[01:11] <craysiii> i found what i think to be a bug
[01:12] <craysiii> when I change workspaces with two monitors stacked on top of each other (both physically and in config), while the bottom monitor is the primary monitor, the windows in that workspace can be seen flying through the top monitor
[01:16] <darkxst> craysiii, that does sound strange, file a bug and attach a screencast of it if possible!
[01:17] <craysiii> okay i will record a video :)
[01:55] <craysiii> sigh im trying to upload this video to youtube but the /upload page wont even load
[01:58] <craysiii> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp3h5oB_QAY&feature=youtu.be
[01:58] <craysiii> i dont know where to file bug report though :)
[04:18] <darkxst> craysiii, run `ubuntu-bug gnome-shell`
[04:19] <darkxst> craysiii, if you have a webm file you can just attach it to the bug
[04:30] <craysiii> hm
[04:30] <craysiii> trying to think of how to describe this one
[04:31] <craysiii> what is that setting called, where you only allow workspaces on the primary monitor
[04:35] <craysiii> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1532511 hope i did it right
[04:35] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1532511 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Applications in workspace on primary monitor travel through secondary monitors when "Workspaces only on primary display" is set to true." [Undecided,New]
[04:43] <darkxst> craysiii, are you able to test if it also happens on xenial (16.04) live session?
[04:44] <darkxst> if it does, would be good to also file upstream at bugzilla.gnome.org, and link upstream bug to the ubuntu one
[04:45] <craysiii> can you link me to it? im willing to test
[04:45] <darkxst> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/daily-live/
[04:45] <craysiii> cool, should be able to test in a few hours, my internet is potato.
[04:46] <darkxst> ok, just comment on the bug when you have, and I will see it in my emails
[04:50] <craysiii> do you think it will matter if its running as a liveCD or installed on my system? my primary concern is drivers for my GPU
[04:51] <darkxst> what GPU? if you have a spare USB make a persistent USB drive
[04:51] <darkxst> you don't need to install it, but if you use a DVD you will have trouble installing proprietry drivers!
[04:52] <craysiii> yeah I will be using a liveUSB , no dvd drive :PO
[04:53] <darkxst> you might need 2 usb sticks to make a persistent one then ;)
[04:54] <darkxst> (or you could install it onto the USB in a VM)
[04:54] <craysiii> i dont think the VM can access two screens though can it?
[04:58] <craysiii> i guess i can in vbox, ill try that
[04:59] <darkxst> no  I meant use a VM to make the persistent USB device, I don't remember if you can make it directly though
[05:01] <craysiii> ohh
[05:16] <darkxst> hi rtcoder
[05:17] <darkxst> you still working on google code in?
[05:18] <rtcoder> darkxst: Yeah I am trying to get tasks done for Apertium
[05:18] <darkxst> cool, good to hear
[05:24] <craysiii> when ubuntu releases finally pass z, will they go back to a?
[05:24] <darkxst> craysiii, yes I believe that is the plan
[05:25] <darkxst> there was never an a or c anyway
[05:26] <darkxst> they started a B and skipped C for some reason
[05:26] <craysiii> yeah i realized my statement could be confusing, i didn't mean it like *that* lol
[05:27] <darkxst> well the first 2 were just random letters, WW and then HH
[05:27] <rtcoder> darkxst: Unfortunately I was unable to find Ubuntu tasks I could work on
[05:28] <darkxst> rtcoder, there is not so much python tasks in ubuntu
[05:28] <rtcoder> I  tried another organization but mentors weren't quite the friendliest with answering many questions so I quit from that
[05:29] <rtcoder> darkxst: Yeah unfortunately. I will try my  best to learning C so I can do bugfixes
[05:29] <darkxst> rtcoder, but you found one in the end!
[05:29] <rtcoder> darkxst: Found what?
[05:30] <darkxst> an organisation with tasks you can do?
[05:30] <darkxst> or didnt you?
[07:44] <darkxst> hey ricotz, i Uploaded this to staging https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-gnome/ubuntu/gnome-session.git/commit/?id=3881b9c15a266efcc398093ea55361a84c121ad7
[07:51] <darkxst> the upstream default is particularly confusing since both entries will just   boot Xorg until you install gnome-session-wayland (not seeded by default)
[07:51] <craysiii> another thing i noticed is windows will tend to open on my top monitor even if the window that spawned them was in the primary monitor (bottom)
[07:51] <darkxst> craysiii, window placement is random at the best of times
[07:52] <craysiii> interesting
[07:52] <craysiii> just annoying having to drag down all the time
[07:52] <craysiii> even my games have started spawning on the top monitor
[07:52] <darkxst> sometimes its managed by the app (mostly in the same monitor as last launched), sometimes its managed by the window manager (mostly they go to the same monitor as cursor) and it probably goes on
[07:53] <craysiii> makes sense
[07:53] <darkxst> full screen games seem to favour the 1st physical monitor form what I have seen
[07:53] <craysiii> hm i should switch the inputs
[07:54] <darkxst> that would help if it is only games that really bother you probably
[07:54] <craysiii> also the login screen at boot goes to my top monitor, and before it went to my secondary monitor to the side, never my primary
[07:55] <craysiii> so now i have to login upside down because the screen is upside down
[07:55] <darkxst> there is no monitor config for gdm anymore
[07:55] <craysiii> so once again its probably grabbing the first input huh
[07:55] <darkxst> I think I wrote patches at one point to fix that, no idea where they ended up
[07:55] <darkxst> likely
[07:56] <darkxst> I have to login blind when my hdmi monitor is connected but off
[07:57] <craysiii> lol
[07:58] <craysiii> i think those are all my issues
[07:58] <craysiii> lol
[07:59] <craysiii> otherwise, <3 ubuntu gnome
[08:01] <darkxst> craysiii, feel free to fix it!
[08:01] <craysiii> im so dumb tho
[08:01] <craysiii> lol
[08:06] <darkxst> craysiii, go to school or something then :P
[08:06] <craysiii> haha
[08:07] <craysiii> no i like C#, ruby, python
[08:07] <craysiii> useless languages in this domain
[08:07] <darkxst> learn C ;)
[08:07] <craysiii> im trying to get employable in those techs so i dont want to divert my attention, as selfish as that is
[08:07] <craysiii> lol
[08:07] <craysiii> i used to know C++ pretty well, but that was years ago
[08:07] <craysiii> C is a different beast though
[08:08] <darkxst> not so much when you learnt it first!
[08:08] <craysiii> i actually started with java
[08:08] <craysiii> hate it so much
[08:08] <craysiii> scala is pretty cool but i feel it has a very limited usecase
[08:10] <darkxst> craysiii, python is a fucking nightware when linking back to c/C++ code
[08:11] <craysiii> yeah i usually wrote python with django
[08:12] <craysiii> dont use it anymore, moved on to ruby on rails
[08:14] <darkxst> I do simulations, the python is cool, you can simulate crazy shit in 20 loc, but anytime something breaks in the underlying libraries you have to go back and rewrite is all in c++ so you can even debug
[08:15] <craysiii> sounds really interesting
[08:15] <craysiii> what do you simulate usually
[08:17] <darkxst> craysiii, photonics
[08:18] <craysiii> o.O
[08:18] <darkxst> the underlying code with FEM and sparse matrices etc is not possible in python
[08:19] <craysiii> why dont you use C/++ for the whole thing?
[08:20] <darkxst> because doing the high level stuff is so much quicker in python
[08:21] <darkxst> when it works, its great, but when it crash, meh
[13:40] <lindol> hi all
[15:05] <Pozzo> hi
[15:06] <Pozzo> I have some trouble with ubuntu-gnome ...
[15:07] <Pozzo> I don't know exactly why... but after some hours of usage... gnome-shell consumes a lot of RAM
[15:07] <Pozzo> and when I say a lot... I mean more that 30 Gb !
[15:07] <Pozzo> then the swap runs... and the entire machine is so slow that I have to reboot...
[15:07] <Pozzo> i've not installed any extension
[15:07] <Pozzo> it's a fresh install from ubuntu-gnome 15.10
[15:07] <Pozzo> i've only changed the background of my desktop and the background of gdm
[15:07] <Pozzo> and... I need to use nvidia driver instead of the nouveau drivers
[15:08] <Pozzo>  (with the nouveau driver, my GE-770 GTX connected with DisplayPort to my screen displays a blank screen... it seems that nouveau doesn't like the native resolution of my screen)
[15:08] <Pozzo> any idea to solve this RAM issue ?
[19:51] <craysiii> good day
[19:52] <craysiii> i remembered another issue lol but i don't know if its with the OS or my monitor
[19:53] <craysiii> when my monitors get blanked, the primary monitor, once it goes blank, the backlight or something turns on so it displays just a black screen
[21:57] <craysiii> I tested the workspace issue in a VM first, doesn't seem to be affected, i will test on actual hardware tonight