[07:51] <DJones> Aww, David Bowie has passed away
[07:52] <daftykins> mmm
[07:52] <daftykins> surprising
[07:52] <DJones> Yeah, battling cancer for 18 months according to new reports
[07:53] <DJones> I guess not the sort of thing somebody in the public eye would normally speak about
[07:53] <knightwise> Good morning everyone
[07:53] <daftykins> gm o/
[07:54] <DJones> Morning knightwise
[08:00] <daftykins> hrmm solid rain planned for the day... that makes it harder to be motivated to do much :)
[08:02] <DJones> I think I'd rather have rain and a bit of warmth, rather than just cold temperatures, saying that, I'm indoors all day, so doesn't make much difference, looks like we get the rain tomorrow
[08:03] <daftykins> it's doing a threatening sort of swirl - http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
[08:04] <knightwise> Its getting chilly here :à
[08:05] <knightwise>  looking forward to some winter, hold off on the snow Since I need to drive
[08:05] <DJones> First time ages I've had to deice the cars this morning
[08:06] <daftykins> i need to visit an electrical supplier and then ride on to a clients to get a phone socket working, blech :)
[08:08] <daftykins> hmm though i normally loathe forever speaking of the wars, there are some interesting snaps in this one - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-34544925
[08:11] <knightwise> God .. the media will be bowie-dized for days
[08:12] <daftykins> a better fate than the star wars hype :P
[08:14] <knightwise> Haven't had time to go see the move yet
[08:15] <knightwise> Still suffering from my "JJ-abrams reboot psychosis"
[08:15] <knightwise> Looking at what he did to the star trek franchise , i look fearfully upon the white screen
[08:16] <DJones> After the recent deaths from the music world, Lemmy, Bowie, Bradbury, Weiland, Taylor etc, there's be one hell of a supergroup in the heavens now
[08:21] <knightwise> Labyrith : David Bowie at his very very best
[08:26] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:27] <knightwise> Morning MooDoo
[08:27] <daftykins> knightwise: my friends say it wasn't so much him in that film, but his crotch
[08:27] <knightwise> "May the direction of bowies fallus point you towards the end of the labyrinth"
[09:04] <popey> yo
[09:04] <daftykins> allo
[09:05] <daftykins> cor, proper hail storm just now
[09:08] <MooDoo> ello
[09:13] <knightwise> hey MooDoo
[09:13] <knightwise> hows it going buddy
[09:20] <MooDoo> knightwise: feel a bit low this morning, don't think I got enough sleep this morning :)
[09:20] <MooDoo> sleep last night even!
[09:20] <foobarry> snot
[09:20] <foobarry> bleugh
[09:21] <daftykins> gm foobarry \o
[09:22] <foobarry> o/
[09:22]  * daftykins nips off on postie watch
[09:28] <foobarry> dogs are good for that
[09:33] <foobarry> wow. just discovered a bug in lsdvd that causes all memory on the machine to be instantyly consumed
[09:35] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Learn Your Name In Morse Code Day! 😃
[09:36] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait
[09:36] <MooDoo> .--. .- ..- .-.. / -- . .-.. .-.. --- .-. ...
[09:40] <Laney> .-- . .-.. .-.. / - .... .. ... / .. ... / ..-. ..- -.
[09:40] <JamesTait> Very good, MooDoo! ☺
[09:42] <JamesTait> Laney, -.-- . ... / .. - / .. ... !
[10:12] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:14] <knightwise> hey brobostigon
[10:14] <knightwise> how are you doing
[10:15] <MooDoo> howdy brobostigon
[10:15] <brobostigon> hi knightwise, not bad, my eczema could be better, and you?
[10:15] <brobostigon> hi MooDoo
[10:17] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoi2vx3iegw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgG-tXyq6E
[10:19] <davmor2> JamesTait: the morse I hear as I take hold of software is ... --- ... and it just repeats all the time
[10:20] <davmor2> JamesTait: I take it that must be my name in morse right?
[11:35] <diplo> Morning all, we've been having issues with time on our servers so I'm going through setting up ntpd on our customer sites, question though as my google foo is sucking
[11:36] <diplo> Our documents are timed, I can't see how often ntpd daemon keeps up to date, just a little worried about the sync being out by minutes and then sorting itself and a credit goes through say before an invoice is created.
[11:41] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[11:41] <daftykins> hey bigcalm \o
[11:47] <daftykins> another dead disk identified, oy.
[11:47] <zmoylan-pi> remove it and hammer it in front of all the other disks as a warning... :-)
[11:48] <davmor2> daftykins: is it named Bowie they all seem to die on the days stars do
[11:49] <daftykins> too soon!
[11:51] <Myrtti> deffo too soon
[11:53] <zmoylan-pi> he may be gone but the music he left...
[11:54] <davmor2> daftykins: nothing person by it, was more meaning that I'm pretty sure you disks seem to die around the same time as a Star (mind you we lost a lot in the last 12 months)
[11:54] <daftykins> it's ok, it's just a user in #ubuntu ;)
[11:54] <daftykins> one that it took many, many tries to run a couple of commands :/
[11:55] <davmor2> zmoylan-pi: Indeed and it is wonderful Music too :)
[12:00] <daftykins> diplo: did you run it by the #ubuntu-server folks? sorry no experience with ntpd
[12:20] <diplo> I think I've worked it out daftykins
[12:20] <daftykins> \o/
[12:20] <diplo> Uses min/maxpoll, over a few days it works out how often it needs to update, between 63 seconds and 1024 seconds depending on the machine
[12:20] <diplo> You can hard code it but advice is not to
[12:21] <daftykins> i had heard installing it will only slowly begin to adjust toward the intended time, in increments
[12:21] <diplo> Ah, I've fixed each site to be correct before setting it up
[12:21] <daftykins> sounds good :)
[12:22] <diplo> Only hoping it keeps it on time, will inspect each site that I've already done and see how they are fairing before doing more :)
[13:57] <diddledan> davmor2: the second of those songs was well timed considering the news of David Bowie's passing :-(
[13:57] <diddledan> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35278872
[13:58]  * diddledan listens to life on mars
[13:58]  * zmoylan-pi wonders how high his music goes in the charts in next few weeks
[14:09] <davmor2> there is a new album out isn't there so possibly number 1
[14:09] <daftykins> yeah
[14:10] <davmor2> I would imagine if they re-release ashes to ashes, space oddity and red shoes they would get 123 in the single charts
[14:27] <knightwise> Just installed FireSSH in Firefox.
[14:27] <knightwise> pleasantly surprised
[14:34] <knightwise> looks like putty ,feels like putty
[14:34] <knightwise> isnt putty
[14:34] <daftykins> does it do URL parsing so you can click links?
[14:34] <daftykins> i guess it *is* in a browser XD
[14:34] <diddledan> I get putty and lube confused.
[14:34] <diddledan> all my windows keep falling out
[14:35] <SuperMatt> badum *CRASH*
[14:36] <daftykins> amusing story last night that skylake CPUs have a bug which gets tripped by prime95, the intensive prime number program - causing a full freeze
[14:36] <daftykins> BIOS updates will be on the way :)
[14:37] <knightwise> daftykins: it should
[14:37] <knightwise> but it doenst refresh the screen well
[14:37] <knightwise> Hence: Switched to SecureShell in chrome
[14:38] <diddledan> yeesh, is it a bug in the cpu itself?
[14:38] <diddledan> that will be a pain to fix properly
[14:38] <daftykins> that's what microcode updates are for :)
[14:39] <daftykins> there wasn't much detail in theregister's article
[14:54] <SuperMatt> question: why is ssh in a browser window preferable to an actual terminal window?
[14:55] <davmor2> You remind me of the babe
[14:55] <diddledan> what babe?
[14:56] <bittin-> this bae
[14:56] <bittin-> :p
[14:56] <diddledan> ruined it
[14:56] <diddledan> davmor2: try again
[14:56]  * SuperMatt throws his hands up in the air in exasperation
[14:56]  * diddledan tuts
[14:57] <SuperMatt> you remind me of the babe. what babe? the babe with the power. what power? the power of voodoo. Who do? You do. Do what? Remind me of the babe
[14:57] <SuperMatt> there, we've got it all
[14:57] <diddledan> https://youtu.be/K7cFXSDN_5k
[14:57] <SuperMatt> and I don't know why I started adding caps in the middle
[14:58] <davmor2> You remind me of the Babe
[14:58] <SuperMatt> What babe?
[14:58] <davmor2> babae with the power
[14:58] <davmor2> -a
[14:58] <SuperMatt> What Power
[14:58] <davmor2> power of voodoo
[14:58] <SuperMatt> Who do?
[14:58] <davmor2> you do
[14:59] <SuperMatt> Do what?
[14:59] <davmor2> remind me of the babe
[14:59] <diddledan> \o/
[14:59] <davmor2> \o/ thanks SuperMatt
[14:59] <SuperMatt> you're welcome
[14:59] <diddledan> gotta love collaborative singing
[15:00]  * SuperMatt nods
[15:00]  * SuperMatt is dying for a little nap
[15:00] <diddledan> mmm, snoozing ftw
[15:01] <SuperMatt> I just wanna be back at the flat with the cat
[15:01] <diddledan> kittie!
[15:01] <diddledan> I want a kittie
[15:01] <MooDoo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
[15:03] <SuperMatt> diddledan: we adopted a 14 year old with dietry issues, and he's just such a lovely chap
[15:03] <diddledan> awww
[15:03]  * diddledan cuddles
[15:03] <SuperMatt> https://goo.gl/photos/XAjrWrRKFsfWp4cYA
[15:03] <diddledan> soo cute with his lil teddy bear!
[15:04] <SuperMatt> https://goo.gl/photos/pjGvNHhF4iEasDW17 - here he is playing "The floor is lava" which I try to fix some ikea drawers for more stability
[15:05] <SuperMatt> *while
[15:05] <diddledan> I read a while back that geeky/engineering types prefer cats over dogs
[15:06] <SuperMatt> I prefer dogs because they're more intelligent in my eyes, but the cat is low maintenance, and it's what the girl wanted
[15:06] <diddledan> based on my sample of me, I can state that the belief is 100% accurate
[15:06] <SuperMatt> very good science, well done
[15:07] <diddledan> I do like dogs, too, though, just prefer the company of a kittie :-)
[15:11] <popey> Trying to convince wife we should get a dogy
[15:11] <popey> but she's not having any of it
[15:12] <diddledan> popey: convince the kids then the wife has to capitulate under the weight of democracy :-p
[15:12] <Myrtti> popey: why not? hair and dust?
[15:12] <popey> poo
[15:12] <Myrtti> pft.
[15:12] <diddledan> poopey :-p
[15:13] <Myrtti> I'd want a Finnish lapphund but I think it'll have to wait a bit longer
[15:16] <Myrtti> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdcTHQ6OQHk
[15:18] <SuperMatt> popey: if the missus can change a nappy, she can pick up after a dog!
[15:18] <SuperMatt> In fact, it's often less messy
[15:18] <popey> yeah, we're both capable of doing it
[15:19] <popey> changing a nappy is a matter of necessity
[15:19] <Myrtti> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dyson-Cinetic-DC54-i-Brand-New-5-year-Dyson-guarantee-/111821945687 ♥
[15:20] <Myrtti> or rather, I love this even more than the vacuum itself http://www.dyson.co.uk/vacuum-cleaners/accessories/pet-hair/tangle-free-turbine-tool.aspx
[15:29] <foobarry> "pet hair"
[15:30] <foobarry> my wifes hair is what tangles it
[15:30] <foobarry> dog hair is tiny
[15:31] <ujjain> do most mortgage providers allow overpayment or not?
[15:31] <foobarry> hard to generalise, need to check per mortgage i expect
[15:31] <Myrtti> foobarry: yes, and my yarn.
[15:31] <foobarry> and dental floss
[15:31] <Myrtti> yarn and human hair were our reasons to get it
[15:31] <foobarry> if it doesn't go in the bin completely, it wanders out
[15:32] <foobarry> my wife has been dying her yarns lately too
[15:32] <foobarry> she has borrowed a drum carder
[15:32] <foobarry> so is getting fleeces, washing, drumming , dyeing, spinning
[15:36] <popey> ujjain, yes AIUI
[15:36] <ujjain> right, I might have a look on buying a first house.
[15:37] <diddledan> remember popey INAL
[15:37] <moreati> Sanity check: Ubuntu 15.10 users, when you change volume with multimedia keyboard keys, does anything appear on the screen?
[15:38] <diddledan> yes
[15:38] <SuperMatt> ujjain: basically it all depends on what your provider allows. Some will allow you to over pay, but won't let you miss a payment even if you've over paid 11 out of 12 months, others just won't let you over pay at all
[15:38] <moreati> right, I did break something then. ty diddledan
[15:38] <ujjain> right, I'll write this on my checklist, find a provider that'll allow it.
[15:38] <SuperMatt> and you definitely cannot under pay on a mortgage
[15:38] <ujjain> eh, hehe, right.
[15:38] <SuperMatt> ujjain: if it's your first buy, you'll find the number of providers is veeeeeeeeeeery slim
[15:38] <diddledan> moreati: specifically a progress-bar-like indicator on the top-right of the screen telling you the current volume level
[15:39] <ujjain> I have a good salary though and I don't need an expensive house.
[15:41] <SuperMatt> ujjain: that's what I thought, though I am in london meaning I have to jump through more hoops that most
[15:43] <diddledan> moreati: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4zzz02q1r5bnpr/Screenshot%20from%202016-01-11%2015-41-23.png?dl=0
[15:43] <foobarry> all houses are expensive in london
[15:43] <foobarry> one of my mortgages wouldn't let me overpay within first 3 years
[15:45] <SuperMatt> tell me about it
[15:45] <SuperMatt> my two bed flat is twice the price of my borther's two up two down
[15:45] <SuperMatt> *brother
[15:46] <SuperMatt> but he now has a child to worry about, and I'm sitting pretty with my kitty
[15:52] <ujjain> I'm in London too
[15:53] <ujjain> I don't really necessarily want to overpay right now, but if interest rises to e.g. 6%
[15:53] <ujjain> I'd like the option to overpay
[15:55] <ujjain> 2% or 6% on 500k, first affordable, second one deadly
[15:59] <popey> holy cow, this year I'll have lived in this house 15 years!
[16:00] <diddledan> bovine deity!
[16:02] <ujjain> congrats! :)
[16:02] <foobarry> is that also the length of your marriage?
[16:02] <foobarry> so far
[16:09]  * zmoylan-pi wonders if popey's residence is ipv4 or ipv6 :-)
[16:10] <popey> no, 16 years
[16:10] <popey> married in 2000 so I could easily remember how many years I've been wed
[16:11] <bigcalm> popey: is it the way I have configured my phone, or does the PlusOne X have a pants battery life?
[16:11] <popey> '97 met, '98 rented together, '99 engaged, '00 house, '01-02 nuffink, '03 first child :)
[16:11] <popey> bigcalm, define pants?
[16:11] <popey> i dunno mine is often plugged in
[16:11] <popey> and i never leave the house
[16:11] <bigcalm> popey: 100% charge this morning. 25% charge now
[16:12] <popey> i often turn on android power saving
[16:12] <bigcalm> I did drive to work today, so was without wifi for about an hour
[16:12] <popey> i have bluetooth on all the time mostly, for pebble
[16:12] <bigcalm> Do you have the gestures enabled?
[16:12] <popey> yes
[16:12] <popey> circle and v?
[16:12] <bigcalm> I have bt on for my wrist band thing
[16:12] <bigcalm> popey: yes o and v
[16:12] <bigcalm> Maybe it's because I've only just got the phone and thus playing with it more
[16:13] <popey> battery thing says 88% approx 21 hrs left
[16:13] <popey> i turned off some animations and stuff
[16:13] <ujjain> you can't rent out your own home if you have a mortgage, right?
[16:13] <popey> http://imgur.com/nZIZtL5
[16:14] <popey> depends on the mortgage
[16:14] <ujjain> for me '14, didn't know eachother '15 met, '15 she got kicked out of the country,
[16:14] <popey> erk
[16:16] <bigcalm> http://imgur.com/IwfzkAe
[16:17] <bigcalm> Seems it wasn't 100% this morning but last night. Even so
[16:17] <popey> lots of screen on time
[16:17] <popey> so yeah, you're probably playing with it more than me
[16:18] <bigcalm> Aye
[16:18] <popey> like the device tho?
[16:18] <bigcalm> It'll improve over time
[16:18] <bigcalm> Very much so
[16:18] <ujjain> I used to have a Nexus 5, battery was horrid, I played too much with it I guess
[16:18] <popey> i hate that i keep pressing the power button when i pick it up
[16:18] <ujjain> @popey; too many notifications
[16:19] <ujjain> they don't bother you?
[16:19] <popey> well done
[16:19] <bigcalm> popey: slightly regretting buying the Karbon shell with my order. Didn't realise that it came with a clear jelly shell that is nicer to use.
[16:19] <popey> I wondered who would be the first to mention the notifications
[16:19] <popey> why would they bother me, it's on my desk, with the display off
[16:19] <bigcalm> popey: I haven't done that. But I do keep pressing volume down when I want to press power
[16:19] <popey> phones should have power buttons on the top, not the side
[16:19] <popey> [FACT]
[16:19] <popey> iphone 4 was the pinnacle of phone design imo :)
[16:20] <zmoylan-pi> nokia e61i to my mind
[16:20] <popey> was that symbian?
[16:20] <zmoylan-pi> yup
[16:21] <zmoylan-pi> was all downhill after the e61i
[16:23] <Myrtti> I loved my N95
[16:24] <zmoylan-pi> the n95, another classic. met a hotel porter who used the n95 to torrent movies in his pocket while he was at work
[16:25] <Myrtti> I used it for IRC, and for taking the best photos I've ever taken, and listening to audiobooks
[16:25] <SuperMatt> no way he won't be found out
[16:25] <ujjain> 11 days into the year and still no tube strike, it’s a miraccccccleee 😄
[16:25]  * ujjain opens newspaper
[16:26] <ujjain> Tuesday 26 January - Tube Strike
[16:26]  * SuperMatt nods sagely
[16:26] <SuperMatt> I don't know whether to try to work from home, or take annual leave
[16:26] <zmoylan-pi> it willen have been a tube strike if it happens... :-)
[16:27] <ujjain> work from home, that's what Mitchell and Webb'd do.
[16:28] <SuperMatt> yeah, but what about the wa...
[16:32] <bigcalm> popey: am I mad or is there no gallery app on the phone? (ignoring Google photos)
 yes
[16:32] <popey> thats the default photos app now, innit?
[16:32] <bigcalm> Is it? Didn't realise that
[16:33] <popey> i thought so
[16:33] <bigcalm> After taking a photo, one can scroll though past photos. Thought that was using a gallery app
[16:33] <popey> that used to be the case
[16:33] <popey> but Google merged them into one app i thought
[16:34] <popey> if you search play store for gallery then you'll find google photos
[16:34] <popey> thats the app i use
[16:34] <popey> i thought it was pre-installed?
[16:35] <bigcalm> It is pre-installed
[16:35] <bigcalm> On my SGS5 with CM12.1 (and now 13.0), there was a separate app for Gallery that wasn't Google photos
[16:36] <bigcalm> Hence my surprise
[16:36] <bigcalm> I'll live :)
[16:38] <ujjain> Yeah, I prefered Gallery too
[16:41] <bigcalm> The camera is nice https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/686588390352007170
[16:43] <diddledan> bigcalm: you've got a nice pair
[16:43] <Myrtti> it's merged yeah
[16:43] <bigcalm> diddledan: they were a lovely juicy pair
[16:43] <Myrtti> bigcalm: which SW did you end up seeing?
[16:44] <bigcalm> Myrtti: imax 3d. It was okay
[16:44] <moreati> bigcalm: the 3D part or the SW part?
[16:44] <diddledan> I really need to go watch that
[16:44] <bigcalm> Myrtti: the drugs I'm on make my emotions quite muted. That said, I enjoyed the film, so that's saying something
[16:44] <Myrtti> the 3D was a lacklustre for me
[16:45] <Myrtti> bigcalm: I'm not on any drugs and it was a relatively muted affair for me, too. I cried far less than what I expected
[16:45] <bigcalm> I think that 3d shouldn't be the point of the film. An addition to it that you don't really notice but adds depth. Avatar did it well. I haven't seen it used correctly since then sadly
[16:45] <bigcalm> moreati: 2D would have been just as good
[16:46] <Myrtti> we watched Finding Nemo in 3D at home with the new telly and it was amazing
[16:47] <moreati> Myrtti: ditto, but saw Dredd
[16:48] <zmoylan-pi> the dredd movie was amazing, i would have loved to have seen that in cinema in 3d
[16:53] <bigcalm> Watched Empire Strikes Back (DVD) last night and saw that it was better than anything else, ever
[16:54] <diddledan> bigcalm: he said let there be starwars. and there was starwars. and he looked upon it and saw that it was good.
[16:54] <diddledan> day 8 of the creation story
[16:55] <zmoylan-pi> hmmm, my movie last night was ronin... and it was explody... :-)
[16:55] <bigcalm> Will likely watch Return of the Jedi at some point this week, though I know it will never live up to Empire
[16:55] <diddledan> wow, I've not seen that in forever
[16:55] <zmoylan-pi> great car chases, great shoot outs, great dialog...
[16:56] <zmoylan-pi> what colour is the boat house in hereford?!
[16:56] <zmoylan-pi> tonights movie... i went down...
[17:05] <awilkins> Dredd in 3D was pretty cool
[17:05] <awilkins> Especially the slowmo scenes
[17:06] <popey> bigcalm, yeah, I like the camera, but my previous phone camera I used was Nexus 4, so not hard to be better than that garbage
[17:06] <zmoylan-pi> unlike most movies which are just made 3d it looked like someone thought ahead with dredd and made bits of it to look spectacular in 3d
[17:22] <diddledan> just hit bug #1529146
[17:23] <diddledan> did a bit of research and posted a link to an LKML message about the issue onto the bug
[17:24] <diddledan> also added the redhat issue for the same into launchpad's tracking
[17:28] <diddledan> o_O "Bug watch updates for Red Hat Bugzilla are disabled." whyfor?
[17:28] <diddledan> silly launchpad
[20:00] <diddledan> yey for calendar reminders - I'd forgotten it was silent witness tonight
[20:34] <popey> diddledan, good work finding the patch
[20:38] <diddledan> thanks :-)
[21:22] <mapps> hi:D