[00:29] <cimbakahn> Hello!
[00:30] <wxl> what's up cimbakahn
[00:31] <cimbakahn> Not much.
[00:32] <cimbakahn> I have kernel 3.16.0-45-generic, and i want kernel 3.19.  Is there a way i can get it safely?
[00:33] <wxl> which lubuntu you on cimbakahn ?
[00:34] <cimbakahn> The terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.
[00:34] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty-backports
[00:34] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty-updates
[00:34] <wxl> oopsie
[00:35] <teward> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid
[00:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty-proposed
[00:35] <wxl> !info linux-generic trusty
[00:35] <teward> can i burn the thing
[00:35]  * teward pulls his computer's data
[00:35] <wxl> hehehe
[00:35] <wxl> so suffice it to say there' no regular upgrade available
[00:35] <wxl> are you on amd64 or i386 cimbakahn ?
[00:36] <cimbakahn> 64bit computer and os.
[00:36] <teward> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty
[00:36]  * teward coughs and spits this out her
[00:36] <wxl> oh well there ya go
[00:36] <wxl> so installing linux-generic-lts-vivid should get you what you want
[00:36] <teward> fair warning:
[00:36] <teward> NO GUARANTEES if it works with Lubuntu flawlessly
[00:37] <teward> it's in the repos, yes, but it's the 'backport the later version kernels to the LTS release' from Ubuntu
[00:37] <wxl> oooh you can even get the wily kernel
[00:37] <teward> and yes, i said Ubuntu, not Lubuntu, there may be minor breakages and things, as I don't test LXDE/Lubuntu under those :)
[00:37] <wxl> !info linux-generic-lts-wily trusty
[00:37] <teward> wxl: welcome to the world of HWE stack updates
[00:37] <wxl> right right
[00:37] <wxl> MOST likely, there's no issues, though
[00:38] <teward> ^ that
[00:38] <wxl> got it cimbakahn ?
[00:38] <cimbakahn> If i go into Software & Updates and click on UPDATES tab and then click on FOR ANY NEW VERSION, would i get it then?
[00:38] <wxl> teward: you should modify https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Upgrade to reflect this :)
[00:38] <teward> cimbakahn: no?
[00:38] <teward> cimbakahn: `sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid`
[00:38] <teward> in the command line
[00:38] <teward> or, search for linux-generic-lts-vivid in the package manager
[00:39] <teward> IDK what Lubuntu uses for the package manager nowadays
[00:39] <teward> wxl: ^ shed light
[00:39] <teward> minus the backticks if you use the command I said to use in the command line, though
[00:39] <wxl> well i think lubuntu software center is still holding on for dear life
[00:39] <teward> wxl: BTW, I can't update that page
[00:40] <teward> wxl: i think the Upgrade page there is for generic data
[00:40] <cimbakahn> I want 3.19 because i have had good luck with it.
[00:40] <wxl> yeah it is immutable fooey
[00:40] <teward> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Kernel.2BAC8-Support.A14.04.x_Ubuntu_Kernel_Support
[00:40] <teward> cimbakahn: then install the 'linux-generic-lts-vivid' package.
[00:41] <cimbakahn> Is this 3.19 ----> linux-generic-lts-vivid
[00:41] <teward> yes
[00:41] <teward> cimbakahn: it will install the correct kernel images
[00:41] <teward> for 3.19.*
[00:41] <wxl> !info linux-generic-lts-vivid trusty | cimbakahn
[00:41] <teward> which is what you're looking for I believe
[00:41] <teward> yep
[00:44] <teward> cimbakahn: you'll have to reboot afterwards, of course, if you want to boot to the kernel; you can't switch while running unfortunately
[00:45] <cimbakahn> And is there any way to know for sure what version i have?  The terminal reads 14.04.1, but the system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.  I do hope i have 14.04.3 because i have had good luck with that as well.
[00:45] <teward> cimbakahn: uname -a
[00:45] <teward> erm
[00:45] <teward> uname -r
[00:46] <teward> cimbakahn: FWIW, within the Ubuntu naming scheme, 14.04.1 is indistinguishable from 14.04.3 except for the kernel
[00:46] <teward> the only difference is the kernel; check 'uname -r' to get your current kernel version
[00:47] <teward> but otherwise, 14.04 = 14.04.1 = 14.04.2 = 14.04.3 = trusty
[00:47] <teward> for the most part
[00:47] <teward> it's all still Ubuntu Trusty 14.04.*
[00:48] <cimbakahn> uname -r only shows the kernel.  uname -a reads 14.04.1.  system profiler and benchmark reads 14.04.3.
[00:48] <teward> cimbakahn: as i said, .1, .2, .3 is irrelevant
[00:48] <teward> if you are on Trusty, and you have all the updates installed for everything else, you're on .3
[00:49] <teward> the ONLY difference is what kernel comes with the installer image
[00:49] <teward> and what the default kernel is from that installation
[00:49] <cimbakahn> I have done all the updates, upgrades, and dist-upgrades i can do.
[00:49] <teward> cimbakahn: what matters, actually, is the kernel you're on, NOT what point release your system says you're on
[00:50] <teward> cimbakahn: then you're on 14.04.3, minus the kernel which you have the option to install yourself (by using linux-generic-lts-wily, which gets you the 4.2.x kernels)
[00:50] <teward> there's ***zero*** way to distinguish a system that was installed with 14.04 original image, or 14.04.3's image, EXCEPT for the kernel that's installed by default on that system, AIUI
[00:52] <cimbakahn> I think i will just do sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid    Is that all i have to install to get 3.19 ?
[00:52] <wxl> and reboot to use it cimbakahn
[00:53] <cimbakahn> Yes.  I know about the reboot part.  And that is it?  That is all i have to do?
[00:53] <wxl> yep
[00:53] <cimbakahn> Thank you so very much!  You are all a bunch of sweethearts!
[00:54] <wxl> we try :)
[01:06] <cimbakahn> It worked!  uname -a reads i am on 3.19, and now my guvcview is finally working as well.  Yippee!
[01:06] <teward> cimbakahn: enjoy!
[01:07] <teward> cimbakahn: just... don't go off LTS releases
[01:07] <cimbakahn> Thank you!  Thank you!
[01:07] <teward> only LTSes get this niceness of backported kernels
[01:07] <cimbakahn> Ok.
[01:07] <teward> (and by LTSes I mean the Ubuntu versioning, not the Lubuntu)
[01:07] <teward> (sorry, wxl and Lubuntu devs :P)
[01:07] <cimbakahn> I see.
[01:08]  * teward yawns
[01:08] <teward> but yeah, enjoy the updated kernel :)
[01:08] <cimbakahn> HAHAHAHA!
[01:10] <cimbakahn> I had a black screen on guvcview before i installed this newer kernel, now it works fine.  I guess kernel 3.16 doesn't like guvcview.  And 3.19 does.
[01:10] <teward> cimbakahn: or, it had some update since 3.16 that broke it
[01:10] <teward> but eh
[01:10] <wxl> cimbakahn: must be your particular camera. worked for me.
[01:11] <teward> wxl: all hail the updated HWE stacks
[01:11] <teward> :P
[01:11] <teward> (this is why I said stick to Ubuntu-dictated LTSes if you want the backported kernels xD)
[01:12] <cimbakahn> This is nothing new to me because i have read in several areas where guvcview doesn't work with 3.16.
[01:12] <cimbakahn> Ok.
[01:13] <cimbakahn> It's nothing like getting 2 of your issues fixed with just 1 simple install.  I am very happy now.
[02:54] <Esidisi> Hello.
[02:55] <Esidisi> I'm having a list of issues with my Lubuntu installation on my laptop, that I would like to possibly resolve.
[02:56] <Esidisi> http://pastebin.com/nDysgvN6 Here is the list
[02:56] <Esidisi> I originally had Windows on this
[03:01] <Esidisi> If anyone is here, notification of your presence would be helpful
[03:01] <Esidisi> :)
[03:02] <Esidisi>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER Esidisi ljubaazutqll
[03:02] <Esidisi> oops
[03:02] <Esidisi> o.o
[03:03] <Esidisi> No one saw that :D
[03:04] <ianorlin> Esidisi: how are you trying to contorl brightness
[03:04] <Esidisi> Through the Brightness option in the Menu
[03:04] <ianorlin> on the power manager ?
[03:04] <Esidisi> Start->Preferences->Brightness
[03:11] <Esidisi> ianorlin: You still here?
[03:12] <ianorlin> hmm I don't have a brightness in prefrences
[03:12] <Esidisi> I do
[03:12] <Esidisi> Would you like a screenshot?
[03:13] <ianorlin> if you run xbacklight -set 50 in a terminal does it change brightness?
[03:13] <Esidisi> Nothing happens
[03:14] <ianorlin> strange
[03:21] <Esidisi> ianornlin: Any idea as to why? I read something about a Intel backlight driver is it something related to that?
[03:25] <ianorlin> Esidisi: I also would in the power manager applet make sure presentation mode is not checked
[03:29] <Esidisi> I can't seem to find that
[03:30] <Esidisi> I can't seem to find the Power Manager applet, there is a Battery Monitor
[03:30] <Esidisi> But no PM
[03:32] <ianorlin> menu it is actually from xfce but run xfce4-power-manager-settings
[03:32] <ianorlin> and click show applet
[03:33] <Esidisi> it says it isn't installed
[03:35] <Esidisi> I installed it
[03:35] <Esidisi> And
[03:35] <Esidisi> It is giving me an error message that it isn't responding
[03:36] <Esidisi> http://pastebin.com/4tEs0GBw
[03:36] <Esidisi> Error Message
[03:46] <Esidisi> ianornlin: any luck?
[07:55] <damascene> hello, how do I check keyboard settings on 16.04 lubuntu?
[07:55] <damascene> I'm on live cd and I can not type anything from keyboard
[08:11] <damascene> I'm stuck on Lubuntu in virtualbox without keyboard input on livecd
[13:12] <troyes> hello
[13:13] <troyes> i need your help to fix my wifi i have broadcom 4318
[13:14] <troyes> i got this message when i type rfkill list hp-wifi: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: yes
[13:56] <Jahm> Guys, how do I autostart `xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults` for XTerm? I'm using OpenBox and LXDE by the way.
[15:15] <troyes> hi
[15:15] <troyes> need help for my wifi
[15:15] <troyes> it said enp6s6    no wireless extensions.
[15:16] <troyes> hp-wifi: Wireless LAN 	Soft blocked: no 	Hard blocked: no
[15:17] <troyes> i can't see if  it's on or off
[15:24] <aedigital> nm-applet show connections ?
[15:28] <troyes> sorry
[15:29] <troyes> do you want me to use this command
[15:29] <aedigital> nm-applet usually showed in taskbar (panel)
[15:31] <troyes> i have only wired connection
[15:32] <troyes> when i take off the cable i can't see wifi connection
[15:33] <aedigital> maybe  module for yours wifi ethernet dont has loaded
[15:33] <aedigital> or  networkManager service is off
[15:33] <troyes> can you help me with that plz
[15:34] <aedigital> sorry, i m not expert for this
[15:34] <troyes> ah i see
[15:34] <aedigital> :\
[18:39] <lubuntu> anybody know a thing or two about using steam on lubuntu?
[18:40] <wxl> a bit, lubotu1
[18:40] <wxl> um
[18:41] <wxl> who had the steam question? i ignore nick changes, etc. so :)
[18:45] <jesuslover> sorry
[18:45] <jesuslover> here is the error i get
[18:45] <jesuslover> my steam folder has no root folder
[18:45] <jesuslover> only a logs folder
[18:45] <jesuslover> installed from software center
[18:45] <jesuslover> installs fine
[18:45] <jesuslover> http://s21.postimg.org/lad3u8wg6/2016_01_08_183724_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:46] <jesuslover> i am using steam on a live instance of lubuntu on usb
[18:46] <jesuslover> created the usb installation with unet bootin and 0 "extra space" on the parameters if that makes a difference
[18:46] <jesuslover> but there is free space on the usb
[18:47] <jesuslover> this error occurs after steam attempts to update itself
[18:49] <wxl> there's free space in the filesystem?
[18:50] <jesuslover> i'm sorry
[18:50] <jesuslover> how would i check?
[18:50] <wxl> df
[18:51] <jesuslover> here are my disks
[18:51] <jesuslover> http://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:52] <wxl> and that usb is mounted at /cdrom
[18:52] <wxl> which of course is not /
[18:52] <wxl> i'm not so much asking if there's free space on your disks
[18:52] <wxl> i'm asking if there's free space on your file system
[18:53] <wxl> which is why i suggested df
[18:53] <jesuslover> ah, i'm sorry
[18:53] <jesuslover> what is "df"
[18:53] <wxl> it's a command line tool
[18:53] <wxl> if you want to be really cool you can do this in irssi:
[18:53] <jesuslover> oh okay
[18:53] <jesuslover> filesystem
[18:54] <jesuslover> here is what it says
[18:54] <wxl>  /exec -out sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && df | pastebinit
[18:54] <jesuslover> http://s1.postimg.org/f2njzeese/2016_01_08_185041_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:54] <jesuslover> lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ df
[18:54] <jesuslover> Filesystem     1K-blocks   Used Available Use% Mounted on
[18:54] <jesuslover> udev             1001300      0   1001300   0% /dev
[18:54] <jesuslover> tmpfs             202752   5216    197536   3% /run
[18:54] <jesuslover> /dev/sdb1        7897060 794464   7102596  11% /cdrom
[18:54] <jesuslover> /dev/loop0        697344 697344         0 100% /rofs
[18:56] <jesuslover> did that send
[18:56] <jesuslover> to the channel?
[18:56] <jesuslover> i tried updating again and it says "error"
[18:56] <jesuslover> "couldn't set up the Steam Runtime.  Are you running low on disk space?  Continuing..."
[18:56] <jesuslover> and will post
[18:57] <jesuslover> df
[18:57] <jesuslover> http://s14.postimg.org/6s1g0r7ls/2016_01_08_185404_1600x900_scrot.jpg
[18:59] <jesuslover> i have played games on this computer from the software center, however
[18:59] <wxl> sorry disappeared there
[18:59] <jesuslover> did that shite go through?
[18:59] <jesuslover> not sure
[19:00] <wxl> hey now, is that how jesus would talk? :)
[19:00] <jesuslover> i think it is okay to say "shite"
[19:00] <jesuslover> not sure
[19:00] <wxl> yes, but what does jesus think? XD
[19:00] <jesuslover> idk
[19:00] <wxl> sorry, i'm being a bit silly but let's keep the language to an unquestionably unoffensive level, please
[19:00] <wxl> so it looks like you have space on your file system
[19:00] <jesuslover> okay
[19:00] <jesuslover> no problemo
[19:01] <wxl> the thing i'm concerned about is that original message about an .so file missing
[19:01] <wxl> i bet that's the issue
[19:01] <jesuslover> yeah not sure if this matters, but in "lubuntu" i have a steam folder
[19:01] <wxl> i would recommend installing from steam directly, personally
[19:01] <jesuslover> but in "steam" there is only a logs folder
[19:02] <jesuslover> logs has "bootstrap_log.lxt"
[19:02] <jesuslover> okay, i am actually going to try that
[19:02] <wxl> if it still doesn't work, then there must be a deeper issue
[19:02] <jesuslover> why is it that you recommend that?
[19:02] <wxl> well, among other reasons, i betcha the version is behind
[19:02] <jesuslover> is it normally better to install software from the website rather than from the software center or command line?
[19:02] <wxl> !info steam wily
[19:02] <wxl> version 1.0 and valve is at 1.5
[19:03] <wxl> case in point
[19:03] <wxl> only available from i386 is a bit strange too
[19:03] <wxl> generally, i recommend to install from the ubuntu repos
[19:03] <wxl> however, there are some things you just can't get
[19:03] <jesuslover> okay
[19:03] <wxl> like i just compiled a kernel module for exfat support
[19:03] <jesuslover> sorry to trouble you if you are not busy or have the time could you recommend a good guide from installing from ubuntu rpos/
[19:03] <jesuslover> ubuntu repos?*
[19:03] <wxl> because the exfat-fuse option available in the repos kind of stinks
[19:03] <wxl> hm well i think the wiki is best
[19:04] <jesuslover> ah, awesome
[19:04] <jesuslover> will use the wiki
[19:04] <wxl> !software | jesuslover
[19:04] <wxl> personally i prefer using apt-get on the command line, but i'll leave that choice up to you
[19:04] <jesuslover> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[19:04] <jesuslover> ya?
[19:04] <jesuslover> ah, ty
[19:04] <wxl> http://store.steampowered.com/about/
[19:04] <jesuslover> i need to read that i haven't used computers in a bit
[19:05] <wxl> seems to me that /Valve page has some useful info
[19:06] <wxl> Unable to start Steam
[19:06] <wxl> 1. ia32-libs is NOT required for x86_64.
[19:06] <wxl> 2. Locale was not exported. Try to run steam by: LC_ALL=C steam
[19:06] <wxl> that 2nd one in particular
[19:06] <wxl> also the suggestion about driver support is worthwhile to note
[19:06] <wxl> i've never had to bother with that personally but maybe i just got lucky
[19:06] <jesuslover> i have i386
[19:07] <jesuslover> oh cool
[19:07] <jesuslover> so here is what i got with that command
[19:09] <jesuslover> ah
[19:09] <jesuslover> my prt scrn stopped working
[19:09] <jesuslover> but it gives me the same error message but instantly without updating this time
[19:10] <wxl> you can just use scrot on the command line
[19:10] <jesuslover> "Couldn't set up the Steam Runtime.  Are you running low on desk space?  Continuing..."
[19:10] <jesuslover> http://hastebin.com/axonesiyah.vbs
[19:11] <wxl> try steam --reset and then restart your computer
[19:11] <wxl> aw i love hastebin
[19:12] <wxl> which drive do you have steam on?
[19:12] <wxl> or rather which location on the file system
[19:13] <jesuslover> on
[19:13] <jesuslover> 8.1 GB Drive PNY USB2.0 FD
[19:13] <jesuslover> i will not be able to reboot without wiping all data
[19:13] <jesuslover> on a live OS
[19:13] <jesuslover> but going to go through those guides and try to hammer it out
[19:14] <jesuslover> can you do that with any program on linux?
[19:14] <jesuslover> program --reset
[19:14] <jesuslover> ?
[19:14] <jesuslover> the drive is /dev/sdb
[19:15] <jesuslover> W95 FAT32
[19:15] <jesuslover> contents FAT, mounted at /cdrom
[19:17] <jesuslover> dang
[19:17] <jesuslover> just failed to download another packiage
[19:17] <jesuslover> package*
[19:17] <jesuslover> from software center
[19:17] <jesuslover> was an internet proglem
[19:17] <jesuslover> problem*
[19:17] <jesuslover> going to have to see what's going on
[19:17] <jesuslover> i'm always having issues when i have a LIVE OS
[19:18] <jesuslover> did a steam reset it says "Fatal Error: Steam needs 250MB of free disk space to update."
[19:19] <jesuslover> going to log off and hammer it out in an hour or so rainmayyetcome@hotmail.com if you have anymore advice, thanks, the Lord be with you guys will be praying for y'all and the open source projects
[19:25] <jesuslover> http://pasted.co/b829e7cf
[20:27] <jesuslover> hey resolved my issue with steam and lubuntu, worked fine on a different computer with lubuntu installed on teh HD
[20:27] <jesuslover> rather than the live OS
[20:28] <jesuslover> making a new live OS with 5gb to preserve files across reboots
[20:28] <jesuslover> will let you guys know how it goes
[20:28] <jesuslover> the Lord be with you
[22:40] <jesuslover> does anybody know offhand what the latest version of lubuntu is?
[22:40] <jesuslover> sry, is it 15.10?
[22:41] <jesuslover> is there a quick way to check it via command line?
[22:41] <genii> cat /etc/issue
[22:43] <jesuslover> the latest is linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic?
[22:43] <jesuslover> sry
[22:44] <genii> !info linux-image-generic wily
[22:44] <wxl> jesuslover: latest released version is 15.10 but 16.04 is available in a an alpha state
[22:45] <jesuslover> ah ty
[22:45] <jesuslover> so sudo apt-get update wouldn't effect linux lubuntu 4.2.0-16-generic?
[22:45] <genii> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[22:45] <wxl> jesuslover: if you already have 4.2.0.23.25, you wouldn't get anything newer. if you want newer, i'd advise getting the alpha release.
[22:45] <genii> jesuslover: If you're on Wily ( 15.10) it should bump up to the version ubottu says
[22:46] <jesuslover> ah, nice
[22:46] <jesuslover> yeah for some reason it keeps me at 4.2.0-16-generic but it is not a big deal just yet
[22:46] <jesuslover> what does "alpha" mean
[22:46] <jesuslover> does that mean stable?
[22:46] <jesuslover> uname -a shows me that 16-generic add-on after 4.2.0
[22:47] <wxl> jesuslover: no. it will be stable in april.
[22:47] <genii> jesuslover: apte-get upgrade ..does not upgrade kernels  .. apt-get dist-upgrade ...will upgrade kernels
[22:47] <genii> s/apte/apt
[22:50] <jesuslover> ah ty
[22:51] <jesuslover> you guys are awesome, God bless you
[22:51] <wxl> you too, jesuslover. :)