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cimbakahnHello!00:29
wxlwhat's up cimbakahn00:30
cimbakahnNot much.00:31
cimbakahnI have kernel 3.16.0-45-generic, and i want kernel 3.19.  Is there a way i can get it safely?00:32
wxlwhich lubuntu you on cimbakahn ?00:33
cimbakahnThe terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.00:34
wxl!info linux-generic trusty-backports00:34
ubottuPackage linux-generic does not exist in trusty-backports00:34
wxl!info linux-generic trusty-updates00:34
ubottu'trusty-updates' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed00:34
wxloopsie00:34
teward!info linux-generic-lts-vivid00:35
wxl!info linux-generic trusty-proposed00:35
ubottuPackage linux-generic-lts-vivid does not exist in wily00:35
ubottuPackage linux-generic does not exist in trusty-proposed00:35
wxl!info linux-generic trusty00:35
tewardcan i burn the thing00:35
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.74.80 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB00:35
* teward pulls his computer's data00:35
wxlhehehe00:35
wxlso suffice it to say there' no regular upgrade available00:35
wxlare you on amd64 or i386 cimbakahn ?00:35
cimbakahn64bit computer and os.00:36
teward!info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty00:36
ubottulinux-generic-lts-vivid (source: linux-meta-lts-vivid): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.19.0.43.28 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc)00:36
* teward coughs and spits this out her00:36
wxloh well there ya go00:36
wxlso installing linux-generic-lts-vivid should get you what you want00:36
tewardfair warning:00:36
tewardNO GUARANTEES if it works with Lubuntu flawlessly00:36
tewardit's in the repos, yes, but it's the 'backport the later version kernels to the LTS release' from Ubuntu00:37
wxloooh you can even get the wily kernel00:37
tewardand yes, i said Ubuntu, not Lubuntu, there may be minor breakages and things, as I don't test LXDE/Lubuntu under those :)00:37
wxl!info linux-generic-lts-wily trusty00:37
ubottulinux-generic-lts-wily (source: linux-meta-lts-wily): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0.23.17 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc)00:37
tewardwxl: welcome to the world of HWE stack updates00:37
wxlright right00:37
wxlMOST likely, there's no issues, though00:37
teward^ that00:38
wxlgot it cimbakahn ?00:38
cimbakahnIf i go into Software & Updates and click on UPDATES tab and then click on FOR ANY NEW VERSION, would i get it then?00:38
wxlteward: you should modify https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Upgrade to reflect this :)00:38
tewardcimbakahn: no?00:38
tewardcimbakahn: `sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid`00:38
tewardin the command line00:38
tewardor, search for linux-generic-lts-vivid in the package manager00:38
tewardIDK what Lubuntu uses for the package manager nowadays00:39
tewardwxl: ^ shed light00:39
tewardminus the backticks if you use the command I said to use in the command line, though00:39
wxlwell i think lubuntu software center is still holding on for dear life00:39
tewardwxl: BTW, I can't update that page00:39
tewardwxl: i think the Upgrade page there is for generic data00:40
cimbakahnI want 3.19 because i have had good luck with it.00:40
wxlyeah it is immutable fooey00:40
tewardwxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support00:40
tewardcimbakahn: then install the 'linux-generic-lts-vivid' package.00:40
cimbakahnIs this 3.19 ----> linux-generic-lts-vivid00:41
tewardyes00:41
tewardcimbakahn: it will install the correct kernel images00:41
tewardfor 3.19.*00:41
wxl!info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty | cimbakahn00:41
ubottucimbakahn: linux-generic-lts-vivid (source: linux-meta-lts-vivid): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.19.0.43.28 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc)00:41
tewardwhich is what you're looking for I believe00:41
tewardyep00:41
tewardcimbakahn: you'll have to reboot afterwards, of course, if you want to boot to the kernel; you can't switch while running unfortunately00:44
cimbakahnAnd is there any way to know for sure what version i have?  The terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.  I do hope i have 14.04.3 because i have had good luck with that as well.00:45
tewardcimbakahn: uname -a00:45
tewarderm00:45
tewarduname -r00:45
tewardcimbakahn: FWIW, within the Ubuntu naming scheme, 14.04.1 is indistinguishable from 14.04.3 except for the kernel00:46
tewardthe only difference is the kernel; check 'uname -r' to get your current kernel version00:46
tewardbut otherwise, 14.04 = 14.04.1 = 14.04.2 = 14.04.3 = trusty00:47
tewardfor the most part00:47
tewardit's all still Ubuntu Trusty 14.04.*00:47
cimbakahnuname -r only shows the kernel.  uname -a reads 14.04.1.  system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.00:48
tewardcimbakahn: as i said, .1, .2, .3 is irrelevant00:48
tewardif you are on Trusty, and you have all the updates installed for everything else, you're on .300:48
tewardthe ONLY difference is what kernel comes with the installer image00:49
tewardand what the default kernel is from that installation00:49
cimbakahnI have done all the updates, upgrades, and dist-upgrades i can do.00:49
tewardcimbakahn: what matters, actually, is the kernel you're on, NOT what point release your system says you're on00:49
tewardcimbakahn: then you're on 14.04.3, minus the kernel which you have the option to install yourself (by using linux-generic-lts-wily, which gets you the 4.2.x kernels)00:50
tewardthere's ***zero*** way to distinguish a system that was installed with 14.04 original image, or 14.04.3's image, EXCEPT for the kernel that's installed by default on that system, AIUI00:50
cimbakahnI think i will just do sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid    Is that all i have to install to get 3.19 ?00:52
wxland reboot to use it cimbakahn00:52
cimbakahnYes.  I know about the reboot part.  And that is it?  That is all i have to do?00:53
wxlyep00:53
cimbakahnThank you so very much!  You are all a bunch of sweethearts!00:53
wxlwe try :)00:54
cimbakahnIt worked!  uname -a reads i am on 3.19, and now my guvcview is finally working as well.  Yippee!01:06
tewardcimbakahn: enjoy!01:06
tewardcimbakahn: just... don't go off LTS releases01:07
cimbakahnThank you!  Thank you!01:07
tewardonly LTSes get this niceness of backported kernels01:07
cimbakahnOk.01:07
teward(and by LTSes I mean the Ubuntu versioning, not the Lubuntu)01:07
teward(sorry, wxl and Lubuntu devs :P)01:07
cimbakahnI see.01:07
* teward yawns01:08
tewardbut yeah, enjoy the updated kernel :)01:08
cimbakahnHAHAHAHA!01:08
cimbakahnI had a black screen on guvcview before i installed this newer kernel, now it works fine.  I guess kernel 3.16 doesn't like guvcview.  And 3.19 does.01:10
tewardcimbakahn: or, it had some update since 3.16 that broke it01:10
tewardbut eh01:10
wxlcimbakahn: must be your particular camera. worked for me.01:10
tewardwxl: all hail the updated HWE stacks01:11
teward:P01:11
teward(this is why I said stick to Ubuntu-dictated LTSes if you want the backported kernels xD)01:11
cimbakahnThis is nothing new to me because i have read in several areas where guvcview doesn't work with 3.16.01:12
cimbakahnOk.01:12
cimbakahnIt's nothing like getting 2 of your issues fixed with just 1 simple install.  I am very happy now.01:13
EsidisiHello.02:54
EsidisiI'm having a list of issues with my Lubuntu installation on my laptop, that I would like to possibly resolve.02:55
Esidisihttp://pastebin.com/nDysgvN6 Here is the list02:56
EsidisiI originally had Windows on this02:56
EsidisiIf anyone is here, notification of your presence would be helpful03:01
Esidisi:)03:01
Esidisi /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Esidisi ljubaazutqll03:02
Esidisioops03:02
Esidisio.o03:02
EsidisiNo one saw that :D03:03
ianorlinEsidisi: how are you trying to contorl brightness03:04
EsidisiThrough the Brightness option in the Menu03:04
ianorlinon the power manager ?03:04
EsidisiStart->Preferences->Brightness03:04
Esidisiianorlin: You still here?03:11
ianorlinhmm I don't have a brightness in prefrences03:12
EsidisiI do03:12
EsidisiWould you like a screenshot?03:12
ianorlinif you run xbacklight -set 50 in a terminal does it change brightness?03:13
EsidisiNothing happens03:13
ianorlinstrange03:14
Esidisiianornlin: Any idea as to why? I read something about a Intel backlight driver is it something related to that?03:21
ianorlinEsidisi: I also would in the power manager applet make sure presentation mode is not checked03:25
EsidisiI can't seem to find that03:29
EsidisiI can't seem to find the Power Manager applet, there is a Battery Monitor03:30
EsidisiBut no PM03:30
ianorlinmenu it is actually from xfce but run xfce4-power-manager-settings03:32
ianorlinand click show applet03:32
Esidisiit says it isn't installed03:33
EsidisiI installed it03:35
EsidisiAnd03:35
EsidisiIt is giving me an error message that it isn't responding03:35
Esidisihttp://pastebin.com/4tEs0GBw03:36
EsidisiError Message03:36
Esidisiianornlin: any luck?03:46
damascenehello, how do I check keyboard settings on 16.04 lubuntu?07:55
damasceneI'm on live cd and I can not type anything from keyboard07:55
damasceneI'm stuck on Lubuntu in virtualbox without keyboard input on livecd08:11
troyeshello13:12
troyesi need your help to fix my wifi i have broadcom 431813:13
troyesi got this message when i type rfkill list hp-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes13:14
JahmGuys, how do I autostart `xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults` for XTerm? I'm using OpenBox and LXDE by the way.13:56
troyeshi15:15
troyesneed help for my wifi15:15
troyesit said enp6s6    no wireless extensions.15:15
troyeshp-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no15:16
troyesi can't see if  it's on or off15:17
aedigitalnm-applet show connections ?15:24
troyessorry15:28
troyesdo you want me to use this command15:29
aedigitalnm-applet usually showed in taskbar (panel)15:29
troyesi have only wired connection15:31
troyeswhen i take off the cable i can't see wifi connection15:32
aedigitalmaybe  module for yours wifi ethernet dont has loaded15:33
aedigitalor  networkManager service is off15:33
troyescan you help me with that plz15:33
aedigitalsorry, i m not expert for this15:34
troyesah i see15:34
aedigital:\15:34
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lubuntuanybody know a thing or two about using steam on lubuntu?18:39
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wxla bit, lubotu118:40
wxlum18:40
wxlwho had the steam question? i ignore nick changes, etc. so :)18:41
jesusloversorry18:45
jesusloverhere is the error i get18:45
jesuslovermy steam folder has no root folder18:45
jesusloveronly a logs folder18:45
jesusloverinstalled from software center18:45
jesusloverinstalls fine18:45
jesusloverhttp://s21.postimg.org/lad3u8wg6/2016_01_08_183724_1600x900_scrot.jpg18:45
jesusloveri am using steam on a live instance of lubuntu on usb18:46
jesuslovercreated the usb installation with unet bootin and 0 "extra space" on the parameters if that makes a difference18:46
jesusloverbut there is free space on the usb18:46
jesusloverthis error occurs after steam attempts to update itself18:47
wxlthere's free space in the filesystem?18:49
jesusloveri'm sorry18:50
jesusloverhow would i check?18:50
wxldf18:50
jesusloverhere are my disks18:51
jesusloverhttp://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg18:51
wxland that usb is mounted at /cdrom18:52
wxlwhich of course is not /18:52
wxli'm not so much asking if there's free space on your disks18:52
wxli'm asking if there's free space on your file system18:52
wxlwhich is why i suggested df18:53
jesusloverah, i'm sorry18:53
jesusloverwhat is "df"18:53
wxlit's a command line tool18:53
wxlif you want to be really cool you can do this in irssi:18:53
jesusloveroh okay18:53
jesusloverfilesystem18:53
jesusloverhere is what it says18:54
wxl /exec -out sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && df | pastebinit18:54
jesusloverhttp://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg18:54
jesusloverlubuntu@lubuntu:~$ df18:54
jesusloverFilesystem     1K-blocks   Used Available Use% Mounted on18:54
jesusloverudev             1001300      0   1001300   0% /dev18:54
jesuslovertmpfs             202752   5216    197536   3% /run18:54
jesuslover/dev/sdb1        7897060 794464   7102596  11% /cdrom18:54
jesuslover/dev/loop0        697344 697344         0 100% /rofs18:54
jesusloverdid that send18:56
jesusloverto the channel?18:56
jesusloveri tried updating again and it says "error"18:56
jesuslover"couldn't set up the Steam Runtime.  Are you running low on disk space?  Continuing..."18:56
jesusloverand will post18:56
jesusloverdf18:57
jesusloverhttp://s14.postimg.org/6s1g0r7ls/2016_01_08_185404_1600x900_scrot.jpg18:57
jesusloveri have played games on this computer from the software center, however18:59
wxlsorry disappeared there18:59
jesusloverdid that shite go through?18:59
jesuslovernot sure18:59
wxlhey now, is that how jesus would talk? :)19:00
jesusloveri think it is okay to say "shite"19:00
jesuslovernot sure19:00
wxlyes, but what does jesus think? XD19:00
jesusloveridk19:00
wxlsorry, i'm being a bit silly but let's keep the language to an unquestionably unoffensive level, please19:00
wxlso it looks like you have space on your file system19:00
jesusloverokay19:00
jesusloverno problemo19:00
wxlthe thing i'm concerned about is that original message about an .so file missing19:01
wxli bet that's the issue19:01
jesusloveryeah not sure if this matters, but in "lubuntu" i have a steam folder19:01
wxli would recommend installing from steam directly, personally19:01
jesusloverbut in "steam" there is only a logs folder19:01
jesusloverlogs has "bootstrap_log.lxt"19:02
jesusloverokay, i am actually going to try that19:02
wxlif it still doesn't work, then there must be a deeper issue19:02
jesusloverwhy is it that you recommend that?19:02
wxlwell, among other reasons, i betcha the version is behind19:02
jesusloveris it normally better to install software from the website rather than from the software center or command line?19:02
wxl!info steam wily19:02
ubottusteam (source: steam): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:1.0.0.48-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 853 kB, installed size 2600 kB (Only available for i386)19:02
wxlversion 1.0 and valve is at 1.519:02
wxlcase in point19:03
wxlonly available from i386 is a bit strange too19:03
wxlgenerally, i recommend to install from the ubuntu repos19:03
wxlhowever, there are some things you just can't get19:03
jesusloverokay19:03
wxllike i just compiled a kernel module for exfat support19:03
jesusloversorry to trouble you if you are not busy or have the time could you recommend a good guide from installing from ubuntu rpos/19:03
jesusloverubuntu repos?*19:03
wxlbecause the exfat-fuse option available in the repos kind of stinks19:03
wxlhm well i think the wiki is best19:03
jesusloverah, awesome19:04
jesusloverwill use the wiki19:04
wxl!software | jesuslover19:04
ubottujesuslover: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents19:04
wxlpersonally i prefer using apt-get on the command line, but i'll leave that choice up to you19:04
jesusloverhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve19:04
jesusloverya?19:04
jesusloverah, ty19:04
wxlhttp://store.steampowered.com/about/19:04
jesusloveri need to read that i haven't used computers in a bit19:04
wxlseems to me that /Valve page has some useful info19:05
wxlUnable to start Steam19:06
wxl1. ia32-libs is NOT required for x86_64.19:06
wxl2. Locale was not exported. Try to run steam by: LC_ALL=C steam19:06
wxlthat 2nd one in particular19:06
wxlalso the suggestion about driver support is worthwhile to note19:06
wxli've never had to bother with that personally but maybe i just got lucky19:06
jesusloveri have i38619:06
jesusloveroh cool19:07
jesusloverso here is what i got with that command19:07
jesusloverah19:09
jesuslovermy prt scrn stopped working19:09
jesusloverbut it gives me the same error message but instantly without updating this time19:09
wxlyou can just use scrot on the command line19:10
jesuslover"Couldn't set up the Steam Runtime.  Are you running low on desk space?  Continuing..."19:10
jesusloverhttp://hastebin.com/axonesiyah.vbs19:10
wxltry steam --reset and then restart your computer19:11
wxlaw i love hastebin19:11
wxlwhich drive do you have steam on?19:12
wxlor rather which location on the file system19:12
jesusloveron19:13
jesuslover8.1 GB Drive PNY USB2.0 FD19:13
jesusloveri will not be able to reboot without wiping all data19:13
jesusloveron a live OS19:13
jesusloverbut going to go through those guides and try to hammer it out19:13
jesuslovercan you do that with any program on linux?19:14
jesusloverprogram --reset19:14
jesuslover?19:14
jesusloverthe drive is /dev/sdb19:14
jesusloverW95 FAT3219:15
jesuslovercontents FAT, mounted at /cdrom19:15
jesusloverdang19:17
jesusloverjust failed to download another packiage19:17
jesusloverpackage*19:17
jesusloverfrom software center19:17
jesusloverwas an internet proglem19:17
jesusloverproblem*19:17
jesuslovergoing to have to see what's going on19:17
jesusloveri'm always having issues when i have a LIVE OS19:17
jesusloverdid a steam reset it says "Fatal Error: Steam needs 250MB of free disk space to update."19:18
jesuslovergoing to log off and hammer it out in an hour or so rainmayyetcome@hotmail.com if you have anymore advice, thanks, the Lord be with you guys will be praying for y'all and the open source projects19:19
jesusloverhttp://pasted.co/b829e7cf19:25
jesusloverhey resolved my issue with steam and lubuntu, worked fine on a different computer with lubuntu installed on teh HD20:27
jesusloverrather than the live OS20:27
jesuslovermaking a new live OS with 5gb to preserve files across reboots20:28
jesusloverwill let you guys know how it goes20:28
jesusloverthe Lord be with you20:28
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jesusloverdoes anybody know offhand what the latest version of lubuntu is?22:40
jesusloversry, is it 15.10?22:40
jesusloveris there a quick way to check it via command line?22:41
geniicat /etc/issue22:41
jesusloverthe latest is linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic?22:43
jesusloversry22:43
genii!info linux-image-generic wily22:44
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0.23.25 (wily), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB22:44
wxljesuslover: latest released version is 15.10 but 16.04 is available in a an alpha state22:44
jesusloverah ty22:45
jesusloverso sudo apt-get update wouldn't effect linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic?22:45
genii!info linux-image-generic xenial22:45
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0.5.6 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB22:45
wxljesuslover: if you already have 4.2.0.23.25, you wouldn't get anything newer. if you want newer, i'd advise getting the alpha release.22:45
geniijesuslover: If you're on Wily ( 15.10) it should bump up to the version ubottu says22:45
jesusloverah, nice22:46
jesusloveryeah for some reason it keeps me at 4.2.0-16-generic but it is not a big deal just yet22:46
jesusloverwhat does "alpha" mean22:46
jesusloverdoes that mean stable?22:46
jesusloveruname -a shows me that 16-generic add-on after 4.2.022:46
wxljesuslover: no. it will be stable in april.22:47
geniijesuslover: apte-get upgrade ..does not upgrade kernels  .. apt-get dist-upgrade ...will upgrade kernels22:47
geniis/apte/apt22:47
jesusloverah ty22:50
jesusloveryou guys are awesome, God bless you22:51
wxlyou too, jesuslover. :)22:51

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