[13:42] <knome> pleia2, can you try logging in to staging.xubuntu.org?
[13:46] <knome> actually, looks like this shouldn't work right nwo
[13:46] <knome> hold..
[13:47] <knome> oh meh!
[13:47] <knome> i need to write a plugin myself
[13:47]  * knome sighs
[13:54] <knome> pleia2, should work now
[13:54] <knome> ...should
[14:21] <knome> bbl
[16:14] <pleia2> does not
[16:14] <pleia2> oh, had to click my membership in the xubuntu website team, then it works
[17:35] <Unit193> internet-networks.xml:167: element menuchoice: validity error : Element menuchoice content does not follow the DTD, expecting (shortcut? , (gui$
[17:35] <Unit193> Document ru/index.xml does not validate
[19:32] <ochosi> evening all
[19:40] <krytarik> knome, slickymaster: Reg. that ↑ , a dropped '</menuchoice>' here: https://translations.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs/xenial/+pots/user-docs/ru/325/+translate
[19:41] <krytarik> And evening, ochosi.
[21:38] <slickymaster> fixed krytarik 
[21:38] <slickymaster> thanks for spotting it
[21:39] <slickymaster> and Unit193, thanks to you, also
[21:58] <krytarik> slickymaster: Thanks to you as well. :P
[21:59] <flocculant> knome pleia2 - whoever see's first :) what's the status on the virtual thingy and the cont docs landing? 
[21:59] <flocculant> hi krytarik :)
[21:59] <krytarik> Hi flocculant.
[21:59] <pleia2> flocculant: the server?
[22:00] <flocculant> yea - the one you were setting up at some point 
[22:00] <pleia2> flocculant: it's running and static.o.o and docs.o.o were moved to it yesterday
[22:00] <pleia2> lol .o.o
[22:00] <pleia2> I meant x.o
[22:00] <pleia2> too much openstack :(
[22:00] <flocculant> ha ha 
[22:00] <pleia2> do we need new contributor docs up?
[22:00] <pleia2> http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/ has been up for a while now
[22:01] <flocculant> oh right - didn't know that
[22:01] <pleia2> there, all your problems solved \o/
[22:01]  * pleia2 collects her gold star
[22:01] <flocculant> nice - I really need to clean up the x.org/contribute/qa stuff 
[22:02] <flocculant> I can be pointing people at that new stuff now :)
[22:02] <pleia2> :)
[22:02]  * flocculant sends pleia2 a much more useful chocolate cookie :)
[22:02] <pleia2> omnomnom
[22:05] <flocculant> bumped the irc package testing mail(s) 
[22:06] <flocculant> see if we get some more takers, not going to run anything for 1 or 2 people
[22:06] <flocculant> and I immediately see someone respond on the poll after I bumped it :D
[22:08] <flocculant> bluesabre: do you think we should let users know that demise of vervet is imminent? 
[22:08] <flocculant> and indeed anyone else :)
[22:08] <flocculant> wb knome :)
[22:09] <knome> ta flocculant 
[22:10] <flocculant> bluesabre: one last thing (for the moment) we'd said we would possibly do a2 this cycle, that's a couple of weeks away - still think it's worth it? 
[22:10] <flocculant> ochosi: ^^
[22:10] <flocculant> and indeed anyone else :)
[22:11] <ochosi> humm, i don't have a strong opinion on this
[22:11] <flocculant> k - not all that sure I do to be honest :) 
[22:11] <knome> i don't think there has been much changes since 15.10, so i'm wondering how useful it would be
[22:11] <flocculant> well - not as much as if I was asking about a beta :)
[22:11] <ochosi> do you see any reason to go for a2?
[22:12] <ochosi> knome: yeah, that was my thought
[22:12] <flocculant> not specifically - other than it tests our bits with all the other newer stuff 
[22:12] <flocculant> but as is normal - not getting anything horrid here with it all 
[22:13] <knome> participating in a2 also means we will be pushing out an ISO which is more or less official, and then more or less people will go install it because it's the newest new and hottest hot
[22:13] <flocculant> but then again if we take "i don't think there has been much changes since 15.10, so i'm wondering how useful it would be" as a starting point - are we expecting anything to change much after that ? 
[22:14] <knome> whether that is good or bad is left for us to decide
[22:14] <flocculant> yea 
[22:14] <knome> flocculant, i don't think so
[22:14] <knome> b1's are generally slightly more stable than alphas
[22:14] <flocculant> I've been thinking about that point lately too 
[22:15] <flocculant> might have been the case 4 or so cycles ago
[22:15] <knome> b1 vs. alpha?
[22:15] <knome> haven't you noticed much difference lately?
[22:15] <flocculant> nowadays it seems that for the most part - what you can install a week into the cycle is more stable than it was way back 
[22:15] <knome> heh :)
[22:15] <knome> well that's a good thing
[22:15] <knome> i hope most of the critical bugs are fixed for betas though
[22:15] <flocculant> knome: I don't notice much difference between week 1 and week 26 now :)
[22:16] <flocculant> and yes - a good thing for sure
[22:16] <knome> not necessarily affecting everybody
[22:16] <knome> but things like data loss
[22:16] <knome> and other nastiness
[22:16] <flocculant> yea - not noticed anything - and I would shout ;)
[22:16] <knome> yep
[22:17] <flocculant> I thiink the only thing causing issues of any sort is thunar - but not data loss issues, just funky behaviour 
[22:17] <knome> yeah
[22:17] <flocculant> and that's the same as wily cycle 
[22:17] <knome> the crashes in 15.10 are annoying
[22:17] <knome> bluesabre, ^^ PPPPPP-PING!
[22:17] <flocculant> I don't see those here 
[22:18] <knome> i do, unfortunately :(
[22:18] <pleia2> me neither
[22:18] <knome> on the desktop at least
[22:18] <flocculant> well yea - I mean in xx 
[22:18] <knome> oh
[22:18] <knome> well i'm on wily
[22:18] <knome> pleia2, you on wily too?
[22:18] <flocculant> I was seeing things in wily from time to time
[22:18] <pleia2> yeah
[22:18] <knome> flocculant, ok...
[22:18] <pleia2> all my systems on wily now
[22:19] <pleia2> I turned off apport though
[22:19] <knome> same
[22:19] <pleia2> so maybe things I don't care about crash and I don't know :)
[22:19] <flocculant> shouldn't be turned on in wily 
[22:19] <knome> pleia2, the thunar crashes are like
[22:19] <knome> pleia2, rename a file
[22:19] <pleia2> oh, I don't use thunar
[22:19] <flocculant> :)
[22:19] <knome> pleia2, all thunar windows disappear
[22:19] <pleia2> neat
[22:30] <flocculant> knome: I'll try and get time tomorrow to clean up the x.org/cont/qa page a bit now that the other is live
[22:31] <knome> flocculant, it's not exactly linked to from anywhere, but works for me
[22:31] <knome> i mean, feel free to link - that is likely the final url anyway
[22:31] <flocculant> yea realise that, but the newer one changed a bit so I don't really want there to be 2 conflicting versions of things
[22:32] <flocculant> not massively conflicting I add :)
[22:33] <knome> :)
[22:37] <ochosi> knome: yeah, that's a sorta known issue by now
[22:37] <ochosi> something in gvfs changed, i don't remember what exactly
[22:38] <knome> yep
[22:39] <ochosi> and i'm not sure anymore whether there was a fix in the pipe for that
[22:39] <knome> which is why i pinged bluesabre ;)
[22:39] <ochosi> or whether things fix themselves with a gvfs update
[22:39] <knome> yeah