[00:04] <Glamdring> Hrm. So it's a problem of the OS's age.
[00:05] <Glamdring> How do y'all recommend upgrading from 14.10 if one lacks DVDs?
[00:06] <genii> !eolupgrade
[00:07] <genii> Glamdring: LAst link from the bot there :)
[00:07] <Glamdring> Thanks. I'd had some trouble figuring out how to go about it without downloading a DVD image I couldn't figure out how to use.
[00:09] <Glamdring> One thing that kept me from upgrading from 14.10 to 15.04 (I think it was?) was when I used to do that by just updating things, it would occasionally break sound support or other similar things, where a fresh, clean install wouldn't.
[00:09] <Glamdring> Is that still a problem?
[00:12] <genii> Possibly, but at this point I'm not sure you have much choice but to upgrade to a supported edition
[00:12] <Glamdring> Which surely I must.
[00:12] <Glamdring> It'd all be easier if I had some DVDs. :(
[00:12] <genii> If your system can boot from USB and you have an USB stick large enough around, just dd the image onto it and boot to that
[00:13] <genii> ( instead of burning a DVD)
[00:13] <Glamdring> I actually don't know that I have any USB sticks to speak of, either. They get lost very easily around our house, which is quite bothersome.
[00:14] <Glamdring> Right. I remember. I was also hoping to make an image file of my current setup 'cause, darnit, it actually works, and I want to be able to restore to it if everything goes pear shaped...
[00:14] <Glamdring> Mrf.
[00:15] <genii> Might want to invest in a couple of USB sticks then...
[00:15] <Glamdring> Maybe one with a key chain.
[00:15] <Glamdring> That'd be nice.
[00:16] <Glamdring> Great big key chain fob.
[13:24] <uuuu> jjj
[16:59] <trte> hello
[17:00] <trte> i have a problem with my wifi i have HP dv8000
[17:00] <trte> my chip is b4318
[17:02] <trte> after verification i got wi-fi is disabled by hardware switch
[17:05] <trte> can anyone help me with this problem plz
[17:22] <krytarik> trte: So, find the hardware switch it's referring to?
[17:27] <genii> trte: The wifi button is at the top in the middle, above the volume-up/volume-down/mute buttons
[17:27] <genii> ( according to page 23 of http://www.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00554540.pdf )
[17:28] <genii> If the wifi adapter is on, there should be a light directly above this button which will light up
[21:26] <Dylan____> Hey guys if i was installing lubuntu on my macbook pro what disk image would i use?
[21:30] <wxl> Dylan____: which one?
[21:37] <wxl> Dylan____: if what i'm reading is correct, those with the yonah processor (A1150 (15"), A1151 (17")) would be i386, otherwise amd64. technically i386 would work on all of them, but amd64 would make better use of resources.
[21:40] <Dylan____> Amd64
[21:41] <Dylan____> But if im going with macbook pro image (PPC) cause mines a 2010 does that mean like the wifi etc will work out the box
[21:41] <Dylan____> Or will i have to use the amd64 image
[21:42] <wxl> Dylan____: you do NOT want the ppc
[21:42] <wxl> Dylan____: not for a macbook pro, at least
[21:42] <Dylan____> So i would use the amd64?
[21:44] <wxl> Dylan____: the macbook pro was only built up until 2008?
[21:44] <wxl> oh no wait i'm wrong!
[21:45] <Dylan____> Haha
[21:45] <Dylan____> Thats okay
[21:46] <Dylan____> Im just curious which one i need to download
[21:46] <wxl> Dylan____: amd64
[21:47] <Dylan____> Ok thanks
[21:51] <Dylan____> So is it the mac standed 64bit?
[21:51] <Dylan____> Or the amd64
[21:52] <wxl> Dylan____: there's no longer a mac-specific 64 bit version. just get the amd64
[21:53] <Dylan____> Ok
[21:53] <Dylan____> And with wifi would i need to use bootsble
[21:53] <Dylan____> Usb to install?
[21:54] <wxl> Dylan____: as long as you have a Merom or newer processor, amd64 is the right one and afaik the only one that didn't fulfill that criteria is the first one (and would need i386)
[21:55] <Dylan____> I have a intel core 2 duo in it
[21:55] <wxl> yeah well there's a lot of Intel Core 2 Duos :)
[21:55] <Dylan____> With nvidia 320m graphics
[21:55] <wxl> what wifi chip? do you know?
[21:55] <Dylan____> Bcm4322
[21:55] <wxl> if you can live without wifi during the install, it's trivial to set up the wifi chip afterwards
[21:55] <Dylan____> Ok
[21:56] <wxl> er
[21:56] <wxl> wait
[21:56] <wxl> that's not exactly right
[21:56] <wxl> do you have an ethernet cable?
[21:56] <Dylan____> and i know i think i can do that thought usb
[21:56] <Dylan____> Nah
[21:56] <Dylan____> Doesnt fit into it
[21:56] <wxl> yeah then you should download the right bits to do the usb
[21:56] <Dylan____> But i know when i was installing ubuntu i would go to dkms install that though the jsb
[21:56] <wxl> !broadcom
[21:56] <wxl> instructions are up there
[21:56] <Dylan____> Then the usb has the bcmwl kernel source
[22:06] <ianorlinqt> Dylan____, is this 15.10 ?
[22:06] <ianorlinqt> For some reason I think I had problems with 15.10 and my 4322
[22:06] <ianorlinqt> This came in late breakage
[22:07] <ianorlinqt> I can get the wifi to work with b43 open source driver on 15.10 now as b43 has undergone some upgrades where it would not before but you need to modprobe b43
[22:07] <ianorlinqt> Dylan____, ^
[22:09] <wxl> Dylan____: finally found the page on wikipedia i was looking for. all the notebook core 2 duos are intel 64, so i can confirm the amd64 is the right one!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Core_2_microprocessors#Core_2_Duo_2
[22:11] <wxl> (and yes, i know it's confusing but amd64 is a general term not specific to amd processors)
[22:11] <genii> I think thats why it's going now towards x86_64
[22:41] <Dylan____> Im installing 14.04
[22:41] <Dylan____> Just making my bootable usb right now
[22:42] <Dylan____> Ianorlinqt will this work for 14.04 aswell?
[22:42] <ianorlinqt> I don't think so
[22:42] <Dylan____> Hmm
[22:42] <Dylan____> Ill try
[22:42] <ianorlinqt> I think the bcmwl kernel source worked for 14.04
[22:43] <Dylan____> Im noticed it worked on ubuntu
[22:43] <Dylan____> Cause i had to install dkms and ther bcmwl through the usb
[22:59] <ianorlinqt> hmm I have not done that before glad I had the ethernet
[22:59] <Dylan____>  Im just installed lubuntu
[23:00] <Dylan____> Cause theres no bcmwl package in the usb
[23:00] <Dylan____> But how can i install the wifi?
[23:02] <ianorlinqt> !info apt-offline
[23:02] <ianorlinqt> but not sure if you have another comp
[23:02] <ianorlinqt> or if you could do a drive transplant
[23:03] <wxl> Dylan____: the broadcom wiki page has info
[23:03] <wxl> !broadcom | Dylan____
[23:03] <wxl> there's intructions for both online and offline
[23:03] <wxl> still, you will need SOME computer with internet access to download the appropriate bits
[23:04] <Dylan____> I have anither compt
[23:05] <wxl> and you have 4322?
[23:06] <Dylan____> No its a hp laptop with windows 10
[23:06] <wxl> nono
[23:06] <wxl> i mean your mac
[23:06] <ianorlinqt> ugh
[23:06] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#b43_-_No_Internet_access
[23:06] <wxl> that should be the right one
[23:08] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:08] <Dylan____> How can i get ther bcmwl kernel source
[23:09] <wxl> gives you the info on there
[23:09] <Dylan____> Do i install b43
[23:09] <Dylan____> And b43legacy
[23:09] <wxl> if you have a 4322 then b43
[23:10] <wxl> you don't need legacy at all
[23:10] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:10] <Dylan____> So just b43
[23:10] <Dylan____> Right
[23:10] <wxl> so you need the deb file for b43-fwcutter
[23:10] <wxl> and you need the tarball for the kernel source
[23:10] <Dylan____> Where can i get that?
[23:11] <wxl> launchpad
[23:11] <wxl> 14.04 right?
[23:12] <wxl> assuming so
[23:12] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/b43-fwcutter_018-2_amd64.deb
[23:12] <wxl> so get that
[23:12] <wxl> and get http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
[23:12] <wxl> you'll want to uncompress the tarball
[23:12] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:12] <wxl> then
[23:12] <wxl> install b43-fwcutter
[23:13] <wxl> sudo dpkg -i b43-cutter_018-2_amd64.deb
[23:13] <wxl> then you want to use it against the source
[23:13] <wxl> sudo b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o
[23:14] <wxl> at that point you can either load the kernel module (sudo modprobe b43) or you can just reboot
[23:15] <Dylan____> With the fwcutter
[23:15] <Dylan____> Im sent to a ubuntu in launchpad page
[23:15] <Dylan____> What do i type in the packages?
[23:15] <wxl> i left the direct link above
[23:15] <Dylan____> I did
[23:15] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/b43-fwcutter_018-2_amd64.deb
[23:15] <wxl> ?
[23:16] <ianorlinqt> wxl I think you need a recent like 15.10 kernel to work with b43
[23:16] <wxl> cuz that's a direct download for me
[23:16] <wxl> ianorlinqt: shouldn't
[23:16] <ianorlinqt> and 4322
[23:16] <wxl> afaik 4322 is supported on like 3.18 or something of the sort
[23:16] <Dylan____> The 4322 was. Dircect linxu
[23:16] <Dylan____> But the fmwl isnt
[23:16] <ianorlinqt> yes not 14.04
[23:17] <Dylan____> Hmm
[23:17] <wxl> !info linux trusty
[23:17] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty
[23:17] <wxl> hm
[23:17] <Dylan____> Ok how can i get the fwcutter in 14.04?
[23:17] <ianorlinqt> maybe 15.04 kernel would work
[23:17] <Dylan____> Ok ill download a new iso
[23:17] <wxl> Dylan____: what's the pci id?
[23:17] <wxl> wait don't do that yet
[23:17] <Dylan____> Idk
[23:17] <Dylan____> Im confused im donwloaded bc43
[23:18] <wxl> do lspci | grep 14e4
[23:18] <Dylan____> But not the cutter one
[23:18] <Dylan____> Doesnt come up with nything
[23:18] <Dylan____> Its blank
[23:18] <wxl> weird
[23:19] <ianorlinqt> I think bcmwl-kernel-source works on 14.04 and then broke in 15.10 because of something wierd
[23:19] <wxl> do lspci -nn | grep 14e4
[23:19] <wxl> sorry
[23:19] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:19] <wxl> if you get nothing from that you do NOT have a broadcom chip
[23:19] <Dylan____> Shows up with bcm4322
[23:20] <wxl> what's the number next to 14e4
[23:20] <wxl> liike 14e4:xxxx
[23:20] <Dylan____> :432b
[23:20] <Dylan____> For the wireless
[23:20] <wxl> 1s
[23:20] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:20] <wxl> first seen kernel version is v2.6.30
[23:21] <wxl> so i think maybe there is no reason to be concerned
[23:21] <Dylan____> Ok?
[23:21] <Dylan____> So what do i do
[23:21] <wxl> oh
[23:21] <Dylan____> I have the b43 on another usb
[23:21] <wxl> though they claim partial support
[23:21] <Dylan____> Like the .deb
[23:21] <Dylan____> Tarball
[23:21] <Dylan____> But i dont got the fwcutter
[23:22] <Dylan____> Im currently getting a 15.10 iso
[23:22] <wxl> no the issue is with b43
[23:22] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:22] <wxl> wl is an alternative
[23:22] <Dylan____> So what do i do
[23:22] <wxl> god i hate broadcom
[23:22] <Dylan____> Haha
[23:22] <genii> Is it usb?
[23:23] <wxl> genii: no
[23:23] <ianorlinqt> no this is a mini pcie card
[23:23] <genii> Hm
[23:23] <wxl> genii: 14e4:432b BCM4322
[23:23] <ianorlinqt> the problem is this one needs to download a driver
[23:23] <wxl> wireless.wiki.kernel.org claims partial support with b43
[23:23] <genii> God, how I hate Broadcom
[23:23] <ianorlinqt> I mostly find the only way is to connect over ethernet to work with it
[23:23] <wxl> it suggests wl as an alternative
[23:26] <wxl> i've never had to use wl
[23:27] <wxl> looks like you need the proprietary driver, Dylan____
[23:27] <wxl> bummer....
[23:27] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access
[23:27] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:27] <Dylan____> How can i get it
[23:27] <wxl> and NOW i understand why you mentioned dkms
[23:27] <wxl> lame
[23:27] <wxl> follow the instructions
[23:28] <Dylan____> Well there isnt dkms in my usb
[23:28] <Dylan____> :/
[23:28] <wxl> so you'll have to track down the deb file on launchpad :/
[23:29] <Dylan____> Well im going to install 15.10
[23:29] <wxl> that won't help you but ok :)
[23:29] <Dylan____> Well what do i do then
[23:29] <Dylan____> Im confused
[23:29] <Dylan____> I dont understand this
[23:30] <wxl> read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#STA_-_No_Internet_access
[23:30] <Dylan____> Theres no dkms nor bmcwl on my usb thst would come bundled though pools/main
[23:30] <wxl> so go to launchpad to get the deb file
[23:31] <wxl> all the urls should start with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sourc
[23:31] <wxl> oops
[23:31] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source
[23:31] <wxl> then add the package name
[23:31] <wxl> like https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms
[23:31] <wxl> then find the highest version available for trusty/14.04
[23:31] <wxl> open up that section
[23:31] <wxl> scroll down to package files
[23:31] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:32] <wxl> and grab the deb file (either all or amd64)
[23:32] <wxl> so for dkms you want https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/dkms_2.2.0.3-1.1ubuntu5.14.04.5_all.deb
[23:32] <Dylan____> Let me get my windows laptop turned on
[23:32] <wxl> then just sudo dpkg -i /path/to/deb
[23:32] <Dylan____> Cant i just copy the .deb to a usb and use gdebi?
[23:32] <wxl> same difference
[23:33] <wxl> gdebi's a front end to dpkg
[23:33] <Dylan____> K
[23:33] <wxl> you'll also need
[23:33] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/patch
[23:33] <ianorlinqt> gdebi is a GUI to install debs which is what dpkg -i does
[23:33] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fakeroot
[23:33] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl
[23:33] <Dylan____> So i install of thoses eith gdebi
[23:33] <wxl> ALL Of them in that order
[23:34] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:34] <wxl> THEN you can load the kernel module or reboot
[23:34] <wxl> what a pain
[23:37] <Dylan____> Couldnt find dkms
[23:37] <wxl> what do you mean you couldn't find it?
[23:37] <ianorlinqt> ugh might need to install that as well
[23:37] <wxl> i gave you the direct link
[23:38] <wxl> you need, in order:
[23:38] <wxl> dkms
[23:38] <wxl> patch
[23:38] <wxl> fakeroot
[23:38] <wxl> bcmwl
[23:38] <Dylan____> Yes but im typing in the link from my ipad to my laptop
[23:38] <Dylan____> Exactly how it is
[23:38] <wxl> http://v.gd/en3POE
[23:38] <wxl> try that
[23:38] <wxl> that's an o btw not a zero
[23:39] <Dylan____> Found dkms
[23:39] <Dylan____> Do i get the main?
[23:40] <wxl> if you get that file you have everything you need for dkms
[23:43] <Dylan____> Ok got everying
[23:43] <Dylan____> They all end in .tar
[23:43] <wxl> so now install them all in order
[23:43] <wxl> uhhhh
[23:43] <wxl> no
[23:44] <wxl> you need to get the deb files
[23:44] <Dylan____> They wernt on there
[23:44] <Dylan____> It was ltar
[23:44] <Dylan____> Wheres the .debs?
[23:44] <wxl> here's patch http://v.gd/eieMIm
[23:45] <Dylan____> On dkms it says downloads in .tar.gz or .dcs
[23:45] <wxl> here's fakeroot http://v.gd/rYfYOJ
[23:45] <wxl> dude i gave you a direct link to the deb for dkms
[23:45]  * wxl cries
[23:45] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:45] <wxl> here's bcmwl http://v.gd/sgJojv
[23:48] <Dylan____> The patch one is incorrect
[23:48] <Dylan____> Nvm
[23:50] <Dylan____> Got all of em
[23:53] <Dylan____> Now what
[23:54] <Dylan____> It cant install the package
[23:54] <Dylan____> Cant install gcc
[23:54] <Dylan____> Though gdebi
[23:55] <wxl> Dylan____: then you'll need to get gcc and install it first
[23:55] <Dylan____> Ok
[23:55] <wxl> unfortunately, you're going to have to walk through all the dependencies
[23:55] <Dylan____> Can u give me the short link?
[23:56] <wxl> !info gcc
[23:57] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/gcc_4.8.2-1ubuntu6_amd64.deb
[23:57] <Dylan____> I mean that short ur
[23:57] <Dylan____> Find it easier
[23:58] <wxl> http://v.gd/El3WsF
[23:58] <Dylan____> Thxs