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Skyriderkrytarik00:00
SkyriderWhat's the difference between the first 2?00:00
krytarikSkyrider: You can read "updates" there.00:01
SkyriderIndeed I can, but there's a difference: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451773/what-is-the-difference-between-fglrx-and-fglrx-updates00:01
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SkyriderGreat00:16
Skyridernow I can no longer access the desktop..00:16
SkyriderIt keeps launching kodi, most likely because it auto logs in.00:16
genii!info kodi00:17
ubottukodi (source: kodi): Open Source Home Theatre (arch-independent data package). In component universe, is optional. Version 15.1+dfsg1-3 (wily), package size 10706 kB, installed size 25364 kB00:17
Skyriderits kubuntu related :)00:17
geniiI just never heard of kodi before :)00:17
geniiLooks sort of like a Mythbuntu00:18
Skyrideropen source media center.00:18
SkyriderBut I tagged auto-login on kubuntu, while 'kodi' was selected in the list00:18
SkyriderIt most likely keeps autologging into kodi now, rather than back to the desktop.00:18
Skyriderfound it: Session=kodi.desktop00:19
ubernoobhi. each time i try to record vinyls in kubuntu linux installed from repository, it works for a minute or so and then i stop seeing new soundwaves on the screen and it stops there. any ideas? Dont want to have to use windows just for this purpose :(00:22
SkyriderI am glad I have chosen the fglrx drivers.00:24
anykeyfgh00:54
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Lirushey, im trying to use make on wireless-regdb but it gives me an Missing parentheses in call to 'print' caused in a python file. After research i think its because my default python version is 3.5 and needed is 2.7. So how do i change the default python version?05:33
Graf_WesterholtI am missing the crypto settings in KAddressBook for person data.05:37
ChronotossHey guys! I'm a little new to linux, love Kubuntu! I was hoping someone could help me with a little problem, my desktop isn't saving its config on restarts, changes from folder view (what I want) back to desktop view. THough a bit odd as it only happens to my main monitor, my second one just puts the color of the background back to default. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to fix this; please!06:13
hateballChronotoss: Are you on 14.04 or 15.10 ?06:15
Chronotoss15.10, plasma 5.4.206:15
hateballChronotoss: Is this a fresh install, or an upgrade from a previous version?06:15
ChronotossFresh.06:16
hateballHmmm, odd. I don't have a 15.10 machine handy to test with sadly.06:17
hateballChronotoss: Have you tried logging in as a different user, to see if the problem persists?06:17
Graf_Westerholthateball, you can use a VM to test. ;)06:17
hateballGraf_Westerholt: brb installing a hypervisor and setting up a VM with multiple monitors06:18
hateballGraf_Westerholt: Feel free to help instead06:18
ChronotossIs hypervisor good? I've never used it.06:19
ChronotossCould I supply any other information to help?06:20
Graf_Westerholthateball, can you not just set two displays in a VM?06:20
Graf_WesterholtI have two displays and Kubuntu 15.10 (upgrade from 15.04) and not this problem.06:20
Graf_WesterholtHere the configuration is saved.06:21
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss, are you using the backports?06:22
ChronotossGraf_westerholt: I do not know, where should I check for that?06:23
Graf_Westerholt!backports06:24
ubottuIf new updated packages are built for an application, they may go into Kubuntu Backports, which is one of the official Kubuntu PPAs. See https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs for more information.06:24
ChronotossOkay let me check the ppa list..06:24
ChronotossNo I do not see a backports ppa. Should I add it?06:25
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss, I think it would be good because with an update, there might be less bugs.06:26
ChronotossAdded and updating.06:27
ChronotossUpdated, should I relog and see if that fixed it?06:29
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss, yes.06:30
ChronotossOkay, brb!06:30
Chronotoss_No that did not fix it.06:32
Chronotoss_Is there a single config file that tells the desktop how to look/behave?06:33
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss, sorry to hear that.06:33
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss, but your “update” was fast. Did it install updates?06:34
Chronotoss_Graf_Westerholt: This is why I like Linux, sometimes things happens, and I like to solve problems!06:34
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss :D06:34
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss, did you do “apt-get update” and “apt-get upgrade”?06:34
Chronotoss_Graf_Westerholt: ^^ Yes. I was thinking I could write the config file the way I want it and remove write permission since I dont change my desktop.06:35
hateballChronotoss: There are various configs in ~/.config, plasmarc being one06:35
hateballhmmm, actually it might not be named plasmarc in 5... at any rate, configs are located in kde/plasma subdirs06:37
Chronotoss_If it helps, this happened after an update that gave me higher dpi. It was last week if i'm not mistaken.06:38
hateballAlso this is why I asked if you had tried a different user, so you could see if it was a config problem before updating your software stack06:39
Chronotoss_I'll create a new user and try it give me a minute I'll brb!06:40
ChronotossAlright! Good news everyone! I just got back from my test user and problem does not exisit through relog! So the question becomes, easiest wat to reset my desktop stack and start over fresh for my current user; or better option.06:48
Chronotossway*06:49
hateballChronotoss: you were able to apply settings, but they do not apply across sessions?06:49
ChronotossWith the test user, I applied settings that I do with current user, relogged and settings saved and desktop pulled up as wanted.06:50
hateballI would make sure permissions for your config files are correct, so that they are owned by you06:50
ChronotossSo just check the permissions on the ~/.config folder?06:51
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss, each file and directory can have it’s own permissions, you have to check every file and directory.06:52
hateballChronotoss: yeah, you could "find ./ -user root" and see if anything turns up. normally nothing in your ~/ should be owned by any other user, but if you've run things as root/sudo things may have gotten messed up06:52
hateballChronotoss: rather find ~/.config06:53
ChronotossSO unlike active directory I need to go through each file, no batch way to do it?06:54
hateballOf course you dont have to go through every file manually06:55
hateballThat's absurd06:55
ChronotossI would think you wouldn't have to.06:55
hateballChronotoss: If you just want to default your install you can log out and move away the kde/plasma config dirs, but it's nicer to fix the permissions so you don't lose any configs06:57
hateballChronotoss: So, does find show any root owned files in your ~/ ?06:58
Chronotoss./.cache/dconf06:58
hateballChronotoss: yeah, that's not good. And it's likely because you've run something (dolphin maybe?) using sudo07:00
Chronotosswhat's the correct chmod command to make it correct if you would be so kind?07:01
hateballChronotoss: "sudo chown username:username /path/to/file"07:02
hateballso for instance "sudo chown Chronotoss:Chronotoss ~/.cache/dconf"07:02
ChronotossAlright, Going to make the changes and see what happens brb!07:03
hateballYou might need to reload the session, not sure07:03
Chronotosslog out and back in?07:04
hateballYes07:04
Chronotosskay!07:04
Chronotoss_so desktop one saved correctly, and not desktop two.07:08
hateballHmmm07:08
hateballChronotoss: But this worked for the newly created user?07:08
Chronotoss_Yes. Could it be the NVidia X serv config?07:09
hateballChronotoss_: Are you using the nvidia blob, or nouveau ?07:11
Chronotoss_driver marked recomended, aka blob07:11
hateballAlright07:11
hateballHmmm, I am on intel on this machine, I don't remember where nvidia-settings stores the config...07:11
hateballI am thinking if you had run that as sudo, it may be messed up as well. Altho that should really only result in having no display on the second monitor, not affect plasmas behavior07:12
Chronotoss_That was my second thought as looking through the settings it doesn't seems to have any bearing.07:13
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss_, if you want to run a program as root, on KDE, you have to use kdesudo to avoid problems with permissions.07:13
Chronotoss_Noted! I'm more used to deb so I'm slowly learning K and other Ubuntu distros07:14
denza242is there any way to blacklist devices from xinput07:15
Graf_WesterholtChronotoss_, great! :)07:21
Chronotoss_Though I ran that find command one more time and it shows that dconf is still root owned ...07:22
Chronotoss_Should I move into root and try the chown again? maybe that will stick?07:29
hateballChronotoss_: You could try logging out, then either rm or chown that file from tty1 or as the other user you created07:29
Chronotoss_rm ... remove it? and I'm sorry I have no Idea what tty1 is.07:30
hateballoh, if you press ctrl+alt+f1 you get to a text console. ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X/GUI07:31
Chronotoss_now i need paper ....07:31
hateballChronotoss_: yes, it's a cached file so it should recreate itself if you move or remove it07:31
Chronotoss_okay ... I'll brb!07:31
ChronotossOkay, switching back to X showed a mouse and nothing more, so I had to reboot. BUT it didn't solve root own or monitor one not saving. Any other ideas? Or is it time to reset Plasma?07:44
ChronotossAlright Hateball, I nuked plasma settings, now it's saving everything except the background color. XD08:26
hateballChronotoss: heh08:28
hateballAs I said, I dont have a plasma5 machine handy so I cant help much more08:28
ChronotossRight!? and it's still on monitor one08:28
SmurphyChronotoss: Delete the cache - after that many things will beheave better.08:28
ChronotossI've done that Smurphy, and nuked that when I nuked the plasma settings to be safe.08:29
ChronotossAny one else have a finger to point me to some reading or an idea to help?08:32
SmurphyChronotoss: Didn't follow the entire thread, sorry ;)08:38
ChronotossPretty easy, running 5.10, plasma isn't saving desktop settings through log ins and after going through and nuking everything, it saves except monitor ones background color. Using nvidia blob recomended.08:41
SmurphyHmmm. Where can I see which Plasma version I'm running ?08:43
ChronotossKinfocenter08:43
SmurphyI know I have just upgraded to the last fixes ...08:43
SmurphyGot PLasma 5.4.3 ... :}08:44
SmurphySo no 5.10 :)08:44
Chronotosssorry, not 5.10 ... 15.1008:44
Chronotossplasma is 5.4.308:45
lordievaderGood morning.08:45
SmurphyGot that one too, and it works here. However I'm using Intel Graphics on a mac-mini 6,2.08:45
SmurphyNo problems here.08:45
ChronotossYea I'm pretty sure I messed it up some where ... Just don't know where. I'm still learning so I"m not too sure on what else to do now ... and the forums on this subject is pretty empty.08:47
Smurphyyes. You already wipe the .config/plasma directory ?08:47
Smurphyand restarted from scratch ?08:47
ChronotossYup.08:47
SmurphyHmmmm...08:48
ChronotossRight? I've always been under the assumption that if all else fails, nuke it.08:51
Smurphylol :)08:51
SmurphyI tend to shoot first, ask questions later :}08:51
SmurphyCowboy: that's how they call me at work.08:52
ChronotossI just wish there was more information around on the net so I could tinker and look more, but I'm currently hitting my head on a brick wall. I'm thinking about just taking the write permissions away from all plasma files once i have it set up and never change it.08:53
Smurphylol :D08:57
Chronotoss^^08:57
ChronotossMaybe if some more people get active I'll ask around again.08:59
Dylan____Hey guys09:01
Dylan____Im a bit curious can a 2010 macbook pro 7,1 run the latest kubuntu?09:02
Dylan____Im not really sure so i came to ask you guys figuring you can help me09:02
hateball!mac09:04
ubottuFor help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages09:04
ChronotossI was just about to say, seach and see if ubuntu works on mac then do a relitive hardware check for compat probs.09:05
SmurphyDylan____: I don't have a mac-book pro, but a mac mini 2012 and one 2010. No problems running Linux on there so far.09:12
SmurphyNot now anymore :)09:12
ChronotossI never found the mac hardware appealing enough to buy, never understood it.09:13
SmurphyChronotoss: the mac Mini was neat. Before that, i built my low-power computers myself, and it was a pain. 15 Years ago, a Via C3 Cpu + 512MB Ram was quite expensive...09:19
Smurphybut suitable for a 24x7 server for home.09:19
lordievaderBlegh, VIA.09:20
ChronotossHumm... I couldn't relate that well, I'm a bit too young. I started to get into computers just as AGP was fading out. At that time I was learning about the amd v intel and home user needs. I've just recently gotten into servers and home computing on a server basis.09:21
SmurphyThat's the point. The mac-mini was a very nice alternative, and powerfull + silent at the same time.09:23
SmurphyNowadays, I have plenty of alternatives using dirreferent/other hardware. And the 2012 mac-mini was the last apple device I bought.09:24
SmurphyAll later ones, you can't replace memory or CPU. All soldered on.09:24
Dylan____Hmm ok smurpjy09:25
Dylan____Ill try 15.10 and ill get back to you09:25
Dylan____Just have to remember to install from cd or my drivers wont work and ill be stuck with noveau:/09:25
ChronotossI've always known macs to have low horse power so I never thought about using them for anything server based. The parts being held inplace was pretty much standard by the time i had any tiem with a mac. What did the mac mini come with for a CPU?09:26
Dylan____Im seen like the graphics on my mac im not sure if its the graphics overheating but there graphics look or messed up sometimes09:27
Dylan____Not sure if that cause im eunning noveau on my current linux mint 17.309:27
ChronotossHey what about putting a Konversation icon in the task bar like the IM one?09:44
SmurphyChronotoss: i7 2.6Ghz quadcore + HT, 16GB Ram + 250GB SSD. That's what I'm running at this moment.09:50
SmurphyDylan____: The Intel integrate HD4000 drivers are currently the best ones under linux. For the nvidia stuff, make sure it installs the Binary blobs. Eventually you have to download these from nvidia's site yourself.09:51
ChronotossI never DL'd a blob from nvidia .. I just used what came from the distro ... Should I go and correct myself? I do have quite the old chipset ..09:54
Dylan____I have a nvidia 320m in my macbook pro 201009:54
Dylan____Im not even sure if my mac has intel09:54
Dylan____Cause im never seen it on additonal drivers etc09:55
SmurphyI hated that 320m - I had it in my thinkpad. It died the first time within 2 years (inside warranty), the 2nd time after 4 years.09:55
SmurphyDylan____: My mac-mini has, and I think all new Mac's do too.09:55
Dylan____Hmm ok09:56
hateballChronotoss: If you want anything newer than what is in distro, use this ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa09:56
Dylan____I need to make sure if i ever want to use another distro that i need to install from bios cd to get the recommended driver09:56
Dylan____Cause i hate the noveau cant even switch drivers and i get the black screen09:57
ChronotossHumm ... I think right now hateball I want stable. Not really in the state with this pc to push for new, or "bleeding edge" If it give considerable preformance gains I'd do it. But as I'm just trying to use this system as a daily driver to learn on, You think it's needed?10:00
Dylan____Not sure haha im only a linux newbie atm haha10:01
Dylan____Its safe to put a macbook on a bed right?10:03
hateballChronotoss: It depends what you're using the system for. Some new games require 355+ for instance10:03
ChronotossI -never- put a laptop based device on a blanket, pillow, or bed.10:04
hateballFor just browsing and stuff, 352 is more than fine10:04
Chronotosshateball: I'm not doing much gaming, I'm still learning wine. As I am learning most of Linux still.10:04
hateballChronotoss: Oh, I don't use Wine, I only play native games. Pretty much all through Steam10:06
frostiehow do i disable klipper in Kubuntu 15.10 x64 so it doesnt save anything?10:06
Chronotosshateball: I would love to do that, but I'm more of an MMO player, and steam does not offer any good MMO's that I've found. Could you recomend any?10:07
frostie<Chronotoss> Tera is fun.10:07
hateballChronotoss: Nope. Maybe you can get recommendations in #steamlug10:08
ChronotossFrostie: I looked for Tera, I was told by steam I could not install it.10:08
Chronotosshateball: what do you play on steam?10:09
hateballChronotoss: let's take it to !ot :)10:09
hateball!ot10:09
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:09
Dylan____Chronotoss runescape??10:09
ChronotossHaha, good point hateball.10:10
frostieChronotoss: I think you should try PlayonLinux  http://www.playonlinux.com  its more easy than Wine to install and run Windows games under Linux10:12
Odurfrostie: In systray, right-click klipper --> settings. There you can turn of saving10:14
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frostieI run PlayonLinux for my Windows games in Linux and it works great, and i think PlayonLinux has a install script for make Tera run10:15
frostieOdur: Thanks10:17
Odurfrostie: np :)10:17
Chronotosshateball: I want to go on steamlug, but now it says i need to be ID'd, which I already am. I guess I'm not ment to game.10:25
ChronotossIt's okay, i'm sitll trying to figure out this wierd desktop glitch10:25
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ChronotossYes, like I said I'm already registered.10:26
hateballChronotoss: You don't seem to be identified10:38
ChronotossI dont use the same name in the same places >_>10:40
ChronotossI just var for this name.10:42
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miso_i have no sound on kde, could someone please help me?11:20
bogdanHi11:21
bogdanTry install ALSA11:22
miso_bogdan: alsa-base is already the newest version.11:22
bogdanIt compiles from source. Download alsa driver and put in on terminal:11:22
miso_bogdan: how?11:23
Odurmiso_: A little vague description of the problem. What have you tried? You sure it's not muted?11:23
bogdanPut this code in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437176/11:23
miso_Odur: it's a computer i'm using at work (desktop computer); and i was never able to put sound on it11:23
hateballThat's terrible advice, bogdan11:24
lordievaderbogdan: Compiling is rarely done under Ubuntu.11:24
miso_Odur: i'm sure it's not muted, and i plugged an audio earphone (which is working and not muted)11:24
hateballmiso_: Do you have discrete graphics using hmdi or anything? Sometimes the default audio channel will be wrong11:24
hateballAnd so it would try sending audio over hdmi instead of regular jack, or vice versa11:25
miso_hateball: no HDMI, the screen is plugged through VGA11:25
Odurmiso_: Whats the output of 'lspci | grep Audio'11:25
miso_Odur: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437192/11:25
hateballRight, as you can see you do have multiple devices tho11:26
OdurOk. Two devices. Check under systemsettings -> multimedia which is on top11:26
miso_Odur: in device preference there is only "Pulseaudio sound server"11:27
hateballIn the volume applet you should be able to set a "Primary channel"11:27
miso_hateball: there are many volume scales, the first one is "HDA Nvidia Digital Stereo (HDMI)"11:29
miso_the second one is "Built-in audio analog stereo"11:29
miso_and the other scales are application specific (chromium, skype, etc.)11:29
hateballThere should be a setting to pick a primary channel tho11:29
hateballI am not on 15.10 now so I can't recall what the new applet looks like exactly11:29
miso_i'm on 14.04 sorry i should have mentioned that11:30
OdurAh... OK :)11:30
hateballmiso_: Oh well then you can rightclick the volume applet -> Pick primary channel11:30
miso_hateball: ok let me try11:31
hateballshould get a new dialog where you can choose between devices11:31
miso_ok it's working :)11:31
Odurgood :)11:31
miso_i picked "Built-in [...]"11:31
miso_thanks a lot11:31
hateball:)11:31
miso_can finally listen to music while working ha11:32
OdurYou can deactivate the Nividia card from the hardware tab in multimedia settings too if you don't use it11:32
OdurI think it's the same in 14.04 (I'm on 15.10)11:32
miso_Odur: Profile -> Off? i did that, thanks11:33
Odurmiso_: Yes exactly11:33
hateballPulseaudio is nice if you do use multiple audio devices tho, as you can play different streams on different outputs11:33
miso_that's nice11:37
miso_i'm now having a problem connecting my android phone via mtp; i was tried to transfer the files and then the "mtp process died unexpectedly"; now i don't see my phone at all on dolphin or in the device manager11:42
hateballYes, kio-mtp is... not so great11:43
hateballmiso_: This works tho http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html11:44
hateballmiso_: Do you require usb transfer? Otherwise there are other solutions over wifi11:44
miso_hateball: just want to get some music from my phone11:45
miso_hateball: there is no wifi on the desktop pc11:45
hateballmiso_: Well then, that leaves you little choice11:45
hateballmiso_: If you had been on the same network you could have used KDE Connect to manage things over SSH. Or just plain SSH if so desired11:46
miso_hateball: E: Unable to locate package go-mtpfs even though i added the ppa successfully11:46
hateballhmmm, might be it's not packaged for 14.04, I didnt even check... as I tend to compile it11:47
hateballso it would seem11:48
hateballmiso_: use ppa-purge to remove that ppa11:48
hateballor well, remove it manually if you know how :)11:49
hateballmiso_: see https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs it has precompiled binaries but I don't know how well they work11:51
miso_i'll just transfer over the internet :)11:51
miso_ok i'll try11:51
hateballinvest in a $10 wifi dongle and ad-hoc computer and phone and use scp :p11:52
hateballwell, unless you have unlimited data and stuff, I guess11:53
miso_hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437336/11:54
hateballhmmm, I don't really know miso_11:55
miso_no worries11:55
hateballI stopped using MTP a long time ago. Maybe your device is newer than what I had at the time11:55
miso_email is reliable :D11:55
OdurI would recommend installing kdeconnect on both the phone and compute. Then you can transfer wireless if you are on a wifi network11:55
hateballProblem is that he isnt11:56
Odurah,11:56
* Odur must learn to read up before talking :)11:56
miso_desktop pc is connected through lan11:56
miso_ethernet11:56
Odurchange to camera USB instead of MTP on the phone might help11:57
ChronotossKDEConnect should work weather or not your computer is connected through lan or wireless. I use it with my GS5 that way.11:57
OdurChronotoss: But you have to be on the same network11:58
hateballIt works, but you still need to be om the same LAN. As I understand it the phone is going over cellular11:58
OdurChronotoss: I have the same setup as you11:58
ChronotossOhh.. sorry was checked out, I fixed that with a vpn.11:58
hateballEven so, if it is a work environment, chances are things are separated in VLANs and have ACLs between etc etc11:58
Newww_Hello, how to enable the right mouse button in system tray with gtk 3 applications, like pamac?12:00
OdurNewww_: pamac?12:02
Newww_Example :)12:02
hateballCrossposting all over the place, and pamac seems to be for Manjaro?12:02
OdurYes, I saw that too. Pamac is Manjaros muon12:03
Newww_Any GTK 3 application dont work :(12:04
Newww_right click in tray i mean12:05
OdurNewww_: Just to be clear. Which kubuntu version do you have?12:05
Newww_I have 15.10 livecd12:06
OdurAnd what GTK3 app have you tried? Name one.12:08
Newww_I do not think it matters where kde 5.5.3 has the same problem12:09
OdurOk. Where's that bug report?12:09
Newww_I dont know :)12:10
Newww_After logout right click is worked12:11
Newww_3-4 seconds12:11
OdurNewww_: But how do you know that plasma 5.5.3 has the same problem?12:12
Newww_I use antergos and manjaro12:13
OdurI'm confused... I don't think I can help12:14
* Odur goes to lunch12:14
Newww_May be I do not need to use the gtk 3 application?12:16
Newww_ok, bye, have a good day all :)12:17
OdurWell that was odd12:27
SmurphyIs there a reason why I can't use the arrow keys in kmail ? (Kubuntu 15.10 / Plasma 5.4.3)12:48
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BluesKaj_Howdy folks12:56
Guest54188Why does Amarok look so weird?12:56
Guest54188Are all applications with KDE platform 4.14 like this?12:57
soeedefine weird pls12:57
BluesKaj_i assume your question is rhetorical, meant as a comment12:57
Guest54188Yes it is lol12:57
Guest54188I wonder if there is a solution12:58
BluesKaj_there are different themes in system settings12:58
Guest54188weird means the widget style is off12:58
Guest54188i'm using oxygen according to system settings but amaroK looks like it's using plastik or something else12:59
Guest54188also the system settings crash a lot which I have no idea why12:59
BluesKaj_have you updated and upgraded lately13:00
Guest54188i just installed it today13:01
Guest54188and yes i upgraded the whole system13:01
BluesKaj_well, update and upgrade , the images are not always 0 day13:01
Guest54188i have lol13:02
Guest54188the crash thing has happened before13:02
Guest54188like way before...before kde 5 came out13:02
Guest54188none of you guys have this problem?13:02
BluesKaj_which kubuntu?13:04
Guest5418815.1013:04
BluesKaj_plasma 5.5 should be available soon , it should solve your problem \13:04
Guest54188i sure hope it does13:05
Guest54188when will it come out exactly?13:05
Odurexactly when it's done :)13:06
Guest54188lol13:06
BluesKaj_not sure, the devs are working hard to get it into the repos13:06
Guest54188also how do I see the plasma version?13:07
BluesKaj_plasmashell -v13:07
OdurIt's actually in kubuntu-landing for Xenial now, together with new kframwork. They are struggeling with apps right now13:07
Guest54188so i'm using 5.4.313:08
Odurseems right13:08
BluesKaj_Odur, yeah, i have the ci, staging and landing ppa setup on my xenial install , there are constant updates/upgrades every few hours13:09
Guest54188what will the new kframwork accomplish?13:10
BluesKaj_Guest54188, https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Binary_Packages#Kubuntu13:13
Guest54188thanks13:17
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ska_-help14:21
ska_iam new to kubuntu and search someone who wants to help me to get knowledge about the Linux system?14:24
BluesKaj_ska_, which search?14:25
ska_BluesKaj_ what do you mean with wich search?14:26
ska_okay first to make my own IRC Account?14:27
BluesKaj_the kmenu search or the file search in system settings14:28
steuhi, a little newbie question... I come from years of pure debian :)14:35
steuI've installed 15.10. Everything's fine. Then I've added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa to the list of repositories.14:36
steuIs it comparable to 'unstable' in debian?14:36
soeewell there land packages that cant go through main updates channel Ubuntu uses14:41
soeebut those packages are stable and tested by devs14:41
steuok. leaving that repo will allow upgrades to future versions of kubuntu?14:42
soeethis has nothing to do with version upgrade :)14:42
steuouch14:42
steuso when 16.04 will be released, should my box upgrade nevertheless?14:43
soeeyou should be promped with proper information i think14:43
ska_how can i search new channels here?14:43
soeehat kind of channel ?14:44
ska_irc channels14:44
steusoee: ok thanks14:44
soee!list14:44
ubottusoee: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:44
soee!channels14:44
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ska_thanks, soee14:44
ska_!list14:47
ubottuska_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:47
Phro345exit15:25
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MichaelPWith 15.10... Why is it so slow at when 1st installed and in live mode. But then after apt dist-upgrade.. It runs perfect ?17:02
soeedefine slow17:08
SmurphyIn live mode you run from CD/DVD/USB Media17:09
Smurphyand at first start, it builds up teh caches and indexes.17:10
MichaelPFrom login to the time the plasma panel shows and desktop ready to use takes a minute... But once you run apt dist-upgrade.. everything runs normal... I seens that in reviews on youtube... and right here... https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3pwtq1/just_installed_kubuntu_1510_very_slow_login/17:10
soeethere was bug in one package that caused 30 sec delay when logging17:11
soeemaybe dist-upgrade updates that buggy package17:11
MichaelPi seen that in that link.. plasma-nm and dbus17:12
mrsgphi17:18
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SkyriderAnyone happen to know a way to auto-login after sleep mode?17:31
jon___anyone here18:12
geniijon___: Better to just ask the thing you need assistance with and see if a helper knows how to assist18:14
jon___i got a problem in mozilla. when i click on bookmarks for mozilla (it's the latest version using the security updater) the menu comes up normally when the window is maximized, but the popups for bookmark menu items go offscreen at the top of the screen. when the window isn't maximized and moved down lower on the screen, the bookmarks menu goes offscreen at the top too.18:15
jon___i also installed desktop effects and when I zoom in at the top of the screen there's an extra 300 pixels maybe. it seems to coincide exactly with the popups in the mozilla bookmarks menu.18:16
jon___when i'm not zoomed in it doesn't show the extra 300 pixels at hte top of the screen.18:18
SkyriderJust great...18:34
SkyriderRebooted kubuntu, black screen..18:35
uebera||Skyrider: I never tried it, but maybe have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189779518:40
SkyriderThanks, but I have a black screen right now..18:40
SkyriderAfter the kubuntu logo.18:40
MichaelPfresh install of 15.10.. checked the box to install updates ... don't think that works... still have 96 updates after install18:40
jon___i had a probelm with starting up kubuntu early on18:41
jon___got a black screen too i think.... if i moved mouse at top-left corner i'd see a glowing thig18:41
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jon___i think i had to delete or reset my settings via hte  console18:42
Skyriderugh...18:42
SkyriderWhy do I get a black screen >_>18:42
MichaelPnever had that happen...18:42
SkyriderGreat....18:45
BluesKajMichaelP:  run sudo apt upgrade in the terminal18:45
MichaelPjon___:  intel graphics ?18:45
jon___skyrider... i'm looking for the comand to reset... in one of my notebooks18:45
Skyridersure, thanks.18:46
MichaelPBluesKaj: i am thats how i new there was still 96 updates18:46
jon___skyrider... i think my settings for kiwin or something were borked18:46
jon___so i had to reset them18:46
jon___that allowmed to get past the black screen18:46
BluesKajnot update, it's upgrade18:47
jon___i think you press f2 or something to bring up a console18:47
MichaelPBluesKaj: yeah but saying 96 updates sounds better then 96 upgrades18:47
BluesKajtthey're just upgrades to installed packages18:48
Skyriderjon___18:48
SkyriderI got it18:48
SkyriderI found the reason for it ^^.18:48
MichaelPreally upgrade is going from 15.04 to 15.10... so im updating 15.1018:49
BluesKajMichaelP:  then you'll have more than 96 ;-)18:50
MichaelPBluesKaj: on install i checked the install updates on install... got installed apt dist-upgrade said there was still 9618:51
BluesKajthe upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 is a release-upgrade to be precise about it18:51
SkyriderI chowned my home directory to nobody18:51
SkyriderWhich completely killed booting up properly.18:51
Skyridernow my samba share is broken as well : Failed to restart samba.service: Unit samba.service is masked18:52
BluesKajMichaelP:  the GUI updater is clunky , don't rely on it for accurate info18:52
BluesKajSkyrider:  then you'd better change your user name to "nobody"18:54
MichaelPBluesKaj: i don't use gui updater... I just decided to see what the update on install does.... i always use konsole18:54
Skyrider:p18:55
MichaelPthere is nobody there...lol18:57
zatreanuis there anyone here that uses okular frequently?18:57
MichaelPonly when reading a pdf file18:58
geniizatreanu: Do you have a more specific question about okular that you need an answer for?18:58
SkyriderSometimes I prefer throwing linux out the window19:01
zatreanuYes, genii. I am right now focusing on adding some shortcut features to okular, but for some reason i cant get it working.19:01
zatreanuIve modified the pageview.cpp file in the UI folder, adding functionalities to other keys.19:02
zatreanuBut even though i'm building it, after running /shell/okultar, the keys are not doing anything.19:02
geniiThat's more of a developer or programming issue than a support issue19:02
zatreanuI understand.19:03
zatreanuTherefore this is totally the wrong place to ask i suppose?19:03
geniizatreanu: You might enquire in #ubuntu-app-devel19:03
zatreanuWell then i surely will, thank you for your help.19:04
MichaelPeog ( eye of gnome ) has been my photo viewer of choice for a long time... For some reason in Kubuntu it is missing the border. I can't grab the edge to resize it19:33
soeeMichaelP: use Gwenview :)19:34
MichaelPsoee: if i liked Gwenview i would use it... eog has been my viwer of choice for a long time.. Kubuntu only distro i have that trouble with19:35
MichaelPGwenview don't have the 1 thing i like that eog has... scroll wheel is zoom and out19:40
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jon___<MichaelP> no i am using a geforce 9800 and an athlon XP 4400 cpu. I enabled zoom in the desktop effects in system settings. If I zoom near the top of the screen it will show an extra 300 or so extra pixels outside the normal desktop area.20:51
jon___no other part of the screen has extra pixels--just the top.20:52
jon___the menu popups in the bookmarks in mozilla seem to like to go into that area, so I can't scroll properly because it's offscreen20:53
MichaelPwhat is the difference between ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable and ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports21:00
Fritigernkubuntu-ppa seems to be official, no iead what the status of kubuntu-Cl is21:06
jon___oh i just found something interesting21:07
jon___xrandir -q21:07
jon___my current resolution is 1152x1125 according to the command evne though my resolution is set to 1152x86421:08
FritigernAh, cl is a chilean PPA21:08
geniiMichaelP: kubuntu-ci is the continuation of what used to be called Project Neon ( basically a rolling release of Kubuntu)21:08
geniici, not cl21:09
geniiMichaelP: The ci part means Continuous Integration21:10
MichaelPgenii: so is ci better or backports ?21:11
FritigernAnd this is how i get educated ;-)21:11
MichaelPFritigern: is #kubuntu your classroom ?21:12
geniiMichaelP: Backports is better unless you like to live dangerously :)21:12
FritigernMichaelP: All of the internet is my classroom :-)21:12
MichaelPgenii: ci you said is like rolling release right... I came from arch.... Already on fresh install... ci is upgrading... so if i don't it... Then 15 minutes of reinstalling won't hurt21:14
MichaelPFritigern: internet is a good classroom21:15
geniiMichaelP: Right, because ci always has latest-greatest, sometimes things break that in the regular repos isn't broken21:15
MichaelPSometimes regular repo are broke... like 15.10 had the broken plasma-nm and dbus causing desktop to take a minute to load panel ..then after apt-upgrade.. everything was normal21:17
MichaelPreboot and see how it is21:19
* genii makes more coffee21:21
FritigernWait, plasma-nm is broken? Is that why my reboot yesterday took forever? (I don't have ci or backports enabled)21:26
MichaelPFritigern: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3pwtq1/just_installed_kubuntu_1510_very_slow_login/   ... the network manager applet makes a call to BlueZ, the bluetooth daemon and blocks everything for a reply...BlueZ doesn't reply for whatever reason, which seems to be Kubuntu specific21:33
MichaelPafter dist-upgrade its normal21:35
FritigernI always dist-upgrade before rebooting (1st reboot in 44 days) but it took forever for my desktop and my panel to finally appear.21:40
MichaelPafter upgrading from the ppa ci.. broken packages21:45
MichaelPsynaptic... kubuntu-driver-manager .Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first21:48
MichaelPapt install kubuntu-driver-manager .. The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-driver-manager : Depends: python3-pyqt5 but it is not going to be installed Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages21:51
MichaelPpython3-pyqt5 needs qtbase-abi but not there anymore21:53
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jon___good news and bad news22:12
FritigernWell now, that was fun. Tried to upgrade my nvidia drivers from 358 to 361 and the login screen remained black. Luckily I know how to (un)install stuff from the command line22:12
jon___i fixed my problem... the bookmarks menu and popup menu in mozilla works now... it doesn't go offscreen and the scoll buttons show. the bad news is i used xrandr to fix it and for a while my monitor didn't work. I fixed by blindly typing "alt-f2" and "konsole" and then something like "xrandr -s 0" and "xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1152x864" and it worked. but i screamed my head off at it.22:14
jon___i still am not sure how to use 'safe mode' (recovery?) in kubuntu.. instead just fixed blindly22:15
jon___i hate linux22:15
jon___but it's what i'm using so...22:15
jon___and it's free22:15
em-saladaon a 16 GB USB drive that Im going to turn into a persistent pendrive, how much would be good for persistent storage?22:50
mausschubser_good evening23:10
mausschubser_I want7have to install a program to flash my tablet23:11
mausschubser_want/have...23:11
mausschubser_it's called LiveSuite and it's from Allwinner, perhaps someone knows it...23:12
mausschubser_this is how to do it: http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit#.22Failed_to_flash_firmware:_Get_Device_Stage_Failed.21.2223:13
mausschubser_sorry, this one: http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit23:13
mausschubser_when I try to run it, I always get this error message: tarting x86-64/LiveSuit.23:14
mausschubser_Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40806) with this library (version 0x40801)23:14
mausschubser_at the end there ist his German message: /home/mausschubser/sunxi-livesuite/LiveSuit.sh: Zeile 19:  3746 Abgebrochen             (Speicherabzug geschrieben) LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${TOP_DIR}/${BIN_DIR}/ ${BIN_DIR}/${APP}23:16
mausschubser_abgebrochen = escape23:16
mausschubser_it has written something in ram23:17
denza242mausschubser_: is livesuit precompiled23:26
mausschubser_denza242: hello, I don't know when something is precompiled.23:27
denza242mausschubser_: do you have to compile LiveSuit yourself, or no23:28
mausschubser_I have to run "make"23:28
mausschubser_for dkms23:28
denza242hmm23:28
mausschubser_that's it23:28
mausschubser_I had to copy a git source, first23:29
denza242mausschubser_: ok so, you followed all the instructions in this section right? http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit#Debian.2FUbuntu23:29
mausschubser_denza242: right23:30
denza242hmm23:31
mausschubser_hold on23:32
denza242I think I know how to fix this, but first, mausschubser_ can you run "sudo apt-cache show libqt4-core | grep -i version"23:33
mausschubser_sure23:33
mausschubser_Version: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.123:33
mausschubser_Version: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu623:33
denza242alright, one sec23:34
BlueProtomanI'm trying to install the "KDE Service Menu PDF" Dolphin Add-on on Kubuntu 15.10, but even though it successfully installs I don't see any new context menu items.  Is it not compatible with the latest version of Dolphin?23:34
denza242mausschubser_: figured it out, it's a version mismatch23:36
mausschubser_great23:37
denza242from the libqt4-core from the git repository, "This is the QtCore library version 4.8.1"23:37
mausschubser_I see23:37
denza242mausschubser_: it should be using the libraries in the directory which it's in23:37
mausschubser_what can we do?23:37
denza242but it seems like it's not23:37
denza242mausschubser_: I think it might be something in the LiveSuit.sh bash file. I'll change it for you23:38
mausschubser_cool, thanks!23:39
denza242mausschubser_: https://paste.kde.org/pq2jql6i8/zvps4p that _should_ work, but you should run it from a terminal23:52
mausschubser_denza242: just enter it in a terminal?23:53
denza242mausschubser_: copy the code, open a text editor (like kate), paste the code into kate, save as "livesuit2.sh" in the folder where LiveSuit.sh is, and then open a terminal, enter "cd /path/to/LiveSuit" but instead of /path/to/LiveSuit, you would enter where the LiveSuit folder is located23:55
mausschubser_ok23:55
denza242then, enter "chmod a+x ./livesuit2.sh", then enter "bash ./livesuit2.sh"23:56
denza242when entering the commands, leave out the quotation marks23:56
mausschubser_sorry, still the same error23:58
mausschubser_thanks for your effort23:58
mausschubser_denza242: I will quit for today, thank you again23:59
denza242no problem. I still have the script so I'll see what's going wrong23:59

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