[05:36] <hikiko> hello
[06:02] <didrocks> good morning
[07:18] <pitti> Good morning
[07:18] <didrocks> hey pitti
[07:19] <seb128> hey pitti didrocks desktopers
[07:19] <pitti> bonjour à France !
[07:20] <seb128> how was your day off?
[07:20] <seb128> did you have some king cake? ;-)
[07:23] <pitti> seb128: heh, no, but I did build my NCC 1701D metal sheet model
[07:23]  * pitti will post pics on G+ today
[07:23] <pitti> and we did a nice long walk, and I prodded the php and perl transitions a bit
[07:24] <pitti> they *finally* landed, phew!
[07:24] <seb128> nice
[08:20] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <didrocks> hey dholbach
[08:23] <dholbach> salut didrocks
[08:26] <seb128> hey dholbach
[08:27] <dholbach> salut seb128
[08:27] <seb128> dholbach, ça va bien ?
[08:27] <dholbach> oui, très bien - et toi?
[08:27] <seb128> oui :-)
[09:03] <Laney> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:04] <hikiko> hi Laney :p
[09:05] <didrocks> good morning Laney, hey hikiko!
[09:05] <hikiko> hi didrocks :)
[09:05] <seb128> hey Laney hikiko
[09:05] <hikiko> hi seb128 :)
[09:08] <Laney> alright dudes
[09:08] <Laney> what's going on?
[09:09] <seb128> reviewing recent bugs and e.u.c entries
[09:09] <seb128> but I might switch to some sponsoring/merging in a bit
[09:09] <seb128> what about you?
[09:10] <Laney> seeing if slomo fixed gstreamer yet
[09:10] <Laney> they broke totem :-o
[09:11]  * didrocks enhances umake code for maintainability + plymouth upload + some google code in reviews
[09:12] <seb128> not cool!
[09:13] <Laney> didrocks your code could not be better
[09:13] <seb128> didrocks, seems like the plymouth merge is settling down, good work ;-)
[09:13] <Laney> I had it printed up as wallpaper
[09:13] <Laney> and now it is covering my bedroom
[09:13] <seb128> haha
[09:13] <didrocks> seb128: thanks! it could have been way worse, indeed :-)
[09:14] <didrocks> Laney: ahah :p
[09:14] <didrocks> Laney: I'm quite happy to be able to run tests in an autopkgtests test bed without loosing any functionality :)
[09:15] <didrocks> I just need to add some shortcuts to runtests so that you don't have to specify all options when running from a branch
[10:23] <Laney> seb128: looks like you missed the gnome-calendar source promotion?
[10:23] <Laney> thx for doing it!
[10:24] <seb128> I hate those tools
[10:24] <seb128> uw
[10:24] <seb128> yw
[10:24] <Laney>  gnome-calendar | 3.18.2.1-1      | xenial          | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
[10:24] <Laney>  gnome-calendar | 3.18.2.1-1      | xenial/universe | source
[10:24] <seb128> why does it let you promote binaries without the corresponding source?
[10:24] <Laney> is it an extra flag or something?
[10:24] <seb128> yes
[10:24] <seb128> which I keep forgetting
[10:24] <Laney> annoying
[10:24] <seb128> that should be the default
[10:24] <Laney> you want to write some python? :)
[10:25] <seb128> is it technically right to promote a binary without the source?
[10:25] <seb128> lol
[10:25] <Laney> for demoting
[10:25] <Laney> which is the same tool right?
[10:26] <seb128> right
[10:26] <seb128> but it could be clever and look at the component :p
[10:26] <Laney> yeah
[10:26] <Laney> I guess it could do this check
[10:26] <didrocks> I guess even for promoting
[10:26] <didrocks> the default is to put binary package name
[10:26] <didrocks> not source package name
[10:26] <Laney> gooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOoooo python coders
[10:26] <seb128> well, if you promote a binary you likely want the source in main as well
[10:26] <didrocks> (because if you put the source package name, it means, you want all binary packages to be promoted)
[10:26] <didrocks> but
[10:27] <didrocks> I agree it should prevent to promote a binary if the source isn't promoted
[10:27] <seb128> so technically it could guess at least warn you that you miss the source
[10:27] <didrocks> I would go further than a warning :)
[10:27] <seb128> right
[10:27] <Laney> binary in main but source not in main is always wrong AFAIK
[10:27] <seb128> anyway, fixed that one
[10:27] <seb128> Laney, thanks for pointing it out
[10:27] <Laney> like you can't do restricted to main either
[10:27] <didrocks> seb128: and yeah +1 on the tool being confusing
[10:27] <didrocks> I keep using --help each time
[10:27] <didrocks> because I don't remember if it's the source or binary
[10:28] <Laney> so it could special case a binary override to main to have a look at the source too
[10:28] <Laney> maybe if I was in the team I would be motivated to look at such things
[10:28] <Laney> :) :) :) :) :)
[10:29] <didrocks> I'm happy to add it on my TODO
[10:29] <didrocks> just need to remember about it
[10:30] <Laney> WHAT
[10:30] <Laney> the christmas tree guys only took one of the halves
[11:11] <czajkowski> Laney: clearly needed to add a ribbon on it :)
[11:28]  * Laney burns it
[11:37]  * didrocks is really happy with the new 2 contributors (a lot of force and back, and I even guide/add some code, but it's nice to see people very productive ;))
[11:38] <Laney> \o/
[11:38] <Laney> are you going to give anyone commit access?
[11:42] <didrocks> Laney: if one stick around, yeah :)
[11:42] <didrocks> (there was a good one I almost gave commit access, but then, he had some health issues and couldn't really focus on this anymore :/)
[11:43] <didrocks> there is a lot of "just one contribution" which is mostly implementing their preferred framework
[11:43] <didrocks> those who go deeper (like the 2 guys right now) are quite rare
[12:12] <andyrock> morning
[12:13] <Laney> andyrock: LIES!
[12:35] <czajkowski> Laney: at fosdem this year?
[12:36] <Laney> czajkowski: aye
[12:36] <Laney> looking forward to a bar packed full of geeks?
[12:36] <Laney> hope they have piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiink killer again
[12:37] <czajkowski> :D
[12:41] <Laney> czajkowski: you doing anything in particular there or just attending?
[12:41] <czajkowski> Laney: just attending
[12:42] <czajkowski> a weekend of waffles, beer and good chats
[12:42] <czajkowski> can't go wrong really :)
[12:43] <Laney> \o/
[12:43] <Laney> what eurostar you got on the way out?
[12:44]  * Laney is on 12:58
[12:51] <czajkowski> Laney: not sure yet need to book that as may be coming from the US, still working on travel for Q1 trying to plan out 3 months is a lot of work :P)
[12:51] <Laney> you jetsetter
[12:51] <czajkowski> Laney: ah dude gettit it all over and done with in 3 months as getting married in April I need time off then :)
[12:59] <Laney> czajkowski: ah, you should be worrying about whether auntie jean can sit near to great uncle robert after the sherry incident in 1973 then
[13:00] <czajkowski> Laney: I'll deal with that in March, can't be that hard to work out and the majority of my issues is sitting people side by side and not cause a war brek out with discussions of which editor to use Vim or Emacs or which distro to use. the majority coming are geeks!
[13:00] <Laney> that
[13:00] <Laney> is a cool table name theme
[14:01] <hikiko|ln> oh noes i forgot the status :)
[14:30] <seb128> chrisccoulson, hey, did you see that the new firefox failed to build on arm64 with "webrtc/trunk/build/build_config.h:160:2: error: #error Please add support for your architecture in build/build_config.h"?
[14:56] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, i'm aware of that
[14:56] <seb128> k
[14:56] <seb128> that blocks it in proposed
[15:14] <desrt> attente: good morning
[15:15] <attente> desrt: good morning
[15:16] <didrocks> hey desrt, attente
[15:16] <attente> hi didrocks
[15:25] <attente> seb128: hey, can you take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-settings-daemon/1226962/+merge/280783 when you have time?
[15:25] <seb128> hey attente, sure
[15:26] <attente> seb128: awesome, thanks!
[15:28] <seb128> tkamppeter, cups is missing from current xenial images is that a known issue?
[15:29] <seb128>  cups-filters : Depends: liblouisutdml-bin but it is not installable
[15:29] <seb128> tkamppeter, seems like cups-filters (which is in main) depends on liblouisutdml-bin which is in universe
[15:40] <Laney> brrrr cold today
[15:40] <seb128> wet here
[15:40] <seb128> it keeps raining :-/
[15:41] <didrocks> it was raining like crazy here, now it's okish
[15:42] <alexarnaud> hey all !
[15:42] <Laney> yeah same
[15:42] <Laney> some blue sky now and everything
[15:42] <Laney> probably why it got cold
[15:42] <alexarnaud> seb128, didrocks: it's the same weather at Paris
[15:42] <didrocks> alexarnaud: it's not unusual for Paris though ;-)
[15:44] <alexarnaud> Laney: geeks are in garage or cellar, the blue sky is not useful here lol
[15:50] <Laney> heh
[15:50] <Laney> my cellar is pretty grim
[15:50] <Laney> sounds about right
[16:33] <desrt> no willcooke today?
[16:36] <didrocks> desrt: he said on Monday's email that he might not be around today (and the calendar seems to confirm)
[16:36] <andyrock> desrt: he's off today
[16:36] <desrt> ah.  right.
[16:36]  * desrt might also need to disappear for (what is likely to be the better part of) the afternoon to wait in line at the passport office
[16:37] <desrt> m-f 9-5, go figure.
[16:40] <seb128> larsu, so, what's the status of the nautilus menubar? how much more work needed before it's ready?
[16:40] <larsu> seb128: yes but I think I'll have something tomorrow
[16:40] <larsu> this whole view separation in nautilus is really annoying
[16:41] <seb128> k, great
[16:41]  * Laney remembers to check the date on his password
[16:41] <Laney> passport
[16:41] <Laney> !!!
[16:41] <Laney> password's date is quite old too though :-/
[16:43] <Laney> the envelope that I thought had it in instead contained a laptop hard drive
[16:43] <seb128> somebody played a joke on you!
[16:43] <didrocks> interesting things at Laney's office :)
[16:44] <didrocks> it seems you have a weird way of organizing your papers ;)
[16:45] <Laney> doh
[17:03] <seb128> Laney, iz CC meeting time :p
[17:03] <Laney> oh yeah
[17:08] <qengho> The bureaucracy in the US is usually not too bad, but *renewing* an existing passport for my 7-year-old son a few days ago was surprisingly complicated.
[17:25] <tkamppeter> seb128, this is already fixed in the Debian repo of cups-filters. As soon as OdyX uploads the next package it syncs into Ubuntu with the Braille part split into a separate binary package.
[17:28] <seb128> tkamppeter, ok, meanwhile the xenial images have no printing stack
[17:38] <didrocks> time to go guys, have a good evening!
[17:38] <seb128> didrocks, thanks for joining the CC meeting
[17:38] <seb128> have a nice evening!
[17:39] <didrocks> yw seb128, you too :)
[17:40] <seb128> thanks Laney as wel
[17:40] <seb128> l
[17:40] <Laney> ah crap
[17:41] <Laney> dmb now
[17:41] <seb128> lol
[17:48]  * Laney thinks seb128 should nominate for the TB
[17:51] <seb128> nah
[17:51] <seb128> you need to be a big fish to do that
[17:52] <seb128> Laney, you should!
[17:53] <Laney> I'm just a krill
[17:54] <seb128> and modest with that :-)
[17:54] <Laney> a krill that is going to climb tonight
[17:54] <Laney> raaaaaaargh
[17:55] <seb128> enjoy!
[17:55] <ogra_> and beware of the whales !
[17:56] <seb128> no tennis for me tonight, windy, rainy, cold
[17:56] <Laney> the seb128s
[17:56] <Laney> and the ogra_s
[17:56] <Laney> an even bigger whale!
[17:56] <seb128> lol
[17:56] <ogra_> :D
[17:58] <Laney> ooh it's going to be cold tonight
[17:58] <Laney> might wear my gloves on the bike for the first time
[17:59] <alexarnaud> tkamppeter: what's about package cups and braile ? Is it the same as we have in Debian ?
[17:59] <alexarnaud> *braille
[17:59] <seb128> alexarnaud, yes, cups is in sync, see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/cups
[18:00] <alexarnaud> seb128: good news
[18:01] <seb128> alexarnaud, do you work on cups?
[18:02] <alexarnaud> seb128: what's is it not always the case ? Why some package like Compiz or Corebird are uploaded in Debian and sync after ? As I know Debian does'nt provide sync from Ubuntu bacause it's the root, is'nt it ?
[18:02] <Laney> riiiiiiiight later!
[18:02] <Laney> s
[18:02] <alexarnaud> seb128: no but I'm aware of braille development on it.
[18:02] <seb128> Laney, enjoy!
[18:03] <alexarnaud> seb128: a friend's and Hypra collegue provide the braille printer to youpi that create the bridge in cups
[18:03] <seb128> alexarnaud, sometime we are in direct sync, sometime Ubuntu do change (or package newer versions than Debian)
[18:03] <seb128> but yeah, ideally we are in sync
[18:31] <tkamppeter> alexarnaud, yes, it is part of the cups-drivers package upstream.
[18:47] <tkamppeter> alexarnaud, s/cups-drvers/cups-filters/.
[19:15] <alexarnaud> good nigth everyone, see you online !
[19:48] <davmor2> Laney oh pretty the phone shows as a phone in the launcher now \o/