GlamdringHrm. So it's a problem of the OS's age.00:04
GlamdringHow do y'all recommend upgrading from 14.10 if one lacks DVDs?00:05
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades00:06
geniiGlamdring: LAst link from the bot there :)00:07
GlamdringThanks. I'd had some trouble figuring out how to go about it without downloading a DVD image I couldn't figure out how to use.00:07
GlamdringOne thing that kept me from upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04 (I think it was?) was when I used to do that by just updating things, it would occasionally break sound support or other similar things, where a fresh, clean install wouldn't.00:09
GlamdringIs that still a problem?00:09
geniiPossibly, but at this point I'm not sure you have much choice but to upgrade to a supported edition00:12
GlamdringWhich surely I must.00:12
GlamdringIt'd all be easier if I had some DVDs. :(00:12
geniiIf your system can boot from USB and you have an USB stick large enough around, just dd the image onto it and boot to that00:12
genii( instead of burning a DVD)00:13
GlamdringI actually don't know that I have any USB sticks to speak of, either. They get lost very easily around our house, which is quite bothersome.00:13
GlamdringRight. I remember. I was also hoping to make an image file of my current setup 'cause, darnit, it actually works, and I want to be able to restore to it if everything goes pear shaped...00:14
geniiMight want to invest in a couple of USB sticks then...00:15
GlamdringMaybe one with a key chain.00:15
GlamdringThat'd be nice.00:15
GlamdringGreat big key chain fob.00:16
=== TheRedQueen is now known as Drone`
trtei have a problem with my wifi i have HP dv800017:00
trtemy chip is b431817:00
trteafter verification i got wi-fi is disabled by hardware switch17:02
trtecan anyone help me with this problem plz17:05
krytariktrte: So, find the hardware switch it's referring to?17:22
geniitrte: The wifi button is at the top in the middle, above the volume-up/volume-down/mute buttons17:27
genii( according to page 23 of http://www.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00554540.pdf )17:27
geniiIf the wifi adapter is on, there should be a light directly above this button which will light up17:28
Dylan____Hey guys if i was installing lubuntu on my macbook pro what disk image would i use?21:26
wxlDylan____: which one?21:30
wxlDylan____: if what i'm reading is correct, those with the yonah processor (A1150 (15"), A1151 (17")) would be i386, otherwise amd64. technically i386 would work on all of them, but amd64 would make better use of resources.21:37
Dylan____But if im going with macbook pro image (PPC) cause mines a 2010 does that mean like the wifi etc will work out the box21:41
Dylan____Or will i have to use the amd64 image21:41
wxlDylan____: you do NOT want the ppc21:42
wxlDylan____: not for a macbook pro, at least21:42
Dylan____So i would use the amd64?21:42
wxlDylan____: the macbook pro was only built up until 2008?21:44
wxloh no wait i'm wrong!21:44
Dylan____Thats okay21:45
Dylan____Im just curious which one i need to download21:46
wxlDylan____: amd6421:46
Dylan____Ok thanks21:47
Dylan____So is it the mac standed 64bit?21:51
Dylan____Or the amd6421:51
wxlDylan____: there's no longer a mac-specific 64 bit version. just get the amd6421:52
Dylan____And with wifi would i need to use bootsble21:53
Dylan____Usb to install?21:53
wxlDylan____: as long as you have a Merom or newer processor, amd64 is the right one and afaik the only one that didn't fulfill that criteria is the first one (and would need i386)21:54
Dylan____I have a intel core 2 duo in it21:55
wxlyeah well there's a lot of Intel Core 2 Duos :)21:55
Dylan____With nvidia 320m graphics21:55
wxlwhat wifi chip? do you know?21:55
wxlif you can live without wifi during the install, it's trivial to set up the wifi chip afterwards21:55
wxlthat's not exactly right21:56
wxldo you have an ethernet cable?21:56
Dylan____and i know i think i can do that thought usb21:56
Dylan____Doesnt fit into it21:56
wxlyeah then you should download the right bits to do the usb21:56
Dylan____But i know when i was installing ubuntu i would go to dkms install that though the jsb21:56
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx21:56
wxlinstructions are up there21:56
Dylan____Then the usb has the bcmwl kernel source21:56
ianorlinqtDylan____, is this 15.10 ?22:06
ianorlinqtFor some reason I think I had problems with 15.10 and my 432222:06
ianorlinqtThis came in late breakage22:06
ianorlinqtI can get the wifi to work with b43 open source driver on 15.10 now as b43 has undergone some upgrades where it would not before but you need to modprobe b4322:07
ianorlinqtDylan____, ^22:07
wxlDylan____: finally found the page on wikipedia i was looking for. all the notebook core 2 duos are intel 64, so i can confirm the amd64 is the right one!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors#Core_2_Duo_222:09
wxl(and yes, i know it's confusing but amd64 is a general term not specific to amd processors)22:11
geniiI think thats why it's going now towards x86_6422:11
Dylan____Im installing 14.0422:41
Dylan____Just making my bootable usb right now22:41
Dylan____Ianorlinqt will this work for 14.04 aswell?22:42
ianorlinqtI don't think so22:42
Dylan____Ill try22:42
ianorlinqtI think the bcmwl kernel source worked for 14.0422:42
Dylan____Im noticed it worked on ubuntu22:43
Dylan____Cause i had to install dkms and ther bcmwl through the usb22:43
ianorlinqthmm I have not done that before glad I had the ethernet22:59
Dylan____ Im just installed lubuntu22:59
Dylan____Cause theres no bcmwl package in the usb23:00
Dylan____But how can i install the wifi?23:00
ianorlinqt!info apt-offline23:02
ubottuapt-offline (source: apt-offline): offline APT package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1 (wily), package size 55 kB, installed size 346 kB23:02
ianorlinqtbut not sure if you have another comp23:02
ianorlinqtor if you could do a drive transplant23:02
wxlDylan____: the broadcom wiki page has info23:03
wxl!broadcom | Dylan____23:03
ubottuDylan____: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx23:03
wxlthere's intructions for both online and offline23:03
wxlstill, you will need SOME computer with internet access to download the appropriate bits23:03
Dylan____I have anither compt23:04
wxland you have 4322?23:05
Dylan____No its a hp laptop with windows 1023:06
wxli mean your mac23:06
wxlthat should be the right one23:06
Dylan____How can i get ther bcmwl kernel source23:08
wxlgives you the info on there23:09
Dylan____Do i install b4323:09
Dylan____And b43legacy23:09
wxlif you have a 4322 then b4323:09
wxlyou don't need legacy at all23:10
Dylan____So just b4323:10
wxlso you need the deb file for b43-fwcutter23:10
wxland you need the tarball for the kernel source23:10
Dylan____Where can i get that?23:10
wxl14.04 right?23:11
wxlassuming so23:12
wxlso get that23:12
wxland get http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz223:12
wxlyou'll want to uncompress the tarball23:12
wxlinstall b43-fwcutter23:12
wxlsudo dpkg -i b43-cutter_018-2_amd64.deb23:13
wxlthen you want to use it against the source23:13
wxlsudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o23:13
wxlat that point you can either load the kernel module (sudo modprobe b43) or you can just reboot23:14
Dylan____With the fwcutter23:15
Dylan____Im sent to a ubuntu in launchpad page23:15
Dylan____What do i type in the packages?23:15
wxli left the direct link above23:15
Dylan____I did23:15
ianorlinqtwxl I think you need a recent like 15.10 kernel to work with b4323:16
wxlcuz that's a direct download for me23:16
wxlianorlinqt: shouldn't23:16
ianorlinqtand 432223:16
wxlafaik 4322 is supported on like 3.18 or something of the sort23:16
Dylan____The 4322 was. Dircect linxu23:16
Dylan____But the fmwl isnt23:16
ianorlinqtyes not 14.0423:16
wxl!info linux trusty23:17
ubottuPackage linux does not exist in trusty23:17
wxl!info linux-generic trusty23:17
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB23:17
Dylan____Ok how can i get the fwcutter in 14.04?23:17
ianorlinqtmaybe 15.04 kernel would work23:17
Dylan____Ok ill download a new iso23:17
wxlDylan____: what's the pci id?23:17
wxlwait don't do that yet23:17
Dylan____Im confused im donwloaded bc4323:17
wxldo lspci | grep 14e423:18
Dylan____But not the cutter one23:18
Dylan____Doesnt come up with nything23:18
Dylan____Its blank23:18
ianorlinqtI think bcmwl-kernel-source works on 14.04 and then broke in 15.10 because of something wierd23:19
wxldo lspci -nn | grep 14e423:19
wxlif you get nothing from that you do NOT have a broadcom chip23:19
Dylan____Shows up with bcm432223:19
wxlwhat's the number next to 14e423:20
wxlliike 14e4:xxxx23:20
Dylan____For the wireless23:20
wxlfirst seen kernel version is v2.6.3023:20
wxlso i think maybe there is no reason to be concerned23:21
Dylan____So what do i do23:21
Dylan____I have the b43 on another usb23:21
wxlthough they claim partial support23:21
Dylan____Like the .deb23:21
Dylan____But i dont got the fwcutter23:21
Dylan____Im currently getting a 15.10 iso23:22
wxlno the issue is with b4323:22
wxlwl is an alternative23:22
Dylan____So what do i do23:22
wxlgod i hate broadcom23:22
geniiIs it usb?23:22
wxlgenii: no23:23
ianorlinqtno this is a mini pcie card23:23
wxlgenii: 14e4:432b BCM432223:23
ianorlinqtthe problem is this one needs to download a driver23:23
wxlwireless.wiki.kernel.org claims partial support with b4323:23
geniiGod, how I hate Broadcom23:23
ianorlinqtI mostly find the only way is to connect over ethernet to work with it23:23
wxlit suggests wl as an alternative23:23
wxli've never had to use wl23:26
wxllooks like you need the proprietary driver, Dylan____23:27
Dylan____How can i get it23:27
wxland NOW i understand why you mentioned dkms23:27
wxlfollow the instructions23:27
Dylan____Well there isnt dkms in my usb23:28
wxlso you'll have to track down the deb file on launchpad :/23:28
Dylan____Well im going to install 15.1023:29
wxlthat won't help you but ok :)23:29
Dylan____Well what do i do then23:29
Dylan____Im confused23:29
Dylan____I dont understand this23:29
wxlread: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access23:30
Dylan____Theres no dkms nor bmcwl on my usb thst would come bundled though pools/main23:30
wxlso go to launchpad to get the deb file23:30
wxlall the urls should start with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sourc23:31
wxlthen add the package name23:31
wxllike https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms23:31
wxlthen find the highest version available for trusty/14.0423:31
wxlopen up that section23:31
wxlscroll down to package files23:31
wxland grab the deb file (either all or amd64)23:32
wxlso for dkms you want https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/dkms_2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu5.14.04.5_all.deb23:32
Dylan____Let me get my windows laptop turned on23:32
wxlthen just sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb23:32
Dylan____Cant i just copy the .deb to a usb and use gdebi?23:32
wxlsame difference23:32
wxlgdebi's a front end to dpkg23:33
wxlyou'll also need23:33
ianorlinqtgdebi is a GUI to install debs which is what dpkg -i does23:33
Dylan____So i install of thoses eith gdebi23:33
wxlALL Of them in that order23:33
wxlTHEN you can load the kernel module or reboot23:34
wxlwhat a pain23:34
Dylan____Couldnt find dkms23:37
wxlwhat do you mean you couldn't find it?23:37
ianorlinqtugh might need to install that as well23:37
wxli gave you the direct link23:37
wxlyou need, in order:23:38
Dylan____Yes but im typing in the link from my ipad to my laptop23:38
Dylan____Exactly how it is23:38
wxltry that23:38
wxlthat's an o btw not a zero23:38
Dylan____Found dkms23:39
Dylan____Do i get the main?23:39
wxlif you get that file you have everything you need for dkms23:40
Dylan____Ok got everying23:43
Dylan____They all end in .tar23:43
wxlso now install them all in order23:43
wxlyou need to get the deb files23:44
Dylan____They wernt on there23:44
Dylan____It was ltar23:44
Dylan____Wheres the .debs?23:44
wxlhere's patch http://v.gd/eieMIm23:44
Dylan____On dkms it says downloads in .tar.gz or .dcs23:45
wxlhere's fakeroot http://v.gd/rYfYOJ23:45
wxldude i gave you a direct link to the deb for dkms23:45
* wxl cries23:45
wxlhere's bcmwl http://v.gd/sgJojv23:45
Dylan____The patch one is incorrect23:48
Dylan____Got all of em23:50
Dylan____Now what23:53
Dylan____It cant install the package23:54
Dylan____Cant install gcc23:54
Dylan____Though gdebi23:54
wxlDylan____: then you'll need to get gcc and install it first23:55
wxlunfortunately, you're going to have to walk through all the dependencies23:55
Dylan____Can u give me the short link?23:55
wxl!info gcc23:56
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.144ubuntu1)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:5.2.1-3ubuntu1 (wily), package size 5 kB, installed size 44 kB23:56
Dylan____I mean that short ur23:57
Dylan____Find it easier23:57

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