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arahello!11:11
arado you guys know when xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily will be available?11:11
aratjaalton, ^11:19
tjaaltonara: along with the rest, within two weeks I hope11:25
tjaaltonhope you don't need lts-w for cert..11:26
aratjaalton, cool, thanks is there a PPA if I want to try before that?11:26
tjaaltonyes, ppa:canonical-x/x-staging11:26
aragreat, will give it a try, because I tried installing wily on my xps 13 (9433) and it was terrible, so I had to return to trusty. I thought it might be a regression in the kernel, but I am now on 4.2 and it works well11:27
aratjaalton, thanks!11:28
tjaaltonterrible how?11:30
tjaaltonis it skylake?11:30
arano, it is haswell11:30
tjaaltonok11:30
araterrible: sluggish, the cursor hanged every 20 seconds, etc.11:30
tjaaltonk11:31
tjaaltoninstructions on installing lts-w https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack11:33
tjaaltonjust replace s/vivid/wily/11:33
araI just tried, and I got these errors: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14437229/11:33
tjaaltonexactly :)11:33
aratjaalton, exactly, what? :)11:35
aratjaalton, how can I fix it?11:35
tjaaltonuse the instructions11:35
tjaaltonfrom wiki11:35
tjaaltonapt gets confused11:36
aratjaalton, I used what it said in the wiki11:37
tjaaltonoh you had .2 installed? need to revert to stock trusty first11:38
tjaaltoniirc11:38
arano, I didn't have it... so weird11:39
tjaalton libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic : Depends: libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-utopic (= 10.3.2-0ubuntu1~trusty2) but it is not going to be installed11:40
tjaaltonyou have lts-utopic installed11:40
arammm, no I don't think so11:40
araara@sushirider:~⟫ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core-lts-utopic11:40
araxserver-xorg-core-lts-utopic:11:40
ara  Installed: (none)11:40
ara  Candidate: 2:1.16.0-1ubuntu1.2~trusty211:40
ara  Version table:11:40
ara     2:1.16.0-1ubuntu1.2~trusty2 011:40
ara        500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages11:40
ara        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main amd64 Packages11:40
tjaaltonlibegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic11:41
aranop11:41
araara@sushirider:~⟫ apt-cache policy libegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic11:41
aralibegl1-mesa-drivers-lts-utopic:11:41
ara  Installed: (none)11:41
ara  Candidate: 10.3.2-0ubuntu1~trusty211:41
ara  Version table:11:41
ara     10.3.2-0ubuntu1~trusty2 011:41
ara        500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages11:41
ara        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main amd64 Packages11:41
tjaaltonadd libegl1-mesa-lts-wily to the list11:42
tjaaltonapt get install command11:43
aratjaalton, no luck :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437290/11:44
tjaaltonoh, test if you have lts-vivid11:46
tjaaltonor just apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core11:47
ara100 ara@sushirider:~⟫ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core11:50
araxserver-xorg-core:11:50
ara  Installed: 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2.711:50
ara  Candidate: 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2.711:50
ara  Version table:11:50
ara *** 2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2.7 011:50
ara        500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates/main amd64 Packages11:50
ara        500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-security/main amd64 Packages11:50
ara        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status11:50
ara     2:1.15.1-0ubuntu2 011:50
ara        500 http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages11:50
aratjaalton, ^11:50
tjaaltonok11:51
aratjaalton, so I guess we don't know how to fix it?12:00
tjaaltoni'll check it out in a bit, need to fix my car not starting first..12:03
aratjaalton, :)12:05
tjaalton(diesel filter frozen)12:16
mamarleyIs Xenial going to get xorg 1.18?13:45
tjaaltonlikely13:49
mamarleyThanks!13:53
tjaaltonwhy?14:10
mamarleyJust curious14:11
tjaaltoni'll start pushing things to the staging ppa next week14:16
mamarleyCool.  No rush, like I said I was just curious.14:16
tjaaltonnah it's been on the todo-list for a while14:17
tjaaltonara: ok, testing the lts-w down/upgrade now14:39
aratjaalton, cool, thanks, let me know14:40
tjaaltonlooks like update from lts-vivid to lts-wily works too, but next I'll see how it's with stock trusty..14:45
tjaaltonara: huh, weird... the wiki command works fine here15:23
aratjaalton, weird15:23
aratjaalton, do you have any other ppas enabled?15:23
tjaaltonno15:24
tjaaltonthis is a fresh install from late-november just for testing this15:24
tjaaltonalthough, I used .3 and then downgraded to stock15:24
aratjaalton, weird, weird, this is a very recent reinstallation15:27
aratjaalton, I might try in a vm and will let you know15:27
tjaaltonlooks as if you have some package installed which provides xorg-renamed-package-lts-vivid15:28
tjaaltonnvidia?15:28
tjaaltonhum no, that's all-intel15:28
tjaaltonara: aptitude search '~Pxorg-renamed-package-lts-vivid'15:37
tjaalton+ | grep -v ^p15:38
tjaaltonor just | grep ^i15:39
aratjaalton, nothing installed15:39
arahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/14438587/15:40
tjaaltonright15:41
aratjaalton, removing the ubuntu-sdk changed the error message: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14438658/15:49
tjaaltonara: so add libgbm.. and libgl1.. to the command, what happends?15:50
aratjaalton, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14438678/15:51
aratjaalton, this is a pretty new installation (and my HOME folder is in a different partition) so I might just try to reinstall / during the weekend and try then15:53
tjaaltonara: but if you had ubuntu-sdk it probably pulled in other -dev bits too15:53
aratjaalton, I apt-get autoremove after it15:53
tjaaltonyou have libgl1-mesa-dev15:54
aratjaalton, removign that one made the installation of your packages work! (or so it seems so far)15:56
aratjaalton, is that expected? that if you have -dev pacakges installed you cannot upgrade the hwe stack?15:57
tjaaltonshould work15:58
tjaaltonI'll try to replicat15:58
tjaaltone15:58
aratjaalton, thanks a lot for your help, I will reboot on the new stack and will let you know if the problems I had on native wily reproduce 15:58
tjaaltonyeah I get the same error now16:00
tjaaltonactually I don't, but close16:01
ararebooting now16:04
tjaaltongot it working, just needed to add libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-wily to the install command16:05
tjaaltonthough it would then remove libgl1-mesa-dev16:06
aratjaalton, in hte new stack now and so far it works well, the issues i had in wily don't reproduce16:08
aratjaalton, I don't know if that's good or bad news :D16:08
araas my goal was to be able to find the cause and be able to move to wily16:08
tjaaltonheh16:09
ricotzmamarley, hi, running 361.16 now, so far so good17:16
ricotzwith GNOME 3.19+17:17
mamarleyricotz: OK, so should I copy it to the main PPA then?17:31
mamarley(I would definitely put a warning for KDE users to skip this version.)17:32
ricotzmamarley, yeah, I would say it is fine to copy them18:30
mamarleyricotz: Awesome, it looks like NVIDIA dropped the driver version suffix from libGL.so and libEGL.so for i386 and amd64 but not armhf...20:34
mamarleyI'm not sure what to do about that since the links.in template is used for all the architectures.20:39
mamarleyOh, and we got a response from Aaron Plattner about the 361.16 KDE krashing.  It is apparently a bug in Qt, but he has put a workaround into libglvnd and it will be in the next 361 release.22:34
* mamarley wonders if he can compile that himself and swap out the libraries...22:34

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