[00:29] Hello! [00:30] what's up cimbakahn [00:31] Not much. [00:32] I have kernel 3.16.0-45-generic, and i want kernel 3.19. Is there a way i can get it safely? [00:33] which lubuntu you on cimbakahn ? [00:34] The terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3. [00:34] !info linux-generic trusty-backports [00:34] Package linux-generic does not exist in trusty-backports [00:34] !info linux-generic trusty-updates [00:34] 'trusty-updates' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed [00:34] oopsie [00:35] !info linux-generic-lts-vivid [00:35] !info linux-generic trusty-proposed [00:35] Package linux-generic-lts-vivid does not exist in wily [00:35] Package linux-generic does not exist in trusty-proposed [00:35] !info linux-generic trusty [00:35] can i burn the thing [00:35] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.13.0.74.80 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB [00:35] * teward pulls his computer's data [00:35] hehehe [00:35] so suffice it to say there' no regular upgrade available [00:35] are you on amd64 or i386 cimbakahn ? [00:36] 64bit computer and os. [00:36] !info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty [00:36] linux-generic-lts-vivid (source: linux-meta-lts-vivid): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.19.0.43.28 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc) [00:36] * teward coughs and spits this out her [00:36] oh well there ya go [00:36] so installing linux-generic-lts-vivid should get you what you want [00:36] fair warning: [00:36] NO GUARANTEES if it works with Lubuntu flawlessly [00:37] it's in the repos, yes, but it's the 'backport the later version kernels to the LTS release' from Ubuntu [00:37] oooh you can even get the wily kernel [00:37] and yes, i said Ubuntu, not Lubuntu, there may be minor breakages and things, as I don't test LXDE/Lubuntu under those :) [00:37] !info linux-generic-lts-wily trusty [00:37] linux-generic-lts-wily (source: linux-meta-lts-wily): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0.23.17 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc) [00:37] wxl: welcome to the world of HWE stack updates [00:37] right right [00:37] MOST likely, there's no issues, though [00:38] ^ that [00:38] got it cimbakahn ? [00:38] If i go into Software & Updates and click on UPDATES tab and then click on FOR ANY NEW VERSION, would i get it then? [00:38] teward: you should modify https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Upgrade to reflect this :) [00:38] cimbakahn: no? [00:38] cimbakahn: `sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid` [00:38] in the command line [00:38] or, search for linux-generic-lts-vivid in the package manager [00:39] IDK what Lubuntu uses for the package manager nowadays [00:39] wxl: ^ shed light [00:39] minus the backticks if you use the command I said to use in the command line, though [00:39] well i think lubuntu software center is still holding on for dear life [00:39] wxl: BTW, I can't update that page [00:40] wxl: i think the Upgrade page there is for generic data [00:40] I want 3.19 because i have had good luck with it. [00:40] yeah it is immutable fooey [00:40] wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support [00:40] cimbakahn: then install the 'linux-generic-lts-vivid' package. [00:41] Is this 3.19 ----> linux-generic-lts-vivid [00:41] yes [00:41] cimbakahn: it will install the correct kernel images [00:41] for 3.19.* [00:41] !info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty | cimbakahn [00:41] cimbakahn: linux-generic-lts-vivid (source: linux-meta-lts-vivid): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 3.19.0.43.28 (trusty), package size 1 kB, installed size 27 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; powerpc) [00:41] which is what you're looking for I believe [00:41] yep [00:44] cimbakahn: you'll have to reboot afterwards, of course, if you want to boot to the kernel; you can't switch while running unfortunately [00:45] And is there any way to know for sure what version i have? The terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3. I do hope i have 14.04.3 because i have had good luck with that as well. [00:45] cimbakahn: uname -a [00:45] erm [00:45] uname -r [00:46] cimbakahn: FWIW, within the Ubuntu naming scheme, 14.04.1 is indistinguishable from 14.04.3 except for the kernel [00:46] the only difference is the kernel; check 'uname -r' to get your current kernel version [00:47] but otherwise, 14.04 = 14.04.1 = 14.04.2 = 14.04.3 = trusty [00:47] for the most part [00:47] it's all still Ubuntu Trusty 14.04.* [00:48] uname -r only shows the kernel. uname -a reads 14.04.1. system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3. [00:48] cimbakahn: as i said, .1, .2, .3 is irrelevant [00:48] if you are on Trusty, and you have all the updates installed for everything else, you're on .3 [00:49] the ONLY difference is what kernel comes with the installer image [00:49] and what the default kernel is from that installation [00:49] I have done all the updates, upgrades, and dist-upgrades i can do. [00:49] cimbakahn: what matters, actually, is the kernel you're on, NOT what point release your system says you're on [00:50] cimbakahn: then you're on 14.04.3, minus the kernel which you have the option to install yourself (by using linux-generic-lts-wily, which gets you the 4.2.x kernels) [00:50] there's ***zero*** way to distinguish a system that was installed with 14.04 original image, or 14.04.3's image, EXCEPT for the kernel that's installed by default on that system, AIUI [00:52] I think i will just do sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid Is that all i have to install to get 3.19 ? [00:52] and reboot to use it cimbakahn [00:53] Yes. I know about the reboot part. And that is it? That is all i have to do? [00:53] yep [00:53] Thank you so very much! You are all a bunch of sweethearts! [00:54] we try :) [01:06] It worked! uname -a reads i am on 3.19, and now my guvcview is finally working as well. Yippee! [01:06] cimbakahn: enjoy! [01:07] cimbakahn: just... don't go off LTS releases [01:07] Thank you! Thank you! [01:07] only LTSes get this niceness of backported kernels [01:07] Ok. [01:07] (and by LTSes I mean the Ubuntu versioning, not the Lubuntu) [01:07] (sorry, wxl and Lubuntu devs :P) [01:07] I see. [01:08] * teward yawns [01:08] but yeah, enjoy the updated kernel :) [01:08] HAHAHAHA! [01:10] I had a black screen on guvcview before i installed this newer kernel, now it works fine. I guess kernel 3.16 doesn't like guvcview. And 3.19 does. [01:10] cimbakahn: or, it had some update since 3.16 that broke it [01:10] but eh [01:10] cimbakahn: must be your particular camera. worked for me. [01:11] wxl: all hail the updated HWE stacks [01:11] :P [01:11] (this is why I said stick to Ubuntu-dictated LTSes if you want the backported kernels xD) [01:12] This is nothing new to me because i have read in several areas where guvcview doesn't work with 3.16. [01:12] Ok. [01:13] It's nothing like getting 2 of your issues fixed with just 1 simple install. I am very happy now. [02:54] Hello. [02:55] I'm having a list of issues with my Lubuntu installation on my laptop, that I would like to possibly resolve. [02:56] http://pastebin.com/nDysgvN6 Here is the list [02:56] I originally had Windows on this [03:01] If anyone is here, notification of your presence would be helpful [03:01] :) [03:02] /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Esidisi ljubaazutqll [03:02] oops [03:02] o.o [03:03] No one saw that :D [03:04] Esidisi: how are you trying to contorl brightness [03:04] Through the Brightness option in the Menu [03:04] on the power manager ? [03:04] Start->Preferences->Brightness [03:11] ianorlin: You still here? [03:12] hmm I don't have a brightness in prefrences [03:12] I do [03:12] Would you like a screenshot? [03:13] if you run xbacklight -set 50 in a terminal does it change brightness? [03:13] Nothing happens [03:14] strange [03:21] ianornlin: Any idea as to why? I read something about a Intel backlight driver is it something related to that? [03:25] Esidisi: I also would in the power manager applet make sure presentation mode is not checked [03:29] I can't seem to find that [03:30] I can't seem to find the Power Manager applet, there is a Battery Monitor [03:30] But no PM [03:32] menu it is actually from xfce but run xfce4-power-manager-settings [03:32] and click show applet [03:33] it says it isn't installed [03:35] I installed it [03:35] And [03:35] It is giving me an error message that it isn't responding [03:36] http://pastebin.com/4tEs0GBw [03:36] Error Message [03:46] ianornlin: any luck? [07:55] hello, how do I check keyboard settings on 16.04 lubuntu? [07:55] I'm on live cd and I can not type anything from keyboard [08:11] I'm stuck on Lubuntu in virtualbox without keyboard input on livecd [13:12] hello [13:13] i need your help to fix my wifi i have broadcom 4318 [13:14] i got this message when i type rfkill list hp-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes [13:56] Guys, how do I autostart `xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults` for XTerm? I'm using OpenBox and LXDE by the way. [15:15] hi [15:15] need help for my wifi [15:15] it said enp6s6 no wireless extensions. [15:16] hp-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no [15:17] i can't see if it's on or off [15:24] nm-applet show connections ? [15:28] sorry [15:29] do you want me to use this command [15:29] nm-applet usually showed in taskbar (panel) [15:31] i have only wired connection [15:32] when i take off the cable i can't see wifi connection [15:33] maybe module for yours wifi ethernet dont has loaded [15:33] or networkManager service is off [15:33] can you help me with that plz [15:34] sorry, i m not expert for this [15:34] ah i see [15:34] :\ === littlebunnyfufu is now known as SonikkuAmerica [18:39] anybody know a thing or two about using steam on lubuntu? === lubuntu is now known as Guest27074 === Guest27074 is now known as jesuslover [18:40] a bit, lubotu1 [18:40] um [18:41] who had the steam question? i ignore nick changes, etc. so :) [18:45] sorry [18:45] here is the error i get [18:45] my steam folder has no root folder [18:45] only a logs folder [18:45] installed from software center [18:45] installs fine [18:45] http://s21.postimg.org/lad3u8wg6/2016_01_08_183724_1600x900_scrot.jpg [18:46] i am using steam on a live instance of lubuntu on usb [18:46] created the usb installation with unet bootin and 0 "extra space" on the parameters if that makes a difference [18:46] but there is free space on the usb [18:47] this error occurs after steam attempts to update itself [18:49] there's free space in the filesystem? [18:50] i'm sorry [18:50] how would i check? [18:50] df [18:51] here are my disks [18:51] http://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg [18:52] and that usb is mounted at /cdrom [18:52] which of course is not / [18:52] i'm not so much asking if there's free space on your disks [18:52] i'm asking if there's free space on your file system [18:53] which is why i suggested df [18:53] ah, i'm sorry [18:53] what is "df" [18:53] it's a command line tool [18:53] if you want to be really cool you can do this in irssi: [18:53] oh okay [18:53] filesystem [18:54] here is what it says [18:54] /exec -out sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && df | pastebinit [18:54] http://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg [18:54] lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ df [18:54] Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on [18:54] udev 1001300 0 1001300 0% /dev [18:54] tmpfs 202752 5216 197536 3% /run [18:54] /dev/sdb1 7897060 794464 7102596 11% /cdrom [18:54] /dev/loop0 697344 697344 0 100% /rofs [18:56] did that send [18:56] to the channel? [18:56] i tried updating again and it says "error" [18:56] "couldn't set up the Steam Runtime. Are you running low on disk space? Continuing..." [18:56] and will post [18:57] df [18:57] http://s14.postimg.org/6s1g0r7ls/2016_01_08_185404_1600x900_scrot.jpg [18:59] i have played games on this computer from the software center, however [18:59] sorry disappeared there [18:59] did that shite go through? [18:59] not sure [19:00] hey now, is that how jesus would talk? :) [19:00] i think it is okay to say "shite" [19:00] not sure [19:00] yes, but what does jesus think? XD [19:00] idk [19:00] sorry, i'm being a bit silly but let's keep the language to an unquestionably unoffensive level, please [19:00] so it looks like you have space on your file system [19:00] okay [19:00] no problemo [19:01] the thing i'm concerned about is that original message about an .so file missing [19:01] i bet that's the issue [19:01] yeah not sure if this matters, but in "lubuntu" i have a steam folder [19:01] i would recommend installing from steam directly, personally [19:01] but in "steam" there is only a logs folder [19:02] logs has "bootstrap_log.lxt" [19:02] okay, i am actually going to try that [19:02] if it still doesn't work, then there must be a deeper issue [19:02] why is it that you recommend that? [19:02] well, among other reasons, i betcha the version is behind [19:02] is it normally better to install software from the website rather than from the software center or command line? [19:02] !info steam wily [19:02] steam (source: steam): Valve's Steam digital software delivery system. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 1:1.0.0.48-1ubuntu2 (wily), package size 853 kB, installed size 2600 kB (Only available for i386) [19:02] version 1.0 and valve is at 1.5 [19:03] case in point [19:03] only available from i386 is a bit strange too [19:03] generally, i recommend to install from the ubuntu repos [19:03] however, there are some things you just can't get [19:03] okay [19:03] like i just compiled a kernel module for exfat support [19:03] sorry to trouble you if you are not busy or have the time could you recommend a good guide from installing from ubuntu rpos/ [19:03] ubuntu repos?* [19:03] because the exfat-fuse option available in the repos kind of stinks [19:03] hm well i think the wiki is best [19:04] ah, awesome [19:04] will use the wiki [19:04] !software | jesuslover [19:04] jesuslover: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents [19:04] personally i prefer using apt-get on the command line, but i'll leave that choice up to you [19:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve [19:04] ya? [19:04] ah, ty [19:04] http://store.steampowered.com/about/ [19:04] i need to read that i haven't used computers in a bit [19:05] seems to me that /Valve page has some useful info [19:06] Unable to start Steam [19:06] 1. ia32-libs is NOT required for x86_64. [19:06] 2. Locale was not exported. Try to run steam by: LC_ALL=C steam [19:06] that 2nd one in particular [19:06] also the suggestion about driver support is worthwhile to note [19:06] i've never had to bother with that personally but maybe i just got lucky [19:06] i have i386 [19:07] oh cool [19:07] so here is what i got with that command [19:09] ah [19:09] my prt scrn stopped working [19:09] but it gives me the same error message but instantly without updating this time [19:10] you can just use scrot on the command line [19:10] "Couldn't set up the Steam Runtime. Are you running low on desk space? Continuing..." [19:10] http://hastebin.com/axonesiyah.vbs [19:11] try steam --reset and then restart your computer [19:11] aw i love hastebin [19:12] which drive do you have steam on? [19:12] or rather which location on the file system [19:13] on [19:13] 8.1 GB Drive PNY USB2.0 FD [19:13] i will not be able to reboot without wiping all data [19:13] on a live OS [19:13] but going to go through those guides and try to hammer it out [19:14] can you do that with any program on linux? [19:14] program --reset [19:14] ? [19:14] the drive is /dev/sdb [19:15] W95 FAT32 [19:15] contents FAT, mounted at /cdrom [19:17] dang [19:17] just failed to download another packiage [19:17] package* [19:17] from software center [19:17] was an internet proglem [19:17] problem* [19:17] going to have to see what's going on [19:17] i'm always having issues when i have a LIVE OS [19:18] did a steam reset it says "Fatal Error: Steam needs 250MB of free disk space to update." [19:19] going to log off and hammer it out in an hour or so rainmayyetcome@hotmail.com if you have anymore advice, thanks, the Lord be with you guys will be praying for y'all and the open source projects [19:25] http://pasted.co/b829e7cf [20:27] hey resolved my issue with steam and lubuntu, worked fine on a different computer with lubuntu installed on teh HD [20:27] rather than the live OS [20:28] making a new live OS with 5gb to preserve files across reboots [20:28] will let you guys know how it goes [20:28] the Lord be with you === tachibana is now known as conundrumd [22:40] does anybody know offhand what the latest version of lubuntu is? [22:40] sry, is it 15.10? [22:41] is there a quick way to check it via command line? [22:41] cat /etc/issue [22:43] the latest is linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic? [22:43] sry [22:44] !info linux-image-generic wily [22:44] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.2.0.23.25 (wily), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB [22:44] jesuslover: latest released version is 15.10 but 16.04 is available in a an alpha state [22:45] ah ty [22:45] so sudo apt-get update wouldn't effect linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic? [22:45] !info linux-image-generic xenial [22:45] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.3.0.5.6 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 11 kB [22:45] jesuslover: if you already have 4.2.0.23.25, you wouldn't get anything newer. if you want newer, i'd advise getting the alpha release. [22:45] jesuslover: If you're on Wily ( 15.10) it should bump up to the version ubottu says [22:46] ah, nice [22:46] yeah for some reason it keeps me at 4.2.0-16-generic but it is not a big deal just yet [22:46] what does "alpha" mean [22:46] does that mean stable? [22:46] uname -a shows me that 16-generic add-on after 4.2.0 [22:47] jesuslover: no. it will be stable in april. [22:47] jesuslover: apte-get upgrade ..does not upgrade kernels .. apt-get dist-upgrade ...will upgrade kernels [22:47] s/apte/apt [22:50] ah ty [22:51] you guys are awesome, God bless you [22:51] you too, jesuslover. :)