[05:00] <mapps> hi
[08:10] <MooDoo> Morning all
[08:11] <mapps> morning
[08:11] <mapps> just watched bridge of spies..was good
[08:18] <MooDoo> not seen it yet
[09:18] <czajkowski> aloha
[09:23] <davmor2> morning all
[09:24] <czajkowski> davmor2: well hello sunshine!
[09:24] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy English Toffee Day! 😃  🍬
[09:26] <MooDoo> morning davmor2 czajkowski JamesTait
[09:26] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tnqnXJl9qE
[10:19] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:24] <MooDoo> howdy
[10:27] <brobostigon> hi MooDoo
[10:38] <awilkins> Wily : the keyboard shortcut in Nautilus that reveals the current path has gone, or changed
[10:38] <awilkins> ie. ctrl-L - you could then copy the path and paste it elsewhere
[12:40] <davmor2> awilkins: lower case l
[12:41] <awilkins> davmor2, Doesn't work either way
[12:41] <awilkins> It's listed in the menu
[12:42] <awilkins> But the menu action doesn't work either
[12:42] <davmor2> awilkins: works for me on Xenial and did on wily for me too so not sure what is going on there unless there is an issue that has been introduced
[12:44] <awilkins> It's happened before as far as I can Google, so it may be a regression
[13:01] <foobarry> how can i check if x is between 3 and 6 in bash without 2 checks?
[13:01] <foobarry> i want: if [ 3 < $x < 6 ]; then echo yes; fi
[13:02] <foobarry> rather than 3 < $x && $x < 6
[13:04] <foobarry> meh, not sure its possible
[13:48] <awilkins> Xenial is really going python3 only?
[13:48]  * awilkins presumes bzr has been ported
[13:49] <awilkins> And how does supporting Snappy packages reconcile with apt?
[14:10] <popey> pretty sure bzr doesn't depend on python2
[14:10] <awilkins> It still had some 2-isms last time I did anything to it, but that was aaaages ago
[14:19] <foobarry> my 3 line script to rip tv shows is now over 100 lines :(
[14:21] <zmoylan-pi> rewrite in perl to have it all on one line :-)
[14:22] <foobarry> and set all my variables to one letter
[14:22] <awilkins> Arrgh, Chromium won't download to SMB shares. Annoying.
[14:22] <zmoylan-pi> it'd be just like my first programs on zx spectrum, i'd scroll for days... :-)
[14:23] <davmor2> awilkins: look under /run/user/1000/gvfs
[14:26] <awilkins> davmor2, Still fails
[14:26] <davmor2> awilkins: :(
[14:27] <awilkins> My Firefox instance is tied up
[14:27] <awilkins> Oh, ok, it's done
[14:27] <awilkins> Running a scrape on a website that doesn't implement an API for the data
[14:27] <awilkins> Hoorah for shell scripts and GreaseMonkey
[15:20] <awilkins> Problem with Ubuntu's use of ecryptfs for home folder encryption : the filename encryption means that it can't store filenames longer than 140 chars.
[15:20] <awilkins> Some stupid doofus has used filenames longer than 140 chars for some business documents. Now Syncthing is having a frenge.
[15:21] <zmoylan-pi> find doofus and run script to rename all his files 8.3 to slow them down a smidge
[15:21] <awilkins> Not a doofus I can control, sadly
[15:21] <awilkins> Salesdoofus
[15:24] <MooDoo> :)
[15:39] <diddledan> lol @ typo on ubuntu-devel-discuss "Stud support for sslversion TLSv1.2" <-- I'm a stud, can I support it?
[15:40] <diddledan> oh maybe it's not a typo
[15:40] <diddledan> perhaps I just don't understand the meaning - there's mentions within the email over stud being a particular ssl thing
[15:41] <zmoylan-pi> a badly chosen code name?
[15:41] <diddledan> https://github.com/bumptech/stud
[15:46] <awilkins> Solution to the stupid long file names #1 : remove the Sales share from my cloud sync client. Problem with this : the preferences dialog on the cloud sync client is broken.
[15:46] <diddledan> ouch
[15:56] <diddledan> well there's lots of marketing mumbo jumbo on http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/lxd but it doesn't actually help me understand what it is
[16:04] <Laney> hypervisor for lxc
[16:05] <diddledan> yeah I don't really grok what that's saying
[16:06] <Laney> do you know what a hypervisor is?
[16:07] <diddledan> I thought I did
[16:07] <diddledan> I'm less sure now
[16:07] <Laney> it lets you spawn and manage lxc instances
[16:08] <diddledan> I thought lxc did that out-of-the-box?
[16:08] <Laney> I think it'd be easier if you tried it
[16:09] <Laney> then you would immediately see what it offers
[16:13] <davmor2> I just wish I could use lxd to boot test the desktop isos it would be faster and easier
[16:14] <davmor2> :( 1st world problems
[16:14] <davmor2> I finally got uefi working in kvm via virt manager so that made me happy
[16:23]  * Laney hands davmor2 an Advanced Virtualisation scout badge
[16:24] <davmor2> Laney: I spent ages trying to build a uefi img turns out there is one in the archive :D
[16:24] <Laney> O_O
[16:25] <zmoylan-pi> but you learned something while doing so...
[16:26] <davmor2> Laney: install virt-manager and ovmf  then in the final edit switch bios to point to OVMF.fd and then you get a uefi bios instead :)
[16:27] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: yes don't try and create a uefi bios.bin it is painful and rarely builds
[16:32] <davmor2> Laney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19knRjL9w3Q youtube was my friend :)
[21:57] <foobarry> almost sliced my thumb off trying to pop out the metal template of the hp microserver when trying to install a dvd drive
[21:58] <foobarry> popey was right. sata cable 90 angle was the wrong way
[22:17] <mappps> hey all
[22:17] <mappps> ya some of these edges are sharp on cases
[22:30] <mappps> goosebumps film eh