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bluesabreevening all00:09
bluesabreknome: yes, annoying bug, hard to debug, and gvfs related iirc00:10
bluesabreflocculant: yes, would be good to announce the end of vivid00:13
bluesabrepoor monkey00:13
Unit193Ubuntu 15.04 "Vivid Vervet" 1600:14
bluesabreflocculant: a2 might be worthwhile if I can get some releases/uploads done, but for now, not so much00:16
Unit193bluesabre: You may need to bump the version on your parole daily, no?00:19
* bluesabre is scared to see what the number is at there00:20
Unit193https://launchpadlibrarian.net/232848351/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-amd64.xfce4-power-manager_1.4.4+git-0~1974~ubuntu16.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz00:24
flocculantbluesabre: re a2 - ok, leave that final decision to you then, we'll be wanting to know w/c 18th Jan 07:59
knomepleia2, i'm thinking we could move to using svg artwork for the website. what do you think?18:49
pleia2knome: you know better than I whether all (or majority of) the browsers would support it18:50
knomepleia2, it means around 2-2.5% of users won't see the artwork at all or as planned18:50
knomehttp://caniuse.com/#feat=svg18:50
pleia2ok18:50
pleia2what's the benefit?18:51
knomefirst, file size and leanness18:51
pleia2aren't those the same thing? ;)18:51
knomesecond, it's time to stop doing legacy things because some booooring old browsers do not support them18:51
pleia2story of your life, I'm sure18:51
knomeand of course, svg is vector18:51
knomethis affects the "featured" images the most18:52
pleia2are we planning on doing things where scaling matters?18:52
Unit193Hrm, even 8 doesn't support it?  Still likely acceptable enough.18:52
knomepleia2, what i just said18:52
pleia2ok18:52
knomeand one thing we could support *better* is big resolutions18:53
pleia2yeah18:53
knomethink: retina/ultrahd18:53
pleia2sounds good to me18:53
knomeok, i'll plan the required changes for the next deploy18:53
knomebasically only the logo svg is something we need to change18:53
knomethe rest come from wordpress already18:54
knomeso it's just a matter of switching18:54
pleia2"Effective January 12, 2016, Internet Explorer 8 will no longer be supported on any version of Windows,"18:54
* pleia2 looks at the calendar18:54
knomeyep, but more people are still using it than IE9 or IE10 individually18:54
pleia2ok, well, if we get too many complaints, we'll just tell them not to use an EOL browser :P18:55
knomeheh18:55
pleia2this is a nice site, thanks18:55
knomei don't think this will be an issue18:55
knomenp :P18:56
* genii sips18:58
=== dkessel_ is now known as dkessel
knomeaahhh, that was easier than i thought19:50
knomeeg. no extra fuzzing19:50
knomenow if wordpress only showed previews for svg images in the media manager :)19:50
knomewill look at that later (probably today), now off for some food shopping19:51
knomepleia2, umm, should mod_rewrite work on the dev server?20:19
pleia2knome: look in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled directory20:19
pleia2I didn't set it up, don't remember if it's default or not20:19
knomeapparently not20:20
pleia2can fix post current meeting if needed20:20
pleia2k20:20
knomewfm20:20
Unit193Is there a link to things yet?20:22
knomestaging.xubuntu.org20:22
knomestatic.xubuntu.org is served from that server20:22
knomeas is tracker.xubuntu.org20:22
knomeand docs.xubuntu.org20:22
knomesoon wiki.xubuntu.org20:23
Unit193Ah yes, that last one.20:23
knomepleia2, ping me when you are around22:07
pleia2knome: enabled rewrite22:24
pleia2I still need to go through the wiki doc to see what I need to enable22:24
knomethanks22:24
knomeor you can give $somebody sudo rights and get on with it :)22:25
pleia2yeah, we haven't quite discussed who would help me admin the machine22:25
pleia2should do :)22:25
knomei'm available for that, but we obviously should talk about how we want to spread the maintaining22:27
pleia2but you're a web dev, and web devs spend all day chmod 777 everything22:27
* pleia2 hides22:27
Unit193Hahah. :D22:28
knomesure...22:28
knomei've done my silly things for life already22:29
pleia2oh ok22:29
pleia2Adding user knome to group sudo22:30
knomethanks22:30
knomenow if i only knew my password!22:30
pleia2haha22:30
Unit193pleia2: For ssh, pass auth enabled?22:31
pleia2Unit193: for now, but I set everyone up with ssh keys so no one is using them22:32
Unit193Nice.22:33
knomefeel free to shut down pass auth22:33
knomei won't want to use it anyway22:33
pleia2k22:33
pleia2anyway, off now22:38
pleia2still allow root login, but only from my home IP (for backups)22:38
knomehf!22:38
pleia2I meant, the auth is off ;)22:38
pleia2not me22:38
knomeoh22:38
knomehaha22:38
Unit193Might be the only one that's not off mentally...22:41
pleia2we're all mad here22:42
knomeyep!22:43
knomeo/22:43
knomehelloooo22:43
bluesabreevening all23:30
bluesabreknome: I'd feel bad if our site handled retina/ultrahd and xfce still did not :D23:30
knomebluesabre, boo hoo! :)23:31
knomebluesabre, any specific dokuwiki conf you are fond od?23:32
knome*of23:32
bluesabreknome: if it works, that's fine by me23:32
knomehah23:32
sidiA question for packagers23:56
sidisay xubuntu-desktop depends on Foo.23:56
sidiand then the package is updated, and the updated package no longer depends on Foo23:56
knomexubuntu-desktop depends on Foo.23:56
sidiwill Foo be automatically purged on the next apt-get upgrade?23:56
knomethere, i said it!!23:56
* sidi whips knome with a power cord23:56
* sidi keeps whipping heinously23:57
bluesabresidi: nope23:57
sidioh wait, this is not -offtopic23:57
bluesabreit will get purged with autoremove though23:57
sidibluesabre, ok, so if I really wanted to make sure users dont have Foo, I should tell them to apt-get autoremove as well23:57
sidithanks!23:57
bluesabreor use some combination of Conflict or Breaks to force it away... but don't do that23:58
sidibluesabre, tell me more? :p23:58
sidibluesabre, anyway i can tell my participants to remove that package. just was curious if it'd be automatic or not. no biggy if the new meta package is installed with the old package still there, i'm only cleaning up23:59
bluesabresidi: yeah, that should be fine23:59
bluesabreinstall xubuntu 6.06, then upgrade each release up and have 5 music players23:59

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