| Xretsim | hello | 00:37 |
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| Xretsim | somebody has also problems after updating with connecting to jabber/xmpp (with ssl/don't know without because on my servers I require ssl enabled) | 00:38 |
| Xretsim | it's with kopete like with the new internal Instant-Messaging | 00:39 |
| Xretsim | in the arch forum I read that is have something to do with a openssl patch :/ | 00:40 |
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| ussher_ | I've lost the global keyboard shortcut location. I want the one that "switch to desktop to the left" (and right). I'm pretty sure its somewhere in "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" but cant seam to locate it in 14.04 | 02:38 |
| valorie | ussher_: I use krunner to find things like that | 02:45 |
| valorie | alt+f4 usually, then just type switch desktop or so | 02:46 |
| ussher_ | havent used krunner before, Ill look. thanks | 02:46 |
| valorie | oh, you are in for some kde-pleasure then | 02:47 |
| ussher_ | ah, yes i have, but didnt know what it was called. | 02:47 |
| ussher_ | i usually use terminal | 02:47 |
| valorie | so useful for so many things | 02:47 |
| valorie | sure, but krunner is right there | 02:47 |
| valorie | although I use yakuake so the terminal is right there as well | 02:48 |
| ussher_ | that brings up lots of changelog.txt files for me. I want to set my page left / page right keys to switch desktops, but its something you do once, then it always works, so I've forgotten where to set it. setting up my laptop. | 02:48 |
| ussher_ | think i've found it though under Workspace behaviour -> 'Virtual Desktops' | 02:50 |
| ussher_ | yup | 02:50 |
| ussher_ | thanks valorie, I'll be good til the next time I setup a laptop. :) | 02:50 |
| valorie | cool | 02:50 |
| valorie | nice to talk with you | 02:50 |
| ussher_ | you too, you're always helpful. | 02:51 |
| valorie | thanks! | 02:51 |
| ussher_ | :) | 02:51 |
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| Guest98965 | Does anyone know where to find kubuntu 15.10 system requirements? | 05:37 |
| Guest98965 | how much ram required? | 05:39 |
| valorie | hmmm | 05:39 |
| valorie | !requirements | 05:39 |
| ubottu | Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu | 05:39 |
| valorie | we should be about the same as Unity | 05:40 |
| Guest98965 | thank you valorie | 05:40 |
| valorie | yw | 05:43 |
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| Alok_ | Hi All | 06:19 |
| Alok_ | I am new to Kubuntu.....few days back I installed it and found several bug inside that | 06:19 |
| Alok_ | But the UI was awesome... | 06:20 |
| Alok_ | not sure of 15.4 | 06:20 |
| yeuoa | I am having a difficult time figuring out how to format my usb drive | 06:21 |
| yeuoa | dolphin doesn't give an option.. | 06:21 |
| yeuoa | i havent found any information from google that has helped at all | 06:23 |
| Chronotoss | Have you tried a pratition program like gparted? or just looked up the fdisk command? I think it's the fdisk command ... I have to look it up everytime I do it aswell. | 06:23 |
| valorie | !partition | 06:23 |
| ubottu | For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap | 06:23 |
| yeuoa | yes i did try gparted.. | 06:23 |
| Chronotoss | thank you Valorie! | 06:24 |
| valorie | Chronotoss: ubottu has all kinds of useful stuff | 06:24 |
| yeuoa | after using gparted ive tried to use unetbootin t | 06:24 |
| valorie | :-) | 06:24 |
| yeuoa | and it tells me i must first mount the usb drive to the mountpoint | 06:24 |
| valorie | yeuoa: dd always works.... | 06:24 |
| valorie | !fstab | 06:24 |
| ubottu | The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | 06:24 |
| valorie | hmmm | 06:25 |
| valorie | !partitions | 06:25 |
| ubottu | For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap | 06:25 |
| valorie | ok, both work | 06:25 |
| yeuoa | hrm | 06:25 |
| yeuoa | i installed kubuntu... | 06:25 |
| yeuoa | from a usb drive. | 06:25 |
| valorie | ok | 06:25 |
| yeuoa | i am needing to format this usb drive, so i can put xubuntu on it | 06:25 |
| valorie | that's how most of us do it | 06:25 |
| yeuoa | kubuntu is running really slow | 06:26 |
| valorie | ok | 06:26 |
| valorie | !dd | 06:26 |
| yeuoa | i cant get kubuntu off the damn usb stick | 06:26 |
| yeuoa | because the geniuses that made this didnt add a format option | 06:26 |
| valorie | when you try to put xubuntu on it, it will remove kubuntu | 06:26 |
| yeuoa | it will not let me....it tells me i have to first mount it to a mountpoint | 06:26 |
| yeuoa | and that is using unetbootin | 06:27 |
| valorie | so use dd | 06:27 |
| yeuoa | wtf is dd? | 06:27 |
| valorie | or kde-partition-manager | 06:27 |
| Chronotoss | Run the following command, replacing /dev/sdx with your drive, e.g. /dev/sdb. (do not append a partition number, so do not use something like /dev/sdb1) | 06:27 |
| Chronotoss | dd bs=4M if=/path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync | 06:27 |
| Chronotoss | from my notes on dd | 06:27 |
| Chronotoss | off the wiki for arch | 06:27 |
| yeuoa | is there a terminal command to format ? | 06:28 |
| yeuoa | surely there is | 06:28 |
| valorie | http://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal | 06:28 |
| valorie | yeuoa: dd is the one | 06:28 |
| yeuoa | what does dd stand for? | 06:28 |
| Chronotoss | disk destroyer | 06:30 |
| yeuoa | ok | 06:30 |
| Chronotoss | But really you just point the code correctly and wait and it works. | 06:30 |
| valorie | http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/dd-invocation.html#dd-invocation | 06:30 |
| valorie | or man dd from the commandline | 06:31 |
| valorie | *wait* being the important part | 06:31 |
| valorie | it's not fast | 06:31 |
| valorie | just good | 06:31 |
| yeuoa | i can't get kubuntu to mount my usb drive.. | 06:31 |
| valorie | good enough to wreck your HD if you do the command wrong | 06:31 |
| yeuoa | so its hard getting anything to work at this point | 06:31 |
| Chronotoss | True that. | 06:31 |
| yeuoa | i even restarted the computer before i came in here..its not working | 06:32 |
| valorie | yeuoa: the device manager doesn't see it? | 06:32 |
| yeuoa | no | 06:32 |
| valorie | and yet you installed from it | 06:32 |
| Chronotoss | you should be able to see your drive with lsblk command | 06:32 |
| yeuoa | valorie, it was working fine until i used gparted a few ago | 06:32 |
| valorie | ah | 06:33 |
| valorie | then unfortunately it might be wrecked | 06:33 |
| valorie | they seem to die rather easily | 06:33 |
| yeuoa | Chronotoss, yes lsblk finds the drive | 06:33 |
| Chronotoss | okay so it's not mounted, gparted will unmount a disk before use. | 06:34 |
| valorie | cool | 06:34 |
| Chronotoss | you can still dd to install then whoo! | 06:34 |
| yeuoa | im getting nowhere here | 06:36 |
| valorie | don't let me scare you out of using dd | 06:37 |
| yeuoa | dd: failed to open ‘/path/to/archlinux.iso’: No such file or directory | 06:37 |
| valorie | do you have the iso of xubuntu downloaded and verified? | 06:37 |
| valorie | ! | 06:37 |
| yeuoa | yes | 06:37 |
| valorie | you put that path to *that* there | 06:38 |
| yeuoa | i see. | 06:38 |
| yeuoa | i am a newb bear with me | 06:38 |
| valorie | like ~/Downloads/xubuntu.iso <--- only use the real path, and real name | 06:38 |
| yeuoa | got it | 06:38 |
| valorie | and it must be exact | 06:39 |
| Chronotoss | if you want to know the path to the file, right click it and go to properties, then that's your path, then add the filename at the end. | 06:39 |
| yeuoa | ok maybe its working now | 06:40 |
| yeuoa | the drive is flashing...but i dont see any progress bars or anything heh | 06:40 |
| Chronotoss | Youwont | 06:40 |
| yeuoa | ok | 06:40 |
| yeuoa | and you say this takes a long time? | 06:41 |
| Chronotoss | depends on the file and speed of the bus your working with. for me it was two minutes for a ~500 meg | 06:41 |
| yeuoa | ok | 06:41 |
| yeuoa | xubuntu was 1g | 06:41 |
| yeuoa | and this is creating a bootable iso image on the usb | 06:42 |
| yeuoa | ? | 06:42 |
| valorie | most of the isos are a gig, yeah | 06:42 |
| valorie | yes | 06:42 |
| yeuoa | ok | 06:42 |
| valorie | yeuoa: you realize you can just install xubuntu-desktop and run that, right? | 06:43 |
| valorie | you do not have to do another install | 06:43 |
| valorie | you can, but do not have to | 06:43 |
| yeuoa | no i did not know that | 06:43 |
| valorie | that is one of the strengths of the ubuntu base | 06:43 |
| valorie | you can run unity, gnome, kde, lxde, xfce just by installing them | 06:44 |
| yeuoa | i had no clue | 06:44 |
| yeuoa | but kubuntu seems sluggish and i was wanting to try xubuntu | 06:44 |
| valorie | oh, and mate | 06:44 |
| valorie | !releases | 06:45 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 06:45 |
| valorie | oh, that doesn't have the flavors, sorry | 06:45 |
| yeuoa | how do i just install xubuntu from here? | 06:45 |
| valorie | in the commandline: sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop | 06:46 |
| yeuoa | thats awesome | 06:47 |
| yeuoa | thank you | 06:47 |
| valorie | indeed! | 06:47 |
| valorie | all the flavor people are cool | 06:47 |
| valorie | not that unity people aren't | 06:47 |
| yeuoa | and to try the others..i would use sudo apt install gnome-desktop? | 06:47 |
| valorie | but I know more of the flavor teams | 06:48 |
| valorie | mmmm | 06:48 |
| valorie | !gnome | 06:48 |
| ubottu | GNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome | 06:48 |
| valorie | !ubuntu-gnome | 06:48 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage | 06:48 |
| yeuoa | im not sure how one remembers all these commands lol | 06:48 |
| Chronotoss | Use them, over and over and over | 06:48 |
| Chronotoss | and write them XD | 06:48 |
| valorie | oh, I just guess what ubottu knows | 06:48 |
| valorie | when I get it wrong, it says it doesn't know, in private | 06:49 |
| valorie | lol | 06:49 |
| Chronotoss | gotta love bots | 06:49 |
| valorie | pfff, I don't know if it's still gnome-desktop or gnome-shell or what in the command | 06:50 |
| valorie | but at worst you just get an error message | 06:50 |
| rww | ubuntu-gnome-desktop for the Ubuntu GNOME stuff. gnome-shell for upstream | 06:51 |
| valorie | I like the gnome people, but not the desktop | 06:51 |
| valorie | thanks, rww | 06:51 |
| rww | (comparable to kubuntu-desktop vs. whatever y'all use instead of kde-standard) | 06:51 |
| rww | plasma-desktop i think | 06:52 |
| valorie | yup | 06:52 |
| Chronotoss | I never saw a need to install multiple desktop types. Is there a use? | 06:53 |
| valorie | testing, I guess? | 06:53 |
| valorie | I've only done it once, and it was for that reason | 06:54 |
| Chronotoss | I've installed a new desktop, but that was getting rid of gnome for K | 06:55 |
| valorie | well, I did that a couple of times too | 06:56 |
| Chronotoss | right now I"m trying to figure out why my ~/.cache/dconf folder has a root owner. | 06:57 |
| valorie | chroot it | 06:57 |
| valorie | you probably ran something as sudo when you shouldn't have | 06:57 |
| valorie | or used sudo instead of kdesudo | 06:58 |
| Chronotoss | I did that... I also tried to nuke it in tty and reboot and it came back that way again. | 06:58 |
| valorie | well, you can log out, then move or delete it | 06:58 |
| valorie | but if you haven't logged out, it is *instantly* recreated | 06:58 |
| Chronotoss | I was logged out and nuked it under another user. | 06:59 |
| valorie | hmmm | 06:59 |
| valorie | well, try chown -R username folder/ | 07:00 |
| Chronotoss | Did that. | 07:00 |
| valorie | you can do it on your whole ~/home | 07:00 |
| valorie | although it will take longer | 07:00 |
| Chronotoss | My home is small thank god. | 07:00 |
| Chronotoss | it's not affecting anything right now, at least from what I can tell, but I've been told there should be no root owner in my home. So I've been looking it over. deleting it, looking things up and trying it. | 07:02 |
| valorie | right, that's part of the definition of $HOME | 07:02 |
| valorie | vs / (root) | 07:02 |
| Chronotoss | Right. | 07:02 |
| yeuoa | valorie, ok its done, now what | 07:06 |
| valorie | yeuoa: what's done? | 07:06 |
| yeuoa | the xubuntu desktop install | 07:06 |
| valorie | logout, and grub should let you choose | 07:07 |
| yeuoa | ok ill try thanks | 07:07 |
| valorie | oops, I was going to say, you may need to update grub | 07:07 |
| Chronotoss | I was about to say, at this point you should only get to it at log-in right? | 07:08 |
| valorie | yeah | 07:08 |
| yejaf | valorie, i didnt get a choice...it just booted into this | 07:12 |
| yejaf | valorie, has a pic of a mouse on the desktop lol | 07:12 |
| valorie | then you have xubuntu | 07:12 |
| yejaf | hmm ok and kubuntu is gone theni guess | 07:12 |
| valorie | you might need to update grub if you want to switch back and forth | 07:13 |
| valorie | nope, not gone | 07:13 |
| valorie | !grub | 07:13 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 07:13 |
| valorie | just run `update-grub` | 07:14 |
| valorie | in the commandline | 07:14 |
| Chronotoss | I want to optimize the video a little bit more, makes my crappy laptop nvidia cry. any Thoughts? | 07:15 |
| valorie | !nvidia | 07:16 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 07:16 |
| mJImmer | any one know how to start orca in sddm ? I am writing a theme and all I can think is to use qprocess | 07:16 |
| mJImmer | gsettings is not working | 07:16 |
| mJImmer | like use qprocess -> then use gesttings would be super annoying for it to start out the bat | 07:17 |
| Chronotoss | Humm interesting reading. I don't know if it will help but i'll have to read all the material first to be sure. | 07:20 |
| mJImmer | Yeah it is like because there is no user that I can not use it. But I can 100% access all the Gsettings with a custom class so not sure *Oo | 07:22 |
| Chronotoss | Ohh I'm sorry mJImmer, I was responding to valorie. I've never written a theme before so I cannot help too much. | 07:23 |
| valorie | mJImmer: probably best to ask in #kde-devel, or perhaps better in #kde-accessibility | 07:24 |
| mJImmer | that is fine I will figure it out. | 07:24 |
| mJImmer | crazy thing is I have to keep on droping to shell to test lol brb | 07:25 |
| valorie | well, I've used orca before to test, so it works in kubuntu | 07:26 |
| Chronotoss | I guess themes are difficult to make? I've been pondering as well a way to control each applications volume, I know you should be able to. have yet to figure out how. | 07:26 |
| valorie | Chronotoss: can look at other themes and see how they do it | 07:34 |
| Chronotoss | I could, then I would have to take my time away from my other tinkerings and start a new tinkering. I have alot on my plate right now as I'm leaning Plasma and Kubuntu, as well as more about Linux. | 07:36 |
| sun-ch | hellO_o | 07:50 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:21 |
| Smurphy | Morning | 09:21 |
| lordievader | Hey Smurphy, how are you doing? | 09:23 |
| Smurphy | lordievader: Sorry. In calls all day ... -> doing work. | 11:39 |
| ejay | Hi all. Is there any way to install i386 dev libs and keep 64bit libs? I want to compile wine so I need couple of 32bit libs but, for example, when trying to install dbus:i386 apt-get want to remove dbus package and I want to avoid that. Any ideas? | 12:17 |
| soee | ejay: i think better to ask on #ubuntu :) | 12:17 |
| Smurphy | ejay: But it is possible, yes. | 12:18 |
| ejay | Smurphy: how? | 12:18 |
| ejay | Now I'm like - how badly I effed up my OS because I just installed a bunch of i386 libs including xrandr and x11 and such and never took a look if apt-get is removing anything I need. | 12:21 |
| clivejo | ejay: have you tried setting up a i386 chroot environment? | 13:06 |
| ejay | clivejo: I have not. | 13:22 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:46 |
| hazamonzo | BluesKaj: Howdy | 13:46 |
| BluesKaj | hi hazamonzo | 13:47 |
| uebera|| | Hi. Is it just me or is it currently not possible to run "kvm -cdrom xenial-desktop-amd64.iso" on a 15.10 (x64) host without triggering a kernel panic ("VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)")? (It works using VirtualBox, though.) | 13:55 |
| uebera|| | The same goes for kubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso, btw. | 13:56 |
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| kitty | there is no audio in online flash videos. what to do? | 15:08 |
| LLL | Turn up volume. | 15:23 |
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| esperegu | I just upgraded to 15.10 from 14.04 and now when I try to log in kwin crashed continuesly so I don't even get a desktop. Someone knows how to fix that? | 16:21 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu: clean install? | 16:24 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: I am afraid to lose my stuff.... | 16:24 |
| esperegu | (besides having to reconfigure everything) | 16:26 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: its not windows is it? ;-) | 16:26 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, skipping over a release even though it's EOL requires a clean install, unless you have separate / (root) and /home partitions, then you can install to / and all your conf files and data will be saved from the previous install | 16:28 |
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| esperegu | BluesKaj: all on one partition. I did not skip the upgrade. just immediately after reboot upgraded again. | 16:50 |
| esperegu | the first upgrade was stuck initially by the way | 16:50 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, so where are you stuck ? | 16:52 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: now by the crash of kwin. I am now removing all kubuntu desktop related packages and will try to reinstall them | 16:53 |
| esperegu | hope that will let me in again. | 16:53 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, can you get to a vt/tty to update, upgrade and install packages? | 16:56 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: I am logged in via ssh | 16:56 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: just removed a lot of packages. now installing kubuntu-desktop | 16:57 |
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| BluesKaj | also install plasma-desktop | 16:57 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: kubuntu-desktop depends on it.... | 16:58 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, you may be stuck due to 14.10 being EOL with no active repositories, so my advice is to change the /etc/apt/sources.list debs from utopis to vivid, if you think that's the problem | 17:00 |
| BluesKaj | utopia rather | 17:00 |
| esperegu | I thought it had to do with plasma so I moved my .kde folder but that made no difference | 17:01 |
| duilio_brenta | boh... mi sò scassat' u' cazz! | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, sudo sed -i 's/utopia/vivid/' /etc/apt/sources.list' | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | that command will change your sources.list to 15.04 and update and upgrade should work | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | drop the quote mark at the end | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list | 17:07 |
| BluesKaj | oops esperegu don't copy and paste the above | 17:08 |
| BluesKaj | that's an example I keep in my cli commands text file | 17:09 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: but it's already at 15.10 | 17:13 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, your sources.list shows wily ? | 17:21 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: think so. lemme check. its now rebooting | 17:22 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: jep | 17:23 |
| michel_ | hi, i wanna add a Telegram account but when i try it says you need morse for that to work but there is no morse package related! what can i do? :c | 17:24 |
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| BluesKaj | ok , esperegu, still having upgrade freeze | 17:25 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: no. but still crashing on kwin | 17:25 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: think it is an xorg.conf issue | 17:25 |
| BluesKaj | do you have an xorg.conf file? | 17:26 |
| esperegu | yes | 17:26 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: without it it starts the desktop. but of course not with my monitors properly.... | 17:26 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: food first. brb | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | best to delete it and start over with nothing and let the default graphics driver do the work | 17:27 |
| BluesKaj | then find the right driver for your gpu and install it | 17:27 |
| BigFredy | i have a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 LTS with Unity, anything to know before installing KDE ? | 17:44 |
| BluesKaj | BigFredy, install kubuntu-desktop and then you can choose which desktop you want to use at login | 17:45 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: is it possible to disable a driver? | 17:47 |
| BigFredy | BluesKaj : Thanks, i'm on the way. | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, which driver needs disabling? | 17:47 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: well. I see intel and nvidia in xorg | 17:47 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, do you have hybrid gpus / optimus system? | 17:48 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: desktop with 2 Nvidia cards (and build in video) | 17:49 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: I used the 2 nvidia cards with xinerama | 17:49 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu,did you see my suggestion above about deleting your xorg.conf for now and using the default to keep things stable til we get your setup syraightened out? | 17:50 |
| BluesKaj | straightened out even | 17:51 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: yes. I am running without xorg.conf atm | 17:51 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: it logs in now | 17:51 |
| esperegu | (no crashes) | 17:51 |
| BluesKaj | ok , are pci gpus the same chip? | 17:51 |
| esperegu | think so | 17:51 |
| esperegu | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1 | 17:52 |
| esperegu | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1) | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, ok looks good, check in system settings>driver manager for the recommended nvidia driver ..probly the nvidia-340 or 352 | 17:53 |
| esperegu | Xorg.0.log: NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 340.96 Sun Nov 8 21:46:28 PST 2015 | 17:54 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, ok in the terminal, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes | 17:55 |
| esperegu | Kernel driver in use: nvidia | 17:56 |
| esperegu | Kernel driver in use: nvidia | 17:56 |
| BluesKaj | ok , then you're good to go | 17:56 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: what then? | 17:57 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, I'm not very knowledgeable about multiple monitors, unfortunately , but I'm ure someone else here can help with that or you could ask in #ubuntu or #kde | 17:59 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: looks like a bug.. .reading up on it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343844 | 17:59 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 343844 in core "Kwin makes unconditional access to randr extension in (at least) XRandRScreens::update()" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] | 17:59 |
| BluesKaj | I have to go push some snow..we had a storm yesterday...BBL | 18:00 |
| esperegu | so what can I install so I can get the version mentioned in the bug report? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343844#c64 | 18:10 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 343844 in core "Kwin makes unconditional access to randr extension in (at least) XRandRScreens::update()" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] | 18:10 |
| esperegu | anyone? how to get the latest plasma in kubuntu? | 18:43 |
| BluesKaj | esperegu, depends, if you're willing to try unstable ppas on launchpad | 18:46 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: preferably as stable as possible of course. | 18:46 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: there no releases? | 18:46 |
| BluesKaj | the plasma 5.5.3 for wily isn't totally packaged yet, the devs are still working out the kinks | 18:47 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: and 5.5.2 ? | 18:48 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: according to that comment it is fixed in 5.5 | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | 5.4.3 goes to 5.5.3 next afaik | 18:50 |
| BluesKaj | ok , back to the snow...bbl | 18:51 |
| BigFredy | BluesKaj : i am back with KDE desktop but something is wrong with the keyboard | 19:20 |
| estan_ | hi. does Kubuntu provide source DVDs like Debian does? (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/source/iso-dvd/). | 19:20 |
| estan_ | i'm thinking for the convenience of hardware vendors shipping Kubuntu pre-installed, which need to provide the source for all shipped GPL software on durable media, or a written offer to provide it that is valid for 3 years. | 19:22 |
| BluesKaj | BigFredy, make sure you update and upgrade now | 19:23 |
| BigFredy | update & upgrade done | 19:26 |
| BluesKaj | estan_, images are only available for download. The dvd/cd disks are no longer available | 19:27 |
| BluesKaj | BigFredy, ok , install kubuntu-restricted-extras | 19:28 |
| estan_ | BluesKaj: bah. sorry i phrased it wrong, i meant DVD ISOs. | 19:29 |
| estan_ | BluesKaj: and note that i meant source DVD ISOs, not the regular install media, but the sources (like at the debian URL above). | 19:29 |
| BigFredy | BluesKaj : Perfect ! keyboard works fine now | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | estan_, there no disk with isos available whether source or regular install media, whatever you mean by that | 19:33 |
| BigFredy | Other thing, in the taskbar the keyboard icon let me only choose English, no way to change ibus settings | 19:35 |
| estan_ | BluesKaj: sorry, i'm unclear. i'm not asking about physical DVD for purchase, but ISO images, like you can download at http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ . but those are the regular install media. i meant source ISOs, containing the source of all the packages. | 19:38 |
| estan_ | at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/source/iso-dvd/ , Debian offers 11 DVDs containing the source of all the packages in Debian. i was just thinking if Kubuntu has the equivalent somewhere. | 19:38 |
| estan_ | i'm guessing that Debian offers those as a convenience for hardware vendors that wish to ship Debian pre-installed, and immediately satisfy the requirement of GPL to provide the source by including those DVDs, instead of having to make an offer (valid for 3 years) to provide it, which is the other option in the GPL. | 19:40 |
| denza242 | estan_: like a mirror of the sources? | 19:40 |
| estan_ | denza242: well yes, but put into ISO images for convenient burning. | 19:40 |
| denza242 | hmm | 19:40 |
| estan_ | the GPL requires it to be on physical media, if you take the option of providing the source straight away at the time you sell it. | 19:41 |
| estan_ | so i guess that's why Debian has those ISOs. | 19:41 |
| estan_ | (if you take the option of making a 3-year promise to provide the source, you're allowed to do so through a network) | 19:41 |
| denza242 | estan_: https://www.osdisc.com/products/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu-1510-software-repository-64bit.html | 19:41 |
| estan_ | denza242: that does not seem to be the source of the packages, but the packages themselves. | 19:43 |
| estan_ | but i guess there's no equivalent to those Debian ISOs for Kubuntu. | 19:43 |
| denza242 | estan_: it can be used as a repository | 19:43 |
| denza242 | wait | 19:43 |
| estan_ | of course. | 19:44 |
| denza242 | estan_: like, the source code of the packages? | 19:44 |
| estan_ | yes. like the Debian ISOs. | 19:44 |
| denza242 | hmm | 19:44 |
| estan_ | i'm asking about the source code. i'm mainly interested from a hardware vendor point of view. | 19:44 |
| denza242 | estan_: also, there probably won't be a "Kubuntu" one, since Kubuntu pulls all packages from Ubuntu | 19:45 |
| estan_ | i see. there are no Kubuntu specific packages what so ever? | 19:46 |
| BigFredy | I think there an issue with my Ibus preferences | 19:46 |
| denza242 | estan_: there's kubuntu packages, but nothing that can't be downloaded from the main ubuntu repositories | 19:47 |
| BigFredy | when reload, it set my keyboard to qwerty | 19:47 |
| denza242 | i.e. kubuntu-desktop | 19:47 |
| estan_ | because as a hardware vendor, if you ship GPL software preinstalled, you are obliged to offer the source, either on durable media (like DVDs, bluerays) as part of the sale, or as a valid-for-3-year offer to provide it either on durable media or for download. | 19:47 |
| estan_ | denza242: alright. | 19:47 |
| BluesKaj | estan_, if you check the kubuntu sources.list you see the src debs listed there, if that's what you mean | 19:47 |
| denza242 | ^ | 19:47 |
| denza242 | BluesKaj: how does system76 do it? | 19:48 |
| BluesKaj | denza242, I assume they follow the FOSS rules for vendor installation OSs, whatever they might be. | 19:49 |
| denza242 | estan_: I would ask these guys how they handle the issue with source https://system76.com/ | 19:49 |
| estan_ | BluesKaj: yes. sure. i know that i can always gather the sources myself. i was just wondering if there was anything as convenient as what Debian has, pre-made DVD ISOs with all the sources. | 19:49 |
| denza242 | estan_: tried looking and got nothing | 19:49 |
| estan_ | denza242: yea. i would guess that most vendors don't take the first option of the GPL (to ship the code at the time of purchase), but take the offer route instead. | 19:50 |
| estan_ | yea. i think it doesn't exist. thanks for looking. | 19:50 |
| denza242 | estan_: sorry we couldn't find it for you | 19:50 |
| denza242 | good luck | 19:50 |
| estan_ | i'm just thinking. if i was a hardware vendor, i wouldn't count on repositories et.c. being available, since i'll be legally obliged to provide the source for 3 years, i would want to have my own private mirror. | 19:51 |
| denza242 | estan_: if you have the bandwidth, you could host a mirror yourself | 19:51 |
| estan_ | that's why it's more convenient in a way to provide the source up-front at the time you sell the machine. because then you've complied with GPL and don't have to think about it. | 19:51 |
| estan_ | heh yea. | 19:51 |
| estan_ | i think those 11 Debian DVDs ISOs would fit exactly on one dual-layer Bluray disc btw :) | 19:52 |
| estan_ | so if you don't sell many machines (which is my situation), then shipping the source at the time i sell the machine would be more convenient than having to make sure it's available somewhere for 3 years. | 19:53 |
| estan_ | (and it's three years after you provided the object code _or_ after you provided the last spare part for the machine). | 19:53 |
| estan_ | GPL is complicated :) | 19:53 |
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| Bigfredy_ | how to install more inputs methods in Ibus ? | 20:06 |
| BigFredy | ibus input method French added, did'nt saw the arrow at first sight, then it was easy | 20:14 |
| esperegu | BluesKaj: which ppa u advice? | 20:51 |
| Bigfredy | BluesKaj: Thanks for help, everything is fine now. KDE is running | 21:04 |
| ArmOrAttAk | guys i'm using 14.10 and i can't apt-get update. us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com not found. where are the utopic repos? | 21:35 |
| genii | It's End Of Life | 21:40 |
| genii | !14.10 | 21:41 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic | 21:41 |
| ArmOrAttAk | !upgrade | 21:41 |
| ubottu | For upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WilyUpgrades/Kubuntu | 21:41 |
| genii | !eolupgrade | 21:45 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 21:45 |
| genii | There, that one | 21:45 |
| * genii wanders back to work | 21:45 | |
| ArmOrAttAk | thanks genii | 21:45 |
| genii | ubottu: 14.10 is <reply> Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic | 21:48 |
| ubottu | But 14.10 already means something else! | 21:48 |
| genii | ubottu: no 14.10 is <reply> Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic | 21:48 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that genii | 21:48 |
| * genii makes more coffee | 21:48 | |
| anabain | what is the correct way to get rid of baloo in 15.10? | 22:39 |
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