[00:00] <Skyrider> krytarik
[00:00] <Skyrider> What's the difference between the first 2?
[00:01] <krytarik> Skyrider: You can read "updates" there.
[00:01] <Skyrider> Indeed I can, but there's a difference: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451773/what-is-the-difference-between-fglrx-and-fglrx-updates
[00:16] <Skyrider> Great
[00:16] <Skyrider> now I can no longer access the desktop..
[00:16] <Skyrider> It keeps launching kodi, most likely because it auto logs in.
[00:17] <genii> !info kodi
[00:17] <Skyrider> its kubuntu related :)
[00:17] <genii> I just never heard of kodi before :)
[00:18] <genii> Looks sort of like a Mythbuntu
[00:18] <Skyrider> open source media center.
[00:18] <Skyrider> But I tagged auto-login on kubuntu, while 'kodi' was selected in the list
[00:18] <Skyrider> It most likely keeps autologging into kodi now, rather than back to the desktop.
[00:19] <Skyrider> found it: Session=kodi.desktop
[00:22] <ubernoob> hi. each time i try to record vinyls in kubuntu linux installed from repository, it works for a minute or so and then i stop seeing new soundwaves on the screen and it stops there. any ideas? Dont want to have to use windows just for this purpose :(
[00:24] <Skyrider> I am glad I have chosen the fglrx drivers.
[00:54] <anykey> fgh
[05:33] <Lirus> hey, im trying to use make on wireless-regdb but it gives me an Missing parentheses in call to 'print' caused in a python file. After research i think its because my default python version is 3.5 and needed is 2.7. So how do i change the default python version?
[05:37] <Graf_Westerholt> I am missing the crypto settings in KAddressBook for person data.
[06:13] <Chronotoss> Hey guys! I'm a little new to linux, love Kubuntu! I was hoping someone could help me with a little problem, my desktop isn't saving its config on restarts, changes from folder view (what I want) back to desktop view. THough a bit odd as it only happens to my main monitor, my second one just puts the color of the background back to default. I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction to fix this; please!
[06:15] <hateball> Chronotoss: Are you on 14.04 or 15.10 ?
[06:15] <Chronotoss> 15.10, plasma 5.4.2
[06:15] <hateball> Chronotoss: Is this a fresh install, or an upgrade from a previous version?
[06:16] <Chronotoss> Fresh.
[06:17] <hateball> Hmmm, odd. I don't have a 15.10 machine handy to test with sadly.
[06:17] <hateball> Chronotoss: Have you tried logging in as a different user, to see if the problem persists?
[06:17] <Graf_Westerholt> hateball, you can use a VM to test. ;)
[06:18] <hateball> Graf_Westerholt: brb installing a hypervisor and setting up a VM with multiple monitors
[06:18] <hateball> Graf_Westerholt: Feel free to help instead
[06:19] <Chronotoss> Is hypervisor good? I've never used it.
[06:20] <Chronotoss> Could I supply any other information to help?
[06:20] <Graf_Westerholt> hateball, can you not just set two displays in a VM?
[06:20] <Graf_Westerholt> I have two displays and Kubuntu 15.10 (upgrade from 15.04) and not this problem.
[06:21] <Graf_Westerholt> Here the configuration is saved.
[06:22] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss, are you using the backports?
[06:23] <Chronotoss> Graf_westerholt: I do not know, where should I check for that?
[06:24] <Graf_Westerholt> !backports
[06:24] <Chronotoss> Okay let me check the ppa list..
[06:25] <Chronotoss> No I do not see a backports ppa. Should I add it?
[06:26] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss, I think it would be good because with an update, there might be less bugs.
[06:27] <Chronotoss> Added and updating.
[06:29] <Chronotoss> Updated, should I relog and see if that fixed it?
[06:30] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss, yes.
[06:30] <Chronotoss> Okay, brb!
[06:32] <Chronotoss_> No that did not fix it.
[06:33] <Chronotoss_> Is there a single config file that tells the desktop how to look/behave?
[06:33] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss, sorry to hear that.
[06:34] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss, but your “update” was fast. Did it install updates?
[06:34] <Chronotoss_> Graf_Westerholt: This is why I like Linux, sometimes things happens, and I like to solve problems!
[06:34] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss :D
[06:34] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss, did you do “apt-get update” and “apt-get upgrade”?
[06:35] <Chronotoss_> Graf_Westerholt: ^^ Yes. I was thinking I could write the config file the way I want it and remove write permission since I dont change my desktop.
[06:35] <hateball> Chronotoss: There are various configs in ~/.config, plasmarc being one
[06:37] <hateball> hmmm, actually it might not be named plasmarc in 5... at any rate, configs are located in kde/plasma subdirs
[06:38] <Chronotoss_> If it helps, this happened after an update that gave me higher dpi. It was last week if i'm not mistaken.
[06:39] <hateball> Also this is why I asked if you had tried a different user, so you could see if it was a config problem before updating your software stack
[06:40] <Chronotoss_> I'll create a new user and try it give me a minute I'll brb!
[06:48] <Chronotoss> Alright! Good news everyone! I just got back from my test user and problem does not exisit through relog! So the question becomes, easiest wat to reset my desktop stack and start over fresh for my current user; or better option.
[06:49] <Chronotoss> way*
[06:49] <hateball> Chronotoss: you were able to apply settings, but they do not apply across sessions?
[06:50] <Chronotoss> With the test user, I applied settings that I do with current user, relogged and settings saved and desktop pulled up as wanted.
[06:50] <hateball> I would make sure permissions for your config files are correct, so that they are owned by you
[06:51] <Chronotoss> So just check the permissions on the ~/.config folder?
[06:52] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss, each file and directory can have it’s own permissions, you have to check every file and directory.
[06:52] <hateball> Chronotoss: yeah, you could "find ./ -user root" and see if anything turns up. normally nothing in your ~/ should be owned by any other user, but if you've run things as root/sudo things may have gotten messed up
[06:53] <hateball> Chronotoss: rather find ~/.config
[06:54] <Chronotoss> SO unlike active directory I need to go through each file, no batch way to do it?
[06:55] <hateball> Of course you dont have to go through every file manually
[06:55] <hateball> That's absurd
[06:55] <Chronotoss> I would think you wouldn't have to.
[06:57] <hateball> Chronotoss: If you just want to default your install you can log out and move away the kde/plasma config dirs, but it's nicer to fix the permissions so you don't lose any configs
[06:58] <hateball> Chronotoss: So, does find show any root owned files in your ~/ ?
[06:58] <Chronotoss> ./.cache/dconf
[07:00] <hateball> Chronotoss: yeah, that's not good. And it's likely because you've run something (dolphin maybe?) using sudo
[07:01] <Chronotoss> what's the correct chmod command to make it correct if you would be so kind?
[07:02] <hateball> Chronotoss: "sudo chown username:username /path/to/file"
[07:02] <hateball> so for instance "sudo chown Chronotoss:Chronotoss ~/.cache/dconf"
[07:03] <Chronotoss> Alright, Going to make the changes and see what happens brb!
[07:03] <hateball> You might need to reload the session, not sure
[07:04] <Chronotoss> log out and back in?
[07:04] <hateball> Yes
[07:04] <Chronotoss> kay!
[07:08] <Chronotoss_> so desktop one saved correctly, and not desktop two.
[07:08] <hateball> Hmmm
[07:08] <hateball> Chronotoss: But this worked for the newly created user?
[07:09] <Chronotoss_> Yes. Could it be the NVidia X serv config?
[07:11] <hateball> Chronotoss_: Are you using the nvidia blob, or nouveau ?
[07:11] <Chronotoss_> driver marked recomended, aka blob
[07:11] <hateball> Alright
[07:11] <hateball> Hmmm, I am on intel on this machine, I don't remember where nvidia-settings stores the config...
[07:12] <hateball> I am thinking if you had run that as sudo, it may be messed up as well. Altho that should really only result in having no display on the second monitor, not affect plasmas behavior
[07:13] <Chronotoss_> That was my second thought as looking through the settings it doesn't seems to have any bearing.
[07:13] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss_, if you want to run a program as root, on KDE, you have to use kdesudo to avoid problems with permissions.
[07:14] <Chronotoss_> Noted! I'm more used to deb so I'm slowly learning K and other Ubuntu distros
[07:15] <denza242> is there any way to blacklist devices from xinput
[07:21] <Graf_Westerholt> Chronotoss_, great! :)
[07:22] <Chronotoss_> Though I ran that find command one more time and it shows that dconf is still root owned ...
[07:29] <Chronotoss_> Should I move into root and try the chown again? maybe that will stick?
[07:29] <hateball> Chronotoss_: You could try logging out, then either rm or chown that file from tty1 or as the other user you created
[07:30] <Chronotoss_> rm ... remove it? and I'm sorry I have no Idea what tty1 is.
[07:31] <hateball> oh, if you press ctrl+alt+f1 you get to a text console. ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to X/GUI
[07:31] <Chronotoss_> now i need paper ....
[07:31] <hateball> Chronotoss_: yes, it's a cached file so it should recreate itself if you move or remove it
[07:31] <Chronotoss_> okay ... I'll brb!
[07:44] <Chronotoss> Okay, switching back to X showed a mouse and nothing more, so I had to reboot. BUT it didn't solve root own or monitor one not saving. Any other ideas? Or is it time to reset Plasma?
[08:26] <Chronotoss> Alright Hateball, I nuked plasma settings, now it's saving everything except the background color. XD
[08:28] <hateball> Chronotoss: heh
[08:28] <hateball> As I said, I dont have a plasma5 machine handy so I cant help much more
[08:28] <Chronotoss> Right!? and it's still on monitor one
[08:28] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: Delete the cache - after that many things will beheave better.
[08:29] <Chronotoss> I've done that Smurphy, and nuked that when I nuked the plasma settings to be safe.
[08:32] <Chronotoss> Any one else have a finger to point me to some reading or an idea to help?
[08:38] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: Didn't follow the entire thread, sorry ;)
[08:41] <Chronotoss> Pretty easy, running 5.10, plasma isn't saving desktop settings through log ins and after going through and nuking everything, it saves except monitor ones background color. Using nvidia blob recomended.
[08:43] <Smurphy> Hmmm. Where can I see which Plasma version I'm running ?
[08:43] <Chronotoss> Kinfocenter
[08:43] <Smurphy> I know I have just upgraded to the last fixes ...
[08:44] <Smurphy> Got PLasma 5.4.3 ... :}
[08:44] <Smurphy> So no 5.10 :)
[08:44] <Chronotoss> sorry, not 5.10 ... 15.10
[08:45] <Chronotoss> plasma is 5.4.3
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:45] <Smurphy> Got that one too, and it works here. However I'm using Intel Graphics on a mac-mini 6,2.
[08:45] <Smurphy> No problems here.
[08:47] <Chronotoss> Yea I'm pretty sure I messed it up some where ... Just don't know where. I'm still learning so I"m not too sure on what else to do now ... and the forums on this subject is pretty empty.
[08:47] <Smurphy> yes. You already wipe the .config/plasma directory ?
[08:47] <Smurphy> and restarted from scratch ?
[08:47] <Chronotoss> Yup.
[08:48] <Smurphy> Hmmmm...
[08:51] <Chronotoss> Right? I've always been under the assumption that if all else fails, nuke it.
[08:51] <Smurphy> lol :)
[08:51] <Smurphy> I tend to shoot first, ask questions later :}
[08:52] <Smurphy> Cowboy: that's how they call me at work.
[08:53] <Chronotoss> I just wish there was more information around on the net so I could tinker and look more, but I'm currently hitting my head on a brick wall. I'm thinking about just taking the write permissions away from all plasma files once i have it set up and never change it.
[08:57] <Smurphy> lol :D
[08:57] <Chronotoss> ^^
[08:59] <Chronotoss> Maybe if some more people get active I'll ask around again.
[09:01] <Dylan____> Hey guys
[09:02] <Dylan____> Im a bit curious can a 2010 macbook pro 7,1 run the latest kubuntu?
[09:02] <Dylan____> Im not really sure so i came to ask you guys figuring you can help me
[09:04] <hateball> !mac
[09:05] <Chronotoss> I was just about to say, seach and see if ubuntu works on mac then do a relitive hardware check for compat probs.
[09:12] <Smurphy> Dylan____: I don't have a mac-book pro, but a mac mini 2012 and one 2010. No problems running Linux on there so far.
[09:12] <Smurphy> Not now anymore :)
[09:13] <Chronotoss> I never found the mac hardware appealing enough to buy, never understood it.
[09:19] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: the mac Mini was neat. Before that, i built my low-power computers myself, and it was a pain. 15 Years ago, a Via C3 Cpu + 512MB Ram was quite expensive...
[09:19] <Smurphy> but suitable for a 24x7 server for home.
[09:20] <lordievader> Blegh, VIA.
[09:21] <Chronotoss> Humm... I couldn't relate that well, I'm a bit too young. I started to get into computers just as AGP was fading out. At that time I was learning about the amd v intel and home user needs. I've just recently gotten into servers and home computing on a server basis.
[09:23] <Smurphy> That's the point. The mac-mini was a very nice alternative, and powerfull + silent at the same time.
[09:24] <Smurphy> Nowadays, I have plenty of alternatives using dirreferent/other hardware. And the 2012 mac-mini was the last apple device I bought.
[09:24] <Smurphy> All later ones, you can't replace memory or CPU. All soldered on.
[09:25] <Dylan____> Hmm ok smurpjy
[09:25] <Dylan____> Ill try 15.10 and ill get back to you
[09:25] <Dylan____> Just have to remember to install from cd or my drivers wont work and ill be stuck with noveau:/
[09:26] <Chronotoss> I've always known macs to have low horse power so I never thought about using them for anything server based. The parts being held inplace was pretty much standard by the time i had any tiem with a mac. What did the mac mini come with for a CPU?
[09:27] <Dylan____> Im seen like the graphics on my mac im not sure if its the graphics overheating but there graphics look or messed up sometimes
[09:27] <Dylan____> Not sure if that cause im eunning noveau on my current linux mint 17.3
[09:44] <Chronotoss> Hey what about putting a Konversation icon in the task bar like the IM one?
[09:50] <Smurphy> Chronotoss: i7 2.6Ghz quadcore + HT, 16GB Ram + 250GB SSD. That's what I'm running at this moment.
[09:51] <Smurphy> Dylan____: The Intel integrate HD4000 drivers are currently the best ones under linux. For the nvidia stuff, make sure it installs the Binary blobs. Eventually you have to download these from nvidia's site yourself.
[09:54] <Chronotoss> I never DL'd a blob from nvidia .. I just used what came from the distro ... Should I go and correct myself? I do have quite the old chipset ..
[09:54] <Dylan____> I have a nvidia 320m in my macbook pro 2010
[09:54] <Dylan____> Im not even sure if my mac has intel
[09:55] <Dylan____> Cause im never seen it on additonal drivers etc
[09:55] <Smurphy> I hated that 320m - I had it in my thinkpad. It died the first time within 2 years (inside warranty), the 2nd time after 4 years.
[09:55] <Smurphy> Dylan____: My mac-mini has, and I think all new Mac's do too.
[09:56] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[09:56] <hateball> Chronotoss: If you want anything newer than what is in distro, use this ppa https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:56] <Dylan____> I need to make sure if i ever want to use another distro that i need to install from bios cd to get the recommended driver
[09:57] <Dylan____> Cause i hate the noveau cant even switch drivers and i get the black screen
[10:00] <Chronotoss> Humm ... I think right now hateball I want stable. Not really in the state with this pc to push for new, or "bleeding edge" If it give considerable preformance gains I'd do it. But as I'm just trying to use this system as a daily driver to learn on, You think it's needed?
[10:01] <Dylan____> Not sure haha im only a linux newbie atm haha
[10:03] <Dylan____> Its safe to put a macbook on a bed right?
[10:03] <hateball> Chronotoss: It depends what you're using the system for. Some new games require 355+ for instance
[10:04] <Chronotoss> I -never- put a laptop based device on a blanket, pillow, or bed.
[10:04] <hateball> For just browsing and stuff, 352 is more than fine
[10:04] <Chronotoss> hateball: I'm not doing much gaming, I'm still learning wine. As I am learning most of Linux still.
[10:06] <hateball> Chronotoss: Oh, I don't use Wine, I only play native games. Pretty much all through Steam
[10:06] <frostie> how do i disable klipper in Kubuntu 15.10 x64 so it doesnt save anything?
[10:07] <Chronotoss> hateball: I would love to do that, but I'm more of an MMO player, and steam does not offer any good MMO's that I've found. Could you recomend any?
 Tera is fun.
[10:08] <hateball> Chronotoss: Nope. Maybe you can get recommendations in #steamlug
[10:08] <Chronotoss> Frostie: I looked for Tera, I was told by steam I could not install it.
[10:09] <Chronotoss> hateball: what do you play on steam?
[10:09] <hateball> Chronotoss: let's take it to !ot :)
[10:09] <hateball> !ot
[10:09] <Dylan____> Chronotoss runescape??
[10:10] <Chronotoss> Haha, good point hateball.
[10:12] <frostie> Chronotoss: I think you should try PlayonLinux  http://www.playonlinux.com  its more easy than Wine to install and run Windows games under Linux
[10:14] <Odur> frostie: In systray, right-click klipper --> settings. There you can turn of saving
[10:14] <Odur> off
[10:15] <frostie> I run PlayonLinux for my Windows games in Linux and it works great, and i think PlayonLinux has a install script for make Tera run
[10:17] <frostie> Odur: Thanks
[10:17] <Odur> frostie: np :)
[10:25] <Chronotoss> hateball: I want to go on steamlug, but now it says i need to be ID'd, which I already am. I guess I'm not ment to game.
[10:25] <Chronotoss> It's okay, i'm sitll trying to figure out this wierd desktop glitch
[10:25] <hateball> !register | Chronotoss
[10:26] <Chronotoss> Yes, like I said I'm already registered.
[10:38] <hateball> Chronotoss: You don't seem to be identified
[10:40] <Chronotoss> I dont use the same name in the same places >_>
[10:42] <Chronotoss> I just var for this name.
[10:51] <bogdan> Hi
[10:52] <bogdan> Hi
[10:53] <bogdan> [12:52] [Whois] Drone` в сети с 06.01.16 18:27.
[10:53] <bogdan> [12:52] [Whois] Drone` вошёл как ubot93.
[10:53] <bogdan> [12:52] [Whois] Конец информации о пользователе.
[10:53] <bogdan> [12:52] --> paulovap_ (~paulo@179.185.11.179.static.gvt.net.br) входит на этот канал.
[10:53] <bogdan> [12:52] [Whois] Drone` в сети с 06.01.16 18:27.
[10:53] <bogdan> [12:52] [Whois] Drone` вошёл как ubot93.
[10:55] <soee> !ru
[10:56] <soee> !en
[10:58] <bogdan> ubottu thanks
[10:59] <bogdan> what?bogdan #ubuntu-ru Cannot send to channel
[11:00] <bogdan> msg ubuntuhelp !nick
[11:00] <lordievader> bogdan: You probably need to be registered.
[11:01] <bogdan> Thanks
[11:01] <bogdan> How to register?
[11:01] <bogdan> !ick
[11:02] <lordievader> !register
[11:03] <bogdan> Test
[11:03] <bogdan> Hm.I put /join freenode **** and...
[11:20] <miso_> i have no sound on kde, could someone please help me?
[11:21] <bogdan> Hi
[11:22] <bogdan> Try install ALSA
[11:22] <miso_> bogdan: alsa-base is already the newest version.
[11:22] <bogdan> It compiles from source. Download alsa driver and put in on terminal:
[11:23] <miso_> bogdan: how?
[11:23] <Odur> miso_: A little vague description of the problem. What have you tried? You sure it's not muted?
[11:23] <bogdan> Put this code in terminal http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437176/
[11:23] <miso_> Odur: it's a computer i'm using at work (desktop computer); and i was never able to put sound on it
[11:24] <hateball> That's terrible advice, bogdan
[11:24] <lordievader> bogdan: Compiling is rarely done under Ubuntu.
[11:24] <miso_> Odur: i'm sure it's not muted, and i plugged an audio earphone (which is working and not muted)
[11:24] <hateball> miso_: Do you have discrete graphics using hmdi or anything? Sometimes the default audio channel will be wrong
[11:25] <hateball> And so it would try sending audio over hdmi instead of regular jack, or vice versa
[11:25] <miso_> hateball: no HDMI, the screen is plugged through VGA
[11:25] <Odur> miso_: Whats the output of 'lspci | grep Audio'
[11:25] <miso_> Odur: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437192/
[11:26] <hateball> Right, as you can see you do have multiple devices tho
[11:26] <Odur> Ok. Two devices. Check under systemsettings -> multimedia which is on top
[11:27] <miso_> Odur: in device preference there is only "Pulseaudio sound server"
[11:27] <hateball> In the volume applet you should be able to set a "Primary channel"
[11:29] <miso_> hateball: there are many volume scales, the first one is "HDA Nvidia Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
[11:29] <miso_> the second one is "Built-in audio analog stereo"
[11:29] <miso_> and the other scales are application specific (chromium, skype, etc.)
[11:29] <hateball> There should be a setting to pick a primary channel tho
[11:29] <hateball> I am not on 15.10 now so I can't recall what the new applet looks like exactly
[11:30] <miso_> i'm on 14.04 sorry i should have mentioned that
[11:30] <Odur> Ah... OK :)
[11:30] <hateball> miso_: Oh well then you can rightclick the volume applet -> Pick primary channel
[11:31] <miso_> hateball: ok let me try
[11:31] <hateball> should get a new dialog where you can choose between devices
[11:31] <miso_> ok it's working :)
[11:31] <Odur> good :)
[11:31] <miso_> i picked "Built-in [...]"
[11:31] <miso_> thanks a lot
[11:31] <hateball> :)
[11:32] <miso_> can finally listen to music while working ha
[11:32] <Odur> You can deactivate the Nividia card from the hardware tab in multimedia settings too if you don't use it
[11:32] <Odur> I think it's the same in 14.04 (I'm on 15.10)
[11:33] <miso_> Odur: Profile -> Off? i did that, thanks
[11:33] <Odur> miso_: Yes exactly
[11:33] <hateball> Pulseaudio is nice if you do use multiple audio devices tho, as you can play different streams on different outputs
[11:37] <miso_> that's nice
[11:42] <miso_> i'm now having a problem connecting my android phone via mtp; i was tried to transfer the files and then the "mtp process died unexpectedly"; now i don't see my phone at all on dolphin or in the device manager
[11:43] <hateball> Yes, kio-mtp is... not so great
[11:44] <hateball> miso_: This works tho http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-mount-android-40-ubuntu-go-mtpfs.html
[11:44] <hateball> miso_: Do you require usb transfer? Otherwise there are other solutions over wifi
[11:45] <miso_> hateball: just want to get some music from my phone
[11:45] <miso_> hateball: there is no wifi on the desktop pc
[11:45] <hateball> miso_: Well then, that leaves you little choice
[11:46] <hateball> miso_: If you had been on the same network you could have used KDE Connect to manage things over SSH. Or just plain SSH if so desired
[11:46] <miso_> hateball: E: Unable to locate package go-mtpfs even though i added the ppa successfully
[11:47] <hateball> hmmm, might be it's not packaged for 14.04, I didnt even check... as I tend to compile it
[11:48] <hateball> so it would seem
[11:48] <hateball> miso_: use ppa-purge to remove that ppa
[11:49] <hateball> or well, remove it manually if you know how :)
[11:51] <hateball> miso_: see https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs it has precompiled binaries but I don't know how well they work
[11:51] <miso_> i'll just transfer over the internet :)
[11:51] <miso_> ok i'll try
[11:52] <hateball> invest in a $10 wifi dongle and ad-hoc computer and phone and use scp :p
[11:53] <hateball> well, unless you have unlimited data and stuff, I guess
[11:54] <miso_> hateball: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437336/
[11:55] <hateball> hmmm, I don't really know miso_
[11:55] <miso_> no worries
[11:55] <hateball> I stopped using MTP a long time ago. Maybe your device is newer than what I had at the time
[11:55] <miso_> email is reliable :D
[11:55] <Odur> I would recommend installing kdeconnect on both the phone and compute. Then you can transfer wireless if you are on a wifi network
[11:56] <hateball> Problem is that he isnt
[11:56] <Odur> ah,
[11:56]  * Odur must learn to read up before talking :)
[11:56] <miso_> desktop pc is connected through lan
[11:56] <miso_> ethernet
[11:57] <Odur> change to camera USB instead of MTP on the phone might help
[11:57] <Chronotoss> KDEConnect should work weather or not your computer is connected through lan or wireless. I use it with my GS5 that way.
[11:58] <Odur> Chronotoss: But you have to be on the same network
[11:58] <hateball> It works, but you still need to be om the same LAN. As I understand it the phone is going over cellular
[11:58] <Odur> Chronotoss: I have the same setup as you
[11:58] <Chronotoss> Ohh.. sorry was checked out, I fixed that with a vpn.
[11:58] <hateball> Even so, if it is a work environment, chances are things are separated in VLANs and have ACLs between etc etc
[12:00] <Newww_> Hello, how to enable the right mouse button in system tray with gtk 3 applications, like pamac?
[12:02] <Odur> Newww_: pamac?
[12:02] <Newww_> Example :)
[12:02] <hateball> Crossposting all over the place, and pamac seems to be for Manjaro?
[12:03] <Odur> Yes, I saw that too. Pamac is Manjaros muon
[12:04] <Newww_> Any GTK 3 application dont work :(
[12:05] <Newww_> right click in tray i mean
[12:05] <Odur> Newww_: Just to be clear. Which kubuntu version do you have?
[12:06] <Newww_> I have 15.10 livecd
[12:08] <Odur> And what GTK3 app have you tried? Name one.
[12:09] <Newww_> I do not think it matters where kde 5.5.3 has the same problem
[12:09] <Odur> Ok. Where's that bug report?
[12:10] <Newww_> I dont know :)
[12:11] <Newww_> After logout right click is worked
[12:11] <Newww_> 3-4 seconds
[12:12] <Odur> Newww_: But how do you know that plasma 5.5.3 has the same problem?
[12:13] <Newww_> I use antergos and manjaro
[12:14] <Odur> I'm confused... I don't think I can help
[12:14]  * Odur goes to lunch
[12:16] <Newww_> May be I do not need to use the gtk 3 application?
[12:17] <Newww_> ok, bye, have a good day all :)
[12:27] <Odur> Well that was odd
[12:48] <Smurphy> Is there a reason why I can't use the arrow keys in kmail ? (Kubuntu 15.10 / Plasma 5.4.3)
[12:56] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[12:56] <Guest54188> Why does Amarok look so weird?
[12:57] <Guest54188> Are all applications with KDE platform 4.14 like this?
[12:57] <soee> define weird pls
[12:57] <BluesKaj_> i assume your question is rhetorical, meant as a comment
[12:57] <Guest54188> Yes it is lol
[12:58] <Guest54188> I wonder if there is a solution
[12:58] <BluesKaj_> there are different themes in system settings
[12:58] <Guest54188> weird means the widget style is off
[12:59] <Guest54188> i'm using oxygen according to system settings but amaroK looks like it's using plastik or something else
[12:59] <Guest54188> also the system settings crash a lot which I have no idea why
[13:00] <BluesKaj_> have you updated and upgraded lately
[13:01] <Guest54188> i just installed it today
[13:01] <Guest54188> and yes i upgraded the whole system
[13:01] <BluesKaj_> well, update and upgrade , the images are not always 0 day
[13:02] <Guest54188> i have lol
[13:02] <Guest54188> the crash thing has happened before
[13:02] <Guest54188> like way before...before kde 5 came out
[13:02] <Guest54188> none of you guys have this problem?
[13:04] <BluesKaj_> which kubuntu?
[13:04] <Guest54188> 15.10
[13:04] <BluesKaj_> plasma 5.5 should be available soon , it should solve your problem \
[13:05] <Guest54188> i sure hope it does
[13:05] <Guest54188> when will it come out exactly?
[13:06] <Odur> exactly when it's done :)
[13:06] <Guest54188> lol
[13:06] <BluesKaj_> not sure, the devs are working hard to get it into the repos
[13:07] <Guest54188> also how do I see the plasma version?
[13:07] <BluesKaj_> plasmashell -v
[13:07] <Odur> It's actually in kubuntu-landing for Xenial now, together with new kframwork. They are struggeling with apps right now
[13:08] <Guest54188> so i'm using 5.4.3
[13:08] <Odur> seems right
[13:09] <BluesKaj_> Odur, yeah, i have the ci, staging and landing ppa setup on my xenial install , there are constant updates/upgrades every few hours
[13:10] <Guest54188> what will the new kframwork accomplish?
[13:13] <BluesKaj_> Guest54188, https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/Binary_Packages#Kubuntu
[13:17] <Guest54188> thanks
[14:21] <ska_> -help
[14:24] <ska_> iam new to kubuntu and search someone who wants to help me to get knowledge about the Linux system?
[14:25] <BluesKaj_> ska_, which search?
[14:26] <ska_> BluesKaj_ what do you mean with wich search?
[14:27] <ska_> okay first to make my own IRC Account?
[14:28] <BluesKaj_> the kmenu search or the file search in system settings
[14:35] <steu> hi, a little newbie question... I come from years of pure debian :)
[14:36] <steu> I've installed 15.10. Everything's fine. Then I've added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa to the list of repositories.
[14:36] <steu> Is it comparable to 'unstable' in debian?
[14:41] <soee> well there land packages that cant go through main updates channel Ubuntu uses
[14:41] <soee> but those packages are stable and tested by devs
[14:42] <steu> ok. leaving that repo will allow upgrades to future versions of kubuntu?
[14:42] <soee> this has nothing to do with version upgrade :)
[14:42] <steu> ouch
[14:43] <steu> so when 16.04 will be released, should my box upgrade nevertheless?
[14:43] <soee> you should be promped with proper information i think
[14:43] <ska_> how can i search new channels here?
[14:44] <soee> hat kind of channel ?
[14:44] <ska_> irc channels
[14:44] <steu> soee: ok thanks
[14:44] <soee> !list
[14:44] <soee> !channels
[14:44] <ska_> thanks, soee
[14:47] <ska_> !list
[15:25] <Phro345> exit
[17:02] <MichaelP> With 15.10... Why is it so slow at when 1st installed and in live mode. But then after apt dist-upgrade.. It runs perfect ?
[17:08] <soee> define slow
[17:09] <Smurphy> In live mode you run from CD/DVD/USB Media
[17:10] <Smurphy> and at first start, it builds up teh caches and indexes.
[17:10] <MichaelP> From login to the time the plasma panel shows and desktop ready to use takes a minute... But once you run apt dist-upgrade.. everything runs normal... I seens that in reviews on youtube... and right here... https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3pwtq1/just_installed_kubuntu_1510_very_slow_login/
[17:11] <soee> there was bug in one package that caused 30 sec delay when logging
[17:11] <soee> maybe dist-upgrade updates that buggy package
[17:12] <MichaelP> i seen that in that link.. plasma-nm and dbus
[17:18] <mrsgp> hi
[17:31] <Skyrider> Anyone happen to know a way to auto-login after sleep mode?
[18:12] <jon___> anyone here
[18:14] <genii> jon___: Better to just ask the thing you need assistance with and see if a helper knows how to assist
[18:15] <jon___> i got a problem in mozilla. when i click on bookmarks for mozilla (it's the latest version using the security updater) the menu comes up normally when the window is maximized, but the popups for bookmark menu items go offscreen at the top of the screen. when the window isn't maximized and moved down lower on the screen, the bookmarks menu goes offscreen at the top too.
[18:16] <jon___> i also installed desktop effects and when I zoom in at the top of the screen there's an extra 300 pixels maybe. it seems to coincide exactly with the popups in the mozilla bookmarks menu.
[18:18] <jon___> when i'm not zoomed in it doesn't show the extra 300 pixels at hte top of the screen.
[18:34] <Skyrider> Just great...
[18:35] <Skyrider> Rebooted kubuntu, black screen..
[18:40] <uebera||> Skyrider: I never tried it, but maybe have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1897795
[18:40] <Skyrider> Thanks, but I have a black screen right now..
[18:40] <Skyrider> After the kubuntu logo.
[18:40] <MichaelP> fresh install of 15.10.. checked the box to install updates ... don't think that works... still have 96 updates after install
[18:41] <jon___> i had a probelm with starting up kubuntu early on
[18:41] <jon___> got a black screen too i think.... if i moved mouse at top-left corner i'd see a glowing thig
[18:42] <jon___> i think i had to delete or reset my settings via hte  console
[18:42] <Skyrider> ugh...
[18:42] <Skyrider> Why do I get a black screen >_>
[18:42] <MichaelP> never had that happen...
[18:45] <Skyrider> Great....
[18:45] <BluesKaj> MichaelP:  run sudo apt upgrade in the terminal
[18:45] <MichaelP> jon___:  intel graphics ?
[18:45] <jon___> skyrider... i'm looking for the comand to reset... in one of my notebooks
[18:46] <Skyrider> sure, thanks.
[18:46] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: i am thats how i new there was still 96 updates
[18:46] <jon___> skyrider... i think my settings for kiwin or something were borked
[18:46] <jon___> so i had to reset them
[18:46] <jon___> that allowmed to get past the black screen
[18:47] <BluesKaj> not update, it's upgrade
[18:47] <jon___> i think you press f2 or something to bring up a console
[18:47] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: yeah but saying 96 updates sounds better then 96 upgrades
[18:48] <BluesKaj> tthey're just upgrades to installed packages
[18:48] <Skyrider> jon___
[18:48] <Skyrider> I got it
[18:48] <Skyrider> I found the reason for it ^^.
[18:49] <MichaelP> really upgrade is going from 15.04 to 15.10... so im updating 15.10
[18:50] <BluesKaj> MichaelP:  then you'll have more than 96 ;-)
[18:51] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: on install i checked the install updates on install... got installed apt dist-upgrade said there was still 96
[18:51] <BluesKaj> the upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 is a release-upgrade to be precise about it
[18:51] <Skyrider> I chowned my home directory to nobody
[18:51] <Skyrider> Which completely killed booting up properly.
[18:52] <Skyrider> now my samba share is broken as well : Failed to restart samba.service: Unit samba.service is masked
[18:52] <BluesKaj> MichaelP:  the GUI updater is clunky , don't rely on it for accurate info
[18:54] <BluesKaj> Skyrider:  then you'd better change your user name to "nobody"
[18:54] <MichaelP> BluesKaj: i don't use gui updater... I just decided to see what the update on install does.... i always use konsole
[18:55] <Skyrider> :p
[18:57] <MichaelP> there is nobody there...lol
[18:57] <zatreanu> is there anyone here that uses okular frequently?
[18:58] <MichaelP> only when reading a pdf file
[18:58] <genii> zatreanu: Do you have a more specific question about okular that you need an answer for?
[19:01] <Skyrider> Sometimes I prefer throwing linux out the window
[19:01] <zatreanu> Yes, genii. I am right now focusing on adding some shortcut features to okular, but for some reason i cant get it working.
[19:02] <zatreanu> Ive modified the pageview.cpp file in the UI folder, adding functionalities to other keys.
[19:02] <zatreanu> But even though i'm building it, after running /shell/okultar, the keys are not doing anything.
[19:02] <genii> That's more of a developer or programming issue than a support issue
[19:03] <zatreanu> I understand.
[19:03] <zatreanu> Therefore this is totally the wrong place to ask i suppose?
[19:03] <genii> zatreanu: You might enquire in #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:04] <zatreanu> Well then i surely will, thank you for your help.
[19:33] <MichaelP> eog ( eye of gnome ) has been my photo viewer of choice for a long time... For some reason in Kubuntu it is missing the border. I can't grab the edge to resize it
[19:34] <soee> MichaelP: use Gwenview :)
[19:35] <MichaelP> soee: if i liked Gwenview i would use it... eog has been my viwer of choice for a long time.. Kubuntu only distro i have that trouble with
[19:40] <MichaelP> Gwenview don't have the 1 thing i like that eog has... scroll wheel is zoom and out
 no i am using a geforce 9800 and an athlon XP 4400 cpu. I enabled zoom in the desktop effects in system settings. If I zoom near the top of the screen it will show an extra 300 or so extra pixels outside the normal desktop area.
[20:52] <jon___> no other part of the screen has extra pixels--just the top.
[20:53] <jon___> the menu popups in the bookmarks in mozilla seem to like to go into that area, so I can't scroll properly because it's offscreen
[21:00] <MichaelP> what is the difference between ppa:kubuntu-ci/stable and ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[21:06] <Fritigern> kubuntu-ppa seems to be official, no iead what the status of kubuntu-Cl is
[21:07] <jon___> oh i just found something interesting
[21:07] <jon___> xrandir -q
[21:08] <jon___> my current resolution is 1152x1125 according to the command evne though my resolution is set to 1152x864
[21:08] <Fritigern> Ah, cl is a chilean PPA
[21:08] <genii> MichaelP: kubuntu-ci is the continuation of what used to be called Project Neon ( basically a rolling release of Kubuntu)
[21:09] <genii> ci, not cl
[21:10] <genii> MichaelP: The ci part means Continuous Integration
[21:11] <MichaelP> genii: so is ci better or backports ?
[21:11] <Fritigern> And this is how i get educated ;-)
[21:12] <MichaelP> Fritigern: is #kubuntu your classroom ?
[21:12] <genii> MichaelP: Backports is better unless you like to live dangerously :)
[21:12] <Fritigern> MichaelP: All of the internet is my classroom :-)
[21:14] <MichaelP> genii: ci you said is like rolling release right... I came from arch.... Already on fresh install... ci is upgrading... so if i don't it... Then 15 minutes of reinstalling won't hurt
[21:15] <MichaelP> Fritigern: internet is a good classroom
[21:15] <genii> MichaelP: Right, because ci always has latest-greatest, sometimes things break that in the regular repos isn't broken
[21:17] <MichaelP> Sometimes regular repo are broke... like 15.10 had the broken plasma-nm and dbus causing desktop to take a minute to load panel ..then after apt-upgrade.. everything was normal
[21:19] <MichaelP> reboot and see how it is
[21:21]  * genii makes more coffee
[21:26] <Fritigern> Wait, plasma-nm is broken? Is that why my reboot yesterday took forever? (I don't have ci or backports enabled)
[21:33] <MichaelP> Fritigern: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3pwtq1/just_installed_kubuntu_1510_very_slow_login/   ... the network manager applet makes a call to BlueZ, the bluetooth daemon and blocks everything for a reply...BlueZ doesn't reply for whatever reason, which seems to be Kubuntu specific
[21:35] <MichaelP> after dist-upgrade its normal
[21:40] <Fritigern> I always dist-upgrade before rebooting (1st reboot in 44 days) but it took forever for my desktop and my panel to finally appear.
[21:45] <MichaelP> after upgrading from the ppa ci.. broken packages
[21:48] <MichaelP> synaptic... kubuntu-driver-manager .Could not apply changes! Fix broken packages first
[21:51] <MichaelP> apt install kubuntu-driver-manager .. The following packages have unmet dependencies: kubuntu-driver-manager : Depends: python3-pyqt5 but it is not going to be installed Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[21:53] <MichaelP> python3-pyqt5 needs qtbase-abi but not there anymore
[22:12] <jon___> good news and bad news
[22:12] <Fritigern> Well now, that was fun. Tried to upgrade my nvidia drivers from 358 to 361 and the login screen remained black. Luckily I know how to (un)install stuff from the command line
[22:14] <jon___> i fixed my problem... the bookmarks menu and popup menu in mozilla works now... it doesn't go offscreen and the scoll buttons show. the bad news is i used xrandr to fix it and for a while my monitor didn't work. I fixed by blindly typing "alt-f2" and "konsole" and then something like "xrandr -s 0" and "xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1152x864" and it worked. but i screamed my head off at it.
[22:15] <jon___> i still am not sure how to use 'safe mode' (recovery?) in kubuntu.. instead just fixed blindly
[22:15] <jon___> i hate linux
[22:15] <jon___> but it's what i'm using so...
[22:15] <jon___> and it's free
[22:50] <em-salada> on a 16 GB USB drive that Im going to turn into a persistent pendrive, how much would be good for persistent storage?
[23:10] <mausschubser_> good evening
[23:11] <mausschubser_> I want7have to install a program to flash my tablet
[23:11] <mausschubser_> want/have...
[23:12] <mausschubser_> it's called LiveSuite and it's from Allwinner, perhaps someone knows it...
[23:13] <mausschubser_> this is how to do it: http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit#.22Failed_to_flash_firmware:_Get_Device_Stage_Failed.21.22
[23:13] <mausschubser_> sorry, this one: http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit
[23:14] <mausschubser_> when I try to run it, I always get this error message: tarting x86-64/LiveSuit.
[23:14] <mausschubser_> Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40806) with this library (version 0x40801)
[23:16] <mausschubser_> at the end there ist his German message: /home/mausschubser/sunxi-livesuite/LiveSuit.sh: Zeile 19:  3746 Abgebrochen             (Speicherabzug geschrieben) LD_LIBRARY_PATH=${TOP_DIR}/${BIN_DIR}/ ${BIN_DIR}/${APP}
[23:16] <mausschubser_> abgebrochen = escape
[23:17] <mausschubser_> it has written something in ram
[23:26] <denza242> mausschubser_: is livesuit precompiled
[23:27] <mausschubser_> denza242: hello, I don't know when something is precompiled.
[23:28] <denza242> mausschubser_: do you have to compile LiveSuit yourself, or no
[23:28] <mausschubser_> I have to run "make"
[23:28] <mausschubser_> for dkms
[23:28] <denza242> hmm
[23:28] <mausschubser_> that's it
[23:29] <mausschubser_> I had to copy a git source, first
[23:29] <denza242> mausschubser_: ok so, you followed all the instructions in this section right? http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit#Debian.2FUbuntu
[23:30] <mausschubser_> denza242: right
[23:31] <denza242> hmm
[23:32] <mausschubser_> hold on
[23:33] <denza242> I think I know how to fix this, but first, mausschubser_ can you run "sudo apt-cache show libqt4-core | grep -i version"
[23:33] <mausschubser_> sure
[23:33] <mausschubser_> Version: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6.1
[23:33] <mausschubser_> Version: 4:4.8.6+git64-g5dc8b2b+dfsg-3~ubuntu6
[23:34] <denza242> alright, one sec
[23:34] <BlueProtoman> I'm trying to install the "KDE Service Menu PDF" Dolphin Add-on on Kubuntu 15.10, but even though it successfully installs I don't see any new context menu items.  Is it not compatible with the latest version of Dolphin?
[23:36] <denza242> mausschubser_: figured it out, it's a version mismatch
[23:37] <mausschubser_> great
[23:37] <denza242> from the libqt4-core from the git repository, "This is the QtCore library version 4.8.1"
[23:37] <mausschubser_> I see
[23:37] <denza242> mausschubser_: it should be using the libraries in the directory which it's in
[23:37] <mausschubser_> what can we do?
[23:37] <denza242> but it seems like it's not
[23:38] <denza242> mausschubser_: I think it might be something in the LiveSuit.sh bash file. I'll change it for you
[23:39] <mausschubser_> cool, thanks!
[23:52] <denza242> mausschubser_: https://paste.kde.org/pq2jql6i8/zvps4p that _should_ work, but you should run it from a terminal
[23:53] <mausschubser_> denza242: just enter it in a terminal?
[23:55] <denza242> mausschubser_: copy the code, open a text editor (like kate), paste the code into kate, save as "livesuit2.sh" in the folder where LiveSuit.sh is, and then open a terminal, enter "cd /path/to/LiveSuit" but instead of /path/to/LiveSuit, you would enter where the LiveSuit folder is located
[23:55] <mausschubser_> ok
[23:56] <denza242> then, enter "chmod a+x ./livesuit2.sh", then enter "bash ./livesuit2.sh"
[23:56] <denza242> when entering the commands, leave out the quotation marks
[23:58] <mausschubser_> sorry, still the same error
[23:58] <mausschubser_> thanks for your effort
[23:59] <mausschubser_> denza242: I will quit for today, thank you again
[23:59] <denza242> no problem. I still have the script so I'll see what's going wrong