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cjwelbornIt's quiet in here, so let me tell about a bug I had. I usually alt+tab through windows, but decided to try the "flip switch" for once. It immediately crashed, and my keyboard stopped working. I logged out, and back in. The keyboard worked for lightdm, my ttys, and logging in to kde as root, but not for my user. I looked it up, and it was a known bug. Something about a deadlock/race-condition and releasing devices. Anyway, I decided to01:44
cjwelbornupgrade from 14.04 to 15.04 because the bug mentioned it had been fixed. Started the upgrade, got about half through and the do-release-upgrade gui froze because input was needed ("okay to overwrite modifed bash.bashrc?"). I tried for a while to repair my broken system. The software channels had already been switched over. I was met with error after error from apt. Mostly dependency errors, but one UnicodeDecodeError from python-tk (which01:44
cjwelbornwas weird). Anyway, At that point I gave up. I recently rsynced my home directory, and I copied my newest work to a usb stick from a tty. Sorry for a wall of text. I was waiting for a LTS before trying plasma 5, but I'm here now. I do like it, even though things don't seem quite as stable as my old system. I'm sure it will be ironed out soon. Thank you for your time. :)01:44
cjwelbornBasically I wiped that one partition and started fresh with a Kubuntu 15.10 install.01:46
cjwelbornOh, and the flip switch works fine now.01:49
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gdhlhi everyone!04:19
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soeehi gdhl04:21
gdhli just starting irc cli using irssi, that's cool04:23
soee:D04:25
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benvantendeDoes anyone know where the Wacom configuration has gone to in 15.10. It used to be in system IIRC10:11
hateballbenvantende: krunner -> wacom, does that return anything?10:13
benvantendehateball: sorry for my ignorance. where do i run krunner?10:16
hateballbenvantende: oh, alt+space by default10:16
hateballif you've upgraded from an earlier release it might still be bound to alt+f210:17
benvantendeof course ;) but no10:17
hateballhow about....10:17
benvantenderight10:17
hateball"tablet" ?10:17
hateballotherwise, searching in the k-menu should give same results10:17
hateballkickoff, whatever10:17
benvantendeno it is not there. i also tried looking for something installable, but there seems to be nothing for wacom anymore. i am sure there is, but just can't find it.10:19
lordievaderGood morning.10:19
benvantendemorning!10:21
lordievaderHey benvantende10:22
hateballbenvantende: sadly I am on 14.04 at work so I cannot say where it can be10:22
hateballbenvantende: is there a dedicated "input" thing?10:22
hateballmaybe it's grouped with touchpad/mouse or something10:22
benvantendething?10:22
benvantendeahh10:23
Smurphy*lol* trying to install kubuntu 14.04.3 on a new Dell laptop. What a mess ...10:23
lordievaderbenvantende: Seems like the wacom kcm is not ported to KF5 yet, propably need to use the old systemsettings to configure it.10:25
benvantendelordievader: right. that was what i was thinking. so how to invoke that?10:26
lordievaderbenvantende: kcmshell4 kcm_wacomtablet10:26
benvantendelordievader: duhhh - could not find module  'kcm_wacomtablet'10:27
lordievaderIs it installed?10:28
benvantendeUnable to locate package kcm_wacomtablet10:29
lordievaderNot sure if it is the same for 15.10, but under 14.04 the package is called kde-config-tablet10:30
lordievader!info kde-config-tablet10:30
ubottuPackage kde-config-tablet does not exist in wily10:31
lordievaderAhh...10:31
lordievaderHmm, [1] leads me to believe it does exist in wily. [1] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/vivid/amd64/kde-config-tablet/2.0-210:34
hateballbenvantende: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347022#c510:34
ubottuKDE bug 347022 in general "Unable to setup wacom tablet - widget missing" [Major,Confirmed]10:34
hateballthere is also a comment further down about getting it work the gui way10:35
benvantenderight10:35
benvantendebut not easy :(10:35
hateballSo it goes10:35
hateballThe cli way seems pretty simple tho10:36
benvantendeOK thanks for looking into it.10:37
Yossarianukhi - as Plasma 5.6 is out in March , does that mean 16.04 will use that ? -> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/kde-plasma-5-6-to-land-on-march-22-2016-will-have-five-point-releases-498545.shtml10:46
Yossarianukor is that a question for #kubuntu-devel ?10:46
mparilloIt was asked yesterday, and the answer was probably backports (http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2016/01/06/%23kubuntu-devel.html#t20:44).10:49
Yossarianukmparillo: thats a shame really....11:01
YossarianukAfter 3 - 5 years Plasma 5.5 will look more stale than 5.6.  One of the reasons Kubuntu is a good KDE based distro is that it usually has the latest stable KDE/Plasma release.11:01
lordievaderYossarianuk: Hence the backports? 14.04 also has an ancient Plasma4, with backports it is less ancient.11:04
Yossarianuklordievader: sure, and I do understand that the time frame isn't good I guess for an LTS release...11:06
YossarianukIn some ways it would be better if you could defer releases to fit in with KDE/Plasma release schedule..11:07
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BluesKajHiyas all12:58
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SmurphyHmm. Anyone knows how to get the Trash show up on the desktop in Kubuntu 14.04.3 LTS ?15:22
SmurphyI'm also missing it in 15.10 BTW ...15:22
marco-parilloAdd Widgets > Trashcan ?15:23
SmurphyYep. In 15.10 it worked. Didn't find it in 14.04.3.15:24
marco-parilloSorry, I do not have 14.04.3 around now to check15:25
BluesKajSmurphy:  think it's folder view in desktop settings15:37
hateballhmmm, I am 14.04.3, and I have a trash can applet in the tray... I cant seem to find where I would another one however15:38
hateballadd*15:38
SmurphyBluesKaj: I have Folder view. I always change back from whatever is default.15:46
SmurphyBut the trash won't show up.15:46
yuthe latest systemupdate wasnt good, screen is flickering after it, I havent accepted any unstable sources :(15:46
BluesKajSmurphy:  what about trash in dolphin places?15:50
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BluesKajSmurphy:  can you drag the trash icon from dolphin onto the desktop in 15.10, it works here in desktop view on 16.0415:53
BluesKajSmurphy:  or use the add widgets in the context menu on the desktop15:56
SmurphyWidget didn't work for 14.04.3 - had to create a desktop file. Works now.15:56
SmurphyUnder 15.10 the widget existed and works. Thx.15:57
SmurphyBTW - do you know a way to force a DNS Server in Ubuntu ?15:57
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BluesKajSmurphy:  add the dns IPs in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d base with root permissions , just igniore the warnings about resolv.conf being overwritten, it works16:07
BluesKajkdesudo dolphin /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d in the run command is the method I use, altho afaik if your router allows dns entries that's usually the best place16:09
yujust remembered I added a new package... so after deleting its no more graphics issues....anyway is there any possible way to make flash work in kubuntu?16:10
BluesKajflash works in kubuntu if you have flashplugin-installer installed. It works in FF ...chromium has issues, but chrome-browser works ok, altho it has it's own flash version16:13
BluesKajyu: ^16:15
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SmurphyBluesKaj: it's for overwriting the DNS of the DHCPD ...16:44
BluesKajSmurphy:  static IP on your LAN ?16:45
BluesKajmight work16:45
bartosz_hi16:54
bartosz_i'm using kubuntu right now and I would try a kde 5.5?16:54
bartosz_what do you think is it okay now or still need to wait for upgrades?16:55
yofelwe're close to having 5.5 done, but it's still not ready for general consumption16:56
marco-parilloI think I heard that soee: has been mostly successful, but I doubt I could replicate his success, so I am waiting. If you lurk in #kubuntu-devel you will see the packagers making progress.16:57
BluesKajyofel:  is it in the ppas? I'm willing to take a chance since I'm testing 16.04 anyway16:58
* genii consumes another coffee16:59
bartosz_ok I will wait. I'm not an advanced user16:59
BluesKajfinished my coffee ration for the day16:59
yofelI'll tell you in -devel17:00
BluesKajok17:00
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Frenzy42_Hello17:34
clivejohi Frenzy42_17:44
Frenzy42_I have a problem with my Kubuntu 14.04, (Dell E7440 Latitude + Dell E-Port Plus II + Dual Monitors + Kubuntu 14.04 (https://01.org/comment/reply/2785))17:54
Frenzy42_My problem here : http://fr.textsave.org/w4Pb17:54
Frenzy42_..18:10
oibe_bourneHello everyone. I'm using a Kubuntu derivate (Netrunner). Could anyone give me a short comment on a few network related issues I find to be a bit strange?18:21
oibe_bourneThough I disabled IPv6 by boot parameter, and lsmod doesn't show any IPv6 modules at all, "netstat -a" still shows tcp6 connections. How is this possible?18:23
nestor_всем привет)18:24
nestor_с кодировкой у меня все нормально ?)18:24
oibe_bournehttp://pastebin.com/3mFPQK2D18:24
oibe_bourneDoes this look normal?18:24
oibe_bourneNo browser opened or any other connection18:25
oibe_bournebeing active18:25
nestor_why is russia ?)18:26
nestor_or ukraine18:26
BluesKaj!ru | nestor_18:26
ubottunestor_: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:26
BluesKaj!ua18:28
nestor_ #ubuntu-ru i can not speak18:29
nestor_40418:29
nestor_error18:29
nestor_maybe this channel it has  russian people18:32
genii404 error on an IRC channel?18:32
nestor_#ubuntu-ru18:32
nestor_yes18:32
geniiAre you using some web gateway into IRC?18:33
nestor_no18:33
nestor_i have programm18:34
geniinestor_: Perhaps try: /join #ubuntu-ru18:34
nestor_konversation18:34
BluesKajnestor_:  register your nick?18:34
nestor_[20:34] [404] nestor_ #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel18:34
nestor_no18:35
nestor_i no register18:35
geniiBluesKaj: Yes, looks like thats the error18:35
BluesKajgenii:  yeah i joined #ubuntu-ru without error18:36
genii!register18:36
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode18:36
nestor_why code in Java ?)18:39
nestor_kottlett  you a from &)18:44
nestor_?*)18:44
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rom1504nestor_: you're right better code in haskell18:46
nestor_what ?18:48
nestor_i have  question18:48
nestor_java18:49
BluesKaj!java | nestor_18:51
ubottunestor_: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.18:51
rom1504nestor_: you already used up all your quota of questions19:03
nestor_))19:04
nestor_you funny19:04
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SkyriderYay, just installed kubuntu.. and already a crash :(20:07
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clivejoSkyrider: where did it crash?20:25
Skyriderclivejo: as far as I know, system was updating and I was switching monitor (laptop to tv)20:44
SkyriderMouse was lagging, a lot.. and then, poom. crash20:44
Skyriderat least, a process crashed20:44
clivejoit should pop telling you what crashed?20:45
SkyriderIndeed it did.20:48
SkyriderPlasma?20:48
SkyriderEither way, things works now. For now ^^..20:48
SkyriderNow I have to figure out, 1), how to make a share (I already made a share by directory properies, but cant find it in windows).20:49
Skyriderand 2). Why the screen won't fall back to laptop when I unplug the HDMI cable.20:49
SkyriderGuess I got the first one.20:54
clivejoSkyrider: what distro/version of Kubuntu?21:09
Skyrider15.1021:09
SkyriderMakes me wonder as well that kodi is now in window mode, but is refusing to go full-screen.21:09
SkyriderRegardless I nicely click the "full screen" button, top right.21:10
BlueProtomanAnyone use Kimchi?  I'm trying to install it on Kubuntu 15.10, but it's taking *forever*; I think the installer might actually be stuck in an infinite loop.21:10
genii!info kimchi21:12
ubottukimchi (source: kimchi): HTML5 based management tool for KVM. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.0-0ubuntu1 (wily), package size 853 kB, installed size 2995 kB21:12
geniiFrom the size, it shouldn't take too long to install. So yes, likely there's some issue21:13
BlueProtomangenii: How can I abort installing it?  Sure, Ctrl+C, but then I have to screw around with dpkg--what kind of screwing around should I do?21:18
geniiBlueProtoman: Probably no other way except that, unfortunately. I'd recommend doing a sudo apt-get purge kimchi   after that, and see if it recommends the sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a21:20
geniiBlueProtoman: If you do apt-get download kimchi   ...and then try manual install with sudo dpkg -i <kimchi-packagename-here>   it may give some more informative output about what's happening21:21
SkyriderCan someone tell me how to alter the \ key in kubuntu?21:22
SkyriderIt appears to alter/change the full/window size? At least, it does in kodi.21:22
BlueProtomangenii: At this point I don't care about installing kimchi, I just want to remove it.21:25
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SkyriderMmhhh21:34
SkyriderWhen I close the laptop, nothing happens.21:34
geniiBlueProtoman: So then just the ctrl-c and then sudo apt-get purge kimchi  ...and if it complains and mentions to run sudo dpkg -reconfigure -a  ..then do that as well21:35
SkyriderFixed it.21:37
BlueProtomangenii: Did that.  No luck.  http://pastebin.com/jmsV60me21:38
geniiBlueProtoman: So it looks like there is a directive in /var/lib/dpkg/info/kimchi.postrm   to stop nginx but it can't because the install never finished and got around to starting it21:42
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geniiBlueProtoman: You could install nginx, get it to start, then do the kimchi removal, then remove nginx21:43
geniiOr edit the postrm file to just comment out the nginx parts21:44
buriedaliveBlueProtoman u have a debian?21:45
buriedalivedebian with kde?21:46
BlueProtomangenii: Thanks!21:46
BlueProtomanburiedalive: Kubuntu.  But it's no longer relevant, genii's advice worked!21:47
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BlueProtomanHow can I add custom entries to the context menu for Dolphin (e.g. so I can mouse over some PDFs and compress them)?22:09
kubuntu_Hi all. Im a long time Kubuntu user, at least 3 years. I think this distro needs to survive because KDE is awesome and Ubuntu base is mainstream. I am aware of the leadership and organizational changes and the tough time Kubuntu is having right now, so Im willing to help. In which practical ways can someone with no programming abilities help Kubuntu?22:17
kubuntu_Btw FWIW, I just created a launchpad account to submit a bug report with Kubuntu 16.04 daily build installer22:18
kubuntu_.22:21
krytarikkubuntu_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved22:24
krytarikkubuntu_: Basically, join #kubuntu-devel and go from there.22:25
sleeperhi22:43
sleeperest se que c'est possible d'installer whatsapp sur kubuntu ?22:44
geniisleeper: Can you communicate en anglais?22:46
sleeperhow i can install whatsapp on my kubuntu ? you think it's possible22:47
geniisleeper: Whatsapp is an android application, they do not normally run in Ubuntu. However, there is an extension for Google Chrome web browser which will let you use Android applications in Ubuntu.22:48
geniisleeper: So first you install Chrome or Chromium, then go to http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/09/install-android-apps-ubuntu-archon  and follow the instructions there to be able to use Android applications such as whatsapp22:49
sleeperthank you , it's very helpfull ...22:51
geniisleeper: di rien :)22:52
sleeper:D you are franch , and you are making fun of me right now :D22:53
sleepergenious :D22:53
geniiNo, I am Canadian Anglo, but understand a little french22:53
sleeperthanks !!22:54
sleeperi'm morrocan :)22:55
sleeperin darija we say ( chokran = thank you )22:55
geniiCool22:58
uebera||Hi there. Is it possible to download an updated version of the 15.10 image from an official source and/or is there a howto/best practice regarding slipstreaming?23:04
sleepergenii do you know some good antivirus ?23:07
sleeperi think someone is hacking my laptop23:07
geniisleeper: Generally you will not require an antivirus on Linux. But of you really want one to use before sending files to people with Windows, ClamAV is mostly used23:08
SkyriderMaybe someone can help me with something..23:09
SkyriderI'm running kodi, and whenever I close the laptop (sleep mode) and turning it back on23:09
geniisleeper: It is very unlikely that your Ubuntu is compromised. But you can check that with for instance ckrootkit23:09
SkyriderThe audio is dead.23:09
sleeperok , i will search23:09
SkyriderI don't have this issue on windows.23:09
geniisleeper: chkrootkit  ..rather23:09
geniiuebera||: Official images are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/15.10/release/  if you had some previous 15.10 image, you can use zsync to download only the diff of the two images, as described here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage23:12
geniiSkyrider: What is the result of: grep LidSwitch /etc/systemd/logind.conf     ?23:18
uebera||genii: I got that image, thanks, but it's roughly three months old. What I want is to put an up-to-date version (like I use on other machines) on an USB stick without having to invoke apt-get upgrade in a second step.23:18
Skyrider#HandleLidSwitch=suspend / #HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore / #LidSwitchIgnoreInhibited=yes23:18
SkyriderI also found this: http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=14770923:18
geniiuebera||: Unfortunately there is not currently something better23:19
geniiuebera||: You could have an apt-caching machine on the network to make it somewhat less painful23:20
geniiSkyrider: You can try changing suspend to ignore in the first one, and removing the #23:20
SkyriderWont that keep my laptop on 24/723:21
geniiThe usual powersaving things will happen due to idling, but yes, it won't go into suspend or hibernate23:21
SkyriderI prefer it to suspend.23:22
Skyridermaybe hibernate will help.23:24
geniiSkyrider: Well, you could experiment and see. But if your power saving settings are such that it will go into suspend or hibernate anyhow after a period of idle, the bahaviour will not really change much from just having it trigger from closing the lid,23:27
SkyriderI can't seem to be using hiberate23:28
Skyrider*hibernate.23:28
geniiuebera||: Conceivably you can make an install CD/DVD from an up-to-date installed system, but I personally haven't done that and would be of little help23:28
SkyriderI changed it to HandleLidSwitch=hibernate - but the KDE? I believe power settings are in the way.23:28
SkyriderMaybe overwriting the conf file.23:28
SkyriderPlus, the energy/power management in kubuntu has no hibernate option.23:29
SkyriderOnly sleep, shutdown, etc.23:29
geniiSkyrider: Hibernate being missing can either be due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/1296133  or that you do not have a sufficient amount of swap set aside to do so23:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1296133 in upower (Ubuntu) "Suspend and hibernate missing from KMenu and Power Management in System settings" [Medium,Invalid]23:30
Skyridergot 8gb swap :)23:30
geniiSkyrider: The bug summary is basically that pm-utils is not installed by default, after installing it and a restart, the options become available23:32
uebera||genii: No problem, I asked in #ubuntu as well. (And I think I know the necessary steps to do it manually, but don't want to reinvent the wheel while trying to automate it) :)23:32
geniiuebera||: After freeze time in the release schedule, the iso file remains immutable but the repositories continue to get updates, since *buntu is not a rolling release. If brave you could go to Xenial daily iso releases23:34
sleepergenii one more quastion , the last one , you think i can remote linux in my phone ? i have Nokia Lumia 520 ?23:40
uebera||genii: I will be using the boot image to set up a server using dm-crypt/zfs, so 16.04 is a bit too risky for my liking ;) -- For the record: What I was looking for is more or less along these lines: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization23:40
SkyriderI also keep getting23:41
Skyrider"proprietary drivers might be required to enable additional features"23:41
Skyriderno idea how to "do" anyhing about it, as the info/pop-up does nothing at all23:42
Skyriderall I can press is default or OK.23:42
geniisleeper: To clarify: You want to run an X server on your phone and use your PCs desktop remotely? Or are you thinking something different, like ssh or adb ?23:42
valorie!info kubuntu-restricted-extras23:42
ubottukubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used media codecs and fonts for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 64 (wily), package size 3 kB, installed size 30 kB23:42
valorieSkyrider: install that ^^^23:42
sleeperno i want have ubuntu on my phone , not windows phone23:43
SkyriderDone.23:43
geniiSkyrider: As valorie indicates, you might want that package. It can also be due to having a radeon or nvidia card where there are binary drivers available but not installed23:43
sleeperlike to boot with linux23:43
Skyrideris it really d/ling exe files?23:44
SkyriderAnd ya, using radeon.23:44
geniisleeper: I think many Nokia can dual boot and use Linux, the N900 I know certainly does, but your model I do not know23:44
SkyriderNo idea how to 'update' it as I cant find radeon/adm in the software manager.23:44
Skyrider**amd23:44
genii!nvidia23:45
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto23:45
geniiHm23:45
genii!info nvidia-current23:45
ubottunvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-304): Transitional package for nvidia-current. In component restricted, is optional. Version 304.131-0ubuntu0.15.10.1 (wily), package size 4 kB, installed size 19 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)23:45
geniiSkyrider: You may need to enable the "restricted" repository23:45
SkyriderActually, that restricted extra's did the trick.23:48
Skyriderhttp://i.imgur.com/GZeou3e.jpg23:49
SkyriderWhich one to use?23:49
SkyriderFor my ATI.23:49
SkyriderI can see recommended, but making sure.23:49
geniiUsually the recommended, yes23:51
geniiAh, sleeper left. I was going to tell him about Tizen :)23:52
krytarikSkyrider: The first two are the mentioned proprietary ones though.23:53
Skyriderah23:57
geniiback shortly23:57

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