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hikikohello05:36
didrocksgood morning06:02
pittiGood morning07:18
didrockshey pitti07:18
seb128hey pitti didrocks desktopers07:19
pittibonjour à France !07:19
seb128how was your day off?07:20
seb128did you have some king cake? ;-)07:20
pittiseb128: heh, no, but I did build my NCC 1701D metal sheet model07:23
* pitti will post pics on G+ today07:23
pittiand we did a nice long walk, and I prodded the php and perl transitions a bit07:23
pittithey *finally* landed, phew!07:24
seb128nice07:24
dholbachgood morning08:20
didrockshey dholbach08:23
dholbachsalut didrocks08:23
seb128hey dholbach08:26
dholbachsalut seb12808:27
seb128dholbach, ça va bien ?08:27
dholbachoui, très bien - et toi?08:27
seb128oui :-)08:27
Laneyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahooooooooooooooooooooooooooo09:03
hikikohi Laney :p09:04
didrocksgood morning Laney, hey hikiko!09:05
hikikohi didrocks :)09:05
seb128hey Laney hikiko09:05
hikikohi seb128 :)09:05
Laneyalright dudes09:08
Laneywhat's going on?09:08
seb128reviewing recent bugs and e.u.c entries09:09
seb128but I might switch to some sponsoring/merging in a bit09:09
seb128what about you?09:09
Laneyseeing if slomo fixed gstreamer yet09:10
Laneythey broke totem :-o09:10
* didrocks enhances umake code for maintainability + plymouth upload + some google code in reviews09:11
seb128not cool!09:12
Laneydidrocks your code could not be better09:13
seb128didrocks, seems like the plymouth merge is settling down, good work ;-)09:13
LaneyI had it printed up as wallpaper09:13
Laneyand now it is covering my bedroom09:13
seb128haha09:13
didrocksseb128: thanks! it could have been way worse, indeed :-)09:13
didrocksLaney: ahah :p09:14
didrocksLaney: I'm quite happy to be able to run tests in an autopkgtests test bed without loosing any functionality :)09:14
didrocksI just need to add some shortcuts to runtests so that you don't have to specify all options when running from a branch09:15
Laneyseb128: looks like you missed the gnome-calendar source promotion?10:23
Laneythx for doing it!10:23
seb128I hate those tools10:24
seb128uw10:24
seb128yw10:24
Laney gnome-calendar | 3.18.2.1-1      | xenial          | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x10:24
Laney gnome-calendar | 3.18.2.1-1      | xenial/universe | source10:24
seb128why does it let you promote binaries without the corresponding source?10:24
Laneyis it an extra flag or something?10:24
seb128yes10:24
seb128which I keep forgetting10:24
Laneyannoying10:24
seb128that should be the default10:24
Laneyyou want to write some python? :)10:24
seb128is it technically right to promote a binary without the source?10:25
seb128lol10:25
Laneyfor demoting10:25
Laneywhich is the same tool right?10:25
seb128right10:26
seb128but it could be clever and look at the component :p10:26
Laneyyeah10:26
LaneyI guess it could do this check10:26
didrocksI guess even for promoting10:26
didrocksthe default is to put binary package name10:26
didrocksnot source package name10:26
LaneygooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooo python coders10:26
seb128well, if you promote a binary you likely want the source in main as well10:26
didrocks(because if you put the source package name, it means, you want all binary packages to be promoted)10:26
didrocksbut10:26
didrocksI agree it should prevent to promote a binary if the source isn't promoted10:27
seb128so technically it could guess at least warn you that you miss the source10:27
didrocksI would go further than a warning :)10:27
seb128right10:27
Laneybinary in main but source not in main is always wrong AFAIK10:27
seb128anyway, fixed that one10:27
seb128Laney, thanks for pointing it out10:27
Laneylike you can't do restricted to main either10:27
didrocksseb128: and yeah +1 on the tool being confusing10:27
didrocksI keep using --help each time10:27
didrocksbecause I don't remember if it's the source or binary10:27
Laneyso it could special case a binary override to main to have a look at the source too10:28
Laneymaybe if I was in the team I would be motivated to look at such things10:28
Laney:) :) :) :) :)10:28
didrocksI'm happy to add it on my TODO10:29
didrocksjust need to remember about it10:29
LaneyWHAT10:30
Laneythe christmas tree guys only took one of the halves10:30
czajkowskiLaney: clearly needed to add a ribbon on it :)11:11
* Laney burns it11:28
* didrocks is really happy with the new 2 contributors (a lot of force and back, and I even guide/add some code, but it's nice to see people very productive ;))11:37
Laney\o/11:38
Laneyare you going to give anyone commit access?11:38
didrocksLaney: if one stick around, yeah :)11:42
didrocks(there was a good one I almost gave commit access, but then, he had some health issues and couldn't really focus on this anymore :/)11:42
didrocksthere is a lot of "just one contribution" which is mostly implementing their preferred framework11:43
didrocksthose who go deeper (like the 2 guys right now) are quite rare11:43
andyrockmorning12:12
Laneyandyrock: LIES!12:13
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czajkowskiLaney: at fosdem this year?12:35
Laneyczajkowski: aye12:36
Laneylooking forward to a bar packed full of geeks?12:36
Laneyhope they have piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink killer again12:36
czajkowski:D12:37
Laneyczajkowski: you doing anything in particular there or just attending?12:41
czajkowskiLaney: just attending12:41
czajkowskia weekend of waffles, beer and good chats12:42
czajkowskican't go wrong really :)12:42
Laney\o/12:43
Laneywhat eurostar you got on the way out?12:43
* Laney is on 12:5812:44
czajkowskiLaney: not sure yet need to book that as may be coming from the US, still working on travel for Q1 trying to plan out 3 months is a lot of work :P)12:51
Laneyyou jetsetter12:51
czajkowskiLaney: ah dude gettit it all over and done with in 3 months as getting married in April I need time off then :)12:51
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Laneyczajkowski: ah, you should be worrying about whether auntie jean can sit near to great uncle robert after the sherry incident in 1973 then12:59
czajkowskiLaney: I'll deal with that in March, can't be that hard to work out and the majority of my issues is sitting people side by side and not cause a war brek out with discussions of which editor to use Vim or Emacs or which distro to use. the majority coming are geeks!13:00
Laneythat13:00
Laneyis a cool table name theme13:00
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hikiko|lnoh noes i forgot the status :)14:01
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seb128chrisccoulson, hey, did you see that the new firefox failed to build on arm64 with "webrtc/trunk/build/build_config.h:160:2: error: #error Please add support for your architecture in build/build_config.h"?14:30
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chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, i'm aware of that14:56
seb128k14:56
seb128that blocks it in proposed14:56
desrtattente: good morning15:14
attentedesrt: good morning15:15
didrockshey desrt, attente15:16
attentehi didrocks15:16
attenteseb128: hey, can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-settings-daemon/1226962/+merge/280783 when you have time?15:25
seb128hey attente, sure15:25
attenteseb128: awesome, thanks!15:26
seb128tkamppeter, cups is missing from current xenial images is that a known issue?15:28
seb128 cups-filters : Depends: liblouisutdml-bin but it is not installable15:29
seb128tkamppeter, seems like cups-filters (which is in main) depends on liblouisutdml-bin which is in universe15:29
Laneybrrrr cold today15:40
seb128wet here15:40
seb128it keeps raining :-/15:40
didrocksit was raining like crazy here, now it's okish15:41
alexarnaudhey all !15:42
Laneyyeah same15:42
Laneysome blue sky now and everything15:42
Laneyprobably why it got cold15:42
alexarnaudseb128, didrocks: it's the same weather at Paris15:42
didrocksalexarnaud: it's not unusual for Paris though ;-)15:42
alexarnaudLaney: geeks are in garage or cellar, the blue sky is not useful here lol15:44
Laneyheh15:50
Laneymy cellar is pretty grim15:50
Laneysounds about right15:50
desrtno willcooke today?16:33
didrocksdesrt: he said on Monday's email that he might not be around today (and the calendar seems to confirm)16:36
andyrockdesrt: he's off today16:36
desrtah.  right.16:36
* desrt might also need to disappear for (what is likely to be the better part of) the afternoon to wait in line at the passport office16:36
desrtm-f 9-5, go figure.16:37
seb128larsu, so, what's the status of the nautilus menubar? how much more work needed before it's ready?16:40
larsuseb128: yes but I think I'll have something tomorrow16:40
larsuthis whole view separation in nautilus is really annoying16:40
seb128k, great16:41
* Laney remembers to check the date on his password16:41
Laneypassport16:41
Laney!!!16:41
Laneypassword's date is quite old too though :-/16:41
Laneythe envelope that I thought had it in instead contained a laptop hard drive16:43
seb128somebody played a joke on you!16:43
didrocksinteresting things at Laney's office :)16:43
didrocksit seems you have a weird way of organizing your papers ;)16:44
Laneydoh16:45
seb128Laney, iz CC meeting time :p17:03
Laneyoh yeah17:03
qenghoThe bureaucracy in the US is usually not too bad, but *renewing* an existing passport for my 7-year-old son a few days ago was surprisingly complicated.17:08
tkamppeterseb128, this is already fixed in the Debian repo of cups-filters. As soon as OdyX uploads the next package it syncs into Ubuntu with the Braille part split into a separate binary package.17:25
seb128tkamppeter, ok, meanwhile the xenial images have no printing stack17:28
didrockstime to go guys, have a good evening!17:38
seb128didrocks, thanks for joining the CC meeting17:38
seb128have a nice evening!17:38
didrocksyw seb128, you too :)17:39
seb128thanks Laney as wel17:40
seb128l17:40
Laneyah crap17:40
Laneydmb now17:41
seb128lol17:41
* Laney thinks seb128 should nominate for the TB17:48
seb128nah17:51
seb128you need to be a big fish to do that17:51
seb128Laney, you should!17:52
LaneyI'm just a krill17:53
seb128and modest with that :-)17:54
Laneya krill that is going to climb tonight17:54
Laneyraaaaaaargh17:54
seb128enjoy!17:55
ogra_and beware of the whales !17:55
seb128no tennis for me tonight, windy, rainy, cold17:56
Laneythe seb128s17:56
Laneyand the ogra_s17:56
Laneyan even bigger whale!17:56
seb128lol17:56
ogra_:D17:56
Laneyooh it's going to be cold tonight17:58
Laneymight wear my gloves on the bike for the first time17:58
alexarnaudtkamppeter: what's about package cups and braile ? Is it the same as we have in Debian ?17:59
alexarnaud*braille17:59
seb128alexarnaud, yes, cups is in sync, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cups17:59
alexarnaudseb128: good news18:00
seb128alexarnaud, do you work on cups?18:01
alexarnaudseb128: what's is it not always the case ? Why some package like Compiz or Corebird are uploaded in Debian and sync after ? As I know Debian does'nt provide sync from Ubuntu bacause it's the root, is'nt it ?18:02
Laneyriiiiiiiight later!18:02
Laneys18:02
alexarnaudseb128: no but I'm aware of braille development on it.18:02
seb128Laney, enjoy!18:02
alexarnaudseb128: a friend's and Hypra collegue provide the braille printer to youpi that create the bridge in cups18:03
seb128alexarnaud, sometime we are in direct sync, sometime Ubuntu do change (or package newer versions than Debian)18:03
seb128but yeah, ideally we are in sync18:03
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tkamppeteralexarnaud, yes, it is part of the cups-drivers package upstream.18:31
tkamppeteralexarnaud, s/cups-drvers/cups-filters/.18:47
alexarnaudgood nigth everyone, see you online !19:15
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davmor2Laney oh pretty the phone shows as a phone in the launcher now \o/19:48
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