[00:00] <Gallomimia> so did anyone else see a broken bootloader after the latest updates? cause i did...
[00:00] <MonkeyDust> habs  there's also #ubuntu-arm
[00:00] <sgtnasty> nope
[00:00] <sgtnasty> i keep trying other distros, why do i always come back to ubuntu?
[00:00] <sgtnasty> it just works
[00:05] <Skyrider> heh
[00:05] <pc-carm> hi all
[00:05] <Skyrider> hi
[00:06] <jnoob22> hiya pc-carm
[00:06] <jnoob22> pc-carm, what be on ye mind?
[00:07] <pc-carm> i had ubuntu 14.04 installed with a radeon hd 6570 graphics card, but today i changed to a gtx 750 ti but forgot to unistall the drivers for radeon, now i get a black screen when booting into ubuntu
[00:07] <Gallomimia> awwww yeah pc-carm that happened to me too
[00:07] <Gallomimia> wanna know how i fixed it?
[00:07] <jnoob22> oopsie
[00:07] <jnoob22> restart in a very basic graphical mode?
[00:07] <pc-carm> Gallomimia: sure, what did you do?
[00:08] <Gallomimia> new hard drives in a raid and new install
[00:08] <k1l_> no need for new install
[00:08] <k1l_> Gallomimia: be helpfull, please.
[00:08] <Gallomimia> no, i doubt it. but i would like to warn you that it frustrated me
[00:08] <k1l_> pc-carm: boot into recovery mode. then uninstall the drivers package
[00:08] <Gallomimia> if you can get an install that shows you a command line, you'll have luck
[00:09] <pc-carm> actually, i'm right now in ubuntu but using the integrated intel graphics card
[00:09] <pc-carm> so yeah, i have access to command line
[00:09] <jnoob22> what k1l_ sayeth
[00:09] <pc-carm> just not sure what to do now
[00:10] <Gallomimia> oh good
[00:10] <k1l_> pc-carm: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[00:10] <Gallomimia> so you want to apt-get remove the amd driver package and apt-get install the nvidia one
[00:10] <Gallomimia> oh. purge is better yes.
[00:10] <pvl1> idrac was infact interfering with my OS' ssh
[00:11] <Gallomimia> the nvidia driver package name is usually nvidia-340 or similar. discover what driver version to use at nvidia's website
[00:12] <jnoob22> i got a new graphics card once too.... now i only run via the command line X-D
[00:12] <Gallomimia> lol
[00:12] <jnoob22> i think nethack works? as far as games go
[00:12] <pc-carm> jnoob22: really?
[00:13] <jnoob22> pc-carm, nah just kidding ya ;-)
[00:13] <pc-carm> haha ok
[00:14] <pc-carm> btw i don't know if fglrx is installed... how do I know if either that or propietary drivers are installed for radeon?
[00:15] <jnoob22> pc-carm, i believe i have a similar set up to yours ... let me take a gander for ya ...
[00:15] <jnoob22> pc-carm, you can sudo dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[00:15] <habs> MonkeyDust: OK thanks, I also posted the question there if anyone would rather respond there
[00:15] <jnoob22> ||/ Name           Version      Architecture Description
[00:15] <jnoob22> +++-[00:15] <jnoob22> ii  fglrx          2:15.200-0ub amd64        Video driver for the AMD graphics
[00:15] <jnoob22> oopsie
[00:16] <jnoob22> sorry about that paste :'(
[00:16] <pc-carm> just typed that command, it returned nothing
[00:16] <pc-carm> so fglrx isn't installed?
[00:16] <jnoob22> that means y'aint got it installed ;-)
[00:17] <jnoob22> yuppers
[00:17] <jnoob22> sudo apt-get install fglrx # if you think you need it ;-)
[00:17] <jnoob22> which you probably do
[00:17] <jnoob22> hmm you probably need the radeon package
[00:18] <jnoob22> God help me if I ever have to install a new vid card :'(
[00:18] <jnoob22> I totally forgot how I got mine working before :(
[00:19] <pc-carm> haha yeah that was my fault, for not uninstalling before changing the card
[00:19] <k1l_> pc-carm: do my command.
[00:20] <k1l_> if its not installed it will tell you. except you used the the website installer from amd. then you need to work out how to get rid of that
[00:20] <pc-carm> k1l_: i did that too, but it says "fglrx not installed"
[00:20] <pc-carm> oh
[00:21] <Guest77311> hello
[00:21] <jnoob22> erm.. hello guestie
[00:21] <pc-carm> hmm i forgot if I used the website installer for amd, that was about 2 years ago... how do i figure out in first place if it's installed?
[00:25] <artois> Guest77311: 'lo
[00:25] <Bashing-om> pc-carm: IRT your last ' ls -al /usr/share/ati ' any return ?
[00:28] <pc-carm> Bashing-om: directory or file /usr/share/ati does not exist, that's what it says
[00:30] <Bashing-om> pc-carm: Then you have not install the proprietary drivr from ORM . what about just seeing of you can install the nvidia driver ? what happens ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' from the F1 console interface ?
[00:31] <pc-carm> Bashing-om: looks like that command is downloading and installing a lot of packages
[00:32] <Bashing-om> pc-carm: Will also install the Nvidia support stuff - nvidia-settings, DKMS and others .
[00:33] <pc-carm> ooh, i see
[00:34] <Gallomimia> should work fine after that completes and you reboot
[00:36] <pc-carm> oh alright, download will take almost 30 minutes so i'll try to feedback later, thanks for the help guys
[00:36] <jnoob22> shaka-laka, shaka-laka
[00:37] <Bashing-om> pc-carm: K; We do wnat to know. Insure that you are up and running .
[00:37] <zippo^> he I have a question: how do I type: ø
[00:38] <zippo^> I use English keyboard
[00:38] <Gallomimia> the norwegian letter ew
[00:38] <Gallomimia> wish i knew. i come from the mac world and typing things like that is very different
[00:39] <sudomarize> i'm trying to route all urls through my index.php file, but it doesn't seem to be working (getting 404). Is my .htaccess file incorrectly configured? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0fbd71ca79a8e21e7d23
[00:39] <zippo^> sorry i have found
[00:39] <zippo^> L + Alt (Right)
[00:39] <zippo^> øøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøøø
[00:39] <zippo^> yeah!
[00:39] <zippo^> :)
[00:41] <Gallomimia> thanks zippo^
[00:41] <zippo^> (-: Gallomimia
[00:41] <kiwi__> I have a problem with my touchpad that started after I upgraded to Wily Werewolf. Every time I reboot the touchpad doesn't respond until I put the computer to sleep. When I wake it up it works fine. Why might this be happening?
[00:46] <zippo^> Did you try in Live-USB of 15.10 too? And did touchpad respond, kiwi__ ?
[00:47] <sudomarize> anyone?
[00:47] <issa> HI ALL
[00:48] <kiwi__> touchpad didn't respond on live USB of 15.10, and here's the fun part, same thing happens for live usb of 14.04
[00:48] <drags> does anyone know where I can find a consumable feed of the data on this page? https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[00:48] <issa> YA IM WT YOU WANT
[00:49] <slidinghorn> sudomarize: Please be patient - This channel is a volunteer support channel, and if no one knows the answer, they won't respond.  Usually, it's suggested to wait at least 20 minutes between repeats.  Also, you can try #ubuntu-server to see if anyone there can help :)
[00:49] <Jordan_U> issa: This channel is for productive Ubuntu support discussion only, please take anything else elsewhere.
[00:49] <zippo^> perhaps it works after you install synaptics, kiwi__
[00:49] <issa> WHAT THE PRRAPLIM MY FRIEND
[00:49] <k1l_> issa: no caps please
[00:49] <zippo^> I don't understand why. I always use touchpad and it works great here
[00:50] <kiwi__> zippo^ synaptics is installed
[00:50] <drags> actually, found it in the page itself, the page just loads https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/releasesTable, will use unless the community thinks scraping that every once in a while is a nono
[00:50] <issa> ok but this owr rols
[00:51] <k1l_> issa: this channel is for ubuntu support only. if you want to caht try the ##chat channel
[00:53] <issa> what you whant
[00:54] <pc-carm> hi again all
[00:54] <issa> i want to do same thing
[00:54] <pc-carm> graphics card working now :)
[00:54] <Gallomimia> awesome
[00:54] <pc-carm> thanks everyone for your help
[00:54] <Gallomimia> yeah try a game!
[00:54] <Bashing-om> pc-carm: :)
[00:54] <Gallomimia> maybe add me on steam
[00:55] <pc-carm> sure, got a few games on steam
[00:55] <pc-carm> what's ur nickname?
[00:55] <Gallomimia> the same
[00:56] <Gallomimia> an odd name i have here. had it for a long long time. and the odd thing is that no one else has ever wanted to use it for themselves. be careful what you make up when you're 13
[00:56] <pc-carm> haha i have passed through several nicknames online
[00:57] <Zulu_Too> Greetings folks. I successfully installed Ubuntu 15.10 i386 server and it went well on an Oracle Virtual Box installation. It crashed many times by installing BIND and all of the things in the selection. I skipped that install and Ubuntu Server is there and I can log into it. I suppose that the RAM was not enough for the install with VBox.
[00:58] <pc-carm> anyway, i'll hang over here more often to see if i can be of any help, not very experienced with ubuntu and linux in general, but can kind of defend myself
[00:59] <Zulu_Too> Now the thing is the apt-get installs of the things I wanted to install during initial install.
[00:59] <Zulu_Too> I don't see Ubuntu crash on most occasions. I think it might be a RAM issue.
[01:00] <Zulu_Too> I don't think that the RAM could hold the entire install. I reduced the installation to the absolute minimum.
[01:00] <issa> no
[01:01] <Zulu_Too> I was reading about the updates on apt-get and I get worried about the improvements.
[01:02] <Bashing-om> pc-carm: Great to hang . We can use all the help we can get here . Pitch pn and help as you can .. in the process learn too .
[01:03] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: facts would actually help finding the cause.
[01:03] <Zulu_Too> Apt-get has associated "NON TRUSTED" in the /etc/apt/sources.list    <-----< File. Uncomment out certain ones with install and apt-get works but is not trusted. Strange.
[01:04] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: you are aware what the different repos are for?
[01:04] <Zulu_Too> I have read lots of stuff K1I.
[01:04] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:04] <Zulu_Too> I have seen that.
[01:04] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: so what is your issue now?
[01:05] <zippo^> does touchpad respons good in 15.04, kiwi__ ?
[01:05] <zippo^> *did
[01:05] <Zulu_Too> Maybe I missed something but, I finally installed on Virtual Box the latest i386.
[01:06] <yeats> Zulu_Too: how much RAM have you allocated to the VM?
[01:06] <Zulu_Too> I allocated about 1284 M for the install and 80 Gigs for disk space Yeats.
[01:07] <Zulu_Too> It worked.
[01:07] <yeats> Zulu_Too: that should be plenty as long as the host can spare it
[01:07] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[01:08] <Zulu_Too> The host is OK, but I don't like playing guessing games. I am going to purchase the most expensive computer out there to accomplish my goals. I always look for suggestions.
[01:08] <Qwertie> How do I generate the information like ProblemType and DistroRelease to go in my bug report on launchpad?
[01:08] <Zulu_Too> Virtual Box is the greatest thing I have ever used.
[01:09] <k1l_> !bug | Qwertie
[01:09] <k1l_> Qwertie: the ubuntu-bug command can do all that for you
[01:09] <Zulu_Too> Not only that, a funny thing happened. I installed Windows 95 on the VBox and it ran the slowest. I was amazed to see it.
[01:09] <Qwertie> Thanks k1l_ I will look in to that
[01:10] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: ##chat for general talk. please focus on specific ubuntu support issues in here.
[01:10] <Zulu_Too> Win95 should have by induction run the fastest because it was the smallest OS. But it turned out the slowest as well as Win98.
[01:11] <Qwertie> So I just run that command after the problem happens?
[01:11] <k1l_> Qwertie: yes, and you point it to the package that is having the issue
[01:11] <Zulu_Too> If anyone wants to go to ##chat I will meet them there.
[01:12] <Zulu_Too> Thanks K1I
[01:18] <Techno568> I use windows. Is their hope for me to switch to linux?
[01:19] <genii> There's always hope.
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Techno568: It a operating system - in our opinion the best , but see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2201432 <- new user frustrations .
[01:21] <Zulu_Too> Techno568, Windows is all you know from the outset. Learning Linux is a lifelong experience. You cannot learn about Linux in a day, a week, or a year unless you are an exceptional learner.
[01:22] <Techno568> Thanks genii and Bashing-om and Zulu_Too!
[01:22] <Techno568> How much hope?
[01:22] <okc> where is definition of "UPSTART_SESSION"?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> Techno568: Thoudands a month do it  ,, why not you too ?
[01:24] <Techno568> One thing holding me back is I am obsessed with MS office. I have tried Libreoffice, and didn't enjoy it.
[01:24] <Zulu_Too> Techno568, don't think of learning Windows or Linux in the manner you have been thinking of. Reason to yourself of "What do you want to do with your life and your computer." ? Whatever you need to accomplish with your life as a computer operator either with Windows or Linux is your choice. Make goals for yourself and find out why you need these Operating Systems.
[01:25] <Zulu_Too> Stop asking what is the best OS. Start asking yourself what are my goals and what do I need these for?
[01:27] <artois> Techno568: does all the same things
[01:27] <artois> only for $0
[01:27] <Zulu_Too> Have a nice day folks. Time here has ended.
[01:28] <Techno568> Is there anywhere I can get training on Libreoffice?
[01:29] <artois> #libreoffice
[01:30] <Techno568> i mean like a website.
[01:31] <bazhang> Techno568, libreoffice has a website sure
[01:31] <artois> really shouldn't differ much from MS Office
[01:31] <Techno568> i mean a training website
[01:31] <artois> at least, MS Office before the Windows GUI guys went crazy
[01:31] <bazhang> a wiki as well
[01:31] <Techno568> goodnight
[01:31] <artois> but if you want something that will always work, ditch the office suite for a language of some kind
[01:33] <CandyApples> Anyone able to help: I'm runnint 14.04 and I can't get my box to recognize a SATA drive that is attached via usb
[01:34] <CandyApples> fdisk says it isn't there -- but dmesg and lsusb say it's plugged in...
[01:42] <andywork> Techno568: if you prefer the ms office suite, you can always use it in a virtual machine
[01:42] <andywork> if you have a decent computer
[01:43] <andywork> ash, he left
[01:44] <OerHeks> Techno568 free courses http://www.open-of-course.org/courses/course/view.php?id=86 and look @ fullcirclemagazine - LibreOffice editions
[01:44] <OerHeks> oh
[01:50] <jasonj8> Are there some conditions for the backup utility that comes with 14.04 to execute a backup? I configured daily backup, but it has not run in 2 days.
[02:02] <zh1> https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/39166/
[02:10] <wizzy___> Ok now i followed 1000 guides online on how to get Ubuntu respect /etc/hosts, none are working - how the heck do i enable that file?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> wizzy___: What is your end goal? What have you tried? What command are you using to test your modifications?
[02:12] <wizzy___> It's quite obvious what the goal is of editing /etc/hosts, make it resolve a host that i specify manually in the file. I test by ping the specified hosts.
[02:14] <OerHeks> Did you flush dns after edit? sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start
[02:14] <wizzy___> i did, no change
[02:14] <wizzy___> nscd is stopped as well
[02:15] <Jordan_U> wizzy___: Please pastebin your /etc/hosts and the output of "ping foo" where foo is one of the hosnames you added manually as well as "ping xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" with the ip address of that host.
[02:16] <wizzy___> uhm.. it's 'ip host' in the file, and ping host in shell
[02:17] <wizzy___> there's nothing to mess up, it still does dns resolving and pings the IP from DNS and not the one i specified
[02:19] <Jordan_U> wizzy___: So you're not adding a new name, you're overriding a domain that is already resolved via DNS. Correct?
[02:20] <wizzy___> Correct, and the change is completely ignored
[02:21] <wizzy___> I've setup a powerdns-recursor that exports /etc/hosts and then forwarded traffic through that, works perfectly. No idea why some shitty dev thought disabled the most common file in unix history is a wise idea
[02:21] <Jordan_U> wizzy___: I assume that hosts added to /etc/hosts that aren't resolvable via DNS do work as intended. Correct?
[02:38] <RandomNoob> hello guys. I want to install ubuntu on my usb flash drive 32 gb. how to do that without changing grub?
[02:39] <SchrodingersScat> safest way is disconnect the other drive
[02:42] <RandomNoob> cant disconnect cant disable
[02:44] <Any_where> flash that image into USB disk
[02:44] <pc-carm> RandomNoob: just by curiosity, why do you want to run ubuntu in a usb flash?
[02:45] <pc-carm> why not install in hard drive or do dual boot like typical?
[02:46] <OerHeks> make sure you install grub on that same usb too, you get an option to choose
[02:46] <Any_where> I guess he is want to use ubuntu by any PC & any place?
[02:51] <pc-carm> oh i see
[02:52] <Any_where> RandomNoob you can use VM to flash the ubuntu iso file into usb disk,when you get it you should reboot your PC & press ESC(some PC is other key),you will find that all boot disk on your PC,select your USB disk,press enter
[02:53] <RandomNoob> installed vb went into live ubuntu but vb could not see my usbs. need restart after install vb? im on mint :d
[02:56] <Any_where> RandomNoob No,vb is not support auto plugin usb devices while on
[02:57] <Any_where> Guy was leave.....
[03:00] <rellis> Hello all. I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and the title bar in Google Chrome seems to have panic attack and start disappearing/reappearing. Anyone know of an existing bug covering it they could link me to or any ideas how to fix?
[03:06] <Any_where> rellis reinstall it
[03:06] <rellis> Any_where: I did, multiple times.
[03:06] <rellis> I tried stable, beta and unstable as well.
[03:07] <rellis> i also uninstalled with --purge
[03:11] <Any_where> rellis lollback your ubuntu to ubuntu 12 ?
[03:12] <rellis> I'll just assume you're trolling.
[03:16] <Any_where> rellis ahhh,easy,man,latest ubuntu have a few problems
[03:19] <Dylan____> How can i open sh files?
[03:19] <Dylan____> Cause theres a sh file that needs java and i cant open it with java
[03:20] <Any_where> Dylan____ make sure you are install java
[03:25] <b1rdd0g> Ubuntu Software Center issue. Did a search for music apps. Tried to sort by "Top Rated". Got nuttin but spinnin dots.
[03:25] <b1rdd0g> What's a good mp3 player for Ubuntu?
[03:26] <b1rdd0g> I am currently using Rythmbox, but it seems buggy. It was working, but now is won't play my list, anymore.
[03:39] <yonatankoren> Is there a download from ubuntu to install the distro with no Window Manager / Login Manager?
[03:39] <yonatankoren> would that be the server installer?
[03:40] <okcw> about upstart,the environment variable  "UPSTART_SESSION",where is the defination?
[03:41] <slidinghorn> !minimal | yonatankoren
[03:41] <slidinghorn> or you could go with the server edition
[03:42] <yonatankoren> slidinghorn: Ah thank you! Do you happen to know off the top of your head the difference between desktop and server?
[03:42] <yonatankoren> I've used the AWS ubuntu image, is it similar to that? (if you've used it yourself)
[03:42] <zombie_> irc.evilzone.org
[03:54] <ShutemDown> I'm having trouble connecting an external hard drive, can anyone help me?
[03:58] <slidinghorn> ShutemDown: USB?  If so, please pastebin the output of   lsusb    with & without the drive plugged in
[04:00] <ShutemDown> omg it just connected.  hasn't worked in windows but it appears to be working sluggishly under linux.  I'm going to hold off on help atm.  ty
[04:10] <ShutemDown> It's grindingly slow.  15 minutes to copy a 50 mb file.  Should I run a command to check for drive errors and defrag?
[04:15] <[Mew2]> guys i need some help with nagios
[04:15] <[Mew2]> can i ask here?
[04:17] <elky> [Mew2]: you can ask, but it's probably not the best place to do so
[04:17] <slidinghorn> [Mew2]: This channel is for Ubuntu support only, unfortunately...I do see that they have a support forum here: https://support.nagios.com/forum/
[04:17] <[Mew2]> localhost
[04:17] <[Mew2]> Swap Usage
[04:17] <[Mew2]> CRITICAL	01-08-2016 04:16:41	0d 15h 37m 30s	4/4	SWAP CRITICAL - 0% free (0 MB out of 0 MB) - Swap is either disabled, not present, or of zero size.
[04:17] <[Mew2]> im trying to remove this
[04:17] <[Mew2]> no idea how
[04:17] <[Mew2]> i already know about it
[04:20] <slidinghorn> [Mew2]: I think their forum would be the way to go.  For future reference, if you end up coming back for Ubuntu support, be sure to use a pastebin for logs, errors, etc. that are more than one line
[04:23] <[Mew2]> slidinghorn ill check thier forum but maybe someone here can chime in?
[04:24] <slidinghorn> [Mew2]: oh, it turns out they have a channel on freenode too! :)  #nagios
[04:26] <[Mew2]> slidinghorn im already there, its bean silent for a few hours so i asked here :)
[04:27] <slidinghorn> [Mew2]: Well, unfortunately that's all I can do for you...this channel is ubuntu support only.  We can't provide support for non-ubuntu-related issues
[04:27] <Guest39978> hey
[04:27] <Guest39978> hello
[04:27] <slidinghorn> Guest39978: Hi!   What seems to be the problem?
[04:28] <[Mew2]> slidinghorn this is why i was asking of maybe someone else can chime in :)
[04:28] <tgm4883> slidinghorn: driving people away I see
[04:28] <eagle_rage> do you all have a glorious /run/media folder as well?
[04:28] <slidinghorn> [Mew2]: That's all well and good, however, nagios issues are off topic here.
[04:29] <[Mew2]> slidinghorn i think i understood you the first 3 times ;)
[04:29] <tgm4883> [Mew2]: you could try to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic Just because there isn't anyone in #nagios doesn't mean you can ask here
[04:32] <[Mew2]> why are you guys so uptight about me asking a question here when no one has asked a question in the past few hours?
[04:33] <[Mew2]> does t hurt someone
[04:33] <[Mew2]> its actually even ubuntu related
[04:34] <[Mew2]> actually im not even gonna argue, ill be putting you both on ignore and re-state my question
[04:34] <[Mew2]> if anyone knows how to remove this in nagios please let me know?
[04:34] <[Mew2]> CRITICAL	01-08-2016 04:16:41	0d 15h 37m 30s	4/4	SWAP CRITICAL - 0% free (0 MB out of 0 MB) - Swap is either disabled, not present, or of zero size.
[04:35] <tgm4883> wow
[04:35] <[Mew2]> in pm if nto comfortable here
[04:42] <SonikkuAmerica> [Mew2]: Hi. I don't think your operating system is Ubuntu.
[04:43] <[Mew2]> it is
[04:43] <gav> What version?
[04:43] <[Mew2]> 14.04
[04:43] <gav> Running on?
[04:43] <[Mew2]> ubuntu
[04:44] <gav> (Hardware)
[04:44] <[Mew2]> aws vps
[04:44] <gav> And what are you having a problem with?
[04:44] <[Mew2]> CRITICAL	01-08-2016 04:16:41	0d 15h 37m 30s	4/4	SWAP CRITICAL - 0% free (0 MB out of 0 MB) - Swap is either disabled, not present, or of zero size.
[04:44] <[Mew2]> trying to remove this from nagios
[04:44] <[Mew2]> i dont want to see it
[04:44] <SonikkuAmerica> [Mew2]: You said you were running NagiOS.
[04:44] <gav> Is there a swap partition?
[04:44] <[Mew2]> i already knwo the hardware doesnt support it
[04:45] <somsip> [Mew2]: AWS instances don't have swap by default. Do you want to add swap or just not show that in nagios?
[04:45] <[Mew2]> no i just want to see that critical alert
[04:45] <somsip> [Mew2]: That seems like a Nagios conf issue then
[04:45] <[Mew2]> dont want to see*
[04:45] <gav> Yeah, you'll need to check the Nagios support venues for that
[04:46] <[Mew2]> ah ok so its a config thing, it cant be done from the gui?
[04:46] <gav> Iunno, check Nagios's help
[04:47] <[Mew2]> trying
[04:48] <roaks> Hi everybody
[04:48] <ShutemDown> Hi roaks
[04:48] <roaks> Hi shutemdown
[04:48] <roaks> where you from?
[04:48] <somsip> !ot | roaks (this channel is support only)
[04:49] <roaks> oooh sorry
[04:49] <somsip> roaks: np - just take it to the offtopic channel if you want to chat
[05:02] <nolsen> I can't seem to boot normally on Ubuntu MATE, every time I do, it gets stuck on "Loading inital ramdisk", or gets stuck on the "enter password to decrypt hardrive" screen, how to fix?
[05:04] <niranjan> Hi I can't login to box after updates. On 14.04 desktop, I do get login box, but after typing password just being thrown to login page again
[05:04] <niranjan> I can login via shell
[05:06] <scheng> #tue
[05:07] <slidinghorn> niranjan: when you login via shell, pastebin the output of     ls -lah
[05:09] <niranjan> @slidinghron - sorry, can't paste since don't have ui
[05:09] <slidinghorn> niranjan: do you see something like:    -rw-------  1 root root   53 Nov 29 10:19 .Xauthority  ?
[05:09] <niranjan> let me check
[05:09] <niranjan> Yes I do
[05:10] <slidinghorn> niranjan: does it say it's owned by root?  if so,     sudo chown username:username .Xauthority
[05:10] <niranjan> File is owned by my login
[05:10] <horny-sama> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2309134&p=13419566#post13419566
[05:11] <nolsen> I can't seem to boot normally on Ubuntu MATE, every time I do, it gets stuck on "Loading inital ramdisk", or gets stuck on the "enter password to decrypt hardrive" screen, how to fix?
[05:11] <niranjan> -rw------- niranjan niranjan
[05:12] <niranjan> @slidinghorn, if it matters, I do so mutliple .XAuthority files with multiple extensions
[05:12] <slidinghorn> niranjan: okay...now try     ls -ld /tmp    it should be wrx for all users (drwxrwxrwt will be the first 10 letters you see)
[05:13] <inckka> Hey, I'm looking for a USB sound card brand/model which should be output 5.1 multichanel audio through S/PDIF. For those who already using this senario. Please let me know. I'm looking for months now. even poted to many forums
[05:14] <fullstack> whats the equivalent command in 14.04LTS for /etc/init.d/iptables save?
[05:14] <slidinghorn> niranjan: that's strange...are the other .Xauthority files owned by root or the niranjan usuer?
[05:14] <[Mew2]> any nagios users here that can help me?
[05:14] <niranjan> slidinghorn: it matches the pattern. I think I know what the problem is - every time I used update service packs with kernel updates, my display driver breaks, this time I think driver may not be compatible
[05:14] <enix> [Mew2] ; I might be able to
[05:14] <enix> [Mew2] depends on complexity but I might be able to help. What's up?
[05:14] <[Mew2]> ca i pm u enix
[05:14] <xangua> inckka: tried thinkpenguin.com ?
[05:15] <slidinghorn> [Mew2]: you were told by at least 5 different people that we do not support nagios and that you'll have to see THEIR support avenues for help with your issue
[05:15] <enix> Mew2 yeah
[05:15] <niranjan> slidinghorn: All the files are owned by me with extensions .2wpa2w, ras03w etc
[05:15] <[Mew2]> thanks enix
[05:15] <jpmh> I have just installed ubuntu 14.4 server.  I want to use encfs when I try and mount a volume I get an error,  fuse: device not found - what do I need to add
[05:15] <[Mew2]> slidinghorn can you stop trolling me please
[05:15] <inckka> @xangua No I didn't
[05:16] <somsip> [Mew2]: don't start this again - you got warned about it the other day. Accept that some things are not supported here, but taking it to pm as you are is the right thing to do
[05:19] <bobdobbs`> Hi all. If anyone can help, I posted this question on the KDE forums earlier this morning: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=130435
[05:19] <bobdobbs`> basically, a setting somewhere in KDE is grabbing the key combination CTRL+SPACE. But I want to use that combo for an application.
[05:20] <inckka> Can anyonw who is using an 5.1 external sound card with Ubuntu help me?
[05:20] <slidinghorn> niranjan: I just want to clarify - you have a file called .Xauthority.2wpa2w and one called .Xauthority.ras03w?
[05:20] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: The KDE shortcuts menu should probably have it listed somewhere
[05:20] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: you can most likely disable it there
[05:22] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333176
[05:22] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: last comment in that bug looks like a fix
[05:22] <bobdobbs`> thanks. checking the bugreport now
[05:23] <bobdobbs`> omg. thank goawd it's not just me
[05:24] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: There are potentially dozens of emacs user affected by this bug.
[05:24] <MiningMarsh> maybe even in the triple digits.
[05:24] <bobdobbs`> yeah, that's my issue. I need that keybind for emacs
[05:26] <inckka> - - - Anyone using USB sound card can help me?
[05:28] <bobdobbs`> I can't find the setting for the keybinding though. I'm looking at 'settings'->'configure Input Actions' and also 'settings'->'standard keyboard shortcuts'
[05:28] <slidinghorn> inckka: It would be better to simply ask your actual question :)  Provide as much detail as possible (errors, dmesg logs, your ubuntu version & flavor, etc) and if there are logs, etc that are more than one line, use a pastebin and give the link with your query
[05:28] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: I can't help you there, but there were a few threads that all came to that same fix.
[05:28] <bobdobbs`> I'm sure it's probably the same issue. But that bugreport is from 2014
[05:28] <inckka> lidinghorn: thanks
[05:29] <somsip> slidinghorn: just checking - you know about the bot factoids, right?
[05:29] <slidinghorn> somsip: I do...just don't like the way that the !ask or !details would have worked out for that purpose :)
[05:29] <somsip> slidinghorn: np - just wanting to save you some typing :)
[05:30] <[Mew2]> thanks again everyone :)
[05:30] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: http://askubuntu.com/questions/243639/ctrlspace-has-been-bound-to-invoke-some-input-method-and-does-not-work-in-ema
[05:31] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: that one has a screenshot and a few other notes
[05:32] <inckka> Sound card recomendation please http://paste.ubuntu.com/14435649/
[05:33] <okcw> Is there someone know where is definition of environment variables UPSTART_SESSION?
[05:34] <slidinghorn> inckka: not exactly what I meant, haha - When you bought the "stereo" set up, had you configured PulseAudio to use more than 2 channels?
[05:36] <inckka> slidinghorn: I did. But when playing sound, its crapy noise
[05:37] <bobdobbs`> MiningMarsh: found it! The final comment in that thread said to run something called 'ibus-setup
[05:38] <bobdobbs`> ibus-setup gave me a gui with tabs and options.
[05:38] <bobdobbs`> and I've got ctrl+space back!
[05:38] <bobdobbs`> \o/
[05:38] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: Yeah, heh, I thought I had mentioned the final comment.
[05:38] <bobdobbs`> I bet you did.
[05:39] <slidinghorn> inckka: What version & flavor of *buntu are you running?
[05:39] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: That second link has a few things about upgrading, might still be worth a read
[05:39] <MiningMarsh> bobdobbs`: in case you run into issues later
[05:39] <bobdobbs`> k
[05:42] <basil2x>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:42] <bleb> I just got a new sd card, it came with an exfat filesystem that my debian system can't read. I tried reformatting it to FAT32 with fstab but now I'm getting I/O errors and such. What should I do next? Should I use a format other than FAT32?
[05:42] <inckka> slidinghorn: I'm using Ubuntu 14.04.3. Device identified as CM106 Like device
[05:43] <basil2x> Your system can read exfat... you just need the fuse-exfat and exfat-tools installed
[05:44] <slidinghorn> inckka: what is the output of lsusb  (in a pastebin, please)
[05:52] <inckka> slidinghorn: Hold on its taking so long. Still no effect after ran lsusb
[05:54] <slidinghorn> inckka: that should be almost instantaneous...is your machine currently bogged down by other applications?
[05:55] <inckka> slidinghorn: Thats strange, I've run lsusb couple of days back and it worked. No stuck on the command.
[05:59] <slidinghorn> inckka: I'm going to be stepping away for a bit, but I'd like to PM you real quick just to suggest a better way to ask your question for others to be able to help better.  Can I do that?
[05:59] <horny-sama> anyone familiar with testdisk?
[06:00] <mika_> howdy. what is a good command that lists the most information about your video card? been so long that i've forgotten it.
[06:00] <mika_> horny-sama,  i've used it once or twice...
[06:00] <horny-sama> mika_: need some help
[06:01] <horny-sama> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2309134&p=13419581#post13419581 mika_
[06:01] <horny-sama> i am trying to recover my old watch anime
[06:01] <horny-sama> *fyi, it is a storage drive
[06:02] <mika_> like a usb ext hd
[06:02] <horny-sama> mika_: sata internal
[06:02] <slidinghorn> mika_: sudo lshw -c video
[06:04] <mika_> you changed the whole filesystem. i very much so think that you will not ever see that anime again.
[06:04] <mika_> it's like you ripped the table of contents outta the book and put in a new one from some other book that is in russian language.
[06:07] <LonelyDanbo> so almost 2 years after I've been gaming under Ubuntu with Wine I'm reading "By default Ubuntu will use the open source video driver Nouveau for your NVIDIA graphics card. This driver lacks support for 3D acceleration". Is this why my northbridge chip is heating up like crazy and my computer freezes?
[06:07] <horny-sama> mika_: updated post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2309134&p=13419584#post13419584
[06:07] <horny-sama> to include drive detail
[06:07] <horny-sama> mika_: :<
[06:07] <horny-sama> I blame the normies
[06:08] <azizLIGHT> how do i disable f1 key system wide? i dont want any help
[06:08] <azizLIGHT> i accidentally press it all the time
[06:08] <azizLIGHT> its pretty annoying
[06:08] <mika_> LonelyDanbo,  in my experience using the open source video drivers is not wise. i'd use the nvidia ones.
[06:08] <inckka1> Hello, I've purchased a 5.1 USB sound card, but it's only being read as stereo.  I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.3, and here is my lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14435839/
[06:08] <slidinghorn> LonelyDanbo: That's possible...for gaming, it's probably advised to use proprietary video drivers
[06:09] <slidinghorn> azizLIGHT: which version & flavor of ubuntu are you running?
[06:09] <mika_> i can't see those pictures on there. cause i am not logged in on that website.
[06:09] <azizLIGHT> LonelyDanbo: look into the graphics-driver that gets nvidia properitary drivers: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[06:09] <LonelyDanbo> hm... now I'm wondering if I was told to use the Nouveau drivers before, or if somehow it got changed to that...
[06:09] <azizLIGHT> slidinghorn: im on 14.04 64 bit desktop lts
[06:10] <mika_> azizLIGHT,  you can simply map it to something else i'd reckon.
[06:10] <azizLIGHT> ok how do i go about doing this
[06:10] <mika_> i wouldn't use nouveau drivers.
[06:11] <LonelyDanbo> It would be so crazy if this fixed not only the issues of my in-game graphics settings spontaneously changing to maximum, but also my northbridge overheating and PC locking up issues.
[06:11] <horny-sama> mika_: installing cirmson (amd) on ubutnu has proven to be next to impossible
[06:14] <mika_> horny-sama,  that site tells me nothing as you can't see pictures unless you create an account there.
[06:14] <horny-sama> mika_: one sec
[06:14] <horny-sama> http://imgur.com/43obePa  http://imgur.com/exCEu1g mika_
[06:15] <slidinghorn> azizLIGHT: Try reading this about key bindings, and then take a look at using dconf-editor to do the job: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keybindings
[06:17] <inckka1> Hello, I've purchased a 5.1 USB sound card, but it's only being read as stereo.  I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.3, and here is my lsusb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14435839/
[06:17] <LonelyDanbo> my "applying changes..." progress bar for the NVIDIA proprietary drivers seems to... oh, it IS moving. just very slowly.
[06:18] <mika_> haha. it added some suspense in it for ya
[06:18] <horny-sama> mika_: any suggestion?
[06:19] <mika_> horny-sama,  i guess first copy the drive somewhere safe if you can.   then i would reckon you would have to change it back to ntfs or whatever it was. and then try testdisk
[06:20] <mika_> i really think yer outta luck though.
[06:21] <xintox> how can i upgrade 14.04 to latest
[06:21] <xintox> i have ubuntu server
[06:21] <somsip> xintox: I wouldn't recommend upgrading a server to non-LTS, but you can if you want to
[06:21] <xintox> somsip: why not?
[06:22] <mika_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade works
[06:22] <slidinghorn> xintox: Any particular reason you want to upgrade to the newest version?  It's not LTS (Long Term Support) like your current version is, and you'll have to upgrade sooner than you'd probably like to
[06:22] <xintox> its a brand new server and the isp only gave me 14.04 as opton
[06:22] <somsip> mika_: no - only for non-LTS to  non-LTS. LTS to non-LTS needs a command line option
[06:23] <xintox> mika_: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade says nothing to do
[06:23] <somsip> mika_: sorry - slightly wrong. It's a switch in a config file - you were right with the commanf
[06:23] <somsip> xintox: http://blog.zloether.com/2010/02/upgrade-ubuntu-lts-release-to-non-lts.html
[06:23] <mika_> just put whatever version you want on a usb stick and reinstall it.
[06:23] <somsip> xintox: and on "why" https://www.quora.com/Should-I-upgrade-to-Ubuntu-15-04-non-LTS-from-Ubuntu-14-04-LTS-in-my-desktop-What-problems-in-general-may-I-face-if-I-switch-to-non-LTS
[06:23] <xintox> mika_: i don't have physical access
[06:24] <horny-sama> mika_: photorecs is able to recover stuff but the names are all fuck up
[06:24] <slidinghorn> xintox: Unless there's some feature that's only in 15.10 that you MUST have, I'd recommend holding off until another LTS comes along (next one is in April)
[06:24] <xintox> slidinghorn: ok
[06:25] <xintox> that sounds good
[06:25] <xintox> i guess i'll stick with 14.04 until next one
[06:25] <LonelyDanbo> Is it possible for the selection of which graphics drivers to change by itself? It might explain why my in-game graphics settings also spontaneously get reverted.
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> is there a safe GUI package to clean old kernels for noobs?
[07:04] <baizon> lotuspsychje: https://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[07:05] <baizon> lotuspsychje: TL;DR "IMHO, the best GUI tool is Ubuntu-Tweak"
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> baizon: but ubuntu-tweak is ppa based right
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> baizon: and bleachbit is little advanced for noobs also, so i was looking for something real safe and easy
[07:07] <baizon> lotuspsychje: yes, but you can also use synaptic
[07:08] <baizon> lotuspsychje: ubuntu-tweak is the easiest and nooblike, i mean adding a ppa is also very easy
[07:09] <lotuspsychje> baizon: yeah i know, ive used ubuntu-tweak myself but i rather wanna avoid ppa's on their system
[07:10] <baizon> lotuspsychje: then use synaptic
[07:13] <de-facto> using a .desktop with something like "gksudo apt-get -y autoremove" is not safe enough?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: thats a good idea mate
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: i found gui packages like this: https://www.maketecheasier.com/8-ways-to-maintain-a-clean-lean-ubuntu-machine/ but none specific for kernel cleaning
[07:17] <de-facto> not sure if it is a good idea, it will autoremove all without asking
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: i know ubuntu doesnt remove old kernels automaticly is safer,..but after years LTS use things can get full right
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: so im looking for a safe newbie way to clean older 'older' kernels
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: so the users dont end up with a big 300 kernel list
[07:20] <de-facto> well but having at least the last, hmm say 5 kernels, may be a good idea when needing to boot an older kernel for troubleshooting
[07:20] <somsip> lotuspsychje: aside, enable unattended security upgrades and clean them from Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true";
[07:20] <de-facto> ^^ thats even better
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> somsip: good idea thank you!
[07:21] <somsip> lotuspsychje: but it depends how much you want to manage their machines, and how much you want them to sort it out themselves
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> somsip: well i really want something automatic and safe
[07:22] <somsip> lotuspsychje: could work for you then
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> somsip: you know most ppl dont clean their pc's often right
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> somsip: bleachbit is nice, but many options are also advanced
[07:23] <somsip> lotuspsychje: automatic, but limited, might be good from what you are saying. Will you have to do much admin'ing of their machines?
[07:23] <robotdevil1> Im having a brain fart, what is the command for listing the permissions of a file, directory or device? eg. drwxrwxrwx
[07:23] <somsip> robotdevil1: ls -la
[07:23] <de-facto> but bleachbit remebers choices, you can also call this from a scritp once configured like "bleachbit --preset --clean"
[07:24] <de-facto> lotuspsychje ^^
[07:24] <robotdevil1> somsip: tanks
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> somsip: well not really, its for a store selling ubuntu computers, users will be mostly on their own but i also dont want them come back with full heavy systems
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> de-facto: also nice idea mate, i could tweak a preconfigured bleachbit for them
[07:25] <de-facto> oh how nice :)
[07:25] <somsip> lotuspsychje: fair enough. If they want it, I'd go for auto security updates. Customer is always right. Often stupid, but always right ;)
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> somsip: so, software-sources/tab updates/enable security updates: automatic download+install right?
[07:27] <somsip> lotuspsychje: no idea about GUI - I use ansible for provisioning and edit as per (next tow lines)
[07:27] <somsip> lineinfile: dest=/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic insertafter=EOF line='APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";' state=present
[07:27] <somsip>  dest=/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades regexp=Remove-Unused-Dependencies line='Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true";'
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> somsip: tnx alot, and great idea
[07:28] <robotdevil1> somsip: and what are the values for RWX again
[07:30] <guest-BqNAoV> hay
[07:31] <robotdevil1> somsip: nm I figured out how to query google for the correct answer finally
[07:33] <guest-BqNAoV> hay
[07:33] <robotdevil1> https://www-s.acm.illinois.edu/webmonkeys/html_workshop/unix.html
[07:33] <guest-Dl7tvx> hall
[07:33] <guest-BqNAoV> hay du heiße motte :D
[07:33] <guest-Dl7tvx> >flirt<
[07:34] <guest-BqNAoV> Hay, who are you
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> guest-BqNAoV: this is an ubuntu support channel, please only questions here
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> somsip: APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1"; was enabled via my software sources, the other value i changed with gksu gedit tnx again!
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> somsip: ill test on own system first
[07:48] <zo> hello guys, anyone out there who can help a dumb blond? :)
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> zo: ask your ubuntu question please
[07:49] <sjoshi> !ask | zo
[07:50] <pragomer_1> hi. I want to start a bootable usb-stick via kvm:  kvm /dev/sdb   but I get "/dev/sdc Permission denied". I can do it via sudo. How can I allow this to the normal user? I know to allow a special command e.g. in /usr/bin via "sudo visudo"... but the permission to the files /dev/sdx ?? how can I do that?
[07:50] <analogowy> hi, im using u14.04 and i wonder that is possible to set similar to l. mint function to shut down computer after 60 seconds and press the power button?
[07:51] <baizon> !man chown
[07:51] <zo> ahm... i have usb mounting problems and none of the advice I found online is helping... I think I even managed to make it worse. I can't even see the usb listed in disks - though that is my fault since I must'e clicked something. Please remember, you are talking to a really dumb chick here :)
[07:51] <baizon> !info chown
[07:51] <somsip> baizon: just man in a terminal
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> zo: sudo apt-get install gparted and check out usb from there
[07:52] <baizon> somsip: i thought there is help, because this would be the answer for pragomer_1
[07:52] <somsip> baizon: !info {package} works, but man is man, man
[07:52] <baizon> :)
[07:52] <somsip> baizon: oh - I see. Still ^^ applies
[07:52] <pragomer_1> hi. if I chown to /dev/sdc for example.. next time another usb-stick is bound to /dev/sdc I would have to chown again :-(
[07:53] <baizon> pragomer_1: then you have to change your permissions for kvm
[07:54] <pragomer_1> baizon: yes.. that works. like that I can sudo kvm /dev/sdc without password. this works... but I thought running kvm as non-root would be more secure in general. no?
[07:55] <baizon> pragomer_1: i didnt said you have to get root, just the rights to do what you need
[07:55] <zo> ok lotus... thnx...  installed... ahm, what now?
[07:55] <pragomer_1> baizon: did you mean adding /usr/bin/kvm to visudo ?
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> zo: gksu gparted from terminal
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> zo: you might need to install gksu also
[07:57] <zo> ok.. i'm there
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> zo: now at your right upper corner, can you select your usb drive?
[07:59] <zo> yes i can
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> zo: does your usb have data you cant loose? cause everthing will be lost at next steps
[08:00] <zo> ahm... it actually has....
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> zo: ok then quit gparted please
[08:01] <zo> ok, done
[08:02] <voguebitch_> Anyone dealt with lightlocker going to a black screen logging in after hibernation?
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> zo: now tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugout/plugin your usb and pastebin us the output please
[08:04] <zo> Jan  8 08:59:41 zo-Inspiron-3543 kernel: [54574.264338] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[08:04] <zo> Jan  8 08:59:41 zo-Inspiron-3543 kernel: [54574.267201]  sdb:
[08:04] <zo> Jan  8 08:59:41 zo-Inspiron-3543 kernel: [54574.280568] sd 5:0:0:1: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
[08:04] <zo> Jan  8 08:59:41 zo-Inspiron-3543 kernel: [54574.305813] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[08:04] <zo> Jan  8 08:59:41 zo-Inspiron-3543 kernel: [54574.305817] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[08:04] <zo> Jan  8 08:59:41 zo-Inspiron-3543 kernel: [54574.305821] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> zo: wich format does your usb have fat32? ntfs? it doesnt automount when you plugin right?
[08:07] <zo> it says that it can't mount since something else is mounted... i think that has to do with me making a mistake when trying to tinker with it on my own
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> zo: wich ubuntu version is this?
[08:08] <ajish_> hello
[08:08] <zo> ubuntu 14.04 lts
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> zo: have you tried a reboot and re-plug your usb?
[08:09] <ajish_> i wish to contribute and i am new . could someone help mme around?
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> ajish_: contribute what please
[08:09] <zo> lol... could it be that simple? again, total dumb blonde here :)
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> zo: can you try please
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> ajish_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[08:11] <ajish_> what do you guys do here?
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> ajish_: this is an ubuntu support channel
[08:12] <slidinghorn> ajish_: hop on over to #ubuntu-offtopic and we'll chat about it :)
[08:12] <ajish_> thank you
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> zo: any luck?
[08:15] <zo> hey, me again... nothing.... I got Device /dev/sdc is already mounted at `/media/usb0'
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> zo: so what happens when you manually browse with nautilus to /media/usb0 ?
[08:18] <zo> it's there... it just doesn't  automount (if that is the correct term)
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> zo: so when clicking nothing happens?
[08:19] <zo> no, in nautilus everything is ok... i can access files and everything works, but when I connect the usb it still sends that message...
[08:21] <zo> though, good news, usb is shown again in disks.... it was not there before
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !yay | zo
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[08:26] <izo> Hi guys, have an issue with Software raid on Ubuntu. Created RAID1 for separate storage (after OS install) with mdadm. All seemed fine. Whenever I try to simulate failure after power off and disconnect one sata disk / raid member, I cannot mount my /dev/md0. Via GUI in Disks I see the "Block device is empty" for the Array device. Any ideas? :)
[08:29] <robotdevil1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/2495/how-can-i-get-firefox-to-use-dolphin-instead-of-nautilus               this is my exact issue but I have been through the whole thing and and have the same response and the person second from bottom in small print
[08:30] <robotdevil1> inode/directory=kde4/dolphin.desktop                /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[08:32] <[Mew2]> Is it bad to run nagios on the same machine as being monitored?
[08:34] <root___> c
[08:34] <mika_> what is the command to show you details about your video card?
[08:34] <slidinghorn> mika_: I had answered you earlier    sudo lshw -c video
[08:35] <root___> s
[08:35] <slidinghorn> root___: Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[08:37] <dasefffd> sd
[08:38] <mika_> oh, sorry. i was afk. thank you for that.
[08:38] <slidinghorn> mika_: quite welcome!
[08:39] <mika_> i've seen something like lspci then grep Video or inxi -i  or something like taht?
[08:40] <slidinghorn> mika_: i know the lspci | grep -i video   would probably work as well...but if I remember correctly, lshw will give you more info (could be wrong)
[08:40] <slidinghorn> mika_: sub "video" with "vga"
[08:41] <mika_> that lspci one returned nothing.
[08:41] <haishangxiaobawa> che
[08:41] <mika_> yeah, there we go...
[08:41] <haishangxiaobawa> q
[08:43] <slidinghorn> Jordan_U: might wanna check otter768 for connection issues while you're not afk :)
[08:45] <zzarr> is there a good headless version of update-manager -d ?
[08:46] <Jordan_U> zzarr: First, why are you passing --devel-release to update-manager? Do you want to upgrade to the next development release of Ubuntu?
[08:47] <zzarr> Jordan_U, yes
[08:48] <zzarr> Jordan_U, I need some packages (versions) that are only available in the develop release
[08:48] <Jordan_U> zzarr: Which packages?
[08:48] <mgolisch> do-release-upgrade -d ?
[08:49] <zzarr> Jordan_U, Qt 5.5.1
[08:49] <zzarr> mgolisch, thanks
[08:49] <zzarr> don't worry, I'm doing it in a chroot
[08:51] <Azu> hi, I need help with ubuntu and virtualbox
[08:52] <zzarr> Azu, hello!
[08:52] <Azu> thanks zzarr
[08:52]  * Azu slaps zzarr around a bit with a large fishbot
[08:52] <zzarr> Azu, :O
[08:54] <Azu> sorry
[08:57] <Azu> I'm trying to virtualize ubuntu 14.04.03 on virtual box. If i press f12 i get to main menu with language and install but when i select  install appear this message "
[08:58] <Azu> "this kernel requires  an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686CPU. Unable to boot, please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU2
[08:59] <rory> Azu: What is the host operating system? (The one on which Virtualbox is installed)
[08:59] <Azu> I activated PAE/NX but it doesn't work
[08:59] <rory> Azu: What processor do you have?
[08:59] <Azu> windows8
[08:59] <zzarr> Azu you should make sure that VB handles 64bit systems
[09:00] <Azu> my pc run 64bits
[09:00] <akik> vbox handles 64-bit ubuntu 14.04
[09:00] <rory> Azu: Azu In your BIOS the option for hardware virtualisation might be turned off
[09:00] <rory> Azu: I think that VirtualBox requires this to do 64 bit virtualisation? I may be misremembering
[09:00] <rory> It might be worth asking in #vbox as well
[09:01] <zzarr> rory, I think you're right about that
[09:01] <Azu> i3 1.7ghz
[09:01] <rory> Azu: Of course, one solution is to download the 32 bit version and run that in VirtualBox. You don't really gain anything unless you want to assign more than 4GiB RAM to the guest
[09:02] <mgolisch> but without hardware virtualisation it will be dead slow
[09:02] <mgolisch> id rather fix that part
[09:02] <Azu> rory, i'm studying computers but i don't know to do this :(
[09:02] <rory> Yeah definitely if it were me I'd be poking around in the BIOS
[09:03] <rory> Azu: When your PC starts up it will say a message like "Press F2 to enter BIOS menu"
[09:03] <Azu> yes
[09:03] <rory> Azu: Obviously the exact wording and keyw ill depend on your motherboard
[09:03] <EspositoMartin> Azu,are u using windows?
[09:03] <Azu> i enter in the menu of the bios but which menu i have to select
[09:03] <rory> Azu: DO that, and the BIOS menu will open. You're looking for an option like "hardware virtualisation" or VT-x
[09:03] <Azu> yes, w8
[09:03] <rory> Azu: Not sure, poke around
[09:04] <EspositoMartin> Azu,do u have avast antivirus?
[09:04] <Azu> no
[09:04] <rory> Azu: Did you select "Ubuntu (64 bit)" as the guest type when you created the VM?
[09:04] <rory> Azu: or just "ubuntu" ?
[09:04] <Azu> i haven´t avast
[09:04] <Azu> at virtualbox only appears ubuntu 32bits
[09:05] <rory> Azu: Are you definitely running a 64 bit version of Windows?
[09:05] <Azu> yes
[09:05] <EspositoMartin> anyway sometimes antivirus does not allow to use hardware virt. because some virusses escapes from sandbox that way
[09:05] <Azu> i have virtualised w7 and it runs ok
[09:05] <EspositoMartin> ok sorry
[09:06] <Azu> my problem appears with ubuntu
[09:06] <rory> I'm concerned that there's no option for 64 bit. Are you sure? Can yu check again?
[09:06] <Azu> but w7 runs 32bits, and this choice appears in virtualbox. i've tried with ubuntu 32bits but it doesn't work
[09:06] <rory> you need to select "Ubuntu (64-Bit)"
[09:07] <Azu> but in this version doesn't appear to select
[09:07] <rory> http://i.imgur.com/BOpwJL8.png
[09:07] <rory> What version of VirtualBox do you have?
[09:07] <Azu> ubuntu 5.0.12
[09:08] <impi> hey guys!
[09:08] <impi> i want to get the collective memory and cpu from php5-fpm processes
[09:08] <zzarr> Azu you meant Virtual Box 5.0.12 right?
[09:08] <impi> do anyof you know what command I can use? i tried ps aux but it spits out all the processes
[09:08] <rory> Azu: Open VirtualBox and select Help->About
[09:09] <rory> impi: start with:  ps aux | grep php5-fm | grep -v grep
[09:09] <rory> or rather impi: start with:  ps aux | grep php5-fpm | grep -v grep
[09:09] <Azu> yes, 5.0.12 year 2015
[09:10] <rory> Azu: http://i.imgur.com/tPJ6Sru.png
[09:11] <rory> Does the OS selection look like that? Do you just have all those options but only in 32 bit?
[09:11] <Azu> i only see 32bits version,no more.
[09:11] <impi> thanks rory
[09:12] <impi> im checking in htop at the top it ads all the totals for me
[09:12] <impi> im going to use that, but thank you for helping me
[09:12] <lmtd> not sure if this is the right place to ask, but here we go: i'm considering getting a pre-installed linux (ubuntu) laptop. i'm considering this one: http://www.dell.com/no/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=cn55203&model_id=inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu - which is the only laptop i could find which comes with linux pre-installed and a norwegian keyboard (we have 3 additional letters). if
[09:12] <lmtd> i get this laptop which i assume is 100% hardware compatible, can i also be sure that it will be compatible when new versions of ubuntu are released for at least 5 years?
[09:12] <rory> Azu: In Windows can you please go to Control Panel -> System and Security -> System
[09:12] <Azu> yes
[09:12] <rory> Azu: Within the System applet now open, there is a section tytped "View basic information about your computer"
[09:13] <rory> Under the large Windows 8 logo is a label "System Type", what is its value?
[09:14] <rory> lmtd: It's impossible for me to PROMISE that. But generally future releases of Ubuntu only ever *add* hardware compatibility, not remove it
[09:14] <rory> lmtd: The exception is really old and weird hardware, but that doesn't apply in this case
[09:15] <Azu> there isn't a value
[09:15] <cfhowlett> lmtd, same guarantee you get from apple or msoft.
[09:15] <rory> Azu: So it says "System Type": and then blank?
[09:16] <rory> Azu: Maybe you could screenshot it? With the window focussed, do ctrl+prtscrn, then open imgur.com and hit ctrl-v
[09:16] <Azu> oS 64bits, processor 64
[09:17] <rory> Azu: Did you ask in #vbox btw? The real problem here is that the 64 bit options aren't available from the drop-down
[09:18] <lmtd> rory: alright. sounds promising! thanks!
[09:18] <Azu> drop-down?? what does it mean?
[09:19] <rory> When you create a new virtual machine, you have to select the type of OS you're going to install
[09:19] <rory> You told me that there was no option for "Ubuntu (64 bit)" only "Ubuntu (32 bit)"
[09:19] <slidinghorn> lmtd: you might also check out system76....they're pricey, and I don't know if they'll have Norwegian keyboard available, but here's there site:
[09:19] <slidinghorn> https://system76.com  (sorry, didnt paste)
[09:19] <Azu> yes
[09:20] <rory> Azu: So that is the problem. You need to figure out why there's no 64 bit option available
[09:20] <rory> Azu: Usually it's because the host OS is 32 bit (in this case, Windows)
[09:20] <rory> Azu: But you said the system panel says you're 64 bit, so I don't know what the problem could be
[09:20] <rory> Azu: But people in #vbox might
[09:20] <Azu> ok, thanks for all rory
[09:20] <rory> I'm in #vbox as well btw
[09:21] <rory> good luck
[09:21] <lmtd> i have a follow up question regarding the laptop, which is also a bit "loose". how well will ubuntu run on the specs given? ( http://www.dell.com/no/p/inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu/pd?oc=cn55203&model_id=inspiron-15-3552-laptop-ubuntu ) will i be able to watch 1080p mkv/steam, run gimp smoothly, do basic video editing?
[09:22] <lmtd> it's a rather "bad" laptop, but as mentioned it was the only one that came with ubuntu and had a norwegian keyboard.
[09:23] <rory> lmtd: Ubuntu runs on a raspberry pi
[09:23] <rory> lmtd: Basic video editing might be a bit sluggish. But it will eat 1080p youtube for breakfast, don't worry about that
[09:24] <cfhowlett> lmtd, graphics card and available memory will be the limiting factors for video editing
[09:25] <cfhowlett> My Dell 1545 was adequate to the task so long as I allowed time for it to think things through.  My new dell m3800 has no issues unless I'm trying to do 4k resolution video
[09:27] <jasonj8> Don't get a bad laptop just because it comes with Ubuntu on it.
[09:28] <tinyhippo> cfhowlett: how did you get rid of the problems with your m3800, mine's painful to use with ubuntu
[09:28] <rory> get a good laptop and install ubuntu on it. You have a lot more to choose from
[09:28] <cfhowlett> tinyhippo, I rarely do 4k work so I have no complaints
[09:29] <cfhowlett> I would not describe as a "bad" laptop my any means
[09:29] <tinyhippo> cfhowlett: yeah HiDPi support is rubbish - I've had to scale it back to 1080p, have you ahd any problems with HDMI out?
[09:30] <cfhowlett> tinyhippo, only had a few occasions to use it, but it recognized the external monitor with no problems and offered all  the resolution options.  Haven't tested hdmi sound output
[09:31] <tinyhippo> cfhowlett: it "works" however it randomly crashes X every 45 minutes or so, it comes back within a few seconds, but its annoying
[09:33] <cfhowlett> assuming you're still under warranty, I'd complain to Dell.  Mine had hardware issues out of the box, but the Tech came to my site and repaired once I escalated the issue to the right people.
[09:33] <lmtd> rory & cfhowlett: thanks!
[09:33] <cfhowlett> lmtd, best of luck!
[09:34] <lmtd> jasonj8: if i get a laptop without ubuntu on it how certain can i be of hardware compatibility then? i've installed ubuntu two times before, and on one machine it was an absolute pain, the other only had one issue (wifi).
[09:34] <lmtd> cfhowlett: cheers!
[09:36] <cfhowlett> lmtd, test b4 you buy!  I carry an ubuntu USB around my neck and have a USB card in my wallet.  Whenever the urge to test takes me, (and I can sneak the USB into the device), I reboot and test.  Loads of fun at the official Apple stores!!
[09:38] <lmtd> cfhowlett: ^^
[09:39] <hhhhh> have a nice weekend
[09:42] <Zlepper> Is there something that prevents keyboard shortcuts from working when you have a context menu open?
[09:42] <hateball> Zlepper: Yes, X.org
[09:42] <hhhhh> brucelee,ping
[09:42] <Zlepper> Lovely, any way to get around that?
[09:44] <hateball> Zlepper: Not that I know
[09:44] <Zlepper> Welp...
[09:44] <Zlepper> Thanks anyway
[09:44] <bl1nd> does anyone know how can I set Japanese(Anthy) with setxkbmap?
[09:45] <Zlepper> At least shutter has a delayed screenshot feature
[09:50] <slidinghorn> bl1nd: you should be able to just use   setxkbmap -layout us,jp    (the us is if you want to keep the US keyboard layout as well)
[09:51] <bl1nd> slidinghorn, if I do that I don't get kanjis written
[09:52] <bl1nd> as I do when I set Japanese(Anthy) on System > Text Entry
[09:58] <Dylan____> Ubuntu u need to enable 64bit in bios
[09:58] <Dylan____> Then virtualbox will recongize 64 and 32
[10:01] <mika_> anyone notice on the show 'The.Blacklist' that all the computers run an old version of ubuntu?
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !ot | mika_
[10:07] <nebuchadnezzar> hello
[10:08] <rory> hi dad
[10:09] <fribernamzug> hola
[10:09] <nebuchadnezzar> I came here because #ubuntu-boot is empty :-/, I'm looking for a way to know if upstart has finished to start all the configured jobs
[10:10] <sanitypassing> hi, can anyone recommend a good GUI music converter? I want to convert my music library to a smaller file size to a location, maintaining the directory structure my library already has.
[10:12] <Ben64> sanitypassing: not sure why that needs to be gui
[10:12] <slidinghorn> nebuchadnezzar: this probably isn't the most elequent of methods, but you could have a script that checks each job's status and output to a file - e.g.   sudo status tty1 >> status.txt && sudo status servicename >> status.txt    etc.
[10:13] <sanitypassing> Ben64: Easier to find out which option I set wrong when I transcode ~10,000 songs incorrectly. :D
[10:13] <Ben64> sanitypassing: easier to get the settings right, then just run one command to do it
[10:13] <sanitypassing> that is to say, it doesn't need to be GUI-based, but I'd prefer not to have to learn a whole CLI interface for an application I'll use once, maybe twice.
[10:14] <sanitypassing> Ah, that's true.
[10:14] <Dylan____> Looking at kingsoft office it looks simliar to ms office expect doesnt got publisher:/
[10:14] <rory> sanitypassing: This is a bit unorthodox but if you have a FLAC music collection, you can install "mp3fs" and mount it somewhere, then copy out all the mp3s from the virtual filesystem
[10:14] <Ben64> sanitypassing: what format from/to ?
[10:14] <slidinghorn> !ot | Dylan____
[10:14] <rory> sanitypassing: mp3fs is a virtual filesystem that presents a directory structure identical to the source, but with all the music transcoded to mp3 on read
[10:14] <sanitypassing> Ben64: from: a mixture of FLAC and MP3, and to: MP3
[10:14] <rory> sanitypassing: You ought not to convert mp3 -> mp3
[10:15] <akik> nebuchadnezzar: also "initctl list"
[10:15] <rory> sanitypassing: Lossy to lossy conversion hits quality hard. Flac -> mp3 is obviously fine
[10:15] <sanitypassing> I'm trying to convert a ~200 GB media library (80% FLAC, IIRC) to low bitrate MP3 for my Surface tablet
[10:15] <sanitypassing> rory: all MP3s I have are 320 kbps, so it shouldn't hurt too much
[10:15] <slidinghorn> nebuchadnezzar: ^^  what akik suggested is much better than my method :)
[10:16] <rory> sanitypassing: mp3fs will transcopde mp3 to mp3 too
[10:16] <Ben64> sanitypassing: mp3 is pretty bad <320
[10:16] <rory> slidinghorn: just make sure you select a lower bitrate cos by default it does 320kbps constant
[10:16] <rory> sanitypassing: ^
[10:17] <sanitypassing> Ben64: Well, I'm probably going to leave the 320 MP3s as-is
[10:17] <sanitypassing> but my surface tablet has ~128 GB of space, which isn't enough for the ~200 GB library. I'd stream the music, but it's not uncommon for me to be without internet for a short while, so I'd like to be able to carry the entire library with them.
[10:18] <sanitypassing> I've ordered a 64 GB micro SD card to use for storing the music, and now all I need to do is transcode the library so that it fits.
[10:20] <rory> sanitypassing: The more I research this, the more I'm recommending mp3fs
[10:20] <rory> sanitypassing: your directory structure would remain, along with text files, cover.jpg etc
[10:20] <rory> it would just present a virtual directory structure (e.g.) /home/sanity/music_mp3/
[10:21] <rory> you "mount" /home/sanity/music to /home/sanity/music_mp3 with mp3fs
[10:21] <rory> It only transcodes them when they're accessed, so you would "cp" the entire directory to somewhere else
[10:23] <rory> you could also jsut leave it mounted, and copy files to your Surface
[10:23] <rory> from the mp3 folder, as needed
[10:24] <rory> there's no overhead involved in having it mounted, only when accessing files
[10:25] <nebuchadnezzar> slidinghorn, akik: thanks, I'll look how to know that everything is started from that list
[10:26] <sanitypassing> rory: if I were to cp files from an mp3fs to another directory, I would assume that the copied file would be a transcoded version?
[10:26] <rory> slidinghorn: exactly
[10:26] <rory> slidinghorn: but the mp3s that it shows you in the mounted location, don't actually exist until they're accessed/copied
[10:26] <rory> sandeepkr: ^
[10:26] <rory> fff
[10:28] <trijntje> does anyone here know how to contact the ubuntu mailinglist admins about removing some messages?
[10:28] <trijntje> from the public archive that is
[10:28] <bazhang> !lists
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> trijntje: what kind of messages
[10:29] <trijntje> lotuspsychje: messages that contain private information from a member that didn't realise the list was publicly archived. Health related stuf
[10:29] <hypermist> does ubuntu-server able to be installed without internet
[10:29] <hypermist> ?
[10:30] <trijntje> hypermist: yes
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: always recommended to install ubuntu with internet access
[10:30] <Bassem> i have two lan cards how can i detect if my other lan card is working
[10:30] <hypermist> dont have internet for that machine currently lotuspsychje
[10:30] <hypermist> trijntje, it wouldn't let me get past the Select mirror step
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: but its possible yes, but how will you receive updates without internet?
[10:31] <mika_> Bassem,  plug somethign into it.
[10:31] <hypermist> I'll after the install get brother inlaw to add it to the internet he's currently asleep lotuspsychje
[10:31] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: ok good
[10:31] <mika_> Bassem,  then you know about the ifconfig command right?
[10:31] <hypermist> but it wont let me get past the mirror selection stage lotuspsychje ;\
[10:32] <Bassem> mika_, it only show me eth0
[10:34] <mika_> maybe you have a setting in your bios that can turn it off?
[10:34] <lotuspsychje> hypermist: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys know howto bypass this?
[10:41] <Bassem> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14436981/
[10:42] <Norbin> how to make the menus visible always? google doesn't find much for 15.10 {nothing that works anyway}
[10:42] <Norbin> installed compiz and unity tweaker, not there
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> Norbin: you can choose in-menu or in-window, but not always visible in unity
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> Norbin: when you move mouse over, you can see menu thats how unity works
[10:45] <Norbin> lotuspsychje: i know, it has to be tweak-able tho as in older versions
[10:45] <Norbin> somehow.
[10:45] <Norbin> in 14.x i unity-tweak-tool used to do it
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> Norbin: try this: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity always-show-menus true
[10:47] <Norbin> yeah i tried it too, doesn't help :|
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> Norbin: maybe try with dconf-editor finding the right value
[10:48] <FrameFever> I have ubuntu 14.04
[10:48] <FrameFever> how can I update the Qt libraries?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> FrameFever: sudo apt-get update automaticly updates your packages
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> FrameFever: sudo apt-get upgrade sorry
[10:49] <FrameFever> I just want to upgrade qt?
[10:49] <FrameFever> not upgrade everything
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> FrameFever: thats not recommended to do
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> FrameFever: use the package versions for your ubuntu version from repos
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> !latest | FrameFever
[10:51] <k1l_> FrameFever: from what version to what version?
[10:51] <k1l_> Norbin: so you dont want the global-menu?
[10:52] <FrameFever> k1l_: 5.2.1 to 5.3
[10:52] <FrameFever> I have installed notepadqq
[10:52] <FrameFever> the menu bar is missing
[10:53] <FrameFever> the application is  telling me that the user qt version may not work properly
[10:54] <Bassem> can any one help me with my lan card it dosnt appear http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437039/
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> Norbin: you could also tryout compizconfig-settings-manager and lookup if the unity plugin can autoshow menu?
[10:56] <k1l_> FrameFever: how have ou installed notepadqq?
[10:57] <FrameFever> k1l_: https://github.com/notepadqq/notepadqq#ubuntu-official-packages-
[10:58] <ninja_> Hi, How does cgroup work in ubuntu? There  is no init daemon for cgred
[10:58] <k1l_> FrameFever: ok, so they ship a ppa. but dont ship the proper qt version that it needs to work?
[10:58] <ninja_> how do you start it ?
[10:58] <FrameFever> k1l_: that why I like portable application
[10:58] <FrameFever> they should ship everything bundled
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> ninja_: can this help? https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cgroups.html
[10:59] <k1l_> FrameFever: ubuntu 14.04 only ships qt 2.1 and there will be no update since all other packages are made working with 2.1. so you need another ppa for that.
[11:01] <ninja_> @lotuspsychje - unfortunately that doesn't have much information
[11:04] <slidinghorn> ninja_: did you read the "Overview" and "Manager" links in the last paragraph?  There's more information there
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> !info scite | FrameFever maybe this as alternative for notepad++ ?
[11:05] <FrameFever> k1l_: I have no idea how to fix it
[11:05] <bogdan> Hi
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> FrameFever: or geany and kate ?
[11:06] <bogdan> How can there be such that Lubuntu 15.04 X64 runs on Intel Celeron D 325. He is 32-bit?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> bogdan, yes
[11:06] <bogdan> And how can this be?
[11:07] <k1l_> bogdan: can you show a "uname  -a"?
[11:07] <cfhowlett> rephrase your question.  you can get 32 or 64 bit
[11:08] <bogdan> Linux bogdan-desktop 4.2.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 8 14:46:51 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:08] <k1l_> bogdan: thats 32bit
[11:09] <bogdan> It second OS(KUbuntu x32).On primary os it shows Unknow_AMD64_Computer
[11:09] <k1l_> FrameFever: see this http://sysads.co.uk/2014/05/install-qt-5-3-ubuntu-14-04/
[11:09] <cfhowlett> bogdan, you installed 32 bit OS on a 64 bit computer.  that will work.  but 64 would probably work better
[11:09] <bogdan> x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[11:10] <k1l_> FrameFever: but be aware that this changes qt for all programs, so there might be other apps that could have issues with that
[11:10] <bogdan> I looked at the official specifications of the Intel Web site and it says that the 32-bit CPU
[11:10] <ninja_> ya but that doesn't speak about cgconfig and cgred
[11:11] <bogdan> But i install 64Bit OS(LUBUNTU 15.10 X64) and 32Bit KUBNTU 15.10(works slow)
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  what's the very last line of    sudo dmidecode --type 4
[11:12] <cfhowlett> bogdan, wait what?  why are you installing multiple ubuntus?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> ninja_: maybe something more for the #ubuntu-server guys asking about cgroups?
[11:13] <cfhowlett> bogdan, and OF COURSE 32 bit works slower.  you are not using the full resources of the 64 bit machine.
[11:13] <bogdan> GRUB
[11:13] <bogdan>         Version: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU
[11:13] <bogdan>         Voltage: 0.0 V
[11:13] <bogdan>         External Clock: 133 MHz
[11:13] <bogdan>         Max Speed: 4000 MHz
[11:13] <bogdan>         Current Speed: 2533 MHz
[11:13] <bogdan>         Status: Populated, Enabled
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  use a pastebin for multiple lines
[11:14] <bogdan> Okay sorry
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  in aterminal, type this ... what's the very last line ... sudo dmidecode --type 4
[11:16] <bogdan> L3 Cache Handle: No L3 Cache it last line
[11:16] <lamoda-admin> привет всем
[11:16] <bogdan> Пирвет
[11:16] <bogdan> *Привет
[11:16] <lamoda-admin> есть РУССКМИЕ
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> !ru | lamoda-admin
[11:16] <bogdan> Я
[11:16] <lamoda-admin> круто)
[11:16] <lamoda-admin> ты откуда?
[11:16] <bogdan> Ейск.Тут есть ubuntu-RU а это вроде англоязычный IRC
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  lamoda-admin stop
[11:16] <lotuspsychje> !english | bogdan lamoda-admin
[11:17] <lamoda-admin> а как туда перейти?
[11:17] <bogdan> ./join #ubuntu-ru password
[11:18] <k1l_> no password needed.
[11:18] <bogdan> Can i quote me?
[11:18] <bogdan> lamoda-admin ./join #ubuntu-ru password
[11:19] <k1l_> bogdan: no password needed
[11:20] <k1l_> lamoda-admin: "/join #ubuntu-ru" in some window here in your irc channel
[11:20] <lamoda-admin> где русские сидят????
[11:20] <bogdan> #ubuntu-ru
[11:20] <k1l_> !ru > lamoda-admin
[11:21] <bogdan> Who will help me with my question
[11:21] <cfhowlett> !patience
[11:21] <lamoda-admin> чего за вопрос то у тебя?
[11:22] <k1l_> bogdan: your system is running in 32bit mode because that cpu only can run 32bit. so everything is fine
[11:24] <bogdan> k1l_ i run 64 bit Lubuntu
[11:24] <cfhowlett> bogdan, right now??
[11:24] <k1l_> bogdan: no. its a 32bit lubuntu
[11:25] <bogdan> It kubutu
[11:25] <k1l_> bogdan: the uname -a output did show it
[11:25] <bogdan> One minuet, i reboot to lubuntu
[11:25] <k1l_> bogdan: ok, then please show the output of "uname -a" from that 64bit system
[11:25] <bogdan> OKay
[11:25] <bogdan> Okay
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !alis list wgu
[11:29] <cfhowlett> !alis list #wgu
[11:29] <monobogdan> Hi
[11:29] <monobogdan> It i bogdan Linux bogdan 4.2.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 8 15:35:06 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:29] <monobogdan> Sorry for multiline
[11:31] <k1l_> monobogdan: same machine?
[11:31] <monobogdan> Yes
[11:32] <neredsenvy> I'm trying to copy a file and I'm getting this error: cp: cannot open ‘supervisor.sock’ for reading: No such device or address
[11:32] <neredsenvy> However the file does exists
[11:33] <monobogdan> What is command for view all info of CPU?
[11:33] <monobogdan> Max_speed and e.t.c
[11:33] <tinyhippo> monobogdan: cat /proc/cpuino ?
[11:33] <tinyhippo> monobogdan: cat /proc/cpuinfo *
[11:33] <MonkeyDust> monobogdan  sudo dmidecode -t processor
[11:33] <monobogdan> Yes Monkey
[11:33] <monobogdan> Thanks
[11:34] <monobogdan> !paste
[11:34] <monobogdan> tinyhippo thanks
[11:35] <monobogdan> k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/14437238/
[11:36] <monobogdan> "Max Speed: 4000 MHz"-i can overclock my CPU to 4GHZ?
[11:37] <cfhowlett> monobogdan, question for #hardware not #ubuntu
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> monobogdan  that's not for this channel
[11:38] <k1l_> monobogdan: the cpu does support PAE. so it seems with forcepae this cpu can run 64bit os
[11:38] <neredsenvy> Anyone able to help me out how can I copy the .sock file
[11:39] <tadziz> Hello. I am having issues with mdadm software raid. I have created raid1. When i check details it is displayed as RAID1 but after unpluging one disk it still shows raid array as active just with one drive and now raid level is showed as RAID0
[11:39] <tadziz> can someone point me where to check
[11:42] <profsimm> beginner question folks. Where can I stuff mongo (or whatever) so it runs on startup as a daemon
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> !find mongo
[11:44] <tadziz> so anyone ? any ideas why it dont work ? i have checked all manuals how to set up raid using mdadm but havent found anything what i missed
[11:44] <tadziz> it just dont work when i disconnect one drive when pc is turned off
[11:44] <MonkeyDust> !raid | tadziz start here
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> tadziz  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:45] <tadziz> no its a desktop pc
[11:45] <tadziz> i have checked that manual, MonkeyDust, but thanks :)
[11:46] <Zulu_Too> Greetings! I am starting from scratch with my server. Installed the latest Ubuntu kernel with lightweight LXDE and I am totally impressed with the speed of it on Virtual Box. Before I install Apache Web server, the latest version that I found was 2.4.18   should I apt-get those numbers or just apt-get install apache2   ?
[11:46] <tadziz> and my raid is two seperate disks just for storage
[11:46] <tadziz> OS is on another disk with no raid
[11:47] <Zulu_Too> Also does apt-get find the latest installs for all or other installations?
[11:47] <NoCode> I've encrypted a USB dongle with cryptsetup, now I'm trying to use luksOpen to a mount point but I get, "device-mapper: reload ioctl on  failed: Invalid argument". Any ideas?
[11:47] <profsimm> Folks I have no update-rc.d for some reason. I do have services that run on startup though? Ideas?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> Zulu_Too  just apache2
[11:49] <Zulu_Too> OK thanks MonkeyDust.
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Zulu_Too  use 'sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade' to get the latest version of everything that's available the repo's
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> in the repo's*
[11:50] <Zulu_Too> What I usually do with Sun Microsystems Virtual Box is create a CLONE before installation or modification. It is better than Windows Restore Point if you get what I mean. :)
[11:51] <Bassem> can some one help me enable second lan card
[11:52] <Zulu_Too> MonkeyDust thanks for the unput. :)
[11:53] <yeahokay> Hi all. Could someone please help me with IPtables? I have a HD microserver with dual nics. I want to tunnel all deluge traffic through 192.168.2.119, and all other traffic through 192.168.1.119. My ifconfig print out is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14437319/ . When I added em2, I ruined something and can no longer access the internet from the server. I can access it via the local network though. Any advice would be greatly appreciat
[11:54] <Zulu_Too> MonkeyDust, I was reading that in the /etc/apt/sources.list   <----<  There is a place where you can uncomment certain URL's but are considered untrusted sources of apt-gets. Do you have any comments on that?
[11:58] <yeahokay> Oops, wrong channel. Apologies.
[11:58] <Zulu_Too> Yeahokay, the only constructive thing I can say is BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP before you make any changes.
[11:59] <yeahokay> will do! cheers
[11:59] <Zulu_Too> :)
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> Zulu_Too  ppa's are unoffical sources and not screened ... careful with ppa's
[12:02] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: untrusted in the meaning of its not observed by the company of ubuntu (canonical) but by volunteers from the community of ubuntu.
[12:04] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: or the partner repo which packages are from other companies like skype (microsoft) etc. so ubuntu cant guarantee for that other peoples code. so its you to judge if you trust the community and/or the other companies. (which works fine most times)
[12:05] <Zulu_Too> K11 and MonkeyDust, thanks for that response. I have read that in the documentation, however, with all of the MD5 support, it is difficult to know exactly what is trustworthy or not. It pays in the long run to be judicious in installing anything no matter where it comes from.
[12:08] <Zulu_Too> I have a different viewpoint of technology right now and what I have learned in the past. Ubuntu and Linux folks have been extremely generous in their time to help others as well as promoting quality computer science. I commend all of those here that support good common sense.
[12:08] <k1l_> Zulu_Too: its not about that the packages are not changed whild you donwloading them with apt. its about malicious people putting malicious code into a package you install. the main repos are maintained by most people working for canonical or beeing a long trustworthy member of the ubuntu/debian community. but if a guys starts a PPA and ships malicious code, you dont get a notice or such. so that is the issue of trust.
[12:10] <k1l_> basically: if you add a repo you need to trust all the code it gets put in it. so you need to decide while activating that repo if you can trust the guys who have access to put code into that repo. that is why there are several different repos.
[12:10] <yeahokay> Sorry, maybe this is the right channel, as the #Ubuntu-beginners is redirecting to here! Could someone please help me with IPtables? I have a HP microserver with dual nics. I want to tunnel all deluge traffic through 192.168.2.119, and all other traffic through 192.168.1.119. My ifconfig print out is: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14437319/ . When I added em2, I ruined something and can no longer access the internet from the server. I
[12:10] <jay__> Ben64 : are you there
[12:11] <Zulu_Too> K1I good point and well taken. :)
[12:13] <Flutterbat> yeahokay: as noone answers, are you sure iptables is the right solution for that? why not create a socks tunnel and hook up your deluge to it?
[12:13] <jay__> hello anyone how to get ppa for this package      https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/4.2-2ubuntu2.6
[12:13] <yeats> yeahokay: your post was truncated... last seen was "access the internet from the server. I"
[12:13] <jay__> i mean ppa name and username
[12:14] <yeahokay> yeats - the last of it was:  I can access it via the local network though. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
[12:14] <yeahokay> flutterbat - I'm not certain IPtables it the solution I'm after, I just thought it might be.
[12:14] <Myrtti> jay__: it doesn't have a ppa.
[12:14] <k1l_> jay__: which ubuntu are you on?
[12:15] <Flutterbat> yeahokay: hm i kinda missread it.
[12:15] <jay__> i got that link from http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-2380-1/
[12:15] <jay__> its regarding bash vulnerability
[12:15] <jay__> hello Mytrri and k1l
[12:15] <Myrtti> jay__: are you running 14.04, 12.04 or 10.04?
[12:15] <Flutterbat> yeahokay: but from what i see, both nics are supposed to be able to access the whole world right?
[12:16] <jay__> im running 12.04
[12:16] <Zulu_Too> K1I, I know that this is off topic, however, I have a Buisness that needs dedicated people like yourself. Is there a website to log onto to employ and if not volunteer their tech support to others? If not I would like to have an official link to this channel on freenode and accepted as a QOS  <Quality Of Service> Channel.
[12:16] <Myrtti> jay__: have you done all your upgrades?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> Zulu_Too, canonical offers paid support
[12:16] <Flutterbat> i would use iptables to tell my pc, use eth0 for the following ipranges and eth1 for these ....
[12:16] <jay__> yes i have done its patched now
[12:16] <Myrtti> jay__: then you don't need a ppa.
[12:16] <yeahokay> Flutterbat - I have a dual router setup. First is a modem/router, second is a router running DDWRT which tunnels all traffic through that router, through a VPN.
[12:17] <jay__> i just want to know why ubuntu has kept ppa link in its site
[12:17] <k1l_> jay__: just run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you have all updates
[12:17] <Flutterbat> but you dont want a low level seperation, you want a layer 3 i think seperation
[12:17] <k1l_> jay__: what ppa?
[12:17] <jay__> i thought ppa are not important
[12:17] <Myrtti> jay__: where do you see a ppa link?
[12:17] <jay__> i see here : http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-2380-1/
[12:18] <Myrtti> jay__: then you're interpreting what you're reading wrong
[12:18] <k1l_> jay__: where is a PPA link?
[12:18] <jay__> im very confused when to use PPA   and when not to USE
[12:18] <k1l_> jay__: launchpad.net is used for all ubuntu packages. not only PPA.
[12:18] <jay__> there is no ppa link in there im searching for it
[12:18] <k1l_> jay__: you dont need a PPA
[12:18] <jay__> im searching ppa username and ppa name for that link
[12:18] <cfhowlett> jay__, as a general rule do not use ppa unless you have a very specific need that cannot be met otherwise
[12:18] <k1l_> jay__: stop.
[12:18] <Myrtti> jay__: you're not finding one, because there is no ppa link.
[12:19] <Zulu_Too> Cfhowlett, my website is nothing like any other. It consists of specialists and not amateurs. I will do some homework on Cannonical. Thanks for that input.
[12:19] <cfhowlett> Zulu_Too, happy2help ... and curious!
[12:19] <k1l_> jay__: the site you linked is telling you that the ubuntu packages got updated due to a security issue. so you dont need a PPA because that ubuntu package is already updated. just run the system updates and you will get that security update
[12:20] <jay__> yes you are right
[12:20] <k1l_> jay__: "In general, a standard system update will make all the necessary changes."
[12:20] <Zulu_Too> It cost me almost $1,000.00 for a special domain name. Trade Mark and it is huge.
[12:20] <jay__> but why it is launchpad generally we see in repositories
[12:20] <jay__> but why it is launchpad,   generally we see in repositories
[12:21] <jay__> im thinking launchpad as PPA am i right or wrong
[12:21] <Myrtti> you're wrong
[12:21] <jay__> launchpad is place for ppa
[12:21] <Zulu_Too> Wife is calling me. I will see you folks later. Thanks guys for the help.
[12:21] <jay__> ok
[12:21] <k1l_> jay__: launchpad is not only for PPA. its for all packages for ubuntu
[12:22] <jay__> i thought repositories for packages and launchpad for ppa
[12:22] <jay__> ok ok
[12:22] <k1l_> jay__: the ubuntu packages are hosted on ubuntu servers. but the versioning and code work is done in launchpad too.
[12:23] <k1l_> PPAs are also hosted on launchpad. so launchpad is the place for all the code, but only PPAs are shipped to your system via launchpad.
[12:23] <jay__> ohh ok ok i dont know that
[12:23] <jay__> i thought only third party developers put their software at PPAs
[12:24] <camelblu> Ciao a Tutto il Canale!!!
[12:25] <yeats> jay__: they are "personal package archives", so anyone can create one (which is also why they aren't generally supported here in #ubuntu)
[12:25] <jay__> ubuntu official people will also create PPAs     right  or wrong
[12:26] <yeats> jay__: there are PPAs that are trustworthy, yes
[12:26] <k1l_> jay__: launchpad contends 3rd party code and ubuntu code. but the official ubuntu packages are shipped with the ubuntu servers. PPAs are shipped from launchpad servers
[12:27] <k1l_> jay__: some ubuntu package maintainer are making personal PPAs because its easier to upgrade the ppa than the officially ubuntu repo.
[12:27] <jay__> ok ok im undrestanding things now
[12:28] <sam_> HELLO?
[12:28] <jay__> ubuntu also puts its source code for some packages in lauchpad for development         right ?
[12:28] <k1l_> jay__: all sourcecode (except that where the licence doesnt allow it)
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> wich day will vivid be eol exactly, or isnt it officially known yet?
[12:30] <k1l_> lotuspsychje: end of january. exact date should be presented on the mailinglist iirc
[12:30] <jay__> ok ok , because everytime i see ubuntu logos and Ubuntu Core Development Team (main)   Ubuntu Core Development Team (restricted) and ubuntu members
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> k1l_: ok tnx, might be usefull to warn vivid users this month?
[12:30] <jay__> i see those words in launchpad and i got heavily confused
[12:30] <jay__> that is why im asking about ppa and ubuntu
[12:31] <jay__> i thought ubuntu offically also creating ppa
[12:31] <k1l_> jay__: no.
[12:31] <jay__> these words created confusion tome : Ubuntu Core Development Team (main)   Ubuntu Core Development Team (restricted) and ubuntu member in launchpad
[12:31] <jay__> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu   there are here
[12:32] <k1l_> jay__: you are still mixing PPA and launchpad
[12:32] <jay__> ok ppa are part of launchpad project right
[12:33] <k1l_> jay__: i explained now several times how it works: launchpad is a place for very lots of things. not only PPA. PPAs are just on part of launchpad.
[12:33] <jay__> launchpad is a project which helps third party also develop their pacakges and launch them
[12:33] <k1l_> PPAs are made for people make it easier to ship 3rd party software to ubuntu users.
[12:33] <jay__> okay ok okay
[12:33] <jay__> got it
[12:34] <k1l_> but launchpad is the place for ubuntu-code and 3rdparty code. but only 3rd party code is put into PPAs. ubuntu-code gets taken from launchpad (where the coding happens) and then gets put onto the ubuntu servers that ship the packages to the ubuntu user
[12:34] <jay__> sorry for bothering  you all ( official support people)
[12:34] <k1l_> jay__: so if you run a "sudo apt-get update" you see ubuntu servers and (if you have PPAs enabled) launchpad servers.
[12:35] <jay__> ohh ohh now im undrstanding
[12:35] <jay__> im undrestanding it now
[12:35] <k1l_> jay__: ok :)
[12:35] <jay__> thank you for taking time and explaining more in simple words k1l_
[12:35] <k1l_> jay__: your welcome
[12:36] <jay__> thank you  all yeats  Myrtti  cfhowlett
[12:36] <JohK> hi
[12:36] <cfhowlett> jay__, happy2help!
[12:37] <jay__> k1l_ : i will save this chat for my reference and my people too
[12:37] <JohK> got a black screen upon login problem (15.10, fresh install, old user and newly added user)
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | JohK
[12:37] <JohK> cfhowlett: it’s only upon login
[12:38] <JohK> cfhowlett: I get to the graphicsal login screen
[12:38] <cfhowlett> JohK, test time:  login to the guest accoutn
[12:38] <cfhowlett> account
[12:39] <JohK> cfhowlett: how do I get back to the login screen? is there a shortcut? (ctrl-alt-backspace) does not seem to be enabled?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> JohK, did I misunderstand?  you said you got to the graphic login, no?
[12:40] <JohK> cfhowlett: right, then I tryed to login and I’m now stuck on a black screen with mouse pointer
[12:41] <JohK> cfhowlett: did a reboot
[12:41] <cfhowlett> JohK, reboot.  at the login screen, choose the guest account.  we're testing if some setting in your account is off-key.  guest account has only system defaults
[12:42] <JohK> cfhowlett: hang on got to a different screen informing me that something is weong
[12:42] <JohK> cfhowlett: “How would you like to reconfigure your display”
[12:42] <JohK> (either options closes the window and it reopens shortly thereafter)
[12:43] <zippo^> MonkeyDust?
[12:43] <JohK> (and I have a classical Xwindows style X mouse pointer
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> zippo^  ?
[12:45] <JohK> weird
[12:45] <zippo^> Ik wil niet met je kapotmaken = I don't want to broken with you. Is this good sentence in the English, MonkeyDust ?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> zippo^  this is the wrong channel for that kind of question, confine yourself to ubuntu support questions
[12:47] <zippo^> Laat maar, ik heb al gevonden
[12:47] <zippo^> thx
[12:47] <profsimm> How do I set the user that a service runs under in Ubuntu
[12:50] <rikRoss> IF someone did somehow install a rootkit on our machine "hacking" it. restoring to a back up is one way to undo that rootkit I am aware of. Is iit also true that a fresh install from a live usb or live cd rom image also a way to "undo" having a rootkit instlaled on out machine?
[12:50] <yahn> So there was a pretty large update that landed for the Ubuntu Software Center in Xenial today. Does anyone know if it's still planned to drop it in favour of GNOME Software?
[12:51] <bazhang> !xenial
[12:51] <bazhang> please use the correct channel for that yahn
[12:51] <rikRoss>  if I would have hacked your computer, you would not be able to actually check that you were hacked as I would have installed a rootkit, and the only way to get me out of your computer would be by restoring a back-up since before you were hacked…" is this also true that we could install a "fresh" OS from live usb as well to fix this IF it happened?
[12:51] <yahn> bazhang, which would be?
[12:52] <yahn> bazhang, #ubuntu-devel?
[12:52] <bazhang> yahn, see the bot message right above
[12:52] <profsimm> How can I change the user that a service runs under?
[12:52] <yahn> bazhang, ah got it, thanks.
[12:52] <profsimm> in particular "service mongod start" <-- the command
[12:53] <JohK> cfhowlett: I have to revert a change that I made before, (that did not solve the issue), I’ll tell you what happens when I try the guest account in a minute. But I already testet with a user I added just for this purpase, and the same thing happened
[12:53] <rikRoss> so my question. if we are paranoid, instead of restoring to a backup sonce before we were "hacked" via rootkit. wouldn't it also work to boot from live usb over secure nat router and install a fresh OS with full overwrite of HDD?
[12:55] <rikRoss> and isn;t the safest way to install from live usb offline. then log in after reboot, to NAT router secure, and then update software?
[12:55] <bogdan> Hi
[12:56] <JohK> cfhowlett: can’t actually revert it
[12:56] <bogdan> How to compile older GCC?
[12:56] <bogdan> I want to gcc 2.95
[12:56] <BluesKaj_> Howdy folks
[12:56] <JohK> cfhowlett: I’m no longer reaching the login screen - instead I’m shown a warning “The system is running in low-graphics mode”
[12:57] <bogdan> JohK
[12:58] <JohK> bogdan: Hi, sorry can’t really help you with gcc
[12:59] <bogdan> Okay
[13:00] <bogdan> On my notebook(intel HDA) not works sound.I install alsa but it not works
[13:00] <bogdan> can you help?
[13:00] <yahn> bogdan, which model/make?
[13:00] <bogdan> Intel HDA(AMD E450 CPU).Notebook-packard bell easy note te 11bz
[13:01] <rikRoss> really what im wondering is, when we install from live usb with newly created live usb and install full overwrite of hdd, is our previous rootkit overwritten? or is the truly only way to overwrite previous rootkit by restoring to back-up since bfore that rootkit was installed?
[13:02] <MonkeyDust> rikRoss  start with rkhunter
[13:02] <yahn> bogdan, can you post the results of aplay -l from the terminal please
[13:02] <bogdan> No sound card
[13:03] <bogdan> But card is works.I install same distro(lubuntu x64) from the same iso to second PC and sound works(AC 97)
[13:03] <yahn> bogdan, which Ubuntu release are you using?
[13:03] <rikRoss> I read about rkhunter on that same forum same post. and yes i see. but what im really wondering is about the only way to get rid of a malicious rootkit to restore from back-up? it seems to me to defy commons sense. it would seem that an alternative would be to just install a "fresh" os fully
[13:03] <bogdan> lubntu 15.10 AMD64
[13:04] <bogdan> I try install alsa but is no result :(
[13:04] <yahn> bogdan, so you've tried a different OS install on the packard bell and the sound works? or you mean you've tried the lubuntu iso you're trying to use on the packard bell on another computer and the other computer works
[13:05] <bogdan> In Windows 7 sound works but i need ubuntu
[13:05] <yahn> bogdan, are you able to try an LTS release and see if it works?
[13:05] <bogdan> It LTS
[13:06] <bogdan>  Yesli ya ne oshibayus'  If I'm not mistaken
[13:06] <yahn> bogdan, 15.10 is not LTS, only 14.04/12.04 are
[13:06] <cfhowlett> bogdan, English please?
[13:06] <bogdan> Sorry, i translate some messages in google translate and Copy-Paste not works properly
[13:07] <bogdan> Okay.Yes.I remember.Ubuntu 14.01 works with sound!
[13:07] <amr> i, rather foolishly, did apt-get install ubuntu gnome desktop on my ubuntu install to try it out. i uninstalled it and ive gone back to unity
[13:07] <amr> but i still have a gnome style bootup and shutdown screen... how do i revert back to the original?
[13:07] <bogdan> I try it one year ago
[13:08] <amr> tried unity-tweak-tool --reset-unity, no luck
[13:08] <bogdan> But i need to share wifi to smartphones.Create_AP works on ubuntu 14.10?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> bogdan, 14.10 is dead and no longer supported or discussed.  If you have 14.10, you are urged to upgrade to a supported version.
[13:09] <bogdan> I use 15.10
[13:09] <bogdan> I must downgrade to 14.04?
[13:09] <slidinghorn> amr: I think this might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/403477/restore-unity-greeter
[13:09] <rikRoss> downgrade lol
[13:09] <amr> ooh, let me try slidinghorn
[13:09] <amr> thanks
[13:09] <bogdan> lol
[13:09] <rikRoss> ubuntu isn't apple ios bogdan
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> amr  try this, it offers a list you can choose from ...sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth;
[13:09] <bogdan> i mean to install oldder  version :D
[13:09] <gordonjcp> hello
[13:10] <amr> will try that first, MonkeyDust
[13:10] <amr> ty
[13:10] <bogdan> Thanks
[13:10] <gianni1000> hello
[13:10] <bogdan> I try install Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[13:10] <bogdan> hi
[13:10] <amr> yea i think that mightve done it, time to reboot
[13:10] <gordonjcp> is there a planned replacement for l2tp in 15.10?
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> what's l2tp
[13:11] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: layer 2 tunneling, it's how VPNs work
[13:11] <amr> it certainly did work, thanks MonkeyDust
[13:11] <amr> :_)
[13:11] <gordonjcp> or does Ubuntu no longer support VPN access?
[13:11] <yahn> gordonjcp, Ubuntu supports VPN access very well
[13:11] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, vpn is supported
[13:11] <MonkeyDust> amr  glad i could help
[13:12] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: it's got pptp, but nothing else
[13:12] <gordonjcp> and openswan seems to have been removed
[13:12] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, this is UBUNTU and not some other derivative??
[13:12] <cfhowlett> because my "add a VPN" is right there in the menu
[13:12] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: this is Ubuntu
[13:13] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: more specifically xubuntu, but I don't see that making a difference
[13:13] <MonkeyDust> gordonjcp  what's the ouptut of   cat /etc/issue
[13:13] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: "add a VPN", and it only supports PPTP
[13:13] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, wait 1
[13:13] <yahn> gordonjcp, this guide may help you: https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/IPSEC_L2TP_vpn_with_Ubuntu_14.04.html
[13:13] <bogdan> Hm
[13:14] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, you should have pptp and "import a saved VPN configuration"
[13:14] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 15.10 \n \l
[13:14] <bogdan> What is best linux boot loader?
[13:14] <bogdan> plymouth, grub, grub2 or lilo?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> bogdan, the default is grub
[13:14] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: yes, but that doesn't help since OpenSWAN isn't available
[13:14] <gordonjcp> yahn: that's for 14.04, before OpenSWAN was removed
[13:15] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, right I am on 14.04.  sorry.
[13:15] <gordonjcp> cfhowlett: ah :-/
[13:15] <bogdan> Minix compatible with linux programs?
[13:16] <cfhowlett> bogdan, ask #linux
[13:16] <k1l_> bogdan: ubuntu uses grub2. which is pretty widespread.
[13:16] <BluesKaj_> gordonjcp,kvpnc still supports openswan
[13:16] <bogdan> X Window system analog is exists?
[13:17] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: hm, where does it install it from?
[13:17] <yahn> gordonjcp, openswan was replaced by strongswan I believe
[13:17] <NoCode> "sudo cryptsetup luksFormat -v -c twofish-xts -s 512 -h sha256 --use-urandom --verify-passphrase /dev/1234" seems to format my drive, but I am getting an error. "device-mapper: reload ioctl on  failed: Invalid argument".
[13:18] <BluesKaj_> gordonjcp, looks like ike has openswan amongst others
[13:19] <gordonjcp> yahn: yeah, but strongswan doesn't work in the same way
[13:19] <bogdan> Hi
[13:19] <bogdan> If i want i can fork linux kernel?
[13:19] <ioni> hello guys
[13:20] <bogdan> hi
[13:20] <k1l_> bogdan: ##linux for that talk
[13:20] <bogdan> invitated only
[13:20] <ioni> can somebody who is running ubuntu 14 on 32 bit run uname -m and send me the output?
[13:20] <bogdan> *invited
[13:20] <k1l_> bogdan: nope
[13:20] <bogdan> Send screenshot?
[13:20] <ioni> just the text
[13:20] <ioni> it's i386 or i686?
[13:21] <k1l_> bogdan: mind the double ##. for questions about the network please ask in #freenode
[13:21] <BluesKaj_> gordonjcp, Im quoting from muon: This package provides a IKEv1 (ipsec key exchange) daemon and libraries used to maintain a IPSec VPN connection. It provides similar functionality as racoon, OpenSwan, FreeSwan, StrongSwan, IsaKmpD but is more user-interactive.
[13:21] <bogdan> Joining #linux requires an invitation.
[13:21] <NoCode> ##linux
[13:21] <Myrtti> bogdan: ## - not #
[13:22] <bogdan> ##linux?
[13:22] <k1l_> bogdan: re read what i said.
[13:22] <BluesKaj_> bogdan, join ##linux
[13:22] <bogdan> thanks
[13:22] <bogdan> :)
[13:22] <bogdan> Cannot send to channel
[13:23] <jay__> thank you everyone...
[13:23] <Flutterbat> oh boy
[13:23] <bogdan> I noob in IRC...
[13:23] <NoCode> OR does it format the drive? Perhaps it just encrypts it.
[13:23] <NoCode> Whaev
[13:23] <Flutterbat> bogdan: nickserv?
[13:24] <Flutterbat> but afaik #ubuntu requires authentification as well
[13:24] <k1l_> !register | bogdan for more help on the irc ask in #freenode .this channel is ubuntu support only
[13:24] <k1l_> Flutterbat: it doesnt
[13:24] <NoCode> Ain't working for shit, and strace blobs too much information. Undecided if I want to release the info to see about such issue.
[13:24] <Flutterbat> k1l_: oh
[13:24] <bogdan> thanks
[13:24] <bogdan> !register
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> NoCode  avoid profane words here
[13:24] <mgclick> hi guys
[13:24] <NoCode> Of course master.
[13:24] <mgclick> anybody can help me with a drivers issue (i think) on ubuntu 15.10?
[13:25] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: thanks, I'll take a look at that
[13:26] <ioni> nobody is using ubuntu on 32 bit?
[13:26] <bogdan> AAAAA
[13:26] <bogdan> Not works
[13:26] <cfhowlett> ioni, 32 bit is ancient tech and will become obsolete quite soon.
[13:26] <BluesKaj_> gordonjcp, have you considered openvpn or is your server restricted to ipsec?
[13:26] <gianni1000_> hi
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> ioni  yes, i am, in a VM ... what's your question
[13:26] <NoCode> It seems this channel restricts itself to more policy than actual help for the distribution nowadays. You have 15 people saying, "Don
[13:26] <ioria> ioni give me a sec , but i got 15.10
[13:26] <NoCode> It seems this channel restricts itself to more policy than actual help for the distribution nowadays. You have 15 people saying, "Don't do that!"
[13:27] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: I have an existing l2tp/ipsec setup
[13:27] <ioni> MonkeyDust, just the output of uname -m
[13:27] <k1l_> NoCode: could you please drop that drama? thanks.
[13:27] <NoCode> heh
[13:27] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: I guess I could replace it with openvpn, assuming I can work out how to do layer 2 tunnelling
[13:27] <MonkeyDust> ioni  ok, be with you in a sec ...
[13:27] <gordonjcp> NoCode: did you have an Ubuntu technical support question?
[13:27] <NoCode> Yup
[13:28] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: tbh I could probably live without l2
[13:28] <ioni> MonkeyDust, thank you
[13:28] <ioria> ioni i686
[13:29] <NoCode> gordonjcp: "sudo cryptsetup luksFormat -v -c twofish-xts -s 512 -h sha256 --use-urandom --verify-passphrase /dev/1234" seems to format my drive, but I am getting an error. "device-mapper: reload ioctl on  failed: Invalid argument".
[13:29] <joaquim> hola a todos
[13:29] <JohK> hi
[13:29] <cfhowlett> !es | joaquim
[13:30] <NoCode> The error is proceeded when I use LuksOpen.
[13:30] <joaquim> hello
[13:30] <JohK> my pc boots to the “the system is running low-graphics mode” error, nvidida driver is reinstalled, I have no errors in the xserver log, nvidia driver seems to be loaded correctly
[13:30] <gordonjcp> NoCode: https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=48350
[13:30] <gordonjcp> NoCode: ^ does that sound like your problem?
[13:30] <was614> hello
[13:30] <gordonjcp> NoCode: /dev/1234 doesn't sound like a real device
[13:31] <MonkeyDust> ioni  what ioria says ... i686
[13:31] <ioni> MonkeyDust, thanks a lot
[13:31] <NoCode> gordonjcp: Of coarse it isn't.
[13:31] <gordonjcp> NoCode: well, what's the *real* device name?
[13:32] <gordonjcp> NoCode: is it a bare disk?  Is it a RAID?  LVM?
[13:32] <gordonjcp> NoCode: this is potentially significant
[13:32] <BluesKaj_> gordonjcp, http://askubuntu.com/questions/492648/how-to-create-a-vpn-server
[13:32] <joaquim> hola
[13:32] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: thanks, I'm already running one - just that 15.10 has been sabotaged to the extent it can't talk to it :-D
[13:33] <BluesKaj_> gordonjcp, yeah that's a bummer..there are other tuts , just need to research them
[13:34] <NoCode> gordonjcp: The device is a USB dongle.
[13:34] <optimistic7> how update management system works in ubuntu?
[13:34] <gordonjcp> NoCode: so, it's just appearing as a bare disk?
[13:34] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: yeah, to be quite honest I might just scrap what I've got and go OpenVPN
[13:35] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: there was a good reason why I didn't do that, Back In The Day, but I can't remember what it was now
[13:35] <gordonjcp> NoCode: can you format it without encryption?
[13:35] <NoCode> gordonjcp: It's appearing as an encrypted disk.
[13:35] <optimistic7> how update management system works in ubuntu?
[13:36] <gordonjcp> NoCode: are you trying to wipe the disk and format it from scratch, or do you have data on it you care about?
[13:36] <ioni> ioria, another question and i'm going to leave you alone :D
[13:37] <NoCode> gordonjcp: I'm trying to open it with luksOpen.
[13:37] <BluesKaj_> i understand openvpn is more and less cumbersome than ipsec, gordonjcp, I'm merely an openvpn user connecting my client to PIA a commercial server
[13:37] <ioria> ioni shoot
[13:37] <optimistic7> how update management system works in ubuntu?
[13:37] <ioni> ioria, can you run python and then import platform and then platform.machine()
[13:37] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj_: okay
[13:37] <ioni> ioria, still i686?
[13:37] <k1l_> optimistic7: what do you mean exactly?
[13:37] <NoCode> hateball: U R.
[13:37] <ioria> ioni a moment ... you mean 2.7 or 3.4 ?
[13:38] <ioni> ioria, 2.7
[13:38] <ioria> ok
[13:38] <optimistic7> i mean how exactly linux kernel knows that there is any software or package update
[13:38] <optimistic7> ?
[13:38] <k1l_> optimistic7: its not the linux kernel its apt.
[13:38] <k1l_> !apt | optimistic7
[13:38] <ioria> ioni  pye, still i686
[13:38] <ioria> *yep
[13:39] <NoCode> I'm just wondering if the kernel has enabled the crypto module.
[13:39] <EriC^^> optimistic7: the kernel doesn't know, the kernel just manages stuff between hardware and software and memory and processes etc. the package manager knows if there's an update
[13:39] <ioni> ioria, thanks
[13:39] <NoCode> I guess cat /proc/crypto will show.
[13:39] <ioria> ioni  no problem
[13:40] <optimistic7> how often does apt check for updates?
[13:40] <EriC^^> optimistic7: the package manager is built like this, dpkg < apt < software center ( being layers on top of each other )
[13:40] <EriC^^> optimistic7: it doesn't by itself, the software center does though, like every day i think i dunno
[13:41] <yahn> optimistic7, by default it checks for updates every day. You can change this in 'Software and Updates' -> Updates
[13:42] <NoCode> http://pastebin.com/RE5yR6aA -- No mention of blowfish in there.
[13:43] <I-am-Groot> Hello! Its me again.My Dell Latitude e6420 running Ubuntu 14.04 has begun to crash again. It crashes and gives me this terminal looking screen.And at the end of ths screen it says..Shutting down CPUs with NMI. drm_kms_helper:panic occurred, switching to text console
[13:44] <I-am-Groot> WHat is wrong with my installation and how do i fix these crashes
[13:44] <C_minus> My laptop has trouble booting Ubuntu. This happens after shutting down Win7 and restarting Ubuntu - get stuck on the 5-dot splash screen. I get around it by choosing "advanced options" in GRUB and booting with the previous kernel version. Any ideas on why this is?
[13:44] <aaser> Hey, I just installed ubuntu, and it had my keyboard layout (NO-colemak). However, I then installed the lubuntu DE which does not seem to have the layout I use. Anyone know how I can get my preferred KB layouts?
[13:45] <EriC^^> aaser: settings > text entry or so probably
[13:45] <k1l_> C_minus: only after a windows boot or everytime with that kernel version?
[13:45] <aaser> It has lots of layouts, bur its missing the one I need
[13:46] <EriC^^> aaser: maybe you can add it, look for a + sign
[13:47] <aaser> No, nothing. I mean I do have access to a wide variety of layouts, but japanese does me little good :(
[13:47] <C_minus> Yes only when Win7 was the last OS used. I've only used this "workaround" once - the last time it happened, I just kept trying to boot about 8-10 times and eventually it jsut worked.
[13:47] <k1l_> C_minus: are you using the reboot or shutdown option in windows?
[13:47] <EriC^^> C_minus: what's the problem?
[13:48] <C_minus> Also, note that if I select "recovery mode" and then "resume normal boot" I get past the splash screen, but I get stuck in a login loop.
[13:48] <C_minus> Shutdown from Win7.
[13:48] <aaser> So basically, it has most layouts but its missing special snowflake layouts for special snowflakes like me
[13:49] <EriC^^> aaser: you can probably download it, i've no idea how though
[13:49] <EriC^^> ask the channel again
[13:49] <yahn> C_minus, does the problem occur if you switch the laptop off and then just try to run Ubuntu first?
[13:49] <I-am-Groot> Can anyone help me with my crashes on ubuntu 14.04?
[13:49] <EriC^^> C_minus: i missed the first part of your problem, what happens when you normally boot?
[13:50] <yahn> I-am-Groot, I'm looking for some info for you now
[13:50] <aaser> Aight, anyone know how I can get special snowflake keyboard layouts in lubuntu DE? I have them available in normal ubuntu but they are missing in lubuntu
[13:50] <C_minus> yahn, I'm not sure what you mean by "first". This is a problem when I turn on the computer and the last session was using Win7.
[13:50] <I-am-Groot> yahn: THank you
[13:50] <yahn> I-am-Groot, are you able to boot by selecting an older kernel in grub on bootup?
[13:50] <yahn> I-am-Groot, under advanced options
[13:50] <EriC^^> C_minus: what problem? you said in recovery mode you get a login loop, what about in normal mode?
[13:51] <EriC^^> the login loop could be due to recovery using different graphics options
[13:51] <C_minus> Eric^^ Oh in normal mode I see the 5 dot spash screen forever.
[13:51] <yahn> C_minus, is this an optimus laptop by any chance?
[13:51] <k1l_> C_minus: best is to look into the logs from that boot that did crash
[13:51] <EriC^^> did you try pressing esc to see what it's hanging on? C_minus ?
[13:51] <Antares> Hello everyone, I've got a problem which is not really ubuntu related but more "newly assembled pc won't run at all" ... Since I don't know any other channels I hoped someone here would help me out
[13:51] <I-am-Groot> yahn, I am able to boot by selecting an older kernel
[13:51] <bogdan> Can i compile bash to exe program?
[13:51] <I-am-Groot> I am still able to boot without selecting an older kernel
[13:51] <C_minus> yahn It's Dell Precision M3800 - k1l I pastebinned the syslog here last time it happened and nobody could find anything amiss. It's way over my head.
[13:51] <bogdan> bash script to ELF and EXE program?
[13:52] <bogdan> like py2exe
[13:52] <k1l_> bogdan: ask the bash/gnu guys. this is not really a ubuntu topic
[13:52] <I-am-Groot> But Ubuntu just crashes and show me that screen after using the PC for some time.
[13:52] <cfhowlett> C_minus, I have a 3800 - restate your issue?
[13:52] <akik> C_minus: you can enable the boot messages by removing "quiet splash" from the kernel boot command line, so you can see on the console what is failing
[13:52] <I-am-Groot> I dont know what actually causes it to crash
[13:52] <yahn> C_minus, that's OK. Have you installed the proprietary nvidia driver in Ubuntu?
[13:53] <yahn> I-am-Groot, it could be a kernel regression
[13:53] <huehue> morning guys!!!
[13:53] <bogdan> C++ coding
[13:53] <C_minus> So say I've been using Win7 - the next time I wish to use Ubuntu (after shutdown and power on) it fails to boot, hangs on splash, requires booting earlier kernel version
[13:53] <bogdan> Can i install ubuntu phone on my MTK6572 phone?
[13:53] <yahn> I-am-Groot, which kernel works and which one doesn't?
[13:53] <I-am-Groot> When it crashes, the capslock light begins to flash and nothing seems to respond except for holding the power button
[13:53] <Antares> When I turn on the pc there is only the cpu load red led ticking and a quite clicking sound coming from somewhere... does this mean a shorted circuit? Or perhaps it's the PSU with 4-pin cpu power and my MB having 8-pin socket?
[13:53] <C_minus> yahn yes I went to "additional drivers" and chose a working nvidia one.
[13:53] <huehue> Well, i need help to make work rtl8723ae about ubuntu 12.04.5
[13:53] <I-am-Groot> They all work
[13:54] <Antares> anyone please, the computer i built is a present for my gf's birthday
[13:54] <cfhowlett> C_minus, and you upgraded the bios?  a09 is current iirc
[13:54] <C_minus> yes i have version a09
[13:54] <yahn> I-am-Groot, so they all boot but only one gives you a kernel panic? or they all do
[13:54] <I-am-Groot> yahn, All the kernels are able to boot me into Ubuntu
[13:54] <k1l_> bogdan: see the #ubuntu-touch channels topic about the supported devices and what devices got community ports already. basically: yes you can make a port for your device, but that needs a lot coding experience.
[13:54] <C_minus> I've gotta run - I'll pastebin you guys the syslog next time this happens and you can have fun deciphering it :) laters
[13:55] <bogdan> I write on C++.I can compile official Android Kernel for my ZTE
[13:55] <I-am-Groot> Not really... I tried two of the kernels which all crashed after sometime.
[13:55] <cfhowlett> !ot | bogdan,
[13:55] <yahn> C_minus, have you tried disabling secure boot?
[13:55] <I-am-Groot> But i havent been able to use the rest of the kernels for a long time to see if they also crash or not
[13:56] <yahn> I-am-Groot, I see. Are you able to use any other OS's?
[13:56] <bogdan> Okay thanks
[13:56] <I-am-Groot> Yes i am.
[13:57] <yahn> I-am-Groot, Windows or other linux distros?
[13:57] <I-am-Groot> I have windows 8.0 installed and i was able to boot into it last Wednesday
[13:57] <I-am-Groot> Windows
[13:58] <yahn> I-am-Groot, any chance you'd be able to test 15.10 and see if it remains stable?
[13:58] <aaser> Anyone know how I can get special snowflake keyboard layouts for lubuntu DE? Stuff like colemak NO which is missing currently.
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !find snowflake
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> !find colemak
[14:00] <I-am-Groot> ATM, i dont think that would be possible. THats because my hardrive is almost full. I intend to buy a hard disk caddy for my latitude so that i can move all my stuff from the preinstalled 320gb that i use.
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> aaser  what's snowflake? what's colemak?
[14:00] <aaser> colemak is a keyboard layout
[14:00] <aaser> for people too special and unique for qwert and dvorak
[14:00] <I-am-Groot> I only have 1.2gb space left on my ubuntu partition
[14:01] <aaser> It is available by default on ubuntu, but not on lubuntu
[14:01] <yahn> aaser, this thread might help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2219545
[14:02] <PCatinean> Hey guys vsftp does not allow files that are not owned by root and I want to grant access to a certain directory outside of it
[14:02] <PCatinean> Can anyone help me?
[14:03] <yahn> I-am-Groot, still looking for info, one moment
[14:04] <I-am-Groot> yahn, Okay.
[14:04] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: the NMI thing sounds suspiciously memory-related
[14:04] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: can you boot up and run memtest86?
[14:06] <I-am-Groot> gordonjcp, Really?? I have created multiple users on Chrome so that i can access whatsapp through whatsappweb from my phone and tablet. So i normally have 3 instance of chrome running when it crashes.
[14:06] <yahn> gordonjcp, my suspicion is that it's I/O related
[14:06] <I-am-Groot> Could that be the reason?
[14:06] <I-am-Groot> gordonjcp, Okay
[14:08] <gordonjcp> yahn: could be
[14:08] <gordonjcp> historically NMI is tied to various hardware traps like RAM parity errors
[14:09] <huehue> copy rtl8723fw_B.bin and rtl8723fw.bin /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/ and won't work
[14:09] <I-am-Groot> gordonjcp, I got a command not found after entering memtest86 in terminal
[14:09] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: it's in the GRUB menu
[14:09] <gordonjcp> you'd see it when you boot up
[14:09] <gordonjcp> it takes ages
[14:10] <PCatinean> I do mount --bind path1 path2
[14:10] <gordonjcp> run it overnight, keep your laptop warm when it's running because memory errors are often heat-related
[14:10] <PCatinean> even though path1 has files in it when I cd into path 2
[14:10] <PCatinean> it's emptyu
[14:11] <yahn> I-am-Groot, I would also suggest running an extended disk self-test. There's a program called Disks that's installed by default that you can do this with
[14:11] <huehue> Well, i need help to make work rtl8723ae about ubuntu 12.04.5.
[14:12] <I-am-Groot> okkay
[14:12] <I-am-Groot> Lool...then i will use that as a last resort
[14:12] <I-am-Groot> gordonjcp, You are right, oflate the part of my PC where the RAM is mounted feels even hotter than the CPU vent :|
[14:13] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: maybe just popping out the RAM and reseating it will help
[14:13] <Mathisen> dont know hwo handles http://ubuntu-se.org/drupal/ but there are php error showing....
[14:13] <huehue> Well, i need help to make work rtl8723ae with kernel 3.5.
[14:13] <I-am-Groot> Is there a way to check RAM temperature?
[14:14] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: ghods now you're asking
[14:14] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: I feel like ACPI or lmsensors ought to tell you something like that but I've never tried
[14:14] <I-am-Groot> gordonjcp, Okay. I will try that
[14:14] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: I'd do a memtest first
[14:15] <I-am-Groot> OOkay... But as you said i will have to do a memtest over night
[14:15] <I-am-Groot> Its 2:15pm here
[14:15] <yahn> I-am-Groot, good luck :)
[14:16] <yahn> huehue, this thread may offer you some assistance: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139632/wireless-card-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-is-not-recognized
[14:16] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: you could do it now, if your machine is annoying you by crashing frequently it's no great loss
[14:16] <k1l> Mathisen: might ask in #ubuntu-se
[14:17] <huehue> yahn: i see that, dropbox link down!
[14:17] <huehue> yahn: i find rtl8723fw.bin and rtl8723fw_B.bin copy /lib/firmware/rtlwifi
[14:18] <huehue> yahn: chmod 644 and i try
[14:18] <huehue> :-)
[14:18] <yahn> huehue, are you able to connect the machine via ethernet?
[14:18] <huehue> yahn: yes bro
[14:18] <JohK> cfhowlett: so finally (somehow /var/lib/lightdm got removed, so I could no longer get lightdm to start)
[14:18] <yahn> huehue, I would also suggest trying sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[14:18] <JohK> cfhowlett: login in with a normal account is the same as with the guestaccount, I end up with a black screen with the mouse pointer only
[14:18] <yahn> huehue, if it's not installed already
[14:19] <cfhowlett> JohK, I did that once.  ONCE.
[14:19] <huehue> yahn: install here, not work too
[14:19] <JohK> cfhowlett: hm?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> JohK, it's an easy error to mak
[14:20] <cfhowlett> make
[14:20] <JohK> cfhowlett: I didn’t remove it manually, it must have dissapeared while uninstalling/reinstalling stuff, no idea
[14:20] <anti-fascist> I have a problem
[14:21] <JohK> cfhowlett: but now I’m still stuck with the blank screen after logging in...
[14:21] <anti-fascist> Ubuntu is too good
[14:21] <cfhowlett> JohK, you're on unity ubuntu, yes?
[14:21] <JohK> cfhowlett: I guess so (whatever is default, this is a fresh install)
[14:21] <anti-fascist> It doesn't make me want to use Windows anymore
[14:22] <huehue> yahn: install linux-firmware-nonfree no go
[14:22] <cfhowlett> JohK, did you md5sum your .iso before you installed?
[14:22] <yahn> huehue, :( I'll keep looking
[14:22] <JohK> cfhowlett: had to netinstall
[14:22] <I-am-Groot> yahn, Were you able to find anything apart from me testing the ram?
[14:23] <JohK> cfhowlett: all packages freshly downloaded
[14:23] <huehue> yahn: too copy manualy rtl8723fw.bin rtl8723fw_B.bin to /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/  and no go
[14:23] <huehue> :-(
[14:23] <yahn> I-am-Groot, I was not unfortunately. My recommendation was to test the hard disk for errors as well as running the memtest
[14:24] <anabain> I need a workaround for this (apparently) insolvable problem: from the server, before shutting it down, how to tell the client that a mounted NFSv3 file share using automounter gets unmounted in order to avoid hanging. Is there anything that can be done with a script at the server before shutting down?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> JohK, that mysterious package concerns me.
[14:24] <JohK> cfhowlett: what mysterious package?
[14:24] <huehue> yahn: 0x10ec 0x8723
[14:24] <cfhowlett> lightdm
[14:25] <JohK> I can try gdm
[14:25] <I-am-Groot> yahn,  I am trying very hard to upload a picture i took of the error but ISP is just being a pain
[14:25] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[14:25] <JohK> but it’s after I tried to login
[14:25] <cfhowlett> JohK, unity doesn't use gdm!  how do you have gdm?
[14:26] <JohK> did install it with apt-get when I was figuring out what was wrong with lightdm
[14:26] <JohK> cfhowlett: hmm gdm only shows a black screen - not even a mouse
[14:26] <cfhowlett> JohK, can't even guess. sorry.
[14:27] <akik> anabain: on ubuntu 14.04 there is umountfs service which unmounts network file systems
[14:28] <JohK> cfhowlett: do you know where ubuntu puts its xsession log?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> JohK, sorry, IDK.  ask in channel. someone will have it.
[14:29] <akik> anabain: also umountnfs.sh
[14:29] <yahn> huehue, what is the output of uname -r ?
[14:29] <huehue> 3.5.0-54-generic
[14:29] <anti-fascist> Crap
[14:29] <anti-fascist> Old kernel
[14:29] <akik> anabain: i was wrong with umountfs. the correct one is umountnfs.sh
[14:29] <JohK> ah right that a user log
[14:29] <huehue> anti-fascist: 12.04.5 LTS
[14:29] <yahn> huehue, an old kernel. Can you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[14:30] <yahn> huehue, 12.04.5 should come with 3.13 I think
[14:30] <huehue> yahn: no 14.04 use 3.19
[14:30] <huehue> 12.04.5 use 3.5
[14:30] <anti-fascist> You ain't cooking with gas until you get kernel 4
[14:30] <huehue> yahn: i check
[14:30] <anti-fascist> Update to 15.10
[14:30] <k1l> huehue: 14.04 can use 3.13 or 3.19
[14:30] <huehue> anti-fascist: i can't
[14:30] <anti-fascist> Why
[14:31] <JohK> cfhowlett: “Failed to get D-Bus connection”
[14:31] <JohK> interesseting
[14:31] <huehue> anti-fascist: work machine!
[14:31] <yahn> huehue, you should use the LTS enablement stack: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[14:31] <anti-fascist> Ah see
[14:31] <huehue> yahn: i can install trusty kernel
[14:31] <huehue> yahn: :D
[14:32] <fuzzywuzzy> when did the default network interface names change in Ubuntu?
[14:32] <anti-fascist> The proletariat isn't even in control of the means of production
[14:32] <yahn> huehue, I think the rtl8723au support was enabled in kernel 3.8
[14:32] <anti-fascist> Can't even update Ubuntu
[14:32] <huehue> yahn: linux-image-generic-lts-trusty
[14:32] <bazhang> anti-fascist, wrong channel
[14:32] <yahn> huehue, sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty
[14:32] <huehue> anti-fascist: upgrade 14.04 one day!
[14:33] <huehue> yahn: synaptic ;-)
[14:33] <yahn> :)
[14:34] <enrique> hello
[14:35] <akik> fuzzywuzzy: you can use predictable network if names since systemd v197. i know at least on 15.04 they can be used
[14:35] <huehue> yahn: synaptic rules :D
[14:35] <akik> fuzzywuzzy: kernel parameter net.ifnames=1 enables it
[14:35] <huehue> yahn: installing...
[14:35] <yahn> huehue, is the LTS enablement stack doesn't work then I may have something else that does. Yeah synaptic rules :)
[14:36] <fuzzywuzzy> akik, systemd - all things that suck
[14:36] <fuzzywuzzy> =P
[14:36] <yahn> *if
[14:36] <akik> well, yes
[14:37] <huehue> yahn: rebooting..
[14:37] <akik> not all but many
[14:37] <yahn> huehue, fingers crossed
[14:37] <I-am-Groot> yahn, gordonjcp, Finally, I have been able to upload the picture of the error. http://i.imgur.com/UDfMTHk.jpg
[14:37] <fuzzywuzzy> akik, yeah, I agree but sometime change is annoying at first
[14:37] <huehue> yahn: offcourse bro! :D
[14:38] <JCT500THz> I'm trying to compile something for Ubuntu, but it won't. Keeps coming up with this error...
[14:38] <JCT500THz> playspc_gtk.c:1:0: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set
[14:39] <I-am-Groot> yahn, gordonjcp, Did the picture help?
[14:39] <JCT500THz> I opened the Terminal inside the compilation folder, used the "Make" command, and it didn't work...
[14:40] <bazhang> JCT500THz, compile what
[14:40] <JCT500THz> An SPC player that plays Super NES music.
[14:40] <JCT500THz> PlaySPC GTK.
[14:40] <bazhang> JCT500THz, installed build-essential or not
[14:40] <JCT500THz> Have I? Is that what you're asking?
[14:41] <JCT500THz> bazhang, how do I check?
[14:41] <bazhang> try to install it
[14:41] <JCT500THz> using "sudo apt-get install build-essential"?
[14:42] <bazhang> yes
[14:42] <JCT500THz> Ok.
[14:42] <anabain> akik, I'm on 15.10. Where is that .sh script? Is it part of the automounter system? In that case, shouldn't it be working automagically if I'm using autofs (with btw is what I'm doing)?
[14:43] <s4my> hi guys
[14:43] <JCT500THz> What's that app that copies and pastes commands onto a site in the terminal again?
[14:43] <bazhang> pastebinit
[14:43] <cfhowlett> !paste | JCT500THz,
[14:43] <JCT500THz> Oh.
[14:43] <JCT500THz> I think I have that.
[14:43] <s4my> i have a random ass question: what's the best practice for a laptop should i wait t'ill 30% to replug the charger or what?
[14:44] <bazhang> ##hardware s4my
[14:44] <k1l> s4my: better ask ##hardware about that hardware specific topics
[14:44] <akik> anabain: /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh. i'm not currently using nfs so i can't test it
[14:44] <JohK> hi
[14:45] <JohK> I have a porblem with 15.10: after login I have nothing but a black screen with a white mouse pointe on a fresh install
[14:45] <Audiac> HEY GUYS
[14:45] <JCT500THz> How do I use pastebinit again?
[14:45] <akik> anabain: i noticed on a systemd desktop installation that the interface is shut down before a samba mount is umounted. i don't know if this applies to your nfs mounts
[14:45] <bazhang> command | pastebinit
[14:45] <cfhowlett> JCT500THz, run your command and add this to the end :   command | pastebinit
[14:45] <JohK> this is the same for an older existing account and the guestaccount. To clairfy I get to the login screen (seeing the nvidia logo in the process), but once I login I have nothing but the black screen
[14:46] <lampsBR> Hi, I'm using ubuntu 14.04 and, after upgrading to windows 10 (dual boot) my grub2 isn't pointing to the right partition. Everytime I boot it shows me grub rescue, I change root and prefix to other partition and then it works. Can anyone show me how can I permanently change it? I tried boot-repair and grub-install, but since ubuntu is booting only in legacy mode (wasn't installed correctly), both commands complain that I'm in a gpt di
[14:46] <JCT500THz> So, like "sudo apt-get install build-essential | pastebinit"?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !grub2 | lampsBR, probably need to reinstall grub.
[14:46] <bazhang> JCT500THz, no
[14:47] <JohK> any ideas?
[14:47] <bazhang> just install build-essential thats it
[14:47] <anabain> akik, this is what prevents hanging when using samba, right?
[14:47] <k1l> JCT500THz: just copy the text in the terminal and put it onto the website paste.ubuntu.com
[14:47] <yahn> I-am-Groot, not for me it didn't. Is the laptop hot by any chance?
[14:47] <yahn> huehue, any luck?
[14:47] <JCT500THz> It says it's already been installed to the latest version, I think.
[14:47] <JCT500THz> :/
[14:47] <bazhang> JCT500THz, so then thats not the issue with your compiling
[14:47] <akik> anabain: no :(
[14:48] <JCT500THz> No...
[14:48] <lampsBR> Thanks mr bot, but I'm unable to reinstall it. It says embedding isn't possible.
[14:48] <JCT500THz> Maybe the Makefile isn't configured correctly?...
[14:48] <bazhang> JCT500THz, was there perchance a readme file with it
[14:48] <akik> anabain: only thing i came up was disabling network-manager and configure the interface in the interfaces file. then the mount is unmounted correctly
[14:48] <I-am-Groot> yahn, Yes it is hot
[14:48] <JCT500THz> Yeah...
[14:48] <KK__> I am new to KVM, installed kvm and ubuntu-vm-builder.
[14:48] <yahn> I-am-Groot, can you install the program lm-sensors and then run sensors in the terminal for me?
[14:48] <I-am-Groot> The RAM area feels hotter
[14:48] <huehue> yahn: Done! :D :D
[14:48] <KK__> My aim to to bring up a qcow2 image as vm
[14:49] <yahn> I-am-Groot, and report the temps
[14:49] <lampsBR> I tried to get help @askubuntu, but got no luck. Here's the thread: http://askubuntu.com/questions/718575/repair-grub2-after-upgrading-windows-8-1-to-10-odd-situation/718579?noredirect=1#718579
[14:49] <I-am-Groot> But the CPU vent isnt hot..it okay
[14:49] <I-am-Groot> kk
[14:49] <yahn> huehue, glad to hear it worked!
[14:49] <huehue> yahn: thanks bro
[14:49] <JCT500THz> bazhang, do you want me to read something specific out of this readme, or look for something?
[14:49] <yahn> huehue, were you asking about tellico on /r/ubuntu the other day?
[14:49] <huehue> yahn: no
[14:49] <KK__> I-am-Groot: Any help
[14:49] <I-am-Groot> yahn, What command do i type?
[14:50] <yahn> I-am-Groot, have you installed lm-sensors?
[14:50] <I-am-Groot> OOpps..sorry KK__ , I was typing kk as in Okay.
[14:50] <KK__> I-am-Groot: :-)
[14:50] <KK__> okay..
[14:50] <anabain> akik, then the approach is quite similar to this: http://serverfault.com/questions/56588/unmount-a-nfs-mount-where-the-nfs-server-has-disappeared   (user conny's answer)
[14:50] <I-am-Groot> I i did install it a while ago
[14:50] <yahn> I-am-Groot, OK. Just run sensors in the terminal then
[14:51] <KK__> i am trying to load a .qcow2 image with ubuntu-vm-build
[14:51] <KK__> looking for the right command..any help/pointers would be appreciated
[14:51] <I-am-Groot> yahn, Her u go http://paste.ubuntu.com/14438256/
[14:52] <I-am-Groot> I have four cores but it only shows info for just 2
[14:52] <yahn> I-am-Groot, seems totally fine temp-wise. Can you fire up your chrome+whatsapp setup and monitor the temps then?
[14:52] <I-am-Groot> Sure!
[14:53] <akik> anabain: does that work with just setting the ip alias?
[14:53] <yahn> :)
[14:53] <JCT500THz> bazhang, here's what the readme said. http://paste.ubuntu.com/14438265/
[14:53] <Mathisen> why dont this work with just normal grep ?? " egrep -v "^$|^#|^;" /etc/samba/smb.conf "
[14:53] <huehue> yahn: out to lunch! bye
[14:53] <yahn> huehue, ciao!
[14:53] <anabain> anabain, in that case, is there any chance to put that in a script that is executed at the client by some indication given from the server immediately before it gets shut down?
[14:54] <akik> anabain: are you running a server or desktop image installation?
[14:54] <akik> anabain: because i think you could possibly have success in using /etc/network/interfaces for the network configuration
[14:55] <anabain> akik, I haven't tried it yet. The main point is automating the solution, besides it working, of course. Actually I'm sharing files among some desktop boxes in a home LAN. No server images in use. Kubuntu 15.10, to be exact.
[14:56] <I-am-Groot> yahn, Here is the data after running 3 chrome accounts with two runing whatsappweb http://paste.ubuntu.com/14438278/
[14:56] <JCT500THz> bazhang? Are you there?
[14:56] <akik> anabain: ok so you have a systemd system
[14:56] <anabain> yes
[14:56] <anabain> is it good?
[14:57] <akik> anabain: the /etc/init.d/umountnfs.sh just went flying out of the window
[14:57] <yahn> I-am-Groot, still seems perfectly reasonable. I'd stick to the same advice as before. Overnight memtest + gnome disk extended self check just to help eliminate potential faulty hardware
[14:57] <bazhang> JCT500THz, yes, just a moment trying to check something for you
[14:57] <akik> anabain: you might find a similar service with "systemctl | grep umount"
[14:58] <I-am-Groot> okay yahn,
[14:58] <JCT500THz> bazhang, cool..
[14:58] <JCT500THz> ^_^
[14:58] <yahn> I-am-Groot, sorry I couldn't help you get it fixed tonight
[14:59] <I-am-Groot> You have already taught me how to go about testing ram in grub what abt "gnome disk extended self check"?
[14:59] <yahn> I-am-Groot, another suggestion would be to test drive 15.10 (for the newer kernel) in case there's been a regression that's affecting your hardware.
[14:59] <anabain> akik, that commands output  nothing.
[14:59] <I-am-Groot> yahn, You have helped me enough!
[14:59] <yahn> I-am-Groot, in Ubuntu there's a utility called Disks which is installed by default. You can run what's called an extended self-test to see if the hard drive is failing
[15:00] <I-am-Groot> OOkay yahn ,
[15:00] <yahn> I-am-Groot, it's really easy to do so don't stress :)
[15:00] <akik> anabain: sorry, can't help
[15:01] <JCT500THz> I really want to get the SPC player working, so I'd appreciate it if you could help me make it work!
[15:01] <I-am-Groot> Okay...One more question... What is this Regression you keep talking about?
[15:02] <yahn> I-am-Groot, as things get updated in the kernel and new versions are released, sometimes new bugs are introduced that can mess things up
[15:02] <home> Hi!How can I run the windows software on the Ubuntu？
[15:02] <akik> anabain: configuring cifs mounts with systemd was pain enough
[15:03] <yahn> home, you need to use something called Wine. Details here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine
[15:03] <I-am-Groot> Ookay...I barely update my ubuntu.The last time i updated was when i had a similar problem like this but then it was a kernel panic and updating my installation seemed to fix it
[15:03] <anabain> akik, thank you very much
[15:03] <home> Thany you very much!yahn
[15:03] <bazhang> JCT500THz, vlc can play those, you realize
[15:03] <I-am-Groot> Turned out it was a bug in that version of kernel
[15:04] <JCT500THz> bazhang, I know... But I want a separate player, and it has much better features.
[15:06] <yahn> I-am-Groot, I always update my system as the updates roll in. LTS releases of Ubuntu are generally pretty rock solid but there's always a few bugs that will slip through
[15:06] <yahn> just the nature of software development
[15:06] <I-am-Groot> Yea..thats true
[15:06] <I-am-Groot> I usually dont update my system as a result of my almost full HDD
[15:06] <JCT500THz> I'll try figuring it out by myself and if I still can't get it right, I'll come back.
[15:08] <I-am-Groot> Anyway, Thanks for the help yahn, I really appreciate it. Will report the results after running the HDD and RAM tests
[15:09] <aq2> is all this in 14.04 repos? http://dpaste.com/3DZ0A76
[15:09] <yahn> I-am-Groot, no problem and good luck!
[15:09] <I-am-Groot> Thanks
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> aq2  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:10] <aq2> why do you need that?
[15:10] <k1l> aq2: thats mintmenu? better ask the mint guys
[15:10] <bazhang> !info mintmenu
[15:10] <aq2> k1l: yes it is :D i want to know if all that is in ubuntu repos so i came here.
[15:10] <aq2> i'm planning on downloading the .deb with apt-get download
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> aq2  what brings you here, what are you doing
[15:11] <yahn> aq2, why not try it and find out?
[15:11] <aq2> i want to know how easy it is nor is not to install that on ubuntu before i try ubuntu.
[15:11] <k1l> aq2: you can search the repos here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:11] <bazhang> the bot says no
[15:11] <aq2> the menu is not there but i want to know if its dependencies are there.
[15:12] <k1l> aq2: you will need to look up every depency yourself then
[15:12] <aq2> i dont think so
[15:12] <aq2> mint also has the 14.04 repo
[15:12] <Pici> aq2: so you want us to look them up for you?
[15:12] <aq2> so all i need is some way to check what repo a package comes from.
[15:12] <aq2> yes
[15:12] <aq2> you have ubuntu i dont
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> aq2  stay polite
[15:13] <k1l> aq2: you can look at the website i just gave you
[15:13] <aq2> sorry MonkeyDust i dont know what i did wrong but i'll try :)
[15:13] <k1l> aq2: if you dont want to do that work why should we do that work for you when we dont want mintmenue at all?
[15:13] <aq2> k1l: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ what category should i select?
[15:13] <k1l> aq2: http://packages.ubuntu.com/  use the search there
[15:13] <aq2> no of course you dont need to install mintMenu :)
[15:13] <stevenm> hey what steps would I take to enable LUKS *after* having installed ubuntu (and ubuntu was installed a single gpt partition - well except for the efi/swap partitions)
[15:14] <aq2> right i needed to scroll down :D
[15:14] <aq2> but i don't want to search through them all manually
[15:14] <k1l> aq2: but why should we do that work for you?
[15:14] <aq2> i think i'll ask the mint channel because this is not as ubuntu-specific as i thought it is.
[15:14] <aq2> i just need a command to check what repo a package comes from.
[15:15] <aq2> then i could run that to all those packages.
[15:15] <aq2> automatedly
[15:15] <aq2> i think i found something http://askubuntu.com/questions/8560/how-do-i-find-out-which-repository-a-package-comes-from
[15:16] <k1l> apt-cache policy will tell you
[15:16] <aq2> thanks :)
[15:16] <chitake> hello
[15:16] <aq2> that works great now i can write a script to check them all :)
[15:17] <aq2> thank you
[15:17] <yahn> aq2, i'll bite the bullet and try to install mintmenu for you on my 14.04 install
[15:17] <aq2> hehe :D
[15:17] <yahn> and see if the dependencies are met
[15:17] <aq2> i think you need mate for that
[15:17] <aq2> or cinnamon
[15:17] <aq2> its not made for unity
[15:17] <yahn> we're about to find out
[15:18] <JohK> Has someone an idea why I’m getting a black screen after login with a fresh install?
[15:18] <k1l> ubuntu ships mate and cinnamon.
[15:18] <chitake> try noland for that it s great
[15:18] <aq2> k1l: even 14.04?
[15:18] <aq2> i thought we need a ppa for that.
[15:18] <k1l> aq2: 14.04 ships mate-desktop
[15:18] <aq2> yahn: i can send the mintMenu deb for you, do you want 32-bit or 64-bit?
[15:18] <JohK> on 15.10
[15:19] <aq2> k1l: nice :)
[15:19] <yahn> aq2, I've already got it and it fails to install
[15:19] <k1l> cinnamon was remived from ubuntu and debian at that time because the code was in really bad shape
[15:19] <aq2> yahn: can you post the error message to dpaste?
[15:19] <mika_> more people use linux than win vista!!!!!!!!!!   we win!
[15:19] <yahn> aq2, http://dpaste.com/2HK4NA9
[15:20] <yahn> trusty 64bit install
[15:20] <JohK> anyone?
[15:20] <aq2> oh well
[15:20] <aq2> we need mint.common
[15:20] <aq2> mint-common
[15:20] <yahn> aq2 there is a PPA that might work for you
[15:20] <aq2> other than that looks ok.
[15:20] <yahn> aq2, http://www.infoworld.com/article/2697444/install-mintmenu-5-5-2-in-ubuntu-14-04.html
[15:20] <aq2> yahn: my aim is to do this without one.
[15:20] <yahn> aq2, ah ok
[15:21] <mika_> mint has it's own irc channel. just not on freenode.
[15:21] <yahn> JohK, what's your hardware?
[15:21] <aq2> but no problem, i think i can download the mint-common as a deb too :D
[15:21] <aq2> mika_: yes, im on there too.
[15:21] <JohK> yahn old, asus a600 laptop with nvidia graphics
[15:21] <k1l> aq2: since mint menu is related to mint you should ask them what you need to modify to get it running on ubuntu. its their code.
[15:21] <JohK> yahn: a6000
[15:21] <aq2> k1l: thats true, i'll probably go there
[15:21] <JohK> yahn: but graphics an x seems to work fine, lightdm runs and shows the login screen
[15:21] <yahn> JohK, and then it goes black after you attempt to login?
[15:22] <JohK> yahn: yes
[15:22] <yahn> JohK, one moment, I need a beverage
[15:22] <aq2> Ok an ubuntu-specific question
[15:23] <JohK> yahn: happens for the guestaccount as well as for an existing account
[15:23] <aq2> what i don't like in mint is that it comes with too much software that i dont use so i'm planning on installing from ubuntu server
[15:23] <JCT500THz> I'm back...
[15:23] <aq2> is it difficult to get a login manager working with mate on ubuntu server? any tutorials someone can recommend?
[15:24] <yahn> JohK, doesn't the A6000 come with ATI graphics? or am I mistaken
[15:24] <JCT500THz> bazhang, if I pasted the makefile to paste.ubuntu.com, would it help?
[15:24] <k1l> aq2: install the mate-desktop and make sure it installs lightdm too
[15:24] <aq2> k1l: so mate-desktop and lightdm... do i need to configure them?
[15:24] <aq2> will i have a useless guest account?
[15:24] <aq2> configure as change settings
[15:24] <yahn> JohK, mind giving me a more specific product code?
[15:24] <k1l> aq2: no. no configuration needed since the maintainer did that already.
[15:24] <JohK> yahn: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV44M [GeForce Go 6200] (rev a1)
[15:25] <aq2> nice thanks :)
[15:25] <yahn> JohK, got it, thanks
[15:25] <mika_> yahn ~ are you using the nvidia drivers, or the open source drivers for that vid card?
[15:25] <mika_> er i mean johk
[15:25] <JohK> yahn: installed nvidia-304
[15:26] <JohK> mika_: ^
[15:26] <yahn> JohK, what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:26] <bazhang> JCT500THz, I suggested both vlc and smplayer, both which play those, that tar seems several years old
[15:26] <HackerII> nvidia 173 will prolly work best with that old card.
[15:26] <JohK> mika_: nouveau doesn’t work at all, I had to do a network install
[15:26] <mika_> oh, good. i've got heard anything good about nouveau.
[15:27] <JohK> maybe, but I think graphic is acutally working
[15:27] <JohK> I do see the nvidia logo on startup of lightdm
[15:27] <mile> Xubuntu 14.10. : only MONO sound ? Help!
[15:28] <JohK> and I do get the login screen of lightdm, the typical xserver error logs show nothing unusual and state that nvidia driver was loaded
[15:28] <JCT500THz> bazhang,  It doesn't have some of the core features  that I want that are in playspc-gtk...
[15:28] <yahn> JohK, can you try booting with 'nomodeset' added to your grub parameters please?
[15:28] <JohK> sure
[15:29] <bazhang> !14.10
[15:29] <Audiac> when you rm a file, can you get it back?
[15:29] <Audiac> or is it gone forever?
[15:29] <bazhang> mile upgrade to a supported version, that is eol
[15:29] <k1l> Audiac: its gon
[15:29] <k1l> *gone
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> mile  use 14.04 LTS or 15.10, then ask again
[15:30] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | mile read this
[15:30] <JohK> yahn: it’s booting…
[15:30] <JohK> 30s ...
[15:30] <Audiac> Hello
[15:30] <JCT500THz> I'll... I'll check back.
[15:31] <mangaka> .
[15:31] <JohK> yahn: lightdm came up, trying to login...
[15:31] <hambloaten> !upgrade
[15:32] <JohK> yahn: so as before I see the backgrop witht he ubuntu 15.10 text, and then 30s later I get to a black screen with a white mouse pointe (I cna move the mouse)
[15:32] <JohK> yahn: .xsession-errors has errors relatet to upstart
[15:33] <JohK> yahn: and OpenConnection
[15:33] <JohK> yahn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14438540/
[15:34] <yahn> JohK, testen mein deutsch ;)
[15:35] <JohK> sorry, I can switch to english if that helps… .)
[15:35] <JohK> yahn: I’m not sure if these errors are related to the issues at all
[15:35] <yahn> JohK, haha it's OK for the pastebin.
[15:36] <yahn> JohK, what is Verzeichnis in english?
[15:36] <JohK> directory
[15:37] <rexwin_> how to find what all php packages installed in my server?
[15:38] <JohK> rexwin_: dpkg --get-selections | grep php
[15:38] <k1l> rexwin_: "dpkg -l | grep php"  then the ones with "ii" at the start
[15:38] <Pod15> Is it possible to browse the contents of a vhd file in Ubuntu???
[15:38] <yahn> JohK, one moment
[15:43] <MonkeyDust> Pod15  vhd... you mean virtual harddisk?
[15:43] <Pod15> Yep, looking to browse rather than launch in virtual box etc
[15:44] <aq2> if nothing else works you can mount two disks to one vm.
[15:44] <JohK> wow
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> Pod15  VBoxManage comes to mnd
[15:44] <JohK> yahn: I just found that aptitude shows many many broken dependencies
[15:44] <MonkeyDust> mind*
[15:44] <JohK> yahn: up to now I was only using apt-get
[15:44] <yahn> JohK, are you able to pastebin for me?
[15:45] <Pod15> OK cheers monkeydust
[15:46] <yahn> JohK, and if possible run 'inxi -b' from the command line. You made need to install the package 'inxi' first
[15:46] <yahn> add the results of inxi -b to a pastebin if you can please
[15:49] <JohK> yahn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14438655/
[15:49] <JohK> yahn: can’t really copy the aptitude stuff
[15:49] <yahn> JohK, that's ok
[15:51] <yahn> JohK, I'm now wondering if something went wrong during the installation process
[15:51] <pagios> hello, i have a crackling sound on my ubuntu only windows works fine any idea?
[15:51] <JohK> yahn: dito
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: WOW
[15:52] <jatt> a crackling sound?
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: just right now the desktop came on
[15:52] <yahn> JohK, ?? what changed?
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: and it is gone again
[15:52] <JohK> yahn: I just let it sit on the black screen
[15:53] <JohK> yahn: suddenly the backdrop and the icons were on the screen, now they are gone again
[15:53] <Peyam> is it worth to upgrade to 15.10? from 14.04?
[15:53] <yahn> JohK, I'm assuming you have a hard drive activity LED on the laptop right? Flashing when the hard drive is active
[15:53] <k1l> Peyam: do you want to upgrade in 6months again to 16.04?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> Peyam  16.04 will soon be released, you can upgrade directly 14.04 > 16.04
[15:53] <yahn> JohK, could it be that due to the age of the laptop it's just taking an extremely long time to boot?
[15:53] <JohK> yahn: there is one, and it is flashing sporadically
[15:54] <Peyam> hahah you are right.. it comes one time per 2th year
[15:54] <JohK> yahn: it was on 14.04 before (I messed up and hat to reinstall), and it did not take this long to boot up
[15:54] <Peyam> yahn, wondering what's happening in linux development
[15:54] <JohK> yahn: also now it is back to the black screen
[15:54] <JohK> yahn: should I do apt-get upgrade ?
[15:54] <yahn> JohK, fair enough, and yes - it can't hurt
[15:55] <JohK> yahn: ah I did apt-get update again, now aptitude finds a solution to the dependecies...
[15:55] <yahn> Peyam, I like using LTS releases for the extra stability
[15:55] <cfhowlett> JohK, sudo apt full-upgrade might also help
[15:56] <Peyam> yahn, me too
[15:56] <yahn> cfhowlett, oh perhaps dist-upgrade?
[15:56] <yahn> or*
[15:56] <Peyam> looking for a good linux game. like CS?
[15:56] <cfhowlett> yahn, same outcome ... apt is replacing apt-get
[15:56] <JohK> wow this is the weirdest debian/ubuntu problems I had so far
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> !games | Peyam
[15:56] <yahn> cfhowlett, understood, thanks
[15:57] <MarcL> I need some good software to copress and reduce the dimension of the images too much heavy, I have tons of pictures that I still wanna hold but they take too much space in the HD
[15:57] <ishaan> hi
[15:57] <ishaan> http://pastebin.com/A7ceSb5j
[15:57] <MarcL> please advise
[15:57] <yahn> Peyam, have a look on Steam
[15:57] <ishaan> i have a problem with my sd card
[15:57] <Peyam> yahn, no I Dont use steam.
[15:57] <ishaan> it is not being detected as a sd card
[15:58] <yahn> Peyam, then you're going to be limited with your selection, it has the biggest library of linux games. Check gamingonlinux.com for reviews and suggestions
[15:58] <JohK> yahn: if this was the reason for the black screen, somehow lukcily all the packages necessary to get to the login screen must have been there…
[15:58] <yahn> JohK, is apt still processing?
[15:59] <JohK> yahn: downloading
[15:59] <yahn> JohK, no worries, keep me updated when it completes & try the reboot
[16:00] <JohK> yahn: download ist kind of slow right now, will take about 5-10 min
[16:00] <yahn> JohK, out of interest did you have to use a netinstall for 14.04 too? Or did nouveau work?
[16:00] <yahn> JohK, macht nichts :)
[16:00] <JohK> yahn: I did a netinstall for 15.10 after nouveau didn’t work with the 14.04 live cd (it showe5 columns of alt
[16:01] <ishaan> why is it that my sd card is not being detected as /dev/sdb
[16:01] <JohK> dit showed 5 columns of alternating black/white stripes
[16:01] <yahn> JohK, so how did you get 14.04 installed originally?
[16:01] <MarcL> I need some good software to copress and reduce the dimension of the images too much heavy, I have tons of pictures that I still wanna hold but they take too much space in the HD. please advise me...
[16:01] <yahn> JohK, yeah that sounds like nouveau unfortunately :(
[16:01] <JohK> yahn: though updates
[16:02] <zergut> Hello
[16:02] <JohK> yahn: I think the version I originally installed was 8.04 or so
[16:02] <zergut> what wrong could be with GRUB loader?
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> !zip | MarcL start here
[16:02] <zergut> it cant see Win8.1 and in the same time Ubuntu
[16:02] <JohK> yahn: back when I first convinced my SO that windows wasn’t an option :)
[16:02] <yahn> JohK, good man :)
[16:02] <zergut> actually i have 2 partitions of FreeDOS as well
[16:03] <zergut> so i need to use another loader?
[16:03] <yahn> MarcL, you could try a program called 'Trimage' which you can install through the software center
[16:04] <JohK> yahn: these days I’m actually more inclined to using macs… :/
[16:04] <MarcL> MonkeyDust, yahn   thanks guys I will try
[16:04] <yahn> MarcL, also, GIMP can compress images too. Guide here: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tutorial-quickie-jpeg.html
[16:05] <JohK> yahn: still have linux machines, but my daily driver just has got to work (+ some software requirements… but yeah)
[16:05] <yahn> JohK, yeah macs are nice. I always miss Ubuntu when I use them though
[16:06] <debug0x1> https://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/39166/
[16:06] <JohK> yahn: I like that my base system just works, while still being able to use cli interfaces and OSS through ports
[16:06] <debug0x1> This is a little scary.
[16:07] <cfhowlett> MarcL, you are talking about batch processing of those images??
[16:07] <JohK> yahn it is unpacking
[16:07] <k1l> debug0x1: see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2015/CVE-2015-8660.html
[16:07] <JohK> yahn: mostly libs
[16:08] <MarcL> cfhowlett, my personal images
[16:08] <JohK> yahn: btw the desktop appeared and dissappeared once more...
[16:09] <cfhowlett> MarcL, right and you want to resize many of them?
[16:09] <yahn> JohK, could this be a nvidia bug I wonder
[16:09] <MarcL> cfhowlett, correct
[16:09] <ishaan> why is my sd card being detected as mmcblk0
[16:09] <JohK> yahn: looks more like a saturation of some kind
[16:09] <ishaan> and not as /dev/sdb
[16:09] <ishaan> and how can i format it
[16:09] <cfhowlett> MarcL, then imagemagick is your best bet.  command line tool.  for example:  https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/reducing-image-sizes-in-ubuntu-studio-4175449639/
[16:10] <k1l> ishaan: that is common for removable sd cards
[16:10] <JohK> yahn: like an error that continously pops up, that doesn’t leave enough time to actually draw the desktop
[16:10] <yahn> JohK, aah I see what you mean
[16:10] <JohK> (though the load is normal)
[16:10] <MarcL> cfhowlett, is it better than trimage?
[16:10] <cfhowlett> MarcL, never used/heard of trimage
[16:11] <MarcL> cfhowlett, ok
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> !info trimage
[16:11] <JohK> MarcL: you can find tons of examples for imagemagick
[16:12] <yahn> JohK, hey I forgot to ask. Did you ever attempt to boot in recovery mode?
[16:12] <cfhowlett> MarcL, you can reduce the size, compression or both and that will reduce the memory demands
[16:12] <JohK> yahn: I tried, same thing
[16:12] <yahn> hmm
[16:12] <JohK> yahn: actually not quite sure, I think I tried recovery while lightdm was still broken
[16:13] <yahn> JohK, lots of variables for failure here
[16:13] <ishaan> ?
[16:13] <JohK> yahn: easy to vary too many variables at ones
[16:13] <JohK> once
[16:14] <JohK> man, old hardware is slow…
[16:14] <MarcL> cfhowlett, are you talking about trimage or imagemagik?
[16:14] <cfhowlett> MarcL, imagemagick.  as I said, no idea about trimage
[16:14] <jarnos> As for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack can you install lowlatency MULTIARCH DESKTOP for Trusty so that the kernel is from Wily and the graphics is from Vivid? I tried simulating installation by "apt-get -s" and linux-generic-lts-vivid is shown to be installed even if replaces it by linux-lowlatency-lts-wily.
[16:15] <MarcL> cfhowlett, ok
[16:15] <k1l> ishaan: see http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition-Mass-Storage-Definitions-Naming-HOWTO/x99.html
[16:15] <yahn> cfhowlett, MarcL I totally forgot about imagemagick
[16:15] <ishaan> k1l, ok
[16:15] <jarnos> I mean even if I have replaced linux-generic-lts-vivid by linux-lowlatency-lts-wily in the apt-get command.
[16:16] <MarcL> yahn, thanks
[16:16] <JohK> yahn: mainly fonts and libs
[16:16] <yahn> JohK, hmm mostly unrelated then
[16:16] <JohK> the pre-SSD age sucked
[16:16] <yahn> JohK, still processing?
[16:17] <JohK> yahn: yup :)
[16:18] <yahn> JohK, sorry I forgot if I already asked this. Did nouveau fail on Ubuntu 15.10 in the same way as it did on 14.04? the black and white cubes
[16:19] <JohK> yahn: I did not test the 15.10 live cd
[16:19] <JohK> yahn: didn’t want to waste another CD
[16:19] <yahn> JohK, ah ok
[16:19] <JohK> yahn: the bios offers booting from removable media, but then, just doesn’t...
[16:19] <yahn> JohK, seems like a cleaner way to attempt the installation rather than the netinstall method
[16:21] <JohK> yahn: hmm, pretty improbably that a nouveau bug concerning 10 year old hardware just got fixed beween 14.04 - to 15.10.  I didn’t like the chances of that :)
[16:21] <yahn> jarnos, I'd be very very careful mixing packages from the enablement stack.
[16:21] <yahn> JohK, yeah fair enough.
[16:22] <JohK> yahn: still setting up
[16:22] <AnimalFarmPig> Folks who are running Ubuntu in organizations that use Outlook/Exchange, what are you using to replace Outlook? I need to be able to send/accept meeting invites, see and update shared calendars, and address book functionality would be nice
[16:23] <JohK> yahn: theres two things I hate in IT, waiting for PCs is one of them...
[16:23] <jarnos> yahn, can I just install linux-lowlatency-lts-wily to my ubuntu studio 14.04 and omit the xorg stuff?
[16:23] <cfhowlett> AnimalFarmPig, thunderbird just added a decent calendar - might be worth trying
[16:24] <AnimalFarmPig> I've been happy to use Thunderbird and Evolution in the past, but this is the first place I've worked that used meeting invites and shared calendars
[16:24] <AnimalFarmPig> cfhowlett: cool, I'll take a look
[16:24] <JohK> yahn: aptitude wants to install more package
[16:25] <JohK> yahn: apt-get dist-upgrade says everything is fine...
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> AnimalFarmPig  ig guess zimba is closest to Outlook ... it's not in the repos, tho ... https://www.zimbra.com/
[16:26] <yahn> jarnos, I've never tried installing individual packages and AFAIK it's highly recommended to install the whole stack
[16:26] <yahn> jarnos, so if you do, be prepared for breakage
[16:26] <AnimalFarmPig> Thanks, MonkeyDust. I'm taking a look. It's not so much that I'm in love with Outlook, just that in order to take days off, I'm supposed to update our shared calendar. Don't want to lose that ability :) Also, meetings and stuff
[16:26] <yahn> jarnos, is there any particular reason you don't want to install the extra stuff?
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> AnimalFarmPig  or zarafa ... https://www.zarafa.com/
[16:27] <JohK> yahn, jarnos when mixing apt-pinning properly is vital
[16:27] <yahn> I've tried to avoid using apt-pinning as much as possible
[16:28] <huehue> yahn: stop black screen
[16:28] <yahn> huehue, what do you mean?
[16:28] <JohK> yahn: rebooted, still black screen after login
[16:28] <JohK> yahn: so more aptitude…
[16:28] <huehue> yahn: reboot work! Now start to use, black screen, new and old kernel
[16:28] <yahn> JohK, can you try xforcevesa as a grub argument?
[16:29] <yahn> JohK, if it still persists we can rule out the graphics side totally I think
[16:30] <yahn> huehue, so it worked once when you rebooted? Does it boot and work and then blackscreen?
[16:30] <JohK> yahn: aptitude wants to install 320MB of further packages… I’ll do that and then reboot
[16:30] <yahn> JohK, it never ends :P
[16:31] <jarnos> yahn, I would like to have the lowlatency kernel from Wily. But the rest of the pack is not available from Wily, but Vivid. And, if I install the rest of the pack, for some reason linux-generic-lts-vivid is included.
[16:32] <huehue> yahn: can not start X /etc/X11/X no exist
[16:32] <jarnos> yahn, that is according to apt-get -s
[16:33] <JohK> yahn: hmm mostly 32bit libs this time
[16:34] <jarnos> yahn, and also according to sudo apt-get. Why are generic packages included even if I have only lowlatency as an argument for apt-get?
[16:34] <yahn> jarnos, I don't know sorry
[16:34] <yahn> huehue, one moment
[16:34] <huehue> yahn:  i try  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg and say xserver-xorg not instaled!
[16:35] <yahn> huehue, can you try to install xserver-xorg-lts-trusty again please?
[16:35] <nacc> jarnos: what do you mean, you tried to install, e.g. 'linux-image-lowlatency' or 'linux-lowlatency' from wily?
[16:36] <yahn> huehue, you installed the whole stack last time right? sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty
[16:37] <huehue> yahn: yes
[16:37] <JohK> yahn black screen
[16:37] <yahn> huehue, if you attempt to reinstall xserver-xorg-lts-trusty what happens?
[16:38] <huehue> yahn: all installed
[16:38] <anonymous_> hallo
[16:38] <JohK> yahn: I reboot once more and try xforcevesa
[16:38] <yahn> JohK, yeah please
[16:38] <yahn> huehue, strange. What graphics card does the machine have?
[16:38] <anonymous_> UBUNTU GNOME 15.10 IS DA BEST!!!
[16:38] <anonymous_> MATE!
[16:38] <huehue> yahn: core i3 gpu
[16:38] <ikonia> please stop
[16:39] <yahn> huehue, can you run the full sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty command again for me
[16:39] <yahn> huehue, sorry to repeat, just want to make sure
[16:39] <huehue> yahn: all installed!!!
[16:40] <huehue> yahn: work only tty  no X
[16:41] <yahn> huehue, can you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-lts-trusty please
[16:41] <yahn> and reboot
[16:41] <JohK> yahn: same thing
[16:42] <huehue> yahn: done
[16:42] <yahn> JohK, darn
[16:42] <huehue> yahn: reboot?
[16:42] <yahn> huehue, yes please
[16:42] <yahn> JohK, might be worth sacrificing a CD
[16:42] <huehue> yahn: bro... Works :D
[16:43] <huehue> yahn: why stop?
[16:43] <JohK> yahn: why? I think we established that it isn’t the graphics?
[16:43] <Figaro`> hi!
[16:43] <psiklops> Hi
[16:43] <yahn> huehue, phew! There was a bug I found on launchpad that hasn't been fixed for 12.04
[16:44] <yahn> JohK, I agree. I'm thinking now something went wrong with the installation process. Shooting in the dark here now though
[16:44] <huehue> yahn: Muahuah
[16:44] <Figaro`> I would like to install libicu52
[16:44] <Figaro`> hi!
[16:44] <psiklops> I installed 5.04 and have a NVidia Corporation ION VGA Graphics card
[16:44] <Figaro`> I would like to install libicu52:i386
[16:44] <JohK> yahn: I think it’s compiz/unity or so
[16:44] <JohK> yahn: what other options do I have? gnome?
[16:45] <psiklops> my screen is kinda choppy
[16:45] <Figaro`> I just do not find it , how can I do ?
[16:45] <marianne_> hello, I'm running 14.04 LTS and need a compiler for C and C++ code... anyone know of one?
[16:45] <psiklops> how can i fix this ?
[16:45] <yahn> JohK, how about trying a different DE? I'd recommend something lightweight based on the age of your hardware
[16:45] <yahn> JohK, xfce, lxde
[16:45] <psiklops> Ubuntu 15.04 ^^^
[16:45] <JohK> yahn: never heard of lxde
[16:46] <Figaro`> I'm using ubuntu 15.10
[16:46] <yahn> JohK, the DE that's used for Lubuntu
[16:46] <yahn> very lightweight
[16:46] <huehue> yahn: I wating 16.04 LTS to upgrade more than 150 computers on my job! All ubuntu 12.04.5
[16:46] <huehue> :D
[16:46] <yahn> huehue, may I ask where you work?
[16:46] <huehue> yahn: education!
[16:47] <yahn> huehue, very nice! Good to see Ubuntu used in education :)
[16:47] <nacc> marianne_: gcc/g++?
[16:47] <huehue> yahn: brazil school! :-)
[16:47] <cfhowlett> huehue, beijing?
[16:47] <huehue> cfhowlett: Nope
[16:47] <yahn> JohK, if you're interested in trying lxde, the command to install it is sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[16:48] <cfhowlett> huehue, ah Brazil!  nice.
[16:48] <marianne_> nacc: not sure what you are asking? normally I work in perl or java, but this class requires c or c++
[16:48] <huehue> yahn: 19 school work ubuntu, more than 600 computers ubuntu
[16:48] <JohK> yahn: I did apt-get install lxde
[16:48] <huehue> yahn: reboot, halt, and no X problem!
[16:48] <cfhowlett> huehue, look into edubuntu
[16:48] <huehue> yahn: ;-)
[16:48] <yahn> JohK, should work. At least if it works we can see if the problem is related to the de/compiz
[16:49] <huehue> cfhowlett: much app doesnt have language pt-br
[16:49] <yahn> huehue, bom de se ouvir :)
[16:50] <nacc> marianne_: gcc and g++ are compilers for c and c++ respectively
[16:50] <huehue> cfhowlett: custom iso with some apps pt-br, maybe one day install edubuntu ;-)
[16:50] <huehue> cfhowlett: geogebra for example! :D
[16:50] <yahn> psiklops, can you run lshw -c video in the terminal and post the output to pastebin please?
[16:51] <marianne_> nacc: think I found it online, but thanks for clearing that up
[16:51] <pa> how does xdg-user-dirs-update  exactly work?
[16:51] <psiklops> yahn, ok.. one second please
[16:51] <yahn> JohK, keep me in the loop
[16:51] <LeviM> I have a 4k capable monitor from Dell (P2415Q) and I can't seem to get it to display at 4k. When using xrandr it simply says:  `xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed`
[16:52] <huehue> yahn: u know app geogebra?
[16:52] <LeviM> Using Ubuntu 15.10. Can someone point me in the right direction to start diagnosing specifics?
[16:52] <yahn> huehue, I know it's a graphing calculator but I don't know anything else about it
[16:53] <huehue> yahn: :-)
[16:53] <jarnos> yahn, now running Wily generic kernel on Trusty (that I used to run by lowlatency kernel).
[16:54] <psiklops> yahn, http://paste.debian.net/362395/
[16:54] <yahn> jarnos, good to hear that it's working but as I said before, be prepared for breakage
[16:54] <silidan> hi, im on a ubuntu 14.04 64 bit 4.2.0-22-generic with 8 Gig RAM, a gnuradio application seems to fail on a shmget() call. the error message indicates the size of the shmget() call to be gr::buffer::allocate_buffer: failed to allocate buffer of size 1179648 KB, any hints on what might be limiting here? ulimits and kernel.shmmax kernel.shmmall seem ok  to me. the corresponding source code can be found here: https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/
[16:54] <nacc> LeviM: what connector are you using to connect it?
[16:54] <jarnos> yahn, didn't install the graphics packages, though.
[16:54] <huehue> yahn: u know command to remove configs of apps no installed?
[16:54] <JohK> yahn: sure… still waiting
[16:54] <LeviM> nacc: It's a USB-C to DisplayPort.
[16:54] <yahn> huehue, I do not, sorry
[16:54] <LeviM> I've verified that the monitors work in this setup with another laptop also running 15.10.
[16:54] <ikonia> silidan: are you pulling gnuraidio from the ubuntu repo ?
[16:55] <LeviM> It's just not working on this other machine.
[16:55] <silidan> ikonia: no, used pybombs
[16:55] <ikonia> why are you not pulling it from the repo ?
[16:55] <silidan> ikonia: but last time i tested with the ubuntu one i had the same issue
[16:55] <LeviM> So it may be an issue with the adapter which isnt' needed on the other machine.
[16:55] <LeviM> Or it may be something else with driver/hardware.
[16:55] <nacc> LeviM: are you sure this machine can drive 4k?
[16:55] <yahn> psiklops, the reason it's choppy is because it's using the open source nouveau driver most likely. If you open up 'additional drivers' from the dash, does it give you any options to install the proprietary nvidia driver?
[16:55] <LeviM> nacc: Yes.
[16:55] <silidan> ikonia: gnuradio evolves quite fast
[16:55] <ikonia> silidan: why are you not pulling it from the ubuntu repos ?
[16:56] <ikonia> silidan: the ubuntu package is tested, so thats something we can work with
[16:56] <nacc> LeviM: different graphic cards between the two machines?
[16:56] <LeviM> Yes.
[16:56] <silidan> ikonia: need alot of gt stuff in it and this currently grows 3.7.2 has quite limited qt widgets in it
[16:56] <LeviM> The one that isn't working is an Intel i5-6200U.
[16:56] <JohK> LeviM: is your graphics card capable of 4k?
[16:56] <silidan> ikonia: no problem ill try it on the ubuntu version too
[16:56] <LeviM> JohK: Yes.
[16:57] <LeviM> (Or rather the associated integrated graphics with the i5-6200U)
[16:58] <twager>  HexChat: 2.10.1 ** OS: Linux 3.19.0-42-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Zorin "vivid" 10" ** CPU: 2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz ** RAM: Physical: 3.9GiB, 77.7% free ** Disk: Total: 523.7GiB, 69.7% free ** VGA: NVIDIA Corporation G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit Ethernet ** Uptime: 4h 31m 38s **
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> twager: please no specs showoff here
[16:59] <psiklops> yahn, yes 340 and 304
[16:59] <ikonia> twager: ?
[16:59] <bazhang> use the zorin support channel for that twager
[16:59] <lampsBR> Hi, does anyone knows how can I permanently change grub2's prefix and root configs? grub-install and boot-repair aren't working for me =/
[16:59] <silidan> ikonia: i just tested on the ubuntu package, exact same error message
[17:00] <yahn> psiklops, excellent. Install 340, reboot and it shouldn't be choppy anymore :)
[17:00] <ikonia> silidan: that error appears quite a few times in a few threads on the gnuradio and shinysdr apps
[17:00] <psiklops> yahn, great!! Thanx ;-)
[17:00] <JohK> yahn: wow this thing has a onboard modem
[17:00] <ikonia> silidan: the system message suggests it can't allocate the ram, some of the comments on the threads seem to suggest its the app that can't manage it,
[17:00] <JohK> yahn: (just saw wvdial scroll past… )
[17:00] <yahn> JohK, it's been a looong time since I've seen one of those
[17:00] <ikonia> silidan: based on your machine I'd say that is a fair high level comment
[17:01] <JohK> yahn good ol’ times
[17:01] <psiklops> yahn, there are TWO  340.96  drivers ... the second is nvidia-340-updates
[17:01] <silidan> ikonia: i dont understand the term "fair high level comment" pls explain
[17:01] <ikonia> silidan: your machine clearly has anough ram, so the systme being unable to allocate it seems a red herring
[17:01] <yahn> psiklops, either one will be fine. One of the drivers listed might have (tested) next to it. That would be the one that I'd use if I were you
[17:02] <JohK> yahn: lightdm now looks differently
[17:02] <silidan> ikonia: herring is always red in tomato souce
[17:02] <psiklops> yahn, thanx again ;-)
[17:02] <yahn> JohK, in what way?
[17:02] <yahn> psiklops, no problem :)
[17:02] <ikonia> silidan: based on some of the other threads I'm reading people seem to suggest this is down to the app rather than the OS
[17:02] <JohK> yahn: blueish, maybe lubuntu default?
[17:02] <silidan> ikonia: ok now i understood you perfectly
[17:02] <silidan> ikonia: so i should go back to the gnuradio people
[17:03] <yahn> JohK, yeah that's the default lubuntu theme.
[17:03] <ikonia> silidan: some others suggest that you do have to manually up the limit
[17:03] <ikonia> silidan: what's your maxshm setting ?
[17:03] <silidan> ikonia: kernel.shmmax = 18446744073692774399 and kernel.shmall = 18446744073692774399
[17:03] <ikonia> sorry it's shmmax
[17:03] <JohK> yahn: it shows something!
[17:03] <yahn> JohK, excellent :)
[17:03] <JohK> yahn: also there is an error dialog
[17:03] <ikonia> silidan: so whats that, 1GB
[17:03] <ikonia> or am I reading that wrong
[17:04] <silidan> ikonia: slightly larger ;)
[17:04] <yahn> JohK, what does the error say?
[17:04] <JohK> yahn: something along “problem with a system application”
[17:04] <ikonia> silidan: how are you verying that setting is active
[17:04] <JohK> yahn: “do you want to report it” (it’s in german)
[17:04] <JohK> reaction is extremely slow
[17:04] <silidan> ikonia: sysctl kernel.shmmax returned it
[17:05] <ikonia> silidan: check it in proc
[17:05] <yahn> JohK, ah OK. Just a generic Ubuntu error notification. You can expand that error and see what it relates to
[17:05] <JohK> no expansion
[17:05] <silidan> ikonia: do you have the correct path?
[17:05] <yahn> hmm
[17:05] <yahn> JohK, so the system is sluggish?
[17:05] <ikonia> hang on
[17:05] <ikonia> /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[17:05] <JohK> yahn: no, it does not react
[17:06] <ikonia> it should match
[17:06] <ikonia> but it's worth checking
[17:06] <silidan> ikonia yep same valie
[17:06] <JohK> yahn: I would use “sluggish” only up to reaction times of maybe 10s… :)
[17:06] <yahn> JohK, desktop displayed but can't interact with anything?
[17:06] <ikonia> silidan: ok - so from a system point of view, you have enough shared memory set
[17:06] <ikonia> silidan: therefore I would suggest checking the application, as the other people in those threads suggest
[17:06] <JohK> yahn: I can interact but it is slow, as in a click takes >10s to get through
[17:06] <ikonia> silidan: from a pure OS point, you have enough ram
[17:07] <jake__> hi
[17:07] <JohK> compiz now has 99% cpu
[17:07] <ikonia> silidan: ahhh interesting, just found something
[17:07] <ikonia> silidan: what is your shmmni set to
[17:08] <silidan> 4096
[17:08] <ikonia> set it higher
[17:08] <silidan> ikonia: how high?
[17:08] <ikonia> set it to hang on, how much did you say you had for max
[17:08] <ikonia> let me work this out
[17:08] <ikonia> ok, I see it
[17:08] <JohK> yahn
[17:08] <silidan> ikonia: you mean so the number fits in 32bit?
[17:08] <ikonia> 32000
[17:08] <ikonia> set it to that
[17:09] <JohK> yahn: back to black screen now Xorg takes 99% load
[17:09] <ikonia> (thats a bit big, but it's the right multiplier)
[17:09] <silidan> ikonia: so instead of 4096 i should use 32000 ?
[17:09] <ikonia> yes
[17:09] <ikonia> we can tone it down a bit later if this works
[17:09] <yahn> JohK, so it was running extremely slowly, compiz at 99% cpu and then suddenly blackscreens?
[17:09] <silidan> ikonia: doesnt that have ot be power of 2?
[17:10] <ikonia> basically you've got too small a handle set, so making "bigger" chunks should allow you to use more
[17:10] <ikonia> silidan: no
[17:10] <silidan> ikonia: ok ill try
[17:10] <silidan> ikonia: i guess i can do that at runtime?
[17:10] <ikonia> silidan: yes ,
[17:10] <borei> hi all
[17:10] <JohK> yahn: went back to the desktop, now its has graphical errors on top and bottom and the icon bar is somewhere in the middle
[17:10] <JohK> yahn: weird!
[17:10] <yahn> JohK, by default Lubuntu/LXDE doesn't use compiz so I'm assuming it's left over from the regular ubuntu installation
[17:10] <betsbass> hi all
[17:11] <JohK> yahn: I guess I can just uninstall ubuntu-desktop?
[17:11] <yahn> JohK, run a lshw -c video if you can while LXDE is running
[17:11] <borei> im bit confused with bridge interface setup, i have the following interfaces file
[17:11] <borei> http://pastebin.com/6txsBRpn
[17:11] <borei> but why eth0 is getting ip ?
[17:12] <JohK> yahn: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14439215/
[17:13] <borei> im running ubuntu 14.04 lts, any hints are more then welcome
[17:13] <silidan> ikonia: still same error
[17:13] <ikonia> silidan: damn
[17:13] <ikonia> silidan: confirm the change is active in proc
[17:14] <silidan> ikonia: did that
[17:14] <yahn> JohK, this is super strange.
[17:14] <ikonia> silidan: check it through with the app guys
[17:14] <ikonia> silidan: you now have a load of ram and bigger chunks
[17:14] <yahn> JohK, so on reboot now the desktop shows graphical errors?
[17:14] <JohK> yahn: na while I was still in there trying to click on the error dialog
[17:14] <JohK> yahn: I removed compiz and unity
[17:15] <JohK> yahn: rebooting now
[17:15] <silidan> ikonia: how did you calculate the value?
[17:15] <yahn> JohK, yeah I was gonna say that you could uninstall compiz but it removes unity entirely
[17:15] <ikonia> silidan: a /4 of your size + rounding that was a safe jump up from your 4k block
[17:16] <ikonia> I would have suggested 16k but wanted to be a bit over sized for safety
[17:18] <silidan> ikonia: and where did you get that info regarding gnuradio from?
[17:18] <ikonia> silidan: just looking at some threads on the wbe
[17:18] <ikonia> web
[17:18] <ikonia> tons of people with variations of it
[17:18] <JohK> yahn all kind of stuff now wants cpu time
[17:19] <JohK> yahn: apport, abiword???, gnome-shell
[17:20] <yahn> JohK, I fear we've created a frankenubuntu
[17:20] <JohK> yahn: and then tthe session fails and I’m back to the login screen
[17:21] <JohK> yahn:  dang, its a gui… gnome was selected
[17:21] <JohK> yahn: wow it reacts to user input
[17:21] <JohK> :)
[17:22] <yahn> JohK, so what DE are you in now?
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: got a report
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: lxde
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: a error occured during the installation of
[17:22] <yahn> JohK, I'm not surprised it's reporting an error based on what we've done to the install :P
[17:22] <JohK> yahn: libunity9 7.1.4+15 …
[17:22] <yahn> JohK, yeah a a leftover from the default install
[17:23] <JohK> yahn how can I get rid of thos leftovers? automremove?
[17:24] <JohK> yahn: autremove will definately get rid of quite some unity* packages
[17:24] <yahn> JohK, but aside from that, it's acting stable? reasonably responsive?
[17:25] <yahn> JohK, yeah autoremove. Honestly if I were you at this stage I would be looking at a total reinstall (just to eliminate any potential stability problems)
[17:25] <JohK> yahn: it’s quick
[17:25] <seemcfly> hey guys
[17:25] <seemcfly> whats the best antivirus scanner for linux does anyone know ??
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | seemcfly
[17:25] <seemcfly> thank you
[17:26] <seemcfly> is it able to scan mp3 files and rar files ?
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> seemcfly: rkhunter and snort are also pretty nice
[17:26] <JohK> yahn: afaik I didn’t do much aside from installing/uninstalling packages
[17:26] <lotuspsychje> seemcfly: clamav can scan your whole system no problem
[17:27] <seemcfly> what command do i use to scan a rar file?
[17:27] <JohK> yahn: it is quick
[17:27] <Skyrider> odd..
[17:27] <Skyrider> ubuntu is not making use of the latest mono 4+ version?
[17:27] <OerHeks> seemcfly, clamav has rar support, >> clamscan <name>.rar
[17:28] <seemcfly> thank you
[17:28] <OerHeks> Skyrider, nope.
[17:28] <Skyrider> How come?
[17:29] <OerHeks> Skyrider, next version, 16.04 will >> https://launchpad.net/mono
[17:29] <Skyrider> Ah, oke. Still a shame.
[17:29] <yahn> JohK, sorry, net dced
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> seemcfly: see also man clamscan for full commands manual
[17:29] <yahn> JohK, did you get my messages before?
[17:30] <Skyrider> Forced to use xamarin list.
[17:33] <JohK> yahn: no
[17:33] <yahn> JohK, so I've had a thought. Unity is quite a heavy DE and your hardware is quite old. You really should be looking at something like Lubuntu or Ubuntu Mate on hardware of that age.
[17:34] <cfhowlett> lubuntu or xubuntu for lightweight.
[17:34] <yahn> JohK, also, we might have encountered a unity bug with your hardware and the nvidia driver
[17:34] <yahn> JohK, nouveau is a no-go on 12.04 based distributions for you although it *may* work with a newer release
[17:34] <OmieWise> Hello
[17:34] <mwhahaha> hey what's the best way to prevent services from starting on install? I'm running into an issue where rabbitmq-server is starting but for some reason it's hanging because it appears there are permission issues. This is on 14.04
[17:34] <yahn> JohK, Honestly if I were you at this stage I would be looking at a total reinstall (just to eliminate any potential stability problems)
[17:34] <OmieWise> How do i expand my file system in Ubuntu MATE?
[17:34] <yahn> I think that was everything
[17:36] <yahn> cfhowlett, JohK and yeah xubuntu is another lightweight option. Lubuntu being the lightest.
[17:36] <MonkeyDust> OmieWise  you mean, your / ?
[17:37] <OmieWise> Alight then
[17:38] <OerHeks> OmieWise, use a live-iso to mess around with partitions
[17:39] <yahn> JohK, so you can sacrifice a CD, install your choice of a lightweight ubuntu spin (bearing in mind you will probably need to install the nvidia driver from a tty since nouveau fails) or keep your current install and clean/tweak as you see fit
[17:42] <JohK> yahn: times up actually
[17:42] <JohK> yahn: it has to work now, otherwise I just throw it out
[17:43] <yahn> JohK, is it still working at the moment?
[17:43] <JohK> yahn yup
[17:43] <JohK> yahn: just setting up the network printer
[17:43] <yahn> JohK, :)
[17:46] <jpio> Hello
[17:46] <seemcfly> sup
[17:46] <JohK> yahn thanks for the support
[17:47] <yahn> JohK, no problem. I'm glad you were able to get something usable in the end
[17:47] <OerHeks> !info sup
[17:47] <jpio> Why am I not able to GPA through the launcher and everytime I do I get 'GnuPG is rebuilding the trust database. This might take a few seconds.'
[17:48] <jpio> Hello? Anyone?
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> jpio  if you don't get answer here, ask in #gnupg
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> an answer*
[17:50] <jpio> MonkeyDust: Okay.
[17:55] <sanket__> bj
[17:57] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[18:02] <charlie__> hi
[18:02] <toshib> llo??
[18:03] <charlie__> hi
[18:03] <charlie__> wtf is this
[18:03] <OerHeks> charlie__, time to read the topic
[18:03] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys , i have a problem with screen brightness on my lenovo laptop here ( z500 with intel i7 3632 ) , the maximum brightness is super low on the screen , any one can help ?
[18:03] <cobra-the-joker> ubuntu 15.10
[18:03] <Chicken_Wrap> charlie__: "Official Ubuntu Support Channel".
[18:04] <Chicken_Wrap> Have you tried Xbacklight, cobra-the-joker?
[18:04] <cobra-the-joker> Chicken_Wrap: yes , no luck
[18:04] <cobra-the-joker> same for the buttons , no effect
[18:05] <charlie__> sorry, have a nice day!
[18:05] <OerHeks> cobra-the-joker, few options to try after xbacklight, i would try the xorg.conf method http://askubuntu.com/questions/476664/cannot-change-backlight-brightness-ubuntu-14-04
[18:05] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: Do you have the folder /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight?
[18:06] <cobra-the-joker> yes
[18:06] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: yes
[18:06] <pae-problem> so I seem to be having the opposite problem of everyone else with PAE - I have a laptop that has PAE support and 4GB of ram, but I don't know how to enable it
[18:06] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/max_brightness > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[18:06] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: see if that helps at all
[18:07] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: permission denied for user and root doesn;t make any effect
[18:07] <yahn> pae-problem, you shouldn't need to enable anything. What exactly is the issue?
[18:08] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: That probably means your screen just can't get very bright
[18:08] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: unfortunatly.
[18:08] <pae-problem> yahn: laptop reports 4GB ram. linux reports 3GB ram. PAE support is disabled.
[18:08] <pae-problem> "[    0.000000] Notice: NX (Execute Disable) protection cannot be enabled in hardware: non-PAE kernel!
[18:09] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: it works correctly till i touch the brightness buttons on the laptop then it never goes back to normal
[18:09] <pae-problem> I'm running an LTS.
[18:09] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: oh. I had that issue once, I just rebound my keys to use intel_backlight instead of whatever the built in method was (and a few versions later the keys magically worked again)
[18:10] <yahn> pae-problem, are you running the 32 bit or 64 bit version of Ubuntu?
[18:10] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: I never could get it to actually fix itsel
[18:10] <MiningMarsh> *itself
[18:10] <pae-problem> 32.
[18:10] <cobra-the-joker> MiningMarsh: do you remember how you fixed it
[18:11] <pae-problem> 64-bit support causes a whole dearth of issues I don't want to deal with, such as old video card support
[18:11] <Canyon> Ciao a tutti
[18:11] <MiningMarsh> cobra-the-joker: I never was able to fix it.
[18:11] <yahn> pae-problem, you may be able to enable pae manually by installing linux-generic-pae and linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:11] <yahn> pae-problem, and may I ask which LTS version you are using? 12.04 or 14.04?
[18:12] <MiningMarsh> Is ubuntu every interested in releasing an x32 version, I wonder?
[18:12] <yahn> MiningMarsh, what do you mean?
[18:12] <bazhang> did you mean i386 MiningMarsh
[18:13] <bazhang> !info skype partner
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> yahn: x32 is the newer abi, 32bit integers and memory addresses but still running in 64bit mode for all the extra registers and extensions and such.
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> meant to increase cache hits and decrease memory usage while still letting the system support more than 4gb of ram and use teh full register set
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> *the
[18:14] <pae-problem> yahn: 12.04
[18:14] <yahn> MiningMarsh, ah I see. Thanks for the info :)
[18:14] <MiningMarsh> so far the only system I am aware that offers a x32 variant is gentoo
[18:14] <yahn> pae-problem, installing those packages should resolve the issue
[18:15] <pae-problem> yahn: it appears that I did install linux-generic-pae, but it uninstalled itself
[18:15] <pae-problem> I'll give it a shot again
[18:15] <akik> "The x32 ABI was merged into the Linux kernel for the 3.4 release with support being added to the GNU C Library in version 2.16."
[18:15] <akik> didn't know of such thing but wikipedia came to the rescue
[18:17] <yahn> pae-problem, also adding forcepae -- forcepae to your grub parameters on bootup will enable it for the next session. If you reinstall 12.04 with those arguments it should be persistent.
[18:18] <yahn> pae-problem, if those packages don't work for you try booting your system with the info I provided above and see if that works instead
[18:18] <yahn> pae-problem, and if it works, a reinstall with those options may be your best bet
[18:19] <pae-problem> yahn: yeah, I put forcepae in my boot string, after that didn't work I came here
[18:20] <pae-problem> rebooting now, we'll see how this goes
[18:20] <pae-problem> thanks for your help
[18:20] <yahn> pae-problem, good luck :)
[18:24] <pae-problem> yo! that seems to have done it
[18:24] <pae-problem> le_pig: you need Pretty Eight Machine, if you haven't heard it
[18:25] <jnoob22> shaka-laka, shaka-laka
[18:25] <pae-problem> yahn: thanks much
[18:25] <yahn> pae-problem, excellent to hear. AFAIK releases after 12.04 should have PAE support enabled automaticall
[18:25] <yahn> automatically*
[18:26] <pae-problem> yeah. I intend to upgrade one of these days but for right now I'm on the road and I just needed the extra ram
[18:26] <yahn> pae-problem, no problem, glad it's working
[18:26] <pae-problem> I'm a little worried about losing my video support since my radeon is....really old
[18:27] <yahn> pae-problem, what model is it?
[18:27] <OerHeks> pae-problem, radeon 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are supported by the open driver
[18:28] <pae-problem> 3d included?
[18:28] <OerHeks> No full HW acceleration, no.
[18:28] <pae-problem> yeah. need that.
[18:28] <yahn> OerHeks, are you sure about that?
[18:28] <OerHeks> cpu runs hot on youtube :-D
[18:28] <yahn> OerHeks, I swear I've used older radeons with the open source driver and had 3d acceleration
[18:29] <pae-problem> mobility 3200
[18:29] <pae-problem> or rs780, if you prefer that
[18:29] <OerHeks> !ati
[18:31] <pae-problem> maybe when I have the money to afford to put an SSD in this laptop I can upgrade ubuntu
[18:31] <pae-problem> then again, if I can afford an ssd maybe I should just get a new laptop
[18:31] <tomreyn> yes you can get 3d acceleration on radeons using mesa
[18:31] <yahn> pae-problem, yeah seems like overkill for a laptop that old
[18:32] <pae-problem> I mean it's not an awful machine
[18:32] <yahn> the 3200 uses the r600 driver which has 3d acceleration support
[18:32] <pae-problem> athlon 64x2 4400 isn't top of the line but I am just doing presentations and music performances with 20 year old tools
[18:33] <BluesKaj> I put a ssd on my 2008 vintage HP dektop pc and it runs great, it makes a big diffeence on all apps including browsers
[18:33] <pae-problem> BluesKaj: the only difference I'm really excited for is the power savings
[18:34] <pae-problem> BluesKaj: I installed an SSD on my desktop, no noticeable difference.
[18:34] <b3543> I am looking for a program that will list network connections AND allow me to select one or more to close/kill/disconnect anyone know one?
[18:34] <compdoc> BluesKaj, its like having a newer pc
[18:34] <BluesKaj> pae, that too, haven't heard the fans running since
[18:34] <BluesKaj> pae-problem: ^
[18:34] <pae-problem> brand new platter disks are still my go-to
[18:35] <pae-problem> but on a laptop I can see an ssd being handy
[18:35] <BluesKaj> 100 bucks for a samsung evo 850 256 GB
[18:38] <marlon> Anyone from OHIO?
[18:38] <tomreyn> b3543: i don't (which doesn't mean none exists). maybe that's because this is an unusual approach. most people would rather want to prevent connections to places or from places to be established in the first place, or to kill processes.
[18:38] <MonkeyDust> marlon  what's your ubuntu question
[18:39] <Pici> marlon: If you're looking for a LUG or similar you might find someone in #ubuntu-us-oh
[18:39] <tomreyn> b3543: and then there is traffic limiting + shaping
[18:40] <Vey> Hi guys!
[18:40] <b3543> tomreyn: I used one on windows before but cant remember the name
[18:40] <Vey> I am new to Ubuntu and I hope someone can shed me some lights...
[18:40] <tomreyn> hi Vey!
[18:41] <tomreyn> !ask | Vey
[18:41] <Vey> I am currently using windows and I need to fix something which need Ubuntu
[18:41] <tomreyn> b3543: whats your use case / need in it?
[18:41] <Vey> and I follow some guide in creating Ubuntu in a usb stick
[18:41] <Vey> Hi tomreyn
[18:42] <Vey> my question is, if i create this Ubuntu usb stick... can I just boot Ubuntu from it without doing any changes to my windows?
[18:42] <compdoc> Vey, yes
[18:43] <yahn> Vey, yes, just boot the USB
[18:43] <tomreyn> pae-problem: maybe give a xubuntu 64-bit live cd / usb key a try. it might work better than expected on your system.
[18:43] <pae-problem> tomreyn: yeah, might have to do that. the true test will be steam
[18:43] <tomreyn> Vey: you may need to configure your bios to boot off the USB key, though
[18:43] <Vey> Ah...thanks compdoc and yahn...thats what I worried about lol. I dont wanna install Ubuntu and ends up I lost everything in windows XD
[18:44] <b3543> tomreyn: use case - wifi connection sometimes slows down massively, if I disconnect+reconnect it usually fixes it, I want to experiment with closing some of the connections as an alternative to see if it does the same thing but better+faster, do you see what I mean?
[18:44] <compdoc> Vey, be sure you dont click 'install'
[18:44] <yahn> Vey, I recommend Rufus on Windows to create your Ubuntu usb stick. It's bulletproof. https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[18:44] <tomreyn> pae-problem: ust try glxgears on the live cd, or maybe a small game to see whether opengl works for you
[18:44] <pae-problem> Vey: if you are installing ubuntu onto your computer from the stick, it will be very obvious and you will have the chance to stop.
[18:44] <Vey> I got no problem with bios... just Im new to Ubuntu... need Ubuntu to do something with Xbox One hdd...
[18:45] <pae-problem> tomreyn: yeah, the thing that worries me is with a really light system and an old-but-capable CPU, an old game might run smoothly even non-accelerated
[18:45] <yahn> Vey, when Ubuntu boots from the USB just select 'Try Ubuntu without installing' and you'll be golden
[18:45] <Vey> thanks a million guys! clears up everything. thanks again!
[18:46] <pae-problem> another satisfied customer
[18:47] <waza-ari> Hey all, having a question about DNS on Ubuntu. I recently changed a DNS A record which by now is known to most servers. Using dig @authoritativeServer gives the new address. /etc/resolv.conf shows 127.0.1.1 as DNS server. "dig @127.0.1.1" returns the new address. Nslookup however returns the old one (even when manually setting the server to 127.0.1.1!). Why do nslookup and dig return different results?
[18:47] <tomreyn> b3543: i'd rather start by reviewing my system logs and dmesg (and driver or hardware issues / bugs?), disable bluetooth while i don't need it (often fixes wlan issues), take a look at the traffic going in an out (i.e. am i compromised), in that order.
[18:47] <yahn> b3543, what wifi chipset are you using?
[18:48] <pae-problem> also, 127.0.1.1 and not 127.0.0.1?
[18:48] <tomreyn> pae-problem: most games won't run unless you have opengl > 1.1, and without acceleration you only get 1.1
[18:49] <waza-ari> pae-problem: related to my message? 127.0.1.1 is listet in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:49] <akik> waza-ari: 127.0.1.1 is the dnsmasq dns server
[18:50] <waza-ari> akik: yes, I know. AFAIK dnsmasq does not cache DNS entries, right? And why does nslookup, server 127.0.1.1 return a different address (the old one) compared to dig @127.0.1.1?
[18:51] <tomreyn> waza-ari: check whether you have nscd running
[18:51] <waza-ari> tomreyn: no such service and ps aux does not return a running nscd neither
[18:53] <b3543> tomreyn: yahn - no reason to think if any compromising as using a brand new install completely updated - ill try disabling bluetooth to see if it helps, network card is Intel 82577LM
[18:53] <akik> waza-ari: "dig @dns-server queried-ip +short" and "nslookup queried-ip dns-server" return different result?
[18:54] <yahn> b3543, thats your ethernet card
[18:54] <akik> waza-ari: dnsmasq reads also /etc/hosts from your host, maybe check that too(?)
[18:55] <waza-ari> akik: yes, "dig @127.0.1.1 domain.tld +short" and "nslookup domain.tld 127.0.1.1" return different results
[18:56] <waza-ari> akik: no matching entry in /etc/hosts
[18:56] <b3543> yahn: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200
[18:57] <akik> waza-ari: sorry, out of ideas
[18:57] <waza-ari> akik: both methods however return the correct result when querying the authoratative DNS server, but different result when querying 127.0.1.1
[18:57] <tomreyn> b3543: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[18:57] <pae-problem> thanks again for the help, I'm off to write some music
[18:57] <yahn> b3543, are you able to post the output of iwconfig to a pastebin please?
[18:57] <waza-ari> akik: okay, thanks anyway
[18:59] <akik> waza-ari: could it be something to do with avahi?
[18:59] <sslb> Hey guys, just installed ubuntu 14.04 server edition and I can't get my static networking up. I've edited the interfaces file to include the network interface along with the netmask, gateway, and IP address. After restarting the "networking" service, I don't get anything. netstat -nr is blank as well as the route command.
[19:00] <waza-ari> akik: hm... dunno exactly what avahi is and what is has to do with name resolution
[19:01] <akik> waza-ari: avahi provides local hostname resolution
[19:02] <akik> mdns_minimal in /etc/nsswitch.conf
[19:02] <Bashing-om> sslb: For the channel's info, is this a wired connection or WIFI you are attempting to activate ?
[19:03] <sslb> Wired
[19:03] <waza-ari> akik: /etc/nsswitch.conf contains a line: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns
[19:04] <b3543> yahn: http://pastebin.com/f4VavKb7
[19:04] <waza-ari> akik: never edited this file, should contain the default values
[19:04] <Bashing-om> sslb: No GUI on this server, correct ? Then show us what you have for the control file in a pastebin ' cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit ' . See if we can spot an error there .
[19:05] <sslb> Bashing-om: That would run fine if I was connected to the internet :)
[19:05] <sslb> I'll just type it up real quick
[19:06] <b3543> tomreyn: yes i've been through most of those before - could give it another go I guess but I wanted to check here in case there was a selective connection killer so I could experiment to see if there was any mileage in a different approach
[19:06] <Bashing-om> sslb: Yeah, not having a connection do make relaying info a bit more challenging . But, no step for a stepper .
[19:07] <sslb> http://pastebin.ca/3322341
[19:07] <Bashing-om> sslb: look'n .
[19:08] <yahn> b3543, thankyou. Is this issue present on any other devices connected to the network or is it unique to your current machine?
[19:10] <Bashing-om> sslb: Set a DNS source . For example " dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8 192.168.1.1 " .
[19:11] <sslb> I skipped that as I'm pinging an IP address vs a domain name
[19:11] <sslb> I'm testing connection by pinging 8.8.8.8
[19:11] <sslb> I also put my nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf
[19:12] <b3543> yahn: I only know about this machine - its a clean + updated install like I said and wifi works for a while but then slows down and theres nothing running in the background and if I disconnect wait for a minute then reconnect it is fine again for another hour or two, just something I wanted to troubleshoot if possible rather than leave it as is
[19:12] <Bashing-om> sslb: K. are you getting out from your machine ? can you ping your router ?
[19:12] <sslb> Bashing-om: negative
[19:14] <Bashing-om> sslb: Back then to square one, is the hardware correctly identified ' ip link ls ' ?
[19:14] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[19:14] <sslb> Bashing-om: as stated before, the route command show nothing (other than the standard headers). Yes - I am using the correct hardware logical name
[19:15] <sslb> Bashing-om: when I shut the device down, I see the lights for the network card on the server shut off
[19:16] <Bashing-om> sslb: ' ifconfig em1 ' returns an adress ( supposing ipv4 ) .
[19:16] <flappynerd> does anyone know what the timeline looks like for the next LTS release?
[19:17] <yahn> b3543, you may see an improvement with 'sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi' followed by 'sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1' in the terminal.
[19:17] <flappynerd> I know it's not usually advisable to promise releases on any given hard deadline, but, like are we looking at 3 months? 6 months? 2 years? before the 16.04 LTS release?
[19:17] <yahn> flappynerd, the current release date for 16.04 LTS is April 21
[19:17] <baizon> flappynerd: i dont understand your question
[19:17] <flappynerd> yahn, cool thanks
[19:18] <flappynerd> baizon, that's ok, yahn does :)
[19:18] <baizon> flappynerd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[19:19] <yahn> flappynerd, the 04/10 numbers attached to Ubuntu versions (eg 14.04) relate to the month of the year that they are released
[19:19] <Bashing-om> flappynerd: In all the years of ubuntu, 06.06 is the only late release .
[19:19] <yahn> 6.06 was my first Ubuntu daily driver :) good memories
[19:21] <sslb> Bashing-om: it does not, I'm only seeing a ipv6 address
[19:23] <Bashing-om> sslb: Upstart as the init system ? then what returns ' service resolvconf status ' ?
[19:23] <sslb> Bashing-om: not sure what you mean on the upstart as the init system? Resolvconf is running
[19:24] <yahn> b3543, if you find that the command above stabilises your wifi connection you can make it permanent by adding 'options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1' to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf
[19:24] <flappynerd> yahn, ahh, interesting, good to know, thanks
[19:26] <Bashing-om> sslb: 14.04 and below are upstart; 15.04 and above are now at systemd as the initiate/service control (process #1) system .
[19:28] <sslb> Bashing-om: Okay, so yes upstart is the init system.
[19:28] <Bashing-om> sslb: While I am considering, are you good in the machine locally ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' ?
[19:28] <sslb> I'm on 14.04 LTS
[19:28] <sslb> Bashing-om: I can ping localhost fine
[19:29] <sslb> Bashing-om: I'd like to mention when I installed ubuntu, I skipped the network config as it was not connected to the internet at the place I installed.
[19:31] <Bashing-om> sslb: K; moving on along .. is a driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C network ' ? in the configuation line : mine: " configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=8139too" .
[19:32] <jmacdonald> hi. is there a way to see when an apt-cache was last updatd?
[19:32] <sslb> Bashing-om: yes, driver is igb
[19:32] <Bashing-om> sslb: K on no network when installing the OS .. we should be able to bring it up .
[19:32] <marcelo-skype> server irc.undernet.org
[19:33] <bekks> jmacdonald: the last time apt/apt-get update was run.
[19:33] <sslb> Bashing-om: that's what I figured, but just thought I'd throw that in there.
[19:33] <sslb> Bashing-om: Also, on boot, the network interface does not come up
[19:35] <jmacdonald> bekks, that is perhaps the worst answer ever. but thanks.
[19:36] <bekks> jmacdonald: Why is it the worst answer?
[19:37] <Chicken_Wrap> What's so wrong with it, jmacdonald?
[19:38] <jmacdonald> I'll correct myself, it was obtuse. I'm wondering if there is a way to see the age of the cache. I am running a chef recipe that only updates the cache if the cache is more than 24 hours old.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> sslb: Still floundering about here, You are not seeing an ipv4 address ' ip addr ' at all for your identified access ?
[19:38] <jmacdonald> i'm wondering how to find the age of the cache
[19:38] <sslb> No
[19:38] <sslb> Bashing-om: this one has me beat.
[19:38] <sslb> I'm going to try using the other network card (it is on a server). Hopefully that'll work
[19:39] <sslb> nothing
[19:40] <Bashing-om> sslb: I have seen other cases where ipv4 is not activated .. but ipv6 .. I think it is but a matter to get the system to know ipv4 . Just do not recall the specifics of how to make that happen . I bet we poke at it long enough we will find out .
[19:40] <sslb> It's gotta be a driver issue or something. The server is a hp dl160g6
[19:42] <yahn> jmacdonald, check the timestamp of update-success-stamp in /var/lib/apt/periodic/
[19:42] <yahn> jmacdonald, is that what you mean?
[19:43] <jmacdonald> ohh, that is helpful. thanks
[19:43] <VFDPrim> what channel would i go to to talk about simple screen recorder
[19:44] <bekks> jmacdonald: you could implement apt-cacher-ng and configure it properly, so you wont have to worry about the age of the cache when calling apt update.
[19:45] <VFDPrim> any one know anything about simple screen recorder on ubuntu
[19:46] <campee> i'm trying to install ubuntu 14.04 on a system with a 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic SAS3008 PCI-Express Fusion-MPT SAS-3' SAS controller card and the installer won't detect it. the proper driver for this card is 'mpt3sas', which is not an option when I am given the option to select a driver. 'mpt2sas' is an option, but it can't detect any drives when I choose that option. what can I do?
[19:46] <campee> can i point it at a package or a driver somewhere?
[19:47] <campee> i can't even find mpt3sas for ubuntu anywhere
[19:48] <jmacdonald> bekks: I'm letting the cookbook take care of that, but i think my problem is actually now more chef related than ubuntu.
[19:48] <yahn> campee, what version of Ubuntu are you trying to install?
[19:48] <b3543> yahn: I ran your 2 modprobe commands, which disconnected my wifi, rebooted and now online again, is that expected behaviour from those commands??
[19:48] <jmacdonald> its a bit of a ratsnest.
[19:49] <campee> yahn: ubuntu 14.04
[19:50] <sslb> how do I make sure the network interface is started at boot?
[19:50] <yahn> campee, 14.04.3?
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> sslb  what makes you think it's not?
[19:52] <sslb> MonkeyDust: because when I reboot and run ifconfig the interface is down?
[19:52] <sslb> Sorry, that meant to be a period
[19:53] <yahn> apologies, net dced
[19:53] <b3543> VFDPrim - simple screen recorder worked ok on ubuntu when I tried it
[19:53] <yahn> b3543, I totally forgot it would dc you straight away. Sorry!
[19:54] <dougquaid> How can I download a list of ubuntu mirrors in a format (such as XML or json) that I can use a script to parse?
[19:54] <zippo^> hello, why don't negative and zoom of compiz work?
[19:54] <MonkeyDust> !mirror | dougquaid start here
[19:55] <yahn> b3543, you'l need to make the edit to /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf that I listed before to make the change permanent across reboots
[19:55] <b3543> yahn: thats ok, but it persists after reboot yes? so I am now running with different settings?
[19:55] <yahn> campee, sorry if I missed your reply. Did you say whether or not you were running 14.04.3?
[19:57] <yahn> b3543, sudo modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 should have brought your connection back up though
[19:57] <Skyrider> Is there a way to set a directory on user on multiple users?
[19:57] <Skyrider> eg, software is accessing the directory under a specific user, but so is nobody.
[19:58] <campee> yahn: sorry. i'm checking
[19:58] <campee> yahn: 14.04.3
[20:00] <theseb> Help! How reset the "OS boot manager" on a laptop to be able to boot from
[20:00] <theseb> CD-R or USB stick?....This "OS boot manager" seems to override BIOS boot order.
[20:00] <theseb> Sound familiar to anyone?
[20:00] <b3543> yahn: first command took wifi down, second back up, but it wouldn't reconnect, so I rebooted
[20:00] <yahn> campee, the reason I ask is because it appears mpt3sas support was added in the 3.16 kernel which 14.04.3 ships with. Based on what I was just reading here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1368907
[20:01] <varikonniemi> hello, i have this weird issue
[20:01] <yahn> b3543, aah I see. The command switches off wireless N support temporarily
[20:01] <Bashing-om> sslb: Srill with you . What about ' /etc/hosts ' and ' /etc/hostname ' do they exist and agree ?
[20:01] <varikonniemi> my new laptop battery is not recognised by ubuntu
[20:01] <Chicken_Wrap> wat
[20:01] <Chicken_Wrap> I think you might've bought a faulty battery.
[20:01]  * Mathisen +1
[20:02] <campee> yahn: my install of ubuntu 14.04.3 reports this version: '3.14.47-2709-1.0.PRODUCTION-gba61458-dirty'
[20:02] <varikonniemi> most known amazon vendor
[20:02] <varikonniemi> works well
[20:02] <varikonniemi> but not showing battery indicator
[20:02] <campee> yahn: although, i'm starting to wonder if that's something custom that we've installed.
[20:02] <Chicken_Wrap> Oh. So the battery works, but it's now showing up in the indicator?
[20:02] <Chicken_Wrap> Is that what you're saying?
[20:02] <varikonniemi> the indicator is not showing up
[20:02] <varikonniemi> it thinks it is on ac i presume
[20:03] <yahn> campee, that might be the problem then. It certainly doesn't sound like a conventional version to me.
[20:05] <yahn> varikonniemi, are you able to see your battery status when you enter upower -i $(upower -e | grep 'BAT') | grep -E "state|to\ full|percentage" into the terminal?
[20:05] <campee> yahn: thanks for the help, i'll look into it
[20:05] <yahn> campee, but yeah according to that bug report you should be sweet with kernel 3.16 :) good luck!
[20:07] <campee> yahn: if i'm PXE booting these systems, is it just a matter of replacing the version of the linux kernel that the systems use to PXE boot?
[20:07] <campee> yahn: i.e. the file 'linux' in my tftp dir
[20:07] <yahn> campee, I'm honestly not sure. I don't have any experience with PXE.
[20:08] <campee> yahn: ah ok. i'll give it a shot, no harm in trying. thanks :)
[20:08] <Algebr`> is it really the case that ubuntu doesn't have anything that needs libstdc++? I just had to installed it, surpised that system didn't come with it
[20:08] <varikonniemi>  yahn  that command returns nothing
[20:11] <yahn> varikonniemi, what version of Ubuntu are you running and what is your laptop make/model?
[20:11] <varikonniemi> 12.04 acer 8920
[20:11] <varikonniemi> it works fine with original battery, not this new one
[20:13] <yahn> varikonniemi, could you also try running dmesg | grep battery in the terminal and report if that displays anything?
[20:13] <varikonniemi> this seems like some kind of DRM and it astonishes ubuntu has it
[20:13] <mimmo189> ciaoo
[20:13] <yahn> varikonniemi, it certainly wouldn't be any form of DRM
[20:14] <yahn> it could just be an acpi issue
[20:14] <varikonniemi> battery is absent the second command says
[20:15] <varikonniemi> so there is some processor or id chip in the genuine one and this does not have it?
[20:16] <yahn> varikonniemi, would you be able to reboot the machine and place acpi_osi=Linux into your grub startup arguments? After 'quiet' and 'splash'
[20:17] <varikonniemi> yes
[20:18] <Lewix> yo
[20:19] <Lewix> my multiple display doesnt work. i have three screens and gnome crashes when i log in (by redirecting me to the login page)
[20:19] <Lewix> im using xfce which works great except that multiple screens is not available
[20:20] <Lewix> (a recent update might have broke it)
[20:20] <yahn> varikonniemi, I'd be curious to know if this issue persists in Windows too. I've heard stories about certain laptops blocking 3rd party batteries through the BIOS. Might be worth checking to see if your BIOS is detecting the newer battery too.
[20:20] <varikonniemi> yahn, i think i made it but nothing changedf
[20:20] <campee> yahn: actually, it looks like 14.04 doesn't come with kernel 3.16.. I downloaded http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/linux and it's reporting version 3.13.0-67-generic
[20:21] <yahn> campee, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/14.04.3/ should be the one you're looking for
[20:21] <varikonniemi> can i see the kernel parameters actually got loadeD?
[20:22] <campee> yahn: do i want the 'Netboot with HWE backport kernels' or just the regular one?
[20:22] <akik> varikonniemi: cat /proc/cmdline
[20:22] <campee> yahn: because the regular one is 3.13.0-67-generic
[20:23] <yahn> campee, yeah any of those HWE enabled iso's should work for you
[20:23] <akik> campee: 3.19.0-43 after updates
[20:23] <varikonniemi> yahn, no battery detected in windows also
[20:24] <yahn> varikonniemi, cat /proc/cmdline will show you whats running
[20:24] <yahn> varikonniemi, yeah it's definitely some kind of BIOS issue I'd say
[20:25] <campee> yahn: cool, thanks agai
[20:25] <campee> n
[20:25] <yahn> campee, no problem :)
[20:26] <yahn> varikonniemi, and I guess you could call it DRM actually. It's not related to Ubuntu though, it's the BIOS not correctly reporting the battery status to the host OS
[20:29] <varikonniemi> ok, thanks for the help
[20:30] <yahn> varikonniemi, no problem. I'd contact the seller and see if you can get a refund or replacement
[20:30] <yahn> alright gents it's been fun, time for some sleep
[20:30] <yahn> ciao
[20:40] <bshacklett> Hey, all. I'm having a bit of trouble with extending a root volume on 14.04.3
[20:41] <bshacklett> The major issue seems to be that it's contained in an extended partition. When I try to change the size of the extended partition by deleting and recreating it with fdisk, I don't have an option to start the logical volume at the same starting sector
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> bshacklett  firstly: backup before you start modifying partitions
[20:43] <bshacklett> Already did
[20:44] <bshacklett> This machine can get blown away with no real ramifications, as well
[20:44] <bshacklett> It's not in production, yet
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> ok, the you can do what you want ... my advice: create a new partition table
[20:45] <akik> bshacklett: did you select sectors instead of cylinders?
[20:46] <bshacklett> Well, I started with fdisk /dev/sda. I see three partitions. sda1 is the boot partition. sda2 is the Extended partition and sda5 is the root partition
[20:46] <bshacklett> It then has LVM on top of that.
[20:46] <bshacklett> I just deleted 5,  then 2, and tried recreating them, but the range it gives me doesn't contain the existing values.
[20:49] <bshacklett> Here's a quick gist with the steps I'm going through: https://gist.github.com/bgshacklett/1d46296e47591ebed420
[20:51] <akik> 503806-501758 is exactly 2048
[20:51] <jchinasky> Ciao a tutti ;)
[20:52] <akik> bshacklett: is this long ago that you've created the partition setup?
[20:52] <bshacklett> akik: Just a couple of days ago
[20:53] <akik> bshacklett: try "fdisk -c=dos"
[20:54] <akik> http://superuser.com/questions/352572/why-does-the-partition-start-on-sector-2048-instead-of-63/505802#505802
[20:55] <akik> bshacklett: try "fdisk -c=dos /dev/sda" that is
[20:55] <bshacklett> akik: No partitions show up when I use that command.
[20:55] <bshacklett> I get some pretty nasty warnings, too.
[20:56] <akik> bshacklett: you don't get the usual fdisk menu system?
[20:56] <bshacklett> akik: I do after the warnings.
[20:57] <bshacklett> printing the config shows no existing partitions
[20:57] <akik> weird, works for me
[20:57] <akik> i can create partitions that end on consecutive sectors
[20:59] <bshacklett> akik: I was originally thinking that the extended partition might be taking up more room for metadata due to the larger size, but creating it at the exact same size leaves me with the same result.
[20:59] <bshacklett> Does the Ubuntu installer use fdisk to write the partition layout?
[20:59] <akik> maybe try sfdisk?
[20:59] <artois> bshacklett: probably not
[20:59] <artois> there was a while there when fdisk didn't support GPT
[20:59] <artois> and it was never the best util for it anyway
[20:59] <artois> parted =)
[21:00] <bshacklett> artois: Oooh, pretty
[21:00] <akik> bshacklett: but you have the partition table listed in the gist, you can recreate it even if you can't see it
[21:00] <artois> fdisk is/was better for simple user usage
[21:00] <artois> but parted is really always better, IMO
[21:00] <bshacklett> Good to know
[21:00] <artois> for both end user usage, and programmatic usage
[21:01] <artois> plus Windows has its own fdisk, IIRC, so there's that crossover people may have liked
[21:01] <Jordan_U> bshacklett: If this isn't in production yet, you could save yourself some hassle and just convert to GPT, where there is no primary/extended/logical distinction. (Doing so will require you to add a 1 MiB BIOS Boot Partition though).
[21:03] <bshacklett> Jordan_U: I'll look into that. I'm mostly using this as a learning experience right now.
[21:10] <vilitaltti> hi
[21:11] <amr> if i want to use laptop-mode-tools should i remove pm-utils ?
[21:13] <AnimalFarmPig> Thoughts on https://ubuntugnome.org/ vs using standard ubuntu and installing gnome?
[21:15] <artois> amr: they work together, IIRC
[21:15] <artois> amr: so no
[21:15] <artois> either you want to use laptop-mode-tools or not
[21:15] <artois> they aren't mutually exclusive
[21:15] <amr> hm
[21:15] <artois> otherwise the package manager would tell you
[21:16] <amr> it hasnt complained to me about either :)
[21:16] <amr> basically im finding that laptop-mode-tools doesn't start at startup
[21:16] <amr> and im also seeing this in my syslog: [    3.303611] rc.local[2115]: /usr/sbin/laptop_mode: 198: /usr/sbin/laptop_mode: cannot create /dev/fd/1: No such device or address
[21:16] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: if you know before installation that you want vanilla GNOME 3, then you will save time choosing a vanilla GNOME 3 preconfigured installation
[21:16] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: if you don't, then it doesn't matter
[21:16] <AnimalFarmPig> I know that I prefer gnome3
[21:17] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: that's useful information to yourself =)
[21:17] <AnimalFarmPig> I normally use Debian, which gives you a choice of DE at install time. So, not really sure on the state of support / culture around Ubuntus with different DE's
[21:18] <genii> AnimalFarmPig: There are different flavours with different DE
[21:18] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: why use Ubuntu if you use Debian?
[21:18] <genii> AnimalFarmPig: Lubuntu (LXDE) Xubuntu (XFCE) Kubuntu (KDE) etc
[21:18] <AnimalFarmPig> and they're gonna be pretty standard Ubuntu using standard repos, just with everything set up with sane defaults and packages for me DE of choice?
[21:19] <AnimalFarmPig> We run all ubuntu for our servers at work, so figure I'll run ubuntu on my work laptop as well
[21:19] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: ah, not the worst reason
[21:19] <AnimalFarmPig> Been here almost a year, finally have some time to replace windows :)
[21:19] <artois> AnimalFarmPig: if you mean to duplicate your server enviros, that is
[21:20] <artois> otherwise it won't matter and you should just stick with what you're used to
[21:20] <artois> not that they differ so much, Ubuntu being based off Debian
[21:20] <AnimalFarmPig> I think most of the other devs who run linux are also running ubuntu. Figure I'll try to fit in
[21:20] <artois> fitting in is overrated :) but also not
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> yeah, I used Ubuntu for the 5.04 - 6.06 releases before going back to Debian. I'm comfortable with it from command line, just haven't run it on the desktop in a long time
[21:21] <artois> it's all the same
[21:21] <artois> even other distros, but particularly Debian & Ubuntu
[21:21] <artois> all th same software
[21:21] <artois> the*
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> Thanks for the help, gonna grab the gnome spin and give it a go
[21:21] <artois> have fun =)
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> it's the subtle differences that can get you though :)
[21:21] <AnimalFarmPig> thanks, bbl
[21:22] <artois> well, intolerance of subtle differences is... understandable
[21:26] <Bassem> how can i install program frommy harddisk
[21:27] <AnimalFarmPig> oh, the actual iso is distributed from cdimage.ubuntu.com and there's an entry in the wiki. That makes me feel a lot better. The separate ubuntugnome.org had made me feel a bit sketch out it.
[21:27] <RandomNoob> hello guys. Im trying to build Glade 3.19 on ubuntu 15.10. Getting error configure: error: xmllint not found. How to install it?
[21:27] <gambl0re> how can i delete all files while excluding certain directories
[21:28] <artois> gambl0re: find would be the very precise way
[21:28] <bekks> gambl0re: What is the issue behind that?
[21:29] <artois> gambl0re: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f
[21:29] <artois> gambl0re: find . -maxdepth 1 -type f -delete, etc.
[21:29] <artois> RandomNoob: ask apt-file
[21:29] <gambl0re> for example... rm -rf * (except dir1 and dir2)
[21:30] <Jordan_U> RandomNoob: Why are you trying to build Gade 3.19? What is your end goal?
[21:30] <Bassem> i download teamviewer_qs.tar.gz how can i install it?
[21:30] <gambl0re> hi Jordan_U, how are you?
[21:31] <Mathisen> Bassem, tar -xvf  teamviewer_qs.tar.gz   then read the instructions
[21:31] <RandomNoob>  Jordan_U: end goal is to get Glade 3.19 versio
[21:31] <RandomNoob> *n
[21:31] <gambl0re> also when i do try to copy a directory to another directory thats in the same folder using "cp dir/ dir2/"  i get cp: omitting directory ‘dir/’
[21:33] <Bassem> Mathisen, tar: teamviewer_qs.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[21:33] <Bassem> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[21:33] <Jordan_U> RandomNoob: That's not an end goal, that's one step toward an end goal.
[21:33] <Pici> gambl0re: you need to include a -r because cp is not recursive by default.
[21:34] <Mathisen> Bassem, i think its best if you do some google work and do some reading...
[21:34] <RandomNoob> Jordan_U:  Ok
[21:36] <RandomNoob> The solution for me sudo apt-get install libxml2-utils
[21:36] <amr> it seems opening the laptop after sleep and laptop-mode isn't enabled. if i do /etc/init.d/laptop-mode restart then my cpu scaling takes effect
[21:37] <amr> but would obviously prefer not to keep doing that :)
[21:37] <bekks> RandomNoob: Expected to be working.
[21:46] <bekks> Hi
[21:46] <bekks> Using squid3 - what do I have to do to allow .dmg to be downloaded?
[21:46] <Bassem> i used wget to download file but i dont know where it been saved to
[21:47] <bekks> Bassem: Into your current directory.
[21:47] <wallaby-on-mate> Hey I'm on the an Ubuntu mate live usb and the sound on here isn't working
[21:48] <Bassem> bekks, my current directory is desktop and i see nothing on it
[21:48] <bekks> Bassem: use "pwd" and "ls -lha"
[21:49] <Bassem> bekks, found it were at home directory
[21:49] <locky> What will you advice for sharing files between windows and ubuntu?
[21:49] <bekks> Bassem: Then you changed the working directory after downloading.
[21:50] <DirtyCajn2> What is the smartest way to: add a HD, Move 4 TB of data from a LVM to this new HD and then wipe/seperate the 1TB/3TB LVM HDDs?
[21:53] <forcebanana> gambl0re:  find foo -not \( -path foo/bar -prune \) -not \( -path foo/baz -prune \) -name \* -exec echo {} \;
[21:53] <locky> What will you advice for sharing files between windows and ubuntu?
[21:54] <forcebanana> that will list your intended targets; replace -exec echo {} \; with -exec rm -rf {} \; to delete
[21:55] <Pici> forcebanana: why not just use -delete?
[21:55] <akik> locky: ubuntu can read&write ntfs
[21:56] <Pici> locky: when dual booting? or across a network?
[21:56] <akik> locky: and windows can read ext3/4 with ext2fsd
[21:56] <zerowaitstate> can someone tell me why ls shows a group write permission on a file which uses a POSIX ACL? shell output is here: http://pastebin.com/D10C0xWv
[21:56] <locky> across network
[21:56] <forcebanana> Pici: -delete automatically enables -depth and -prune gets turned off when -depth is on :-)
[21:56] <Pici> locky: samba is probably your best bet.
[21:56] <Pici> forcebanana: ah, good to know.
[21:56] <OneM_Industries> Hey, my machine has a LPT header on the motherboard, and I am wondering how to test if it is accessible via Ubuntu?
[21:56] <locky> ok thanks Pici
[21:58] <OneM_Industries> So, I am wondering how to test if Ubuntu can see the hardware device/driver for the LPT header.
[21:58] <forcebanana> Pici: i got into the habit of not using -delete a while ago… way too easy to do damage when in a hurry. typing -exec makes me think “hey, i should echo my output here to test what i’m about to do” ;-)
[21:58] <Pici> forcebanana: -exec also has some problem with whitespace and whatnot though.  I tend to tell other people to use -print0 and xargs, although I don't often follow that advice myself.
[21:59] <forcebanana> yep
[21:59] <forcebanana> <3 xargs
[21:59] <geirha> -exec has no problem with whitespace
[21:59] <akik> Pici: it was after maybe 15 years that i got to know -print0 and xargs -0. just to think how many scripts i've hosed
[22:03] <geirha> In #bash we tend to give the opposite advice. Use -exec rather than xargs
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> akik  i know what xargs does, but what's xargs -0 ?
[22:04] <forcebanana> xargs -0 takes the output of -print0
[22:04] <forcebanana> as input
[22:04] <Pici> MonkeyDust: find -print0 combined with xargs -0 uses nulls to delimit each record
[22:04] <geirha> It's the only safe way to handle filenames with xargs. By using NUL (\0) as delimiter
[22:04] <forcebanana> what Pici said :-)
[22:04] <akik> back in the day people didn't put spaces in file names
[22:04] <forcebanana> and geirha
[22:05] <geirha> though xargs -0 is not standard, so should be avoided for portable scripts
[22:05] <forcebanana> akik: exactly
[22:06] <Pici> geirha: hm, for some reason I thought that using -exec could mangle spaces, but perhaps I was mistaken.
[22:07] <d3rp> Hi there
[22:07] <d3rp> can someone help me with a makefile?
[22:08] <AndroUser> Good morning
[22:09] <d3rp> yo
[22:10] <forcebanana> Pici: all I know is that replacing -exec rm -rf {} \; with print0 | xargs -0 rm -rf in the previous command would have disastrous results, so I can deal with improper handling of whitespace in -exec ;-)
[22:10] <forcebanana> -print0 even*
[22:11] <d3rp> really any time rm -rf is followed by a blank
[22:11] <geirha> Pici: one likely case is you saw code like  -exec bash -c ' ... {} ... ' \;
[22:12] <geirha> that fails because it tells find to *inject* the filename into the script, but find will not sanitize it for you.
[22:12] <Pici> geirha: I probably got confused while needing to do something more complex with xargs
[22:12] <geirha> The correct way is doing -exec bash -c ' ... "$1" ... ' bash {} \;  instead
[22:12] <geirha> or -exec bash -c ' ... "$@" ... ' bash {} +
[22:12]  * Pici wonders why he left #bash
[22:13] <blurkis> does canonical have a legal@ email for legal questions?
[22:13]  * Mathisen feels confused
[22:13] <Pici> blurkis: I believe so.. let me see if I can dig it up.
[22:14] <blurkis> pici thanks. :)
[22:14] <forcebanana> anyone here know firewalld fairly well?
[22:14] <k1l> blurkis: yes they have. ah Pici was faster
[22:14] <Pici> blurkis: http://www.ubuntu.com/legal/terms-and-policies/terms includes a contact-us with legal@canonical.com in it
[22:15] <Pici> blurkis: If you don't get an answer, come back and poke us here, we might be able to track down a canonical employee on irc to get your question looked at.
[22:15] <d3rp> anyone know how to build depends from a .make file?
[22:16] <d3rp> or at least make a more detailed .log from said .make file that failed without telling you why?
[22:17] <forcebanana> i’m trying to add multiple rich rules to accept traffic only on certain ports and from certain sources (i’ve got that bit sorted), and now i need rules to accept all other ingress tcp traffic for the remaining nodes in the same subnet… never done that before. docs are (as always) vague and confusing
[22:17] <d3rp> no idea
[22:21] <Nikola_Tesla> hi guys . when i try to watch this link http://startv.com.tr/canli-yayin
[22:21] <Nikola_Tesla> format is not supporting
[22:21] <Nikola_Tesla> what i have to install ?
[22:22] <Nikola_Tesla> help?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> Nikola_Tesla  it's an mp4 ... i guess you should just install restricted extras
[22:23] <PHroGman> ubuntu 14.04 xchat tells me its downloaded a file to home/.xchat/download. Yet I cant find this directory on file browser
[22:23] <genii> Yep
[22:23] <Nikola_Tesla> how can i install ?
[22:24] <genii> PHroGman: Because it begins with a dot ( . ) file browser hides it by default
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> Nikola_Tesla  sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:25] <Nikola_Tesla> ty bro i am new user :)
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> Nikola_Tesla  glad i could help
[22:27] <PHroGman> how do you unhide the folder?
[22:27] <xangua> PHroGman: control+h
[22:28] <vilitaltti> press cntrl+h to see hided files
[22:28] <Sebastien> hi
[22:28] <vilitaltti> hi
[22:29] <PHroGman> thank you
[22:29] <Sebastien> so i installed oidentd to hide the darn ~ in my ident, but i still can't manage to get rid of it. Did i miss anything? sudo apt-get install oidentd; /etc/init.d/oidentd start
[22:30] <blurkis> Pici, mail sent.  And thanks for the quick help.
[22:30] <Jordan_U> Sebastien: Did you forward the appropriate port to your machine that's running oidentd?
[22:32] <borgster_> hi
[22:32] <borgster_> Microsoft MicroBloat [TM] - Fight your irritable bowel syndrome with Microsoft MicroBloat [TM]
[22:33] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am looking at getting this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125778 Does anyone know if it works (And works well) with Ubuntu?
[22:33] <OneM_Industries> !offtopic | borgster_
[22:34] <borgster_> OneM_Industries: we all know how supportive nvidia is on nix systems
[22:35] <borgster_> I'd go with a amd ati
[22:36] <k1l> someone blaming nvidia just had not tried to run an amd card :/
[22:36] <OneM_Industries> Er..from what I have heard, the opposite is true. I though that AMD doesn't work well with Ubuntu, and nvidia did.
[22:36] <borgster_> k1l: I've run both
[22:36] <borgster_> OneM_Industries: I have had good experiences out of the box with amd; nvidia was such a pain getting sorted
[22:37] <cristian_> ciao
[22:37] <OneM_Industries> Hunh.
[22:37] <cristian_> !list
[22:37] <borgster_> eventually I did get the right drivers but its flaky
[22:40] <Sebastien> Jordan_U what port would that bt, because i don think i did
[22:40] <Sebastien> bt/ be *
[22:42] <Guest21140> hello there, does anybody know a way to quickly check what version of ubuntu we have via the command line?
[22:42] <Sebastien> i opened 113 i think thats it
[22:42] <Sebastien> Guest21140 uname -a
[22:42] <Sebastien> i think
[22:43] <genii> Guest21140: cat /etc/issue
[22:43] <k1l> Guest21140: "lsb_release -d"
[22:43] <Sebastien> lol
[22:43] <Sebastien> Joins: pisg (ubuntu@imjustabot.tk)
[22:43] <Sebastien> yay \o/
[22:43] <Sebastien> it worked, thanks Jordan_U
[22:43] <Guest21140> ah, awesome
[22:43] <Guest21140> ty
[22:43] <Guest21140> 15.10 is the latest right?
[22:43] <k1l> yep
[22:44] <Guest21140> awesome the type of linux i am using is linux lubuntu 4.2.0.16.generic?
[22:44] <Guest21140> God bless the open source people
[22:48] <marus> if i want to update an ubuntu 14.04, just backup homedirectory and new install the new version is enough?
[22:48] <waza-ari> Guest21140: You are using Lubuntu, which basically is a flavor of Ubuntu using the lightweight desktop "lxde". There are other desktop environment out there, such as Unity (would be just Ubuntu), KDE (would be Kubuntu) or others. "4.2.0.16.generic" refers to the kernel version
[22:49] <marus> it's desktop version
[22:50] <Guest21140> ty
[22:53] <xangua> marus: update 14.04 to what? It still has support and 16.04 isn't out yet
[22:54] <marus> xangua: right, but i run into some issue with drivers, and i want new install
[22:55] <xangua> marus: so you want to reinstall then...also wouldn't be better if you stated your Actual Problem with the drivers
[22:56] <marus> xangua: it's not a Problem, but i want just new stuff, like new kernel ...
[22:56] <marus> if i run new kernel with 14.04 usb and Wifi doesnt work
[22:56] <marus> so my only Problem is backup now xD
[22:57] <nicomachus> marus: those things are much likely to work on LTS than on a newer kernel
[22:57] <xangua> marus: I'm confused you want to install something new, but you are having problems with a new kernel?
[22:57] <nicomachus> much more likely**
[23:00] <marus> yes it's also true indeed, i've just tryed 4.2.0-19 in 14.04 after that i check that i wont work
[23:00] <marus> and i have change lot of thing on my desktop, so i tought it's time for new install
[23:01] <xangua> marus: so your Wi-Fi works with the kernel provided in 14.04
[23:02] <marus> xangua: everything is working in my 14.04
[23:03] <marus> and i thing it will work also with 15.10
[23:04] <waza-ari> marus: then try if you want. But honestly, if everything is working now, wait for the next LTS
[23:04] <marus> April 21st
[23:04] <egonsen> hi! i am using ubuntu 15.10. sometimes during boot, the system hangs and nothing happens from then on. here is a photo of that situation, taken with my mobile phone (making screenshots is not possible during boot, right?): http://www.directupload.net/file/d/4228/lso94qu3_jpg.htm - how can i debug that went wrong here?
[23:05] <marus> if the next LTS is out, what is the best way to new install? only backup home folder?
[23:05] <k1l> marus: you can upgrade and dont need to install new
[23:05] <waza-ari> I upgraded to 15.10 myself and most of the stuff worked right away. Actually I'd simply upgrade and not do a new install
[23:06] <rypervenche> Backups are always a good thing to make beforehand regardless.
[23:06] <waza-ari> True.
[23:06] <k1l> marus: your personal data is in /home. most user settings are there too. system settings are most stored in /etc
[23:06] <k1l> !bakcups | marus
[23:06] <k1l> !backups | marus
[23:07] <marus> waza-ari: some time you have to new install ;-)
[23:10] <waza-ari> marus: think it depends :) one workstation started at 10.04 and survived all upgrades up to 15.04. No upgrade to 15.10 however, yet. Still pending for spare time...
[23:13] <waza-ari> but b2t: this answer (http://askubuntu.com/a/99151/384035) provides a good overview on what and how to backup and how to restore. I'd add /etc, however.
[23:17] <anabain> I need a workaround for this (apparently) insolvable problem: from the server, before shutting it down, how to tell the client that a mounted NFSv3 file share using automounter gets unmounted in order to avoid client system hanging. Is there anything that can be done with a script o whatever at the server before shutting down? Here is something that could be used as a start point:  http://serverfault.com/questions/56588/unmount-a-nfs-moun
[23:17] <anabain> t-where-the-nfs-server-has-disappeared   (user conny's answer). Then, one possible solution would be putting these commands in a script that somehow (here's where you come, hopefully) is triggered by the server before it is shut down. Any ideas? (I'm using Kubuntu 15.10 on all machines, so systemd is running)
[23:17] <marus> waza-ari: i would do it ;-) thanks you so much
[23:22] <bekks> anabain: Unmount it manually.
[23:23] <nchambers> is there an ubuntu for the i686 architecture?
[23:23] <k1l> nchambers: its the standard 32bit one.
[23:23] <nchambers> k1l, thanks
[23:23] <OneM_Industries> Hey, my machine has a LPT header on the motherboard, and I am wondering how to test if it is accessible via Ubuntu?
[23:23] <OneM_Industries> So, I am wondering how to test if Ubuntu can see the hardware device/driver for the LPT header.
[23:24] <studdentt> connect some resistors and leds to the port
[23:24] <studdentt> then write a c program to turn them on/off
[23:24] <OneM_Industries> Ok. Not sure how to do that.
[23:24] <anabain> bekks, are you saying it's *impossible* to do it automatically?
[23:25] <OneM_Industries> First, I would like to test if it even works.
[23:26] <waza-ari> OneM_Industries: http://eagerfish.eu/lpt-programming-example-in-c-for-ubuntu-linux/
[23:30] <GreekFreak> Hi all. I was running 14.04 LTS. Today I ran $do-release-upgrade -d and I assumed it would install 14.10 so that I can slowly upgrade to 15.10. I found myself with 16.04 and with only terminal. How do I install 15.10 with GUI?
[23:31] <k1l> GreekFreak: dont run commands that you dont know what they do. the -d switch made the installer look for the next developer release. which is 16.04 now.
[23:32] <k1l> GreekFreak: since you cant downgrade ubuntu releases you need to reinstall a 14.04 or a 15.10. boot up a live ubuntu version to backup your personal data if you didnt do that before the upgrade
[23:35] <GreekFreak> k1l: none of my data is on that partition so they're safe. Is there no way I can "activate" the GUI on the 16.10 and wait for the world to "catch up"?
[23:37] <k1l> you mean 16.04. since that is still in development and changing a lot that could happen more often so i suggest begginers, who cant help themselves to sort that, not to use that version.
[23:37] <k1l> support for the development releases is in #ubuntu+1 . but most people expect the development users to fix basic stuff themselves.
[23:39] <MooseGuts> The xubuntu installer doesn't seem to like my chromebook's mmc type hd.
[23:40] <GreekFreak> k1l: understood. thank you. looks like I'll need to go through all my folders and make sure I don't lose anything *sigh*
[23:40] <GreekFreak> you live and learn lol
[23:40] <gordonjcp> GreekFreak: just copy the contents of /home/ to another drive, and wipe and reinstall
[23:40] <gordonjcp> no biggie
[23:41] <Xeno`> hey guys… havent installed ubuntu in a handful of years. I have an iMac with a 120gb windows partition that I’m trying to replace with Ubuntu. It didn’t detect windows, so I have to use “Something Else” to choose the partition
[23:41] <Xeno`> I found the appropriate windows partition but my question is abound the boot loader — where should I put that?
[23:41] <GreekFreak> gordonjcp: thanks.
[23:42] <Xeno`> it defaults to the mac boot partition, but I dont want to override that, right?
[23:42] <Xeno`> *overwrite
[23:43] <MooseGuts> Why would xubuntu's installer be fussing about my mmcblk0rpmb when that isn't even the target of the installer. mmcblk0 is.
[23:43] <MooseGuts> Two totally different devices on the computer.
[23:49] <Caplain> ran service postgresql stop but netstat -anutp | grep 5432 shows it's still running. i kill that and another pops up. wtf
[23:50] <MooseGuts> killall postgresql?
[23:51] <MooseGuts> Would be nice if someone would resond to me as to why the installer won't let me install...
[23:52] <Caplain> MooseGuts, yeah and the process starts right back up again
[23:53] <MooseGuts> I have a similar problem with pulseaudio resurrecting itself too.
[23:53] <bekks> Caplain: stop the service, dont kill it.
[23:53] <MooseGuts> bekks: He tried.
[23:54] <Caplain> bekks, service postgresql stop
[23:55] <Caplain> bekks, did that too
[23:55] <Caplain> these are the moments in which i go back to gentoo :/
[23:57] <k1l> Caplain: so something is restarting postgresql? like a webserver or something?
[23:58] <Caplain> k1l, that's my guess. i installed chef but that service won't even start. not without postgres working properly which it isn't and i can't restart it and...this is why we drink, right?
[23:59] <Caplain> root      1067  0.0  0.0   4216   640 ?        Ss   18:39   0:00 runsv postgresql
[23:59] <Caplain> odd, that should have been terminated when i stopped the service, right?