[00:37] hello [00:38] somebody has also problems after updating with connecting to jabber/xmpp (with ssl/don't know without because on my servers I require ssl enabled) [00:39] it's with kopete like with the new internal Instant-Messaging [00:40] in the arch forum I read that is have something to do with a openssl patch :/ === kubuntu is now known as Guest70166 === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk [02:38] I've lost the global keyboard shortcut location. I want the one that "switch to desktop to the left" (and right). I'm pretty sure its somewhere in "Global Keyboard Shortcuts" but cant seam to locate it in 14.04 [02:45] ussher_: I use krunner to find things like that [02:46] alt+f4 usually, then just type switch desktop or so [02:46] havent used krunner before, Ill look. thanks [02:47] oh, you are in for some kde-pleasure then [02:47] ah, yes i have, but didnt know what it was called. [02:47] i usually use terminal [02:47] so useful for so many things [02:47] sure, but krunner is right there [02:48] although I use yakuake so the terminal is right there as well [02:48] that brings up lots of changelog.txt files for me. I want to set my page left / page right keys to switch desktops, but its something you do once, then it always works, so I've forgotten where to set it. setting up my laptop. [02:50] think i've found it though under Workspace behaviour -> 'Virtual Desktops' [02:50] yup [02:50] thanks valorie, I'll be good til the next time I setup a laptop. :) [02:50] cool [02:50] nice to talk with you [02:51] you too, you're always helpful. [02:51] thanks! [02:51] :) === struk|desk is now known as struk|desk|away === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk [05:37] Does anyone know where to find kubuntu 15.10 system requirements? [05:39] how much ram required? [05:39] hmmm [05:39] !requirements [05:39] Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu [05:40] we should be about the same as Unity [05:40] thank you valorie [05:43] yw === saga is now known as saga_ === saga_ is now known as saga__ === saga__ is now known as saga === struk|desk2 is now known as struk|desk|away [06:19] Hi All [06:19] I am new to Kubuntu.....few days back I installed it and found several bug inside that [06:20] But the UI was awesome... [06:20] not sure of 15.4 [06:21] I am having a difficult time figuring out how to format my usb drive [06:21] dolphin doesn't give an option.. [06:23] i havent found any information from google that has helped at all [06:23] Have you tried a pratition program like gparted? or just looked up the fdisk command? I think it's the fdisk command ... I have to look it up everytime I do it aswell. [06:23] !partition [06:23] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PartitioningSchemes l - For partitioning programs see !GParted, or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [06:23] yes i did try gparted.. [06:24] thank you Valorie! [06:24] Chronotoss: ubottu has all kinds of useful stuff [06:24] after using gparted ive tried to use unetbootin t [06:24] :-) [06:24] and it tells me i must first mount the usb drive to the mountpoint [06:24] yeuoa: dd always works.... [06:24] !fstab [06:24] The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [06:25] hmmm [06:25] !partitions [06:25] For help with partitioning a new install see: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/partitioning.html - For partitioning programs see !GParted, !QtParted (!Kubuntu 8.10 and lower) or !PartitionManager (!Kubuntu 9.04 and up) - Other partitioning topics include !fstab !home and !swap [06:25] ok, both work [06:25] hrm [06:25] i installed kubuntu... [06:25] from a usb drive. [06:25] ok [06:25] i am needing to format this usb drive, so i can put xubuntu on it [06:25] that's how most of us do it [06:26] kubuntu is running really slow [06:26] ok [06:26] !dd [06:26] i cant get kubuntu off the damn usb stick [06:26] because the geniuses that made this didnt add a format option [06:26] when you try to put xubuntu on it, it will remove kubuntu [06:26] it will not let me....it tells me i have to first mount it to a mountpoint [06:27] and that is using unetbootin [06:27] so use dd [06:27] wtf is dd? [06:27] or kde-partition-manager [06:27] Run the following command, replacing /dev/sdx with your drive, e.g. /dev/sdb. (do not append a partition number, so do not use something like /dev/sdb1) [06:27] dd bs=4M if=/path/to/archlinux.iso of=/dev/sdx && sync [06:27] from my notes on dd [06:27] off the wiki for arch [06:28] is there a terminal command to format ? [06:28] surely there is [06:28] http://askubuntu.com/questions/372607/how-to-create-a-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive-from-terminal [06:28] yeuoa: dd is the one [06:28] what does dd stand for? [06:30] disk destroyer [06:30] ok [06:30] But really you just point the code correctly and wait and it works. [06:30] http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_node/dd-invocation.html#dd-invocation [06:31] or man dd from the commandline [06:31] *wait* being the important part [06:31] it's not fast [06:31] just good [06:31] i can't get kubuntu to mount my usb drive.. [06:31] good enough to wreck your HD if you do the command wrong [06:31] so its hard getting anything to work at this point [06:31] True that. [06:32] i even restarted the computer before i came in here..its not working [06:32] yeuoa: the device manager doesn't see it? [06:32] no [06:32] and yet you installed from it [06:32] you should be able to see your drive with lsblk command [06:32] valorie, it was working fine until i used gparted a few ago [06:33] ah [06:33] then unfortunately it might be wrecked [06:33] they seem to die rather easily [06:33] Chronotoss, yes lsblk finds the drive [06:34] okay so it's not mounted, gparted will unmount a disk before use. [06:34] cool [06:34] you can still dd to install then whoo! [06:36] im getting nowhere here [06:37] don't let me scare you out of using dd [06:37] dd: failed to open ‘/path/to/archlinux.iso’: No such file or directory [06:37] do you have the iso of xubuntu downloaded and verified? [06:37] ! [06:37] yes [06:38] you put that path to *that* there [06:38] i see. [06:38] i am a newb bear with me [06:38] like ~/Downloads/xubuntu.iso <--- only use the real path, and real name [06:38] got it [06:39] and it must be exact [06:39] if you want to know the path to the file, right click it and go to properties, then that's your path, then add the filename at the end. [06:40] ok maybe its working now [06:40] the drive is flashing...but i dont see any progress bars or anything heh [06:40] Youwont [06:40] ok [06:41] and you say this takes a long time? [06:41] depends on the file and speed of the bus your working with. for me it was two minutes for a ~500 meg [06:41] ok [06:41] xubuntu was 1g [06:42] and this is creating a bootable iso image on the usb [06:42] ? [06:42] most of the isos are a gig, yeah [06:42] yes [06:42] ok [06:43] yeuoa: you realize you can just install xubuntu-desktop and run that, right? [06:43] you do not have to do another install [06:43] you can, but do not have to [06:43] no i did not know that [06:43] that is one of the strengths of the ubuntu base [06:44] you can run unity, gnome, kde, lxde, xfce just by installing them [06:44] i had no clue [06:44] but kubuntu seems sluggish and i was wanting to try xubuntu [06:44] oh, and mate [06:45] !releases [06:45] Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months to 5 years. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases [06:45] oh, that doesn't have the flavors, sorry [06:45] how do i just install xubuntu from here? [06:46] in the commandline: sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop [06:47] thats awesome [06:47] thank you [06:47] indeed! [06:47] all the flavor people are cool [06:47] not that unity people aren't [06:47] and to try the others..i would use sudo apt install gnome-desktop? [06:48] but I know more of the flavor teams [06:48] mmmm [06:48] !gnome [06:48] GNOME was the default desktop environment on Ubuntu up to 10.10. To install the GNOME Shell, type [ sudo apt-get install gnome-shell ] in a !terminal. For the GNOME-based !flavor of Ubuntu, see !ubuntu-gnome [06:48] !ubuntu-gnome [06:48] Ubuntu GNOME is a supported !flavor of Ubuntu that uses !GNOME as the default desktop environment instead of Unity. For more info or to download, see http://www.ubuntugnome.org/ or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/OneStopPage [06:48] im not sure how one remembers all these commands lol [06:48] Use them, over and over and over [06:48] and write them XD [06:48] oh, I just guess what ubottu knows [06:49] when I get it wrong, it says it doesn't know, in private [06:49] lol [06:49] gotta love bots [06:50] pfff, I don't know if it's still gnome-desktop or gnome-shell or what in the command [06:50] but at worst you just get an error message [06:51] ubuntu-gnome-desktop for the Ubuntu GNOME stuff. gnome-shell for upstream [06:51] I like the gnome people, but not the desktop [06:51] thanks, rww [06:51] (comparable to kubuntu-desktop vs. whatever y'all use instead of kde-standard) [06:52] plasma-desktop i think [06:52] yup [06:53] I never saw a need to install multiple desktop types. Is there a use? [06:53] testing, I guess? [06:54] I've only done it once, and it was for that reason [06:55] I've installed a new desktop, but that was getting rid of gnome for K [06:56] well, I did that a couple of times too [06:57] right now I"m trying to figure out why my ~/.cache/dconf folder has a root owner. [06:57] chroot it [06:57] you probably ran something as sudo when you shouldn't have [06:58] or used sudo instead of kdesudo [06:58] I did that... I also tried to nuke it in tty and reboot and it came back that way again. [06:58] well, you can log out, then move or delete it [06:58] but if you haven't logged out, it is *instantly* recreated [06:59] I was logged out and nuked it under another user. [06:59] hmmm [07:00] well, try chown -R username folder/ [07:00] Did that. [07:00] you can do it on your whole ~/home [07:00] although it will take longer [07:00] My home is small thank god. [07:02] it's not affecting anything right now, at least from what I can tell, but I've been told there should be no root owner in my home. So I've been looking it over. deleting it, looking things up and trying it. [07:02] right, that's part of the definition of $HOME [07:02] vs / (root) [07:02] Right. [07:06] valorie, ok its done, now what [07:06] yeuoa: what's done? [07:06] the xubuntu desktop install [07:07] logout, and grub should let you choose [07:07] ok ill try thanks [07:07] oops, I was going to say, you may need to update grub [07:08] I was about to say, at this point you should only get to it at log-in right? [07:08] yeah [07:12] valorie, i didnt get a choice...it just booted into this [07:12] valorie, has a pic of a mouse on the desktop lol [07:12] then you have xubuntu [07:12] hmm ok and kubuntu is gone theni guess [07:13] you might need to update grub if you want to switch back and forth [07:13] nope, not gone [07:13] !grub [07:13] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [07:14] just run `update-grub` [07:14] in the commandline [07:15] I want to optimize the video a little bit more, makes my crappy laptop nvidia cry. any Thoughts? [07:16] !nvidia [07:16] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [07:16] any one know how to start orca in sddm ? I am writing a theme and all I can think is to use qprocess [07:16] gsettings is not working [07:17] like use qprocess -> then use gesttings would be super annoying for it to start out the bat [07:20] Humm interesting reading. I don't know if it will help but i'll have to read all the material first to be sure. [07:22] Yeah it is like because there is no user that I can not use it. But I can 100% access all the Gsettings with a custom class so not sure *Oo [07:23] Ohh I'm sorry mJImmer, I was responding to valorie. I've never written a theme before so I cannot help too much. [07:24] mJImmer: probably best to ask in #kde-devel, or perhaps better in #kde-accessibility [07:24] that is fine I will figure it out. [07:25] crazy thing is I have to keep on droping to shell to test lol brb [07:26] well, I've used orca before to test, so it works in kubuntu [07:26] I guess themes are difficult to make? I've been pondering as well a way to control each applications volume, I know you should be able to. have yet to figure out how. [07:34] Chronotoss: can look at other themes and see how they do it [07:36] I could, then I would have to take my time away from my other tinkerings and start a new tinkering. I have alot on my plate right now as I'm leaning Plasma and Kubuntu, as well as more about Linux. [07:50] hellO_o === jussi is now known as Guest94211 === Guest94211 is now known as jussi01 [09:21] Good morning. [09:21] Morning [09:23] Hey Smurphy, how are you doing? [11:39] lordievader: Sorry. In calls all day ... -> doing work. [12:17] Hi all. Is there any way to install i386 dev libs and keep 64bit libs? I want to compile wine so I need couple of 32bit libs but, for example, when trying to install dbus:i386 apt-get want to remove dbus package and I want to avoid that. Any ideas? [12:17] ejay: i think better to ask on #ubuntu :) [12:18] ejay: But it is possible, yes. [12:18] Smurphy: how? [12:21] Now I'm like - how badly I effed up my OS because I just installed a bunch of i386 libs including xrandr and x11 and such and never took a look if apt-get is removing anything I need. [13:06] ejay: have you tried setting up a i386 chroot environment? [13:22] clivejo: I have not. [13:46] Hey folks [13:46] BluesKaj: Howdy [13:47] hi hazamonzo [13:55] Hi. Is it just me or is it currently not possible to run "kvm -cdrom xenial-desktop-amd64.iso" on a 15.10 (x64) host without triggering a kernel panic ("VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)")? (It works using VirtualBox, though.) [13:56] The same goes for kubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso, btw. === struk|desk|away is now known as struk|desk2 [15:08] there is no audio in online flash videos. what to do? [15:23] Turn up volume. === struk|desk2 is now known as struk|desk|away [16:21] I just upgraded to 15.10 from 14.04 and now when I try to log in kwin crashed continuesly so I don't even get a desktop. Someone knows how to fix that? [16:24] esperegu: clean install? [16:24] BluesKaj: I am afraid to lose my stuff.... [16:26] (besides having to reconfigure everything) [16:26] BluesKaj: its not windows is it? ;-) [16:28] esperegu, skipping over a release even though it's EOL requires a clean install, unless you have separate / (root) and /home partitions, then you can install to / and all your conf files and data will be saved from the previous install === joel_ is now known as Guest92702 [16:50] BluesKaj: all on one partition. I did not skip the upgrade. just immediately after reboot upgraded again. [16:50] the first upgrade was stuck initially by the way [16:52] esperegu, so where are you stuck ? [16:53] BluesKaj: now by the crash of kwin. I am now removing all kubuntu desktop related packages and will try to reinstall them [16:53] hope that will let me in again. [16:56] esperegu, can you get to a vt/tty to update, upgrade and install packages? [16:56] BluesKaj: I am logged in via ssh [16:57] BluesKaj: just removed a lot of packages. now installing kubuntu-desktop === kubuntu is now known as Ivan97 [16:57] also install plasma-desktop [16:58] BluesKaj: kubuntu-desktop depends on it.... [17:00] esperegu, you may be stuck due to 14.10 being EOL with no active repositories, so my advice is to change the /etc/apt/sources.list debs from utopis to vivid, if you think that's the problem [17:00] utopia rather [17:01] I thought it had to do with plasma so I moved my .kde folder but that made no difference [17:05] boh... mi sò scassat' u' cazz! [17:05] esperegu, sudo sed -i 's/utopia/vivid/' /etc/apt/sources.list' [17:06] that command will change your sources.list to 15.04 and update and upgrade should work [17:07] drop the quote mark at the end [17:07] sudo sed -i 's/lucid/maverick/' /etc/apt/sources.list [17:08] oops esperegu don't copy and paste the above [17:09] that's an example I keep in my cli commands text file [17:13] BluesKaj: but it's already at 15.10 [17:21] esperegu, your sources.list shows wily ? [17:22] BluesKaj: think so. lemme check. its now rebooting [17:23] BluesKaj: jep [17:24] hi, i wanna add a Telegram account but when i try it says you need morse for that to work but there is no morse package related! what can i do? :c === michel_ is now known as michelsedgh [17:25] ok , esperegu, still having upgrade freeze [17:25] BluesKaj: no. but still crashing on kwin [17:25] BluesKaj: think it is an xorg.conf issue [17:26] do you have an xorg.conf file? [17:26] yes [17:26] BluesKaj: without it it starts the desktop. but of course not with my monitors properly.... [17:27] BluesKaj: food first. brb [17:27] best to delete it and start over with nothing and let the default graphics driver do the work [17:27] then find the right driver for your gpu and install it [17:44] i have a fresh install of ubuntu 14.04 LTS with Unity, anything to know before installing KDE ? [17:45] BigFredy, install kubuntu-desktop and then you can choose which desktop you want to use at login [17:47] BluesKaj: is it possible to disable a driver? [17:47] BluesKaj : Thanks, i'm on the way. [17:47] esperegu, which driver needs disabling? [17:47] BluesKaj: well. I see intel and nvidia in xorg [17:48] esperegu, do you have hybrid gpus / optimus system? [17:49] BluesKaj: desktop with 2 Nvidia cards (and build in video) [17:49] BluesKaj: I used the 2 nvidia cards with xinerama [17:50] esperegu,did you see my suggestion above about deleting your xorg.conf for now and using the default to keep things stable til we get your setup syraightened out? [17:51] straightened out even [17:51] BluesKaj: yes. I am running without xorg.conf atm [17:51] BluesKaj: it logs in now [17:51] (no crashes) [17:51] ok , are pci gpus the same chip? [17:51] think so [17:52] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1 [17:52] 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF119 [GeForce GT 520] (rev a1) [17:53] esperegu, ok looks good, check in system settings>driver manager for the recommended nvidia driver ..probly the nvidia-340 or 352 [17:54] Xorg.0.log: NVIDIA dlloader X Driver 340.96 Sun Nov 8 21:46:28 PST 2015 [17:55] esperegu, ok in the terminal, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes [17:56] Kernel driver in use: nvidia [17:56] Kernel driver in use: nvidia [17:56] ok , then you're good to go [17:57] BluesKaj: what then? [17:59] esperegu, I'm not very knowledgeable about multiple monitors, unfortunately , but I'm ure someone else here can help with that or you could ask in #ubuntu or #kde [17:59] BluesKaj: looks like a bug.. .reading up on it: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343844 [17:59] KDE bug 343844 in core "Kwin makes unconditional access to randr extension in (at least) XRandRScreens::update()" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] [18:00] I have to go push some snow..we had a storm yesterday...BBL [18:10] so what can I install so I can get the version mentioned in the bug report? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343844#c64 [18:10] KDE bug 343844 in core "Kwin makes unconditional access to randr extension in (at least) XRandRScreens::update()" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] [18:43] anyone? how to get the latest plasma in kubuntu? [18:46] esperegu, depends, if you're willing to try unstable ppas on launchpad [18:46] BluesKaj: preferably as stable as possible of course. [18:46] BluesKaj: there no releases? [18:47] the plasma 5.5.3 for wily isn't totally packaged yet, the devs are still working out the kinks [18:48] BluesKaj: and 5.5.2 ? [18:49] BluesKaj: according to that comment it is fixed in 5.5 [18:50] 5.4.3 goes to 5.5.3 next afaik [18:51] ok , back to the snow...bbl [19:20] BluesKaj : i am back with KDE desktop but something is wrong with the keyboard [19:20] hi. does Kubuntu provide source DVDs like Debian does? (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/source/iso-dvd/). [19:22] i'm thinking for the convenience of hardware vendors shipping Kubuntu pre-installed, which need to provide the source for all shipped GPL software on durable media, or a written offer to provide it that is valid for 3 years. [19:23] BigFredy, make sure you update and upgrade now [19:26] update & upgrade done [19:27] estan_, images are only available for download. The dvd/cd disks are no longer available [19:28] BigFredy, ok , install kubuntu-restricted-extras [19:29] BluesKaj: bah. sorry i phrased it wrong, i meant DVD ISOs. [19:29] BluesKaj: and note that i meant source DVD ISOs, not the regular install media, but the sources (like at the debian URL above). [19:31] BluesKaj : Perfect ! keyboard works fine now [19:33] estan_, there no disk with isos available whether source or regular install media, whatever you mean by that [19:35] Other thing, in the taskbar the keyboard icon let me only choose English, no way to change ibus settings [19:38] BluesKaj: sorry, i'm unclear. i'm not asking about physical DVD for purchase, but ISO images, like you can download at http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/ . but those are the regular install media. i meant source ISOs, containing the source of all the packages. [19:38] at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/source/iso-dvd/ , Debian offers 11 DVDs containing the source of all the packages in Debian. i was just thinking if Kubuntu has the equivalent somewhere. [19:40] i'm guessing that Debian offers those as a convenience for hardware vendors that wish to ship Debian pre-installed, and immediately satisfy the requirement of GPL to provide the source by including those DVDs, instead of having to make an offer (valid for 3 years) to provide it, which is the other option in the GPL. [19:40] estan_: like a mirror of the sources? [19:40] denza242: well yes, but put into ISO images for convenient burning. [19:40] hmm [19:41] the GPL requires it to be on physical media, if you take the option of providing the source straight away at the time you sell it. [19:41] so i guess that's why Debian has those ISOs. [19:41] (if you take the option of making a 3-year promise to provide the source, you're allowed to do so through a network) [19:41] estan_: https://www.osdisc.com/products/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu-1510-software-repository-64bit.html [19:43] denza242: that does not seem to be the source of the packages, but the packages themselves. [19:43] but i guess there's no equivalent to those Debian ISOs for Kubuntu. [19:43] estan_: it can be used as a repository [19:43] wait [19:44] of course. [19:44] estan_: like, the source code of the packages? [19:44] yes. like the Debian ISOs. [19:44] hmm [19:44] i'm asking about the source code. i'm mainly interested from a hardware vendor point of view. [19:45] estan_: also, there probably won't be a "Kubuntu" one, since Kubuntu pulls all packages from Ubuntu [19:46] i see. there are no Kubuntu specific packages what so ever? [19:46] I think there an issue with my Ibus preferences [19:47] estan_: there's kubuntu packages, but nothing that can't be downloaded from the main ubuntu repositories [19:47] when reload, it set my keyboard to qwerty [19:47] i.e. kubuntu-desktop [19:47] because as a hardware vendor, if you ship GPL software preinstalled, you are obliged to offer the source, either on durable media (like DVDs, bluerays) as part of the sale, or as a valid-for-3-year offer to provide it either on durable media or for download. [19:47] denza242: alright. [19:47] estan_, if you check the kubuntu sources.list you see the src debs listed there, if that's what you mean [19:47] ^ [19:48] BluesKaj: how does system76 do it? [19:49] denza242, I assume they follow the FOSS rules for vendor installation OSs, whatever they might be. [19:49] estan_: I would ask these guys how they handle the issue with source https://system76.com/ [19:49] BluesKaj: yes. sure. i know that i can always gather the sources myself. i was just wondering if there was anything as convenient as what Debian has, pre-made DVD ISOs with all the sources. [19:49] estan_: tried looking and got nothing [19:50] denza242: yea. i would guess that most vendors don't take the first option of the GPL (to ship the code at the time of purchase), but take the offer route instead. [19:50] yea. i think it doesn't exist. thanks for looking. [19:50] estan_: sorry we couldn't find it for you [19:50] good luck [19:51] i'm just thinking. if i was a hardware vendor, i wouldn't count on repositories et.c. being available, since i'll be legally obliged to provide the source for 3 years, i would want to have my own private mirror. [19:51] estan_: if you have the bandwidth, you could host a mirror yourself [19:51] that's why it's more convenient in a way to provide the source up-front at the time you sell the machine. because then you've complied with GPL and don't have to think about it. [19:51] heh yea. [19:52] i think those 11 Debian DVDs ISOs would fit exactly on one dual-layer Bluray disc btw :) [19:53] so if you don't sell many machines (which is my situation), then shipping the source at the time i sell the machine would be more convenient than having to make sure it's available somewhere for 3 years. [19:53] (and it's three years after you provided the object code _or_ after you provided the last spare part for the machine). [19:53] GPL is complicated :) === phil is now known as Guest10712 [20:06] how to install more inputs methods in Ibus ? [20:14] ibus input method French added, did'nt saw the arrow at first sight, then it was easy [20:51] BluesKaj: which ppa u advice? [21:04] BluesKaj: Thanks for help, everything is fine now. KDE is running [21:35] guys i'm using 14.10 and i can't apt-get update. us.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com not found. where are the utopic repos? [21:40] It's End Of Life [21:41] !14.10 [21:41] Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic [21:41] !upgrade [21:41] For upgrading instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WilyUpgrades/Kubuntu [21:45] !eolupgrade [21:45] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [21:45] There, that one [21:45] * genii wanders back to work [21:45] thanks genii [21:48]