[00:00] <bekks> Caplain: thats a runsv instance.
[00:00] <bekks> Is there a postgresql instance running?
[00:00] <Caplain> bekks, again, with the obvious :/
[00:00] <Caplain> bekks, yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:00] <Caplain> there is!!!!!!!!!!
[00:00] <Caplain> and i can't make it stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[00:01] <Caplain> i kill it
[00:01] <bekks> Caplain: Stop that ! repeating nonsense.
[00:01] <Caplain> and it comes right back up, like pleb ignorance
[00:01] <Caplain> bekks, tell that to my postgres server...
[00:01] <bekks> Caplain: I am telling it to you, since your postgresql server isnt ircing in here.
[00:02] <Caplain> i appreciate your help
[00:02] <Caplain> but i cant kill the server at all
[00:02] <Caplain> something keeps restarting it
[00:02] <Caplain> a wrapper script or something
[00:08] <sebsebseb> hi
[00:08] <Caplain> ah, seems like chef was interfering
[00:08] <Sebastien> hi
[00:08] <Caplain> removing postgres seems to have done the trixie
[00:09] <snikipaul> lD
[00:09] <snikipaul> hi
[00:10] <snikipaul> can you find
[00:10] <snikipaul> ?
[00:16] <rsaw6002> Is anyone else having certificate verification failures when using apt-get today?
[00:19] <Bashing-om> rsaw6002: None that I have seen reported .
[00:20] <sebsebseb> Sebastien: hi that's my name, but with an a at the end not e :d
[00:21] <sebsebseb> WOW this channel seems rather unactive right now, but I suppouse it's the weekend
[00:21] <[Mew2]> Lurkin folks in here
[00:21] <Bashing-om> !support | sebsebseb
[00:21] <sebsebseb> yes many of those, but not much actsual actiivty
[00:22] <sebsebseb> Bashing-om: yep  and I am here to help a few people out for a bit, if there are :)
[00:23] <Bashing-om> sebsebseb: You can have the next one up .
[00:23] <sebsebseb> well depends on the issue as well really :d we'll see
[00:25] <danyy> hi
[00:26] <sebsebseb> danyy: hi
[00:27] <[Mew2]> What's the best web gui to monitor Ubuntu from?
[00:27] <bekks> [Mew2]: "best" is based on your personal preferences.
[00:28] <[Mew2]> Mainly to monitor ip incoming and outgoing connections
[00:28] <bekks> [Mew2]: monitor your switches instead. Investigate your log files.
[00:29] <[Mew2]> Is there a good app to do this remotely via gui
[00:29] <[Mew2]> I set up nagio but there's not much info in it
[00:30] <[Mew2]> I want to see system load, running processes, coy usage for each process etc..
[00:30] <[Mew2]> Cpu*
[00:32] <CoreShip13> This channel is a redundancy
[00:36] <Algebr`> htop over web UI?
[00:36] <OneM_Industries> DreadedDream: What do you mean?
[00:37] <DreadedDream> I honestly don't know just seeing if anyone would reply
[00:38] <Molar_Mass> Hi,
[00:38] <bekks> DreadedDream: do you have specific ubuntu support question?
[00:39] <DreadedDream> nope been messing around with irc chat had ubuntu for quite some time just channel hopping
[00:40] <gordonjcp> DreadedDream: probaby #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better choice for that then
[00:40] <Molar_Mass> I was trying to fix a minor issue with an ubuntu desktop plugged into a TV related to resolution, and one thing I tried was using a cheap nvidia card to test if that was the problem.  It wasn't, so I removed it (to force the computer to use integrated gfx). Now I just get low-graphics mode.  I've tried several forum solutions like X -configure, but I can't get it to work. Am I missing something?
[00:43] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Graphics driver not loaded ? What returns - in a pastebin please - from terminal command ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[00:43] <[Mew2]> Thanks guys
[00:45] <Molar_Mass> I would have to use something like w3m or lynx to pastebin it, so I'll just summarize it (one line): *-display product: 82G33/G31 Intel Corp phys id 2 config: driver = i915
[00:45] <m000gle> Would it be possible for someone to help troubleshoot a performance issue affecting the Unity desktop environment on my current, and up-to-date, installation of Ubuntu 15.10?
[00:45] <m000gle> I am running an Inter Core i7-2700K @ 3.5GHz, with dual nVidia GTX 760 GPU's and 16GB of RAM; so, while this isn't top of the line, I also doubt that insufficient resources is lthe issue.  Both the graphics cards and monitors are 60Hz capable at the (native) resolution in use.
[00:45] <m000gle> Whenever I change window focus by clicking on another/new window, there is a noticable stutter or frame drop.  This isn't a huge deal when moving between windows with relatively static content, but it is particularly noticable when simultaneously watching even a low resolution video and working in other windows.
[00:47] <Molar_Mass> The reason I'd need to use lynx (which I only have basic knowledge of) is because I only have the tty (ctrl-alt-F2) interface right now
[00:48] <bekks> !pastebinit | Molar_Mass
[00:49] <Molar_Mass> that sounds REALLY cool; I'll try it now
[00:50] <Molar_Mass> ok: here's the output of the lshw command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14442706
[00:51] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: look'n .
[00:53] <Molar_Mass> no matter what I seem to do (nvidia-* purge, edititing xorg.conf), the xorg.conf seems to always reset to include nvidia; even though I removed the card already and the integrated gpu is intel
[00:54] <bekks> Molar_Mass: You arent using an nvidia card.
[00:54] <bekks> Molar_Mass: you are using an i915 intel card.
[00:54] <Molar_Mass> I used an nvidia gt 530 it for half an hour to try to diagnose a problem with resolution
[00:54] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Well, the graphics is Intel - Intel just generally works - and the driver is loaded . I recon the next thing is to look and read what X is doing ; post ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' .
[00:55] <Molar_Mass> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14442798
[00:57] <Xeno`> ubuntu 15 on a mac… I’m replacing my windows partition. does the bootloader just go in the default selected partition that ubuntu found? is efi vs bios still an issue?
[00:57] <Xeno`> I just want to give ubuntu a chance :)
[00:57] <bekks> Xeno`: which ubuntu 15?
[00:57] <Xeno`> desktop
[00:58] <bekks> there is 15.04 and 15.10 - which ubuntu are you using?
[00:58] <Xeno`> ah… 15.10
[00:58] <Molar_Mass> the 15 refers to the year (2015) and the .10 refers to the month (10th, or October)
[00:59] <Xeno`> ah ok
[01:00] <Xeno`> should I aim for a pure efi install? or is that still complicated? the howtos I’m finding are from 2012
[01:00] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Ouch ! " 32.125] (EE) no screens found(EE) " ... check the cable, bent pins , correct output port to the correct monitor .
[01:01] <Molar_Mass> it's showing the tty correctly on the (non-TV) monitor it's plugged into
[01:01] <Molar_Mass> could it be that the screen in xorg.conf is named "nvidia"
[01:04] <Molar_Mass> here's my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14442951
[01:05] <Geo> Hi, I inserted a USB drive into my ubuntu box. I see in dmesg that it detects it; but I don't see it mounted anywhere (/mnt or /media). What are my next step to finding it?
[01:05] <Geo> (its a flash drive, not a hard drive)
[01:06] <bekks> Geo: Mount it, manually.
[01:06] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Move that xorg file ... as Intel does no use it . reboot and see now what we have .
[01:06] <Geo> bekks: I don't see anything to mount.
[01:06] <bekks> Geo: Then how do you look for something to mount?
[01:07] <Geo> I suppose thats why I'm here
[01:07] <sebsebseb> Geo: hi
[01:07] <sebsebseb> Geo: maybe I can help you a bit, well let's try :d
[01:07] <sebsebseb> Geo: was the flash drive used in Windows recently?  if so also was it just taken out there, not unmounted?
[01:08] <Geo> sebsebseb: no
[01:08] <sebsebseb> is it just a standard FAT file sytem on there, or anyting else such as NTFS,  if you don't know, probably just the standard FAT
[01:08] <Geo> but beyond that though- I don't see any /dev device assigned to it
[01:08] <Geo> but it does detect the connection
[01:08] <Xeno`> is there a chance of overwriting my mac boot loader if I just use default “something else” install settings for ubuntu?
[01:09] <Geo> usb 3-1.2: new full-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd
[01:09] <Geo> etc etc
[01:09] <Geo> but no /dev path in dmesg
[01:09] <Molar_Mass> FIXED
[01:09] <Molar_Mass> thanks!
[01:09] <sebsebseb> Xeno`: I haven't insatlled on a Mac, but  on a PC sure many times. the something else option in the insatller is so you can set up your own partitons
[01:09] <Molar_Mass> now, I have to solve the original problem: how to prevent the TV from switching to a res it's not compatible with
[01:10] <Xeno`> sebsebseb: yeah, it doesnt detect OSX or Win7 on its own partition
[01:10] <sebsebseb> Xeno`: I would have thought that using the default options in the insatler though, may not set up what you want on a Mac really, but that's a guess, as I said I haven't installed on a Mac
[01:10] <Xeno`> I want to just overwrite windows with ubuntu, but the boot loader install location is making me nervous
[01:10] <Xeno`> the partition it wants to installe the boot loader on literally says “mac” in the title...
[01:11] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Now that is something I have no experience with . But, is there a setting on the TV for a digital input ?
[01:11] <sebsebseb> Xeno`: Macs need some differnet configuration from a PC to I think for most Linux distro's,  I remember there being something a bit differnet,  you can probably find some info on the net.  I hae partitoned many times on a PC, but I think Macs will still a bit differnet for putting Linux on, but I don't know much about that
[01:11] <Xeno`> k
[01:11] <sebsebseb> !mAC
[01:12] <Xeno`> I’ve seen a bit of info about emulating bios, and avoidng that to do a pure EFI boot
[01:12] <sebsebseb> Xeno`: OK that should helpl whatever that is
[01:12] <Xeno`> sweet
[01:12] <Xeno`> thank you
[01:12] <Molar_Mass> the TV only takes either 1366x768, and sometimes the output res of the computer will suddenly switch to something different, so I have to plug in a spare monitor to fix it
[01:12] <sebsebseb> Xeno`: your welcome and good luck
[01:13] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Sorry, out of my experience range . Others will have to advise here .
[01:13] <Molar_Mass> thank you for fixing the nvidia/intel problem!
[01:16] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: NP .. that was easy ... hope the TV resolution is a simple .
[01:16] <Bashing-om> as/a*
[01:17] <Molar_Mass> So, my main question right now is this: is it possible to permanently lock the output resolution to one value (so that the TV never shows 'not compatible with this signal')?  This would include the login screen, which for some reason is never 1366x768, so I have to log in blindly
[01:17] <senaps> is there any scheduler to run and controlled in ubuntu time pannel??? so when i click on on time, after the calender show me my schedule for the day and places to be?
[01:20] <boxmein> ran do-release-upgrade, my font rendering's gone wonky
[01:20] <boxmein> some native/gtk text boxes don't render and others render half the letters
[01:20] <boxmein> oh and the terminal running do-release-upgrade has quit showing any kind of meaningful text for half an hour now
[01:20] <boxmein> just numbers
[01:21] <bekks> boxmein: So let the upgrade continue and finish.
[01:21] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Well .. for the login screen, you can direct grub what resolution to use . BUT are you certain that 1366x768 resplution is compatible with bith displays ?
[01:21] <boxmein> bekks: even weirder, selecting and copypasting the text shows the good text when pasting into chrome
[01:22] <Molar_Mass> yes, the TV only works with that resolution
[01:22] <Molar_Mass> also, since this computer only uses one OS (ubuntu), the only login screen I'm concerned with is the lightdm (I think) unity default login screen
[01:25] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Try: edit /etc/default/grub and make GRUB_GFXMODE=1366x768 ; save the file and propogate the change ' sudo update-grub ' .
[01:28] <linuxnoob612> test
[01:29] <Molar_Mass> it was set to 640x480; I changed it and ran update-grub
[01:29] <Molar_Mass> same problem; I hear the login bongo noise but still have black screen...
[01:30] <Bashing-om> Molar_Mass: Was also "commented" out .. did you also remove the '#" character at the start of the line ?
[01:31] <Molar_Mass> I did uncomment it.  Also, ubuntu keeps mentioning sys problems with /usr/bin/Xorg
[01:31] <Molar_Mass> how can I pastebin the error report?
[01:31] <nicomachus> !paste | Molar_Mass
[01:32] <Molar_Mass> Is there a way to share the full content of an ubuntu sys error report (without using multiple screenshots; I can't select it all for some reason)
[01:32] <cfhowlett> Molar_Mass, paste it!
[01:32] <cfhowlett> !paste
[01:33] <OerHeks> ik think you need x32 too >> GRUB_GFXMODE=1366x768x32 GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1366x768x32
[01:34] <murgan> I am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 13.10, is there a special way to do this?  Because every way I have tried does not work.
[01:34] <Molar_Mass> I'll try the x32 thing, but in the mean time I'll upload a screenshot of the the error
[01:34] <OneM_Industries> Hey, I am attempting to use minicom to do a loopback test on a serial port. How would I do this?
[01:34] <OerHeks> and update-grub
[01:35] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[01:35] <OneM_Industries> I don't see what I am typing when the local echo is on, so I not sure if the terminal is even active.
[01:35] <OerHeks> see the old-releases part
[01:35] <Molar_Mass> imgur.com/Dr1W7j0
[01:38] <Molar_Mass> I made both those changes, but still same result
[01:39] <Molar_Mass> on the bright side, no more sys error!
[01:39] <murgan> maybe its not possible
[01:43] <murgan> I am trying to upgrade from ubuntu 13.10, is there a special way to do this?  Because every way I have tried does not work.
[01:44] <cfhowlett> murgan, 13.10 is end of life.  an eolupgrade is possible.  go to 14.04 and hold until april for 16.04
[01:44] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade
[01:45] <Molar_Mass> well, after a TV firmware update it turns out the true resolution is actually 1280x768!
[01:45] <Molar_Mass> I'll reboot and see if that fixes it
[01:45] <murgan> cfhowlett, that page doesn't help me
[01:46] <Bashing-om> mol make sure you change the grub file 1st .. save and 'update-grub ' !
[01:46] <cfhowlett> murgan, then use .torrents to get the 14.04 .iso, make a bootable USB, boot the USB and clean install
[01:46] <Molar_Mass> that's what I did
[01:46] <murgan> ...
[01:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades  murgan
[01:47] <murgan> everbody keeps giving me a page that doesn't have anything useful for me
[01:48] <cfhowlett> murgan, did you even READ the page? it describes precisely what you must do to upgrade
[01:48] <murgan> cfhowlett, yes i have
[01:48] <Bashing-om> murgan: It certainly should .. been in existence and still used for years and years and years . Where is the particular hang up ?
[01:49] <murgan> Bashing-om, I have found nothing that helps with the upgrade.
[01:50] <murgan> To begin the upgrade, make sure you have a sources.list like the following, with CODENAME being your release, e.g. quantal.
[01:50] <murgan> nothing tells me how this is done..
[01:50] <cfhowlett> murgan, you have 2 options:  eolupgrade or clean install.  you will have to do a bit of work either way.
[01:51] <Bashing-om> murgan: 2nd page ... using percise as the reference .. one changes in /etc/apt/sources.list to " old-releases " and code name is " utopoc " . then run the update, upgrade, do-release upgrade process .
[01:51] <Molar_Mass> well, the tv now thinks it should be 1366x768 again...
[01:51] <Molar_Mass> Perhaps this is a problem with the TV, not the desktop
[01:52] <Bashing-om> murgan: code name utopic **
[01:52] <murgan> Bashing-om, and how is codename topic used?
[01:52] <alain1> hello, I have an audio issue...since I install I have audio just in ardour and Audacity...
[01:53] <cfhowlett> !audio | alain1
[01:53] <Bashing-om> murgan: Please read the guide, it is self explanitory .
[01:53] <Molar_Mass> When I start up the computer, I have to login blindly then plug into the spare (small) monitor to see the desktop.  Then, I have to change the resolution and plug the VGA cable between the TV and the spare several times before the TV is able to show the desktop
[01:53] <murgan> Bashing-om, are you serious?
[01:53] <Process> is it possible to mount a tar file with mount -o loop ?
[01:53] <bazhang> murgan, yes very
[01:54] <alain1> I do not have to do something with Jack?
[01:54] <bazhang> murgan, thats the way to eol upgrade
[01:54] <welovfree> Hello guys
[01:54] <psusi> Process, I don't think so... why would you want to?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> alain1, jack seizes audio priority when running.  jack should not be running unless you tell it to.
[01:54] <welovfree> How can I install plasma in Ubuntu 14.04?
[01:55] <bazhang> plasma desktop>
[01:55] <Process> psusi, convenience only
[01:55] <sebsebseb> welovfree: try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop that should give you a full KDE
[01:55] <murgan> Bashing-om, are you talking about this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[01:55] <sebsebseb> welovfree: not just plasma
 sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:55] <bazhang> !find plasma-desktop
[01:55] <Molar_Mass> my problem might be solved if I can convince my family to get a newer TV (this one's 6-7 yrs old); is there a list of TV's that work well with vga output from linux?
[01:56] <welovfree> sebsebseb, I'm still not getting what plasma is? can you please guide?
[01:56] <bazhang> just plasma-desktop will do it
[01:56] <sebsebseb> welovfree: the interface thing KDE usees basically
[01:56] <sebsebseb> welovfree: for it's GUI
[01:56] <Molar_Mass> or, I could just get a large display and convince them it's a TV :)
[01:56] <bazhang> kubuntu-desktop is much more than what they asked for
[01:56] <welovfree> sebsebseb, so ubuntu using different environment gnome right?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> bazhang: true
[01:57] <senaps> is there a way to show my google calender event's in time applet??? the default one?
[01:57] <murgan> bazhang, well its very confusing, seems someone could write an easier to understand guide
[01:57] <murgan> bazhang, maybe i can do it after i figure it out
[01:57] <sebsebseb> welovfree: Ubuntu uses Unity on top of the rest of GNOME basically, a differnet interface Unity, instead of GNOME Shell by default
[01:57] <psusi> sebsebseb, it is mostly gnome, just with a different shell by default
[01:57] <senaps> like when i click on the time, after the calender it show me my event's based on google calender?
[01:57] <xangua> senaps: if you mean unity desktop, probably no
[01:57] <welovfree> sebsebseb, I see
[01:58] <senaps> xangua : yea i mean on unity
[01:58] <sebsebseb> welovfree: you can have diffenret interfaces and things like that, and choose what you want via the log in screen
[01:58] <cfhowlett> murgan, suggest you install LTS (Long Term Support) releases.  Current one if 14.04 - supported for 5 years.  new LTS comes out in April; 16.04
[01:58] <family> anybody
[01:58] <welovfree> sebsebseb, cool
[01:58] <Molar_Mass> one more (very easy) question: where are the unity menu icons stored?  is it possible to change/edit them?
[01:59] <murgan> cfhowlett, i doubt i will be able to get past 13.10 lol
[01:59] <Molar_Mass> sorry, I meant icons for the dash
[01:59] <sebsebseb> welovfree: bazhang makes a point that Kubuntu is more than just plasma, but yes you'll get plasma as part of that, with most of the rest of KDE as well
[01:59] <Molar_Mass> *dash/sidebar
[01:59] <cfhowlett> murgan, did you install 13.10 yourself?
[01:59] <psusi> Process, ahh, it seems it is possible... with `archivemount`... see http://superuser.com/questions/265772/is-it-possible-to-mount-a-tar-file
[01:59] <souref> senaps: i believe you can sync Evolution with google calendar and events will appear in applet
[01:59] <murgan> cfhowlett, yes
[02:00] <welovfree> sebsebseb, but I have to install the whole os right? I mean Kubuntu?
[02:00] <sebsebseb> welovfree: if yur new to a Linux distro / Ubuntu  I suggest trying out a few interfaces personally and things like that, since that's part of the fun in my opinion :)
[02:00] <xangua> senaps: you could try this Google calendar indicator, it should be aviable in Ubuntu default repository
[02:00] <cfhowlett> murgan, then you can do this!  (but I suggest option B: download 14.04 and install it)
[02:00] <murgan> cfhowlett, i can do a fresh install, yea but i prefer not too
[02:00] <xangua> !info calendar-indicator
[02:00] <cfhowlett> murgan, fair enough.
[02:00] <murgan> cfhowlett, this is a dual boot computer, and i would rather just upgrade it
[02:00] <sebsebseb> welovfree: I thik there may be a smaller KDE a minimal one, but yes  I would  just try and do kubuntu desktop persoanlly if wanting KDE with Ubuntu
[02:01] <xangua> Mmmm :-/ or add the PPA welovfree atareao.es
[02:01] <sebsebseb> welovfree: altough personally I had some issues with trying to run that with 15.04 and 15.10, but should work ok enough for you
[02:02] <alain1>  cfhowlett: I understand but, in Audacity I use Jack as interface...But I don't have this option in VLC, Clementine..etc.
[02:02] <welovfree> sebsebseb, I am still using 14.04
[02:02] <welovfree> sebsebseb, is that ok?
[02:02] <cfhowlett> alain1, why would you need jack in vlc?
[02:02] <welovfree> sebsebseb, I am gonna run this: sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop
[02:02] <senaps> xangua :  thanks
[02:02] <dbarros> hey guys
[02:03] <sebsebseb> welovfree: yeah I think the issues I had were since the later KDE 5 that's in 15.04 and 10 I thinik,  that's a KDE 4 in Ubuntu 14.04
[02:03] <alain1> I don't need it it's just I don't have sound in the other app's since Jack was install...
[02:03] <dbarros> when you install a true type font from font viewer, where does it get copied ???
[02:03] <sebsebseb> bazhang: what is the real difference between kubuntu-desktop and plasma-desktop ? the meta packages
[02:03] <cfhowlett> alain1, right.  sounds like jack has hijacked all your audio.  wait 1 ...
[02:03] <Molar_Mass> I'm going to leave for now since the critical problem I had (nvidia/intel/xorg.conf) was solved and I have a crude but working workaround for my resolution problem.  Thanks!
[02:04] <murgan> I get the error failed to download reposity information - check your internet connection
[02:04] <welovfree> bazhang, "sudo apt-get install plasma-desktop" should do the job, right?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> welovfree: I think plasma-desktop is mostly just the interface or only that really, where as kubuntu-desktop will put in proper KDE programs to
[02:04] <bazhang> welovfree, yes
[02:04] <sebsebseb> welovfree: KDE like GNOME, is much more than just a interface
[02:04] <welovfree> sebsebseb, they are not like themes right?
[02:05] <sebsebseb> welovfree: they are not themes indeed, they are desktop environments
[02:05] <bazhang> seb lighter
[02:05] <sebsebseb> welovfree: for a basic taste try plasma-desktop for something more full kubuntu-desktop either way you'll get KDE
[02:06] <sebsebseb> welovfree: you can add in other KDE programs if you want later on anyway
[02:06] <senaps> anyway to use calendar-indicator in that place?
[02:06] <dbarros> answered to myself.... .local/share/fonts
[02:06] <dbarros> LOL
[02:06] <xangua> senaps: site is in Spanish but if you read a little, you'll find the usual add-apt-repository command to add third party apps http://www.atareao.es/ubuntu/calendar-indicator-en-el-centro-de-software-de-ubuntu/
[02:06] <welovfree> sebsebseb, what I was looking for exactly!! I looked for flat designed linux distos and didn't got the chance to find some, but found some themes like numix
[02:06] <welovfree> but there are not doing the job
[02:07] <senaps> xangua : i have it installed. but the problem is i like it to show under my time applet not it's own icon....
[02:07] <senaps> i want it's info under my default time applet :(
[02:07] <sebsebseb> welovfree: what have you treid so far interface wise, Unity and that's about it?
[02:07] <cfhowlett> alain1, suggest you purge ardour then reinstall so it will reset to default
[02:07] <alain1> ok thanks
[02:08] <welovfree> sebsebseb, nothing just bunch of themes
[02:08] <sebsebseb> welovfree: for Unity ?
[02:08] <welovfree> sebsebseb, yes
[02:08] <souref> senaps: add your google calendar to Evolution
[02:09] <welovfree> sebsebseb, yeah! I am think of using Kubuntu as a whole and see how KDE look like for real
[02:10] <senaps> souref : how do i do that?
[02:10] <sebsebseb> welovfree: ok your quite new to this I guess then, but ok time to move on to some real stuff then,  proper diffenet interfaces and so on,  not just themes.  I would suggest installing KDE yes,  but also persoanlly GNOME Shell,  that would be sudo apt-get install gnome  or  sudo apt-get intsall ubuntu-gnome   then you can move on to trying out things like Mate and Cinnamon even, and after that less commonly used things if you really want such
[02:10] <sebsebseb> as openbox and fluxbox,  loads of choices here,  and as long as things install ok, you just select what you want from the log in screen, (can even change the log in screen to another one). and one will go in by default, have FUN :)
[02:10] <senaps> souref : i can't find any option to add calendar's to datetime indicator
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !kde
[02:11] <sebsebseb> !gnome
[02:11] <souref> senaps: run Evolution -> File -> New Calendar
[02:12] <sebsebseb> welovfree: there you go ^^
[02:12] <ArneSE> Looks like the menu icons for libreoffice (preinstalled sometimes) are immense and may freeze the applications menu on slower systems.
[02:12] <welovfree> sebsebseb, can you recommend a tutorial, book or what ever to learn this subject in depth
[02:13] <senaps> souref : what's evolution? is a program i should install or what?
[02:13] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, eh?  liberoffice icons are no larger than other system fonts!
[02:13] <sebsebseb> welovfree: you don't really need a book or a tutorail for this one, it's just about instsalling stuff, and then trying them out from the log in screen really, and switching between like that to, from the log in screen :)
[02:13] <bazhang> !manual | welovfree
[02:13] <sebsebseb> welovfree: you'll see what I mean more I think, once you got another one installed, and look for the session option in the log in screen, it will say like Ubuntu/Unity and then KDE/Plasma for example
[02:14] <bazhang> !rute | welovfree and these
[02:14] <sebsebseb> bazhang: oh that's still made?
[02:14] <bazhang> yes
[02:14] <cfhowlett> sebsebseb, also: www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads.  Start at#0.  continue to #105
[02:14] <welovfree> bazhang, thanks
[02:14] <sebsebseb> cfhowlett: oh
[02:15] <bazhang> !fullcircle
[02:15] <cfhowlett> !fcm
[02:15] <bazhang> augh
[02:15] <bazhang> thanks cfhowlett
[02:15] <cfhowlett> bazhang, !  wow!  I didn't know there was a FCM bot!
[02:15] <bazhang> bot factoid
[02:16] <cfhowlett> :)
[02:16] <ArneSE> cfhowlett, 475kB, 1.3MB, 638 kB, 562, 145, 674, 145, 546 respectively on Ubuntu Mate, all SVG files
[02:16] <souref> senaps: yes
[02:16] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, darn it, now I'm curious.  Location of those so I can comprare to xubuntu?
[02:17] <ArneSE> cfhowlett, hovering over that submenu froze my system for a good 5-10 seconds on my eeePC
[02:17] <ArneSE> cfhowlett,  usr share icons hicolor scalable apps
[02:18] <ArneSE> on this machine I might have downloaded the packages, but on my eeePC libreoffice came preinstalled
[02:23] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14443737/
[02:24] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, same same.  I suspect you have limited ram on that device and you are running unity?
[02:25] <ArneSE> cfhowlett, It's ubuntu mate on both machines
[02:25] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, ram??
[02:25] <ArneSE> <2GB
[02:26] <ArneSE> SSDs
[02:26] <cfhowlett> ArneSE yep.  your ram, it is.  especially if you have multiple ffox tabs.
[02:27] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, proof?  sudo apt install lxde               logout, choose lxde session, login and compare
[02:27] <ArneSE> Firefox runs poorly, I had to install Chrome
[02:28] <welovfree> !Cinnamon
[02:29] <ArneSE> cfhowlett, Regardless, it's probably an issue for a lot of people since desktop linux ends up being installed on older HW quite commonly, I guess
 try Midori
[02:29] <alwan> it's slighty lighter than chrome
[02:29] <ArneSE> never tried lxde, might go for it on the eeePC which is the slowest
[02:30] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, older hardware loves lubuntu and xubuntu.  other buntus?  not so much.
 plus : Ubuntu MATE, but the most lightweight is Lubuntu
[02:30] <ArneSE> cfhowlett, In this case it's the absurd icon files though, the rest runs pretty okay...
[02:30] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, and need not be "older" hardware.  here in China, most laptops are sold with 2gb standard
[02:31] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, noted.  On my soon-to-retire dell 1545, I found unity non-usable.  switching DE's solved that issue.  YMMV
[02:31] <ArneSE> alwan, I'll try Midori now...
[02:32] <cfhowlett> alwan, I have seen but not tried mate.  will do a vbox at some point.
 install from PPA, the newest version which supports flashplayer
[02:33] <alwan> cfhowlett> for sure, you should try ubuntu MATE.. It's lightweight just like xubuntu
[02:33] <cfhowlett> alwan, will test ... thanks!
[02:34] <ArneSE> I... am an old amiga/mac guy so I liked the menus of Mate a bit better than "regular" ubuntu (unity?)
[02:34] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, ah, man .. amiga? you seriously outed yourself as a greybeard!  Welcome Gandalf!
[02:37] <ArneSE> cfhowlett, It's strange to see Amiga enthusiast meetings and everyone's old, then realize that I wouldn't be out of place >_<
[02:37] <cfhowlett> ArneSE, indeed!
[02:38] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: ArneSE : Hey, I still have an old Amiga 1000  .:)
[02:38] <cfhowlett> Bashing-om, hackable with buntu IIRC ...
[02:39] <senaps> souref : installed evolution and still not working....
[02:39] <senaps> it's calendar isn't showing me my events....
[02:40] <Bashing-om> cfhowlett: Yeah, so I understand . Have no desire/need to .. ubuntu real keeps me occupied .
[02:40] <ArneSE> Bashing-om,  I "hacked" around in the Robocity demo recently, made a BOB & background replacement program, but now I'm derailing the channel.
[02:42] <ArneSE> (Robocity was the (THE) demo showcasing the A1000's graphical power when released)
[02:46] <Bashing-om> ArneSE: Ya still got a kickstart and a boot disk ? ... Mine are messed up . need replacing, just have not taken the time to find out where/how .
[02:48] <ArneSE> Bashing-om, I'm still using my A1200, bought an IDE laptop HDD and installed WB3.1 (via WinUAE). Backed up all of my floppies to it.
[02:50] <ArneSE> I can move the HDD back and forth between A1200 and IDE-USB adapter
[02:51] <Bashing-om> ArneSE: Boy .. I am jealous . I have to clean up my disk drives and rebuild a WorkBench disk to boot up my Amiga system . We best however not discuss this in this channel .
[02:59] <brigitte> join acura
[03:00] <extrememist> Hey I have got Ubuntu server but I can't use dhcp to auto give it an IP.
[03:00] <extrememist> For some reason I've edited the config right but. It doesn't wanna assign an ip
[03:01] <cfhowlett> !server | extrememist
[03:16] <welovfree> hey guys what is the size of kubuntu-desktop?
[03:17] <ScottG_> How would I go about doing a minimal Ubuntu install? I've tried searching for this but I keep just finding results for the minimal install CD which I believe just doesn't come with all the packages bundled. I'm looking for ubuntu with like no xorg and such
[03:17] <cfhowlett> !mini | ScottG_,
[03:18] <cfhowlett> ScottG_, or do a server install
[03:18] <Bashing-om> ScottG_: That is the point, one builds what one wants .
[03:18] <Bashing-om> !minimal | ScottG_
[03:19] <ScottG_> Bashing-om: cfhowlett: Isn't the point of that image that it doesn't have all the packages on it? Or does it actually let me make a more custom initial install?
[03:19] <cfhowlett> ScottG_, exactly.  YOU choose what YOU want.
[03:19] <ScottG_> ok then I'll give that a shot. I thought it still installed everything that the normal installer did but it just had to download them
[03:20] <ScottG_> Why aren't you given that option on the normal installer?
[03:21] <cfhowlett> ScottG_, because most users find that question confusing and accept the defaults in any case
[03:21] <croberts> ScottG_: we must accept what the devs give us and be happy
[03:21] <ScottG_> alright fair enough
[03:21] <Bashing-om> ScottG_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall ; https://xpressubuntu.wordpress.com/2014/02/22/how-to-install-a-minimal-ubuntu-desktop/ .
[03:22] <ScottG_> I mean the installer gives them an option to do their own partitioning too lol
[03:22] <ScottG_> that's a pretty damn complicated thing compared to choosing some packages. Anyways thanks for the help
[03:24] <welovfree> How can I know the size of this package kubuntu-desktop?
[03:24] <Bashing-om> ScottG_: Not so tough . Now Linux From Scratch 'might' be complicated .
[03:25] <cfhowlett> welovfree, apt-cache show kubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <ScottG_> I'm not saying 'I' find it tough but for someone who needs an installer so simple they can't be bothered with a completely optional step of choosing packages...
[03:26] <welovfree> cfhowlett, thanks :)
[03:26] <finn> kubuntu needs about 15 gb unless you want out of room pretty quickly
[03:27] <cfhowlett> welovfree, you might also run a simulated installation:  apt-get -s install kubuntu-desktop
[03:27] <welovfree> cfhowlett, What is that?
[03:27] <cfhowlett> "simulated installation"
[03:27] <welovfree> cfhowlett, for what?
[03:28] <cfhowlett> it is a simulation - of - installation
[03:28] <welovfree> cfhowlett, haahah what a dumb I am
[03:29] <welovfree> cfhowlett, a demonstration
[03:29] <cfhowlett> that is a better term.  sorry for confusing the issue.
[03:29] <[Saint]> "something that would show you what would happen if you're actually doing it for real, but you're not, so it isn't"
[03:30] <welovfree> cfhowlett, :) thanks
[03:30] <cfhowlett> happ2help! welovfree
[03:31] <welovfree> cfhowlett, (y)
[03:32] <jesuslover> hello there is anybody familiar with lynx?
[03:34] <welovfree> !lynx
[03:34] <nicomachus> jesuslover: somewhat. ask your question
[03:34] <jesuslover> i am wondering if there is a lynx irc?
[03:34] <nicomachus> !alis | jesuslover use this to find one if there is one.
[03:35] <welovfree> #lynx
[03:36] <welovfree> !unity
[03:36] <welovfree> !notunity
[03:36] <nicomachus> welovfree: please don't spam the bot. You can /msg ubottu if you want to play with factoids.
[03:36] <welovfree> nicomachus, ok sorry
[03:49] <rahuldev> Hi, Can we install LAMP in ubuntu by sudo apt-get install, or by another easy method?
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !lamp | rahuldev
[03:51] <rahuldev> thanks cfhowlett
[03:51] <cfhowlett> happy2help! rahuldev
[03:53] <nicomachus> is there an easy way to automatically make all the sound from certain programs go out of a certain audio source? Like make Spotify go out of analog audio, and VLC go out of HDMI audio?
[03:55] <dniMretsaM> hi, having an issue with a USB drive. I used DD to copy over an ISO, but now my drive will only show up as being 8MiB large and I can't do anything with it. Any idea what's going on?
[03:55] <cfhowlett> dniMretsaM, merely copying the .iso will not make it bootable.  you have to set the flags.
[03:55] <cfhowlett> !gparted | dniMretsaM
[03:56] <GenericNode> hm
[03:56] <dniMretsaM> gparted only shows the drive as being 8MiB and it won't let me modify anything. i can't even create a partition table
[03:57] <cfhowlett> dniMretsaM, suggest you use the startup disk creator
[03:57] <cfhowlett> assuming that your goal is a bootable USB?
[03:57] <dniMretsaM> the command I originally used was dd bs=4M if=/path/to/image.iso of=/dev/sdb
[03:59] <dniMretsaM> yeah, that's the goal. I'll install that and see if I can et it to work
[03:59] <dniMretsaM> its the usb-creator-gtk package, correct?
[03:59] <nicomachus> dniMretsaM: it should be installed already.
[03:59] <cfhowlett> dniMretsaM, you have ubuntu booted up now?  should be there
[03:59] <dniMretsaM> I did a minimal install, so I don't have it on here
[04:00] <nicomachus> oh. yea it's usb-creator-gtk
[04:00] <nicomachus> errr... maybe
[04:01] <nicomachus> yea that's it.
[04:01] <nicomachus> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/usb-creator-gtk
[04:03] <Bashing-om> dniMretsaM: Also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb <- tool to create boot drives .
[04:03] <dniMretsaM> Open it up, select my flashdrive, and select Erase. Spins for a while, then I get a dbus error about it not receiving a reply
[04:03] <derener> dniMretsaM: there fdisk but it quite complicated
[04:03] <derener> *there's
[04:04] <dniMretsaM> fdisk hasn't worked for me either (and I'm good with complicated. I've been a linux guy for 6 years or so now)
[04:04] <derener> dniMretsaM: you can try to dd another iso on top of it so that the partition table gets fixed
[04:05] <nicomachus> or just write 0s
[04:05] <dniMretsaM> I've tried. It stops working and tells me the drive is too small
[04:05] <dniMretsaM> everything is seeing it as only 8MB in size (it's 8GB)
[04:06] <derener> dniMretsaM: maybe this is a bug in the linux kernel
[04:06] <nicomachus> doubtful.
[04:06] <derener> dd is very powerful when it cannot do anything it's the kernel at fault
[04:06] <nicomachus> or hardware...
[04:06] <derener> assuming the hardware is fine
[04:06] <nicomachus> dniMretsaM: have you checked the USB in another machine?
[04:07] <dniMretsaM> I geuss that's possible. but it seems more likely that my drive died at one point or another. dd worked fine the first time
[04:07] <dniMretsaM> I don't have access to another one currently, unfortunately
[04:09] <dniMretsaM> well I plugged my phone in and it seems to be reading just fine. so are we assuming this is a hardware issue, then?
[04:11] <ScottG_> So I'm running the minimal installer and grub-install seems fo be trying to install on the wrong drive. It's trying to install on sda but thats the usb drive I'm installing from. How can i resolve this?
[04:11] <derener> ScottG_: if you selected the correct drive it's a bug
[04:12] <nicomachus> derener: not everything is a bug..
[04:12] <ScottG_> derener: it doesnt ask me.
[04:13] <derener> ScottG_: if you make a custom installation it will ask you
[04:14] <derener> https://www.howtoforge.com/images/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntu_14.04_trusty_tahr/big/4.png
[04:14] <derener> here click the last option
[04:14] <ScottG_> i didnt do an advanced install or anything
[04:14] <derener> You must do a custom install
[04:15] <nicomachus> ScottG_: see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1748119
[04:15] <ScottG_> how do i do fhat at fhis point? im on the 'ubuntu installer main menu'
[04:16] <derener> it will ask you to select after a few screens
[04:17] <ScottG_> derener: no i mean im on that step and it failed
[04:17] <nicomachus> ScottG_: did you look at the link?
[04:18] <Fresco12> Hello
[04:19] <ScottG_> sorry im on phone and having a difficult time. give me a sec
[04:23] <ScottG_> ok the first link picture from derener is the graphical installer and im doing minimal
[04:23] <ScottG_> nicomachus: looking at your link
[04:24] <Jimmyjoe> Hello
[04:25] <ScottG_> is there a way i can just run grub-install /dev/sdb myself? if i drop into a shell it cant find grub-install
[04:28] <derener> ScottG_: i do not know about manual installation someone else maybe?
[04:28] <derener> what was the error from the ubuntu-installer?
[04:28] <nicomachus> ScottG_: you would have to use a Live version, mount the filesystem from the hard drive, and then install it.
[04:28] <jesuslover> hello there, i am wondering if it is possible to use hotmail on a telnet client like puTTy?
[04:29] <nicomachus> jesuslover: are you on Ubuntu?
[04:29] <ScottG_> i dont remember the exact error but it was trying to run on sda instead of sdb. sda was the usb installer
[04:29] <jesuslover> yes
[04:29] <nicomachus> jesuslover: you can use SSH with the -X option and then access hotmail via Thunderbird or a browser.
[04:30] <nicomachus> not quite sure if that's what you're asking or not.
[04:30] <jesuslover> i think i remember when i used to use puTTY
[04:30] <jesuslover> i was able to check my e-mail with puTTY
[04:30] <nicomachus> why are you using putty?
[04:32] <Fresco12> Hello all
[04:34] <jesuslover> idk
[04:34] <jesuslover> lol
[04:34] <jesuslover> that is what i've used before on windows
[04:35] <jesuslover> do you access SSH with the termianl in ubuntu?
[04:36] <nicomachus> jesuslover: yes you can.
[04:36] <nicomachus> !ssh
[04:37] <nicomachus> you can also use puTTY on Ubuntu, but there's not really any reason to.
[04:46] <ScottG_> nicomachus: derener: all i had to do was select 'no' when asking me to install on thr mbr then it lets me choose the drive
[04:46] <ScottG_> in expert mode at least
[04:47] <ScottG_> that worked
[04:47] <ScottG_> this seems like a bug in the installer to me
[04:47] <ScottG_> either sda is hard coded or i dunno
[04:47] <ScottG_> but theres no reason it should have been using sda
[04:49] <nicomachus> ScottG_: it's *likely* because of the boot order set in your BIOS, and not an Ubuntu bug.
[04:50] <nicomachus> Your BIOS checks for USB bootable media first, before checking for a SATA drive. So your USB gets assigned as sda instead of the SATA
[04:55] <ScottG_> i dont think it does. if i let my system boot up with the usb in it goes to the hdd not usb
[04:56] <anti-fascist> Ubuntu is an African word for humanity to others
[04:56] <ScottG_> also that seems like a bad way to determine where the mbr is installed anyway. many people are going to have the usb set to run first since thdy are doing an install
[04:56] <nicomachus> "African" = Zulu
[04:57] <anti-fascist> I help my group mates
[04:57] <anti-fascist> At uni
[05:00] <Zmax> Does ubuntu have a dev channel?
[05:00] <nicomachus> #ubuntu-dev
[05:00] <Zmax> nicomachus: thx
[05:01] <iddqd> hi, i need helpl on ubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[05:01] <Ben64> iddqd: explain your issue fully
[05:03] <iddqd> Thanks, I have an ASUS X205T laptop which is refusing to install Windows 8/10 from usb. I only can boot to the machine using my ubuntu usb. is there a way to start booting from Ubuntu usb then somehow choose an option to boot from a Windows usb?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> iddqd, did you buy this machine with ubuntu installed?
[05:04] <iddqd> No, it came with Windows but now the disk erased (builtin ssd on the motherboard)
[05:04] <derener> iddqd: what is the error when you boot windows?
[05:05] <cfhowlett> derener, suggest you see #windows for help installing windows
[05:05] <iddqd> When i got the BOOT MENU by pressing F2 at startup I can actually see the Usb plugged in. It returns to boot menu when i choose the Usb.
[05:06] <Ben64> iddqd: yeah, for help installing windows, join ##windows
[05:07] <derener> iddqd: your windows usb might be faulty
[05:07] <iddqd> Ben64, thanks for the help. I am a computer technican and have severeal other USB sticks which i am working with every day numerous of times.
[05:09] <iddqd> My usb sticks are working well. I am here because I eliminated (i believe) most steps to install the windows. apparently the ubuntu is my only option to get this problem solved.
[05:09] <tsimonq2> facing a bit of an expert level problem with my Ubuntu system...I was meesing around a bit with btrfs snapshots and I restarted it because of a new kernel. When I booted back again, I was met with the friendly systemd emergency root console. I started lightdm and it worked fine, then I started networking. So I was playing a bit with the snapshots, but I also installed the gdrivefs package...what could be wrong? as a last resort, I will back up as m
[05:10] <tsimonq2> and why would it be a systemd menu and not something with btrfs?
[05:10] <cfhowlett> tsimonq2, restart an older kernel to get back into your system and backup
[05:10] <tsimonq2> cfhowlett: I did, that was my first action...restarted into the old kernel and it still did that
[05:10] <tsimonq2> I am on the old kernel now
[05:11] <tsimonq2> it's most likely not the kernel because I haven't had problems with this kernel before
[05:15] <IrcUser> hi
[05:17] <yahn> Hi IrcUser, do you have an Ubuntu question?
[05:18] <IrcUser> im actually starting a drone and computer repair business and was wondering if anyone had a good name, i have "Drone And Computer Solutions" but i think there might be something better
[05:18] <nicomachus> that's not on topic here.
[05:18] <tsimonq2> IrcUser: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:19] <caballero> Hey guys! perhaps lots of you running ubuntu or any other linux flavor on a laptop...by installing these simple  tools $ sudo apt-get install pm-utils & laptop-mode-tool will give you up-to 6 hours of battery life time on initial start-up. Read more about it here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[05:19] <anti-fascist> I don't run random commands
[05:20] <Zmax82> Whats the topic?
[05:20] <cfhowlett> !topic | Zmax82
[05:23] <Zmax82> Not for sure if this is the right channel, but I'm the process of compiling Ubuntu Touch for a AOSP. Having problems
[05:23] <cfhowlett> !touch | Zmax82
[05:24] <Zmax82> !touch
[05:25] <anti-fascist> Yo if you had one chance
[05:26] <Papfox> Morning everyone. I'm looking for some advice on how to trace the cause of a kernel panic that's bringing a new install down but is dropping the machine so hard it doesn't seem to write anything in the logs please.
[05:26] <anti-fascist> Upgrade Ubuntu
[05:26] <Papfox> That makes it even worse.
[05:27] <anti-fascist> Run memtest
[05:27] <anti-fascist> Bad memory
[05:27] <anti-fascist> Or
[05:27] <anti-fascist> Check smart health on hdd
[05:27] <anti-fascist> Or reinstall
[05:28] <Papfox> I'll give it a go but it's fresh install on  a nearly new machine with new SSDs and spinning disc. I've tried installing on more than one drive  and Windows isn't having any issues.
[05:29] <Zmax82> gnome_flashback
[05:29] <linuxaddicts> i have installed 15.10, apt-get update works. sudo apt-get update errors as http://paste.ubuntu.com/14444780/
[05:30] <linuxaddicts> the forums suggest to delete lock file, it did not help.
[05:30] <Zmax82> Does it work in SU mode?
[05:30] <drwxr-x---> i haven't run across kernel panic on ubuntu and other ubuntu based distros. i mostly encounter kernel panic on independent distros and other rolling distros... example, pclos never ever boot on my laptop.
[05:30] <linuxaddicts> i have no other session which is running software manager or apt.
[05:31] <yahn> linuxaddicts, have you tried rebooting?
[05:32] <linuxaddicts> su does not work, sudo works.
[05:32] <linuxaddicts> yahn, yes i have rebooted
[05:32] <drwxr-x---> yahn: as a desktop user, i always shutdown my machine every after use
[05:32] <Zmax82> Papfox: have you tried gnome-flashback?
[05:32] <yahn> linuxaddicts, so you're able to sudo apt-get update now?
[05:33] <linuxaddicts> yahn, oops sorry my bad. it does not work.
[05:33] <linuxaddicts> :-)
[05:33] <Papfox> what is the output of ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/lock and ls -ld /var/lib/dpkg
[05:34] <linuxaddicts> -rw-r----- 1 root root 0 Jan  8 14:08 /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:35] <linuxaddicts> drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jan  8 14:08 /var/lib/dpkg
[05:36] <Papfox> Nothing wrong with the permissions... What is the output of sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:36] <Papfox> Nothing wrong with the permissions... What is the output of sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:38] <selopin> just did fresh install with updates.. how do i test if my video driver is in use or the low grade universal one is being used
[05:38] <linuxaddicts> output of lsof - http://paste.ubuntu.com/14444828/
[05:38] <selopin> youtube videos have a choppy  buffering kinda feel to them but they do play still
[05:39] <yahn> selopin, can you put the output of lshw -c video into a pastebin please?
[05:39] <Papfox> @linuxaddicts, there are no programs listed there so nothing has the file open
[05:40] <Papfox> Does the file go away if you do sudo rm -f /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[05:40] <linuxaddicts> it goes away
[05:41] <Papfox> now what happens if you do apt-get update
[05:41] <linuxaddicts> when i re-run sudo apt-get update
[05:41] <selopin> so just pastebin | lshw -c?
[05:41] <linuxaddicts> it comes back
[05:41] <Papfox> It should
[05:41] <linuxaddicts> and gives the same error
[05:41] <yahn> selopin, head to pastebin.com and just paste the output of that command for me
[05:41] <yahn> it'll show what driver is in use
[05:42] <selopin> wil do
[05:43] <Papfox> The file is there on my system and it works fine.
[05:44] <Papfox> PLease will you paste the output of sudo mount
[05:45] <selopin> http://pastebin.com/eJkTqqDG
[05:45] <selopin> yahn http://pastebin.com/eJkTqqDG
[05:45] <TomTomTosch> hello. i cant find my Xorg.conf. Did it move from /etc/X11/xorg.conf? I'm using 15.10.
[05:46] <linuxaddicts> Papfox, http://paste.ubuntu.com/14444850/
[05:46] <Papfox> The two most likely causes of this are that either you aren't root or the whole filesystem is mounted read only. What is the machine and what's the drive it's installed on? Is it a real drive or something like an SD flash card?
[05:46] <yahn> selopin, looks like the driver is loaded fine. Using the open source Intel driver (which is the desired one for Intel devices)
[05:46] <selopin> thank you
[05:46] <yahn> selopin, you're probably running an intel atom device right?
[05:46] <selopin> yes
[05:46] <yahn> selopin, may I ask what Ubuntu version you're running?
[05:46] <selopin> anything i can do to speed up video playback at least for youtube levels
[05:47] <selopin> 15.10
[05:47] <yahn> selopin, regular Ubuntu using the Unity desktop?
[05:47] <selopin> ya...
[05:47] <cfhowlett> selopin, atom device?  try a lighter distro: lubuntu or xubuntu.  also, don't multitab your browswer
[05:47] <derener> TomTomTosch: xorg.conf hasn't been used for 4 years
[05:47] <selopin> first time to ubuntu was learning fedora but 23 wont instlal so figuerd i would check out ubuntu for a while
[05:48] <yahn> selopin, Unity will probably be sluggish on hardware as constrained as that. Lubuntu, Xubuntu or Ubuntu Mate should offer better performance.
[05:48] <selopin> ? dont multitab browser
[05:48] <selopin> i c
[05:48] <yahn> selopin, however I can recommend a program called 'minitube' which should help with youtube playback
[05:48] <Papfox> @linuxaddicts, am I right that this is a virtualised system running on VMWare with an LVM filesystem?
[05:48] <linuxaddicts> Papfox, yes
[05:48] <yahn> selopin, give it a shot: http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube
[05:49] <yahn> selopin, I used to use it all the time when I was running on older hardware. Doesn't utilise flash so it's much more forgiving on older hardware
[05:49] <yahn> selopin, program is free and open source :)
[05:50] <TomTomTosch> derener: ah, thx. got confused a little. got it now.
[05:50] <Papfox> @linuxaddicts, can you open a test file in /var/lib/dpkg with a text editor, write some text in it, close it, open it again and get what you typed in it?
[05:52] <linuxaddicts> Papfox, it does not allow me to write
[05:52] <Papfox> @linuxaddicts, which text editor did you use and what was the command?
[05:53] <linuxaddicts> vim /varlib/dpkg/locktest
[05:53] <linuxaddicts> permgrnt
[05:53] <linuxaddicts> while saving
[05:53] <Papfox> Needs to be sudo vim if you aren't root
[05:54] <linuxaddicts> with sudo, i'm able to write and save the file
[05:55] <Papfox> Is what you typed inside it afterwards?
[05:55] <selopin> sry system locked up
[05:55] <linuxaddicts> yes it is there
[05:55] <selopin> last msg i saw you were sugesting miniuntu and 2 other ones
[05:55] <selopin> was going to ask you what you though btween the 3 sugestions you made. and are these all available from ubuntus home site?
[05:56] <Papfox> I'm wondering if this is some problem with the virtualised environment or the storage in the LVM.
[05:56] <Papfox> Hang on, silly question, is the green Ubuntu update indicator sitting in the dock letting you know there's updates?
[05:57] <yahn> Papfox, yeah it is
[05:57] <Papfox> That's possibly got the package database locked. Open it then close it to make sure it's gone.
[05:57] <selopin> yahn im back
[05:57] <yahn> selopin, did you try out minitube?
[05:58] <selopin> just noted that down abuot to
[05:58] <selopin> what were the other versions of ubuntu u mentioned?
[05:58] <yahn> selopin, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Mate
[05:58] <yahn> selopin, I'd say Lubuntu is the lighest, then Ubuntu Mate and then Xubuntu
[05:59] <linuxaddicts> Papfox, no there is no indicator about updates
[05:59] <cfhowlett> selopin, you might it find best to test the interface for those other versions before doing a full installation.  for example: sudo apt install lxde xfce4                 then logout/choose a session/ login
[05:59] <yahn> selopin, http://lubuntu.net/ http://xubuntu.org/ https://ubuntu-mate.org/
[05:59] <selopin> i c .. i dont want it to be too stripped a ton to leqarn
[06:00] <selopin> good point cfh
[06:00] <linuxaddicts> if i do sudo -i and become root, apt-get update works.
[06:00] <cfhowlett> selopin, believe it or not, you were not born knowing any of this stuff.  you can easily learn and adapt to a new desktop environment.
[06:01] <selopin> im learning that now... i believe ya was thanking you for your point
[06:01] <cfhowlett> happy2help! selopin
[06:01] <selopin> brb kids
[06:02] <Papfox> Sorry, I'm out of ideas. The directory, filesystem and file seem to be writable. lsof returned nothing so nothing has the file open. You don't think you've got the software center, package manager or updater running. It should work. The software updater is a grey letter A with a circle round it made of two arrows.
[06:06] <linuxaddicts> Papfox, sure. thanks for the help.
[06:22] <Vey> Hi guys!
[06:22] <Vey> Need some help...
[06:22] <yahn> Vey, whats the issue?
[06:22] <Vey> I have created a Ubuntu bootable usb stick
[06:23] <Vey> but it doesnt run when i insert the usb to my laptop (windows 8 pro)
[06:23] <cfhowlett> Vey, you must interrupt the boot process and specify booting from USB
[06:23] <Vey> ahhh let me check again
[06:25] <Vey> ermm... should my usb pendrive in Fat32 or NTFS?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> Vey, fat32
[06:25] <yahn> Vey, I recommend Rufus to create your bootable USB in Windows. https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[06:26] <Vey> ahh i see... i convert to ntfs due to I need to partition an Xbox One hdd...
[06:26] <Vey> i convert to fat32 and give it a shot... thanks yahn... i got rufus installed
[06:26] <cfhowlett> Vey, USB's are cheap.  get another one for your Ubuntu work
[06:27] <Vey> yea actually i gonna use this usb for only Ubuntu...
[06:27] <yahn> Vey, Rufus will do this for you, no need to select a file system. Just point to your Ubuntu ISO, make sure the correct USB is selected and off you go :)
[06:28] <Vey> ahh ok. giving a shot now
[06:36] <MensaMentali> Hai guys!
[06:36] <welovfree> hello MensaMentali
[06:36] <yahn> Hi MensaMentali, do you have a question relating to Ubuntu?
[06:36] <MensaMentali> Has anyone ever dealt with the login loop?
[06:37] <MensaMentali> I am running 15.10 on a dual boot alongside Windows 10
[06:38] <yahn> MensaMentali, I haven't unfortunately.
[06:39] <MensaMentali> Last night I installed aircrack-ng without modifying the kernel and as soon as i ran airodump-ng the network driver crashed. Immediately after that occurred I restarted my machine and have been met with the login loop ever since.
[06:41] <MensaMentali> I have an entire list of possible fixes but would like to narrow them down if possible.
[06:45] <Vey> ahh... it doesnt boot either after using rufus...
[06:47] <MensaMentali> What exactly is rufus?
[06:48] <Vey> a bootdisk creator
[06:48] <Vey> something like that
[06:48] <derener> rufus is a tool to install operating systems from usb
[06:50] <MensaMentali> I see. Are you suggesting I do a clean reinstallation using rufus?
[06:50] <derener> rufus was suggested to Vey
[06:50] <yahn> Vey, at what point is it failing?
[06:50] <yahn> MensaMentali, no, I was talking to Vey about using it to create a bootable USB
[06:51] <MensaMentali> Ohhh, sorry about that
[06:51] <Vey> firstly i create the usb using universal usb installer...but my usb is in ntfs...
[06:51] <Vey> and then... i create again with rufus and make sure its fat32
[06:52] <Vey> everytime i plug in the usb to my laptop win8 pro... it says it cant run in this pc
[06:52] <Vey> i tried it on a win7 desktop same problem
[06:53] <Vey> i went wrong somewhere i guess...
[06:53] <yahn> Vey, are you just inserting the ubuntu USB into the computer while it's already booted into Windows?
[06:53] <Vey> ohhh.... so meaning i cant boot it in windows? lmfao
[06:54] <yahn> Vey, nah that's not how it works
[06:54] <Vey> gahahahah im a dumb ass LOL
[06:54] <Vey> ok... loggin off now and see what happens lol
[06:55] <Vey> thanks... brb with the result later
[06:55] <yahn> Vey, if you reboot your laptop or desktop, when the BIOS/UEFI interface comes up there should be an option to 'Change Boot Device'. It usually requires you to hit a function (F9, F12 etc.) key. It should bring you into a menu where you can select to boot from USB
[06:55] <Vey> i thought i can boot it in windows lmao
[06:55] <Vey> brb
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:10] <Geo> Hello, I'm trying to create a reverse tunnel using "ssh -g -R 192.168.1.150:5000:192.168.180.136:5000 geo@192.168.1.150" However, it is only binding to 127.0.0.1 on the remote host, as opposed to any other valid address I try
[07:10] <Geo> any ideas what else needs to change?
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> Geo: maybe something for the #openssh guys?
[07:12] <Geo> ok
[07:14] <vista1nik> hi
[07:24] <umum> Hi, evrybody ! Good day..!!!
[07:27] <umum> Anyone knw how to fix blueman can't connect to audio sink dev??!!!
[07:29] <umum> chill... still...
[07:29] <umum>  Anyone knw how to fix blueman can't connect to audio sink dev??!!!
[07:50] <vbotka> umum
[07:52] <_Doc_> Goodmorning
[07:53] <vbotka> umum: in Bluetooth applet devices right-click the device and select the mode (headset, handsfree, audio sink). The device shuld connect.
[08:00] <riley_> hello
[08:00] <adiultra> Hi
[08:02] <minion1> hello ;^D
[08:02] <adiultra> What's up.
[08:05] <bitgeek> hello, I ssh from ubuntu to debian but when I hit tab for tab complete I see lots of code printed to the screen, similar to 'set -x', how can I switch that off
[08:07] <EriC^^> bitgeek: is bash-completion installed?
[08:09] <bitgeek> EriC^^, how do I check please?
[08:10] <EriC^^> bitgeek: try set +x
[08:10] <bitgeek> EriC^^, I type 'bash' then hit <tab> it isn't listed
[08:11] <EriC^^> what? no apt-cache policy bash-completion to check if it's installed
[08:11] <bitgeek> EriC^^, wow that worked, thanks!
[08:11] <EriC^^> no problem!
[08:11] <riley_> is there anyone here who can help me out with some vim issues?
[08:18] <senaps> How can i activate my webcam? it doesn't work using any program.... :(
[08:31] <derener> senaps be warned that not all webcams are supported
[08:32] <derener> user left
[08:33] <EW1LN> senaps vlc
[08:33] <EW1LN> see /dev/videoX
[08:34] <Hackbert> hello
[08:47] <mkander_> I am setting up auto scaling on a server cluster and need to find a way for the new nodes to automatically download the web files (e.g. public_html). Also pull new updates to the html code automatically. What is the best way to do this?
[08:52] <rishi_> vivek
[08:58] <zhxk82> hello, i stopped some services and reboot then find /etc/rc.local havent excuted, whats wrong ?
[09:02] <rww> (zhxk82 is using Debian and has been redirected to #debian)
[09:04] <kuuhaku> hay
[09:05] <kuuhaku> you have problem guys, lets sharing in here
[09:05] <rww> ?
[09:05] <kuuhaku> hy rww
[09:12] <rww> alrighty then
[09:19] <danzka> Hey guys, I am trying to change the resolution for the login screen from /etc/gdm3/Init/default via xrandr but unfortunately GDM3 ignores my command, this is a guest machine under VMWare Pro 12, any idea?
[09:24] <helix12> danzka: AFAIK, vmware can make guest resolution to fit the window if your guest using vmware graphics driver
[10:15] <I-am-Groot> Hello, I am back again. yahn, gordonjcp , I did the RAM32 test as you said. It took about 30minutes to complete tho but there were no errors
[10:16] <I-am-Groot> Just before i did the test, Ubuntu crashed again and switched to text console with a different error message
[10:24] <Skyrider> How much does kubuntu differs from kubuntu, installation wise / software package wise? (default)
[10:24] <Skyrider> **ubuntu / kubuntu
[10:24] <cfhowlett> different default apps.
[10:25] <Skyrider> And installation?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, it's ubuntu.  sudo apt-get install ...
[10:25] <Skyrider> I'm referring to the package / installation of ubuntu, not ssh.
[10:25] <Skyrider> Eg, is the installation the same as on kubuntu, partition wise.
[10:25] <zipace> Skyrider: kubuntu uses kde (and comes with a few packages that kde depents on, such as ruby), whereas ubuntu uses something else (gnome? unity? idk)
[10:26] <Skyrider> And does ubuntu uses the same package manager software as kubuntu.
[10:26] <Skyrider> Or using a different kind of package manager.
[10:26] <zipace> Skyrider: installation-wise, it's the same thing, it's just ubiquity
[10:26] <Skyrider> Im just making sure so I can swap to ubuntu :)
[10:26] <Skyrider> without a hassle and without thinking twice.
[10:26] <zipace> Skyrider: they both use apt.. did you really expect them to be that different? :-p
[10:26] <Skyrider> noes, course not :D
[10:27] <nikolam> how to het Stereo sound user reports it has MONO sound selected: 'pacmd list-sinks | grep name' : http://pastebin.com/pDqU7Yg9
[10:27] <Skyrider> and I'm referring to the software / package search software
[10:27] <Skyrider> not apt-get.
[10:27] <Skyrider> desktop ;)
[10:27] <I-am-Groot> OOkay...it seems like yahn and gordonjcp arent available. If anyone could help out, that will be great.
[10:27] <zipace> well, suffice to say that you don't have to worry about installation or packagemanager diffs
[10:27] <I-am-Groot> My Ubuntu 14.04 keeps crashing and when it does, it switches to a text console like a terminal with a few texts. I sent them here yesterday but a suggestion was made that i test my ram which i have done this morning but the rams reported to be working fine
[10:27] <I-am-Groot> Ubuntu crashed again this morning and the error was different fro yesterday's
[10:27] <I-am-Groot> THis is the error i recieved yesterday http://imgur.com/UDfMTHk
[10:27] <bazhang> apt-cache search is the same Skyrider
[10:27] <Skyrider> For instance, I see kubuntu uses.. muom discover.
[10:28] <zipace> Skyrider: in that case, kubuntu uses muon, but you can have muon on ubuntu just fine (just install it via apt)
[10:28] <bazhang> Skyrider, please have a look at some the basic reading I will link you to
[10:28] <Skyrider> So that's missing on ubuntu, good to know.
[10:29] <bazhang> Skyrider, did you have an actual support issue of an installation, or just wish to compate DE differences
[10:29] <zipace> Skyrider: i strongly suggest you to get used to using apt directly though, it can save you a lot of problems. and like i said, muon can be used just fine on ubuntu, but you *do* have to install it first
[10:29] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, you might try updating your system bios
[10:29] <bazhang> as does synaptic need installation
[10:30] <Skyrider> Not exactly. Just wanting to know the exact difference so I can install ubuntu without a hassle like I've installed kubuntu (partition manager, auto include swap, etc).. that's all.
[10:30] <bazhang> Skyrider, its all the same, some of the frontends differ
[10:30] <Skyrider> And I'm already familiar with apt btw, have been for years.
[10:30] <zipace> I-am-Groot: have you tried booting in safe mode? it pretty much looks like one (or more) drivers are mucking up your system
[10:30] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, how many times will you ask.  kubuntu is ubuntu.  SAME installation procedure, different look, same outcome.
[10:31] <Skyrider> I am well aware cfhowlett. But just because it 'is' ubuntu, doesn't mean they can change the installation GUI.
[10:31] <Skyrider> ***they can't.
[10:31] <zipace> Skyrider: dude, it's just a different theme
[10:31] <I-am-Groot> But there are no problems with my bios...i mean windows bootsup fine
[10:31] <zipace> it's literally the same program, in and out
[10:31] <Skyrider> Goody, no problems then.
[10:32] <I-am-Groot> zipace, No i havent
[10:32] <bazhang> Skyrider, lets move this to a chat channel, its gone far afield of any support issue
[10:32] <zipace> I-am-Groot: please do that then
[10:32] <I-am-Groot> Is there like a command i can use to remove such drivers?
[10:33] <I-am-Groot> zipace, I am trying to upload the crash error from this morning
[10:33] <I-am-Groot> When i am done, i will give it a try
[10:33] <zipace> I-am-Groot: well, let's start simple: have you installed any special drivers?
[10:33] <levima> ciao
[10:33] <Skyrider> Well, as far as I know it is 'part' of support (of asking a q).. which has been answered now. I do wonder however why this channel is so robust / harsh regarding the ask for support or leave / move to a different channel.
[10:34] <zipace> graphics card, cpu, i/o drivers, etc
[10:34] <Bishika> Hey I just repaired this laptop recently and installed ubuntu fresh video performance was great even upscaling to another monitor then I installed amd proprietary drivers from amd and performance is all around bad now compiz hogs a lot of cpu during actions and video playback especially in fullscreen is terrible
[10:35] <I-am-Groot> zipace, I did but i reverted back with the help of some guys from this channel
[10:36] <I-am-Groot> THat was months ago
[10:36] <I-am-Groot> I installed intel's VGA drivers
[10:36] <zipace> I-am-Groot: which driver specifically? also, there#s always the wooden hammer method (warning: will ***only*** work if / and /home are partitioned), whereas you reinstall the ubuntu base system, keeping your /home, but reinstalling the kernel cleanly
[10:36] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, wait what?  you install intel AND amd drivers?  for the same card??
[10:37] <I-am-Groot> zipace, Did that info help?
[10:37] <zipace> I-am-Groot: but why...? :-/ intel is fully supported by linux natively
[10:37] <I-am-Groot> okay zipace
[10:38] <I-am-Groot> cfhowlett, No, i only installed an Intel Driver
[10:39] <I-am-Groot> Yea.. i was just curious, i saw the Intel Graphics update program and just downloaded and runned it
[10:39] <I-am-Groot> And it gave me lots of problems like a very thick border around all windows
[10:39] <zipace> I-am-Groot: well, unless the intel GPU is the only GPU on your machine, there's really no good reason to do so
[10:39] <I-am-Groot> so i reverted back to the default one with the help of some guys from this channel
[10:39] <I-am-Groot> It is the only GPU
[10:40] <I-am-Groot> My laptop is a dell latitude e6420
[10:40] <I-am-Groot> It comes with just intel GPU unlike the i7 version that has a hybrid GPU
[10:41] <I-am-Groot> mine has an i5 CPU and here is the crash error from this morning http://imgur.com/Yr3cyTV
[10:42] <zipace> I-am-Groot: even in that case, any additional intel drivers are unlikely to give you more features.. in my experience, intel GPUs often just support basic opengl
[10:42] <I-am-Groot> OOkay...I didnt know that zipace
[10:42] <zipace> I-am-Groot: what i'm saying is, you can usually safely trust the builtin linux drivers
[10:44] <zipace> I-am-Groot: in any case, i'd recommend a clean reinstallation. just make sure not to overwrite /home (if it's partitioned)
[10:44] <I-am-Groot> zipace, I did trust it, it was just out of curiosity, i taught updating it would give it more features or functionality
[10:44] <levima> ciao
[10:44] <I-am-Groot> zipace, That problem was fixed almost a year ago.
[10:45] <zipace> I-am-Groot: sorry to disappoint :-/ your best choice would be a software renderer, but they're obviously much slower
[10:45] <I-am-Groot> zipace, What is a software renderer?
[10:45] <I-am-Groot> !software renderer
[10:45] <zipace> I-am-Groot: software opengl renderer, that is, opengl running on your CPU instead of your GPU
[10:46] <I-am-Groot> Ubottu doesnt know what it is
[10:46] <tarak_> Hi all
[10:46] <tarak_> I have 12.04 and I have ssh 6.3. I want to update to 6.4
[10:46] <tarak_> how do I do that
[10:46] <I-am-Groot> Okay zipace , But did u make anything out of the screenshot i took?
[10:47] <zipace> I-am-Groot: http://www.mesa3d.org/faq.html#part3 explains the bits
[10:47] <zipace> I-am-Groot: unfortunately no, dmesg output might tell us more
[10:47] <I-am-Groot> Okay....Standby. I am going to paste it
[10:48] <ReSam> good morning!
[10:49] <helix12> tarak: the easiest way is using package from more recent release
[10:49] <ReSam> regarding 16.04: why are the server amd64 images from mid november, and not like the others, basically nightlies? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[10:50] <cfhowlett> !xenial | ReSam
[10:52] <I-am-Groot> Pastebinit keeps giving me socket error
[10:52] <I-am-Groot> Failed to contact the server: [Errno socket error] timed out
[10:52] <ReSam> cfhowlett: are you refering to anything specific?
[10:52] <zipace> I-am-Groot: try termbin: dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:53] <cfhowlett> you asked about xenial ReSam .  as per the factoid, discuss in #ubuntu+1
[10:53] <ReSam> ah thx
[10:53] <zipace> I-am-Groot: or, if that also fails: dmesg | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[10:53] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[10:53] <Mathisen> anyone know off any free simple customer directory off some sort that i can use for a small company... web based would be optimal so i can reach it easy..
[10:54] <I-am-Groot> It didnt give me any error message but it didnt provide any url i could share
[10:54] <zipace> I-am-Groot: termbin ought to print an url, though... i just tested it
[10:55] <nick-8998> how do you change boot size if you cannot boot from cd
[10:55] <I-am-Groot> Oay..the curl one worked
[10:55] <I-am-Groot> http://sprunge.us/YeTb
[10:55] <zipace> excellent
[10:56] <nick-8998> how do you change boot size if you cannot boot from cd
[10:57] <nick-8998> how do you change boot size if you cannot boot from cd
[10:57] <I-am-Groot> zipace, Whatsup Doc! :)
[10:57] <tarak_> Hi
[10:58] <zipace> I-am-Groot: still reading
[10:58] <tarak_> how do I install any version from here in my ubuntu https://ftp.iitm.ac.in/linux/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/
[10:58] <I-am-Groot> Okay..Sorry. zipace . Please do continue
[11:00] <Bishika> ive tried a few ways to install these so I could get steam working but it looks like it was causing problems with my video drivers as well but i tried earlier to install the dependencies and i've had no luck he following packages have unmet dependencies:
[11:00] <Bishika>  libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 : Depends: libglapi-mesa:i386 (= 10.1.3-0ubuntu0.5)
[11:00] <Bishika>  unity-control-center : Depends: libcheese-gtk23 (>= 3.4.0) but it is not going to be installed
[11:00] <Bishika>                         Depends: libcheese7 (>= 3.0.1) but it is not going to be installed
[11:00] <Bishika> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[11:00] <chitta2019> hi
[11:01] <zipace> I-am-Groot: sadly it didn't reveal anything terribly useful
[11:01] <chitta2019> how to use my laptop internet as wifi
[11:01] <I-am-Groot> zipace, Hmmm..okay
[11:01] <Bishika> Any clues on installing those missing dependencies?
[11:01] <zipace> chitta2019: you mean tethering?
[11:02] <chitta2019> no so that i can use in my android phone
[11:02] <I-am-Groot> Is there a way i can do a fresh install and not loose my installed programs?
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !ics | chitta2019
[11:02] <zipace> chitta2019: that's what tethering means
[11:02] <james0r2> kern.log is getting spammed like crazy from my wireless adapter -> http://dpaste.com/2M27C00
[11:03] <helix12> tarak_: use dpkg
[11:03] <james0r2> kern.log it's filling up my 500gb harddrive and bogging me down
[11:03] <zipace> I-am-Groot: is your /home partitioned?
[11:03] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, no.  fresh install means exactly that.  not a bad idea in your case.  save your data to a /home
[11:03] <I-am-Groot> zipace,nope its not ...its just a directory
[11:03] <cfhowlett> james0r2, so what is your question?
[11:04] <tarak_> helix12: it ends with some errors
[11:04] <james0r2> how can i stop it?
[11:04] <james0r2> obviously
[11:04] <I-am-Groot> zipace, In the past, i was able to backup and restore my whole installation with tgz
[11:05] <cfhowlett> james0r2, solve the breach and those messages will stop
[11:05] <zipace> I-am-Groot: well... that complicates things, because in that case, you need to backup your files somewhere. once that is done, you can get a list of selected programs using dpkg: dpkg --get-selections > backup.txt
[11:05] <helix12> tarak_: I assume the errors are dependency or conflict
[11:05] <zipace> I-am-Groot: you should *really* create a /home partition next time, though
[11:05] <tarak_> Processing triggers for ufw ... Errors were encountered while processing:  openssh-server
[11:05] <tarak_> helix12: ^
[11:05] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, agree with zipace.  a dedicated /home is the way to go.
[11:06] <I-am-Groot> Yea...Okay... But my problem is i will like to have my programs without having to redownload them again. Internet connectivity sucks
[11:06] <zipace> in fact, i find it somewhat disappointing that the ubuntu installer still prefers using / wholly, instead of offering to create a /home partition
[11:06] <I-am-Groot> cfhowlett, Okay...i will keep that in mind
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !home |
[11:06] <helix12> tarak_: please paste your complete output using paste.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <tarak_> helix12: https://bpaste.net/show/f0b7a7aad8e4
[11:08] <tarak_> helix12: how do I remove those dep errors?
[11:08] <I-am-Groot> zipace and cfhowlett , Which directories can i backup appart from home directory that after a clean install i could restore thos directories and have all my programs back without downloading them from the internet again?
[11:08] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, nope
[11:08] <zipace> I-am-Groot: there's aptik, but i think it's GUI only, and that's probably not going to work for you
[11:09] <I-am-Groot> zipace, I tried aptik a while ago. It didnt restore all my programs
[11:09] <I-am-Groot> :(
[11:09] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, your system is fracked for some unknown reason.  download the .iso, VERIFY that iso with md5sum, install and then do a nice, virginal installation.  I suspect your problems will vanish.
[11:09] <helix12> tarak_: # apt-get remove openssh-server
[11:09] <I-am-Groot> Ookay... cfhowlett
[11:10] <zipace> tarak_: apt-get install -f
[11:10] <tarak_> helix12: then?
[11:10] <zipace> tarak_: also, are you installing openssh from a downloaded file?
[11:10] <tarak_> zipace: yeah
[11:10] <zipace> tarak_: why
[11:10] <tarak_> zipace: want to update it
[11:11] <zipace> tarak_: and apt-get didn't do the trick? :-P
[11:11] <tarak_> no
[11:11] <zipace> tarak_: well, explain what you're trying to achieve exactly (apart from updating in the worst way imaginable)
[11:12] <tarak_> zipace: I am on 5.5 ssh and wnat to upgrade
[11:12] <tarak_> so that I my server doesn't shut me
[11:12] <I-am-Groot> zipace, Just one more thing, is there a way to get a full list of all the programs i have installed so that i can redownload them after the clean install?
[11:13] <zipace> tarak_: any specific reason that made you believe it's the version of openssh that is causing your server to shut you out? because i find that hard to believe
[11:13] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, dpkg -l > installed.txt
[11:13] <tarak_> zipace: it would say the cert is invalid
[11:13] <zipace> tarak_: that's not an openssh-specific issue, that's a certificate issue
[11:13] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[11:14] <tarak_> zipace: hmm
[11:14] <tarak_> zipace: how can you be so sure?
[11:14] <zipace> tarak_: because it literally says so
[11:15] <tarak_> zipace:  key_from_blob: remaining bytes in key blob 36 cert_parse: Invalid signature key type unknown (10) key_from_blob: can't parse cert data
[11:15] <zipace> tarak_: you could try removing the hostname line of your server from ~/.ssh/known_hosts, although i think something else might be the problem here
[11:15] <I-am-Groot> cfhowlett, Is this list a list of user installed programs or both user installed and inbuilt programs?
[11:16] <cfhowlett> that would be a list of ALL programs
[11:16] <tarak_> zipace: no luck
[11:16] <zipace> tarak_: that looks like your private key is broken/malformed? maybe try generating a new one
[11:17] <I-am-Groot> Oookay...Is it possible to get only the ones i installed
[11:17] <tarak_> zipace: hmm, how can that be broken?
[11:17] <mazak> 6861707079206e6577207965617221
[11:18] <zipace> I-am-Groot: try 'apt-cache pkgnames' (i'm not running ubuntu atm, so i can only guess)
[11:18] <zipace> tarak_: there could be dozens of reasons
[11:18] <I-am-Groot> OOkay
[11:18] <I-am-Groot> THanks zipace , let me try it
[11:18] <tarak_> zipace:  I see
[11:19] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:20] <zipace> I-am-Groot: the one using dpkg is usually a safe choice, because core programs and/or already installed programs would be ignored during reinstallation
[11:21] <I-am-Groot> OOkay
[11:21] <I-am-Groot> So i should go with cfhowlett suggestion ryt?
[11:23] <I-am-Groot> zipace, Also is there a way of feeding the installed.txt generated after entering dpkg -l > installed.txt to the installer so that it automatically installs the packages
[11:23] <bekks> apt-get set-selections, apt-get get-selections
[11:24] <zipace> I-am-Groot: sure, dpkg --set-selections < file.txt
[11:24] <bekks> ah, I was misleaded.
[11:24] <bekks> -ed
[11:24] <zipace> I-am-Groot: then, for the sake of brevity, run apt-get install -f
[11:24] <I-am-Groot> OOkay..thanks guys
[11:24] <I-am-Groot> ookay
[11:27] <I-am-Groot> I will like to install 64bit of Ubuntu this time around. I hope the dpkg commands will still work ryt?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> I-am-Groot, if not you will  get error messages.  and a log.  should not be a problem unless you there are some missing 64 bit packages
[11:28] <zipace> I-am-Groot: yup
[11:28] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: if your hardware supports 64-bit, it will work exactly the same
[11:29] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: have you got a running system just now?
[11:29] <I-am-Groot> Yes..i am on Ubuntu 14.04 32bit version
[11:30] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: okay, and do you know if your CPU is 64-bit?
[11:30] <I-am-Groot> I am pretty sure it is.
[11:30] <gordonjcp> okay
[11:31] <gordonjcp> if you pop open a terminal and say "grep lm /proc/cpuinfo" it'll show the CPU flags
[11:31] <zipace> you'd be hard pressed to find a laptop that doesn't have a 64bit processor nowadays. even my old shitey netbook hat a 64bit cpu :-p
[11:31] <gordonjcp> if it doesn't show "lm" in the result - possibly highlighted in red - it's not 64-bit
[11:31] <gordonjcp> zipace: aye
[11:31] <gordonjcp> zipace: what's the newest 32-bit you're likely to run across, P4?
[11:32] <zipace> gordonjcp: i'm not even sure, 32bit is mostly emulation nowadays
[11:32] <gordonjcp> zipace: to which the next question is "does your laptop require a car battery?"
[11:33] <I-am-Groot> gordonjcp, zipace here it is
[11:33] <I-am-Groot> http://sprunge.us/Reca
[11:35] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: so that's a Core i5, definitely 64-bit capable
[11:35] <I-am-Groot> Yea
[11:35] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: if you run 64-bit then in practical terms you won't notice any difference
[11:35] <gordonjcp> well, not unless you've got more than 3GB of RAM
[11:36] <I-am-Groot> I have 4gb ram
[11:36] <bekks> 4GBThen you will notice the difference of being able to actually use the whole 4GB RAM.
[11:36] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: it appears you have 4GB
[11:36] <gordonjcp> yeah
[11:36] <I-am-Groot> Here is an output from cat /proc/cpuinfo http://sprunge.us/PTiZ
[11:36] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: go to it and good luck
[11:37] <I-am-Groot> But i am able to use all 4gb ram as at now
[11:37] <I-am-Groot> Atleast thats what the system tells me
[11:37] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: through PAE, which is not as fast
[11:37] <I-am-Groot> OOkay.
[11:37] <bekks> I-am-Groot: you arent, due to the fact you are using a 32bit OS, and there is a memory hole bertween 3 and 4 GB.
[11:37] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: when did you first get a PC?
[11:37] <gordonjcp> first one ever
[11:38] <I-am-Groot> Somewhere in 2013?
[11:38] <I-am-Groot> Lol
[11:38] <gordonjcp> okay
[11:38] <gordonjcp> so, way before that, 20 years before that
[11:38] <gordonjcp> PCs had maybe a couple of *megabytes* of memory
[11:38] <I-am-Groot> Okay..
[11:39] <gordonjcp> but because of design limitations they could only get at 640kB of it
[11:39] <gordonjcp> so we had this thing called "expanded memory", where it was switched in pages
[11:39] <bekks> gordonjcp: Megabytes? :) 640kB where enough for everyone :P
[11:39] <bekks> *were
[11:39] <I-am-Groot> lol
[11:39] <gordonjcp> bekks: I'm working with microcontrollers that have 64 *bytes* of RAM
[11:39] <bekks> gordonjcp: Thats plenty :)
[11:40] <gordonjcp> bekks: it's loads for what they do, although they're power-hungry
[11:40] <gordonjcp> flat out at 500kHz clock speed they pull nearly 20pA
[11:40] <I-am-Groot> Wow
[11:40] <gordonjcp> no wait, 20μA
[11:40] <gordonjcp> 20pA in standby mode
[11:41] <I-am-Groot> Mmm..that explains why my RAM gets hotter than my CPU
[11:41] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: anyway yeah you can see how if your processor can only address 4GB of memory you need to leave a "hole", where all the memory-mapped devices go
[11:41] <I-am-Groot> OOkay
[11:41] <gordonjcp> 32 bits = 0 to 4 billion or so
[11:41] <vvassilev> I am running a few ubuntu server machines, what backup system would you recommend?
[11:42] <bekks> vvassilev: the one that meets your requirements.
[11:42] <gordonjcp> at 4GB of address space, you literally run out of numbers to talk about memory locations with
[11:42] <vvassilev> bekks: good answer :) My requirements are weekly/daily backups of web services mostly.
[11:43] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: so what you can do is you can say "right, 0 and 1 GB are always RAM, 3GB is always hardware, and from 2GB to 3GB I'll switch in 1GB slices of RAM from this bigger bit"
[11:43] <I-am-Groot> Okay
[11:43] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: so you can use that to "fake" having more than 4GB available
[11:43] <vvassilev> I read nice things about rsync and I had (not so nice) experience with bacula...
[11:43] <bekks> vvassilev: So use a backup solution that meets your requirements, regarding backup frequency, type, administration, restoration, etc.
[11:43] <bekks> vvassilev: bacula works fine here.
[11:44] <vvassilev> bekks: to me it looks very complex and AFAIK doesn't have a useful GUI
[11:44] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: a bit like if you've got space on your desk for four books, one of which you are writing in so you always need to have it, two of which you refer to frequently, and you've got a shelf with another bunch of books on that you can pick up and look at, then put back when you're done
[11:44] <gordonjcp> vvassilev: servers don't have GUIs
[11:44] <bekks> vvassilev: bacula dont need a gui.
[11:45] <I-am-Groot> Okay...am following
[11:45] <bekks> vvassilev: and bacula is a full blown backup solution, not a one-line script like rsync.
[11:45] <cfhowlett> vvassilev, you might want to ask #ubuntu-server.
[11:45] <vvassilev> gordonjcp: I know that, but still something web based and useful should do. I had the web based bacula GUI but it wasn't very useful..
[11:46] <vvassilev> cfhowlett: thanks for the hint.
[11:46] <vvassilev> I guess my question is "Is there something else on the marked, which is not bacula based"...
[11:46] <bekks> vvassilev: Sounds like you are mixing up backuppc and bacula - bacula doesnt have a web based gui at all.
[11:47] <vvassilev> bekks: http://www.bacula-web.org/
[11:47] <Bishika> Hey quick question I just purged my amd proprietary drivers and got the normal x ones back video is working great but my corsair usbthat streams to my headset powers on then just shuts off now
[11:47] <Bishika> Normal audio and other usb devices work
[11:47] <bekks> vvassilev: Thats a 3rd party tool. It is not part of the official bacula distribution.
[11:48] <vvassilev> bekks: yep, however it makes bacula a little easier to work with...
[11:49] <bekks> vvassilev: I am quite fine with bconsole.
[11:50] <I-am-Groot> gordonjcp, So with all these in mind, which version of Ubuntu should i download?
[11:50] <rahuldev> hi, In ubuntu how can i know my LAMP host name?
[11:50] <vvassilev> bekks: good for you ;)
[11:50] <I-am-Groot> Which of these?? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[11:51] <I-am-Groot> I dont like to do updates because of my internet connection
[11:51] <vvassilev> bekks: I'd love to see a web-based solution working with a few mouse clicks...
[11:51] <bekks> vvassilev: After seeing it, you need to wake up again :)
[11:52] <vvassilev> bekks: sigh... this is what people said a few years ago about running vms, now there is openstacks, dockers, vagrants...
[11:52] <vvassilev> So I guess we will have to wait a bit more :)
[11:53] <bekks> vvassilev: And all that is totally unrelated to your wish of a failsafe, easy to work with, full feature blown web gui for bacula which simply does not exist.
[11:54] <vvassilev> bekks: thanks for the lesson, I'd loved to see more constructive ones :)
[11:54] <bekks> vvassilev: Good luck.
[11:54] <vvassilev> bekks: Thanks, less arrogance would be nice too :)
[11:55] <I-am-Groot> So i headed over to the ubuntu download page and selected the 64bit recommended ubuntu 14.04.3 and they gave me Ubuntu-14.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:55] <I-am-Groot> But i dont have an amd processor
[11:55] <I-am-Groot> I have an intel processor
[11:55] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: that's okay, it's the same thing
[11:55] <bekks> I-am-Groot: you dont need an AMD processor for using 64bit.
[11:55] <I-am-Groot> oookay
[11:56] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: it's called amd64 because AMD were first to market with a 64-bit chip :-)
[11:56] <zipace> I-am-Groot: that's just fine, amd64 is misleading, but trust me it'll run fine
[11:56] <I-am-Groot> OOkay guys..thanks very much. I will let you guys know how it goes
[11:57] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: there were other "high-end" 64-bit CPUs but AMD had the first "consumer" one
[11:57] <I-am-Groot> OOkay...that explains it
[11:57] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: just like all mid-size vans (at least over this side of the Atlantic) are "Transits"
[11:57] <gordonjcp> 'cos Ford got theirs to market first
[11:58] <I-am-Groot> But the reason why i was worried was because... a while ago, i intro duced ubuntu to a friend and he had an amd machine and it wont install the 64bit version of ubuntu until we found an AMD version of ubuntu.
[11:58] <I-am-Groot> SO when i saw amd, i taught i would have have that same problem.
[11:59] <gordonjcp> no, all 64-bit versions are labelled "AMD"
[11:59] <I-am-Groot> Okay gordonjcp . THanks for clarifying
[11:59] <I-am-Groot> Was it like that  back in 2012?
[11:59] <gordonjcp> I-am-Groot: it's always been that way
[12:00] <I-am-Groot> Hmmm... ookay
[12:00] <BluesKaj> I-am-Groot:  I used the same disk to install kubuntu 64bit on my amd 64 desktop and and my intel 64bit laptop, there's no difference
[12:00] <I-am-Groot> OOkay.
[12:01] <I-am-Groot> THen maybe the errors had something to do with ubuntu's wubi.exe installer
[12:01] <gordonjcp> oh
[12:01] <gordonjcp> wubi?  All bets are off
[12:02] <BluesKaj> wubi is no longer supported afaik
[12:02] <I-am-Groot> Because after reboot, it would get stuck with some errors...forgotten what errors they were
[12:02] <Bishika> So any tipsfor getting my usb headset working again? usb for a wireless headset
[12:02] <I-am-Groot> Yea BluesKaj
[12:02] <gordonjcp> wubi should have been quietly taken out back and given the purple injection a long time ago
[12:02] <BluesKaj> wubi isn't a real install, VM would be better
[12:03] <gordonjcp> Bishika: does it show up as an audio device when you plug it in?
[12:03] <gordonjcp> BluesKaj: definitely
[12:03] <I-am-Groot> Wait... so there isnt wubi in the latest iso?
[12:03] <gordonjcp> nope
[12:03] <gordonjcp> well, maybe, I don't know, I've never used it and never recommended it
[12:03] <Bishika> No infact it only powers on after a restart now then shuts off and stays shut off if i switch ports
[12:03] <gordonjcp> Bishika: anything helpful in dmesg?
[12:04] <I-am-Groot> Yea...but when bootable usb of ubuntu is made, wubi.exe is the program that loads ubuntu at boot
[12:04] <I-am-Groot> Or?? Correct me if am wring
[12:04] <I-am-Groot> wrong*
[12:04] <gordonjcp> .exe is a windows thing
[12:05] <I-am-Groot> oookay
[12:05] <bekks> And wubi.exe has nothing to do with booting off an USB device.
[12:05] <BluesKaj> wrimg therte' no wubi in any ubuntu iso/images period
[12:06]  * BluesKaj reaches for his glasses, again
[12:06] <I-am-Groot> Anyway, thanks for all your help.. I will download Ubuntu 64bit and clean install and see if my crash vanishes
[12:07] <I-am-Groot> Catch y'all later
[12:09] <Bishika> gordonjcp i'm not sure what i'm looking for it doesn't show up as a device in lsusb i'll have another look through and see if it logged it's first try to start up i'm just not sure whatthe device is called
[12:09] <gordonjcp> if it doesn't show up as a device in lsusb it may not be working correctly or it may not be supported
[12:09] <gordonjcp> Bishika: has it ever worked?
[12:10] <Bishika> gordonjcp yes it did just before i reverted my graphics drivers so i'm wondering if i removed something in the process
[12:10] <gordonjcp> Bishika: it's possible
[12:10] <gordonjcp> weird that it doesn't show up at all in lsusb
[12:10] <gordonjcp> what happens in dmesg when you plug it in?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> Bishika:  which audio chip /
[12:12] <Bishika> doesn't log indmesg anymore it may after the first startup thats the only time it visably powers on before it shuts off is their a way to re initiate all devices without logingoff?
[12:12] <Bishika> And i'm not sure what audio chip it uses
[12:12] <gordonjcp> Bishika: that's really weird
[12:12] <yeahokay> Hi all. I have a permissions problem with Deluge. I want to set up a Thin Client on my Ubuntu Server. Deluge is installed, and running correctly. I can connect to it via WebUI. But I can't seem to detect it from my Windows PC. My microserver has dual nics, and both are configured to run to separate routers. Currently, all traffic is being sent through EM2 (192.168.1.1). Any advice as to how I can troubleshoot this would be greatly 
[12:13] <gordonjcp> Bishika: it *has* to show up in dmesg when you plug it in and unplug it
[12:13] <gordonjcp> Bishika: unless it's actually properly faulty
[12:13] <Bishika> I could try a relog and plug it in last to make thedmesg easier to find i guess
[12:13] <Bishika> works on the computer next to me
[12:14] <gordonjcp> Bishika: tail -f /var/log/syslog
[12:14] <Bishika> i'll relog and catch the message then come back brb
[12:14] <gordonjcp> and see what happens
[12:14] <Bishika> oh ok i'll try that first
[12:15] <Bishika> Idisconnected the other devicesand this is all it outputs Jan  9 20:07:27 SSG6 kernel: [ 1571.568317] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
[12:15] <Bishika> Jan  9 20:07:27 SSG6 kernel: [ 1571.569570] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found
[12:15] <Bishika> Jan  9 20:07:27 SSG6 kernel: [ 1571.569576] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[12:15] <Bishika> Jan  9 20:07:27 SSG6 kernel: [ 1571.586011]  sdb: sdb1
[12:15] <Bishika> Jan  9 20:07:27 SSG6 kernel: [ 1571.590455] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[12:15] <Bishika> Jan  9 20:07:27 SSG6 udisksd[2728]: Mounted /dev/sdb1 at /media/shauns/ESD-USB on behalf of uid 1000
[12:17] <gordonjcp> yeah
[12:17] <gordonjcp> you're going to want a pastebin for that
[12:18] <Bishika> http://pastebin.com/d56HpZi4
[12:18] <Bishika> pasted it into the chat instead of pastebin before lol
[12:21] <Skyrider> Meh
[12:21] <Skyrider> just installed ubuntu, installed a few things (mono 4.x), and "user accounts" through system settings is crashing.
[12:21] <Skyrider> on 15.10
[12:24] <Bishika> gordonjcp i'll go try to log it brb i'll atleast find out the device info
[12:25] <yang> Hi ! I would like to disable the wireless on my device, someone has suggested "rfkill" for this purpose, but it seems I am unable to use it http://paste.debian.net/362860/
[12:26] <bekks> yang: rfkill isnt a kernel module.
[12:26] <lucifer> ....
[12:27] <Guest97786> ,,,
[12:27] <yang> that person sugested it could be a module, so I modprobed it
[12:27] <Honigmelone> Hi all does any of you guys know how to start a phython script with rc.local. I have some issues with it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/717438/launching-a-python-script-from-rc-local-fails-to-connect-to-x-server
[12:27] <bekks> yang: that person has no clue.
[12:27] <meles> I'm havi problems with my wifi connections. The first few seconds it works fine, than it gets really slow. I'm not sure if its the new wifi router or if there is an issue with my settings in ubuntu. This is what dmesg returns: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14446384/
[12:28] <cristian_c> hello
[12:28] <yang> bekks: rfkill list should be able to list devices
[12:28] <cristian_c> I've installed psensor
[12:28] <bekks> yang: rfkill is a command, not a kernel module.
[12:29] <Guest97786> psensor?
[12:31] <cristian_c> When the laptop resumes from suspend/standby, a pop-up window appears: 'authentication' 'it's needed authenticating to update smart data from wdc .... (/dev/sda)'
[12:31] <mazak> meles, wifi restart, wifi off, wifi on
[12:31] <cristian_c> how could I prevent this request every time?
[12:31] <mazak> execute a speed test, and verify only via LAN
[12:32] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[12:32] <meles> mazak, doesnt help. Or do you mean on the router
[12:32] <Bishika> gordonjcp I'm back it still doesn't show in lsusb but now it is recieving power and I managed to catch this
[12:32] <mazak> console, on your pc
[12:32] <Bishika> [   26.070966] <6>[fglrx] ATIF platform detected with notification ID: 0x81
[12:32] <Bishika> [   26.280204] <6>[fglrx] ATIF platform detected with notification ID: 0x81
[12:32] <Bishika> [   96.146938] usb 4-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using ohci-pci
[12:32] <Bishika> [   96.407134] ohci-pci 0000:00:12.0: frame counter not updating; disabled
[12:32] <Bishika> [   96.407150] ohci-pci 0000:00:12.0: HC died; cleaning up
[12:33] <meles> mazak: connection inside the LAN also is very slow
[12:33] <mazak> well it's your internet connection which is slow
[12:33] <meles> mazak: via eth0 everything works fine
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Bishika: you need to be using pastebin there
[12:34] <gordonjcp> Bishika: also if it's detected at all it needs to be showing up in lsusb
[12:34] <Bishika> gordonjcp sorry http://pastebin.com/hCmQgmCi
[12:34] <gordonjcp> I mean have you tried doing lsusb before and after plugging it in?
[12:35] <Bishika> well it's led is blinking so it has power but it's not showing up by anything i recognise
[12:35] <gordonjcp> pull it out, do "lsusb", put it in, do "lsusb", compare the two
[12:36] <Bishika> it's just listing the usb hubs and somehing from chicony electronics that was there before i plugged it in
[12:37] <Bishika> gordonjcp exactly the same
[12:37] <meles> mazak: have you got any clue if the dmesg output is ok like this?
[12:38] <gordonjcp> Bishika: it can't be
[12:38] <gordonjcp> Bishika: unless the device is faulty and is not accepting enumeration
[12:40] <gordonjcp> Bishika: I need to go and unscrew bits of Landrover now.  I hope you get to the bottom of it.
[12:44] <link0802> Any panel indicator for Unity DE in ubuntu 15.10 for fast change volume of one application? (I can change it through settings - sound - application, but it to long way)
[12:46] <Bishika> gordonjcp sorry had to go answer a phone thanks for the help
[12:46] <ioria> link0802, " Show sound volume in the menu bar "
[12:46] <Bishika> Now that i'veplugged it back in tho it's not recieving any power now like last time
 this help to change "main" volume of all system. I want indicator that can change volume for separate application. But thnx :)
[12:49] <BluesKaj> Bishika:  I have to ask, is there an on/off switch on the headset?
[12:51] <Bishika> Yes but it's a wireless headset so the usb needs power to show up
[12:51] <Bishika> i'm thinking of doing another restart to get it power and try see if it has an output in pactl list cards
[12:51] <ali_> hi
[12:52] <ali_> guys
[12:52] <ali_> a question
[12:52] <ali_> can I write persian comments in foxitreader on ubuntu?
[12:52] <link0802> ioria: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3233846/volume_ubuntu1510.png like this, but indicator) Gnome shell have such extension, but for Unity I can't find any app/indicator or so.
[12:52] <wangbicong> what?
[12:57] <link0802> Any panel indicator for Unity DE in ubuntu 15.10 that can fast change volume of one application? (I can change it through settings - sound - application, but it too long way) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3233846/volume_ubuntu1510.png like this, but indicator) Gnome shell have such extension, but for Unity I can't find any app/indicator or so.
[12:57] <Skyrider> Anyone has a good teamviewer alternative?
[12:58] <Skyrider> Its connecting just fine with my ubuntu machine, but its refusing to update the screen on my end, while the mouse moves on ubuntu.
[12:58] <anonymous287> hello
[12:58] <Skyrider> hi
[12:58] <yeahokay> Hi all. I recently set up the dual Nics on my Ubunutu microserver to direct to different routers. At some point, I've managed to lose my ability to connect to the server with Filezilla, which is bizarre, because I can still ssh into the server. Could someone please suggest how I can go about troubleshooting this?
[12:59] <Skyrider> ftp or sftp?
[12:59] <yeahokay> um
[12:59] <yeahokay> ftp
[12:59] <Skyrider> Not much familiar with the direct to different routers though.
[13:00] <Skyrider> But I assume the (s)ftp server you are using is rejecting the connection?
[13:00] <yeahokay> econnrefused - connection refused by server is the error that pops up
[13:00] <yeahokay> yes
[13:00] <anonymous287> i have a problem whith metasploit in ubuntu, when i start it with "msfconsole"  i have an error message,
[13:00] <yeahokay> I can ssh in. Plex, deluge, subsonic services are all accessible.
[13:00] <yeahokay> but not filezilla for some reason
[13:00] <anonymous287> [-] Failed to connect to the database: FATAL:  password authentication failed for user "msf"FATAL:  password authentication failed for user "msf"
[13:01] <auctus> does anybody know what voice espeak fails to when you tell it to use mbrola voice when mbrola isnt installed? Its cool sounding, its not the default one
[13:01] <Skyrider> anonymous287: I assume its because it failed to login with msf, using a wrong password.
[13:02] <Skyrider> yeahokay ssh should work fine, as ftp is quite different.
[13:02] <Skyrider> Happen to know what (s)ftp server software you are running?
[13:03] <anonymous287> how to solve this problem?
 With the dmesg i managed to get hc died means to turns it off right?
[13:04] <Bishika> Anyway i'll try to get the list brb
[13:04] <Skyrider> anonymous287 sorry. I'm not familiar with the software.
[13:04] <BluesKaj> Bishika:  or something turned it off or timed out
[13:05] <anonymous287> ok thanks skyrider
[13:05] <Skyrider> Did it used to work anonymous287?
[13:10] <marcosscriven> Does anyone know how to tell if an internal SD card reader is capable of USB 3 speeds?
[13:10] <bazhang> ##hardware marcosscriven
[13:11] <marcosscriven> using lsusb -t, if I plug a USB2 device into a UBS3 devices, that device still shows up on the USB2 root hub.
[13:11] <marcosscriven> sorry, into a USB 3 port
[13:21] <Bishika> I'm back for anyone following my issue about the wireless headset usb not working I just rebooted with the device still inserted to get the pactl output when it powered on and it is now picked up by the sound device menu and is working properly BUT it doesn't show up in pactl list devices properly but it does show up as 2 devices in lsusb now "corsair" and since its atheros bluetooth I'm assuming that's the usb Thaksfor the help and later on
[13:21] <Bishika> i'll probably try to find the reason for it
[13:24] <Skyrider>  .... ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
[13:24] <Skyrider> Ugh...
[13:32] <meles> I'm havin troubles with my wifi router (or some settings on ubuntu). I already posted a question about it before. Now my question is: is it normal that a ping to the router takes more than 1600ms. In a browser window I'm streaming a low resolution film at the same time
[13:33] <seemcfly> hi
[13:33] <seemcfly> ubuntu came across a program problem i reported it
[13:33] <seemcfly> is there anything else i need to do for that ?
[13:33] <seemcfly> it was after i did updates
[13:33] <cfhowlett> seemcfly, "reported" = filed a bug report??
[13:33] <seemcfly> button said "report problem"
[13:34] <cfhowlett> then you've done your duty
[13:34] <seemcfly> also
[13:34] <seemcfly> Sorry ubuntu 14.04 has experienced and internal error
[13:34] <seemcfly> "send an error report to help fix this problem"
[13:34] <seemcfly> do i just click contiue ?
[13:35] <seemcfly> yes/no ?
[13:35] <cfhowlett> I was waiting for you to think this through ... what happens if you do NOT click?
[13:35] <seemcfly> oh sorry
[13:36] <seemcfly> im new to ubuntu
[13:36] <seemcfly> guess it fixes itself
[13:36] <cfhowlett> nope.
[13:36] <anonymous287> sudo su   bash: /root/.rvm/scripts/rvm: no file or folder type     ( and my account is on root)
[13:36] <cfhowlett> if it's a problem, that means ubuntu cannot fix it
[13:37] <anonymous287> have you any idea to solve my problem
[13:38] <anonymous287> i write  sudo su  and i ll have  bash: /root/.rvm/scripts/rvm: no file or folder type     ( and my account is on root)
[13:39] <marcosscriven> Does anyone know how to tell whether an internal SD card reader is capable of USB3 speeds? I can't seem to tell with lsusb, as if I plug in a USB 2 device to a USB 3 port, it still shows up as connected to the USB2 root hub.
[13:39] <uizidoit> Mint seems better.
[13:40] <Skyrider> marcosscriven
[13:40] <bazhang> marcosscriven, thats a ##hardware issue as previouly said
[13:40] <vetsin_> Hi! I have been using ubuntu for some time now and never was a fan of the unity interface so I decided to install Ubuntu MATE on my new laptop. Now surprisingly I found that I actually like unity over MATE and would like to switch to regular Ubuntu from Ubuntu MATE. Can somebody point me to the best set of instructions out there? Thanks!
[13:40] <vetsin_> It's dual boot set-up with Windows 10 btw. Thanks!
[13:40] <uizidoit> marcosscriven: upload a big file and see the spedd
[13:40] <uizidoit> marcosscriven: upload a big file and see the speed
[13:40] <Skyrider> I am not sure, but maybe thats because it acts as a USB 2, seeing you connected a usb 2.
[13:40] <Skyrider> Its backcompatible, so that might be the reason.. tried a USB 3 device?
[13:42] <uizidoit> marcosscriven: if the file upload speed hovers around 1mbps it's usb2.
[13:42] <Skyrider> Isnt USB 2 faster than 1.
[13:44] <uizidoit> marcosscriven: maybe usb hubs do slow down every port if one usb2 is connected
[13:44] <uizidoit> Skyrider: maybe 2mbps
[13:45] <Skyrider> I wish I could throw mysql/mariadb out the window..
[13:45] <Skyrider> God when stuff are not working I'm getting annoyed -_-
[13:46] <akik> anonymous287: does "sudo su -" fix your problem?
[13:46] <anonymous287> akik no
[13:48] <sneke> I'm not very experienced with Ubuntu, but I installed http://llvm.org/apt/ on a Precise system (Travis CI, to be exact), so the system has got v3.8 and v3.4 at the same time. CMake uses v3.4 as default, so I need to export the v3.8 compiler. How do I get the path? Is it just called clang[++]-3.8?
[13:49] <uizidoit> sneke: Skyrider says he wants your hairy ass on his face
[13:49] <Skyrider> uizidoit: Please stop being idiotic..
[13:49] <Skyrider> or I'll copy paste what you said to me in private chat
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, don't
[13:49] <cfhowlett> Skyrider, report abuse to #ubuntu-ops
[13:50] <bazhang> hes gone
[13:50] <Skyrider> ty.
[13:50] <cfhowlett> thank you bazhang
[13:50] <bazhang> Skyrider, please keep the chat ontopic here
[13:50] <Skyrider> ey :( he's gone isn't ontopic :p
[13:51] <bazhang> pardon?
[13:51] <Skyrider> nvm
[13:58] <BradenBraden> hey guys. just got me a new Asus laptop. Want to dual boot it with linux. tried starting up an ubuntu 14.04 live image but the resolution is terribly small and I have no mouse support. I tried with fedora too and it says "looks like BOOT_IMAGE=/isolinux/vmlinuz0 crashed". no idea what to do
[13:58] <mistralol> in 15.10 in gnome-terminal where did the menu option "New Tag" go? it only seems to have new terminal
[13:58] <sneke> Nevermind my issue, I fixed it (it was called clang[++]3.8
[13:59] <cfhowlett> BradenBraden, boot it up.  at the grub screen, select the first option "try ubuntu without installing".  once booted, go into display and change resolution
[14:00] <sneke> Is there any ppa that provides the latest Boost C++ libraries (1.60.0 as of now)?
[14:01] <bazhang> do a search of the ppa sneke thats not support here
[14:02] <BradenBraden> cfhowlett, but no mouse support?
[14:02] <BradenBraden> thats a new one for me
[14:02] <cfhowlett> BradenBraden, sorry, missed that detail
[14:03] <BradenBraden> i can only imagine there is something fooey with the hardware / bios settings or something
[14:03] <BradenBraden> if it was just ubuntu then fine, but ubuntu and fedora?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> BradenBraden, ask #fedora for fedora support.  not here.
[14:04] <BradenBraden> im not asking for fedora specific support. like i said, fedora AND ubuntu.
[14:05] <Murii> Hey!
[14:05] <Murii> How can I install Qt community IDE?
[14:05] <Murii> from terminal I mean
[14:05] <BradenBraden> apt-get install qt5 ?
[14:05] <bazhang> which version Murii
[14:05] <Murii> it does not matter.Note I dont need the GUI lib qt but the IDE
[14:05] <Murii> http://www.qt.io/download/#Licence-anchor
[14:05] <Murii> this one
[14:06] <anonymous287> please can you tell me why gedit has this black frame around ?   http://postimg.org/image/o9zrwqjgd/
[14:06] <Murii> I tried doing chmod +x qt.run ./qt.run but it gives me an error
[14:06] <Murii> cannot execute binary file: Exec format error
[14:16] <pacmyc> Cant boot after update 14.04 --> 15.04, "systemctl status lightdm.service" gives me "Failed to start Light Display Manager." any ideas?
[14:17] <subins2000> Hooy, look at this : https://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-fcs-1604/discuss/72157663174318232/
[14:17] <BluesKaj> pacmyc: lightdm on a systemd controlled OS?
[14:18] <pacmyc> BluesKaj sorry don't get that
[14:18] <pacmyc> BluesKaj Im using the desktop version of Ubuntu 32 bit
[14:19] <BluesKaj> pacmyc:  how did you upgrade to 15.04 from 14.04?
[14:19] <pacmyc> via system settings --> updates
[14:20] <pacmyc> BluesKaj via system settings --> updates
[14:20] <BluesKaj> pacmyc:  you should have backed up your data and done a clean install
[14:20] <PauloHNeves> which heavier, ubuntu or kubuntu
[14:21] <pacmyc> BluesKaj: I have my data backed up but I'd prefer not having to do all the configurations from scratch
[14:21] <pacmyc> Blueskaj: So disupgrade from 14.x to 15.x is not recommended?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> pacmyc:  / and /home partitions ?
[14:22] <pacmyc> BluesKaj: dual boot system with win7
[14:22] <BluesKaj> pacmyc:  not recommended, correct
[14:23] <pacmyc> It didn't say anything about that in the release notes :S So in the future, where could I find info about which version are upgradeable?
[14:24] <BluesKaj>  pacmyc altho 14.10 EOL , a clean install is always the method to use when skipping releases
[14:25] <pacmyc> BluesKaj: ok thanks.
[14:27] <Linuxn00b> Hello - I am having some trouble getting Headphones.py to work - It seems to want to run on a port that is being used by something else - but I can't figure out what is using it nor can I change the port in Headphones.py config file - anyone have any ideas?
[14:28] <Linuxn00b> It's on Ubuntu Server - not desktop
[14:31] <BluesKaj> pacmyc:  I recommend using a / (root) and /home partitions for Linux OSs.Then you can just instll the OS to / and set the mountpoint of /home in the installer/partitioner using manual partitioninmg. This saves all your config files and keeps restructuring your new install to a minimum.
[14:31] <Linuxn00b> When I try to start it it says - Failed to start on IPADDRESS:8181 Is something else running?
[14:31] <Linuxn00b> What runs on 8181?
[14:32] <pacmyc> BluesKaj: ok
[14:34] <BluesKaj> pacmyc:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installseparatehome
[14:35] <Linuxn00b> I FIXED IT!!!!
[14:35] <Linuxn00b> My google fu is very strong
[14:35] <Linuxn00b> lol
[14:36] <Linuxn00b> Could I get some help setting up some automation on my ubuntu server
[14:37] <bazhang> #ubuntu-server Linuxn00b
[14:37] <Linuxn00b> I want to do two things - ensure that Headphones.py starts at start up (should this be done via a cron job?)  also I want my server to connect to a VPN I've already created using pppd, but I want it to do that at start up and check every let's say - 5 minutes to see if connection has dropped and if it has, reconnect
[14:38] <Linuxn00b> Currently I have to launch the vpn by issuing:  sudo pppd call 'VPNCONNECTIONAME'
[14:38] <Linuxn00b> Also I have an external USB drive that seems to unmount itself
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Linuxn00b:  is this one of those free vpn servers or a paid ?
[14:39] <Linuxn00b> I pay for it
[14:39] <Linuxn00b> It's SlickVPN, it comes with my Usenet sub
[14:39] <pacmyc> BluesKaj: I got it running now but it has replaced a lot the configurations. Another question; I dont like the thunar-file browser that is included, i really want pcmanfm instead. Is there any way to have it completelt replaced?
[14:40] <Linuxn00b> I guess the other question is why do I have to call the VPN connection using root?
[14:40] <marlinc> How large does a EFI partition need to be?
[14:41] <Linuxn00b> It will fail if I don't when I run with the debug switch it never passes the CHAP key
[14:41] <Linuxn00b> brb
[14:41] <Linuxn00b> need water
[14:41] <BluesKaj> then why pppd, openvpn is much more stable and easy to manage
[14:43] <BluesKaj> pacmyc:  sorry i don't know much about the Xfce desktop/apps
[14:43] <pacmyc> BluesKaj  OK
[14:43] <gnom> hi all how to convert ktx to jpg image. thanks
[14:44] <anonymous287> please can you tell me why gedit has this black frame around ?  this is my screenshot http://postimg.org/image/o9zrwqjgd/
[14:44] <Linuxn00b> BlueKaj - I would not be against OpenVPN but I'm new to ubuntu server
[14:45] <Linuxn00b> Do I need to install the pkg?
[14:46] <Linuxn00b> Ok I am going to play with it
[14:46] <Linuxn00b> I'll be back in here with questions if I can't figure it out
[14:46] <BluesKaj> depeneds whether your server supports openvp, check with them first
[14:47] <cfhowlett> gnom, imagemakick
[14:47] <cfhowlett> imagemagick
[14:48] <BluesKaj> openvpn and network-manager-openvpn need to be installed on your pc, Linuxn00b, if your server supports it
[14:48] <Linuxn00b> BluesKaj - I remember why I didn't do OpenVPN before
[14:49] <Linuxn00b> I didn't want my fileserver/media server to be a VPN server I just wanted it to connect to a VPN server when downloading....
[14:49] <gnom> no decode delegate for this image format `KTX'
[14:50] <gnom> not work ktx sorry
[14:50] <Linuxn00b> But on a side note BluesKaj - how can I test if updates will hose my server?
[14:50] <gnom> https://www.khronos.org/opengles/sdk/tools/KTX/
[14:50] <Linuxn00b> Is the only way via a virtual box where I've cloned the server?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Linuxn00b:  yes, your pc just connects as a client
[14:50] <gnom> this not compile
[14:50] <gnom> compile errors
[14:51] <Linuxn00b> Ok I installed those two packages - but I'm rebooting to see if my headphones.py starts automatically like I just set it to
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Linuxn00b:  I didn't mean your file server connects to the vpn , just the pc
[14:52] <gnom>  :)  ✯╾━━デ╦︻✯
[14:52] <Linuxn00b> Oh ok I see
[14:53] <Linuxn00b> BlueKaj - what do you do for having a windows box?  I recently converted all my machines except for 1 laptop to linux
[14:53] <bouffant> Hi Can I get some help please?
[14:54] <Linuxn00b> BluesKaj - but I'd like to have some sort of virtual solution for windows and get rid of the last windows bnox
[14:54] <bouffant> My laptop had a kernel panic I think it said and i can't get past grub
[14:56] <Linuxn00b> bouffant - can you go into recovery mode
[14:56] <bouffant> I think it stored too many kernels, is that a thing?
[14:56] <bouffant> yes I can
[14:56] <bouffant> but I can't type anything once I am there
[14:56] <Linuxn00b> bouffant - I read there's a way to delete older kernels
[14:57] <Linuxn00b> bouffant - I'm not a very good linux guy I'm sorry bouffant - but I will try to help, any other information yu can give me so I can google
[14:57] <Linuxn00b> bouffant - I am trying to learn linux lol
[14:58] <giby> Hi, I'm from supertax dev team. we released some weeks ago the new stable version, can anyone packed it?
[14:58] <bouffant> is there a more active support channel?
[14:59] <derenir> the qt ide is called qtcreator sudo apt-get
[14:59] <Muh2> Hi, I have a usb wi-fi adapter model TP-LINK TL-WN725N and need to install in Ubuntu 15.10. I plugged it in and nothing happened and no wi-fi was detected. I think drivers are needed, where can i get them?
[14:59] <Muh2> any help?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> bouffant: I missed your question
[15:01] <bouffant> that's ok My laptop won't start up, I'm not used to this grub malarky, recovery mode doesn't work but I can press c to go into command mode but I'm not used to grub
[15:01] <pacmyc> Muh2: Im not an expert but I would start by rinning lsusb in the terminal to see if the hardware is found
[15:01] <pacmyc> running
[15:01] <BluesKaj> Muh2:  which wifi chip? I have a TP-LInk WDR 3600 and the wifi works great with broadcom chip
[15:02] <Muh2> BluesKaj: I'm using it on the desktop, what do you mean by which chip?
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Muh2:  wifi chip
[15:05] <BluesKaj> it's not the router that needs a driver , it's your wifi chip[ on your laptop/pc that needs it
[15:05] <BluesKaj> Muh2: ^
[15:05] <Muh2> BluesKaj: I thought this adapter takes place of the wifi chip, otherwise I have Realtek wireless network adapter.
[15:05] <bouffant> how do i write to specific people?
[15:06] <pacmyc> Muh2 the wifi chip is inside the USB device :)
[15:06] <doomwhisp> Is it bad to use Synaptic instead of Ubuntu Software Center on Ubuntu?
[15:06] <Muh2> pacmyc: ok, now I get it
[15:06] <Mathisen> doomwhisp, no
[15:06] <BluesKaj> doomwhisp:  synaptic is great
[15:07] <pacmyc> Muh2: open a terminal and type lsusb
[15:07] <bouffant> BluesKaj: My laptop won't start up, I'm not used to this grub malarky, recovery mode doesn't work but I can press c to go into command mode but I'm not used to grub
[15:07] <Muh2> pacmyc: I run lsusb, and did not find anything related to the usb wifi adapter
[15:07] <BluesKaj> bouffant:  so your getting a grub menu ?
[15:08] <bouffant> BluesKaj: yes
[15:08] <pacmyc> Muh2: wifi usb devices need quite much power. Is it directly connected to the pc or via a hub? Do you have any other powerhungry devices connected via usb?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> what happens when you choose ubuntu in the grub menu , bouffant?
[15:09] <Muh2> pacmyc: no it's connected directly to the front panel usb port of the desktop, let me try the back ports
[15:10] <bouffant> BluesKaj: A lot of stationary text with no way of me typing or reading it all
[15:10] <computer> BOTSERV
[15:10] <bouffant> BluesKaj: same if i try recovery mode
[15:10] <pacmyc> Muh2: after trying the other USB-ports try running lshw to see if it picks up anything related to the device.. Otherwize Im clueless
[15:10] <computer> ciao a tutti
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Muh2: what brand the USB wifi stick ?
[15:11] <Fuchs> computer: hi, you need help with something?
[15:11] <computer> film
[15:11] <Muh2> BluesKaj: TP-Link
[15:11] <computer> come faccio a scaricare che voce devo mettere
[15:11] <Muh2> BluesKaj: model no: TL-WN725N
[15:12] <BluesKaj> Muh2:  oh , I thought your router was TP-Link, sorry
[15:13] <Muh2> BluesKaj: Yes it is, TP-Link TL-WN725N
[15:14] <pacmyc> Muh2: did u try a google search?? https://askubuntu.com/questions/381574/drivers-for-tp-link-tl-wn725n-nano-usb-wireless-n-adapter
[15:15] <computer> topic
[15:15] <computer> #topic
[15:15] <computer> film
[15:15] <cristian_c> ?
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Muh2: or this  http://brilliantlyeasy.com/ubuntu-linux-tl-wn725n-tp-link-version-2-wifi-driver-install/
[15:16] <BluesKaj> most TP-Link products are very linux friendly devices
[15:17] <bouffant> Is there a better time to get support or a better support channel? Or should I just reinstall ubuntu?
[15:18] <cristian_c> bouffant: ?
[15:18] <ikonia> bouffant: what's your issue
[15:18] <ikonia> there is no "better time", just ask and if people can help they will
[15:18] <bouffant> cristian_c: yes My computer won't start
[15:18] <bouffant> I can get to grub
[15:19] <ikonia> what happens exactly
[15:19] <bouffant> If i select ubuntu i get a lot of stationary text that I can't read all of or type either
[15:20] <bouffant> if i select another kernel or recovery mode i get the same
[15:20] <EriC^^> bouffant: what's the text about? like in general
[15:21] <bouffant> Oh i feel silly now, I just tried a different kernel in recovery mode and it worked
[15:21] <Muh2> BluesKaj, pacmyc: I think the front usb port has some problems, tried the back port and it works
[15:21] <Muh2> thanks
[15:22] <lubuntu> hello there, do you guys know if lynx has an irc/
[15:22] <lubuntu> ?
[15:22] <bouffant> It's now saying the volume boot has 0 bytes remaining
[15:22] <pacmyc> Muh2 OK, good.. Yes front ports often have problems for some reason
[15:22] <EriC^^> bouffant: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:22] <cfhowlett> bouffant, you need to clean out old kernels
[15:23] <bouffant> Eric: what does that do?
[15:24] <EriC^^> list the kernels
[15:24] <bouffant> cfhowlett: how do i do that? With erics command?
[15:24] <cfhowlett> bouffant, do eric's command... I'm going silent
[15:24] <EriC^^> and give you a link to a paste
[15:25] <BluesKaj> Muh2: good to hear:-)
[15:25] <bouffant2> EriC^^: It's me again could you tell me that command again?
[15:26] <EriC^^> bouffant: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:26] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Thanks
[15:26] <alexutzu01x> hi
[15:27] <alexutzu01x> anyone  here
[15:27] <alexutzu01x> ?
[15:27] <Linuxn00b> Hello
[15:27] <bouffant2> EriC^^: I just got a web addresss
[15:27] <cfhowlett> alexutzu01x, ask your ubuntu questions
[15:27] <alexutzu01x> hi there
[15:27] <Linuxn00b> Anyone know how to troubleshoot a USB drive randomly unmounting
[15:27] <EriC^^> bouffant2: paste it here
[15:27] <alexutzu01x> just started with this chat and  automated connect me  here
[15:27] <alexutzu01x> so nice to meet you anyway
[15:28] <bouffant2> http://termbin.com/mcah
[15:28] <alexutzu01x> do you know  some  python  channeld
[15:28] <alexutzu01x> channels?
[15:28] <bouffant2> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/mcah
[15:28] <cfhowlett> !alis | alexutzu01x,
[15:28] <Linuxn00b> Also - Anyone know how to get my own legit SSL cert so all my HTTPS services stop yelling about self-signed certs
[15:28] <EriC^^> bouffant2: which kernel are you using right now?
[15:29] <alexutzu01x> oh  yes I have a  ubuntu question, how  can I  make   my station  to  show  other ip
[15:29] <alexutzu01x> ?
[15:30] <bouffant2> EriC^^: 3.13.0-67-generic
[15:31] <EriC^^> bouffant2: type uname -r
[15:31] <bouffant2> EriC^^: 3.13.0-67-generic
[15:31] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-32-generic
[15:32] <bouffant2> EriC^^: remove my current kernel?
[15:32] <EriC^^> no
[15:32] <alexutzu01x> seems like a lot  fo  friendly  people  here
[15:32] <alexutzu01x> :D
[15:33] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok lol
[15:33] <alexutzu01x> :D
[15:33] <cfhowlett> alexutzu01x, this is the technical support channel.  chit chat belongs in #ubun.tu-offtopic.  thank you
[15:33] <cfhowlett> !ot | alexutzu01x
[15:35] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Now it is warning me that the boot only has 9.6Mb remaining, which is a step in the right direction, but I think the other kernels are still on there
[15:36] <Murii> can someone help me out with this simple instalation>
[15:36] <Murii> http://www.pasteall.org/63281
[15:36] <EriC^^> bouffant2: ok, try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-{61,62,63,65,66}-generic
[15:38] <Linuxn00b> I want to have my Media Server connect to a paid VPN everytime it boots and also stay connected to this VPN, can anyone suggest anything
[15:38] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Yes that looks like it got rid of all of them
[15:38] <BluesKaj> Murii:  place a / after ~/Downloads
[15:38] <Murii> ok
[15:39] <EriC^^> bouffant2: ok, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-extra-3.13.0-67-generic
[15:39] <EriC^^> bouffant2: that's the -extra package not like the ones before
[15:40] <randomnick> I made a custom .desktop file to execute a custom script
[15:40] <randomnick> I dropped it on the launcher
[15:40] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok looks like there's two of them on there now
[15:40] <randomnick> when clicking it, it works
[15:40] <randomnick> but it blinks a very long time
[15:41] <EriC^^> bouffant2: try sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.13.0-68-generic
[15:41] <randomnick> executing the script from a terminal is very fast
[15:41] <randomnick> does anyone have a clue what might cause this?
[15:41] <Murii> BluesKaj: I get the same error :(
[15:42] <alexutzu01x> do you know  how cand I register on a channel
[15:42] <alexutzu01x> ?
[15:44] <cfhowlett> !register | alexutzu01x
[15:44] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok I have done that
[15:44] <BluesKaj> Murii:  which tutorial are you following ?
[15:44] <Murii> none
[15:44] <BluesKaj> post the url
[15:44] <Murii> http://www.qt.io/download/#Licence-anchor
[15:44] <EriC^^> bouffant2: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[15:44] <alexutzu01x> tnks
[15:45] <Linuxn00b> BluesKaj - do you know how to I can get a legit SSL cert so my services stop yelling about my self signed certs
[15:45] <Linuxn00b> I own a domain
[15:45] <Linuxn00b> but don't have a DNS server set up with it or anything
[15:45] <Linuxn00b> not yet
[15:45] <ikonia> purcahse one
[15:45] <ikonia> there are many SSL providers
[15:45] <Linuxn00b> Are they expensive
[15:45] <ikonia> then don't buy one and the site will complain for self signed certs
[15:46] <Linuxn00b> I asked if they are expensive
[15:46] <alexutzu01x> tnks
[15:46] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: look on the sites that sell them
[15:46] <ikonia> prices vary from different people
[15:46] <Linuxn00b> Is it worth it?
[15:46] <BluesKaj> Murii: click on the run file
[15:46] <ikonia> thats up to you to decide
[15:47] <Schalla> Hello! I am running atm a Kubuntu 15.10 and want to install on my Poweredge T20 a Ubuntu Server, which should be booted from a USB stick. Now I know how to create a bootable USB stick, but is there a way to install ubuntu itself from this PC that the stick is bootable and already the OS itself?
[15:47] <Linuxn00b> Is the only benefit that my services wont complain
[15:47] <ikonia> no
[15:47] <robotdevil1> Hey if I image a drive using dd to say myimage.img can I run scans on it as well?
[15:47] <ikonia> it's a trusted security chain
[15:47] <ikonia> robotdevil1: no
[15:47] <cfhowlett> Schalla, do you have the ubuntu .iso?
[15:47] <Murii> BluesKaj: I get nothing
[15:47] <Murii> while executing it
[15:47] <Schalla> cfhowlett: The Ubuntu Server ISO? Yep
[15:47] <cfhowlett> !install | Schalla
[15:47] <extraymond> Hi! Does anyone know how to uninstall intel media studio sdk?
[15:48] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so id have to dedicate a whole drive to the image?
[15:48] <ikonia> robotdevil1: no
[15:48] <Geo> Hello, I'm trying to create a reverse tunnel using "ssh -g -R 192.168.1.150:5000:192.168.180.136:5000 geo@192.168.1.150" However, it is only binding to 127.0.0.1 on the remote host, as opposed to any other valid address I try. Any ideas on what I need to change?
[15:48] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - without it is everything id o susceptible to man in the middle attacks?
[15:48] <robotdevil1> ikonia: just a partition?
[15:48] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: depends how you set it up
[15:48] <Schalla> cfhowlett: Thank you!
[15:48] <cfhowlett> Schalla, ask the #ubuntu-server channel for more.  I think pxe install is your solution
[15:48] <ikonia> robotdevil1: I may have miss-understood your question, can you re-ask it
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Murii:  ok right click on the run file choose properties  and check the make executable box
[15:48] <Schalla> The last link "Install any Linux distro directly from hard disk without burning any DVD" sounds also what I want to do
[15:48] <seemcfly> hey guys
[15:48] <Murii> BluesKaj: I did that
[15:49] <seemcfly> how do i find out what version ubuntu is after i update in the terminal?
[15:49] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - thank ou
[15:49] <randomnick> is this the best place to ask questions about the unity launcher?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Murii:  is this for the wifi driver?
[15:49] <Murii> for coding in C/C++
[15:49] <kvj> ..
[15:49] <robotdevil1> ikonia: I want to image a windows drive to a faster ssd so it doesnt take as long and because I cannot stand being on windows side of my dual boot
[15:49] <BluesKaj> oh, then I have no idea, Murii
[15:50] <Murii> BluesKaj: thanks for trying to help me!
[15:50] <ikonia> robotdevil1: so there are tools to do that, such as clonezilla
[15:50] <oro-uk> sudo ./Buils.sh
[15:50] <robotdevil1> ikonia: but I dont want to dedicate a whole drive to the image
[15:50] <ikonia> robotdevil1: there are setting changes you should make within windows to make it work better with the SSD's
[15:50] <ikonia> robotdevil1: the guys in ##windows can help you with that
[15:50] <kvj> Anyone up to hear me ?
[15:50] <seemcfly> hey robot devil wanna have a fiddle match?
[15:50] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you can image to a partition
[15:50] <ikonia> kvj: we can see you typing
[15:51] <BluesKaj> Murii: sorry guess I go you mixed up with someone else
[15:51] <robotdevil1> ikonia: thats irrelevant
[15:51] <BluesKaj> got
[15:51] <kvj> Got
[15:51] <kvj> I have a problem
[15:51] <ikonia> robotdevil1: what is ?
[15:51] <cfhowlett> !ask | kvj,
[15:51] <kvj> !patience
[15:51] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok that has finished now
[15:52] <kvj> rebooting after installing virtualbox from the software center makes your system fail to boot with "Non system disk or disk-error , replace and strike any key when ready
[15:52] <EriC^^> bouffant2: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:52] <kvj> My
[15:52] <robotdevil1> ikonia: windows ssd settings, I want to know if I use dd to make an image say myimage.iso can I run scans on the image
[15:52] <seemcfly> is there a version command like cmd but for ubuntu?
[15:52] <randomnick> Ok, this is really strange. If I double click on my custom .desktop file it works instantaneously, but in the unity launcher it blinks for more than 5 seconds
[15:52] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you can't scan the image
[15:52] <kvj> rebooting after installing virtualbox from the software center makes my system fail to boot with "Non system disk or disk-error , replace and strike any key when ready
[15:52] <randomnick> in those 5 seconds, I can not click it again...
[15:52] <cfhowlett> kvj, set the os to boot fro the harddisk and stop repeateing
[15:52] <randomnick> kind of annoying
[15:53] <kvj> Sorry
[15:53] <bouffant2> EriC^^: it says use netcat.
[15:53] <Geo> Hello, I'm trying to create a reverse tunnel using "ssh -g -R 192.168.1.150:5000:192.168.180.136:5000 geo@192.168.1.150" However, it is only binding to 127.0.0.1 on the remote host, as opposed to any other valid address I try. Any ideas on what I need to change?
[15:53] <kvj> cfhowlett: it is set to boot from the hdd
[15:53] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so what do I need to do to be able to manipulate the image?
[15:53] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you don't
[15:53] <robotdevil1> ikonia: what !
[15:53] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block by block image, you can't change
[15:54] <cfhowlett> kvj, if so then you installed it wrong.  #vbox for support
[15:54] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block level copy of a device,
[15:54] <robotdevil1> ikonia: what if I dedicate an entire drive
[15:54] <ikonia> what does the size of the drive have to do with anything ?
[15:54] <kvj> Kvj i installed  it from software center
[15:54] <EriC^^> bouffant2: ok, type dpkg -l | grep linux-image and paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[15:54] <JCT500THz> How do I clear sessions from the terminal?
[15:54] <robotdevil1> ikonia: it wouldnt be a .iso
[15:54] <ikonia> no
[15:55] <robotdevil1> ikonia: it would be a clone no?
[15:55] <kvj> cfhowlett: i installed it from software center
[15:55] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it is a block level copy of a device
[15:55] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so why wouldnt i be able to scan it?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> kvj, ?  did not ask but OK.  still, virtualbox is in #vbox
[15:55] <ikonia> robotdevil1: because it's a block level copy of a device
[15:56] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so im sol?
[15:56] <ikonia> robotdevil1: what is the actual problem you are trying to solve
[15:56] <kvj>  Thanks cfhowlett
[15:56] <cfhowlett> happ2help! kvj
[15:56] <robotdevil1> I do not want to stay in windows OS while runnning scans on a slow drive
[15:56] <robotdevil1> ikonia:
[15:56] <kvj>  :)
[15:57] <ikonia> robotdevil1: so move the windows install to a faster disk
[15:57] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok I did that http://paste.ubuntu.com/14447749/
[15:57] <ikonia> robotdevil1: or scan the windows disk from your ubuntu machine
[15:57] <Linuxn00b> ikonia are you familiar with pppd
[15:57] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: yes, why
[15:57] <EriC^^> bouffant2: looks good
[15:57] <Linuxn00b> I have it configured on my server it works when I manually call - but only with root priviledges
[15:58] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Thanks for your help, is there anything else I should try before restarting?
[15:58] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so there is no way to manipulate backups or images?
[15:58] <Linuxn00b> I'd like to start on boot - can you point me in the right direction to troubleshoot these?
[15:58] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: because it's initiating a connection using a physuical device
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: not dd copies
[15:58] <EriC^^> bouffant2: you could install the headers package, they're useful sometimes
[15:58] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - so that is intended?
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: what you are suggesting makes no sense
[15:58] <robotdevil1> ikonia: but to copy them to another drive
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it makes no sense what you are trying to do
[15:58] <ikonia> robotdevil1: just scan the windows disk from your ubuntu install, you don't need to image/back it up
[15:59] <bouffant2> EriC^^: What is the headers package?
[15:59] <EriC^^> bouffant2: you mean what it does or the name of it?
[15:59] <cfhowlett> bouffant, I run this regularly.  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14447770/
[15:59] <bouffant2> EriC^^: both :)
[16:00] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - any suggestions on having pppd call my vpn connection on boot AND maintain it?
[16:00] <bouffant2> thanks cfhowlett
[16:00] <ikonia> Linuxn00b: use network manager and set it as auto start
[16:01] <Linuxn00b> ikonia - does that work from the CLI on ubuntu server?
[16:01] <ikonia> you can use network manager from the command line
[16:01] <EriC^^> bouffant2: it has headers for the kernel that are needed sometimes to compile stuff manually, if you download a source package, or the nvidia packages use it too, linux-headers-generic
[16:02] <robotdevil1> ikonia: i thnk you might be wrong. cant you use dd to make an image then use testdisk against it?
[16:02] <robotdevil1> that would be similar no?
[16:03] <ikonia> robotdevil1: testdisk is a partition tool - and as it's a block by block copy of a device it will have a partition table
[16:03] <ikonia> robotdevil1: if you think I'm wrong - why are you not doing this instead of asking
[16:03] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Ok I'll google the install for that later. Am I safe to restart do you think?
[16:03] <EriC^^> bouffant2: yeah, should be good
[16:03] <EriC^^> :)
[16:03] <ikonia> robotdevil1: and again why do you not just scan your windows file system from the ubuntu install, why are you so specific that you want to scan a backup
[16:03] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: what do you mean by scan?
[16:03] <bouffant2> EriC^^: Thank you so much for your help. Bye.
[16:03] <EriC^^> bouffant2: no problem
[16:04] <EriC^^> bye
[16:04] <robotdevil1> ikonia: because I cant remember the caveets of using dd for sure
[16:04] <ikonia> robotdevil1: so I'm telling you - and you're arguing
[16:04] <ikonia> robotdevil1: why do you not just scan the windows file system from your ubuntu install
[16:05] <robotdevil1> because its a 5200 rpm 2.5 hard disk that is slow as frick
[16:05] <ikonia> so ?
[16:05] <ikonia> copying a dd image scanning it and deleting it will be slower than just scanning the disk
[16:06] <robotdevil1> and I dont want to use all my I/O for 15 hrs
[16:06] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you can limit the I/O
[16:06] <ikonia> so it scans in the background
[16:06] <ikonia> robotdevil1: how big is the disk
[16:06] <robotdevil1> 320 gig
[16:06] <ikonia> that is not going to take 15 hours
[16:07] <robotdevil1> windows there was 990000 files and it took 7 mins to do 10000
[16:08] <ikonia> not sure what your point is
[16:08] <robotdevil1> im tired but I came up with approx 10 + hours
[16:08] <ikonia> it sounds like your making a problem whre one doens't exist
[16:09] <lechien> ^ what millions of men have said to their wives.
[16:09] <EriC^^> i still don't know what you scanning files means?
[16:09] <robotdevil1> wasnt aware trial and error and learing was a problem
[16:09] <robotdevil1> lechien: lmfao
[16:09] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you don't need trial and error
[16:09] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you have a windows and an ubuntu dual boot, correct ?
[16:10] <robotdevil1> yes
[16:10] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu, scan your windows file systme in the background
[16:10] <ikonia> problem solved
[16:10] <EriC^^> what's scan mean?
[16:10] <ikonia> virus
[16:11] <EriC^^> oh
[16:11] <robotdevil1> grayware yes
[16:11] <ikonia> grayware ?
[16:11] <IceNine> hey all, long time lurker of ubuntu and recent (less than 24 hours) of running as primary
[16:11] <lechien> Ware that does stuff that's ethically questionable.
[16:11] <robotdevil1> im gonna smash my keyboard soon. why does it seem like im speaking in tounges
[16:12] <ikonia> robotdevil1: because you are
[16:12] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you're trying to virus scan your windows partition yes/no ?
[16:12] <robotdevil1> yes
[16:12] <yeats> IceNine: welcome! do you have an issue?
[16:12] <lechien> I see his problem, he's running Windows. Format partition, 3 pass DOD wipe.
[16:12] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu run antivirus against windows file system, job done
[16:12] <ikonia> lechien: he's dual booting
[16:13] <IceNine> thanks yeats, not an issue per se, more of a question - is it possible to have one application use a different output/input than the rest of the system?
[16:13] <IceNine> audio output/input i should clarify
[16:14] <IceNine> in windows, there is a default communication device and a "default"  device
[16:14] <robotdevil1> ikonia: my thing is the say I dont put a GUI .img on the image, wont the image just be recognized as a normal drive?
[16:14] <IceNine> so for instance, skype can use my webcam mic and monitor speakers, whereas everything else goes through my headphones
[16:14] <ikonia> robotdevil1: what image ?
[16:14] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu, scan windows file system, you do'nt need an image
[16:14] <lechien> You can virus scan your windows partition from your ubuntu partition assuming your windows partition is not encrypted.
[16:15] <robotdevil1> can I do that to an image ? of any sort?
[16:15] <robotdevil1> appease me here
[16:15] <lechien> If the malicious program is lurking in an encrypted home folder you're SOL.
[16:15] <ikonia> robotdevil1: you don't need an image
[16:15] <ikonia> robotdevil1: stop worrying about image
[16:15] <ikonia> robotdevil1: boot ubuntu, scan windows file system
[16:16] <robotdevil1> ikonia: quit forcing your idea on me!!
[16:16] <robotdevil1> Im not deaf
[16:16] <ikonia> robotdevil1: then do it
[16:16] <lechien> If I'm not mistaken most newer versions of Windows automatically set up home folder encryption, no?
[16:16] <robotdevil1> I may have to do this a few more times \
[16:16] <ikonia> nope
[16:16] <ikonia> you don't have to do anything
[16:17] <ikonia> boot ubuntu, scan windows file system, job done, simple and easy
[16:17] <robotdevil1> so me imaging to a faster disk is gonna teach me something and make it go faster
[16:17] <ikonia> no it's not
[16:17] <EriC^^> lechien: nah, i dont think so
[16:17] <robotdevil1> during the scan that is
[16:17] <ikonia> as you still have to read the whole slow disk and block copy the whole disk, inlcuding unused space
[16:18] <ikonia> it will not go faster,
[16:18] <ikonia> it just makes a complex and pointless attempt at a solution
[16:18] <robotdevil1> ok it will teach how to be slow
[16:18] <MACscr> is it possible to configure xrandr at all through ssh?
[16:18] <ikonia> where as if you boot ubuntu and scan the windows OS it will be safe and clean
[16:18] <ikonia> and easy
[16:18] <n0p3reXx> lechien: Erm...really?! :\
[16:18] <bogdan> Hi
[16:19] <lechien> I want to say it does.
[16:19] <bogdan> how to add my program to oficial repositories?
[16:19]  * robotdevil1 throws coffee cup at wall
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  you can't
[16:19] <ikonia> bogdan: I'd suggest starting off as MOTU
[16:19] <ikonia> !motu | bogdan
[16:19] <nick73> !ciao
[16:19] <bogdan> Hm... OKAY thanks
[16:20] <nick73> !lista
[16:20] <robotdevil1> ok I have a new question
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> bogdan  publish your program somewhere one the net, as a ppa or a .deb or so, then hope someone picks it up and likes it
[16:20] <bogdan> I upload it on sourceforge
[16:20] <bogdan> with sources in git
[16:21] <robotdevil1> may I use dd to make an image to a  partition ?
[16:21] <bogdan> robot, yes
[16:21] <ikonia> robotdevil1: yes, if the sizes match
[16:21] <nick73> yes
[16:21] <free29> alguna con ropita para charlar en skype???
[16:21] <nick73> nick73
[16:21] <bogdan> dd if=/dev/devtobackup of=/dev/devtowrite
[16:21] <ikonia> or you can put it to an image file on a partition file system
[16:21] <nick73> !lista
[16:21] <ikonia> bogdan: no, do not do that
[16:21] <robotdevil1> ikonia: oh that a thing? what do you mean by sizes?
[16:22] <n0p3reXx> bogdan: use ddrescue.
[16:22] <bogdan> By this method i write ubuntu ISO on usb :D
[16:22] <ikonia> robotdevil1: if you backup say a 320GB device and try to restore it to say a 500GB partition device, it will cause problems as the sizes don't matter
[16:22] <ikonia> bogdan: that is totally different
[16:22] <n0p3reXx> and be careful which partition goes in if= and of=
[16:22] <EriC^^> robotdevil1: you mean to write one partition to an image file, then copy it to another partition on another disk?
[16:22] <bogdan> okay
[16:22] <ikonia> robotdevil1: of the obvious, if you try to write to a device that is smaller than the image
[16:22] <EriC^^> cause that's what they thought you meant
[16:23] <ikonia> robotdevil1: there are tools such as clonezilla that can do resizes
[16:23] <robotdevil1> ikonia: wouldnt it just fill the entire partition?
[16:23] <ikonia> robotdevil1: no
[16:23] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block level copy
[16:23] <ikonia> hence why it has to match up
[16:23] <robotdevil1> ikonia: hmmm
[16:24] <robotdevil1> ikonia:  but this is different is you use an iso?
[16:24] <bogdan> hm
[16:24] <robotdevil1> ikonia: to image from i mean'
[16:24] <ikonia> robotdevil1: no, the ubuntu iso is different because it's not a block level copy, it's a squashed file system
[16:24] <bogdan> i install gcc 2.95 from old archives but it not compile linux kernel 0.11
[16:24] <bogdan> cpp0 not found
[16:25] <bogdan> I can't build older GCC-errors
[16:25] <ikonia> bogdan: what version of ubuntu are you using
[16:25] <bogdan> 15.10 x32
[16:25] <ikonia> bogdan: so don't install things from non-15.10 repos
[16:25] <bogdan> lubuntu 15.10 x32
[16:25] <bogdan> i install from 2.02 repo
[16:25] <ikonia> 2.02 ?
[16:25] <ikonia> there is no ubuntu 2.02
[16:25] <bogdan> gcc 2.95 is very old(2000 year)
[16:26] <bogdan> sorry
[16:26] <bogdan> ubuntu 2.x
[16:26] <ikonia> there is no ubuntu 2
[16:26] <robotdevil1> so how do I use dd to make a backup of anything then>
[16:26] <robotdevil1> ?
[16:26] <ikonia> robotdevil1: why do you want to use dd to make a backup
[16:26] <ikonia> again what's the goal ?
[16:26] <robotdevil1> well I was going to use it to backup my ubuntu install too
[16:27] <ikonia> so back it up to a different disk and you can use it to restore
[16:27] <bogdan> Strange . What I then downloaded? It was precisely from the archives of ubuntu before 2005
[16:28] <ikonia> bogdan: what are you talking about
[16:28] <robotdevil1> ikonia: im not sure what is different in the senarios
[16:28] <bogdan> gcc 2.95
[16:28] <ikonia> robotdevil1: in what senarios ?
[16:28] <ikonia> bogdan: where did you get it from exactly
[16:28] <robotdevil1> the two ive illustrated
[16:28] <robotdevil1> pretend the scan doesnt exist
[16:28] <ikonia> robotdevil1: making a block level copy of a windows image nad trying to virus scan it as a file system = totally different than making a block level copy of a disk to use as a restore point
[16:29] <bogdan> ubuntu archives
[16:29] <ikonia> bogdan: what archive, give me the exact URL please
[16:30] <lechien> ikonia what version of windows?
[16:30] <ikonia> lechien:  ?
[16:30] <lechien> ikonia Are you trying to image your windows partition to another disk?
[16:30] <ikonia> lechien: I'm not doing anything
[16:31] <bogdan> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gcc-2.95/
[16:31] <lechien> ikonia Who's trying to get help here?
[16:31] <EriC^^> nobody really
[16:31] <EriC^^> maybe bogdan
[16:31] <lechien> Oh.
[16:31] <ikonia> bogdan: that is not meant for 15.x releases
[16:32] <lechien> Well, I looked up windows encryption and at windows 7 the EFS was implemented.
[16:32] <ikonia> lechien: it's available if you want to use it, the guys in ##windows will explain the defaults/options
[16:32] <bogdan> It works
[16:32] <bogdan> but
[16:32] <ikonia> but nothing
[16:32] <bogdan> not compiles other programs(for example hello world)
[16:33] <ikonia> bogdan: then it doens't work
[16:33] <bogdan> may be binutils
[16:33] <ikonia> bogdan: and it's not supported for you to mix repos like that
[16:33] <lechien> Oh I see.
[16:34] <bogdan> thanks
[16:34] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so i cannot make an image of any install onto a new partition or drive and mount it under ubuntu and treat it as a filesytem?
[16:34] <bogdan> i need to compile linux 0.11 kernel.Any ways?
[16:35] <ikonia> bogdan: no
[16:35] <bogdan> okay
[16:35] <bogdan> thanks
[16:35] <nick73> !ciao
[16:35] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it's a block level image, there are options for it, but not to do what you want, as it will always be slower than just scanning the windows file system
[16:35] <nick73> !lista
[16:35] <yeats> !it | nick73
[16:35] <lechien> You'll have to mount the image to see its contents.
[16:35] <nick73> !lista
[16:36] <bogdan> !ru
[16:36] <nick73> ciao
[16:36] <jnix> !choctaw
[16:36] <bogdan> !ciao
[16:36] <robotdevil1> ikonia: so can you answer one more thing for me?
[16:36] <jnix> i am offended there isn't a choctaw language ubuntu channel
[16:36] <nick73> !lista
[16:36] <jnix> (jk)
[16:36] <bogdan> Lol ;)
[16:37] <jnix> if there had been a choctaw language ubuntu channel i'd be picking my jaw off the ground
[16:37] <lechien> I'm surprised there's not a choctaw flavor of ubnutnu.
[16:38] <bogdan> how to compile ubuntu on arm(not ubuntu touch)
[16:38] <ikonia> there is already an arm release
[16:38] <ikonia> !arm | bogdan
[16:38] <bogdan> On raspberry?
[16:38] <ikonia> !pi | bogdan
[16:39] <ikonia> bogdan: you need a pi2
[16:39] <bogdan> A or B?
[16:39] <ikonia> bogdan: pi2
[16:40] <bogdan> I want to buy PI.Or PI2.I don't like pidora and this is not a decent word
[16:40] <bogdan> In Russian language
[16:40] <bogdan> I want ubuntu
[16:40] <ikonia> !ru | bogdan
[16:41] <ilyass> ciao
[16:42] <zamba> what is considered the "best" webmail these days?
[16:42] <zamba> squirrelmail, roundcube or horde?
[16:42] <ikonia> it just personal opinion
[16:42] <zamba> ikonia: thus the quotation marks
[16:42] <bogdan> gmail :D
[16:42] <zamba> bogdan: hehe
[16:43] <ikonia> thus try them and see what YOU like
[16:43] <ikonia> there are 10+ popular web mail products
[16:43] <bogdan> mail.yandex.ru,gmail,yahoo mail... own domain with round cube
[16:44] <n0p3reXx> zamba: I would prefer hushmail, opmbx, tutanota.
[16:44] <bogdan> Chromium not save cookies
[16:44] <bogdan> It normal?
[16:44] <Netwolf> the new gmail inbox.gmail.com is pretty awesome
[16:45] <Netwolf> buuut, if you need to see mail headers (u will have to use the old version)
[16:45] <n0p3reXx> bogdan, Cookies help track your activity on the netz, your better of disabled.
[16:45] <bogdan> I not disabled cookies
[16:45] <Netwolf> they also help you login to many sites and are neded
[16:46] <bogdan> I know about cookies.I have own WAP site-nebulasocial.tk
[16:46] <Netwolf> we have a cookie phobia I think
[16:46] <bogdan> Chrome save, chromium not save
[16:46] <Netwolf> but disregard the entire ad industry based on cookies - which is shockingly complex and intresting
[16:48] <n0p3reXx> Netwolf: agreed.
[16:53] <bogdan> How to run Unity 5 on Linux?Script not elp
[16:53] <bogdan> *help
[16:54] <ikonia> on linuxscript ?
[16:54] <bogdan> on activation service not availaible
[16:54] <bogdan> no
[16:54] <ikonia> bogdan: please be clear in what you're asking, your questions and situations are not being presented as genuine
[16:54] <bogdan> Script download and install unity in wine
[16:54] <bogdan> OK
[16:54] <lenswipe> Hi folks, could someone remind me how to mount a samba share from the command line?
[16:54] <ikonia> I appreciate there is a language barrier
[16:54] <ikonia> lenswipe: mount -t cifs
[16:54] <ikonia> bogdan: unity as in the desktop, or the games development engine ?
[16:55] <bogdan> Unity 3D 5.2
[16:55] <bogdan> haha.Unity desktop on wine :D
[16:55] <ikonia> you'd have to write that script
[16:55] <lenswipe> I'm getting a message saying //<my computer>/<share> isn't in fstab, I suspect I'm calling mount wrong
[16:55] <ikonia> lenswipe: what is the exact command you are running please
[16:55] <bogdan> No.On official wiki i get script.
[16:55] <ikonia> bogdan: ok, use that script
[16:56] <bogdan> Unity lauch but not activation
[16:56] <ikonia> contact the people who make the script/unity to debug their process
[16:57] <lenswipe> ikonia, mount -t cifs -o username=<share user>,password=<share password> //WIN_PC_IP/<share name> /mnt
[16:57] <lenswipe> Wait, it worked sort of but now it says s mount error 22 invalid argument
[16:57] <ikonia> lenswipe: looks solid enough, shouldn't be looking at the fstab fr that
[16:57] <ikonia> for
[16:58] <ikonia> lenswipe: get rid of password and let it prompt you for a password
[16:58] <lenswipe> I missed the mount point the first time ikonia
[16:58] <ikonia> perfect
[16:58] <lenswipe> It's working now, thanks
[16:59] <KaiSVK> HI all
[17:00] <tomreyn> greetings to slovenska
[17:00] <dnor> Hi all. Does anyone know of a utility similar to Localghost for Linux? http://scotchi.net/localghost/ It’s a convinient little utility for managing /etc/hosts
[17:00] <mistralol> anyone know where the new tab menu option has gone from gnome-terminal in 5.10?
[17:00] <ikonia> a text editor is fine for managing /etc/hosts
[17:00] <ikonia> you shouldn't really need to touch /etc/hosts
[17:01] <bogdan> And another question. I have a Radeon 9550 because it is a more powerful PC is not working (SATA controller died). When I try to play a native COP or Day of-the defeat they work very slowly. Although that meet the minimum requirements
[17:01] <bogdan> Sorry
[17:02] <bogdan> Google translate not works normal. When i try play Counter Strike or Day of Defear(Games on GoldSRC)
[17:02] <dnor> ikonia: I need to manage it frequently to switch between live and development services.
[17:03] <ikonia> dnor: just have 2 files /etc/hosts.live /etc/hosts.dev
[17:03] <ikonia> copy the one your want
[17:03] <ikonia> or setup a proper name service
[17:03] <bogdan> can you help me>
[17:03] <bogdan> ?
[17:04] <tomreyn> bogdan: chances are you are using the open drivers. while they integrate well with linux, they cannot usually provide the same performance tas the proprietary drivers, since the vendors do not disclose hoew to use the hardware effectively.
[17:05] <tomreyn> bogdan: so if you have not changed to the proprietary driver stack, yet, you can try whether any are available on your desktops' system settings.
[17:06] <bogdan> Yes i use open source drivers.I try to delete it and install proprietary drivers but i see error of version.How to delete open source driver(and not kill X Window) and install fgl
[17:06] <bogdan> I try play NFS: U on wine.It small lags.Other games like open arena-works fast
[17:09] <aq2> i'm testing ubuntu server 14.04 in virtualbox, i've installed mate-desktop and lightdm but lightdm says "failed to load session". how can i make it load mate?
[17:09] <bogdan> Install dependencies
[17:09] <bogdan> add mate to .xinitrc
[17:09] <cyclick> I set ubuntu to use Dolphin file manager for everything but the trash icon in the bottom left corner opens it as Trash:/// and it should be Trash:/ when using Dolphin... how can I change that?
[17:09] <ikonia> aq2: check the log why it thinks it can't load
[17:10] <ikonia> mate-desktop will bring in all the dependencies you need
[17:10] <aq2> where is that?
[17:10] <bogdan>  i have the same error with KDE on puppy
[17:10] <aq2> hmm
[17:10] <ikonia> aq2: .session ogs
[17:10] <ikonia> logs
[17:10] <ikonia> in your home directory
[17:10] <aq2> Ok
[17:10] <ikonia> also look a the lightdm logs if it's logging in /var/log
[17:10] <bogdan> Can you help me with deleting open source radeon drivers?
[17:11] <aq2> how can i send the contents of a file to pastebin in ubuntu?
[17:11] <aq2> i dont remember the name of the command.
[17:12] <tomreyn> !pastebin | aq2
[17:12] <cyclick> aq2: pastebinit?
[17:12] <bogdan> !paste
[17:12] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | aq2
[17:12] <aq2> yes that was it
[17:13] <aq2> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14448520/
[17:14] <aq2> /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log.old -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/14448541/
[17:14] <aq2> how exactly can i tell it to use mate instead of nonexistent unity?
[17:14] <DalekSec> !info libapp-nopaste-perl
[17:15] <spartiates> hello
[17:16] <spartiates> I search french irc channel to sysadmin
[17:16] <bogdan> !fr
[17:16] <spartiates> !fr
[17:17] <bogdan> !fr | spartiates
[17:17] <spartiates> thx
[17:17] <bogdan> ok
[17:18] <dmatt> bogdan: did you use driver manager to switch from open source driver?
[17:18] <bogdan> No
[17:18] <bogdan> What is?
[17:18] <bogdan> Additional drivers?
[17:21] <dmatt> ubuntu has automated way to switch to different drivers, it is available in Driver manager
[17:21] <anonymous287> hello, i would like to add themes for ubuntu, but gnome tweak tool dont read it (i can t choose it in gtk+ )
[17:22] <dmatt> bogdan: I am in kubuntu, let me check how is it called in ubuntu
[17:22] <ikonia> the most common cause for that is, it's not a valid theme
[17:22] <bogdan> May be send screenshot?
[17:22] <bogdan> My lubuntu on english
[17:22] <cfhowlett> anonymous287, gnome?   ubuntu no longer uses gnome
[17:23] <bogdan> KUbuntu very slow works on Celeron D
[17:23] <dmatt> bogdan: try to run command jockey
[17:23] <anonymous287> yes gnome
[17:23] <bogdan> jockey command not found
[17:23] <ikonia> jockey is long gone
[17:24] <ikonia> it's the additional drivers tool in the menu
[17:24] <bogdan> One minuet
[17:24] <dmatt> thanks ikonia
[17:24] <ikonia> system -> administration -> hardware -> additional drivers
[17:24] <bogdan> No proprietary drivers are in use
[17:24] <ikonia> thats the documented location
[17:24] <ikonia> I've not got lubuntu here to check
[17:25] <bogdan> Additional drivers in main menu
[17:25] <bogdan> Searching for available drivers...
[17:25] <dmatt> bogdan: you should see if there closed source drivers available for yout gtaphics or other hw
[17:25] <PHroGman> Have a canon mx 922 printer attached to my network vis ethernet cable into router. Cand get ubuntu 14.04 to find the scanner on the network. It does howver find the printer.
[17:26] <dmatt> when it finishes searching
[17:26] <ikonia> the propritary drivers probably dropped support for that card
[17:26] <bogdan> Drivers available on amd.com but not install
[17:26] <ikonia> it's quite old
[17:26] <bogdan> Radeon 9550 is created in 2004 :D
[17:26] <bogdan> But driver exists
[17:27] <bogdan> I send screenshot
[17:27] <ikonia> driver exists where ?
[17:27] <ikonia> don't need a screen shot
[17:28] <bogdan> No
[17:28] <bogdan> Sorry
[17:28] <bogdan> Driver can download on official site
[17:28] <bogdan> but in additional drivers my videocard not exists
[17:28] <ikonia> the official site probably doesn't support it any more
[17:28] <ikonia> if it's not in the additional drivers, it's normally because support has ben dropped
[17:29] <bogdan> Unknown: Unknown this device is not workins
[17:29] <bogdan> *working
[17:29] <bogdan> Using processor microcode firmware for intel cpu from intel-micrcode
[17:29] <bogdan> do not use the device
[17:29] <bogdan> it radio buttons from dialog
[17:31] <aq2> still getting "failed to start session"
[17:31] <aq2> i've tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:32] <bogdan> Unknow: unknown this device is using an alternative driver
[17:32] <bogdan> *unknown
[17:33] <dmatt> bogdan: what kind of information are you pasting here?
[17:33] <bogdan>   what is ascii char
[17:33] <bogdan> In additional drivers
[17:34] <OerHeks> Radeon 9550 is only supported with the open driver, AFAIK
[17:34] <dmatt> sounds like from a log, not from graphical program
[17:34] <bogdan> One minuet
[17:34] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[17:36] <Bassem> is there equalizer for Rhythmbox
[17:37] <OerHeks>  only Clementine has a buildin eq, AFAIK.
[17:37] <naughty-1923> Anybady help me ''grub rescue'' about ?
[17:37] <Muh2> Hi, how can I install Pycharm and be able to call it from terminal as "pycharm"? (by the way I'm from Windows, learning Ubuntu)
[17:37] <cfhowlett> OerHeks, nope. vlc has one as does banshee
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> Bassem  rhythmbox has some plugins
[17:37] <OerHeks> oh nice
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> !find rhythmbox | Bassem
[17:38] <OerHeks> there is a PPA with a lot of plugins incl Equaliser > http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/07/install-rhythmbox-plugins-ubuntu-1404/
[17:40] <aq2> here's a zip of my /var/log/lightdm http://wikisend.com/download/432196/archive.zip
[17:40] <aq2> can someone help?
[17:41] <nicomachus> perhaps paste it to a pastebin, and don't zip it up.
[17:41] <aq2> its 6 files
[17:41] <aq2> but i can do that too.
[17:41] <cfhowlett> aq2, we ain't opening some strange zip!  state you
[17:41] <aq2> Ok got it
[17:44] <bogdan> http://support.amd.com/ru-ru/download
[17:44] <PHroGman> So I have a program called AcquireImages on my Ubuntu machine. Does not have an option to remove . Tried command line but says it cant find it
[17:44] <PHroGman> any ideas?
[17:45] <bogdan> In this if fill form Desktop Graphics, Radeon 9xxx, Radeon 9550, Linux 32BIT
[17:45] <bogdan> then may download driver
[17:45] <OerHeks> bogdan, useless,Radeon 9550 is only supported with the open driver
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !find acquire
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  how did you install it?
[17:46] <IceNine> can someone shed some light on what i'm doing wrong
[17:46] <IceNine> i've got a mount on /media/user/media with rwx----- perms
[17:46] <IceNine> i'm trying to change it to rwx-xr-x (755), anything i try it doesn't seem to change the permissions on this mount i've tried chmod -R 755 /media/user/media and with sudo
[17:46] <PHroGman> Dont remember if I used synaptic or software center
[17:46] <IceNine> the mount is a local drive
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  it's not in the repos
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  what is the output of   cat /etc/issue
[17:47] <bogdan> But catalyst 9.10 supports radeon 9550
[17:47] <bogdan> amd.com have cayalyst 9.10
[17:48] <aq2> here's the logs http://dpaste.com/134MW52
[17:48] <bogdan> open source drvier is very slow
[17:48] <PHroGman> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[17:48] <OerHeks> bogdan, well, if you think it works .. i think we see you back soon
[17:48] <bogdan> Question
[17:48] <bogdan> how
[17:48] <bogdan> to
[17:48] <bogdan> delete
[17:49] <bogdan> open source driver
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> PHroGman  that program is not in the repos ... did you use a ppa?
[17:49] <ioria> !info kipi-plugins
[17:49] <OerHeks> bogdan, what do you want with such old GPU ? be glad it works  with the open driver, hardwaresupport ( for ATI/Nvidia ) is guaranteed for hardware up to 5 years.
[17:50] <ioria> PHroGman, see if you have this package:  kipi-plugins
[17:50] <ioria> PHroGman, or this:  digikam
[17:51] <PHroGman> I do
[17:51] <Saulo> hello guys!
[17:51] <Saulo> how are doing??
[17:51] <bogdan> i don't want install windows
[17:51] <bogdan> hi
[17:52] <PHroGman> digiKam architecture-independant data
[17:52] <ioria> PHroGman, if you run    apt-cache show kipi-plugins            you'll see    AcquireImages      : acquire images using flat scanner
[17:52] <PHroGman> kipi-plugins architecture-independent data
[17:53] <ioria> PHroGman, i think is related to those packages .....
[17:53] <aq2> any help with my lightdm problem?
[17:53] <bogdan> if driver radeon driver for linux kernel 2.6 lubuntu 15.10 works?
[17:53] <bogdan> Sorry
[17:53] <bogdan> If i install radeon driver for linux kernel 2.6
[17:53] <PHroGman> I uninstalled digicam via software center
[17:54] <nicomachus> bogdan: I doubt you are on kernel 2.6
[17:54] <bogdan> 15.10 on kernel 2.6?
[17:54] <ioria> PHroGman, try with command line to purge/remove kipi-plugins
[17:54] <nicomachus> 15.10 is on kernel 4.2
[17:55] <OerHeks> !info linux-image precise
[17:55] <PHroGman> 5 (>= 4.0.3), kipi-plugins-common (= 4:3.5.0-0ubuntu10)
[17:55] <PHroGman> Recommends: imagemagick, hugin, enblend, enfuse, minidnla
[17:55] <PHroGman> Suggests: gallery, gimp, kmail, vorbis-tools
[17:55] <PHroGman> Breaks: digikam (<< 4:3.4.0), kipi-plugins-common (<< 4:3.1.0-3ubuntu1~)
[17:55] <PHroGman> Filename: pool/universe/d/digikam/kipi-plugins_3.5.0-0ubuntu10_amd64.deb
[17:55] <PHroGman> Size: 3371162
[17:55] <bogdan> !faq
[17:55] <OerHeks> bogdan, even precise is on 3.+ , no way to install such old kernel on 15.10
[17:56] <bogdan> i don't need install old kernel
[17:56] <bogdan> i need to install driver for old kernel
[17:56] <ioria> PHroGman, don't paste in here, use paste.ubuntu.com or pastebinit
[17:56] <PHroGman>   RemoveRedEyes      : remove red eyes on image automatically
[17:56] <PHroGman>   SendImages         : send images by e-mail
[17:56] <PHroGman>   SimpleViewerExport : export images to Flash using SimpleViewer
[17:56] <PHroGman>   SlideShow          : Slide images with 2D and 3D effects using OpenGL
[17:56] <PHroGman>   Smug               : import/export images to/from a remote SmugMug
[17:56] <samic> Problem with Ubuntu server: gives 403 for the main domain and 200 for the alias domain directed to the same directory. Any help?
[17:56] <PHroGman>   TimeAdjust         : adjust date and time
[17:56] <ioria> PHroGman, don't paste in here, use paste.ubuntu.com or pastebinit
[17:56] <nicomachus> !paste | PHroGman
[17:56] <OerHeks> bogdan, good luck, i told already it is not going to work.
[17:57] <bogdan> I hear open source driver not slow when proprietary driver
[17:57] <bogdan> wtf?
[18:01] <ioria> PHroGman, keep it in the public  channel, please
[18:01] <Herte434> Hi. How should I update a compiled software? Just compile it again and hope everything gets overwritten or is that bad practice?
[18:01] <bogdan> Herte434
[18:01] <aq2> reinstall it?
[18:02] <ikonia> Herte434: you should be using software packages from maintained, trusted sources
[18:02] <bogdan> how to compile programs writed on C/C++?I get errors on ANY program when i install
[18:02] <OerHeks> Herte434, that is the normal way yes, make sure you compile the uninstall script too
[18:02] <ikonia> bogdan: use packages is the short answer
[18:02] <Herte434> ikonia: Sometimes there are no packages :/
[18:02] <ioria> PHroGman, if you have unistalled digikam , try again with   sudo apt-get purge digikam   , the sudo apt-get unistall kipi-plugins
[18:02] <ikonia> Herte434: there always should be, and there is not, thats where you should be working with the community to get them made for yourself and others
[18:02] <aq2> bogdan: i think you need g++ for that
[18:02] <ikonia> no you don't
[18:03] <bogdan> i have gcc
[18:03] <ioria> PHroGman, occasionally , sudo apt-get purge kipi-plugins-common
[18:03] <bogdan> 5
[18:03] <bogdan> gcc 5
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: what are you trying to build ?
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: most software will have a pre-built package available
[18:03] <bogdan> sudo su
[18:03] <bogdan> ./configure
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: stop
[18:03] <bogdan> make
[18:03] <bogdan> make install
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: I'm not asking how
[18:03] <ikonia> bogdan: WHAT are you trying to build
[18:03] <OerHeks> bogdan, any error gives a clue what -dev you are missing. linux is awesome
[18:03] <bogdan> Aaa.Sorry
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: you should not be compiling software as root either
[18:04] <bogdan> I compile with sudo su
[18:04] <OerHeks> ikonia +1
[18:04] <bogdan> errors in code
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: you should never use "sudo su"
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: and you sohuld not be compiling as root
[18:04] <truexfan81> bogdan: if there is any version of the program in the repos apt-get build-dep can help pull in the needed -dev packages
[18:04] <ikonia> bogdan: what software are you trying to build
[18:04] <bogdan> Okay thanks
[18:05] <bogdan> I try build ALSA
[18:05] <ikonia> bogdan: alsa is already packaged in the ubuntu repos
[18:05] <ikonia> there is zero reason to build it
[18:05] <ikonia> bogdan: open software center and search for alsa, you'll find it's already in
[18:05] <Volkodav> Hi! I am getting quite a few updates but the install errors out with "install or removal of a package failed" ?
[18:05] <ikonia> bogdan: from everything you told me so far, I'd suggest your machine is at a risk of being in a bad state
[18:05] <bogdan> But alsa not compile
[18:06] <ikonia> bogdan: you don't need to compile alsa
[18:06] <ikonia> bogdan: you open software center, search for alsa and click install
[18:06] <PHroGman> That did it thanks
[18:06] <ikonia> it's already built and packaged for you in the ubuntu software repos
[18:06] <PHroGman> You guys rock!
[18:06] <ioria> PHroGman, you're welcome
[18:07] <bogdan> I just put it yesterday ubuntu 15.10
[18:07] <slidinghorn> Volkodav: Please paste the whole output into a pastebin and give us the link
[18:07] <bogdan> Sorry
[18:07] <bogdan> I install ubuntu 15.10 yesterday
[18:07] <ikonia> bogdan: yes, and you've already tried to copmile things, installed packages from old version repos,
[18:07] <bogdan> And not compiles gcc 4 from gcc5
[18:08] <Volkodav> slidinghorn: Ok
[18:08] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Show us the results in a pastebin ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . so we see the errors and in context . Then we see what we can do .
[18:08] <ikonia> bogdan: you've already put your machine at risk trying to compile things wrong - when there are already packages for your machine and installing packages from old versions of ubuntu on your current version
[18:09] <bogdan> No
[18:09] <bogdan> GCC 4 - 2007 - 2010 year
[18:09] <ikonia> bogdan: you showed me the old repo archive where you tried to install gcc 2.95 from
[18:09] <bogdan> Aaargh
[18:10] <bogdan> I try to compile other gcc
[18:10] <bogdan> gcc 4.9 not compiles
[18:10] <ikonia> stop trying to copile things
[18:10] <ikonia> compile
[18:10] <ikonia> you have no need
[18:10] <ikonia> you are making a mess of your machine
[18:10] <Guiri> I've having a bit of trouble performing an apt-get upgrade: http://fpaste.org/309009/36303014/  I tried running dpkg --configure -a already.
[18:10] <bogdan> I need to compile linux 0.11
[18:10] <bogdan> but
[18:10] <ikonia> bogdan: no you don't
[18:11] <bogdan> linux 0.11 need gcc 2.95
[18:11] <ikonia> bogdan: why do you need to compile a kernal that is roghly 20 years old ?
[18:11] <bogdan> Yes :D
[18:11] <ikonia> why
[18:11] <bogdan> I modify kernel
[18:11] <bogdan> but i don't compile
[18:11] <aq2> Guiri: try: sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[18:11] <bogdan> *can't
[18:11] <ikonia> bogdan: why are you playing with a 20 year old kernel that will never work on a modern system ?
[18:12] <bogdan> I want to make my own distro
[18:12] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449271/
[18:12] <ikonia> bogdan: you have no chance, it's clear you really don't understand what you are doing. And a 20 year old kernel is not a good starting place
[18:12] <truexfan81> bogdan: make one with a modern kernel then
[18:12] <Volkodav> slidinghorn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449271/
[18:12] <bogdan> Year ago i write simple OS kernel on nasm but it not... compatible with *nix
[18:13] <ikonia> bogdan: the kernel is the OS
[18:13] <ikonia> bogdan: how can the kernel not be compatible with something
[18:13] <bogdan> Sorry
[18:13] <ikonia> this is a pointless discussion thats not really on topic for this channel
[18:13] <bogdan> Lang barrier
[18:13] <ikonia> bogdan: I strongly suggest you look at how you are using your ubuntu machine, it's going to cause you problems in the future
[18:14] <Guiri> aq2: Thanks.  Same error, unfortunately.
[18:14] <aq2> hmm :(
[18:14] <truexfan81> Volkodav: try sudo dpkg -r libopencv-video2.4v5:amd64   see if it can remove it
[18:15] <nicomachus> Guiri: purge ffmpeg and then reinstall it
[18:15] <bogdan> Me interestI find it interesting to make their OS. On the basis of Ubuntu I do not want to. Knowledge of C ++ but there are only under Windows. Therefore, I am a noob to you
[18:15] <Guiri> nicomachus: will do
[18:17] <Volkodav> truexfan81: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449341/
[18:17] <blz> Hello, I plugged in a USB drive but it doesn't show up in `lsblk`. It does, however, show up in dmesg:  http://hastebin.com/avumirefib.vhdl  How can I determine which "/dev/" it is?
[18:17] <ikonia> use the blokid
[18:17] <ikonia> don't reference the old style device names
[18:17] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Look'n at your http://paste.ubuntu.com/14449271/ .
[18:18] <blz> ikonia, were you talking to me?  If so, could you please elaborate?
[18:18] <Guiri> nicomachus: I'm stumped: http://fpaste.org/309010/36347514/
[18:18] <truexfan81> package/dependency system sucks at times
[18:18] <truexfan81> most of the time its great tho
[18:18] <bogdan> I can write an application in OpenGL and draw sprites. I am able to work with the audio subsystem of Windows. Versed in VynApi. But I want to make their OS is compatible with unix
[18:19] <bogdan> Aaargh
[18:19] <bogdan> Google translate
[18:19] <bogdan> WinApi
[18:19] <derenir> bogdan: if you want to write your own distro from scratch you can google LINUX FROM SCRATCH
[18:19] <bogdan> Hm... thanks
[18:20] <derenir> bogdan it explains how to compile the kernel the glibc the gcc the binutils etc
[18:22] <bogdan> May be i can compile gcc and binutils.I can simply modify kernel with adds some features
[18:22] <ikonia> bogdan: no
[18:22] <ikonia> bogdan: stop trying to do this
[18:22] <ikonia> this is not how to use ubuntu
[18:22] <ratchetman> anyone really good with avconv? I am trying to capture video and audio but when I do it together the crf is being ignored for the video portion
[18:23] <bogdan> I really noob :(
[18:23] <bogdan> But even then a student brought a Linux distribution. And I'm here I can not :(
[18:24] <ratchetman> using libx264 - sorry that would probably help
[18:24] <ikonia> bogdan: sorry, what do you mean, it's getting lost in translation
[18:24] <derenir> bogdan you can install an older distro and compile gcc from there
[18:25] <derenir> bogdan is trying to compile gcc4 with gcc5
[18:25] <ikonia> he is trying to do a lot more than that
[18:25] <bogdan> Wow!Thanks.
[18:25] <ikonia> he has mixed packages from old ubuntu versions on to the 15.10 version he's running
[18:25] <ikonia> he's tried to compile software wrongly/badly
[18:25] <bogdan> Red Hat 9 have old GCC!!!!
[18:25] <ikonia> you can't use that
[18:25] <bogdan> ?
[18:25] <ikonia> redhat 9 is dead
[18:25] <ikonia> actually - do what you want with redhat, good luck
[18:26] <bogdan> "bogdan you can install an older distro and compile gcc from there"
[18:26] <uRock> If I am using the Wily kernel in ubuntu 14.04, then do I download the VirtualBox installer for WIly?
[18:26] <derenir> bogdan are you going to modify the kernel? linux 0.1 will not boot in qemu
[18:27] <ikonia> uRock: you don't use the wily kernel in 14.04
[18:27] <bogdan> ???
[18:27] <derenir> search google for linux 0.1 qemu ---------- it doesn't boot
[18:27] <bogdan> Not boot???
[18:27] <bogdan> But...
[18:27] <Guest60098> is there a way to set my LXDE desktop to where if i pull GUI windows far enough to one side of the screen, they align on that side of the screen?
[18:27] <ikonia> uRock: or do you mean the LTS enablement stack ?
[18:27] <Guest60098> like it does in Windows?
[18:27] <blz> I'm late into the conversation but maybe buildroot is what bogdan is looking for?
[18:27] <uRock> ikonia, I am using 4.2.0-23-generic in Wily
[18:27] <r0x> Hi
[18:27] <ikonia> bogdan: it's really not
[18:28] <ikonia> uRock: you said you where using 14.04
[18:28] <derenir> https://www.google.com/#q=linux+0.11+qemu it needs to be modified to boot
[18:28] <ikonia> blz: it's really not what he was looking for
[18:28]  * blz backs away quietly
[18:28] <bogdan> hm... 2.6 is very hard
[18:28] <KNUBBIG> Hi, I'm having a problem with iptables dropping packets even though the policy is set to accept and there is no rule for dropping. Any ideas? :(
[18:28] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: why do you think iptables is dropping packaets
[18:28] <r0x> There is a way to prevent that a manual fix in kernel driver will be overwritten by a future kernel update?
[18:28] <ikonia> packets
[18:29] <blz> Bogdan, would you mind reiterating what you're trying to do?
[18:29] <blz> bogdan ^
[18:29] <uRock> I am , installed the linux-generic-lts-wily package
[18:29] <ikonia> uRock: ok, so thats the enablement stack
[18:29] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: i added an entry for logging dropped packets and syslog shows exactly that :(
[18:29] <uRock> ikonia,  I am installed the linux-generic-lts-wily package
[18:29] <uRock> ikonia, k
[18:30] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: what are the nature of those packets, as it won't just drop them unless it matches the table rule/pattern
[18:30] <bogdan> ?
[18:30] <bogdan> write kernel on asm?
[18:30] <uRock> ikonia, I just want to make sure I don
[18:30] <BrokenBoy> hi
[18:30] <bogdan> google translate bad works.
[18:30] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: rules: http://pastebin.com/zS2GSZmp dropped packet example: http://pastebin.com/LBey74fB it drops all kinds of packets, including email-related packets
[18:31] <sasquatch_> bogdan: you should read this http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/read.html
[18:31] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: I don't understand it as there isn't even a rule for dropping anything
[18:31] <nicomachus> bogdan: what is your native language?
[18:31] <bogdan> Thanks
[18:31] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: maybe I'm reading your rules wrong, but that looks like it should drpo them
[18:32] <bogdan> native language?I write on Pascal(FPC) / C
[18:32] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: so you have new connections for destination port 22
[18:32] <nicomachus> bogdan: no... what language do you speak?
[18:32] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: and return trip for established connections from anywhere
[18:32] <IceNine> can someone help with permissions on a mount?
[18:32] <uRock> I'll go ahead with the WIly install and see what happens
[18:32] <bogdan> Russian
[18:32] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: the rule it's dropping is destination port 143
[18:33] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Sorry, but I can not make out what is going on with google's talkplugin package. I do not know if it is related to " libopencv-video2.4v5:amd64 " error .
[18:33] <slidinghorn> IceNine: Just go ahead and ask you question in the channel...if anyone knows the answer, they'll answer :)
[18:33] <nicomachus> bogdan: perhaps #ubuntu-ru would be better for you then.
[18:33] <IceNine> trying to chmod but seems like nothing is happening
[18:33] <bogdan> don't send me to Russian channel)
[18:33] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: yea but I don't see a rule matching 143 or am I missing something? As the policy is set to ACCEPT, shouldn't everything that isn't set to REJECT/DROP go through?
[18:33] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: Well I think I know where to dig - it is a dependency issue
[18:33] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: thats the point, there is no rule matching 143 , so it gets blocked
[18:34] <bogdan> There are very few people
[18:34] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: you accept new connections on port 22, and you accept established connection returns on anything else, thats it
[18:34] <ikonia> you're trying to make a new connection on 143, so you get blocked
[18:34] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: oh what is the policy for, then? I thought that would accept everything not blocked?
[18:34] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: K, Has my interest so I learn .
[18:35] <IceNine> fresh install, existing local drive (from windows) mnounted on /media/user/Media with rwx permissions,  I"m trying to set them to 755, when i chmod i don't get any errors, but the permissions do not change, i've also tried sudo chmod
[18:35] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: you're saying "accept policy - things to accept = anything on port 22 and, anything thats already got an established connection"
[18:35] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: so anything that doesn't match those rules, won't hit the accept policy
[18:36] <ikonia> IceNine: you can't change permissions on nfts
[18:37] <KNUBBIG> ikonia: oh wow thanks I completely misunderstood the policy then - thanks!
[18:37] <ikonia> KNUBBIG: no problem, iptables is rock solid, so whatever you think, it won't randomly drop things, the problem will always be with your rule set
[18:39] <IceNine> ikonia, ahaaa
[18:39] <Bassem> can uget open more than one connection for the same downloading file?
[18:39] <ikonia> IceNine: ?
[18:39] <IceNine> ikonia, i've been banging my head against this all day
[18:40] <ikonia> ?? not seen you today so no idea what you're talking about
[18:40] <bogdan> Can i fork older ubuntu(5.x), write my own programs and share source(and distro) with others?
[18:40] <IceNine> on my own
[18:40] <ikonia> bogdan: those distros are dead
[18:40] <IceNine> trying to figure out why it's not working
[18:40] <ikonia> bogdan: it will be impossible to maintain them
[18:41] <xangua> bogdan: fork what? Gnome 2? There is Ubuntu Mate
[18:41] <ikonia> bogdan: being honest - you don't have the skill set to appear to be able to "use" a distribution, let alone write your own/modify your own
[18:41] <ikonia> bogdan: start with something smaller, maybe bug fixing some current ubuntu bugs
[18:41] <sasquatch_> when you fork, you just want to fork the pieces that are important to you and use the latest stable repositories of the upsteam distro for everything else
[18:41] <bogdan> Which distribution to base? I am able to write a player, web browser and other simple programs
[18:41] <bogdan> Relatively simple.
[18:41] <ikonia> bogdan: a modern one, eg: ubuntu 15.10
[18:42] <ikonia> bogdan: but I suggest you change your approach and try to learn how things work by fixing bugs in existing software in modern linux distributions
[18:42] <sasquatch_> i'd use the LTS to reduce the amount of code revisions needed on your part
[18:42] <bhalash> bogdan: Whatever is latest if you don't care about long-term support
[18:43] <bogdan> Hm... get compiled ubuntu or build?
[18:43] <sasquatch_> instead of a new distro, it's easier to just do a new desktop
[18:43] <sasquatch_> then create a meta package for your desktop
[18:43] <ikonia> bogdan: what are you talking about
[18:43] <ikonia> bogdan: ubuntu is already build, packaged and distributed for you
[18:44] <sasquatch_> with a new desktop, other ubuntu derivative distros could use it too
[18:44] <ikonia> hang on - lets be totally honest here
[18:44] <ikonia> no-one is going to use anything at this stage
[18:44] <sasquatch_> this stage being he hasn't even begun
[18:44] <ikonia> learn how the programs work
[18:44] <bhalash> bogdan: You could probably compile it all, and lose days of time for no good end
[18:44] <uRock> Had to use the VBox for 14.04, the Wily one had dependency issues
[18:45] <bogdan> I mean take a distribution already compiled and modify it or build from the source code?
[18:45] <ikonia> bogdan: you can't build from the source code - you've already proven that
[18:45] <ikonia> why are you doing that
[18:45] <ikonia> why are you even trying to build a distro when you can't use linux at a basic level
[18:45] <ikonia> you're sprinting before crawling
[18:46] <mika`> bogdan ~ i wouldn't touch your distro to be honest.
[18:46] <mika`> who would?
[18:46] <sasquatch_> if you fork gnome 3 to re-add categories on the left-hand side to sort the app icons, i will use it
[18:46] <intrigus> Hello, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nss/libnss3-nssdb_3.19.2.1-0ubuntu0.14.04.1_all.deb returns a 404, but it previously existed, see http://web.archive.org/web/20151222043013/http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nss/ does anybody know, why it got removed?
[18:46] <sasquatch_> right-hand side i mean
[18:46] <bogdan> Are you haters?
[18:46] <ikonia> no
[18:46] <ikonia> it's called being "real"
[18:47] <mika`> honest-ers
[18:47] <bhalash> bogdan: You're either dumb, dumb and obstinate or a troll
[18:47] <bogdan> No
[18:49] <bogdan> I'm just the one who lit the enthusiasm to make your distribution. I do not care about other people's opinions, I'm interested all. I just want to make your Linux distribution is not listening to people's opinions. I'm trying to get answers to their questions but I see that my project is trying to "crap" Considering my redneck encoder and stupid idiot
[18:49] <ikonia> bogdan: this channel will help you use ubuntu
[18:49] <ikonia> it will not help you build your own distribution
[18:49] <OerHeks> intrigus, update, there has been an nss update not long ago.  look at 14.04.1_all deb, we are on 14.04.2 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libnss3
[18:49] <yuzdumb> ikonia: it sure will bogdan
[18:49] <ikonia> yuzdumb: it sure will what ?
[18:50] <bhalash> It's a channel for help, not a stage upon which to evangelise
[18:50] <bluenemo> hi guys. I'm on 14.04 and just installed keepalived, it seems none of the scripts defined for promote / demote are ever executed
[18:50] <intrigus> OerHeks I don't think that I can update, It's a CI Server... Any alternative?
[18:50] <bogdan> I'm not experienced. But I want to get experience. In return, trying to crap. And then they say that the Russian bad; (
[18:51] <bluenemo> my keepalived config: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/cea31996/
[18:51] <OerHeks> intrigus, sure you can, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:51] <ikonia> bogdan: this channel can only help you use ubuntu, it will not help/support you building your own distro
[18:51] <ikonia> bogdan: we are happy to help you use ubuntu
[18:51] <bogdan> Okay
[18:51] <OerHeks> intrigus, if you can not, take that machine from the internet
[18:52] <bogdan> And maybe I'll decide what I do and how? I am an adult, I'll decide what I can do and how
[18:52] <intrigus> OerHeks, it's not my machine :D I'm usinghttps://app.wercker.com/#buildstep/56914f320002cf5f3f01b41d . So I'll probably have to send them a ticket...
[18:53] <intrigus> * https://app.wercker.com/#buildstep/56914f320002cf5f3f01b41d
[18:53] <bogdan> Sorry
[18:53] <ikonia> bogdan: you can do whatever you want, we will not support you though
[18:53] <ikonia> (we = this channel)
[18:53] <bogdan> I immediately saw that the message is not for me
[18:53] <OerHeks> intrigus, the 1st thing i see >  Build failed on intrigus-patch-2 .. sure you want to do buils package?
[18:54] <bencc> I'm enable to install this under wily
[18:54] <bencc> sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-extra-`uname -r`
[18:54] <bencc> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.19.0-43-generic
[18:54] <bencc> what am I missing?
[18:54] <ikonia> bogdan: to be clear it is for you, "we will help you use ubuntu, we will not help you build your own distro or do unsupported changes to ubuntu"
[18:54] <ikonia> bencc: does that package exist ?
[18:54] <bogdan> OKay, OKay, OKay, OKay
[18:54] <ikonia> not all kernels have an extras package
[18:55] <bencc> ikonia: where?
[18:55] <ikonia> bencc: in the ubuntu repos
[18:55] <bencc> ikonia: http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/kernel/linux-image-extra-3.19.0-43-generic
[18:55] <derenir> bencc if the apt database is newer it cannot see the older package
[18:56] <ikonia> bencc: ok, so what happens if you search for that package i the package manager
[18:56] <derenir> bencc you have updated the apt database so it can only find a newer version
[18:56] <ikonia> or as derenir has just shortcutted to the root of it
[18:56] <bencc> derenir: I'm using lxc. so probably trying to find the package in the wily repo but using the host trusty kernel
[18:57] <bencc> what do I need to add to the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[18:57] <ikonia> lxc - won't that take the kernel from the host
[18:57] <ikonia> you're not meant to mess/change with kernel packages on lxc as it's running the kernel from the host as para-virtual
[18:57] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-extra wily
[18:57] <bencc> ikonia: I'm trying to create snd-dumy in the container
[18:58] <bencc> do I need to create it in the host?
[18:58] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-extra trusty
[18:58] <ikonia> bencc: that doesn't change what I said though
[18:58] <bhalash> On Unbuntu: I've used the distro religiously for a few years, but always on a server and at the CLI level. What is the desktop experience like these days. Has Unity improved?
[18:59] <ikonia> bhalash: try it and see, some people love it, others hate it
[18:59] <nomic> theres xubuntut if you want xfce
[18:59] <liann> hi
[18:59] <bhalash> ikonia: Yeah true, just been too busy lately to fire up a VM
[19:00] <sstory> I just installed 14.04 64bit on a Dell Lattitude E5500.  When I left mouse click on somethings it doesn't respond. Also the A key doesn't work. These worked on Win 7 before installing ubuntu. Any thoughts?
[19:00] <liann>  can someone teach me how to hack someone's facebook account ??
[19:00] <ikonia> liann: nope, don't ask again
[19:00] <liann> ok
[19:00] <derenir> bencc have you disable updates and security in apt.conf?
[19:00] <liann> what cool thing can i do with ubuntu ?
[19:01] <bhalash> liann: Does you keyboard work under another OS or software configuration?
[19:01] <ikonia> liann: use it and find out
[19:01] <derenir> bencc have you disable updates and security in source.list?
[19:01] <bhalash> liann: Is the problem specific to the Ubuntu desktop only?
[19:01] <ikonia> bhalash: he's asking how to hack facebook accounts, nothing to do with keyboards
[19:01] <bhalash> ikonia: D'oh, meant that for sstory
[19:01] <bhalash> ikonia: Sorry!
[19:01] <ikonia> oops
[19:01] <ikonia> no need for sorry, it's a busy channel
[19:02] <bhalash> sstory: Is the problem specific to the Ubuntu desktop? Does your keyboard work fine under Windows still?
[19:02] <sstory> bhalash As stated in the OP, it had windows 7 on it a few minutes ago with no problems with that.
[19:02] <liann> bhalash: what cool can i do with ubuntu ?
[19:02] <sstory> Win 7 gone. I allowed ubuntu to overwrite
[19:02] <ikonia> liann: use it and find out
[19:02] <liann> ikonia: how ?
[19:02] <ikonia> liann: https://help.ubuntu.com
[19:02] <ikonia> liann: gives you some idea how to use the desktop environment
[19:03] <bhalash> sstory: Could be a drive or config issue. How comfortable are you with console commands?
[19:03] <liann> ikonia: ok
[19:03] <bhalash> sstory: My first reflex would be to kill the desktop environent and see if the keyboard works in a raw terminal
[19:03] <sstory> bhalash: I am a net admin and work with Linux, just not much with Ubuntu
[19:03] <Herte454> Hi. I am new to creating packages and my question is what pbuilder makes? So, why is a build environment needed?
[19:03] <sstory> bhalash: If I go to tty1, the a key still doesn't work.
[19:04] <bogdan> Ikonia can you install arch linux :) ?
[19:04] <bhalash> sstory: Gotcha, that narrows down the problem. Give me a second to pull up a link. I had this problem a few weeks ago
[19:04] <YamakasY> can I pipe existing logging from software like /var/log/software/log.log to a remote server too ?
[19:04] <ikonia> bogdan: join the archlinux channel and read the archlinux docuentation
[19:04] <bhalash> sstory: Is your keyboard non-English?
[19:04] <ikonia> bogdan: as you've been told multiple times now this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY
[19:05] <sstory> bhalash: it isn't just a. It is a,q and Z.  No my keyboard is English. I specified English and English layout.  What the installer may have done, I'm not sure if otherwise.  The onboard keyboard allows typing an A
[19:05] <sstory> bhalash: i meant, on screen keyboard.
[19:06] <knob> Hey guys... got a question. I am using scp to copy data from one server to the other.   On the destination server, I am dropping the data into a mount point that is a second hdd.   Yet I see the main partition in that server filling up.
[19:06] <bhalash> sstory: Would ypu have the make and model of your laptop on hand?
[19:06] <Herte454> What happens if I type 'pbuilder-dist trusty create '?
[19:06] <knob> Is this a "buffer" that drops the data in there, and at some point transfers everything over to the destination mount point?
[19:06] <sstory> bhalash: Dell Lattitude E5500
[19:07] <naughty-1923> Who can i help me Debian grub repair ?
[19:07] <adminpidar> Hi
[19:07] <OerHeks> YamakasY, edit /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf to change the destination, old howto but still valid i think http://www.randomhacks.co.uk/how-to-configure-an-ubuntu-server-to-log-to-a-remote-syslog-server/
[19:07] <adminpidar> Can you help me with problem?
[19:07] <bhalash> sstory: Try running sudo apt-get install console-common as root
[19:07] <naughty-1923> Who can help me Debian grub repair ?
[19:07] <adminpidar> What the dick I was banned?
[19:08]  * naughty-1923 Who can help me Debian grub repair ?
[19:08] <bhalash> sstory: That should trigger configuration for console variables like keyboard
[19:08] <OerHeks> naughty-1923, try #debian
[19:08] <thiuop> That's so cool
[19:08] <naughty-1923> oo thanks OerHeks
[19:08] <bhalash> sstory: May not work for you, but it nailed the problem for me
[19:08] <naughty-1923> i am new :)
[19:08] <YamakasY> OerHeks: can be done for every logfile ?
[19:09] <OerHeks> YamakasY, yes i believe so.
[19:10] <sstory> bhalash:  Trying... give me a sec because the ! also doesn't work and I need it....must use from on screen keyboard.  It is that whole left row of keys.
[19:10] <knob> Guys, any thoughts in having scp drop a "buffer" into the main partition, instead of the destination?
[19:11] <YamakasY> OerHeks: mhh cannot find it :(
[19:11] <bhalash> sstory: Not able to paste? :(
[19:11] <bhalash> sstory: Duh, different machines. Sorry. Keyboard problems suck
[19:11] <thiuop> Remember Sears back in the hayday. You could buy anything from them. Tractors houses plows. Then came the liberals unions. Ruined America.
[19:12] <sstory> bhalash: when every command seems to need an a it is difficult. I have that running now.
[19:13] <sstory> bhalash:  I assume to choose keymap, and pc/qwerty/US american/Std/Std? Correct?
[19:13] <bhalash> There may be a choice for Dell Latitude
[19:14] <YamakasY> buy a lenovo :D
[19:14] <bhalash> sstory: There may be a choice for a Dell Latitude
[19:15] <rocfig__> Anyone can offer some assistance with partitions on mac? tried to install ubuntu, ended up losing my main mac partition. Re-installed mac from recovery on disk0s2, now I'm missing about 100gb of hard drive space and can't figure out how to recover. Was trying to install ubuntu off usb. Booted into it, must've fucked something up in the partitioning there during install.
[19:15] <luiz> Hi, has someone installed Python here?
[19:15] <ioria> luiz i think is pre-installed
[19:16] <bhalash> luiz: It comes installed
[19:16] <sstory> bhalash: I don't see anything for Dell.  I have qwerty std, or ISO 8859-1 or ISO 8859-15
[19:16] <luiz> I'm having an issue, I can't install Packages using pip after installing pip...
[19:16] <sstory> bhalash: I have no idea which of those I might need
[19:16] <ioria> !info python-pip
[19:17] <luiz> I get: Exception:
[19:17] <luiz> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:17] <luiz>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pip/basecommand.py", line 122, in main
[19:17] <luiz>     status = self.run(options, args)
[19:17] <luiz>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pip/commands/install.py", line 283, in run
[19:17] <luiz> (...)
[19:17] <ioria> !paste | luiz
[19:17] <bhalash> sstory: Pick en-us when in doubt
[19:18] <aq2> luiz: maybe you should go to a python channel to ask about that?
[19:18] <luiz> Where? In python.org ?
[19:19] <aq2> #python is the offical one
[19:19] <ioria> luiz  #python
[19:19] <Jordan_U> rocfig__: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[19:19] <aq2> its pretty big like this channel
[19:19] <aq2> ##learnpython is smaller if you want that
[19:19] <intrigus> OerHeks thanks for helping :)
[19:19] <sstory> bhalash:  I did. It had already said it was us and qwerty. I tried standard. That didn't help.  now that I have installed console-common how do I run it again to choose something else?
[19:20] <bhalash> sstory: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[19:20] <luiz> Sorry, it's the first time I'm using this chat
[19:20] <ioria> luiz  oh, you mean you can't install Any package after installing pip ?
[19:21] <defcon6> How do I remove this annoying error message that pops up whenever I log in about a system error from gnome-keyring-daemon. I checked the logs and this the message in the logs: gnome-keyring-daemon[1506]: couldn't access control socket: /run/user/1000/keyring/control: No such file or directory
[19:21] <hanshuber> Hi! I have some weird black strokes on my laptop screen. It looks like something is broken. How do I find out if its a failure of the graphics card or the screen itself?
[19:23] <n1ghtmar3> ok
[19:23] <sstory> bhalash: That did open and give me an option of Dell Latitude Laptop. I chose that and English. However those keys still don't work.
[19:23] <bhalash> hanshuber: Kill the dekstop or reboot
[19:23] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: What does the screen look like in "recovery mode" from grub's boot menu ?
[19:24] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: I don't know - didn't test yet. But I was in BIOS before and the black strokes have been there too.
[19:25] <hanshuber> bhalash: Thanks for the tip - I restarted the laptop a few times already and the strokes are still there.
[19:25] <AndroUser> hallo
[19:26] <neo_> hi
[19:26] <bhalash> sstory: Try udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change
[19:26] <sstory> bhalash: rebooting, just in case it might help
[19:26] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: Does not good for the home team . Hardware failure ? What does the display also look like booting a liveDVD ? // Is this a laptop machine ?
[19:27] <bhalash> hanshuber: Different OS? I mean, it's either a driver issue or the hardware has crapped out, and it's easy to check if it is a driver problem
[19:27] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Yes its a laptop
[19:28] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: bhalash: The strokes appear also in BIOS. So I don't think its a driver isse
[19:28] <hanshuber> issu
[19:28] <hanshuber> issue
[19:29] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: As the problem exists in the bios screen - before any operating system is loaded - indicates hardware issue or perhaps a bios issue .
[19:29] <sstory> bhalash: didn't work either.
[19:29] <marcel_> hey guys
[19:29] <sstory> bhalash: Was that supposed to return output? I am executing it via sudo. Was that correct?
[19:30] <Bashing-om> marcel_: What's up ?
[19:30] <bhalash> sstory: The command sholdn't return any output
[19:30] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Right now I think it's a display problem
[19:30] <bhalash> sstory: The command sholdn't return any output. You can verify it ran cleanly with echo $? after
[19:30] <sstory> bhalash: 0
[19:31] <bhalash> sstory: Then it ran cleanly.
[19:31] <bhalash> That should've reloaded the driver
[19:31] <bhalash> This sounds like a really frigging bizarre problem
[19:31] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: A thought, bios based machine ? Perhaps in bios allocate additional memory to the graphics adapator ?
[19:31] <sstory> bhalash: well I also rebooted. That should have reloaded anything, correct?
[19:31] <PHroGman>  "apt-get -q -y -f auto remove  "Can someone tell me what this command does?
[19:32] <PHroGman> not sure what q y and f are for
[19:32] <Myrtti> quiet, assume yes, force
[19:32] <bhalash> sstory: Some suggestions from the Ubuntu forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2041483
[19:32] <Myrtti> so it's uninstalling stuff, without telling you what it is, answering yes to all questions for you, and forcing if everything else fails
[19:32] <bhalash> sstory: There was also a suggestion to check the keyboard settings, if any, in your BIOS
[19:32] <Geo> Hello, I'm trying to create a reverse tunnel using "ssh -g -R 192.168.1.150:5000:192.168.180.136:5000 geo@192.168.1.150" However, it is only binding to 127.0.0.1 on the remote host, as opposed to any other valid address I try. Any ideas on what I need to change?
[19:33] <sstory> bhalash: Thanks! I will check all of that out.
[19:33] <PHroGman> Is it safe for cleaning up your system?
[19:33] <bhalash> sstory: np, best of luck solving it!
[19:33] <bhalash> sstory: Could be your keyboard just randomly died
[19:34] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: OK I will try this. I am using the machine since 6 years, and suddenly today when I turned it own this strokes appear...
[19:34] <Myrtti> PHroGman: I wouldn't use it
[19:34] <PHroGman> Why?
[19:34] <Myrtti> PHroGman: apt-get auto-remove is safe, but I'd want to see what is happening, AND make the decisions as they come, if there's any
[19:35] <compdoc> yeah, I never use -y
[19:35] <PHroGman> Ok thanks
[19:36] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: A few days ago I experienced a prolonged power outage, once I booted back up .. I had to go back and reset ALL my bios settings. All manner of things had changed . A similar experience with you ?
[19:36] <YamakasY> compdoc always uses -n and never trie to intall anything
[19:36] <YamakasY> tries
[19:36] <compdoc> quiet, you
[19:36]  * YamakasY -v compdoc 
[19:36] <PHroGman> How do you clean up your system?
[19:36] <YamakasY> PHroGman: rm -rf /*
[19:37] <Bashing-om> !danger
[19:37] <YamakasY> Bashing-om: that does clean up your system tho
[19:37] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Not sure - I don't think there was a power outage. I will check out the BIOS settings.
[19:37] <SorcerousFox> it does a good job at it too :P
[19:37] <PHroGman> Ithat wipes your system right?
[19:38] <__Mike__> hello all
[19:38] <herol3oy> hi, I'd like to ask a social question about linux! i just started to google how can i run a career with linux but it seems it's only SysAdmin out there as a occupation? is that all?
[19:38] <__Mike__> how can I do a universal search in ubuntu mate for a program I just installed via the terminal
[19:38] <PHroGman> seriously what command would you use on occasion to clean up your system
[19:38] <YamakasY> PHroGman: no need to
[19:38] <bekks> PHroGman: There is no such thing as a single command.
[19:38] <Bashing-om> hanshuber: As the problem exists at the bios screen level, does indicate hardware issue ( loose cable ??) or 'maybe" a setting in bios IRT graphics .
[19:38] <aaron> need help
[19:39] <YamakasY> bekks: hehe, some new Linux user that thinks he can super clean a clean system
[19:39] <__Mike__> I install gparted and it installed fine, but I can't figure out how to format a usb flash drive
[19:39] <YamakasY> !fail
[19:39] <bekks> YamakasY: You failed, epically, in suggesting nonsense as you did above.
[19:40] <Guest72636> my kubuntu hdmi sound is working with test etc but does not seem to work for anything else
[19:40] <KNUBBIG> I'm sorry I still don't get it - if I -A rules to the INPUT chain, and none of those rules matches an incoming packet, shouldn't it be accepted if the policy is set to ACCEPT?
[19:40] <hanshuber> Bashing-om: Yeah I thought about a loose cable... I will dismantle the laptop and give it a try (it's a dell so this shouldn't be a problem=
[19:41] <cyclick> I set ubuntu to use Dolphin (file manager) for everything but the trash icon in the bottom left corner opens it as Trash:/// and it should be Trash:/ when using Dolphin otherwise I get an error... how can I change that?
[19:41] <KNUBBIG> oh wow
[19:41] <KNUBBIG> nvm
[19:41] <YamakasY> bekks: cleaning up a linux system is emptying it, there is no such thing of cleaning up such system, period
[19:41] <KNUBBIG> I'm an idiot
[19:41] <A1F4> how to make new external hard disk secure using file system or encryption or password protection under ubuntu ?
[19:42] <sstory> bhalash: keyboard didn't work for 'a' in the Asset tag of BIOS either.  External USB keyboard does. I assume that means onboard keyboard has died?
[19:42] <__Mike__> brb - have to go back into openSUSE to fix something..
[19:42] <cyclick> apt-get autoclean ; apt-get autoremove cleans it somewhat
[19:42] <A1F4> which one is best or other ways also possibles ?
[19:42] <A1F4> please help
[19:42] <HackerII> sstory:  amazon time, prolly about $15
[19:43] <sstory> HackerII: OK. Thanks!
[19:43] <HackerII> np
[19:43] <bekks> YamakasY: No one doubts that. I just critizied your behaviour, especially towards a newbie.
[19:48] <IceNine> question, how can i override the auto mount of a local ntfs drive so it mounts with 755 instead of just 700
[19:49] <EriC^^> IceNine: disks program
[19:50] <bhalash> IceNine: umask in fstab
[19:50] <Skyrider> if I set a directory to 777 so all users can read/write to it.. how would I make it so that every single directory that gets created inside that 777 directory also auto-gets 777 chmod rights?
[19:51] <EriC^^> Skyrider: what's the purpose of the directory?
[19:51] <Skyrider> Samba share.
[19:51] <cyclick> skyrider something like this: chmod g+rwxs dirname
[19:51] <IceNine> eric^^ - i don't see any permissions in the disks program
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Skyrider: ^ and what is the file system of the directory ?
[19:52] <EriC^^> IceNine: there's a settings icon that looks like a gear that has mount options
[19:52] <Skyrider> Bashing-om: come again?
[19:52] <IceNine> i'm there
[19:52] <EriC^^> select the partition and click on it
[19:52] <EriC^^> IceNine: ok, add the mount options to it
[19:52] <EriC^^> like a normal fstab options
[19:53] <Bashing-om> Skyrider: NTFS ? Does not support linux POSIX . To change access then one has to jump through some hoops in /tc/fstab .
[19:53] <IceNine> i'm super new to this, ;) to the GOOGLE
[19:53] <YamakasY> bekks: he actually knew what the command was, it's good :)
[19:54] <bekks> YamakasY: Not good, since others may not, and execute it.
[19:55] <Skyrider> that g +ewxs didn't work I'm afraid, even with -R
[19:55] <herol3oy_> hi, SysAdmin is that all as a career in linux society? (i couldn't find any other job or business, for example, i can run after learning linux!!!)
[19:56] <Skyrider> But when I use "sudo chmod -R 777 TV" it appears to work.
[19:56] <Skyrider> But, if the laptop user adds a new directory inside the samba share, it won't be 777
[19:56] <bekks> herol3oy_: Maybe your question is better suited in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:56] <herol3oy_> bekks: ;)
[19:57] <EriC^^> Skyrider: you have to change the umask
[19:57] <EriC^^> Skyrider: set umask=000
[19:58] <EriC^^> IceNine: you need to set dmask=755 and fmask=755
[19:58] <EriC^^> umask is what controls newly created files
[19:59] <EriC^^> ( it's inversely set though, whatever you give it takes away from the permissions, like umask=007 will let created files have 770 as perms
[20:00] <Skyrider> Thanks, I shall try.
[20:01] <EriC^^> IceNine: sorry, dmask and fmask are also inversely set, so you need dmask=022 and fmask=022
[20:01] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: I got it down to this: no errors on update and this one on upgrade http://paste.ubuntu.com/14450628/
[20:02] <YamakasY> bekks: than they didn't read the manual at all
[20:02] <YamakasY> bekks: you never learned by trail and error ?
[20:02] <IceNine> tbh, i'm kind of lost here Eric^^ :|
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Look'n at http://paste.ubuntu.com/14450628/ .
[20:03] <EriC^^> IceNine: what are the current options in disks?
[20:03] <bekks> YamakasY: You are telling others dangerous commands. So there is no point in discussing this any further. Please just stop behaving like that.
[20:04] <YamakasY> bekks: it's not dangerous! walking over a street without looking left/right first is dangerous
[20:05] <YamakasY> bekks: you started the discussion actually because you don't know the difference about dangerous and wrong ;)
[20:05] <YamakasY> *between
[20:05] <IceNine> http://imgur.com/sWlFxub
[20:05] <IceNine> Eric^^
[20:06] <EriC^^> IceNine: ok, add after x-gvfs-show, ,dmask=022,fmask=022,umask=022
[20:06] <EriC^^> all files and dirs and newly created files will be 755
[20:06] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: As we have " Stale file handle " let's try and rebuild the package list : ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sudo apt-get update ' . Keeping in mind that a full upgrade ( sudo apt full-upgrade ) might also address this issue .
[20:07] <EriC^^> IceNine: you can also set the owner and group the files will be mounted as using uid=<uid> and gid=<gid>
[20:07] <bekks> YamakasY: You started it with your behaviour. To shorten this up: ignore set.
[20:07] <EriC^^> like uid=1000,gid=1000
[20:07] <YamakasY> haha, he ignores me LOL, won't help anyone else as he tries to state :P
[20:08] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: Should I try a full upgrade first or it's not gonna fly without a rebuild you think?
[20:08] <IceNine> eric^^, thank you
[20:09] <EriC^^> IceNine: no problem
[20:09] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Well, I am of the oponion that the full upgrade should be applied in any case .. that will adress the "packages have been kept back" and install the latest kernel .
[20:10] <Jordan_U> YamakasY: Telling a user to run such a command is unacceptable. Please join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss your ban.
[20:11] <Vey> hi guys!
[20:11] <amr> hmm, my cpu scaling doesnt change when i unplug/plug in my laptop's ac
[20:11] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: the first rm command came back as can not remove the google plugin
[20:11] <amr> laptop-mode-tools seems to need restarting each time
[20:12] <Vey> I need some help here...
[20:12] <EriC^^> with what Vey ?
[20:12] <Vey> I have created a bootable usb stick but when I tried to boot... I got this "failed to load ldlinux.c32" thingy
[20:13] <Vey> its driving crazy lol
[20:13] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14450770/
[20:13] <bekks> Vey: How did you create the usb stick?
[20:13] <Vey> using rufus
[20:13] <EriC^^> try dd
[20:13] <Vey> and the ubuntu iso
[20:13] <Vey> ohhh
[20:13] <Vey> dd...
[20:13] <Vey> aight i give it another try
[20:13] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync
[20:14] <EriC^^> give it the usb device not the partition ( /dev/sdX not /dev/sdxY )
[20:14] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Ouch .. As advised earlier .. I can not come up with a reliable means to cope with the google's talkplugin . I can not determine the best means to remove/re-install it .
[20:14] <EriC^^> Vey: might as well checksum the iso if you haven't too
[20:14] <EriC^^> md5sum /path/to/iso
[20:15] <EriC^^> !hashes | Vey and check here to see if it's equal
[20:16] <Vey> ahhh... can you guys tell me something in english? XD
[20:16] <Volkodav> Bashing-om: OK - I'll get back to it tomorrow - thanks for your time anyway
[20:16] <Bashing-om> Volkodav: Let's presume that there is a problem with google's server . uncheck that source in software center .. and try to remove/rebuild the list files .
[20:17] <Vey> im creating the bootable usb stick again with dd mode this time...
[20:17] <EriC^^> Vey: type md5sum /path/to/iso
[20:17] <EriC^^> dd mode?
[20:17] <Vey> where do i type the command?
[20:18] <bekks> Vey: In a terminal.
[20:18] <EriC^^> are you in ubuntu?
[20:18] <Vey> yea after i press the create button... rufus asked for iso mode or dd mode
[20:18] <Vey> no im in window and trying to create a bootable ubuntu usb stick
[20:18] <Vey> sorry i wasnt clear earlier
[20:19] <EriC^^> oh ok
[20:19] <EriC^^> !checksum | Vey follow the last link to checksum the iso
[20:19] <ioria> Vey why don't you use dd directly from terminal ?
[20:20] <EriC^^> Vey: if it checks out ok, then try the dd mode, if that doesn't work try another usb, lots of times people have reported that error and it was a bad usb
[20:20] <amr> if i watch `cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode` wen unplugging from AC, it never gets enabled
[20:20] <amr> :|
[20:20] <IceNine> super thanks Eric^^, even managed to change the mount name to the label instead of UUID
[20:20] <EriC^^> IceNine: cool, no problem :)
[20:21] <Vey> this is the 2nd usb i tried. the first one just shoots me with "boot failed" 2 words and nothing else
[20:21] <Vey> the 2nd usb gave me ldlinux.c32 thing
[20:22] <Vey> if i use dd mode to create the stick and after its complete... windows unable to recognize the file format and asked to format? is that normal?
[20:22] <ioria> Vey why don't you use dd directly from terminal ?
[20:22] <EriC^^> yeah, that could happen
[20:22] <EriC^^> ioria: he's on windows
[20:23] <Vey> ioria im on windows
[20:23] <EriC^^> apparently rufus has a "dd mode"
[20:23] <ioria> EriC^^, sorry all
[20:23] <EriC^^> no worries
[20:23] <ioria> EriC^^, he could use msys :þ
[20:23] <Vey> msys?
[20:23] <ioria> Vey let it go
[20:24] <Vey> frozen
[20:25] <OerHeks> can rufus sync too ?
[20:26] <ioria> Vey  if you install MinGw on windows you'll have also msys ... it's something like cygwin ... but too much trouble for a usb ... maybe linuxpendrive is better
[20:28] <Vey> ioria: thanks but im too noob to understand what you talking about lol...im new to ubuntu and now Im figuring out how do i get it to boot from a usb stick
[20:28] <Vey> i need ubuntu to configure hdd for xbox one
[20:28] <andree> ciao
[20:28] <ioria> Vey   http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[20:28] <andree> !list
[20:29] <allizom> !it | andree
[20:29] <Vey> ioria i follow that guide and i got some problems so i came here for help and someone suggest i try rufus
[20:29] <ioria> Vey   ho, really ?
[20:30] <Vey> yea i was here since 2 days ago... lol
[20:30] <ioria> Vey weird
[20:30] <OerHeks> most of the time it is your antivirus in windows that prevents writing a bootsector :-D
[20:30] <EriC^^> rufus is inspired by ruffies, you try to make an iso with it until you fall asleep and pass out
[20:30] <Vey> ok im done creating in dd mode... now i gonna give it a shot again...
[20:30] <EriC^^> i think
[20:31] <BluesKaj> !ppa > BluesKaj
[20:31] <Vey> see you guys later...
[20:31] <EriC^^> haha xD
[20:33] <asdzxc> hello
[20:34] <Vey> arrgghhhhhhhhh
[20:34] <Vey> failed
[20:34] <Vey> this time "ldlinux.c32 is missing or corrupted"
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> !find ldlinux
[20:35] <EriC^^> did you checksum the iso?
[20:35] <Vey> doing it now
[20:36] <SorcerousFox> Besides checksumming the iso I would also like to ask what brand flash drive you're using?
[20:36] <Abe_> where can I fin the right driver for an HP ENVY 4524, the driver in the repo works but the scanner doesn't
[20:36] <SorcerousFox> I had issues recently with sandisk ones getting ubuntu to install
[20:36] <Vey> kingmax
[20:36] <nudoge> MonkeyDust: the chattr'd file
[20:36] <Vey> sandisks are terrible
[20:44] <amr> im sort of struggling w/ how pm-utils and laptop-mode-tools interact
[20:45] <procop> alright everybody freeze
[20:45] <EriC^^> is this a stick up?
[20:46] <procop> just an interogation
[20:46] <procop> is there a difference in easy and/or stability of upgrading from a random non-LTS version to the next LTS version and from the last LTS version to the next LTS version?
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> procop  lts is the reason ... longer support
[20:46] <procop> in ease*
[20:46] <OerHeks> LTS > LTS is supported, not sure what version you want to upgrade to LTS
[20:47] <procop> MonkeyDust: yeah sure, but still is there a difference in upgrading processes
[20:47] <MonkeyDust> procop  guess not, as fresh instakllation is preferred
[20:47] <Myrtti> procop: if you would've asked last March, this question would've been given a different answer
[20:47] <procop> OerHeks: like for example is it as easy to upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 LTS as it is from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS
[20:47] <OerHeks> sure
[20:47] <procop> Myrtti: ok, interesting, why_
[20:48] <procop> OerHeks: are you so sure?
[20:48] <Myrtti> procop: but right now, as it stands, the upgrade to the next LTS is the valid and direct upgrade route from the current supported non-LTS
[20:48] <compdoc> cantr wait for 16.04 :)
[20:48] <procop> MonkeyDust seems to disagree
[20:48] <OerHeks> procop, just set to the newest LTS version in updates section
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> procop  opinions can differ
[20:48] <procop> Myrtti: ah i see, perfect!
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> compdoc: you can test alpha1 right now, see #ubuntu+1
[20:49] <procop> well sounds good guys
[20:50] <procop> so i can safely install the latest 15.10 now and i wont have any more trouble updating to 16.04 LTS than if i installed the old 14.04
[20:51] <amr> i think the default laptop_mode script in pm-utils from ubuntu is... crap
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> procop: upgrades can always be tricky, never say never..
[20:51] <procop> amr: watch your language there sport!
[20:51] <procop> lotuspsychje: but is there a difference?
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> procop: backups are very recommended
[20:51] <procop> yeah
[20:51] <MonkeyDust> procop  why are you asking, what are you struggling with
[20:51] <chanty-wrassler> Anybody tried installing Skype recently? I did and I got the spanish version :-(
[20:52] <procop> i mean it's possible that the ubuntu foudnation defines a supported and tested upgrade process only from LTS to LTS
[20:52] <procop> and not from any random non-LTS to LTS
[20:52] <procop> that's why i asked
[20:52] <procop> MonkeyDust: i am deciding which version to install now
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> chanty-wrassler  activate partner repo, then: sudo apt update; sudo apt install skype
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> procop: ask yourself, what you really want? LTS or non-LTS?
[20:52] <procop> i wouls rather go with the lower risk route
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> 14.04 here
[20:53] <procop> lotuspsychje: i want 16.04 eventually
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> procop: LTS to LTS= stable
[20:53] <procop> lotuspsychje: but in the meantime i want the newer version if and only if it doesnt come at a greater upgrading risk
[20:53] <procop> lotuspsychje: are you implying non-LTS to LTS = possibly not so stable?
[20:54] <chanty-wrassler> MonkeyDust:   thats what I did ...   followed http://tipsonubuntu.com/2015/03/24/install-skype-4-3-in-ubuntu-15-04/
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> procop: things can go wrong sometimes, but that doesnt mean it has to be that case
[20:54] <procop> i'm just interested in knowing whether there is a more tested upgrade path or anything like that
[20:54] <procop> lotuspsychje: yeah thats an obvious truism that applies to like everything in this universe
[20:54] <procop> i'm just interested in knowing whether there is a more tested upgrade path or anything like that though
[20:54] <chanty-wrassler> can specify a language with apt-get install?
[20:55] <EriC^^> procop: why don't you consider fresh installing when 16.04 comes out?
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> procop: listen mate, if you want to be 100% safe, go for a nice clean install
[20:55] <EriC^^> i know i'll be fresh installing 16.04 when it does, using 14.04 now
[20:55] <procop> EriC^^: because it would mean i have to setup everything again? takes time i want to avoid
[20:55] <OerHeks> procop, those upgrade paths are tested enough
[20:55] <procop> so you guys are saying there is no official upgrade path actually_
[20:55] <procop> ?
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> procop: aptoncd to the rescue
[20:55] <OerHeks> procop, stop trolling, we told you there is
[20:55] <procop> OerHeks: from any version to LTS or only from LTS?
[20:56] <OerHeks> read back plese
[20:56] <procop> OerHeks: no it's definitely not trolling.... there are differeing opinions, not just yours
[20:56] <procop> OerHeks: sorry for not just taking what YOU told me
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | procop
[20:57] <OerHeks> read the wiki then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[20:57] <procop> so basically you just dont know
[20:57] <procop> fair enough
[20:57] <OerHeks> ty MonkeyDust
[20:57] <procop> no risk no fun
[20:57] <procop> still I tried
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> procop: whats you end goal with asking this all? to have 100% control nothing goes wrong?
[20:58] <EriC^^> procop: if you look into why you can jump from one lts straight to the next using the upgrade manager it might show you insight into which is better
[20:58] <EriC^^> ( report back )
[20:58] <procop> lotuspsychje: as i told you SERVERAL TIMES: to minimize upgrade fuckup risk
[20:58] <procop> ok thanks EriC^^
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> i'm happy with 14.04
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> we plan having children in the near future
[21:00] <Vey> where do i find the hashes for this file ubuntu-14.10-desktop-amd64.iso?
[21:00] <lotuspsychje> procop: every system is different, with ltos of different packages, some added ppa's and other mnual stuff...things can go wrong sometimes, you cant minimize a brake risk
[21:00] <EriC^^> Vey: that's eol bro
[21:00] <EriC^^> Vey: download 14.04 or 15.10
[21:00] <Vey> eol?
[21:00] <Vey> argghhhhh
[21:00] <EriC^^> yes, it's a dead release
[21:01] <Vey> =.="
[21:02] <geirha> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/utopic/
[21:02] <EriC^^> ^ that's just for kicks though, don't install it even if it checks out
[21:02] <geirha> ^ What he said
[21:03] <Vey> redownloading....
[21:03] <amr> so reinstalling laptop mode tools didnt work
[21:05] <Vey> anyone owns xbox one here?
[21:06] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Vey
[21:07] <Vey> sorry if its abit off topic... but to fix and replace a new hdd for xbox one, the partitions needs ubuntu to create it properly
[21:09] <lotuspsychje> Vey: maybe the ##xbox channel knows more of the partitioning of it?
[21:10] <OerHeks> Vey, remove all partitions and mbr, and plug it in, xbox formats in its own way
[21:13] <Abe_> got it running
[21:15] <lou__> Hello, i use wine to emule "heidiSql" on my unbutu but it consume loooot of CPU ( i5-4210h 2.9gzh / 3.5 ) it takes 94% of they four core ... do you have a soluce ?
[21:16] <EriC^^> !info heidisql
[21:16] <lou__> its an windows app
[21:16] <lotuspsychje> lou__: maybe find an ubuntu alternative for that?
[21:16] <EriC^^> is there a linux equivalent?
[21:16] <Aion_NL> Hello , good evening everybody. i have a question about one of my ubuntu computers and i was wondering if someone could help me along . ill write my question in the next line.
[21:17] <lou__> i have search for, but they are more complicated than heidisql
[21:18] <Aion_NL> I am running ubuntu server 15.10 on a N3700-matx, this board only had 2 sata ports so i bought a delock pci-e sata card (2 ports) , i plugged in my new hard drives , however it looks like the card is not being detected. I tried looking with lspci -v / lsusb -v etc but i cannot see it , am i doing something wrong ? could someone point me in the right direction. Thank you :)
[21:18] <lou__> linux have mysql workbench, but you are obliged to write sql script for show a table or modify, can't modify by ui
[21:20] <lotuspsychje> Aion_NL: non-lts is not very recommended to use on a server tried LTS before?
[21:20] <amr> turns out ubuntu's laptop-mode-tools is crippled
[21:20] <amr> i installed debian sid's version, and it works perfect
[21:20] <amr> i can now unplug my ac and the correct action is taken
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> nice workaround
[21:28] <lotuspsychje> lou__: doublecheck all these perhaps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/459074/how-to-install-heidisql-on-ubuntu
[21:30] <lotuspsychje> lou__: or play around with this? http://dbeaver.jkiss.org/
[21:32] <lou__> i have install wine for heidiSql, but it use 94% of my cpu ....
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> lou__: yes, you already said that
[21:33] <EriC^^> lou__: if you're absolutely set on using heidisql you could limit the cpu time it gets with cpulimit, if another workaround or fix isn't available
[21:33] <lou__> thank you for your response, i'm watching for dbeaver ! :)
[21:35] <lotuspsychje> lou__: SQuirrel looks also promising
[21:35] <lou__> ok, i'm going to looking for limite cpu or use dbeaver so, thank you for these possibilities // I have already test SquirrelSQl, but don't want to launch mysql session :/
[21:42] <lotuspsychje> lou__: found 2 more: razorsql and DbVisualizer for linux
[21:44] <lou__> Dbeaver looks good for why i want, i think !
[21:44] <lotuspsychje> !yay | lou__
[21:45] <lou__> i will see these two more, maybe they are better ! ( sorry for my english )
[21:47] <IceNine> am i being dense, the ssh command is "ssh user@host port" no?
[21:47] <bekks> IceNine: No.
[21:47] <bekks> IceNine: ssh -p port user@host or ssh -p port -l user host
[21:48] <IceNine> thanks
[21:51] <mikubuntu> this page won't let me escape, has audio to go along with it warning me to call the microsoft technicians http://ibin.co/2SuGjU9WckuA
[21:52] <bekks> mikubuntu: And whats the ubuntu relevance at that point?
[21:53] <lou__> test : ctrl+w or open process of chrome
[21:55] <nchambers> can someone help me with this? https://bpaste.net/show/5109ea6b81e4 I get it when trying to erase the flashdrive using usb-creator-gtk
[21:55] <lou__> lotuspsychje, thank you for dbeaver, this is great and have a dark theme so i can watch it all the night ! :D
[21:55] <mikubuntu> bekks -- i've never in my life had this problem on ubuntu (or any linux) :: heres the dialog box: http://ibin.co/2SuHlnnktDfO i had to shut the computer down and switch from chrome to chromium to get away from it. running lubuntu 14.04.
[21:55] <lotuspsychje> lou__: welcome
[21:56] <lotuspsychje> nchambers: wich ubuntu version and wich iso are you trying?
[21:56] <nchambers> oh man I asked in the wrong os channel. my bad
[22:01] <lou__> i have a new stupid question ... in ubuntu mate version (15) we have no logithèque to uninstall package, so how we can do that ?
[22:02] <ikonia> lou__: the package manager has install/uninstall options
[22:02] <ikonia> I don't know what a logitheque is
[22:03] <lou__> what is its name ? / logithèque in french, i dont' know is name in english
[22:03] <ikonia> software center ?
[22:03] <lou__> yes !
[22:03] <bekks> lou__: Terminal, sudo apt-get :)
[22:03] <lotuspsychje> MikeBones: the page mentions spyware for windows..and your on lubuntu
[22:03] <lou__> i'm not sure to doing this right with command line ..
[22:05] <lou__> synaptic have a UI for uninstall package ?
[22:06] <bekks> lou__: sudo apt-get remove :)
[22:07] <lou__> oki oki, i will try like this, thanks :)
[22:11] <donald1> test
[22:12] <Gemm> hi
[22:13] <DrGreenthumb> Just bought a new hp envy 4502: Can anyone help me to install it with ubuntu? I have everything plugged in. Don't know where to go from here.  I think I installed the printer, but there was no searching for drivers.
[22:13] <Jordan_U> DrGreenthumb: How did you try to add the printer, and what happens when you try to print?
[22:14] <mikubuntu> i've never in my life had this problem on ubuntu (or any linux) :: heres the dialog box: http://ibin.co/2SuHlnnktDfO i had to shut the computer down and switch from chrome to chromium to get away from it. running lubuntu 14.04.
[22:14] <DrGreenthumb> Jordan_U: I go to system settings -> printers -> add
[22:15] <mikubuntu> this page won't let me escape, has audio to go along with it warning me to call the microsoft technicians http://ibin.co/2SuGjU9WckuA
[22:16] <Jordan_U> DrGreenthumb: I asked two questions; You only answered one of them.
[22:17] <lotuspsychje> mikubuntu: its a social engineering spyware page for windows..why do you even visit that url?
[22:18] <DrGreenthumb> Jordan_U: When I try to print, there is nothing happening.  That is why I assume I didn't set it up correctly.
[22:20] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: did you install hplip tools?
[22:23] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: I just got it to print.  Unfortunately, I made so many names for the printer and now I know which one to pick. My problem now is that I cannot scan.  Is this scanner even compatible with ubuntu?
[22:24] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: did you install hplip tools?
[22:24] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: no, how do I get that?
[22:25] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip | DrGreenthumb
[22:26] <DrGreenthumb> ubottu: I don't know which ubuntu version I have
[22:27] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: sudo apt-get install hplip
[22:27] <DrGreenthumb> thanks
[22:27] <DrGreenthumb> got it, now what?
[22:28] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: now open that hplip tools icon from dash, you can scan from there
[22:28] <DrGreenthumb> What's dash?
[22:28] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: start button left upper corner
[22:29] <lotuspsychje> !info hplip-gui | DrGreenthumb
[22:30] <DrGreenthumb> on the desktop?
[22:30] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: install that hplip-gui also please
[22:31] <DrGreenthumb> I see what 'dash' is.  I didn't know it had a name.
[22:31] <DrGreenthumb> I will get the gui as well
[22:32] <DrGreenthumb> I got the scan. the quality is atrocious.
[22:36] <DrGreenthumb> Is there something I did wrong for the scan quality to be so bad? Was is the way that I scanned the original page that it asked me to scan for alignment?
[22:36] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: i dont think its ubuntu related...the scanner can only scan right
[22:37] <DrGreenthumb> it's an all-in-one
[22:38] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: define 'bad' quality
[22:40] <tr0p1> hi, is there some apparmor knowledgeable person here?^^
[22:41] <tr0p1> i thought apparmor would be silent (in terms of not spamming my dmesg) if i use deny lines in my profiles...
[22:41] <DrGreenthumb> What I scan looks drastically different from the actual original page.
[22:42] <tr0p1> e.g. "deny /*^{home,home_unenc,usr,bin,lib,lib32,lib64,dev,proc,etc,tmp,sbin,var,run,sys,..,.}/ rw,"   I thought that would block all directories except the mentioned ones....   But somehow apparmor continues complaining :(
[22:43] <DrGreenthumb> Scanning a picture with solid color shows a lot of very small lines interrupting the solid color
[22:44] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: this printer/scanner is new or old?
[22:44] <mordor_> Hi happy new year
[22:44] <DrGreenthumb> Just bought 1 hour ago from MicroCenter
[22:45] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: what happens if you copy a document from the scanner to printer?
[22:45] <mordor_> I have a question, is it possible to use ubuntu server without video card? I used one to install ubuntu server, but when I removed my video card, the server don't work (can't connect with ssh)
[22:45] <GyrosGeier2> Hi
[22:46] <DrGreenthumb> hold on. I'll do it now
[22:46] <GyrosGeier2> I have a crash in a GTK app, probably because of Murrine
[22:46] <GyrosGeier2> is there an easy way to disable that for a specific app?
[22:47] <lotuspsychje> mordor_: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys can assist you better?
[22:48] <mordor_> lotuspsychje: you right, didn't know there is a separate channel for the server version, thanks
[22:48] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: Documents look fine, just pictures look horrible.
[22:49] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: did you allign the printer correctly?
[22:52] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: that is what I believe to be the problem.
[22:52] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: I thought it was done correctly, but if that's the case, how would I redo it?
[22:52] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: always allign the printer before you use the first time
[22:53] <DrGreenthumb> lotuspsychje: That's what I did first. But now I would like to give it a second try.  Do I delete the printer from my computer and then do it all over again?
[22:54] <lotuspsychje> DrGreenthumb: no, just do the allugh process
[22:54] <lotuspsychje> allign
[22:54] <kvj> Which tool i should use to check if there is any problem in grub ?
[22:54] <bekks> kvj: Do you see any problems with grub? :)
[22:55] <kvj> Yes sometimes my OS dont starts
[22:56] <kvj> I get error - "Non system disk or disk-error , replace and strike any key when ready
[22:56] <bekks> kvj: Then your computer doesnt detect the disk, thats even before grub is started.
[22:56] <kvj> How can i resolve that ?
[22:57] <kvj> Is there any way to check my disk ?
[22:57] <bekks> kvj: Check the cabling before.
[22:58] <ChrissMejia> Hi I write this article about how to switch command and ctrl keys for Ubuntu and I will love some feedback https://chrissmejia.com/howto/swaps-the-ctrl-and-cmd-keys-in-ubuntu/
[22:58] <rob__> +kvj run Linux system rescue disk and check your drive
[22:59] <kvj> Rescue disk ?
[22:59] <rob__> +kvj https://www.system-rescue-cd.org/Download
[22:59] <kvj> Rob and bekk Where will i get this disk
[23:00] <rob__> +kvj when you boot up do you get the grub menu at all ? or dose it drop into busy box
[23:01] <kvj> Busy box
[23:01] <kvj> No menu
[23:02] <rob__> +kvj what version of ubuntu have you installed
[23:03] <kvj> 14
[23:03] <bekks> kvj: Which 14?
[23:04] <kvj> Ubuntu 14.03.3 LTS
[23:05] <rob__> +kvj boot off usb drive with a live version of ubuntu or system rescue . then run fsck.fiesystem your using
[23:06] <kvj> Run fsck ?
[23:07] <rob__> +kvj yes it will check the state of your filesystem for errors
[23:07] <kvj> How to run it ?
[23:08] <rob__> fsck.ext2 /dev/sda1
[23:08] <daftykins> boot the live session first, that'll keep you busy for a few minutes.
[23:08] <bekks> rob__: ouch
[23:08] <rob__> +bekks Ouch ??
[23:08] <kvj> ?
[23:08] <bekks> kvj: fsck /dev/sdXY where X is the device and Y the partition with the filesystem.
[23:09] <bekks> rob__: fsck.ext2 ? :P
[23:09] <bekks> kvj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[23:09] <daftykins> yeah ext2 is crazy talk.
[23:11] <rob__> +bekks ext2 was an example filesystem , given  corrected duley noted -t is the swithc to use
[23:11] <bekks> rob__: no switch needed when using fsck :)
[23:13] <asus_ux501> Trying to install Ubuntu on ASUS ZenBook Pro UX501VW-DS71T fails so far. I've used bootable usb, created in windows 10 (laptops original OS)
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  After a minute being on Ubuntu logo, it stops at following prompt:
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  BusyBox v1.21.1 (Ubuntu 1:1.21.0-1ubuntu1) built-in shell (ash)
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  Ether 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
[23:13] <asus_ux501>  (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system
[23:13] <rob__> +kvj , any way you need to boot from a live USB distro first
[23:15] <kvj> Thanks
[23:15] <kvj> :)
[23:15] <daftykins> asus_ux501: did you has the download to confirm it was ok? that more than likely is a bad flash drive prepare
[23:15] <daftykins> sorry *hash
[23:15] <rob__> +kvj once you done that get back to us
[23:16] <GyrosGeier2> is there an easy way to disable Murrine?
[23:16] <GyrosGeier2> https://errors.ubuntu.com/oops/3c74094e-b722-11e5-a3c1-fa163e525ba7
[23:16] <cyclick> I set Ubuntu to use Dolphin (file manager) for everything and it works mostly fine but the trash icon in the bottom left corner opens as Trash:/// and it should be Trash:/ when using Dolphin otherwise I get an error... how can I change what that icons launches?
[23:17] <kvj> rob__: i have only one partition on my system
[23:17] <asus_ux501> It's a new laptop, on my current laptop (dell inspiron) I did the same process 3 years ago, it worked perfectly well and I have been using ubuntu since.
[23:17] <kvj> What should be its name ? Sorry i dont know about it
[23:17] <daftykins> asus_ux501: times change.
[23:17] <asus_ux501> yes, I have hashed the ubuntu image. I have tried different distros with different flash drives
[23:18] <rob__> +kvj that one partition should show up as /dev/sda1
[23:18] <daftykins> asus_ux501: did any prep work fine on your other system?
[23:18] <rob__> +kvj to confirm that run sudo fdisk -l
[23:19] <kvj> rob__: I should run fsck /dev/sdXsda1?
[23:19] <mistralol> does anyone here know much about bugs.lunchpad?
[23:19] <asus_ux501> none of distros works. I have this http://hastebin.com/raw/oyunekuxoy you can check
[23:20] <asus_ux501> it's from centos crash report before installation, It went further than ubuntu in install process, but eventually failed.
[23:20] <mistralol> with bugs.lunchpad is it posisble to change a bug from new -> closed?
[23:20] <OerHeks> asus_ux501, there are a lot of known issues with UEFI and asus zen, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/1261465
[23:20] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook
[23:20] <rob__> +kvj fsck /dev/sda1
[23:20] <daftykins> asus_ux501: what's all that?
[23:21] <daftykins> asus_ux501: ah well i'm not gonna look at CentOS pastes :)
[23:21] <kvj> rob__ i wont add my device name in it ?
[23:21] <daftykins> asus_ux501: is there a BIOS update for the system available?
[23:22] <rob__> +kvj what is the result of sudo fdisk -l
[23:22] <kvj> I run fsck /dev/sda1
[23:23] <kvj> I got warning : the file system is mounted . If you continue you * will * cause **** severe****  filesystem damage
[23:23] <bekks> kvj: SO boot a live medium.
[23:23] <asus_ux501> daftykins I'll check BIOS and report back
[23:23] <rob__> +kvj correct , have booted from a usb live
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> kvj  on't do fsck on a running system
[23:24] <rob__> +kvj run sudo umount /dev/sda1
[23:24] <bekks> rob__: you cant umount a running system.
[23:24] <robotdevil1> ikonia: worked great and quick but I did make the mistake of using the entire disk instead of just a partition
[23:24] <cookta2012> ok, my ssh is working, my sftp is not, and i see nothing in the auth logs to tell me why, when my sftp client says "Authtenticating with public key from agent" it just hangs. Ideas?
[23:24] <rob__> +bekks no you cant , but I have said boot from a usb key
[23:25] <ikonia> robotdevil1: great
[23:25] <bekks> rob__: In that case, you dont need to umount sda1 ;)
[23:25] <robotdevil1> ikonia: sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sdd1 bs=512 conv=noerror,sync
[23:25] <ikonia> that just makes an image
[23:25] <ikonia> I know how to use dd thanks
[23:25] <rob__> +bekks again your correct , but i currently I dont know what he has mounted
[23:26] <bekks> rob__: He isnt even using a live medium currently
[23:26] <rob__> +bekks I did as for out put of sudo fdisk -l
[23:26] <robotdevil1> fdisk first to check sector size
[23:27] <robotdevil1> Im posting for the good of the channel maybe
[23:27] <rob__> +kvj you must boot from a live cd or usb key please
[23:27] <kvj> Im not using live medium currently
[23:27] <kvj> Im running system on my hdd right now
[23:27] <robotdevil1> ikonia: thanks too though :)
[23:27] <bekks> kvj: Boot a live medium.
[23:27] <OerHeks> kvj, so don't waste your time then
[23:27] <ikonia> robotdevil1: others can't use that command
[23:27] <ikonia> robotdevil1: it woulc be specific to your system
[23:28] <kvj> OerHeks i get problem when i start my system
[23:28] <robotdevil1> right just an example
[23:28] <bekks> kvj: So boot a live medium.
[23:28] <kvj> Im not wasting anyones time
[23:28] <bekks> kvj: Err, negative. :)
[23:28] <kvj> Sorry
[23:29] <bekks> kvj: You have been told to boot a live medium long ago, so do it.
[23:29] <rob__> +bekks where from and what your background ??
[23:30] <asus_ux501> one question, in regards to UEFI and Asus not booting, would it help if I setup a PXE and boot via network?
[23:30] <daftykins> rob__: support only in here, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:30] <daftykins> asus_ux501: not a chance. did you try booting with any ACPI OSI kernel boot parameters? or... "nomodeset" ?
[23:31] <rob__> +daftykins cheers  for the nudge
[23:31] <asus_ux501> what are these? could you explain / provide link
[23:31] <Jordan_U> asus_ux501: Yes, but probably not for the reason you expect :)
[23:31] <daftykins> !nomodeset | asus_ux501
[23:32] <Bashing-om> kvj: We relaize that you are concerned, worried and aggravated -> not thinking too clearly ; bekks has been doing this a long time and has loads of experience. Settle down and follow his instruction .
[23:32] <daftykins> asus_ux501: so what is the current BIOS? asus US tells me the zenbook pro UX501 is now on v211
[23:32] <rob__> +kvj you got a live dsito running yet
[23:32] <g201k2> hi i have multiple ethernet cards. how could I determine which ethernet port corresponds to eth0?
[23:32] <asus_ux501> BIOS version is 204
[23:33] <asus_ux501> I'll go and update BIOS and retry. I'll look into nomodeset as well
[23:33] <bekks> g201k2: plug in a cable, see dmesg output.
[23:33] <daftykins> asus_ux501: bear in mind i'll only accept attempts with 15.10 64-bit media on the flash drive right now
[23:34] <daftykins> no other distros will be entertained
[23:34] <Jordan_U> asus_ux501: The error you're getting about not being able to find the live media generally means that, for whatever reason, the initramfs doesn't contain the modules needed to access your USB drive. If you boot from the Ubuntu minimal/netboot installer (note you don't actually actually need to netboot) then the installer doesn't need to access the USB drive, all needed files are stored in the initramfs or
[23:34] <Jordan_U>  downloaded from the internet.
[23:34] <asus_ux501> daftykins you got it.
[23:34] <daftykins> Jordan_U: won't that fail pretty quick anyway due to mini not supported EFI install?
[23:35] <daftykins> *supporting, ugh
[23:35] <daftykins> like, i don't think setting up PXE boot is a worthy use of time
[23:35] <Jordan_U> daftykins: I wasn't aware that the minimal installer didn't support UEFI. Is it debian-installer that doesn't support UEFI or the boot media not having a UEFI bootloader?
[23:36] <daftykins> Jordan_U: no idea on the details i'm afraid, only know that much
[23:36] <daftykins> i think server may be viable, then just installing a DE metapackage
[23:37] <daftykins> having looked up the rest of the specs of this asus though, there are plenty more pitfalls that might make Linux impossible on this machine right now
[23:37] <daftykins> for those playing along at home - https://www.asus.com/us/Notebooks/ZenBook_Pro_UX501/specifications/
[23:37] <anonymo> sexo
[23:38] <rob__> +daftyins UX501 with Linux support thunderbolt?
[23:39] <daftykins> rob__: no need for a + prior to nicks - also i don't understand the question
[23:39] <rob__> daftykins I mean dose ubuntu 15 support thunderbolt ports ?
[23:40] <daftykins> rob__: no idea, try #linux as it'd be the kernel level not distro level really to find out on that one
[23:40] <g201k2> bekks, thanks much . dmesg | grep -i eth seemed to do the trick
[23:40] <bekks> g201k2: you're welcome :)
[23:41] <cookta2012> what was the latest kernel release for wiley werewolf? i think it borked my sftp
[23:41] <bekks> !wiley
[23:41] <bekks> :)
[23:41] <daftykins> !info linux-generic
[23:41] <daftykins> 4.2.0-23 by the looks, cookta2012
[23:42] <cookta2012> thanks
[23:42] <cookta2012> my ssh is working, my sftp is not, and i see nothing in the auth logs to tell me why, when my sftp client says "Authtenticating with public key from agent" it just hangs. Ideas?
[23:43] <daftykins> what is this wily install running on?
[23:43] <Bashing-om> asus_ux501: A thoight. is this a "nvme" issue where these latest drivers must be obtained ? (SSDs)
[23:43] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i totally expect it to become that eventually :)
[23:44] <cookta2012> daftykins, vmware
[23:44] <daftykins> server or desktop VM?
[23:44] <cookta2012> daftykins, server
[23:44] <daftykins> non-LTS server, interesting choice
[23:45] <Bashing-om> daftykins: Presently, a heads up for the possibility .
[23:45] <asus_ux501> Bashing-om I know graphical drive would be nouveau, but I have no idea about SSD
[23:45] <daftykins> cookta2012: confirm by booting the older to see if your hunch is correct, but i'd think that unrelated
[23:45] <cookta2012> daftykins, when the person that installed it they installed a non-lts version
[23:45] <cookta2012> ok
[23:45] <daftykins> asus_ux501: nouveau most likely won't like that machine so you must boot with 'nomodeset' i think
[23:45] <cookta2012> one min
[23:45] <asus_ux501> daftykins the latest BIOS according to Asus.com is 204 which is currently on the laptop. https://www.asus.com/us/support/Download/3/770/0/2/cp7UN9BtMU7UNPWc/45/
[23:46]  * cookta2012 loads vmware vsphere
[23:46] <daftykins> asus_ux501: ah ok, did i have the slightly wrong model o0
[23:46] <codelion> Hello, I just bought a new SSD, booted to a USB drive, copied all the files off my old ubuntu install onto the new ssd, chroot'd to it, and did update-grub on it, but it won't boot
[23:46] <asus_ux501> I'm downloading the 15.10 you suggested, and would do nomodeset immediately
[23:46] <codelion> Any ideas what I could do to fix it?
[23:46] <cookta2012> daftykins, what do you think it could be?
[23:47] <daftykins> codelion: when you say copy files, what did you really do? the new SSD already had an install and you just copied /home ?
[23:47] <Jordan_U> codelion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[23:47] <codelion> daftykins: I created an ext4 partition and copied over everything from / down
[23:48] <asus_ux501> I was very excited about the laptop until it didn't boot any linux. I only use Linux. So, if I can't install ubuntu on it, I have to return the laptop and pay hunderds of $ in restocking.
[23:48] <Jordan_U> codelion: You'll also need to, at least, update your /etc/fstab.
[23:48] <Bashing-om> asus_ux501: To check for this possibility, what returns ' ls -al /dev/nvme* ; modinfo | grep nvme ' ?
[23:48] <codelion> oh of course :/
[23:49] <codelion> the SSD is 30gb smaller, otherwise I think clonezilla would be sufficient
[23:51] <daftykins> you could've resized, cloned, grown :)
[23:52] <daftykins> cookta2012: sorry, no idea on SFTP key auth
[23:52] <asus_ux501> Bashing-om I have not been able to boot into a linux on asus_ux501 yet.
[23:52] <Bashing-om> asus_ux501: Several postings in respect to getting ubuntu installed on the latest Asus machine . http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2307273&page=2&highlight=asus .
[23:54] <codelion> It constantly amazes me how manufacturers manage to break things for linux users
[23:54] <codelion> I had to write a custom-ish driver at one point for my samsung chronos
[23:55] <daftykins> yep, though i've mostly seen it on gaming spec laptops which are systems worthy of a good laugh to begin with
[23:55] <daftykins> if you have the money to buy a gaming spec laptop, you want it to run well... so i don't see why most try to install Linux where less games work out of the box immediately (yes i know, it's improving)
[23:56] <codelion> yeah, but I wouldn't be gaming on my laptop
[23:56] <cyclick> How can I edit the action performed when I left-click on the Trash can in the task bar?
[23:56] <codelion> historically, I've been influenced by the better screen + ram specs
[23:57] <codelion> is there a way to automate the fstab update
[23:57] <codelion> or automate in general all the things I'd need to fix
[23:57] <six86> Hello. Is there some with a HP Microserver gen8 around?
[23:57] <daftykins> six86: direct support questions are better than "does anyone use..."
[23:58] <six86> Hello. Is there some with a HP Microserver gen8 around and can give me the lsusb output of the sd card reader?