[03:17] <Bert_2> To get a version of a (small and hardly used) lib bumped for 16.04, is the best path to get it bumped in Debian or in Ubuntu Universe?
[03:23] <tsimonq2> !language
[03:23] <ubottu> The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[03:23] <tsimonq2> whoops reading backlog by accident, sorry :)
[03:27] <Bert_2> tsimonq2: wait, was that aimed at me? :S
[03:49] <daftykins> Bert_2: tsimonq2 was scrolled up so responding to stale messages i think
[03:49] <daftykins> easy mistake
[04:15] <Bert_2> daftykins: I hope so :P
[04:15] <Bert_2> cause I don't want to be impolite
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[05:48] <tsimonq2> Bert_2: yeah sorry was looking at scrollback, no worries :)
[05:52] <mattaustin> Hi. Anyone else using 'devel' xenial ubuntu-gnome+ppas? I am on two machines (laptop+desktop), and for the last month I can't logon to either (am just returned to the login gdm screen). I have to downgrade to libmutter0g (which also downgrades gnome-shell and some other packages with it) to get a 'working' desktop again - although the gtk theme seems messed up.
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> mattaustin: maybe file a bug for this?
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> !bug | mattaustin
[06:00] <ubottu> mattaustin: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[06:10] <mattaustin> lotuspsychje: Yep, will do then - at first I just thought it was conflicting packages, and would go away once my mirror had caught up. No idea what package is actually causing the problem though. Other than "can't log in", I can find no meaningful errors is logs
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> mattaustin: better bug this, so we have a nice clean xenial in april :p
[06:16] <damascene> Possible bug: I've chose my keyboard language as Turkish during install, when I log to add language support it shows some Turkish packages for software like libreoffice and firefox. but I can not see Turkish language selected in Install/Remove languages
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> damascene: also file a bug for that
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> the more issues the devs can solve, the better
[06:26] <damascene> Second issue: Language Support also suggest installing Non Us or UK spelling checker like Australian English spell checker and South African spell checker. why?
[06:27] <damascene> any reason that I always should have those?
[06:28] <damascene> I'll file a bug for that one.
[06:43] <damascene> lotuspsychje, what is the name of the package, please?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> damascene: not sure, try search with apt-cache search
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> damascene: turkish must be something with -tr
[06:44] <damascene> lotuspsychje, I think it's language-selector-something
[10:02] <lordievader> Good morning.
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[14:26] <penguin42> well that was the funkiest X crash I'd seen for a long time
[14:28] <damascene> $ dpkg --verify gnome-language-selector dpkg: package 'gnome-language-selector' is not installed tester@tester-VirtualBox:~$ apt-cache policy gnome-language-selector  N: Unable to locate package gnome-language-selector tester@tester-VirtualBox:~$ gnome-language-selector --help
[14:29] <damascene> but when I run the command it works!
[14:43] <penguin42> damascene: It's probably part of a different package
[14:43] <penguin42> damascene: if you do something like dpkg -S $(which gnome-language-selector)    it should tell you which package it's in
[14:56] <damascene> penguin42, thank you I found it by using the command you provided: language-selector-gnome: /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector
[14:57] <penguin42> right
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[21:28] <[acosonic]> So, on Ubuntu 14.04, Redmine gets installed as root. It's not a good practice, any ideas in 16, will that still be the case?
[21:29] <lotuspsychje> !info redmine
[21:30] <ubottu> redmine (source: redmine): flexible project management web application. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0~20140825-8 (xenial), package size 4475 kB, installed size 13509 kB
[21:30] <[acosonic]> lotuspsychje, hm, I see, but that answers only part of my question, I'm writing a book on Redmine for Packt Publishing, it's about to get out next month
[21:31] <lotuspsychje> oh i see
[21:31] <lotuspsychje> [acosonic]: maybe test xenial aplha 1 and test demine on it?
[21:32] <lotuspsychje> redmine
[21:32] <[acosonic]> lotuspsychje, Hm, good idea, but who to contact if it's not OK? I suggest it should be user redmine created inside the system...
[21:33] <lotuspsychje> !bug | [acosonic]
[21:33] <ubottu> [acosonic]: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[21:34] <lordievader> [acosonic]: You like to run redmine under its own user? I suppose the setup script sets it up as root (must say I have no experience with installing redmine, only using it).
[21:36] <[acosonic]> lordievader, yeah, that's how it is in ubuntu 14... Ok, thanks, I'll spin-off some virtual machine with newest server candidate, and submit bug if it's still installed as root.
[21:37] <lordievader> [acosonic]: Please do read the pre/post-install scripts first ;) There might be some comments about it.
[21:37] <[acosonic]> lordievader, btw, if you are interested it's on New Year sale still, only 5$ https://www.packtpub.com/big-data-and-business-intelligence/redmine-cookbook
[21:38] <lordievader> We have a nice install running ;)
[21:38] <lordievader> Quite modified too.
[21:40] <[acosonic]> lordievader, Oh? How-so? One of book is dedicated to modifications and different use-cases.  I have a janitor company using it, and they LOVE it, especially re-occuring tasks plugin, it tells them to go isnpect someones elevator... Sends them emails & stuff... Like Jarvis from iron man :D
[21:41] <lordievader> No idea, someone else set it up. I know it does some syncing with ldap, and it has intergration with IRC through irker.
[21:45] <[acosonic]> lordievader, coolio, yeah, there are several irc related plugins