=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [07:51] Aww, David Bowie has passed away [07:52] mmm [07:52] surprising [07:52] Yeah, battling cancer for 18 months according to new reports [07:53] I guess not the sort of thing somebody in the public eye would normally speak about [07:53] Good morning everyone [07:53] gm o/ [07:54] Morning knightwise [08:00] hrmm solid rain planned for the day... that makes it harder to be motivated to do much :) [08:02] I think I'd rather have rain and a bit of warmth, rather than just cold temperatures, saying that, I'm indoors all day, so doesn't make much difference, looks like we get the rain tomorrow [08:03] it's doing a threatening sort of swirl - http://www.raintoday.co.uk/ [08:04] Its getting chilly here :ร  [08:05] looking forward to some winter, hold off on the snow Since I need to drive [08:05] First time ages I've had to deice the cars this morning [08:06] i need to visit an electrical supplier and then ride on to a clients to get a phone socket working, blech :) [08:08] hmm though i normally loathe forever speaking of the wars, there are some interesting snaps in this one - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-34544925 [08:11] God .. the media will be bowie-dized for days [08:12] a better fate than the star wars hype :P [08:14] Haven't had time to go see the move yet [08:15] Still suffering from my "JJ-abrams reboot psychosis" [08:15] Looking at what he did to the star trek franchise , i look fearfully upon the white screen [08:16] After the recent deaths from the music world, Lemmy, Bowie, Bradbury, Weiland, Taylor etc, there's be one hell of a supergroup in the heavens now [08:21] Labyrith : David Bowie at his very very best [08:26] morning all [08:27] Morning MooDoo [08:27] knightwise: my friends say it wasn't so much him in that film, but his crotch [08:27] "May the direction of bowies fallus point you towards the end of the labyrinth" [09:04] yo [09:04] allo [09:05] cor, proper hail storm just now [09:08] ello [09:13] hey MooDoo [09:13] hows it going buddy [09:20] knightwise: feel a bit low this morning, don't think I got enough sleep this morning :) [09:20] sleep last night even! [09:20] snot [09:20] bleugh [09:21] gm foobarry \o [09:22] o/ [09:22] * daftykins nips off on postie watch [09:28] dogs are good for that [09:33] wow. just discovered a bug in lsdvd that causes all memory on the machine to be instantyly consumed [09:35] Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Learn Your Name In Morse Code Day! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ [09:36] morning JamesTait [09:36] .--. .- ..- .-.. / -- . .-.. .-.. --- .-. ... [09:40] .-- . .-.. .-.. / - .... .. ... / .. ... / ..-. ..- -. [09:40] Very good, MooDoo! โ˜บ [09:42] Laney, -.-- . ... / .. - / .. ... ! [10:12] morning boys and girls. === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack [10:14] hey brobostigon [10:14] how are you doing [10:15] howdy brobostigon [10:15] hi knightwise, not bad, my eczema could be better, and you? [10:15] hi MooDoo [10:17] JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoi2vx3iegw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgG-tXyq6E [10:19] JamesTait: the morse I hear as I take hold of software is ... --- ... and it just repeats all the time [10:20] JamesTait: I take it that must be my name in morse right? [11:35] Morning all, we've been having issues with time on our servers so I'm going through setting up ntpd on our customer sites, question though as my google foo is sucking [11:36] Our documents are timed, I can't see how often ntpd daemon keeps up to date, just a little worried about the sync being out by minutes and then sorting itself and a credit goes through say before an invoice is created. [11:41] Good morning peeps :) [11:41] hey bigcalm \o [11:47] another dead disk identified, oy. [11:47] remove it and hammer it in front of all the other disks as a warning... :-) [11:48] daftykins: is it named Bowie they all seem to die on the days stars do [11:49] too soon! [11:51] deffo too soon [11:53] he may be gone but the music he left... [11:54] daftykins: nothing person by it, was more meaning that I'm pretty sure you disks seem to die around the same time as a Star (mind you we lost a lot in the last 12 months) [11:54] it's ok, it's just a user in #ubuntu ;) [11:54] one that it took many, many tries to run a couple of commands :/ [11:55] zmoylan-pi: Indeed and it is wonderful Music too :) [12:00] diplo: did you run it by the #ubuntu-server folks? sorry no experience with ntpd [12:20] I think I've worked it out daftykins [12:20] \o/ [12:20] Uses min/maxpoll, over a few days it works out how often it needs to update, between 63 seconds and 1024 seconds depending on the machine [12:20] You can hard code it but advice is not to [12:21] i had heard installing it will only slowly begin to adjust toward the intended time, in increments [12:21] Ah, I've fixed each site to be correct before setting it up [12:21] sounds good :) [12:22] Only hoping it keeps it on time, will inspect each site that I've already done and see how they are fairing before doing more :) [13:57] davmor2: the second of those songs was well timed considering the news of David Bowie's passing :-( [13:57] http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35278872 [13:58] * diddledan listens to life on mars [13:58] * zmoylan-pi wonders how high his music goes in the charts in next few weeks [14:09] there is a new album out isn't there so possibly number 1 [14:09] yeah [14:10] I would imagine if they re-release ashes to ashes, space oddity and red shoes they would get 123 in the single charts [14:27] Just installed FireSSH in Firefox. [14:27] pleasantly surprised [14:34] looks like putty ,feels like putty [14:34] isnt putty [14:34] does it do URL parsing so you can click links? [14:34] i guess it *is* in a browser XD [14:34] I get putty and lube confused. [14:34] all my windows keep falling out [14:35] badum *CRASH* [14:36] amusing story last night that skylake CPUs have a bug which gets tripped by prime95, the intensive prime number program - causing a full freeze [14:36] BIOS updates will be on the way :) [14:37] daftykins: it should [14:37] but it doenst refresh the screen well [14:37] Hence: Switched to SecureShell in chrome [14:38] yeesh, is it a bug in the cpu itself? [14:38] that will be a pain to fix properly [14:38] that's what microcode updates are for :) [14:39] there wasn't much detail in theregister's article [14:54] question: why is ssh in a browser window preferable to an actual terminal window? [14:55] You remind me of the babe [14:55] what babe? [14:56] this bae [14:56] :p [14:56] ruined it [14:56] davmor2: try again [14:56] * SuperMatt throws his hands up in the air in exasperation [14:56] * diddledan tuts [14:57] you remind me of the babe. what babe? the babe with the power. what power? the power of voodoo. Who do? You do. Do what? Remind me of the babe [14:57] there, we've got it all [14:57] https://youtu.be/K7cFXSDN_5k [14:57] and I don't know why I started adding caps in the middle [14:58] You remind me of the Babe [14:58] What babe? [14:58] babae with the power [14:58] -a [14:58] What Power [14:58] power of voodoo [14:58] Who do? [14:58] you do [14:59] Do what? [14:59] remind me of the babe [14:59] \o/ [14:59] \o/ thanks SuperMatt [14:59] you're welcome [14:59] gotta love collaborative singing [15:00] * SuperMatt nods [15:00] * SuperMatt is dying for a little nap [15:00] mmm, snoozing ftw [15:01] I just wanna be back at the flat with the cat [15:01] kittie! [15:01] I want a kittie [15:01] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0 [15:03] diddledan: we adopted a 14 year old with dietry issues, and he's just such a lovely chap [15:03] awww [15:03] * diddledan cuddles [15:03] https://goo.gl/photos/XAjrWrRKFsfWp4cYA [15:03] soo cute with his lil teddy bear! [15:04] https://goo.gl/photos/pjGvNHhF4iEasDW17 - here he is playing "The floor is lava" which I try to fix some ikea drawers for more stability [15:05] *while [15:05] I read a while back that geeky/engineering types prefer cats over dogs [15:06] I prefer dogs because they're more intelligent in my eyes, but the cat is low maintenance, and it's what the girl wanted [15:06] based on my sample of me, I can state that the belief is 100% accurate [15:06] very good science, well done [15:07] I do like dogs, too, though, just prefer the company of a kittie :-) [15:11] Trying to convince wife we should get a dogy [15:11] but she's not having any of it [15:12] popey: convince the kids then the wife has to capitulate under the weight of democracy :-p [15:12] popey: why not? hair and dust? [15:12] poo [15:12] pft. [15:12] poopey :-p [15:13] I'd want a Finnish lapphund but I think it'll have to wait a bit longer [15:16] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdcTHQ6OQHk [15:18] popey: if the missus can change a nappy, she can pick up after a dog! [15:18] In fact, it's often less messy [15:18] yeah, we're both capable of doing it [15:19] changing a nappy is a matter of necessity [15:19] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dyson-Cinetic-DC54-i-Brand-New-5-year-Dyson-guarantee-/111821945687 โ™ฅ [15:20] or rather, I love this even more than the vacuum itself http://www.dyson.co.uk/vacuum-cleaners/accessories/pet-hair/tangle-free-turbine-tool.aspx [15:29] "pet hair" [15:30] my wifes hair is what tangles it [15:30] dog hair is tiny [15:31] do most mortgage providers allow overpayment or not? [15:31] hard to generalise, need to check per mortgage i expect [15:31] foobarry: yes, and my yarn. [15:31] and dental floss [15:31] yarn and human hair were our reasons to get it [15:31] if it doesn't go in the bin completely, it wanders out [15:32] my wife has been dying her yarns lately too [15:32] she has borrowed a drum carder [15:32] so is getting fleeces, washing, drumming , dyeing, spinning [15:36] ujjain, yes AIUI [15:36] right, I might have a look on buying a first house. [15:37] remember popey INAL [15:37] Sanity check: Ubuntu 15.10 users, when you change volume with multimedia keyboard keys, does anything appear on the screen? [15:38] yes [15:38] ujjain: basically it all depends on what your provider allows. Some will allow you to over pay, but won't let you miss a payment even if you've over paid 11 out of 12 months, others just won't let you over pay at all [15:38] right, I did break something then. ty diddledan [15:38] right, I'll write this on my checklist, find a provider that'll allow it. [15:38] and you definitely cannot under pay on a mortgage [15:38] eh, hehe, right. [15:38] ujjain: if it's your first buy, you'll find the number of providers is veeeeeeeeeeery slim [15:38] moreati: specifically a progress-bar-like indicator on the top-right of the screen telling you the current volume level [15:39] I have a good salary though and I don't need an expensive house. [15:41] ujjain: that's what I thought, though I am in london meaning I have to jump through more hoops that most [15:43] moreati: https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4zzz02q1r5bnpr/Screenshot%20from%202016-01-11%2015-41-23.png?dl=0 [15:43] all houses are expensive in london [15:43] one of my mortgages wouldn't let me overpay within first 3 years [15:45] tell me about it [15:45] my two bed flat is twice the price of my borther's two up two down [15:45] *brother [15:46] but he now has a child to worry about, and I'm sitting pretty with my kitty [15:52] I'm in London too [15:53] I don't really necessarily want to overpay right now, but if interest rises to e.g. 6% [15:53] I'd like the option to overpay [15:55] 2% or 6% on 500k, first affordable, second one deadly [15:59] holy cow, this year I'll have lived in this house 15 years! [16:00] bovine deity! [16:02] congrats! :) [16:02] is that also the length of your marriage? [16:02] so far [16:09] * zmoylan-pi wonders if popey's residence is ipv4 or ipv6 :-) [16:10] no, 16 years [16:10] married in 2000 so I could easily remember how many years I've been wed [16:11] popey: is it the way I have configured my phone, or does the PlusOne X have a pants battery life? [16:11] '97 met, '98 rented together, '99 engaged, '00 house, '01-02 nuffink, '03 first child :) [16:11] bigcalm, define pants? [16:11] i dunno mine is often plugged in [16:11] and i never leave the house [16:11] popey: 100% charge this morning. 25% charge now [16:12] i often turn on android power saving [16:12] I did drive to work today, so was without wifi for about an hour [16:12] i have bluetooth on all the time mostly, for pebble [16:12] Do you have the gestures enabled? [16:12] yes [16:12] circle and v? [16:12] I have bt on for my wrist band thing [16:12] popey: yes o and v [16:12] Maybe it's because I've only just got the phone and thus playing with it more [16:13] battery thing says 88% approx 21 hrs left [16:13] i turned off some animations and stuff [16:13] you can't rent out your own home if you have a mortgage, right? [16:13] http://imgur.com/nZIZtL5 [16:14] depends on the mortgage [16:14] for me '14, didn't know eachother '15 met, '15 she got kicked out of the country, [16:14] erk [16:16] http://imgur.com/IwfzkAe [16:17] Seems it wasn't 100% this morning but last night. Even so [16:17] lots of screen on time [16:17] so yeah, you're probably playing with it more than me [16:18] Aye [16:18] like the device tho? [16:18] It'll improve over time [16:18] Very much so [16:18] I used to have a Nexus 5, battery was horrid, I played too much with it I guess [16:18] i hate that i keep pressing the power button when i pick it up [16:18] @popey; too many notifications [16:19] they don't bother you? [16:19] well done [16:19] popey: slightly regretting buying the Karbon shell with my order. Didn't realise that it came with a clear jelly shell that is nicer to use. [16:19] I wondered who would be the first to mention the notifications [16:19] why would they bother me, it's on my desk, with the display off [16:19] popey: I haven't done that. But I do keep pressing volume down when I want to press power [16:19] phones should have power buttons on the top, not the side [16:19] [FACT] [16:19] iphone 4 was the pinnacle of phone design imo :) [16:20] nokia e61i to my mind [16:20] was that symbian? [16:20] yup [16:21] was all downhill after the e61i [16:23] I loved my N95 [16:24] the n95, another classic. met a hotel porter who used the n95 to torrent movies in his pocket while he was at work [16:25] I used it for IRC, and for taking the best photos I've ever taken, and listening to audiobooks [16:25] no way he won't be found out [16:25] 11 days into the year and still no tube strike, itโ€™s a miraccccccleee ๐Ÿ˜„ [16:25] * ujjain opens newspaper [16:26] Tuesday 26 January - Tube Strike [16:26] * SuperMatt nods sagely [16:26] I don't know whether to try to work from home, or take annual leave [16:26] it willen have been a tube strike if it happens... :-) [16:27] work from home, that's what Mitchell and Webb'd do. [16:28] yeah, but what about the wa... [16:32] popey: am I mad or is there no gallery app on the phone? (ignoring Google photos) [16:32] yes [16:32] thats the default photos app now, innit? [16:32] Is it? Didn't realise that [16:33] i thought so [16:33] After taking a photo, one can scroll though past photos. Thought that was using a gallery app [16:33] that used to be the case [16:33] but Google merged them into one app i thought [16:34] if you search play store for gallery then you'll find google photos [16:34] thats the app i use [16:34] i thought it was pre-installed? [16:35] It is pre-installed [16:35] On my SGS5 with CM12.1 (and now 13.0), there was a separate app for Gallery that wasn't Google photos [16:36] Hence my surprise [16:36] I'll live :) [16:38] Yeah, I prefered Gallery too [16:41] The camera is nice https://twitter.com/bigcalm/status/686588390352007170 [16:43] bigcalm: you've got a nice pair [16:43] it's merged yeah [16:43] diddledan: they were a lovely juicy pair [16:43] bigcalm: which SW did you end up seeing? [16:44] Myrtti: imax 3d. It was okay [16:44] bigcalm: the 3D part or the SW part? [16:44] I really need to go watch that [16:44] Myrtti: the drugs I'm on make my emotions quite muted. That said, I enjoyed the film, so that's saying something [16:44] the 3D was a lacklustre for me [16:45] bigcalm: I'm not on any drugs and it was a relatively muted affair for me, too. I cried far less than what I expected [16:45] I think that 3d shouldn't be the point of the film. An addition to it that you don't really notice but adds depth. Avatar did it well. I haven't seen it used correctly since then sadly [16:45] moreati: 2D would have been just as good [16:46] we watched Finding Nemo in 3D at home with the new telly and it was amazing [16:47] Myrtti: ditto, but saw Dredd [16:48] the dredd movie was amazing, i would have loved to have seen that in cinema in 3d [16:53] Watched Empire Strikes Back (DVD) last night and saw that it was better than anything else, ever [16:54] bigcalm: he said let there be starwars. and there was starwars. and he looked upon it and saw that it was good. [16:54] day 8 of the creation story [16:55] hmmm, my movie last night was ronin... and it was explody... :-) [16:55] Will likely watch Return of the Jedi at some point this week, though I know it will never live up to Empire [16:55] wow, I've not seen that in forever [16:55] great car chases, great shoot outs, great dialog... [16:56] what colour is the boat house in hereford?! [16:56] tonights movie... i went down... [17:05] Dredd in 3D was pretty cool [17:05] Especially the slowmo scenes [17:06] bigcalm, yeah, I like the camera, but my previous phone camera I used was Nexus 4, so not hard to be better than that garbage [17:06] unlike most movies which are just made 3d it looked like someone thought ahead with dredd and made bits of it to look spectacular in 3d [17:22] just hit bug #1529146 [17:22] bug 1529146 in linux (Ubuntu Wily) "btrfs balance leads to kernel panic" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1529146 [17:23] did a bit of research and posted a link to an LKML message about the issue onto the bug [17:24] also added the redhat issue for the same into launchpad's tracking [17:28] o_O "Bug watch updates for Red Hat Bugzilla are disabled." whyfor? [17:28] silly launchpad [20:00] yey for calendar reminders - I'd forgotten it was silent witness tonight === MooDoo is now known as Guest19686 === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === MooDoo is now known as Guest56886 [20:34] diddledan, good work finding the patch [20:38] thanks :-) [21:22] hi:D === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack