | 22:20 |
| ovidiu-florin | without installing a plugin | 22:20 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: turn them off globally | 22:20 |
| clivejo | Settings>Discussion>Allow people to post comments | 22:21 |
| clivejo | saves you having to do it manually on each page | 22:21 |
| ovidiu-florin | clivejo: done, thanks | 22:28 |
| * ovidiu-florin ZZZzzzzz..... | 22:29 | |
| yofel | nooooo, after all the fixed stuff -.- | 22:29 |
| clivejo | you updated it to 4.4.1? | 22:29 |
| clivejo | ovidiu-florin: ^ | 22:29 |
| yofel | clivejo: 4.4.0 right now | 22:32 |
| clivejo | check for updates | 22:32 |
| clivejo | 4.4.1 is bug release | 22:32 |
| yofel | I saw it, but I'm not sure if we do that or canonical IS | 22:32 |
| clivejo | Id so it ASAP :P | 22:33 |
| clivejo | do | 22:33 |
| yofel | well, lets hang up a vodoo doll and pray that nothing happens until tomorrow | 22:33 |
| * clivejo is updating all his sites | 22:33 | |
| yofel | now I'm curious what they fixed... | 22:34 |
| * yofel looks | 22:34 | |
| clivejo | fixes a cross-site scripting vulnerability | 22:35 |
| clivejo | and approx 50 other minor bugs | 22:36 |
| clivejo | yofel: can you help me with kdesdk-thumbnailers? | 22:38 |
| yofel | sec | 22:39 |
| clivejo | it looks like an install file change# | 22:39 |
| clivejo | so I commented out the kde4 files and run it in pbuilder | 22:39 |
| clivejo | it completes but the two packages are empty and no reports of missing lists | 22:39 |
| clivejo | it doesnt seem to build any files either :/ | 22:40 |
| yofel | ah ahhah ahahhhaaha | 22:44 |
| yofel | another badly split and/or partly migrated thing | 22:44 |
| yofel | it only contains one thumnailer, and you're missing the one optional build-dep that's required to build that | 22:44 |
| yofel | so even though you have all required deps, it doesn't actually do anything useful | 22:44 |
| * yofel has a kgamma dejavú | 22:45 | |
| clivejo | what build dep am I missing? | 22:45 |
| yofel | -- The following OPTIONAL packages have not been found: | 22:45 |
| yofel | * GettextPO | 22:45 |
| clivejo | libgettextpo-dev ? | 22:46 |
| * genii sacrifices a small vegetarian mammal to the voodoo doll | 22:47 | |
| yofel | dunno, install it and see if it helps | 22:47 |
| yofel | heh | 22:47 |
| clivejo | I had another one like this, cant remember the name :/ | 22:50 |
| yofel | welcome to the world where people split stuff out and don't care what happens to the remains........ | 22:50 |
| clivejo | ok that seems to have worked, built 3 files | 22:51 |
| clivejo | ooo Neon hook is fixed! | 22:53 |
| yofel | it is nice to have the crashes gone ^^ | 22:55 |
| clivejo | yeah scared the life outta me the first time it happened | 22:56 |
| clivejo | thought Id done something wrong | 22:56 |
| === 16WAAH2WZ is now known as invalid | ||
| clivejo | hi Blizzz# | 22:58 |
| yofel | welcome to FOSS development, where you either develop an ignorance shield against all kinds of complaints after a while or quit doing it | 22:58 |
| clivejo | hi BluesKaj | 22:58 |
| clivejo | wow 400Mb of updates | 23:00 |
| BluesKaj | hi clivejo , i'm stick ing around later then usual to seei if plasma 5.5 will be ready soon | 23:00 |
| yofel | not today | 23:00 |
| yofel | unless launchpad shows some mercy | 23:00 |
| Blizzz | hey clivejo | 23:00 |
| BluesKaj | ok yofel thanks | 23:00 |
| clivejo | sorry BluesKaj, run into more problems | 23:00 |
| clivejo | soory Blizzz, my autocomplete malfunctioned :/ | 23:01 |
| BluesKaj | no need to be sorry | 23:01 |
| BluesKaj | ok I'll see you guys tomorrow | 23:02 |
| Blizzz | clivejo: no worried :) | 23:02 |
| * yofel remembers the last couple weeks | 23:02 | |
| Blizzz | s/worried/worries | 23:02 |
| yofel | clivejo: you've been doing like 500% the work of the official devs, you may feel awesome :P | 23:02 |
| clivejo | I feel smelly! | 23:03 |
| clivejo | not awesome! | 23:03 |
| yofel | lol | 23:03 |
| clivejo | the plumbing job was in a cattle shed! | 23:04 |
| yofel | ouch | 23:04 |
| clivejo | yofel: mind scanning over artikulate --> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/233164504/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.artikulate_4%3A15.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa3_BUILDING.txt.gz | 23:06 |
| clivejo | no idea whats wrong there :/ | 23:07 |
| clivejo | I asked in kde-dev and noone answered :( | 23:07 |
| yofel | what does that even test..... | 23:08 |
| * clivejo shrugs | 23:08 | |
| clivejo | should I bump /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/dhmk.mk to 3? | 23:10 |
| yofel | for kf5, yes | 23:10 |
| clivejo | think that will make a difference to the tests? | 23:11 |
| yofel | maybe not, but it will prevent other possible silent breakage | 23:11 |
| yofel | iirc it sets paths and stuff like that for frameworks | 23:11 |
| clivejo | tests are xvfb-run | 23:12 |
| clivejo | could that make a difference? | 23:12 |
| clivejo | yofel: is there a way to grep through the archive for /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2 and bump them to 3? | 23:15 |
| yofel | feel free to clone all repos and do the greb | 23:16 |
| yofel | *p | 23:16 |
| yofel | but don't update anything that's still qt4 | 23:16 |
| clivejo | well I still have apps cloned locally in workspace/apps | 23:16 |
| clivejo | nope, bumping to 3 doesnt solve the test issue | 23:19 |
| clivejo | Schema at file "" is invalid. sounds wrong | 23:19 |
| yofel | uh, looking at the test code this might be another ark... | 23:20 |
| yofel | but this time out of lazyness | 23:20 |
| clivejo | oh? | 23:21 |
| yofel | clivejo: look at init() in autotests/testcoursefiles.cpp | 23:22 |
| clivejo | I am | 23:22 |
| clivejo | there is nothing there | 23:22 |
| yofel | there is a fixme there | 23:22 |
| clivejo | TODO | 23:22 |
| clivejo | uncomment KGlobal::dirs()->addResourceDir("appdata" , "./autotests/data"); ? | 23:23 |
| yofel | I wouldn't do that, if upstream says that's broken I believe them | 23:23 |
| yofel | yep, works once you install it | 23:24 |
| yofel | so... skipit | 23:24 |
| clivejo | phoney? | 23:25 |
| clivejo | in rules? | 23:25 |
| yofel | yep | 23:25 |
| clivejo | thats cheating | 23:25 |
| yofel | EDONTCARE | 23:25 |
| yofel | or well, we can autopkgtest this | 23:25 |
| yofel | but other than actually fixing the test there's no way to get this to work during build time | 23:26 |
| clivejo | yofel: should I comment out the current autotest and leave a FIXME notice or remove them completely? | 23:33 |
| yofel | might as well leave a fixme | 23:33 |
| clivejo | it should be fixed in future releases? | 23:34 |
| yofel | maybe | 23:34 |
| clivejo | LOL I sense you dont see that happening! | 23:35 |
| clivejo | any time soon anyways | 23:35 |
| yofel | I've seen a lot of disable tests in the packages from debian, so I'm not sure if we should | 23:36 |
| yofel | which reminds me...... | 23:37 |
| yofel | we never did merge apps with debian, did we? | 23:37 |
| clivejo | this is true | 23:38 |
| * clivejo didnt do it | 23:38 | |
| yofel | so, launchpad deleted *some* packages o.O | 23:52 |
| yofel | I retried *some* packages | 23:53 |
| yofel | anyway, off to bed. work tomorrow | 23:56 |
| clivejo | night night yofel | 23:58 |
| * clivejo goes to bed too | 23:59 | |
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